John Lennon Don't ya know it's just a fool, who makes it cool, by
making his world a little colder.
Judy,
Tell me that that line doesn't move your soul. And I wont interact
with you as an emotional equal anymore.
Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your don't get that you are fighting the wrong battle here do you? OK
keep fighting if that makes you happy...boring...boring...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
---
Your don't get that you are fighting the wrong battle here do you? OK
keep fighting if that makes you happy...boring...boring...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey T3inity,
That was really an interesting post! Sounds like you are really deep
into Indian culture. I would love to visit again.
Thanks, yes I am, I really love it. Visit again, you will see much has
On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
John Lennon Don't ya know it's just a fool, who makes it cool, by
making his world a little colder.
Paul McCartney actually (song about Julian Lennon).
On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Vaj wrote:
On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
John Lennon Don't ya know it's just a fool, who makes it cool, by
making his world a little colder.
Paul McCartney actually (song about Julian Lennon).
It was *to* Julian Lennon, not about him IIRC.
On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
It was *to* Julian Lennon, not about him IIRC. I think Paul was
attempting to give him some advice that would hopefully make his
life a little easier or something. Most people would not write
lines like that *about* someone who was around
Yeah, I was wrong twice, I even blew the line itself! Plays it cool
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
John Lennon Don't ya know it's just a fool, who makes it cool, by
making his world a little
And the Maharishi apparently never did promise
anyone enlightenment in 5-7 years.
Rick Archer wrote:
It wasn't a promise but it was a standard part
of the 3-days checking notes.
Maybe in your checking notes, but it's not in any
of my checking notes. It's not listed on the checking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Huh? Rory couldn't have been nicer. He was expressing
genuine appreciation for Judy. He was downright
obsequious.
If so, Rory insulted Curtis, Vaj, Barry, Off-World
and the Geezer Freak, who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Lennon Don't ya know it's just a fool, who makes it cool, by
making his world a little colder.
Sure seems to have heated you up, don't it?
Judy,
Tell me that that line doesn't move your soul. And I wont
I know you are trying to say something mean Judy, but you are just
coming off weird here. Your reaction to my original post was odd. I
don't doubt it all makes sense in your world, but you are not
communicating anything other than a generally unpleasant condescending
tone. Intimating that I
Rick Archer wrote:
Huh? Rory couldn't have been nicer. He was expressing
genuine appreciation for Judy. He was downright
obsequious.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If so, Rory insulted Curtis, Vaj, Barry, Off-World
and the
My hands are all dry now.
You're on your own, buster.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know you are trying to say something mean Judy, but you are just
coming off weird here. Your reaction to my original post was odd.
I
don't doubt it all
Huh? Rory couldn't have been nicer. He was expressing
genuine appreciation for Judy. He was downright
obsequious.
Richard J. Williams wrote:
If so, Rory insulted Curtis, Vaj, Barry, Off-World
and the Geezer Freak, who apparently can't stand Judy, or
any other TMer for that
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:31 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion with Judy about Guru Dev and
5-8 years was the predicted time to reach CC. All
new.morning wrote:
I am not sure if promise is the word, but
in Nov 1967 in Berkeley MMY talked specifically
about how TM would result in CC in 5 years for
students -- and even had a pamphlet to go along
with it which had the 5 years in writing.
Maybe so, but I helped Jerry Jarvis set up
jstein wrote:
Anyway, turns out Rory was on TMNews, and his
sign-off was LLL.
That makes sense, I guess. A guy who writes his
own Spiritual Autobiography and publishes it
on the Internet, who goes to a TM news forum
to argue his case, who doesn't sign his name
as Rory Goff, but uses a sig
On Apr 4, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Finally, he declared himself infallible; he
actually said, I never make mistakes, which
immediately reminded me of many errors he had
made: first claiming that all meditators would
reach Cosmic Consciousness in a few months,
later
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and writing. Apart from when
things get too convoluted (e.g. in the Barry-Judy wars), I enjoy
almost all of her posts.
Make that four. I love Judy Stein!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and writing. Apart from when
things get
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:43 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion with Judy about Guru Dev and
So, no Rory Goff on AMT in 2002 dialoging with Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 geoff@ wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I
absolutely second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true
believer, but I'm a great fan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
new.morning wrote:
I am not sure if promise is the word, but
in Nov 1967 in Berkeley MMY talked specifically
about how TM would result in CC in 5 years for
students -- and even had a pamphlet to go along
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic threshold.
Out of curiousity and for fun, if you care to share, per Alex's post,
do you have a strong Mars? In what house? (in jyotish or western).
