Re: [lace] Machine or hand sew

2008-06-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Alex's view seems to concur with most of the replies on this subject - I certainly agree. However, I think that this moving towards machine mounting is part of the changing nature of (bobbin) lacemaking. Traditionally, lace made for sale was made by one person (or several in the case of

Re: [lace] vivienne lace fairs

2008-06-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 24 Jun 2008, at 18:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end the chairwomen came and said did you have a good day? We knew we had done the best of any one but it still dismal, so we said no it was a disaster. The lady said, well what do you expect? We are an older group and don't really

Re: [lace] new to me

2008-06-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello ALice I've been making leaves in white cotton - White DMC Dentelle 100 Do you mean DMC Special Dentelles 100, or DMC Fil a Dentelles 100? I've never seen/heard of either. Or do you mean DMC Cordonnet 100 ? Years ago I tried painting fabric dye onto white lace - it worked but left soft

Re: [lace] lace discolouration

2008-06-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Reckits Blue Bags! NO! They bring the laundry up looking whiter but it's impossible to subsequently was hit out and in time it makes the fabric look grey. When I was a child Mum received quite a lot of sheets etc from Grandma and they had all been washed many times and whitened with blue

Re: [lace] mounting lace

2008-07-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue I am now at a critical point in our 40th Wedding anniversary napkins which lots of you gave me ideas for many months ago. The fabric is ready and pressed and the lace made (just two more to darn the ends in) and then I am set to add lace to fabric. This particular set is a 4 sided

Re: [lace] Another OIDFA clip - with ME

2008-07-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I watched the video clip with Leonard on Mac without any problems!! True I'm still in the ark and running MacOSX 10.3 (can't remember which is which with the big cats!) but I'm getting to the point where I need to upgrade, with web access being one of the issues. 10.3 would only recognise the

Re: [lace] Re: thread assistance please

2008-07-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
That means she used Bockens 60/3 for the white and ecru, and Bockens 35/2 (equivalent to 50/3) for the colours. As Tamara said, if a (fairly recent) pattern states linen thread without a brand name the chances are it's Bockens linen. Brenda On 12 Jul 2008, at 06:23, Jenny Brandis wrote:

Re: [lace] La Paleta thread

2008-07-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Vivienne, correct me if I'm wrong, but La Paletta is the new name for what used to marketed as Borayon (32 w/cm). Am I right in thinking that El Molino is the same thread but in industrial size cones? Brenda On 12 Jul 2008, at 14:00, Lynne Cumming wrote: Vivienne has a nice garter pattern

Re: [lace] Spare thread

2008-07-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Provided you wind your bobbins properly so that it doesn't get untwisted or over twisted in the process, ie roll the bobbin into the thread rather than wrapping the thread around the bobbin, the thread will be OK to use for the next project, but only do that if the lengths are sufficiently

Re: [lace] Spare thread

2008-07-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
the bobbins improperly, against the curve of the thread? It's a real pain having to rewind bobbins at frequent intervals, and this happened when I did Torchon and it happens now with the Cantu even more. Sr. Claire On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Provided you

Re: [lace] Winding a skein of lace yarn without tools?

2008-07-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Debora Borrow a pair of hands to hold the skeins whilst you wind. The person holding the skein just needs to allow the yarn to come off one side at a time. My husband learned that skill as a child, and he's not from a crafting family, it's not too difficult. Winding the ball by hand

Re: [lace] Representation of lace (loooong post)

2008-07-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mark I'm wondering if the bobbin was actually a tool for making 'Proddie rugs where scraps of fabric were pushed between the threads of a piece coarse canvas or sacking to make a thick floor covering. Brenda At the home of James Madison, Montpelier, outside of the museum was a

Re: [lace] Representation of lace (loooong post)

2008-07-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just goes to prove that great minds think alike! On 16 Jul 2008, at 22:31, Sue Duckles wrote: And now, I read my mail and find that Brenda has said the same thing!!! Sue On 16 Jul 2008, at 22:27, Sue Duckles wrote: Evening Spiders Mark, I wonder if it's a bradawl for a proddie or clippie

Re: [lace] The strange bobbin

2008-07-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Nalbinding is sort-of related to needle lace and requires a giant sewing needle with the hole for the thread at the blunt end. Info about and pics of nalbinding needles at http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragnvaeig/2516822688/in/pool- nalbindingnutters However, the bobbin which Mark saw has a

Re: [lace] Threads

2008-07-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Sorry Miriam, I've never heard of SoftRise, but if anyone does know please tell me too. Brenda can anyone tell me what kind of thread SoftRise is and who the manufacturer is so I can find a catalog on the internet. What can I substitute for it? Miriam who has returned from OIDFA with a lot

[lace] What are they?

