I think they may be referring to ‘vision’ as in ‘forward-thinking or visionary’
as BYD is the very epitome of this compared to most car-makers. Again, just a
guess!
Regards, Martin Winlow
Isle of Colonsay
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>> extremely minor one. BEVs do not shed mass as they are driven, while
>> FCEVs do. So, FCEVs should see a very slight rise in efficiency as they
>> expend their fuel while BEVs do not. I am NOT claiming that it
ties in dealing with the aftermath of
collisions (both immediate and subsequent eg emergency services, court time,
pathologists etc, etc) not to mention the huge and often completely overlooked
costs of post-collision traffic congestion… the list goes on.
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> It's not the government’s responsibility to provide chargers anymore than
> gas stations?
Well, it is (IMO) if they ban us from using the only other practical
alternative! I think any reasonable person agrees that we need to move away
from fossil-fuels but there is little point in
They should *obviously* have bought a Tesla, then!
The UK government are living in la-la land if they seriously plan to ban the
sale of fossil-fuelled vehicles in the UK in 9 years time *if* they do not
*seriously* deal with this very real situation, and very quickly.
Instavolt have only 7
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/104561/electric-cars-get-green-number-plates
That’s handy. We can use a bit of green tape to hide the once mandatory but
now now redundant ‘EU’ symbol to the left of every number plate in the country…!
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cant to use
is silicon spray as it does not adversely affect the (usually silicon
rubber-based) seal in the socket.
Incidentally, spare parts for Duosida/Dostar plugs and sockets can be found at
www.evbitz.uk <http://www.evbitz.uk/> (based in Scotland).
Regards, Martin Winlow.
On 4/15/2
Sorry, but I am at a loss to understand why we are even discussing this. Who
knows what *really* happened. Why didn't the driver just show the police his
ID? He has complained about the incident and I gather he has been charged and
will attend court in due course and give his side of the
This development (no doubt pushed through by Boris Jonson, Mayor of London)
will do more to raise the profile and potential of a migration form ICEV to EV
in London and the UK generally than the efforts of all the media advertising
you could possibly pay for. Ordinary members of the community
Just put a stinking comment on the article, actually. He may be right on the
autonomous vehicle issue but when he comes out with nonsense like 'the i8 is
challenging the MS as the eco car of choice' you have to take anything else he
says with a truck load of salt, let alone a pinch! MW
On 6
Quite a lot of use of these on VisforVoltage forum - mostly in Vectrixs
(electric scooter). MW
On 24 Mar 2015, at 17:10, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I am now the new owner of a totaled Nissan leaf purchased at a salvage yard.
I'd like to hear any first hand accounts or
Ooooh... Welcome to the club! MW
On 24 Mar 2015, at 01:56, Mike Nickerson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I finally jumped in with both feet and bought a used demonstration Tesla
Model S. It is a 2014 model that was built just before the dual motor and
self driving features. It was
Would this work outside of the US? MW
On 21 Mar 2015, at 19:57, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
We all know about the apps you use to find charging stations and this is not
one.
I've just written an iPhone app to help EV owners communicate with other EV
owners at a charging site. With
Perhaps they should try doing their round in reverse! MW
On 22 Mar 2015, at 16:31, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Glen Hoag via EV wrote:
AFAIK, all rural carriers use their own vehicles these days. Around here,
some are still using ex-USPS Jeep DJ-5s, though most have been
Do you have an iphone or something else i can do a live video link on ... If
you fancy it?!
MW
On 22 Mar 2015, at 16:57, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
My mail carrier used to use her personal vehicle (a smoke puking thing I
might add). But USPS added on package deliver in
Oops! Wrongly addressed! MW
On 22 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Martin Winlow via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Do you have an iphone or something else i can do a live video link on ... If
you fancy it?!
MW
On 22 Mar 2015, at 16:57, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
My mail carrier
like the posties who use their own vehicle (if they still
do) could lead the pack but maybe the miles they do just doesn't work for
currently available EVs?
