On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 00:36:39 GMT
"geist1...@juno.com" wrote:
>
> > Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a
> > good link to a bootable source, or send me via github a copy of what
> > You have ?? That would boot knoppix on the 586..
>
> I can, but I won't--to
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:03:49 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:48:52 -0700
> Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a
>
> Can You either send me the Link for knoppix 5.1.x that You used or is a
> good link to a bootable source, or send me via github a copy of what
> You have ?? That would boot knoppix on the 586..
I can, but I won't--tough love, Baby! Just to make sure it was still online I
asked Google for "
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 19:21:06 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:03:26 -0700
> Yes, Linux Mint 5 did pass all of the requirements of Chapter 4, and
> the
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:10:51AM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
[...]
> From: "Paul Rogers"
>
> p.s. Can you be more parsimonious about what you quote as the relevant part
> you're responding to. It's difficult to follow your posts.
>
+1 to this. And Marty, when you include somebody else
> Yes, Linux Mint 5 did pass all of the requirements of Chapter 4, and
> the fact that I like Linux Mint , was what made it so appealing to me,
> for this project..
Why? The only advantage Mint has over any other distro is its desktop. For
building LFS that is irrelevant, even something of a
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 02:32:26 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:50:24 -0700
> Paul and everyone;
> You may be blessed with a memory that would remem
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:50:24 -0700
> Paul and everyone;
> You may be blessed with a memory that would remem
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:50:24 -0700
> Paul and everyone;
> You may be blessed with a memory that would remem
> Paul and everyone;
> You may be blessed with a memory that would remember these things,
Used to! But I'm a bit beyond my Biblically alloted "three score and ten", and
the short-term memory is going. What they say is true! But as I suggested
before, that's why pencils were invented!
I'm no
On 11/10/2019 23:45, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:14:44 -070
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:36:39 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 22:13:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:31:45 -0700
> Paul, Thank You for Your Patience..
>
> I Found the Disk, it took some
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:14:44 -0700
> Paul,
>
> first, well-spotted that ext4 is inappropriate for such ol
> Paul, Thank You for Your Patience..
>
> I Found the Disk, it took some time searching thru all of the CD/DVD's
> that I have it is Knoppix 6.71.. I also found the manual for it..
That MIGHT work for building LFS-6.x, or might not. Run the checks from Ch. 4
of the book.
> But, first, I will
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:14:44 -0700
> Paul,
>
> first, well-spotted that ext4 is inappropriate for such ol
> Paul,
>
> first, well-spotted that ext4 is inappropriate for such old kernels
> - I had completely overlooked that.
>
> But a 2.6 kernel (if that is what that old knoppix version is
> offering) should support ext3. A quick look at wikipedia (as
> always, "it might be accurate, or else someone
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 01:49:03 GMT
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From: Ken Moffat
To: LFS Support Lis
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:14:39 +0100
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 03:26:59PM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote:
> > I am going to put it on my windows, and refor
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 15:26:59 -0700
> I am going to put it on my windows, and reformat it like You said, I
> had
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 03:26:59PM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote:
> > I am going to put it on my windows, and reformat it like You said, I
> > had previously used Ext4 or something like that..
>
> Let me be clear, "something like that" isn't going to cut it. Be precise,
> take notes.
>
Indeed.
>
> I am going to put it on my windows, and reformat it like You said, I
> had previously used Ext4 or something like that..
Let me be clear, "something like that" isn't going to cut it. Be precise, take
notes.
1) format it and scan it on Windows if thats the only way you can,
2) put a CDR dr
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From: "Paul Rogers"
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:42:25 -0700
> Hi All; Paul, Sorry about not being clear.. When Installing Linux Mint,
> it
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From: "Paul Rogers"
To: lfs-supp...@linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:02:31 -0700
Download an image of Knoppix-5.0.2 and burn it to a CD, then boot that to a
shell on that
Download an image of Knoppix-5.0.2 and burn it to a CD, then boot that to a
shell on that K6. Then you'll have a shell to can test that drive with under
Linux.