I have a strong
A commanding appearance. Argumentative ability. You become a Mars is
under star 3-Krttika,
renowned lawyer or military or police officer or associates with the
and Mars is in star quarter #
government. You will run after other's spouses. It has been noticed 1 .
that some kind of poisonous
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic
threshold.
Add me too. I like Judy's clarity and strong intellect. I don't
understand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic
threshold.
Out of curiousity and for fun, if you care to share, per Alex's
post, do
--- Jerry initiated me into TM on July 10-th, 1967. He was bald but
combed the remaining hair from the sides over on top of his head,
giving the appearance of some hair.
And yes, the literature made a cc claim of 5 or 7 years. I forgot
which.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you read my stuff
and send it back with hard topspin makes you a big part of what I dig
here. I think there has been a cool change in the way people are
posting and I am
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you read my
stuff and send it back with hard topspin makes you a big part of
what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press
e benefit for me. Thanks.
Curtis, do you ever look in a mirror?
Yes I do. What an inappropriate response. WTF?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
On Mar 31, 2007, at 11:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
It is your underlying arrogant assumption that you know me better
than I know myself that makes you such a bore. It leaks into every
discussion. No one has blown holes in anything. We are all
offering
our own point of view. Your
Rory Goff wrote:
Judy, you chopped my angry arguments/stories
up so nicely on amt back in 2002 that they
really died then and there...
You must be dreaming, Rory - there's no Judy/Rory
dialog on AMT from 2002. What's up with that?
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=hl=en;
There is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Interesting! For a Jaimini-on-the-other-hand, I woke up on
the morning of April 1st thinking about Judy, and feeling
such gratitude for her -- you know, Judy, you chopped my
angry arguments/stories up so nicely on
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rory Goff
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:48 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion with Judy about Guru Dev and
I noticed Doug Hamilton said there had been a Durga puja at his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Uh...
at a loss for words
If all that's for real, Rory, thank you.
(The truth, as they say, is probably somewhere
in between moi as Jedi-Judy incarnation of Durga
and as lowlife scum Harasser-in-Chief.)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Talk about synchronicity, I was just thinking yesterday how nice it
would be
to have Rory back on FFL, and here you are. Do not try to resist.
You are
under my control. It would also be nice to have you back in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
Uh...
at a loss for words
If all that's for real, Rory, thank you.
(The truth, as they say, is probably somewhere
in between moi as
Rory Goff wrote:
I remember I launched in with one of my patented
rails against the TMO and gradual-enlightenment
seekerdom and promptly lost my head on your sword...
Barry defended my POV, and Barry and I agreed with
each other so completely...
jstein wrote:
I had been away
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, no Rory Goff on AMT in 2002 dialoging with Judy;
no Uncle Tantra dialoging with Rory on AMT in 2002;
but the mystery of who started the lie that the
Maharishi once said that enlightenment could be
On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
I have never signed with Love Light, but always (if at
all) with Love, Light, and Laughter -- my version of Sat, Chit,
Ananda, or Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas, or Vishnu, Brahma, and Shiva
How about Moe, Larry and Curly?
I think maybe Judy is
So, no Rory Goff on AMT in 2002 dialoging with Judy;
no Uncle Tantra dialoging with Rory on AMT in 2002;
but the mystery of who started the lie that the
Maharishi once said that enlightenment could be
achieved in 5-7 years is now solved: Rory Goff.
But why would Rory come here and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the Maharishi apparently never did promise anyone
enlightenment in 5-7 years.
I am not sure if promise is the word, but in Nov 1967 in Berkeley
MMY talked specifically about how TM would result in CC in 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Maybe it wasn't AMT. Was there another TM-group that Bob
Brigante (he was there too) and Judy and Barry were on,
early in 2002? Or maybe my time-sense has dilated and it
was very late in 2001.
TMNews, and it was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyhow, as I said, I was thinking about you, and seeing you as a
kind of Jedi-Judy, weilding such a perfect, laser-sharp light-sword
of discrimination and chopping everyone's head off, or rather simply
holding the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
I have never signed with Love Light, but always (if at
all) with Love, Light, and Laughter -- my version of Sat, Chit,
Ananda, or Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
In a similar vein, though I am perhaps not as emphatic and
colorful as Rory,
*Nobody* is as emphatic and colorful as Rory.
I like Judy's focus, insight and logic in many of her posts. It
is interesting to see her
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
And the Maharishi apparently never did promise anyone
enlightenment in 5-7 years.
I am not sure if promise is the word, but in Nov
Thanks for the clue Vaj, that is really interesting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:41 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Well said, which probably makes a lot of us wonder why you bother in
the first place.
Because I enjoy it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand the distinction you are making. I'll give it some more
thought. Our discussions have improved over time and I did not
acknowledge that.