Regards, Martin Winlow
Herts, UK
http://www.evalbum.com/2092
www.winlow.co.uk
On 21 Mar 2015, at 19:11, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
If I could have left a comment on the article making that exact point I would
have... along with the fact that if this guy is that stupid (let alone stupid
enough to allow such a ignorant comment to go onto the 'world wide web' for all
to see) he a/ isn't fit to hold his current position and b/
None of that works with a $70K+ auto Well, all the MS owners who have
already 'up-graded' to a D may disagree!
On 13 Mar 2015, at 01:32, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Aside from the grousing problem any manufacturer has offering newer
models...
Part of the trouble for Tesla
And don't forget that even if the EV body is a write off there is pretty good
chance the electric drive train (battery pack, inverter, DC/DC converter,
gearbox/adaptor/motor and instrumentation) ie all the expensive bits - will
probably be salvageable. Ask me how I know! So liability, fire
Nope, I agree with Bob. Not only do you have the expense of an unnecessarily
large pack but you are carting around its enormous weight as well. The effect
on the average day-to-day efficiency of the EV would be huge especially for a
vehicle used mostly around town in stop-go traffic. Most
Joe,
Everything you said is exactly mirrored by my own experience with my i-MiEV
here in the UK. It is a very versatile, comfortable, nippy and wonderfully
smooth to drive car whose external appearance very much belies its interior
roominess - in the front and rear seats.
It is a complete
It might not happen any time soon in the US but it is already happening in
Europe. MW
On 28 Feb 2015, at 02:44, Alan Arrison via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The constant stream of news releases regarding self driving cars is pretty
annoying.
I'm sorry, I don't see it happening any time
Put a mains electric blanket under them (ideally separated by a thin sheet of
ply or aluminium) and put it on a timer. Cheap easy. If you can work some
insulation into the mix, so much the better - the foil bubble wrap stuff is
very space efficient. MW
On 20 Feb 2015, at 20:25, Danpatgal
http://www.ev-power.eu - very efficient and 'probably' best EU prices
http://hybridautocenter.com (US but they have supplied quite a few buyers in
the UK to my knowledge and without issue)
http://newelectric.nl - excellent comms and support (the EU side of J Rickard's
EVTV)
MW
On 14 Feb
Yes... Reading the piece, I was beginning to think that the Chinese (not
exactly world-renowned for their sense of humour) have an equivalent of the
West's April Fool, but not, it appears. MW
On 4 Feb 2015, at 03:52, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
They are only an order of
If you own an iPhone (or probably other smart phones too) you can get a 'caddy'
that turns your phone into a TI camera. Might be a cheaper/more convenient way
of doing this as the dedicated cameras are, as you say, quite exy! Have a look
on eBay etc. MW
On 24 Jan 2015, at 16:12, Robert
Turn them into insulating building blocks - that's what they do in Europe
http://www.heidelbergcement.com/uk/en/hanson/products/blocks/sustainability/thermalite_sustainability.htm
... but I seee the same thing happens in the US...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_ash
MW
On 22 Dec 2014,
)!
Regards and season's greetings,
Martin Winlow
EVBitz.uk
On 22 Dec 2014, at 06:30, Bill Dube via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
It is a 2012 SL model, so yes, it does have the L3 Chademo fast charge
port.
Know of any nifty hacks for connecting my existing PFC-50 up to the L3
charging port
. In the latter case an
equally simple Type 2 to Type 1 cable would be equally fine and still cost
about $AU 200 (eg www.EVBitz.uk!).
Regards, Martin Winlow.
