Larry wrote:
I really don't see how the cost of memory could ever drop
that low. I think in
5 years you might be looking at $20 instead of $100.
One might just as easily guess that you wouldn't be able to GIVE the stuff
away in that time frame.
simon
Brett Tyre wrote:
Are the Hi-Space 80min discs any good, because I can get
4 for 24.99
They work fine, and are a lovely blue colour, but still a hell of a price.
www.transco.co.uk have them for about $Can 2 each! Their shipping charge is
flat rate, so it's best to buy a big batch
Tuesday's news:
(Kingsley Smith) Sony fights back the tide of budget priced discs with their
JPY2800 ``Flagship'' Dual-layer MD2000 discs (machine translation to
English).
[http://www.minidisc.org/md2000/index.html]
They are 'aving a larf (cockney accent). Talk about form over function. I
David W. Tamkin wrote:
pre-mastered MDs have to be at least as good and possibly
better, since their ATRAC algorithms can be fine-tuned and adapted to
do the
best job possible for the type of music being mastered
This is a nice idea, but is there any evidence it can actually
Luke Rayner wrote:
it) but the cover letter also mentioned that 'pushing
RECORD should place the unit into REC-PAUSE mode'(to unify it with
home decks
admittedly) but this was not mentioned as part of the petition
I never noticed this, and it DOES seem to exceed the remit of
Rat wrote:
... but the true objective audiophile is a rare -- some say mythical
-- creature. :)
my point exactly.
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Guy Churchill wrote:
The ONLY conclusion I can reach is that with my CD player and this
recording equipment, optical and co-ax digital are exactly the same.
Only the truly naive would believe a pile of dumb machinery over the acute
auditory perception of an objective audiophile.
Kheops GlassArt wrote:
I just start some player and recorder for 1 cent on ebay...
and numerous other offers of minidisc stuff. I seem to remember that Kheops
offered us the opportunity to join his (its?) own mailing list a month ago.
At the time I thought this was a good idea, as we
Ralph wrote:
I warned him when he just started that md-l is not an
advertising list.
I warned him too. He replied to me that he was not aiming to make a profit,
just to help other MD enthusiasts. His recent posts bring that into
question.
I have however absolutely no problem
Marc wrote:
I never got a cleaner, how often do you find it necessary to do?
From what I've read, the answer seems to be: NEVER. Just say no.
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Richard Lang wrote:
The burning of the digital information onto the disc is a
physical process,
as is replaying it, and both need a secure isolated transport ...
I dispute this assertion. The transport need only be sufficiently "isolated"
that
Billy Hetherington wrote:
I digitally record between an MZ-R90 and a D-EJ710
discman, and I would like
to do CDTEXT copying, but cannot locate the appropriate
cable
As I understand the instructions, you have to press buttons to copy the
title FOR EACH TRACK. Given that
Rat wrote (in reply to Dave Hooper):
* "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 03 May 2000
I find that my Sharp-831 does not offer particularly
good compression. I can
clearly HEAR the artifacts, especially if the music
contains a quiet passage
that
I hesitate to mention this idea, but I have found a cheap source of spare
batteries for my MZR90, which will probably fit other models and makes too.
Bear in mind that most stages of the process I describe are hazardous.
I was given a faulty Motorola NiMH cellphone battery. I broke it open and
Ivica Petrovic (writing about comparing a CD to the master tape)
... that we preferred a 16-bit\44.1 kHz CD being
played on a Sony SACD
player to the original 24-bit 96 kHz master tape on a
Nagra D tape deck!
When CD's were first introduced, they were slated as being too
Nick,
I've heard things about the quality of interconnects
between amp and
CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality,
and simliar things
about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire
or some crap.
There must be some truth in it,
Shawn wrote:
As you may know from physics class, electronics travel along
the outside
diameter of each of the copper strands. As a result, finer copper
strands means more strands fit into a given wire gauge
diameter. That equals greater electron flow.
The depth to
I wrote:
Douglas Self wrote an article about this in Electronics
World a couple of
years ago.
I have located the article in Electronics World Oct 1997. I can scan it if
anyone emails me privately.
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Peter Brown wrote:
Anyone have opinions on cables between audio components
(RCA),. There seems
to be a huge market for 'premium' cables between audio
components, with
prices running to very high levels. Not being
knowledgeable in this area
I'd be
Jason wrote:
I thought someone could try ripping an audio track from
CD to their hard drive, then record the same track to MD
digitally and then, back to their hard drive digitally.
