On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i will answer some of the questions you all asked and observe
her, she is so calm but may be shell shocked.
Looks and sounds good so far!
V
I went to a big foal watch party and ride yesterday. It was a
bigger party than ride. My friend Sylvia's mare Bob is now
officially two days overdue. Everyone stared at her all afternoon
while we bar b qued. It was like watching paint dry. I took teev so
Bob could stare at him from the stall
wow Ann, don't know how tall you are but she is a nice size! She has
a pretty head doesnt she! What color? Is she sun faded black or dun
of some kind?I think when you first get them and they act perfect
they are waiting for the other shoe to fall and being on their best
behavior as a herd
vee haff vays to make yoo toelte! Efen in hond you vill submitt!
i think we need to declare horses like my Tivar as heroes, horses who
will have a fit before they will allow you to hurt them...
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
i wish we could get a specific review like this about the Dave
Grenadek and Fallis saddles. I will try and do one on my antique bona
allen which seems to fit any horse but Teev, which I really would be
shocked to find any tree would fit unless custom fitted. I love my
orthoflex Stitchdown, to
Oh man. . . not what I'd hoped to hear.
Renee, I have fantasies too :), but from living vicariously thru my
friend Susan, I think it would be better to start out with
competitive trail riding with the NATRC before getting into endurance.
Its a way to learn the rules and ride a conditioned
its almost like the national enquirer alien abducted horse found on
I-10 with swastica implanted in forehead!
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Just out of curiosity, how many times a week and what is the average
number of miles per ride, and what is the weekly average total miles he puts
in his Sensation? You don't need to be specific, just thow out, on average
the number of days a week he puts more than 8 miles in the Sensation.
We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best
for them. So let us not get into a fight over tree
vs. treeless. Every horse is an individual and every
owner has different needs. I have treeless, but I
also want a treed. That is why I went looking at all
the saddles. Petty fighting and
So, why would someone use this type of rig on a soft-mouthed horse?
Why WOULD they...? Who knows? SHOULD they need to? Absolutely not. The
picture is not consistent with the words. I'm very skeptical that any horse
ridden in a harsh bit is soft mouthed.
I stupidly continued to use the
Dancing horses of South America, the caballos de paso,
http://tinyurl.com/2htdax
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Raven
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Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/03/2008, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i think it would be good for this back shape
Janice
Or this back shape.
HAHAHAHA oh gosh we are pathetic, looking for any excuse to post
photos of our little
Hi Karen...how many days/hours/miles per week? At what speed is he
moving out? Terrain? I think it's great that Senastion is working out for
your horses. I still have mine...it's my backup saddle. ;p[]
Sure, Raven, I just answered that in another post, even though I've written
about it many
It says the horse was trained by Gudmar, has a soft mouth, and
beautiful
head carriage but this type of head gear would not indicate
that.
It looks mean, but it really didn't seem to be a terrible bit in use.
The horse had warning before it got it's face crushed in the vice. ;)
I think it would be better to start out with
competitive trail riding with the NATRC before getting into endurance.
I would love to do NATRC, but I have never seen an event advertised in
Oregon. This could very well be because I am way out of that loop. Does
anyone know ?
Nancy
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:52 AM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best
for them.
Those people with really strong opinions need to
remember that other people are allowed to have
opinions, too, and it doesn't mean one person is wrong
and
Dancing horses of South America, the caballos de paso,
http://tinyurl.com/2htdax
This is a good video to watch in regard to what they say about the Paso.
Judy
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On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:31:02PM -0800, Lynn Kinsky wrote:
It says the horse was trained by Gudmar, has a soft mouth, and
beautiful
head carriage but this type of head gear would not indicate
that.
speaking as someone who's been in gudmar's tack room, it's msotly filled
with
It dawned on me that I might just learn something on the NATRC website.
It's true. At present there are seven rides scheduled in our region for
California sites and an eighth in Alaska. Guess why I haven't heard of
NATRC around here.
Nancy
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:52:55AM -0800, susan cooper wrote:
We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best
for them. So let us not get into a fight over tree
vs. treeless. Every horse is an individual and every
owner has different needs. I have treeless, but I
also want a treed.
I was shocked when someone said some people wont
even ride with you if you have shoes on your horses ?!??!?