2008-07-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello I have been sent a photo of some lace bobbins and lace rings which came from two elderly Dutch ladies who said they are ivory. I personally don't think they are ivory or lace bobbin but would be interested to know what anyone else thinks they are/were used for. Please have a look at

[lace] Re: [bobbinlace] What are they?

2008-07-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I have asked that question and will let you know when I get a reply. Brenda On 27 Jul 2008, at 21:03, Sister Claire wrote: What is their size, Brenda? I can't tell from the picture. Sr. Claire On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I have

[lace] Re: What are they?

2008-08-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you to Jean, Beth, Janet, Diana, Adele, Bev and Claire for your comments which I have passed on. The general opinion is that the bobbins are stilletos or awls used for broderie anglais or Ayreshire work and that the rings were either curtain rings or button forms. Brenda I have been

Re: [lace] help needed

2008-08-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Jane, The only 28/2 linen (that I've seen) is Juul linen, which measured 2S-19 wraps/cm. Bouc 30 or Fresia 30/2 and Guetermann linen are all very similar, 2S-19 wraps/cm. Knox Falcon 30 and Knox Gimp 20 also measured the same but they were discontinued many years ago. I haven't seen

Re: [lace] help needed

2008-08-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Nel: 50/3 Nm: 30/3 Nel: 66/3 Nm: 40/3 Nel: 80/3 Nm: 50/3 Nel: 100/3 Nm: 60/3 But I'm not sure, if this is the Goldschild linen lace yarn, that you mean. Regards Sandra from Germany (near Munich) --- Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Do, 7.8.2008: Von: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL

Re: [lace] Newsletter

2008-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Diana You are not the only one to have forgotten - I was having a tidy up last week and found the renewal form in a pile of papers - and I then realised that that was why my magazine hadn't arrived! I put a cheque in the post on Thursday, (along with the library books that I was

Re: [lace] Newsletter

2008-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Direct Debit is different to using credit or debit cards - more like a standing order but the amount paid each month/quarter/year is variable. It's appropriate for utility bills etc, and better for subscriptions etc than standing orders which have to be changed each time the subs change

Re: [lace] question re: terminology

2008-08-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
According to the glossary in Mincoff Marriage Fond à la vierge = rose stitch. In the body of the book they say that rose stitch is 'violet stitch' to Germans and 'maiden's grounding' to the French. Pat Earnshaw's Dictionary of Lace says cinq trous, five hole, fond à la vierge, virgin ground

Re: [lace] hitches on bobbins

2008-08-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Wendy There isn't really a right or a wrong direction to wind bobbins, but you do have to make the hitch correspond to the direction the bobbin is wound. You should also make sure that all the bobbins on the pillow are wound the same way or you will get confused when trying to lengthen

[lace] England/France lace trade - was [KFHS] Textiles

2008-08-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello everyone This message, and my reply, has just been posted to the Kent Family History Society discussion group. Does anyone know anything about the 19th century England/France lace trade? Brenda Begin forwarded message: From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20 August

Re: [lace] scarf pattern

2008-08-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yaspe (Jaspe) silk from Bart Francis is in Addendum3 and Edition 4, page 45. I measured it as 20 w/cm, but it's a slub thread so difficult to get an accurate measurement. I have just finished (bank holiday weekend) a torchon edging made with Filato per Tombolo di Cantu 30 with Yaspe 30/2 for

Re: [lace] New website

2008-08-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Alex If Jean has really only been using a computer for a couple of months she's done fantastically well. There's substance to the site, not just a blog, the layout is clean and the hyperlinks all work. Well done. Re the pattern; as I could see no 'download' button and no hand

Re: [lace] Mixing Threads

2008-08-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Wendy I am making an edging, the book says to use DMC Cotton Perle 8 with DMC 80 Cordonnet Special. Well I have the Perle but didn't have any Cordonnet, so I have used Venus 70 instead. My problem is that it is very hard work as they seem to be fighting each other by that I mean that

[lace] Lacemaking threads

2008-09-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you all for the nice comments about my threads book, especially with the recent discussion about mixing threads. For the newcomers to this group I have to say that it would never have got going without all the support from Arachnes from around the world. Like most people I used what I

Re: [lace] My Humming Bird

2008-09-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue Some laces just have to be coloured don't they. Your pic of Megan reminded me of our Sam. Terry finally took him to the vet's for the last time on Friday last week. He was 14 and a bit years old. Brenda On 1 Sep 2008, at 09:23, Sue Duckles wrote: Hi All I've recently

Re: [lace] Any ideas on what this is?