Then take the track ripped from the MD, invert it, and
then mix it directly over
sherryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I can do is report on the statements of others on
the list. H S
has not gotten many favorable reviews.
Given that MD is a digital format, one would not expect any difference in
performance between disc brands, except faults to to the
John S. McLachlan wrote:
For those who like the flip cases. I don't like them at
all.
Me neither. They look better, and probably keep out the dirt (does this
matter?), but it's harder to get the disc, and when dropped, the hinge
breaks.
simon
las [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sure you can get
Memorex or Hi Space for under $2.00. But that's possibly
more then they are worth.
why are you slagging off HiSpace ? I've got hundreds of 'em, and they work
just fine. I have to admit that I've never heard any defense of
Ralphie explained jitter:
So lets play them back. But with some jitter introduced
of -0.1 +0.1 +0.1 -0.1.
Thus,
This is a useful exposition, but in practice, what you may get is:
1 @ -0.0001
-1 @ 1.0001
1 @ 2.1
-1 @ 2.9
the question is, does this make any
Steven Debski wrote:
I choose to believe my ears - if one sounds better to you
- then use it
If one sounds better, marvel at the suggestibility of the human sensorium.
Bits are not just bits,
For those of you who believe bits are not just bits, try this: wrap your
Matt L wrote:
Just curious. Do people actually get 12hours from their
Ni-MH battery in the
MZ-R90? I haven't timed or anthing but I don't think
it's anywhere close to
12. if i had to guess, I'd say closer to 8.
That corresponds with my impression. It would be a
Jim Coon wrote: (about measuring battery life)
Or listen to it while you are doing the test. when the
music stops, restart it
My next projected free 12 hours will be in May 2020. How about you ?
Or you could put it on continious play if it has
that
Ralph Smeets wrote:
Using your CD/MD player/recorder while the cabin
crew told you not too, is exactly the same. You increase
the risk. If it only kills you, it's fine for me, but chances are that
I'm in
the same plane.
This begs the question, why can't the plane's kit
J. Coon wrote:
Maybe you need to put Locktite on them or some fingernail polish.
What colour would you recommend ? I seem to have run out ...
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Francisco Jose Montilla wrote:
I meant (sorry, english isn't my native language) that
what excite the headphone transducers is a variable (AC) electrical
signal. I don't have the mathematical demonstration handy, but if you
go
in a little deeper, you'll notice that
Dear All,
I have a problem with recordings. If I like something, I tend to listen to
it a lot, until I reach a point where I really don't enjoy it any more. In
this way I have made many classic albums unlistenable. Nowadays, I tend to
ration myself to a maximum of 3 or four plays per recording
wb wrote:
but I have an ATRAC
encoder/decoder running on my PentiumII-450Mhz (with good
old Win95b).
Excellent news! I knew it was only a matter of time before someone posted
this. I think wb is to be congratulated for persuing this problem to a
solution. I'd be interested
Hi list,
I've had my MZR90 for 2 months now. Maybe I'm a bit careless, but I've
already scratched the plastic over the LCD, so I'd recommend that when you
buy a portable, you stick a piece of clear tape over the LCD(s). When this
gets tatty, you can peel it off and replace it, leaving the
PrinceGaz wrote:
A few days ago I thought up a possible reason modern MD kit does
not support an optical digi-out. The latest units
operate on 1.5V yeah?
An LED does, or at least did need a forward voltage of about 2V to
pass any current so they would need a
Matt Rooke advertised:
MD80 as low as 0.85 pence each + VAT ( 1.00 inc VAT)
MD74 as low as 0.75 pence each + VAT ( 0.88 inc VAT)
he omitted to mention the 5.45 + VAT = 6.40 UKP minimum postage charge, and
this price is for 50 off. It's still quite a good deal, certainly
While I'd really like to agree with Rat for a change,
* "Magic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 10 Mar 2000
| As I understand it, portables don't have optical output
because it would encourage piracy.
I figure the real reason is that consumers simply do not
want to
Ralph Smeets wrote:
On the PC, it's not only the ATRAC algorithm that's running, but
also writing a packet of data received by the soundcard to memory, and
writing
this data back to disc.
I just did an experiment. On my 350 Mhz Pentium II, I can write data to my
old hard
Dan Frakes wrote: (about auto-reply-to-MDL)
For the other 1 out of ten messages, it only takes a
second to look at
the "To" field before you press "send."
Yeah, right. That ranks under easy things I will NEVER remember to do. This
is a non-trivial problem. The point is, in
Bill (via Rick) wrote: (about stereo magazines)
and the writers think they have to amuse and entertain you.