--
Paul Rogers
paulgrog...@fastmail.fm
Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any addition
> Hi All; Paul, Sorry about not being clear.. When Installing Linux Mint,
> it is in Partition mode, goes on thru to about 73% of that process, and
> (Like the other night) it stayed at 73% for over 2 and a half hours,
Was there a spinner, aka "throbber", on the screen? What else was on the
s
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 00:37:36 GMT
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From: Ken Moffat
To: LFS Support Lis
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 01:24:49 +0100
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:19:07PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
> Hi All; Paul, Sorry about not being clear.. W
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:19:07PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
> Hi All; Paul, Sorry about not being clear.. When Installing Linux Mint, it is
> in Partition mode, goes on thru to about 73% of that process, and (Like the
> other night) it stayed at 73% for over 2 and a half hours, not moving
has the
Partition program and see if that is or has a 'bug' or error in it.. THANK YOU
Marty
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 20
>> In my experience, any time a system misbehaves, that's a bug! You need
>> to chase that sucker down until you know exactly what happened and why!
>> Then fix it and KNOW you fixed it!
>
> How would I go about doing that, what steps do I take ??
That is "debugging", and I don't know if it
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 12:57:43 -0700
> Paul, I got the Eleventh Edition in PDF format, online..
I'm curious, how
> Paul, I got the Eleventh Edition in PDF format, online..
I'm curious, how much coverage does it have on the Pentium-3 Coppermines and
the 810/815 chipsets?
My 10th basically quits with the Pentium-II. I typically skip a generation or
two with what I support, and I did not like the Pentium-4.
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:56:57 -0700
> I have some reading to do, as to what makes up a 586 system..
> Do You have
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:56:57 -0700
> I have some reading to do, as to what makes up a 586 system..
> Do You have
> I have some reading to do, as to what makes up a 586 system..
> Do You have any suggestions ??
A contemporaneous "Upgrading and Repairing PCs" book of the era.I have
Scott Mueller's 10th Edition for the old stuff.
> What did You do to get all of the Experience that You have on these
> old
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 22:36:47 -0700
It's neither necessary nor desired to quote all of the post you're res
It's neither necessary nor desired to quote all of the post you're responding
to.
> then there is ALI M1543C XB5W020D,
That's the South Bridge and integrated Super I/O chip for the Aladdin IV
chipset. It's roughly equivalent to an Intel TX chipset. Since it's not a top
of the line MoBo,
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 00:43:23 +0100
On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 10:52:09PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Hi All;
>
> My Video Card took
On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 10:52:09PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Hi All;
>
> My Video Card took a Dump, and so far, nothing else that I have Works..
>
I'm not surprised - I had a K6-2 when I started playing with LFS,
but the chipset died around 2003. These mobos were sold as a
cheape
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:01:00 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:34:29 GMT
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To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:42:46 -0700
> I Don't know what FBBG is..
"Follow Book, Book Good!"
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:42:46 -0700
> I Don't know what FBBG is..
"Follow Book, Book Good!"
> I Don't know what FBBG is..
"Follow Book, Book Good!"
> I sent a Picture of the motherboard and it looks like it got Rejected a
> being too large of a file..
Not a good idea, not necessary. Mark 1 eyeball is best.
>
> I found out from the Bios that the Motherboard is a Sunlogix..
> The
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 21:28:14 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:36:17 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 11:03:00 -0700
6) Fire-up the 586 and keep a keyboard key pressed during post. If it's an AMI
BI
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:43:11 -0700
1) Pick ANY contemporaneous, i.e. late '90's, Linux distro for a host, and if
6) Fire-up the 586 and keep a keyboard key pressed during post. If it's an AMI
BIOS, there'll be an id string in the lower left corner.
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Rogers' Second Law: "Everything you do communicates."
(I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTA
1) Pick ANY contemporaneous, i.e. late '90's, Linux distro for a host, and if
it passes the checks in Ch4, it'll do! Get on with it.
2) Make script files for building each package from the book. It'll save you
time in the long run in the liklihood you'll have to start over.
3) FBBG! Build th
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From: "Paul Rogers"
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:17:48 -0700
> The other problem with building firefox as 32-bit is that you may
> run out o
> The other problem with building firefox as 32-bit is that you may
> run out of virtual memory when linking it.
Building the contemporaneous version of Firefox will work if he builds a
(B)LFS-6.1 system on the 586. Beyond that he'll fall into "dependendy hell".