On 15 Dec 2014, at 11:34, John Lindsay via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
The Australian delivered Teslas have the UK style, 3 phase, Mennekes
Peri - Your argument gets my vote. MW
On 23 Nov 2014, at 06:12, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I think you're right, Ben, but I don't think that plug-in hybrids should be
part of the charter. If someone wants to ask questions or discuss how to
add EV capabilities to an
Yes, it's amazing what the appearance of a foxy chic does to improve one's
outlook! MW
On 4 Nov 2014, at 02:41, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about the C1. Now it's performing and
evolving. My confidence in the vehicle just went up
The problem I have with relying on simple pack voltage measurement to control
the charger is that eventually, as the pack ages, one or more cells are going
to go out of balance, become the 'weakest link' and cause the capacity of the
pack as a whole to unnecessarily reduce. From a safety
Well, I'm not a scammer - just interested. So, where *do* you get them? MW
On 11 Oct 2014, at 21:01, Cruisin via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Currently have in stock both NEW Leaf and VOLT modules as well as BMS wire
harness for the Volt, and Mini BMS for both Leaf and Volt modules. Volt
http://www.israellycool.com/2014/08/27/destroying-turkish-made-electric-cars/
Does anyone know if these vehicles still have their battery packs? If so, what
are the chances of the packs still being viable and coming onto the market for
're-purposing' (a la the EVTV ones)?
MW
Nice! MW
Begin forwarded message:
From: allan bullock crui...@live.com
Subject: RE: [EVDL] Need Lithium batteries.
Date: 12 October 2014 13:33:56 BST
To: 'Martin WINLOW' m...@winlow.co.uk
You are a scammer. Its not polite to ask a vender for his source. Maybe in
the UK you think its
Hi,
My motorcycle has 40AH GBS cells of which I use only 2 1/2 C and the cells are
still doing great 3 1/2 years later.
To give us some terms of reference, what does your M/C pull in amps at a steady
50mph and 70mph (if you go that fast!) and on strong acceleration? And how
many miles
RN =...
• Niger (international vehicle registration).[from French République du Niger .]
• (chiefly in North America) Registered Nurse.
• (in the UK) Royal Navy.
?
On 22 Sep 2014, at 11:41, Matthew Parkhouse via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Hello All
Has anyone had any experience with
resp).
Rather off topic! MW
On 21 Sep 2014, at 00:21, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
On 20 Sep 2014 at 11:21, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
133kW LiFePO4 pack ... I'm a bit confused as to why it only gets 70
miles or so range if it does 0.67 miles per kWh...
Let's see
Wow! 133kW LiFePO4 pack and 150kW motor. No word on top speed (unless I
missed it) but a usable range of 70 miles or so. Quite impressive and ideal
for tootling around congested York - or any other city for that matter. The
converting company, Magtec, have some other interesting products on
. I'm hoping that change will accelerate if
Tesla and others can produce a 200+ mile range SUV or light truck at a cost
(including long term fuel costs) comparable to ICE versions.
Peri
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To: brucedp5 bruce
(Um, Bruce, I don't want to appear rude, here, but singling out one section of
the population on a racial basis for criticism - certainly in this context - is
at best rather non-PC and at worst, a bit, well, ... offensive...? I'm trying
to be delicate, here! I think I know you well enough to
Now the dust has settled somewhat, does anyone has the insider knowledge of why
Tesla abandoned the 40kWh pack and why, more interestingly, it didn't come with
a supercharger option?
I still think it would have a market, particularly in Asia and Europe where
shorter average journeys are the
I can understand all the issues people have raised on this thread. The simple
fact is that hardly any of the Renault range is selling. As a long term EVer,
I would not be swayed by the battery lease idea unless it was very cheap -
$10/month or so. I have sufficient faith in the battery tech
Gosh, that's interesting! The VW e-up! is out-selling the BMW i3! MW
On 29 Aug 2014, at 00:41, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Since when has the MiEV sold more units than the Leaf?
Never according to:
http://evobsession.com/world-electrified-vehicle-sales-2013/
#1 is
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
On 08/29/2014 03:36 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote:
Now the dust has settled somewhat, does anyone has the insider knowledge of
why Tesla abandoned the 40kWh pack and why, more interestingly, it didn't
come with a supercharger option?