2008-09-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Terry has something a bit like it cluttering up a cupboard - for fishing not lacemaking! It's an old fishing reel attached to the handle part of an old fishing rod; I think it was used for transferring fishing line from one reel to another which is why it has a second clamp for attaching a

Re: [lace] lace design packages for pc

2008-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
As Bev says, 'best' is whatever suits the user's needs, but industry standard (Mac and PC) is Adobe Illustrator. The other specialist lace design program, available for both platforms, is Knipling http://www.knipling.de/knipling/knipling-kn30en.html Photoshop isn't really a drawing program,

Re: [lace] threads for Cantù question

2008-09-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Bev Can you get common or garden cotton sylko 50 (Amman/Coats) - or any other cotton intended for regular machine stitching of seams? Brenda On 19 Sep 2008, at 17:02, bev walker wrote: Hello everyone ...and anyone who does Cantù lace, just a question - what thread(s) do you use? I'm

Re: [lace] threads for Cantù question

2008-09-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
, Cebelia 30, at 20 w. seems slightly too coarse. It does pay to sample :) On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bev Can you get common or garden cotton sylko 50 (Amman/Coats) - or any other cotton intended for regular machine stitching of seams

Re: [lace] Any ideas what this ebay item is?

2008-09-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
To me it looks like a fancy knob for a four-poster bed. I wonder where the other three are! Brenda On 22 Sep 2008, at 09:07, Jean Nathan wrote: Any ideas what this ebay item is? Can't believe it's a lace bobbin. 19TH LARGE LONG SILK IVORI LACE BOBBIN RARE Item numbber: 180291700210

Re: [lace] Alan Brown

2008-09-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm very sad to hear that, my condolences to Sheila and family. Brenda On 24 Sep 2008, at 22:16, Tess Parrish wrote: For those many people who know Sheila Brown, she has just emailed me with the sad news that her husband Alan has just died after quite a siege with cancer. Some of you may

[lace] Fwd: lace exhibition (in South Africa)

2008-10-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
A while ago I helped Janis Savage and her friend Kim Lieberman work out a grid for Kim's lace sculpture project and I have just received this message from Janis. Hello Brenda, The exhibition of lace, for which you helped me work out the grid, is finally on show. You can see the article

Re: [lace] bucks point grid size

2008-10-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Sue If your Bucks grid has a working angle of 58 degrees you can make five corners for a pentagon shape or if it has a working angle of 60 degrees six corners will make a hexagon. Otherwise you have to cut and paste and do all sorts of odd things or design a proper Bucks corner which takes

Re: [lace] bucks point grid size

2008-10-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
isn't it? Or are my early morning thoughts missing something? Sue - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Sue Cc: Sue Babbs ; Arachne Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [lace] bucks point grid size Sue If your Bucks grid has a working angle of 58 degrees

Re: [lace] Hand made lace for sale on ebay

2008-10-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Most of the edgings are Leavers machine, number 2 is Barmen machine, 6, 8 9 are chemical lace and 10 is Swiss embroidery. The smallest doiley is machine tape put together by hand, the circular doiley beside it could be anything, the picture isn't good enough to tell, the oval doiley is

Re: [lace] Small thin bobbins

2008-10-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I have a couple of ivory - yes ivory from legitimate sources - made by Barry Adams which are 9cm long but of average thickness. I used to think that they were short because he'd used old piano keys but he said no, it was because his ex-partner has very small hands and she prefers the smaller

Re: [lace] Emailing: Halloween.jpg

2008-10-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sheila You can't post images to Arachne - you have to upload them to a website somewhere and post the URL link. Brenda On 30 Oct 2008, at 16:01, Alan Sheila Brown wrote: The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Halloween.jpg Note: To protect

Re: [lace] eBay item

2008-11-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's the type of thing the Victorians did (is it right to say Victorians for 19th century Americans?) but I don't think it's BL, looks more like NL to me. Brenda Amazing item on eBay no 120328659264 Antique bobbin lace mourning memorial made of human hair - the hair of Anne Clerke.