Amuse, entertain and INFORM, please.
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You make the assumption that the ATRAC ASIC in your R55
is doing math the
same way your PIII does math, which is not the case. For
its one task, the
R55 is more powerful than your PIII.
Rick was not assuming, he was asserting, that the ASIC contains a DSP
Ralph Smeets wrote:
I thinks the PC has a performance problem due to the
'enormous' overhead of the
OS and the fact that most encoders are programmed in C.
Most of the overhead of an OS is associated with input/output through
multiple layers of device drivers/protocol
Ralph Smeets wrote:
has run for 3h33m CPU time. The total for ALL the other
processes is about 3
minutes.
Hmm,
what are you doing on that machine?
As little as possible ? Reading/writing endless MD emails ?
to. Add to that that most 'deamons'
Keith Wilson wrote:
If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?
In the UK, a price label in a shop window is termed "an offer to treat"
(cheat?), and there is no legal requirement to actually sell at that price.
I imagine on a web site you have even less chance of
A "CaliforniaRod" wrote, a whole lot of dull stuff about HDTV,
presumably not the same CaliforniaRod who wrote:
No one here cares about anything other than the topic at
hand in regards to this list.
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because FFTs are much more
complex than simple
things like addition and multiplication.
I suppose FFT's ARE fairly complex, although they are implemented as a load
of additions and multiplications.
I would estimate the ASIC in any MD
Matt White wrote:
Okay, then here's the technical reason: CDs are sampled at an
insufficient rate to ensure proper reproduction. CDs are
sampled at 44.1kHz, which gives a maximum frequency of 20kHz.
The original argument was about what constitutes "analog warmth". I don't
PrinceGaz wrote:
We have two ears, a left and a right ear, so what advantage can be
gained by using more than left and right speakers / headphones?
I think we can all accept that 2 transducers (ears) are enough to perceive a
3 dimensional sound field, but I'm fairly sure that 2
Edward Nigma (love that name) wrote, re analog warmth:
It is not distorted.
This seems to be a matter of belief. I don't believe it, but then I'm an
Electronic Engineer, and therefore hopelessly blinkered.
Cd's can be gritty and harsh unless
you have good
equiment. and
MDL wrote:
A friend spots Aiwa's photo and Japanese announcement of their
MM-FX500,
the world's first portable MP3 encoder/player. With 32MB of
memory,
it records music (analog input) at 128kbps/44.1khz or voice memo
(builtin mono mic input) at
Matt Wall wrote:
there would be a loss of quality, however in that
"perfect" world where =
it was all digital and no attenuation or any other
interference at all, =
going from your recorder/player to your other identical md =
recorder/player since the ATRAC
James Jarvie wrote:
My question: Would it hurt anything to leave the
optical cable connected permanently between the CD
deck and the MD deck? It would be a real pain to have
to connect them up every time I wanted to record
I'm not sure what you are expecting to hurt, but I
Simon Mackay wrote about MD2-Data:
What Sony needs to do is promote the new MD-Data2 650Mb
disc as a "B drive"
is to market it as a "Zip killer".
I'm a little concerned that we should be discussing "killing" Iomega to help
promote MD. I have no shares in Sony or Iomega, so my
Francisco Jose Montilla wrote:
Well, I guess it's pretty easy to make a zip/jaz/clik killer in
terms of media price and reliability by simply using MD.
It will not only
be far superior to any Iomega device, but even MO devices
(here having
equal reliability),
Timothy P. Stockman wrote:
Maybe they could figure
out a clever way of embedding deck control into the user bits of the
TOSlink. That would certainly make it a *lot* simpler to set up...
I say leave the S/PDIF alone and use a BLUE or IR LED for the control
channel, down the
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Simon Barnes wrote:
Jim wrote
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quoting me:
following
Martin Schiff wrote:
Read my lips. BIFOCALS.
I can read and write the edge labels easily, but not without my glasses
[grin].
I suppose I may have to succumb eventually, but I use contacts, and I
understand bifocal contacts are WAY expensive. Also, I spend a lot of time
on my mountain
Jim I wrote a lot of silly stuff, to which Joanne replied:
Clipping the remote in full view should help attrac the girls too.
Makes them a
little curious, and sometimes the shape can really turn them on, if you
know what I mean.
Yeah right, you must have a really strange idea of what
Dear All,
following our discussions last summer, I was disappointed to find that now I
have a portable minidisc, persons of the gender(s) to which I am attracted
obstinately refuse to throw themselves at me. Perhaps I should hold the MD
in full view and kinda sashay down the street to make my
Prof Jim wrote:
Don't forget to smile a lot and talk freely to people.
