Re: MONWRITE

2011-03-25 Thread Maxim Bochagov
to setup MONWRITE to collect monitor data and I'm slightly > confused as to what MONITOR SAMPLE and MONITOR EVENT does. The cheat sheet I > found on ibm.com lists the following: > > CP MONITOR SAMPLE ENABLE ALL > CP MONITOR EVENT ENABLE STORAGE > CP MONITOR EVENT ENABLE PROCESSOR &

Re: MONWRITE

2011-03-24 Thread David Boyes
There's two kinds of monitors: things that happen all the time that you periodically want to take a sample to get a sense of what's going on (like CPU usage), and things that don't happen all the time but post specific events when they DO happen. These events are usually things you'd want to kn

MONWRITE

2011-03-24 Thread Billy Bingham
All, Trying to setup MONWRITE to collect monitor data and I'm slightly confused as to what MONITOR SAMPLE and MONITOR EVENT does. The cheat sheet I found on ibm.com lists the following: CP MONITOR SAMPLE ENABLE ALL CP MONITOR EVENT ENABLE STORAGE CP MONITOR EVENT ENABLE PROCESSOR CP MO

Re: May we see your MONWRITE data?

2009-03-27 Thread Brian Wade
I'd like to thank those who are contributing. Also, if you haven't contributed yet, please consider doing so. Thanks to all. Brian

May we see your MONWRITE data?

2009-03-24 Thread Brian Wade
Readers, IBM z/VM Performance would like to see some specimens of MONWRITE data from customer systems believed to be performing to expectation, that is, not known to be suffering from any problems. If you would like to participate, please see the instructions at: http://www.vm.ibm.com

Re: Problem with new MONWRITE options

2009-02-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
ime to retrieve the data. So you missed configuration data and maybe even the first samples. Without configuration data, the files are of little value. Depending on how MONWRITE is written, you may be able to stretch things by adjusting the time that CP keeps configuration data available for ret

Re: Problem with new MONWRITE options

2009-02-17 Thread Kris Buelens
it Or - MOVEAWAY issues an SMSG to the other server the other server uses WAKEUP (SMSG and LINKs to MONWRITE to come and get the monitor data file and FT it (the SMSG would include the fn and ft of the file to FTP The last method would be the fastest, but, if the other server would be gone, mo

Problem with new MONWRITE options

2009-02-17 Thread Rempel, Horst
Hello, I am running z/VM 5.4.0 and I want to collect monitorrecords using the new monwrite options CLOSE bndy CONFIG EXEC efn. My monitor sample interval is 1 min. For a test I used ' MONWRITE MONDCSS *MONITOR DISK CLOSE 15 CONFIG EXEC MOVEAWAY' Every 15 min the file will be clo

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Hal Schmitigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I updated MDATTRAN REXX replacing the call to CONVERT_TOD with a CALLPIPE > using DATECONV. I let IBM know, so maybe someone will put an update on > the downloads page soon. There's a lot more to win with recent plum

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-28 Thread Hal Schmitigal
FYI, I found that MONVIEW output has the wrong date beginning 2/29/08. I updated MDATTRAN REXX replacing the call to CONVERT_TOD with a CALLPIPE using DATECONV. I let IBM know, so maybe someone will put an update on the downloads page soon. MDATTRAN SREXXJ1 V 80 Trunc=80 Size=133 Lin

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-27 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Thanks to all for your replies! Alyce From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files A VMARC file should be FIXED

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-27 Thread Kris Buelens
; Alyce > > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Berry van Sleeuwen > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:45 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > > Hello Alyce, > > A

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
essage- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berry van Sleeuwen Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files Hello Alyce, As Mike said, looks like a upload error. I guess these are from the IBM VM packag

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-26 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
ta is found. So delete the files that were unpacked, upload the VMARC files again and unpack again. Regards, Berry. Austin, Alyce (CIV) schreef: Hello, When I issue the following vmarc commands in preparation for the monwrite procedures, this is what I get: vmarc unpk monview vmarc a MONVIEW

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-26 Thread Mike Walter
opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Austin, Alyce (CIV)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/26/2008 04:06 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: MONWRITE f

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-26 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Hello, When I issue the following vmarc commands in preparation for the monwrite procedures, this is what I get: vmarc unpk monview vmarc a MONVIEW SCRIPT A1. Bytes in= 11776, bytes out= 6168 ( 52%). Invalid header for compacted file. Ready(8); T=0.01/0.01 13:38:10