Re: [lace] Thread - help, please?

2008-11-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Linda Swedish linen almost certainly means Bockens linen. Bockens 90 would suit torchon drafted on a 2mm grid (4mm between footedge pinholes) Brenda On 15 Nov 2008, at 20:55, Linda Walton wrote: The pattern is from Raie Clare's The Dryad Book of Bobbin Lace, the book from which I

[lace] Advent calendar

2008-11-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello everyone Here in England it's almost December and I've done another Advent calendar. Various thoughts, ideas, musings etc on the Christmas theme. There's a link from my homepage, as in the signature at the bottom. On 24th December there's a little quiz with a small prize, open until

Re: [lace] Advent calendar

2008-12-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The advent calendar lace looks great but why does the page give the impression that it's already the end of December by saying who won the quiz? Sue in EY On 30 Dec 2008, at 23:15, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hello everyone Here in England it's almost December and I've done another Advent

Re: [lace] Card Exchange

2008-12-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
How right you are! I have several lace and other Christmas ornaments from Christmas exchanges and I can't remember who some of them are from. Maybe I should put up a web page with them all an and ask if anyone recognised their work! Brenda On 3 Dec 2008, at 16:17, Janice Blair wrote:

Re: [lace] Card Exchange

2008-12-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've just done that web page http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/arachne/exchanges.htm Brenda On 4 Dec 2008, at 08:52, Brenda Paternoster wrote: How right you are! I have several lace and other Christmas ornaments from Christmas exchanges and I can't remember who some of them are from

Re: [lace] Christmas Greetings

2008-12-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
on Brenda's site to see todays offering (15th). My husband wants the 'original recipe'!! Sue in EY On 15 Dec 2008, at 10:33, Brenda Paternoster wrote: and a reminder that there's a link to the Advent calendar on my homepage - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing

[lace] Christmas Greetings

2008-12-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just over a week to go now! My electronic Christmas card to you all is at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/Christmas/2008/card08.htm and a reminder that there's a link to the Advent calendar on my homepage Merry Christmas Brenda in Allhallows, Kent

Re: [lace] fan patterns

2008-12-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Linda There are a number of big fan patterns around, or you could enlarge a smaller one, though coarse lace doesn't usually look good on a fan. The main thing is that you *MUST* be sure that the lace will fit your sticks before you start making it. It's not only the diameter of the

Re: [lace] Thread help

2008-12-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ann It depends which DMC 50 you mean. DMC Cordonnet 50 is similar thickness to Bouc 50, both are 23 wraps/cm. DMC Coton a Broder is/was finer at 30 wraps/cm and DMC Broder Machine 50 is finer still at 42 wraps/cm. Bev has already listed a number of alternatives to Bouc 70; Bockens

Re: [lace] card exchange

2008-12-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've sent uncompressed images of the lace cards to Janice - they are big files! Also I would like to ad my thanks to Jenny for putting all the exchange lace onto the website, and I do hope your sight problems get sorted properly. Merry Christmas Brenda On 21 Dec 2008, at 23:40, Janice

Re: [lace] subs for Tanne 80?

2008-12-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Marianne I am looking for threads that can be substituted for the Tanne (Cotona) 80. I don't have either of these, and am wondering if any that I have on hand would work, since I want to start the project now, not in 2 or 3 weeks Egyptian Gassed 80/2 or YLI Heirloom Sewing 70/2.

Re: [lace] subs for Tanne 80?

2008-12-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Oops sorry!! I should have said To convert to NeL (English Linen number) *DIVIDE* the CC by 0.36. Thus 80 CC = 29 Nm 222 On 29 Dec 2008, at 09:29, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Can anyone tell me what the Ne or Nm equivalent would be? To convert from CC (English cotton count, also sometimes

Re: [lace] or these instructions?