Thank you. Did you read my post #136670?
--- In
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The behavior that Judy continues to exhibit falls under
the title of harassment. See definition below and see
why most people on this chat have had enough of her and
her harassment.
Completely oblivious to his own double standards.
The inability of many on this
The behavior that Judy continues to exhibit falls
under the title of harassment.
So, it's all about Judy.
Yeah, but now we have to endure five mind numbingly boring and
obnoxious bottom posts of yours riffing on Judy's I'm smarter than
you riff. For God's sake, stop feeding it!
geezerfreak wrote:
Post 10,269 wherein Judy again riffs on her
I'm smarter than you theme. It is mind
numbingly boring
Hey T3inity,
That was really an interesting post! Sounds like you are really deep
into Indian culture. I would love to visit again.
I know that MMY has deviated from the traditional teachers in India
and caught flack for it from the traditional guys. I was wondering if
Guru Dev also
Vaj wrote:
The book does have some known errors..
What known errors would that be?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard,
I was thinking that mainstream religious types don't talk about
miracles much. They talk about love. They feel uncomfortable with
people who claim miracles. So they might be spiritual and believe in
Well said, which probably makes a lot of us wonder why you bother in
the first place.
Because I enjoy it until I don't! I used to have a scotty dog as a
kid. We would play ball till he got so revved up he would bite me.
Then I knew it was time to quit. It was basically a good dog though.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said, which probably makes a lot of us wonder why you bother
in
the first place.
Because I enjoy it until I don't! I used to have a scotty dog as a
kid. We would play ball till he got so revved up he
I understand the distinction you are making. I'll give it some more
thought. Our discussions have improved over time and I did not
acknowledge that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I only spent a short time in India with MMY. I agree with part of
what you wrote. I think you mean the empirical movement hit the
West harder and I agree that it hit there harder, first. India is
catching up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because I enjoy it until I don't! I used to have a scotty dog as a
kid. We would play ball till he got so revved up he would bite me.
Then I knew it was time to quit. It was basically a good dog though.
Arf.
On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:41 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Well said, which probably makes a lot of us wonder why you bother in
the first place.
Because I enjoy it until I don't! I used to have a scotty dog as a
kid. We would play ball till he got so revved up he would bite me.
Then I knew it was
On Mar 31, 2007, at 11:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
It is your underlying arrogant assumption that you know me better
than I know myself that makes you such a bore. It leaks into every
discussion. No one has blown holes in anything. We are all offering
our own point of view. Your insistence
The problem with being kicked off of FFLife is that it sort of qualifies one
to be here, vexing or not.
Tom T:
The behavior that Judy continues to exhibit falls under the title of
harassment. See definition below and see why most people on this chat
have had enough of her and her harassment.
Tom T:
The behavior that Judy continues to exhibit falls under the title of
harassment. See definition below and see why most people on this chat
have had enough of her and her harassment. Pick your favorite word to
describe her behavior.
snip
I was the one who advocated not piling on, BUT,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard,
I was thinking that mainstream religious types don't talk about
miracles much. They talk about love. They feel uncomfortable with
people who claim miracles. So they might be spiritual and believe in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you see the ST2 gals again, say hello for
Uncle Tantra, even though it's likely I never knew
them. They'll probably not know me, but they might
know Road Trip Mind. And if they do, it's probably
a coin flip as to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
If you see the ST2 gals again, say hello for
Uncle Tantra, even though it's likely I never knew
them. They'll probably not know me, but they might
On Mar 31, 2007, at 12:36 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I was thinking that mainstream religious types don't talk about
miracles much. They talk about love.
You are aware that the reason SBS is mentioned in magical terms is
very likely because he was one of the few Shanks who was known for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I just met a man who met Maharsishi in 1954-58, before he
came to the west, and he attributed what he called a miracle
to Maharishi (In this case its up to interpretation to call
it a miracle, Maharshi caught a plane
Snark is condescension after two bong hits and a half bag of Oreos.
The irony of the rest is too perfect to touch.
I enjoy our discussions up to the point that you use it as a tool to
criticize me personally, or my style of thinking, instead of talking
about the subject. I think we are looking
I really enjoyed what you wrote, Marek, because it represents your
personal view of and relationship with Guru Dev. He is a fascinating
guy. If he serves as an inspiration for your life then he has a real
value. I don't think I have any moral heroes left. Gandhi (who I
would be more inclined
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Snark is condescension after two bong hits and a half bag of Oreos.
The irony of the rest is too perfect to touch.