The lady I ride with had a very best forever riding girlfriend. Their
husbands were friends. They moved to Oregon together. The guys worked
together. When the other lady went
Those people with really strong opinions need to
remember that other people are allowed to have
opinions, too, and it doesn't mean one person is wrong
and the other person right. They are just different.
Amen to that.
Nancy, who lives in the house of different
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think American Flex and Timberline are just
watered down copyright infringements,
I think you have a point there! The Timberline guy
said to me the took what the original maker (Les?) had
good with the original Ortho-flex(before he sold the
Janice,
You sure said the truth about Tivar. I knew he wanted to be someone's
only horse and #1. it is funny how some horses fir in fine with a
gang, and bring ridden every now and again and others want to be
themain horse. Stella and Djangi know they have special laces in my
heart just for them
There have been times when he can Skjoni have built up to riding as much as
3-4 hours per ride, with maybe 20-25 miles in
a weekend.
Okay Karen, I understand that neither you nor Cary has any interest in
riding Limited Distance or Endurance, but this is just about the amount of
conditioning
Here is the URL of the videos/pictures I took:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCrBYV53l2Y
About the flexible Boz, where John steps on the tree:
How many pounds of pressure does it take to flex the tree?
Would it flex from the horse's shoulder moving?
Judy
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 07:24:43 -0600, you wrote:
Everyone stared at her all afternoon
while we bar b qued
Yep. I should have thought that's just exactly what an overdue mare
needs to encourage her to foal, a bunch of strangers and their horses
standing there staring at her
Mic
Mic (Michelle)
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to do NATRC, but I have never seen an
event advertised in Oregon.
I originally wanted to do NATRC, but the only rides
were over the hill and I hate taking a car over the
hill, let alone a horse trailer. That section of I-80
over the
We go to have
fun and do a really long trail ride and camp with
other horse crazy people.
And to see gloriously beautiful trails that we would never even know of
otherwise.
Susan, I don't like the road down to the Redwoods Ride - it's really awful -
but we really should consider meeting
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About the flexible Boz, where John steps on the
tree:
How many pounds of pressure does it take to flex the
tree?
Would it flex from the horse's shoulder moving?
I don't have a clue. He gave me a tape to watch when
I got home, and I was
Bibi came to my place the summer of 1994 with her mother Stella and
friend Mura (now Laree's) and Mura's colt Joki and Tivar's mom Litla.
The babes were about a month old or less and they stayed until the
late fall. I had a nice pasture and knew nothing about Icelandics. I
was told not to touch
K...if you ride your horse a few days during the week...long slow
rides, you could easily do a CTR ride on the weekend. Granted...not
endurance, but still a fun ride.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
I think American Flex and Timberline are just watered down
copyright infringements
if you go to cathy's web site...you can learn alot of OR/American
Flex/ AmerFlex history. Len Brown who developed the OF also developed
the American Flex (after OF went bankrupted) since then he has had a
few
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be happy to answer that - I've talked about it
on the list many times -
BUT, if I do, I'd still like for you to answer
the question I asked you first. :) Who is the
they who said that treeless saddles aren't
working?
Ok, you answered
Here's a post about silver color in Icelandics:
http://greenrage.wordpress.com/2008/03/01/pigment-cells-and-the-silver-locus-dog-and-pony-show/
Judy
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So... why are the riders doing this to the horses?
Who are the riders? Are they trainers? certified trainers? Holar
graduates? members of the Icelandic Trainers Association?
If this is the style they are riding, is this what they are teaching?
It seems that the majority of professional /
This is the trot that is being shown in evaluations
Judy
H-m-m-m, I've been wishing that they would adopt a more western
style of riding, and I guess they have -- show ring Western
Pleasure. Careful what you wish for . . . .
Kat
(For those of you who are lucky enough not to see a
So... why are the riders doing this to the horses?
Who are the riders? Are they trainers? certified trainers? Holar
graduates? members of the Icelandic Trainers Association?
If this is the style they are riding, is this what they are
teaching?
It seems that the majority of
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This is the correct URL for the last photo:
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Judy
K...if you ride your horse a few days during the week...long slow
rides, you could easily do a CTR ride on the weekend. Granted...not
endurance, but still a fun ride.