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Good, I will define a new complete volume on userid monwrite. I need to collect data for a period of time for capacity planning. Even though I have performance toolkit, it has been suggested that I use the CP2KVMXT Utility whose output will be used by IBM and/or its partners as input to their

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Thomas Kern
No, I actually make sure my data collection minidisks are not on the sysr es volume. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:32:44 -0700, Austin, Alyce (CIV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello, > >Does the MONWRITE userid have to be on the RES volume to collect data? > >Thanks, >Alyce

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Ron Schmiedge
No. Ours isn't. On 3/19/08, Austin, Alyce (CIV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Does the MONWRITE userid have to be on the RES volume to collect data? > > Thanks, > Alyce > >

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Hello, Does the MONWRITE userid have to be on the RES volume to collect data? Thanks, Alyce -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Stefan Raabe
mhhh the cms pipe version looks good, too bad i did not knew about that one before i wrote my exec... :-) Cheers, Stefan Stefan Raabe 19.03.2008 08:32 To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: MONWRITE files I collect these records for CPU statistics: ddrr (domain / record

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-19 Thread Stefan Raabe
. If you are interested in the exec, please let me know. at least it can be taken as a sample how to extract the monitoring data, it was a bit of a puzzling work because i did not find a documentation about the monwrite file format, i had to find out by myself how the logical monitor records are

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Or you could look at the Redbooks. The additional files from REDP3818 has a sample for a monwrite machine that filters records. In this case CPU usage records. Kris, isn't TSLAMON avalable on the VM download packages? Regards, Berry. Kris Buelens schreef: Here some code from y TSLAMON

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Barton Robinson
If you search google, using "z/VM performance capacity planning", you should see "velocitysoftware.com/whylps.html" as the first link. This is the description of instrumentation requirements. I've also offered zMON (dirt cheap, by the way) as a real time monitor that will produce records for M

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Thomas Kern
I would be interested in getting a copy of the complete TSLMON EXEC. Thanks for your help. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 /U.S. Department of Energy /[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:19:43 +0100, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Here some code from y TSLAMON EXEC that performs some

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Kris Buelens
> > > > > -Original Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Harry Williams > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:59 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > >

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread David Boyes
> Almost. I would consider the PIPE that uses the starmon stage to be a > utility; the stage by itself is simply a tool used to build the utility. An interesting thought: when was the last time someone sat down and went through everything that's on the default S disk? It might be very interesting/

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
A. Harry Williams > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:59 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > > > Actually, there already is such a utility program, and it is > shipped with every z/VM system. It's kept on the 190 or > S-disk so you may not

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:41:24 -0500 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Kern?= said: >Maybe this is where we need a NEW utility program, since MONWRITE is doing >exactly the job it was written for (copying ALL monitor data to disk/tape?). >Perhaps a utility that when pointed at a selection criteria f

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Thomas Kern
Because as someone pointed out before (Barton, I think), for performance monitoring, you want more event data and for capacity planning you need appropriate sample data. I think PerfTK could deal with more data than it needs for online real-time performance monitoring, while another process select

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Jim Bohnsack
monitor segment in the first place? Jim Thomas Kern wrote: Maybe this is where we need a NEW utility program, since MONWRITE is doin= g exactly the job it was written for (copying ALL monitor data to disk/tape= ?). Perhaps a utility that when pointed at a selection criteria file and a monwrite

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Thomas Kern
Maybe this is where we need a NEW utility program, since MONWRITE is doin g exactly the job it was written for (copying ALL monitor data to disk/tape ?). Perhaps a utility that when pointed at a selection criteria file and a monwrite output file, will copy only those monitor records sellected. Or

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Hamilton, Brian
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Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-18 Thread Stefan Raabe
f data being collected in the mondcss so you can monitor your system, but for the reporting on z/OS only little of this data is required. thats why i set up this procedureto reduce the required disk space: * monwrite is defined with 2 minidisks,, both 500 cylinders * every 2 hours a stop and st

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas Kern
Is that the one where you look it up in the messages file (I don't rememb er a real manual for these messages) and it add these responses: User Response: See your System Administrator. System Administrator Response: See your Systems Programmer. Systems Programmer Response: See your Systemes Prog

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Jefferson Davis
STSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS) Don't you just love that real informative error message? ;-)> -- Dale R. Smith "Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for oth

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Dale R. Smith
Don't you just love that real informative error message? ;-)> -- Dale R. Smith "Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for others for the rest of his life."