If I could do that, I wouldn't need the MD. I think I was hoping to miss out
the argy-bargy and cut to the chase.
i.e. don't get so lost
it the music that you are oblivious to the girls flaunting themselves at
you
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Albert Tanone wrote:
Is it possible to
I'M curious: (read my emails and you know it) do many people actually use
the labels (other than the narrow, edge ones) ? I can't write (or read) that
small.
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thanks, you're most kind
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Andy,
unfortunately, CPC claim this is not a valid part number. Did you make a
typo? I find their online catalogue rather poor for searching :-
simon
Order Code: AV0220
Price (1-9): £3.75
Price (10+): £3.46
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James Jarvie wrote:
Now we all seem to agree on two
additional points (other than wanting the format to
survive and prosper), those being: 1) Sony is an
arrogant and short-sighted company and 2) Sony's
marketing leaves much to be desired.
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Brent Harding wrote:
... but if I
Ralph wrote:
There is only one thing that wories me... Mobile phones and the
upcomming new standard
will allow us to listen to MP3 music using our phone. It will allow us
to connect to a
site and listen to it!
At mobile phone rates ? Listen to music while your brain fries ? Mmm Mmm, I
Andrew wrote:
For instance, a 32 bit signal at 96kHz is more than neccesary to fully
represent an analog audio signal with no loss. So, if we sample 1s of
that audio, we use up 4 bytes * 1 channel * 96000 Hz = 384000 bytes/sec.
Now, if through wavelet analysis, it's found that the
Magic wrote:
Is there really much difference
between optical and co-ax digital connections in home audio use?
Coax is a lot cheaper... other than that... no.
It ain't necessarily so. I can put a case for optical connections being
(potentially) both cheaper and more reliable. The fibre
Andrew wrote:
(hence, "wavelet"), and can reproduce the signal almost *exactly*
by compositing the wavelets at playback. This breaks the bounds of
Nyquist's rule, which states that you must sample at double the highest
frequency you wish to represent... because you're no longer sampling.
Magic wrote:
If I take a sound file which is 44.1kHz in 16bit, the same as CD, and ZIP
it
with WinZIP, it occupies less space. If I did this with all the music from
one of my CDs, I could probably copy those ZIP files onto another CD and
fit
two CDs worth of music onto it (although a
Gary wrote:
... And if anyone
tells you any different (i.e. an "Audiophile" magazine) you can be assured
that they are lying to you in an attempt to become some sort of strange
shaman or wizard of the audio world who can hear what you cannot,
I suspect a lot of them are lying
Jonathan Irwin wrote:
Does anybody know how I send the codes and what the delays should
be? I
can write bytes to the parallel port already, and I can do high
resolution
timing down to about 100 us if necessary.
The IR signal requires you to switch on and off
Steve Reiss wrote:
I was there with my
Sharp MS200 and a 2 clip mics on a "yard" (antiquated
measuring unit) stick to get stereo separation.
As I understand it, stereo separation is normally obtained by using two
directional microphones right next to each other. I
I'm suprised no one has taken CaliforniaRod to task for suggesting that his
recording library would require a laptop with at least 4GB of memory. At
1800 bytes per minidisc, he would need ~2.3 million MD's to store that much
title info, which would occupy a 9 metre (30 foot) cube without cases.
Rick wrote:
The paper makes good reading because it goes into considerable depth
about the nature of generational loss.
I was actually quite suprised when I discovered there WAS generational loss.
My work with wavelet compression had led me to believe that the transform
would have a degree
Jake Hamby wrote:
The problem with comparing different encoders right now is that we don't
yet
have access to any substitute for human listening tests (there's an ITU-R
standard for measurement and Opticom has a program
called Opera which is supposed to measure it, but it's not intended
Magic wrote:
Lifetime guarantees are not worth the paper they are printed on.
Shawn R. Lin wrote:
From auto parts to computer and audio products, I've NEVER had a
problem
getting an item replaced under a lifetime guarantee no matter how old
J.Coon wrote:
I have
I went into Richer Sounds (UK) on Saturday to buy some 80 minute discs (I
haven't seen them for sale anywhere locally yet). The salesman told me: "We
don't sell 'em - too unreliable". When I pressed him for details, he told me
the new discs "take the tracks right to the edge, and most MD
Rick Pali wrote:
The idea comes from the simple fact that there are two types of mail.