2008-12-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The lady I watched on a street corner in Belgium was actually making reverse lace! She was making a big show of it and tossing her bobbins around but when I looked closely she was doing: cross, twist, cross, twist, untwist.. Perhaps she learned BL using a few inches of string! Brenda On

Re: [lace] Mixing fibers and gimp question

2009-01-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Donna My first question concerns the thread.  The pattern calls for Egyptian Cotton 80/2.  As I said though, I'm putting this on linen.  Does one usually mix fibers for the lace and fabric?   Most people would find it acceptable to put cotton lace onto linen fabric, but it is a

[lace] Advent calendar quiz - winner

2009-01-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you to everyone who entered the quiz. Just about everyone got questions 1-10 right, but no-one guessed question 11 correctly! It was actually two pairs of socks; one multi colour stripes and the other black with multi coloured spots; knee length for my daughter to wear with her boots.

Re: [lace] Re: Advent calendar quiz - winner

2009-01-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
? Thanks for the fun calendar, Pene Brenda Paternoster wrote: Thank you to everyone who entered the quiz. Just about everyone got questions 1-10 right, but no-one guessed question 11 correctly! It was actually two pairs of socks; one multi colour stripes and the other black with multi coloured spots

Re: [lace] mangling bobbin storage

2009-01-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
And some of those 83 degrees please - we've been down to -7 deg C with fog to go with it - nasty! Definitely staying indoors and making lace weather. Brenda On 10 Jan 2009, at 01:28, Clay Blackwell wrote: I was full of pain and compassion for your discomfort and misfortune with the broken

Re: [lace] Thread Identification

2009-01-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Delores I have a 1950s book The Identification of Textile Fibres which goes into great detail about microscopic and chemical tests to distinguish one fibre from another, but unless you have your own laboratory to hand If you are just trying to decide between linen and cotton the

Re: [lace] Victorian Farm was lace-digest V2008 #276

2009-01-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue Chemical lace is cotton embroidery on acetate fabric, then the whole lot is steeped in acetone or something similar to dissolve away the acetate leaving only the embroidery. Discovered in the 1880s I think so Victorian but slightly late for the 1850s setting of the TV programme.

Re: [lace] lemongrass Obama dress

2009-01-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Guipure, especially when used by a fashion designer, is a rather general term which just means a lace made up of separate elements and 'custom' means it was designed for the client. From the close-up picture in the link that Jane sent http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7840306.stm (image

Re: [lace] lace for a wedding gift

2009-01-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sr Claire If they are not doily people I'd suggest that lace trimmed pillow cases aren't suitable either as they would need more care with laundering than plain ones. Bookmarks only if they are avid readers, otherwise they might just end up lost between the pages somewhere. A framed

Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've done a few jewellery classes and have drawn wire by hand. Even very thin wire very definitely has to be clamped at one end and clasped tightly with pliars at the other end on order to pull it through the holes and it's quite a physical effort. Gravesend Adult Ed Centre has a very well

Re: [lace] eBay 120365023152? French object (tool)

2009-01-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 27 Jan 2009, at 05:25, Avital wrote: So my guess was right (and if I'd been paying attention, I would have seen the French and translated it but I've had a cold for a couple days). It's a tool for drawing wire. Wire is made by hammering a piece of metal into thinner and thinner (and longer)

Re: [lace] Interesting Lace Find!

2009-02-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Mark It looks very much like Barmen machine to me, and yes, narrow tallies like that can be made on those machines. Brenda On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:24, Mark, aka Tatman wrote: Hi all lacing friends, This past weekend Kim and I were shopping for costumes and props for the HS musical(South

Re: [lace] Metallic thread for needlelace

2009-02-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Liz I'm not a needle lacer but I've done enough to know what it's about and I personally wouldn't recommend using any thread which is wrapped, ie the metallic part is wraped around a silk or viscose core as the friction of pulling the thread through the work many times will cause the

[lace] Aussie bush fires - Helen Gannac

2009-02-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm not sure if Helene Gannac is still subscribed to Arachne, or if the email addy I have for her is still current, but I know she lives in Victoria. Helene are you safe? Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to

Re: [lace] Aussie bush fires - Helen Gannac

2009-02-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you to Liz, Laura, Ruth Joanne for letting me know that Helene is visiting her family in France, so well away from the terrible fires Brenda in Allhallows, Kent where we'd be happy to let some of our rain go down under. http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe

[lace] Re: [lace-chat] CROCHET HOOKS

2009-02-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
There used to be TWO sets of sizes for British crochet hooks. The bigger ones for use with knitting yarns were the same as the old British knitting needle sizes, The steel hooks for use with finer crochet cottons had a different set of sizes although the two sets of numbering did overlap a

Re: [lace] threads

2009-02-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes you're right, DMC Cordonnet 100 is very similar in thickness to Broder machine 30 or Bockens 100/2. Finca 40 and DMC Cordonnet/Dentelles 80 are all a little thicker whilst Brok 100 and Finca 80 are both much finer. Brenda On 13 Feb 2009, at 06:30, Lorelei Halley wrote: Hi Can

Re: [lace] thread equivalent?