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Peter . Webb
OVMAIL EXEC B1 F 1024 4 1 1995-09-06 9:27 Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: March 14, 2008 11:52 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] MONWRITE files (PROFS) OVMAIL works fine on ou

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Stanley Rarick
No intention of cheating. Unfortunately, never lucky enoough (in 30+ years with VM) to have had the experience of working with PROFS/OV I was basing my statement more on the following : EPRERELN SEXECB1 V 80 Trunc=80 Size=142 Line=0 Col=1 Alt=0 >

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Ed Zell
> IMHO, the nice thing about PROFS (and OV/VM) was that > everyone spent time working on the content of the message > instead of fonts, colors, clip-art, etc. I hear that loud and clear. If the content stinks, no amount of "prettying it up" will help a document. Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Mike Walter
quot;The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/14/2008 10:36 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS) We can join Stanley's contest. We have 1 user left. Unfortunately, she is an EVP with 1700 notelogs

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Peter . Webb
OVMAIL works fine on our z/VM 5.3 system. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: March 14, 2008 11:37 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS) We can join Stanley's contest. We h

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
We can join Stanley's contest. We have 1 user left. Unfortunately, she is an EVP with 1700 notelogs :( and a 2000 cylinder a-disk. Beware that the OVMAIL command stops working with z/VM 5.3. She had to learn how to find notelogs with filelist. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/o

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Kris Buelens
Stanley Rarick is cheating, Mark wants to win the price for the last PROFS, Office Vision/VM is another contest ;-) 2008/3/14, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Stanley Rarick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Standard OfficeVision Me

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Stanley Rarick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Standard OfficeVision Menu > Press one of the following PF keys. > PF1 Process schedules... Time: 10:18 AM > PF2 Open the mail > PF3 Browse employee direct

Re: MONWRITE files (PROFS)

2008-03-14 Thread Stanley Rarick
pinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "David Kreuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/13/2008 03:58 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: MONWRITE files

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/13/2008 at 05:54 EDT, barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait a minute here, hold your horses or whatever. MONWRITE is NOT an ibm > product, it's a "Free" tool just like CMS COPY, or DDR. MONWRITE is a utility documented in the Chapter 3 of the

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread barton
Wait a minute here, hold your horses or whatever. MONWRITE is NOT an ibm product, it's a "Free" tool just like CMS COPY, or DDR. Beginners think this is the state of the art, but as any large shop (that has time to investigate) knows, they are not for production. They do their jo

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Mike Walter
"David Kreuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/13/2008 03:58 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: MONWRITE files yeah so I have been around for a while, wha

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:58 PM, David Kreuter wrote: yeah so I have been around for a while, what can I say? "You kids get offa my lawn! Where's my Geritol got to?" usually works for me. Adam

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread David Kreuter
yeah so I have been around for a while, what can I say? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thu 3/13/2008 4:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] MONWRITE files That is a historical reference. PROFS (O/V) has not

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
1:46 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > > "I don't care about vm is my PROFS working?" > > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard > Sent: Thu 3/13/2008 3:34 PM > To: IBMVM@L

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread David Kreuter
"I don't care about vm is my PROFS working?" -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thu 3/13/2008 3:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] MONWRITE files I haven't gotten one asking if it is Friday, bu

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
32 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > > > an upcoming change or outage will affect all users of the system > What upcoming change!? What outage!? Why weren't we told > earlier so that we could properly prepare!? Will it affect me? > Is it Friday y

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Mike Walter
d do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/13/2008 02:20 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilborn, Jerry > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:06 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: MONWRITE files > > Mea Culpa...reading is fundamental. >

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Wilborn, Jerry
Mea Culpa...reading is fundamental. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files My note was a response to Barton, not Alan

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread David Boyes
My note was a response to Barton, not Alan. Alan *has* been civil during the entire discussion, as usual.

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:02:37 -0400, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >and the advertising level is getting a bit annoying again. As a bystander, when a question is asked which an available tool can help address I do not object to it being briefly mentioned. Whether the tool has a cos

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Wilborn, Jerry
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files On Thursday, 03/13/2008 at 12:15 EDT, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [assorted snarling] > > Take it off list, folks. Yo

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/13/2008 at 12:15 EDT, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [assorted snarling] > > Take it off list, folks. You can agree to disagree, but a certain level > of civility is expected. This level of confrontation isn't useful or > productive; it scares the newbies, and the adve

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread David Boyes
> [assorted snarling] Take it off list, folks. You can agree to disagree, but a certain level of civility is expected. This level of confrontation isn't useful or productive; it scares the newbies, and the advertising level is getting a bit annoying again.