List/newsgroups and email. If I wanted to send you something that wasn't
confidential, I'd just respond to your list post.
If I send you something via email, yours will be the only name in the 'To'
Rick wrote:
Well, the feature in question is not quite "continuous record during
disc change", it's more "recording start before TOC read". In other
words, you can't record anything while you're taking the old disc out,
but you can start recording just about as soon as you put the new disc
Dan Frakes wrote:
The accepted netiquette is that private email is private, mailing
list email is public. You don't post contents of a privately sent email
to a mailing list without permission.
Does everyone agree ? Where did this idea come from ? Was I wrong about hard
copy mail too
Takeshi Sasaki wrote:
I made a couple of comparison tables of latest portable recorders
and players here.
http://members.xoom.com/md_data/
Useful comparison. I was particularly interested in "Continuous REC
while Disc Change". I was not aware of any recorders taking the obvious step
of
Magic wrote:
isn't the point that this type of distortion would effect the overall
sound at these frequencies? It
doesn't really make much difference if the end result is a triangle,
square, sine, inverse sine,
or wobbly sine with a pimple on top - the point is that it has changed the
Dear Linux fanciers,
until Linus Torvalds releases an MD of kickin' vibes, or a Linux
version which fits onto an MD, can we drop this thread ?
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Rick quoted:
... The error correction chip typically can correct two bad symbols
per block in the first stage, and two bad symbols per block in the
second stage.
"Some chips can correct four bad symbols in the second stage."
Thanks for the informative post, but I'm dubious
Barry Stern wrote:
I'm wondering what the best way to get a recorded minidisc transferred to
a
regular old cassette would be... Will I be stuck with a mono recording??
You don't say if your MD is a deck or a portable.
deck: connect MD to amplifier, set amplifier to "MD", connect
Simon Mackay wrote:
... optical inputs or outputs is often fitted with removeable
plastic caps
on these Toslink connectors. snip which can easily get lost.
Alternatives: blu-tak or sticky tape
They also present a choking hazard with toddlers if you are in a situation
...
As a
Magic wrote (in reply to me)
simon 1) Wot IS a "high frequency dynamic" ?
Think of the opposite - low frequency dynamics. You know those really low
sub-bass sounds you can't actually hear as much as you feel them. The same
can
happen with high-frequency sound, in that they are
Christopher Spalding wrote:
But what the accuracy of the data comes down to is that whilst the error
correction my cause the errors on the discs, etc to be unnoticable, it is
still ony the machine's best guess as to what should be there, so it isn't
exactly what the original should
Christopher Spalding wrote:
Rupert Neve (if you have to ask who that is, don't bother responding to
this
email), ...
Red rag to a bull, mate!
Who is this guy, and why should we care what he says ?
aside from swearing that the best analogue will always sound better,
feel better an
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peter barlow wrote:
... Can I use
Jim Coon wrote:
Bunk
which bit(s) ?
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Christopher Spalding wrote:
It actually takes a metal class tape to store digital data on, and even on
these you will notice that DAT occasionally will have glitches and it
You can store digital data on any medium you like, for instance, knots in a
string (you might need a lot of
Oscar Fowler wrote:
...which I bought a few months back with the same problem. I hate
to throw
them all away, but they all seem to have intermitent problems.
Ain't you hearda consumer rights? Take them back to the shop and ask for
replacements.
simon
Luca,
you can expect the same sort of level from an MD deck as a CD deck,
ie ~ 1Volt, which should drive your amp without problems. As to why your R55
was distorted (rather than just too low) is a bit of a mystery, and makes me
wonder if it was not connected properly (and you were just
John Chrapowicki wrote:
Note to Shawn: If you want to continue the discussion, I suggest we do
it
via private mail to avoid us getting kicked off the board ;-)
I don't believe you would be kicked off for droning on and on so long as you
stay on topic, so ignore the hecklers and let us
John Chrapowicki wrote:
On last night's 'Taggart', they had a better advert snip
Roll on more shows with MD friendly script writers
This is very sad indeed, John.
Ironically, said MD (an AMF5) ends up being thrown into the Clyde !
...sadly gone downhill since the actor who
Simon Gardner wrote:
As for not getting any help - well, if you actually bothered spellchecking
and writing in sentences then people might understand your posts,
This sounds a bit snobby to me, I found PP's eccentric style entertaining.
all right m8's ? (uggh)
a different simon
I like it too and I'm not weird. (Andy)
And you would know ?
simon (certainly weird, but hates End Search)
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