2009-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I haven't seen Ariane cotton - or any other thread which is 32/2. A Google search for Ariane cotton 32/2' gets: http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg11172.html Brenda On 24 Feb 2009, at 02:35, d2one...@comcast.net wrote: Can someone suggest a thread equivalent for ariane cotton

Re: [lace] Re: Rescued piece of lace/thread

2009-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Like th eothers I think that this is more torchon than Cluny and that it's more likely to be linen than cotton. If just over 3 stitches per inch means that there are just over 3 pinholes per inch - along the footside then it's a spacing of just less than 1/3 inch or 8mm between the pins. The

Re: [lace] Re: Rescued piece of lace/thread

2009-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mark No, I don't think it's handspun, but I do think it's linen. I can see that it's S twist, which is what I'd expect a linen thread to be, along with variations in thickness. The two linens which fit the description are Knox's Floss 20 or Knox's Falcon 25, both of which measured

Re: [lace] How about this for a lace bobbin

2009-02-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hmmm... I agree that the bulbous end is probably a handle. The abrupt end to that 'handle' makes it look as though there should be some sort of cover that slips over the narrower part. Could it be a tool for turning, say, glove fingers? But then why would it have fancy turning? And why do

Re: [lace] measure problems

2009-02-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Francis I too have Googled and found a few useful pages. The best one is: http://www.colourmart.com/eng/knowledge_base/knitting_properties other useful info at: http://www.kilkeelknitwear.com/new_page_19.htm (bottom of page)

Re: [lace] threads

2009-03-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue I haven't seen either of those but the Perivale 130/3 means 130 denier x 3 plies, probably just a little thicker than common or garden Sylko cotton. Re Ackermanns. 50 will be a size, if it's yardage/meterage yds or meters is always written after the number. Silk is usually

Re: [lace] Finca threads

2009-03-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Diana Brok 100/3 is the only other thread anything like Finca 80 Brenda Can anyone suggest some equivalent threads to Finca 80 please. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

Re: [lace] Finca threads

2009-03-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Using Tanne or DMC Broder machine instead of Brok 100/3 or Finca *will* make a difference to the feel of the lace because both Tanne and Broder Machine are 2 ply threads which will make a softer, more draping lace. 3 ply threads are rounder and the lace has more 'body' to it. If all you are

Re: [lace] Laceweight Yarn vs. Thread Thickness

2009-03-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Fancis I have a great love of Sanquhar (and also Selbuvotter, which is less 3 ply specific). it sound very Nordic or Irisch or does it make part of some other ancient knitting slang? it even sounds to me like part a figure from lords of the ring Selbuvotter is the Norwegian two

[lace] Knitting yarn thickness

2009-03-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Following the recent discussions about this I have done some wrappings of the knitting yarns in my stash and put together a web page: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/knittingyarns.htm I'm not planning a huge project like Threads for Lace !! but if anyone can add useful information

Re: [lace] Ideas

2009-03-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Alex As an edging to plain a plain collar On a Christening gown; between yoke skirt either side of a front panel around the hem As a picture frame Around a pin cushion Two lengths side by side as a garter Edging the flap of an envelope style nightdress case Appliqued diagonally across

Re: [lace] Re: lace on hankies

2009-03-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
That's fine for tatting or crochet where you attach the lace as it's made but if you are attaching BL or any other pre-made lace to the edge of a hankie you should always make the fabric fit the lace and not try to make the lace fit the fabric. ie attach lace to oversize fabric and then make

[lace] Lacemaking or Lace making

2009-03-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thank you to everyone who has replied to this thread, far too many to reply to individually, but Noelene the poem is lovely - I've printed it out to stick into the back of my copy. I'm pleased that the large majority of you prefer lacemaking as one word. That's what it has been for the first