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread barton
Wasn't going to answer, but Bill P goaded me to it. Is some monitor data worthless to be recorded? YES, LOTS OF IT for the MXG user. Is the shelf life short? YES for much of it. (Disks doing zero I/O but online?) Is MONWRITE writing garbage? Not all of it. To most users, much of the da

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-13 Thread Bill Pettit
Ohh... This could get interesting -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barton Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files Alan, look at what he's collecting. If you don&#x

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Hamilton, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've tried feeding the perf toolkit trend files into MXG however we > have been told MXG will only process raw MONITOR data (4096 > records)...that's what I have been told. So 'they' have not told the full story. M

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-12 Thread Hamilton, Brian
al Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eginhard Jaeger Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files Brian, the 'Q MONITOR' output you included appears to be just the information rela

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-12 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
, that displays information only for a single user at a time, and SCHEDULER event data collection should be activated only for that specific user while it is needed.) The amount of disk space needed for the MONWRITE file will depend largely on the number of users and disks you collect data for. So

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
the shelf life is some of the data is so short that it has no value in a disk file? Or are you telling me that MONWRITE is writing garbage or double-writing or not writing or ...? If you're going to accuse MONWRITE of bad behavior, then I think you should tell me what you think it is

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread barton
Alan, look at what he's collecting. If you don't think that is miscollecting, you should take the class too. Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 03/12/2008 at 01:09 EDT, barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MONWRITE was not even very well accepted 20 years ago when it bec

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/12/2008 at 01:09 EDT, barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MONWRITE was not even very well accepted 20 years ago when it became available > because of the volume of data and "mis-collection" of data. Eh? MONWRITE is a tool for collecting raw mon

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread barton
recommend "http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html";? At least day one. MONWRITE was not even very well accepted 20 years ago when it became available because of the volume of data and "mis-collection" of data. And the volume of data has increased in 20 years. The re

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Feller, Paul
, March 11, 2008 5:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files Thanks again... And ideal on the amount of data were talking here on a typical day? Typical mini disk size's??? 500 cyls, full 3390 mod 3, multiple mod-3's... This is currently what is being actively

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Dave Jones
I would estimate about 1 (or maybe a bit more) 3390-3 DASD per day to hold the raw performance data stream from MONWRITE. Of course, if you will want to keep more that one day's worth of raw data, you'll need that much more extra DASD space reserved. As Barton has already mention

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Hamilton, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And ideal on the amount of data were talking here on a typical day? To my standards, a lot. For a decent z/VM with two dozen Linux servers, think about one or more 3390-3 per day. My experience is that installations w

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread barton
A different solution is to use ESAMON to feed MXG. That way, MXG gets all the network data, Linux data, and the disk storage is about 1% of what raw data requires. ESAMON would then be a complete replacement for Perf kit, monwrite, and a lot of disk space - not to mention the cycles involved

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Hamilton, Brian
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE files Hi, Brian Hamilton, Brian wrote: > Thanks Dave > > Where would I find the instructions to setup and begin running monwrite? > Right here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsi1b20/3.2? SHELF=hcsh2a90

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Brian Hamilton, Brian wrote: Thanks Dave Where would I find the instructions to setup and begin running monwrite? Right here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsi1b20/3.2?SHELF=hcsh2a90.bks&DT=20070424084605 (watch out for line wrap) Brian -

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Thanks Dave Where would I find the instructions to setup and begin running monwrite? Brian -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: MONWRITE

Re: MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Brian. You don't need to run the MONWRITE virtual service machine simply to feed the CP performance monitor data to PERFKIT. PERFKIT can collect the raw monitor data directly from the MONDCSS saved segment. You only need to run MONWRITE if you want it to collect the raw monitor da

MONWRITE files

2008-03-11 Thread Hamilton, Brian
We run the IBM performance toolkit product. I understand that MONWRITE feeds Perf tool kit. Is there a way I can write MONWRITE files to disk as well as let them feed Perf tool kit? Why do you ask, I want to use MXG to report on zVm. Brian

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-12 Thread Roger Lunsford
Rob, no apology necessary and I hope I did not come across as wanting to start or play in a 'mine vs yours' game or make readers think that. While it is true that the history data files do not contain the same detail as raw mondata, they are worthwhile to review and investigate if one is not f