IF I wanted to do a CTR. But, I don't want to and I've said that many
times, so I'm not sure why you're addressing that to
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here are pictures of Flekka (pinto) and Maja (black), due in about 5-8
weeks. Note the profile of Maja at the right edge of the picture of Flekka,
the pinto.
Flekka has quite the belly!
V
Oh man. . . not what I'd hoped to hear.
Renee, I have fantasies too :), but from living vicariously thru myfriend
Susan, I think it would be better to start out with competitive trail
riding with the NATRC before getting into endurance.
Janice,
Oh goodness, I didn't mean to imply I was any
I had asked if Alfalfa pellets are bad for Icelandics
last week. I heard from someone that Icelandics can't
digest them or something. Any answers??? Thanks
Lorraine
Looking for last minute shopping
Took a picture of the dreadlocks in Charm's mane
today.
Very Bob Marley.
Lorraine
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--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hoped a few of you (Raven, Susan...) would share
their schedules and experiences.
Well, here is my schedule:
I work 13 1/2 hour days on Tuesday, Wednesday, and
Thursday, so no matter the time of year, I don't do
anything on those days but come home
I had asked if Alfalfa pellets are bad for Icelandics
last week. I heard from someone that Icelandics can't
digest them or something. Any answers??? Thanks
Hi Lorraine,
We have hay cubes made from alfalfa here, not sure I've ever seen
alfalfa pellets, except for rabbits. : )
Anyway,
I had asked if Alfalfa pellets are bad for Icelandics
last week. I heard from someone that Icelandics can't
digest them or something. Any answers??? Thanks
Sorry for not responding about my experience with alfalfa. I use alfalfa /
bermuda grass pellets for treats for clicker training.
I think that the Track system helps with keeping horses in shape...
I and my horses love our track system!!!
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On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had asked if Alfalfa pellets are bad for Icelandics
last week. I heard from someone that Icelandics can't
digest them or something. Any answers??? Thanks
I think they can digest them but don't need that much protein.
I think that the Track system helps with keeping horses in shape...
I am hoping that's the case here. I am researching options at the moment
for my inside fencing. We have 4-strand, electrified, hi-tensile
perimeter fence, so I've got to have something VERY horse friendly if I'm
going to
No, my point was: I would feel VERY encouraged if I heard people doing
25, 50 and 100 miles on a regular basis were finding no problems doing
those miles in a treeless.It's actually what I would have preferred to
hear.: )It would make me feel even better about my little
Make it narrow in some areas, it increases movement... kind of pushes
them through...
I and my horses love our track system!!!
http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackSystem
The Soul of a Horse ~ has touched my soul, may it touch yours too!
~ thesoulofahorse.com/Pre-Order-Reviews.htm ~
I was just talking to Dan, we have 12 feet in some areas, 15 feet in
other areas, and 20 the rest of the areas, then I have a couple wider
areas... with the 5 horses on maybe 2 acres of pasture, I am not
mowing much at all, they eat it down very quicly, I do have to mow,
drag, tend to the POOP
--- Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would feel VERY encouraged if I heard people
doing 25, 50 and 100 miles on a regular basis were
finding no problems doing those miles in a treeless.
It's actually what I would have preferred to hear.
They are successful in treeless! I didn't
We have 4-strand, electrified, hi-tensile perimeter fence, so I've got
to have something VERY horse friendly if I'm going to do a corridor
with that for the outside. My husband also suggested we not go
narrower than 20 feet.
Renee, we have what we refer to as the runway between two of
I think that the Track system helps with keeping horses in shape...
I'm skeptical that would add serious conditioning to an average horse.
Sure, it may be better than having horses standing in a small dry lot all
day. Right now, most of my horses are in a contiguous pasture of about 18
Karen, have you read the book, the track is a continuous oval, I think
Jammie suggests that it be even narrower then 20, I like 20, I like
having the narrow areas too... they MOVE.. which is what you want them
to do... It took my Hubby a little while to get his mind around it
too... in the areas
The circle makes a HUGE difference... I did not believe it until I saw
it, it really is amazing...
--
I and my horses love our track system!!!
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Oh boy - can't wait to see the babies.
Nancy
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They brush out very easily.
That surprises me! I thought they'd be difficult to brush out.
V
I'm glad I don't live nearby. I would be very jealous of her blonde mane.
We have black x four here.