I still think it would have
As I have said before, give it another 100 years or so and we'll be digging up
all those landfill sites to recover the plastic! MW
On 22 Aug 2014, at 01:09, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
8 years or UNLIMITED miles as of last week - retroactive and transferrable,
too! MW
On 20 Aug 2014, at 02:50, Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
Peri, Watch the video, You Tube title is: eSamba EP 29 TESLA style
fuses The many parallel packs in series depend upon each pack not having
multiple
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:08 AM
To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
Depends on your
What, as a matter of interest, is an acceptable amount of resistance in a
battery or cell terminal connection? MW
On 17 Aug 2014, at 00:48, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
On 16 Aug 2014 at 14:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
The technique has been described many times on the EVDL. It must be
as heat.
Cor van de Water
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -
What, as a matter of interest, is an acceptable amount of resistance in
a battery or cell terminal connection
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/2013/aug/We-are-developing-a-prototype-battery-powered-train/
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I think REAP's results speak for themselves. Brushing is quite a bit easier
than sanding but just watch you dont short a pair of terminals if you are using
a long steel-wired brush!
But as Michael suggests, in a damp environment, such as a marine application
for example, the Noalox might
This won't hurt EU EV uptake...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11007326/Diesel-car-drivers-betrayed-as-EU-cracks-down-on-Britain-over-air-pollution.html
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Dear Martin WINLOW,
The CCTV that you have requested relating to the TDRT number has been
successfully downloaded.
Please collect the CCTV from London General at MARSH LANE, NORTHUMBERLAND
PARK, TOTTENHAM, LONDON, N17 0XB
Have you any evidence to suggest there is a problem with rear impact
performance? MW
On 26 Jul 2014, at 03:51, Al via EV wrote:
Notice there is no *rear* crash test.
Al
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To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Friday, July 25,
It is in Europe! MW
On 24 Jul 2014, at 04:01, Al via EV wrote:
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To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:17 AM
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Renault 16ton Electric Delivery Lorry/Truck
Since when is Renault
Calling Nikola Tesla! Calling Nikola Tesla! Come back! All is forgiven!
I bet *he'd* have something to say on this subject! MW
On 21 Jul 2014, at 20:24, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
From: Peri Hartman
Is it possible to use multiple coils to focus the beam?
Magnetic fields are devilishly
It does tickle me seeing such a luminary engineering setup like Bosch making
such a silly mistake after Tesla has 'been there, done that'. It may turn out
well for them but it seems a bit arrogant when you consider how much a success
Tesla has had after just 1/10 of the time all the big
recognizer, the transmitter could
focus the beam exactly to the receiver area. I'm hoping this would reduce
risk of exposure when humans, animals are in the vicinity and also improve
efficiency.
Peri
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From: Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
To: Martin WINLOW m
It's not just convenience. There is the issue of theft/vandalism of/to
charging cords and the (small) danger to passers by posed by them ie the trip
hazard. They'll also wear out in time. The inductive system removes all these
problems. MW
On 21 Jul 2014, at 05:08, Peri Hartman via EV
Peter,
Looks like you last post didn't work...
I'd be interested to know the answer to Lee's question, though in practical
terms I can see the appeal of the road-based solution. As far as that goes, is
there talk of being able to lower the car coil or is it assumed it will be
fixed? If
, properly
aligned and communicating receiver.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Hmmm, my instant reaction was 'extremely unlikely' as you would need a
'receiver' circuit with the right resonant frequency to generate any sort
of significant
Hmmm, my instant reaction was 'extremely unlikely' as you would need a
'receiver' circuit with the right resonant frequency to generate any sort of
significant energy. That said, it is, I suppose, quite feasible that with the
mass of coils of one sort or another that there are 'out there' that
Works fine on my iphone 5s (Safari) - even the animations. Interesting write up
nice pictures, too. MW
MW
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:31, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Hi gang,
I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make it
more useful. I just added
Sounds something like this company I've been following for a while...
http://www.sapphireenergy.com
... based in the US. Their process uses algae to make 'crude oil' which can
then be refined in the normal way to make diesel, petrol etc. They have just
announced a tie-up with the big Chinese
Larry - You are right. Amp-hours on its own doesn't really mean much at all.