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Nov 9, 2007 9:34 PM, Roger Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PERFKIT can create HISTORY DATA files, which can be looked at > as "condensed monitor data" files. The PERFKIT can also process these That's not really the same. Those are just a small set of (system wide) metrics that are k

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Lunsford
The PERFKIT can create HISTORY DATA files, which can be looked at as "condensed monitor data" files. The PERFKIT can also process these data files via the PERFKIT MENU OPTION 32 HISTORY DATA FILES. Within the ACUM HISTSUM and the MMDD HISTLOG I can see the CPU Utilization on each monitor

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Nov 8, 2007 8:22 AM, Jeff Gribbin, EDS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regarding the, "problem" of perhaps wishing to only collect a subset of > the monitor records for, "MONWRITE" / post-processing activities while > still needing a fuller set of records for re

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Gribbin, EDS
Regarding the, "problem" of perhaps wishing to only collect a subset of the monitor records for, "MONWRITE" / post-processing activities while still needing a fuller set of records for realtime monitoring, it is really a trivial exercise to write a PIPE that collects MON

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-07 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
Is there any specific reason why you would want to first collect the monitor data using MONWRITE, and only then run the analysis in batch mode? One would usually let PerfKit collect the data in real time and just let it print whatever reports you're interested in for the periods you wan

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Subject: Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk On 11/1/07, Hamilton, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes 90 > cyls You're right. Raw data files are huge. One option is to make the interval

Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 11/1/07, Hamilton, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes 90 > cyls…. You're right. Raw data files are huge. One option is to make the interval larger, but this also very much limits the detail you can see in your real time data

Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Hello, I'm using Performance toolkit and would like to use the batch interface. I've set up the Performance toolkit batch commands however my problem now is the MONITOR DATA file. The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes 90 cyls My goal is to collect th

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Larry Macioce
Oh the rules are different for a mindisk I was looking at it as a 3390-3 w/850kb per cyl. Oh well thanks Mace

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 6/13/06, Larry Macioce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Jim that got me on. But now I'm a little puzzled(as always) When I started to view what files were in monwrite the file that had captured data had 16171 rec at 4k apiece. With a little math that came up to almos 78 cyls. I

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Vincent
z/VM Operating System wrote on 06/13/2006 08:35:38 AM: > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Thanks Jim that got me on. But now I'm a little puzzled(as always) When I > started to view what files were in monwrite the file that had captured > data had 16171 rec at 4k apiece. With a

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Kris Buelens
My PRFRUN server (available on www.vm.ibm.com) keeps an eye on MONWRITE.  It estimates how big an avarage daily MONWRITE file is, and at midnight it will ERASE MONDATA files untill it has free space for an avarage day.  Part of it is IMMERASE, a compiled REXX exec that can be run as immediate CMS

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Larry Macioce
Thanks Jim that got me on. But now I'm a little puzzled(as always) When I started to view what files were in monwrite the file that had captured data had 16171 rec at 4k apiece. With a little math that came up to almos t 78 cyls. I'm 12 short. The other 3 file have 14 4k recs. So i

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Jim Vincent
There are a couple ways. From a authorized userid (someone with OPTION LNKNOPAS or equivalent link authority - or by using the MULT password of the mini disk) link R/W to the disk and clean off what you can. Or you can try logging on to MONWRITE and before tapping enter at the CMS prompt, enter

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-13 Thread Larry Macioce
If monwrite doesn't clean itself up how do I get rid of the data if I wan t to collect more?? thanks Mace

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-12 Thread Bill Bitner
If you have Toolkit running, MONDAT is the command to see what data is collected and how much of each. You don't have to have MONWRITE running to use the Performance Toolkit. If you want to keep raw MONWRITE data around, various reasons were discussed recently on the list, you'll nee

Re: Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-12 Thread Jim Bohnsack
If you're filling up a 90 cyl disk in one hour, you are probably collecting a lot more types of monitor data than you need. I started with MONWRITE also with Perf Toolkit but then found that somehow, automagically, PERFSVM collects enough of it's own to fill in the blanks. If

Monwrite will not stay logged on

2006-06-12 Thread Larry Macioce
I started collecting data(per the book) as we are going to be using the perfkit. I configured the monwrite profile to collect data and we looked at the dir and saw we had 90cyls to write data to. We started monwrite an d let it run for awhile(maybe an hr). Looked and it was gone. I thought

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