Nancy
It's beautiful and sunny here this afternoon after several days of cold
rain. It seemed like a good day to go do some arena work with Tosca.
However, when I got to Creekside, one of the girls was having her lesson in
the riding ring. It seemed that the polite thing to do was not to join her
Yrsa wants the number of her hair dresser. She thinks that inside, she has
the heart of a blonde.
Nancy
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Ferne Fedeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a manure spreader that can be
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so I took Tosca out on her first solo trail ride.
Good for you and Tosca! Last 2 times I took Andi out,
I got hurt! I hurt my foot today when I dismounted -
came down on my right foot wrong. Damn, clutzy old woman!
Susan in NV
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a manure spreader that can be
pulled behind an ATV? These look nice but don't know the first thing
about
Those blondes are special :-).
What's this? She's making sport of her less glamorous friends?
Nancy
Last 2 times I took Andi out,
I got hurt! I hurt my foot today when I dismounted -
came down on my right foot wrong. Damn, clutzy old woman!
I'm sorry.
Nancy
She doesn't have Yrsa's sweet little girl expression, but she's a
delight to be around.
She sounds lovely, Nancy. I'm so happy she's being so good for you.
I normally let Shirley do the first few rides on my young horses - since I
broke my back six years ago, I'm a little wimpy about a few
Today, though was my day. She feels nice and
stable.
Way to go Karen.
The way we started Tosca worked so well that the plan is to do the same
thing with Yrsa. I did all the ground work. Then our fearless grandson
Gabriel did the first few trips under saddle in the round pen. Then I rode
Look at them cute bellies!! Who's the sires?
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Flekka has quite the belly! V
Yeah, come June, she'll be doing lots of sit-ups... :)
Karen Thomas, NC
It's not that the Icelandics can't digest them, it's
that the carbs, sugar,
and protein are too high in alfalfa, which may have
a negative affect on
Icelandics in regard to founder, laminitis, insulin
resistance, cushings.
So it isn't the pellets. It is alfalfa itself. I
don't like
She sounds pretty...like a rose greyplease send photos.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guess why I haven't heard of
NATRC around here.
May be that there may be another organization in your area. Around
here instead of NATRC rides there is the OAATS. They don't have the
obstacle judging, campsite judging and
Wow! Flekka has quite the belly. It's interesting that both mares
have that stretched back end that you start to see them having towards
the end of their terms. I wonder if a platform would help ease that?
I was training Dagur to trailer load during the time that Elska was
pregnant. I would
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it flex from the horse's shoulder moving?
Probably not, but my Boz doesn't sit on my horse's shoulder.
I would NOT buy his saddle. He does not have a demo
program for
On 02/03/2008, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HAHAHAHA oh gosh we are pathetic, looking for any excuse to post
photos of our little sweetie pies!
Yes...I have a ton more pics waiting in the wings. I'm just waiting
for an opportunity to spring them onto the list.
Wanda
On 02/03/2008, Ingvar Ragnarsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A pic of me and Mjölnir on the way home after a
four day trip, when this pic is taken we have
only 15kilometers left in the rain.
Oh...that looks like a cold day to ride.. Lovely pic though. Looks
like a nice solid horse.
by the way
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, I've only seen one Boz saddle. Anna Hopkins, who bought Falki, had one
and brought it here to try on him. She tried it on Falki. I wasn't quite
sure how I felt about it when I saw it on him, but I thought it was
On 02/03/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Janice, I need a caption?
I don't think it needs a caption. Her look is fairly expressive...
Wanda
He is the prettiest boy!! I'm in love with him.
Raven
Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess
Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all
May be that there may be another organization in your area. Around
here instead of NATRC rides there is the OAATS.
I think that the SE part of the US has SEDRA. Don't
know about out west.
Apparently OAATS is only in the Mid West and SEDRA is in the South East. I
can find NATRC in
I have a hrimnir and do ride alot in it.
It has a flexible tree in it so I don´t find it
hard for the horse to wear but it´s definitly not
for short backed horses or saddle backed horses either.
-Hey - I don't know anything about the saddles .. but that sure is a
cute horse!
Penny
So it isn't the pellets. It is alfalfa itself. I
don't like to feed any horse alfalfa. Thanks Judy I
know people who say, but they need protein. Is that true?
Sure, horses need protein, but alfalfa has too much for them.
Judy
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