Except, of course, that most modern EVs have battery/traction packs in the
~300V bracket and most batteries used in such vehicles have cell voltages in
~3-4V range so, depending on the context, an Ah rating gives the
Well, reading his Wiki entry, he is clearly not stupid. I can only assume he
fervently believes that transitioning an ICE-based business to electric will
ruin the company he has worked so hard to turn around over the last 5 years or
so. As well as having a law degree e is also an accountant
Vehicle mods in Europe are generally very much frowned upon. Trying to convert
an ICE to an EV, for example, is nigh-on impossible if intended for the public
road. In the UK, however, things are a lot more relaxed. My local vehicle
inspection office hardly raised an eyebrow when I took my
$5/W sounds hideously expensive. It's nearer $2.6/W installed here in the UK!
But as far as your analysis goes, you haven't factored in the money that
hundreds of companies that supply the armed services have made out of the war.
That means jobs which keeps the politicians in power and
as both very limited and the same...
Bob
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EV
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 5:25 AM
To: Mark Abramowitz; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts
Mark
Mark,
Please stop wittering on and actually address some of the points the anti H2
FCV commentators have made here.
Principally, please explain how you believe H2 FCVs will work in terms of
efficiency Vs (real ie plug-in) EVs?
MW
On 26 Jun 2014, at 01:52, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
Surely there is a more efficient way of storing excess electric power than
this?! Even pumping water up into reservoirs and then dropping again through
turbines (like the UK national grid does in wales
http://www.fhc.co.uk/ffestiniog.htm ) must be more efficient? Wont work very
well in the
Spot on, Robert. MW
On 12 Jun 2014, at 15:28, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
My 2 cents.
Anyone who buys an EV with the idea of routine public charging does not
understand the value promise of an EV. Why hassle with public charging
stations when the whole idea of abandoning gas was to
Elon being interviewed in London at his inimitable best...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27741041
It does look odd seeing a Model S bearing a UK registration plate. The first
of many, I hope!
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Sounds like a load of tosh by Ecotricity and certainly doesn't square with what
the government have said they plan to have in place by the end of 2014. MW
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via EV
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:51 AM
To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT
I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready
A Financial Times article a couple of weeks back was saying that $1T of recent
investment in shale oil and gas extraction will never se a profit - due to too
low oil and gas prices. Guess what's going to happen next? MW
On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Jan Steinman via EV wrote:
From: Michael
Sure, but what is crazy about this situation is that people *want* to buy the
blessed thing, the reviews are all very good and the engineering faultless
(apparently) and here is this chap Sergio Marchionne saying basically that he
can't be bothered to work out a way to make money selling the
From the video and web page, the surface *is* the solar cell - attached to a
solid concrete cellular base by 2 or more bolts. So repair would be very
simple and very quick - remove damaged, 'cells' bolt in new ones. The PV and
electronics might even be salvageable for re-use in a new cell.
Folks can rail against autonomous vehicles (AVs) all they want but come 2050
most vehicles on the road will be AVs. This doesn't mean that those of us who
enjoy going for a blast won't be able to but for everyone else who just wants
to get from A to B safely, efficiently (in both time and
' signs off
your car - even replace them with ICEV ones. Unfortunately, it isn't going to
stop people damaging your car whilst it is charging - and that has already
started, too.
Depresssingly yours, Martin Winlow.
On 21 May 2014, at 15:02, Geoff Pullinger via EV wrote:
Has there been some
On 21 May 2014, at 17:41, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
See below for a brief reply.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled.