Re: [lace] Lace or Lacemaking 3

2009-03-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Jean, I very much agree with you. Actually color/colour was another thing the (electronic) typesetting people queried because both are in Ed5. It's color in 'JP Coats Color Twist' because that's how the label is, it's an old reel of cotton from America, but all other instances of the word in

[lace] YLI Colours

2009-03-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Following the recent discussions about UK and US spelling, does anyone in America have a spool of 'YLI Colours'? Does the label say Colours or Colors? It's an American company but the spool I have, which was purchased in UK at Ally Pally Knitting Stitching, reads 'Colours' and was made in

Re: [lace] YLI Colours

2009-03-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sr Claire and Ilske Thank you for that info - all the more reason to keep to my English spelling! Brenda On 21 Mar 2009, at 10:21, Sister Claire wrote: For a long time it was usual for UK companies to keep UK spelling when they marketed in the US because UK spelling was believed to

Re: [lace] Patterns from Retournac - and a thread question

2009-03-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Beth Using a 3 ply thread instead of a three ply one will make the lace slightly softer and it will drape better, a three ply would be a bit crisper. Depends what you want to use it for. Claire's Lace stocks Fresia and Bockens http://www.claireslace.co.uk/ SMP stock Fresia

Re: [lace] threads

2009-03-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Susan I've been following the linen metallic thread discussions with great interest. What sort of lace would be made with Goldschild linen aka Londonderry or Rainbow Gallery?? I have both in my embroidery stash neither one looks too appetizing to me, i.e thick bumpy. Heavier

Re: [lace] more threads

2009-03-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Susan HV-Garn 40/2 isn't especially fine, 21 wraps/cm, but it does (or is that did!) come in a lot of colours. Assuming Londonderry is Goldschild; 50/3 Nm, which = 80/3 NeL is a bit finer at 24 wraps/cm, though the three plies will make it feel a bit sturdier. I haven't seen Rainbow

Re: [lace] Starting and finishing

2009-04-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Alex, I agree too, it's very unprofessional as a teacher not to offer all of your knowledge. If you have bright students who are interested in the subject there are bound to be times when they ask something you don't know. Providing you either make every effort to find out, or encourage

Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers

2009-04-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue What I have found is that because I have flipped the pattern strip to fit at the corner, I have the working lines going in opposite directions, therefore when I get to the centre side join I found the change. I have ignored those lines and worked them all the same, so guess I need

Re: [lace] A help : what is bertha?

2009-04-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Elizabeth A bertha, or bertha collar, is a wide collar which lies flat over the garment bodice. It's likely to be about 6-8 15-20 cm deep. The opening is usually worn at the back. No collar should be an exact circle around the neckline, it should be slightly oval to fit around

Re: [lace] Survey Invitation

2009-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
a short survey about bobbin lacemaking and the experiences and preferences of Arachne members. It is anonymous and there are no questions about money or other personal details. Brenda Paternoster http://www.questionpro.com/akira/gateway/1205463-0-0 Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http

Re: [lace] news story on Alice in Oregon

2009-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Oh Alice, that's a lovely article, and the reporter certainly made a lot of pretty accurate notes - which is more than most of them do! Brenda On 5 Apr 2009, at 21:06, Alice Howell wrote: My husband just found that the write up on me and my bobbin lace in 2006 is in the online archives at

Re: [lace] Survey

2009-04-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
and the experiences and preferences of Arachne members.  It is anonymous and there are no questions about money or other personal details.  Brenda Paternoster http://www.questionpro.com/akira/gateway/1205463-0-0

Re: [lace] question about threads used in Lace Express

2009-04-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
- From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com To: Marianne Gallant m...@shaw.ca Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [lace] question about threads used in Lace Express Finding coloured linen is difficult! If you can't get Bockens 60/2 which is 26

Re: [lace] Another fence by joep

2009-04-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jo, Ilske It opened with Safari for me - but you do have to have Windows Media Player installed on your computer. I have taken some screen shots of the video playing. They are .pdf files so won't open in a web browser, but I have uploaded them to:

Re: [lace] coloured linen thread

2009-04-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Beth Anyone know how many wraps/cm the 50/3 (Nm 30/3) is? It isn't in edition 4 of threads for lace and I can't connect to the addendum page for some reason! I haven't seen that size, but from the other sizes of Goldschild I'd guess its 19 or 20 w/cm. The addendum pages are all up

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