> I may have to build it on the
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From: "Paul Rogers"
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 00:07:01 -0700
> Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> I got GCC and (so far) Gli
Hello There
I've been reading this topic for a lot of time and I would like to
give some tips.
Il sab 28 set 2019, 09:07 Paul Rogers ha scritto:
>
> > Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> > I got GCC and (so far) Glibc to compile, I still need to do the check
> > to make sure it buil
> Secondly, for others and not so much for You..
> I got GCC and (so far) Glibc to compile, I still need to do the check
> to make sure it built it correctly..
I'm assuming you're still on your new DELL? I'm afraid that test will lie to
you. Because your CPU has SSSEx instructions, the test wi
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 23:12:08 GMT
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 23:44:51 +0100
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 09:53:09PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:20:27PM
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 09:53:09PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:20:27PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > Do You know How or if there is a way to find what Version of Foxfire I have
> > in like my Linux Mint 17.1 I can then download that , hopefully from
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From: Ken Moffat
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:09:31 +0100
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:20:27PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Do You know How or if there is a way t
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:20:27PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Do You know How or if there is a way to find what Version of Foxfire I have
> in like my Linux Mint 17.1 I can then download that , hopefully from source
> and build it to a earlier version of Linux Mint that will boot on th
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 05:01:16 +0100
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 02:46:34AM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> The Foxfire file is next..
>
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 02:46:34AM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> The Foxfire file is next..
>
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
For building from source, get the source (that might be "fun"
without a working mozconfig for that version). On i686 you could
probably use the
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:32:57 -0700
First some corrections, then suggestions from one who knows.
> Is there a re
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:25:13 GMT
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From: "Paul Rogers"
To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:32:57 -0700
First some corrections, then suggestions from one who knows.
> Is there a re
First some corrections, then suggestions from one who knows.
> Is there a reason to build "Linux From Scratch 7.10 pdf"
Yes, he's going to run it on a 586!
> Version 9.0 stable is out now, also using a PDF is not good, the html
> version is the 1 to use
Not for a 20 year-old CPU, chipset, and
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:37:07 +0100
On 26/09/2019 01:52, geist1...@juno.com wrote:Hi All;Â I have been trying to
Compile 32 bit GCC
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 01:02:18PM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
>
> Hi All;
> Thank You, Ken and Spiky for Your Responses..
> I have tried lately using LFS 8.4 and it produces the same result..
> As for the 7.10 Pdf file, I have my Terminal on one half of the screen and
> the PDF file for let
On 26/09/2019 01:52, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
Hi All;
I have been trying to Compile 32 bit GCC, phase 1, for a few weeks,
and I have looked for answers on the internet, and tried everything
that I could find that might help me..
Some History and background..
My Host is a Dell Dual Core 3.0 G
On 26/09/2019 15:02, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
Hi All;
Thank You, Ken and Spiky for Your Responses..
I have tried lately using LFS 8.4 and it produces the same result..
As for the 7.10 Pdf file, I have my Terminal on one half of the screen
and the PDF file for let's say version 7.10 on the o
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Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 13:02:18 GMT
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To: l
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To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Gcc Compiling Problem in 32 bit
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:51:04 +0100
On 26/09/2019 01:52, geist1...@juno.com wrote:Hi All;Â I have been trying to
Compile 32 bit GCC
On 26/09/2019 01:52, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
Hi All;
I have been trying to Compile 32 bit GCC, phase 1, for a few weeks,
and I have looked for answers on the internet, and tried everything
that I could find that might help me..
Some History and background..
My Host is a Dell Dual Core 3.0 G
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:52:01AM +, geist1...@juno.com wrote:
> Hi All; I have been trying to Compile 32 bit GCC, phase 1, for a few weeks,
> and I have looked for answers on the internet, and tried everything that I
> could find that might help me..Some History and background..My Host is a
Hi All; I have been trying to Compile 32 bit GCC, phase 1, for a few weeks, and
I have looked for answers on the internet, and tried everything that I could
find that might help me..Some History and background..My Host is a Dell Dual
Core 3.0 GHZ machine, I am running Linux Mint 18.3, but, befor
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