1. Last I heard a practical
Roland,
I do hope you are not advocating the use of highly toxic and horribly dangerous
Potassium hydroxide be carried around in cars as an alternative to (equally as
dangerous and impractical) H2? Any collision would make a Tesla fire look like
cap gun going off in comparison. Thank God
See the same item on evtv's website shop - there is a useful setup document you
can download and they sell it with a suitable shunt. MW
On 14 May 2014, at 11:35, Michael K Johnson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
That AH meter at lightobject looks very interesting. It doesn't say
what shunt
What sort of RPM does a mower use? The corded electric Mountfield we use does
not appear to have a gearbox. So, would a 36/48V cordless circular saw be a
possible starting point (if there is such a beast!)? It'd certainly make
battery swapping very easy! MW
On 28 Apr 2014, at 17:58,
Hi Dennis,
So, I'm getting the tiniest feeling you don't think much of inductive charging
(IC)?
Whilst I agree that it's all vapourware at the moment you only have to look at
where other commonly recharged things are going to see that if EVs really do
take over from ICEVs, IC is an inevitable
The catch is that they are 'used' and have absolutely no warranty or support
whatsoever. That said, if I could get hold of 15 or so of the 48 modules that
make up these ex-Better Place packs for 15/48 x $4800 = $1500, I'd bite their
hand off! (I'm in the UK). MW
On 26 Apr 2014, at 03:42, Al
Hi Roland,
I do love your wonderfully practical take on things - when are you going to
write a book?
Anyway, from my rudimentary understanding of these things, 180V / 200A = 0.9
ohms of resistance in your welding rods. 200A x 200A x 0.9 ohms = 36kW of heat
from your resistor. That sounds
I use Circuit Wizard - UK£60 ...
http://www.new-wave-concepts.com/ed/circuit.html ... it also does circuit
simulation, PCB design etc. It is basic but still useful esp for drawing
circuits easily. There is a pro version which is about £UK80. Not sure what
the difference is. MW
On 20 Apr
What... just like Tesla does then? MW
On 18 Apr 2014, at 22:55, Electric Blue auto convertions wrote:
Nothing is free, nothing, you always have to pay, or you will be charged
later
. Look at Nissan, free charging?? you have the buy the but ugly car in the
first place , how much does that
Sounds good to me... I don't know of anywhere now that is completely off-grid.
However, when I was a boy we moved from very quaint and civilised Dorset to a
very un-civilised farm in Western Australia - no grid power or water (came off
the house roof) or mains sewerage and only one TV channel
One could stay connected to the grid, never adding power to the grid, but only
drawing power in the off chance that the home storage runs short?
...and/or do what Tesla is planning ie to sell the stored power to the utility
in the event of a brownout, of course. MW
On 17 Apr 2014, at 04:11,
I test drove a P85 here in England 10 days ago, just north of London. They are
going out and about the UK currently, offering test drives via an email sent to
those registered on the newsletter list. Nice chap took me out, knowledgable,
young and very keen. The car was LHD with (I think)
at 15:25, Martin WINLOW wrote:
Average mph for:-
Day 1 - 23.2 !!
Day 2 - 33.5
Day 3 - 34.2
Thanks Martin,
Your post reminded me of the long, detailed ampabout adventures posts that
Bruce used to write 15-20 years ago. Good memories.
Hmmm... not for everyone this EV malarkey, methinks
Hi Evan,
You are right... but the way I look at it, it's free and if you expect it to
all go horribly wrong, it is a nice when it only just goes a little horribly
wrong!
But, like I said; not for everyone. MW
On 14 Apr 2014, at 15:43, Evan Tuer wrote:
Ouch! That does look like hard work,
UK readers may be interested to know that there are 6 Peugeot Ions (i-Mievs)
all going for £7,000 at Howards, in Yeovil, Somerset. They are all from 2011
and range in mileage from 1200 to 8000... MW
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