I enjoy our discussions up to the point that you use it as a
tool to criticize me personally,
Great post; thanks for posting this ! In my time in the Movement I
have seen so many things out of the ordinary that it could fill a
book. I also know a lady who swears sh
e saw Maharishi not walking up the stair but gliding in the air. The
Blad brothers also capured at least 1 such incident on
Judy,
It is your underlying arrogant assumption that you know me better than
I know myself that makes you such a bore. It leaks into every
discussion. No one has blown holes in anything. We are all offering
our own point of view. Your insistence that yours is the superior one
is what turns
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great post; thanks for posting this ! In my time in the Movement I
have seen so many things out of the ordinary that it could fill a
book. I also know a lady who swears sh
e saw Maharishi not walking up the stair
You've fallen into the Barry-Judy trap. You're
starting to sound like Barry AND Judy, the
reason that this forum is now being moderated
with a posting limit.
All you really have to do is just shut your
pie hole and take a drive to a local flea market.
Obviously some people just feel better
just shut your pie hole
Nice one. Now I understand how to have a civil discussion. That was
5, over and out.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've fallen into the Barry-Judy trap. You're
starting to sound like Barry AND Judy, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
Great post; thanks for posting this ! In my time in the Movement
I
have seen so many things out of the ordinary that it could fill a
book. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy,
It is your underlying arrogant assumption that you know me
better than I know myself that makes you such a bore.
Oh, nonsense. Do you really believe other people
aren't able to see things about you that
Lots of stories like this about MMY, and many that
have nothing to do with coincidence or synchronicity
(bilocation, among other things); Charlie Lutes was
apparently fond of telling these. A friend of mine
swore he had instantly cured her of a bad cold. And
a friend of hers reported
On Mar 31, 2007, at 11:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
It is your underlying arrogant assumption that you know me better than
I know myself that makes you such a bore. It leaks into every
discussion. No one has blown holes in anything. We are all offering
our own point of view. Your insistence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you go after them personally if you can't win
your argument.
Gee, I thought I *had* won that one, actually.
Of course you think that Judith. That's 4 for you today by the way.
Let's get the last one over with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Me, I don't know why he took himself out. I wrote
down some of my theories about it in a story
(http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm53.html),
and the bottom line of that story (written now
almost ten years ago) is the
Comment below:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**snip**
There are very few people who really influence us in our lives. People
who have touched our hearts and minds. They may have their weakness,
they may have, what others consider to be 'fallen'.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example: some people here (not you) make a big story about the
sexual (mis-)conduct of Maharishi.
snip
For example Maharishi has established monastic groups, which
allowed me to lead such a life, for which I will be
This section was reversed by speaker name, sorry!
It should read:
Judy:I wouldn't doubt it, but isn't that a bit of a
self-selected sample? How likely is it that
Indians who took such claims for granted would
be those you would make friends with in the
first place?
Me: They are self-selected
Curtis, without snipping any of your post (below) or spending a whole
lot more time or words on the subject, it seems pretty clear that
Guru Dev, himself, believed in siddhis and miracles, as is obvious
from Paul Mason's site with quotes from him exactly on that subject,
as well as the bios of
As always I am glad you weighed in Marek! I agree with what you said
up to a point. Certainly Guru Dev had such beliefs and may have
viewed his own experiences as proof of miracles. Since I am not
inclined to believe in River Goddesses giving monetary boons to
people, I still think there was
Curtis, Marek has made my points more
authoritatively and far more succinctly than
I've been able to do, so I'll bow out, except
for this:
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Your thinking is so very rigid when it suits
your purposes, and
Condescension is not kindness.
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Curtis, Marek has made my points more
authoritatively and far more succinctly than
I've been able to do, so I'll bow out, except
for this:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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As always I am glad you weighed in Marek! I agree with what you
said
up to a point. Certainly Guru Dev had such beliefs and may have
viewed his own experiences as proof of miracles. Since I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Condescension is not kindness.
That wasn't condescension, it was snark.
In response to pomposity.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Curtis, Marek has made my points more
Marek Reavis wrote:
But, based on everything I have heard or
read about Guru Dev, I feel that his
character and personality are totally
worthy of emulation, reverence and respect.
From what I've read, Rajaram Mishra fully supported
the Indian varnashramadharma system. That's why
he didn't
Ccurtis wrote:
So far I think that people making claims
of miracles to gain spiritual credibility
are more suspect than those who do not.
Well, it would be pretty difficult to find
a spiritual person who didn't believe in
spirits, ergo, a miracle, since every
materialist knows that there
Richard,
I was thinking that mainstream religious types don't talk about
miracles much. They talk about love. They feel uncomfortable with
people who claim miracles. So they might be spiritual and believe in
God, but not buy that some preacher can heal cancer by shouting at
you. I think this
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