There is a General Altimax HP tire in 195/65R15 91H for only $66 per tire,
but no test results to see objective data about how it stacks up...
-Max
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On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Friday, December 10,
OK, so to diagnose that condition, once I've got the MC off, I presume there
is an opening to the booster through which I can test for presence of brake
fluid?
-Max
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On Behalf Of Craig
Sent:
Loren,
Can you tell me the exact model/size?
-Max
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On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire decision time: 195/65 or
Maybe what you really want is the parts book for your car(s)? The parts
book has all the exploded diagrams found in the EPC showing all the parts,
but no numbers, just a picture. Very useful at the Dealer parts counter. I
have one for my wagon, will probably try to get one for my E300.
The
John Reames wrote:
Potenzas are okay as long as you don't corner... Or drive when it's wet. Or
damp. Or snow/ice.
There are a LOT of tires bearing the Potenza name. Usually (but not always) the
Pole Position versions are well thought of. This one has very good survey
results (averaage score
So does anyone on this list run 205/60R15 tires on a 124? I'd like to stay
with the factory rating, but I'm considering whatever trade-off may be
required if I can save $100 or so.
I suspect the trade-off will be in fuel consumption (worse), speedometer
accuracy, and handling; I'd like to know
NO, in 'internal leak' is simply fluid internally leaking past the
seals, back into the reservoir.
You will not see visual indications.
If you are interested in saving the last dime; disassemble, clean with
alcohol, hone with proper hone as required, check piston clearance,
reassemble with
Max Dillon wrote:
So does anyone on this list run 205/60R15 tires on a 124? I'd like to stay
with the factory rating, but I'm considering whatever trade-off may be
required if I can save $100 or so.
My 2.3-16v came with proper size worn out Goodyears (205/55vr15 on aftermarket
rims.) Those
Max Dillon wrote:
There is a General Altimax HP tire in 195/65R15 91H for only $66 per tire,
but no test results to see objective data about how it stacks up...
I have those on an Olds Achieva. Rated at 51psi, I keep them at least 40psi.
Hmm, that gives me an idea. I blew them up to 51 last
Not right now. THe car is 1000 miles away. I can tell you I got
them at china club, so they were a discontinued model then.
chinamart and china club only sell tires that are NA or NLA to the
tire store market. The were the last thing I bought at china club.
I just remember they are BS
I've been playing with the review sorting option for the General and the
Potenza in 195/65R15, sorting on Mercedes owners, and find that many of the
complainers have symptoms consistent with either no rotations, poor
alignment, worn out suspension, or under inflation. The rest of the MB
owners
I put 205s I got for the 126 on the front of the 300TD. THey did not
rub, but they don't handl right and they don't look right. They
won't help anything (except your wallet if you already own 205s) I
do not recommend 205s on a 124.
So does anyone on this list run 205/60R15 tires on a
I have the manual manual in pdf form lying around somewhere. It covers
the manual trans in pretty much every mb made in the mid 70s to mid80s
(no 201 or 124 stuff). If you are interested I can email you a url. I
think its about ye (100mb) big.
-Rolf
On 12/10/2010 10:23 PM, Mountain Man
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html
1992 Mercedes-Benz 300D Black - $2995
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They don't rust away that fast, do they? ;
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From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] sightings
They sell hundreds, if not thousands of new
Rich,
To refresh your memory, I am offering a very choice incentive package
to whoever finds me a cheap, preferably beat up 1985 300TD wagon.
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html
1992
why dont you speak of 140's? Is it because they are not cheap class?
On 12/10/2010 11:07 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
Speaking of 140s, and I never do, I saw three of them on the move just
yesterday. One of them was in show condition which was probably the only one
with working AC.
RLE
Hee hee, maybe Mercedes is subsidizing the winter salt trucks, as part of
their planned redundancy programme. ;-)
Ed
300E
On 11 December 2010 09:53, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
They don't rust away that fast, do they? ;
Wilton
- Original Message - From: E M
Dealer trade-ins here that are too old or worn out even for the
second-tier used dealers but worth more than scrap are often sent down
to Mexico, I've heard.
I don't know that an 8 year old MB would get that treatment, I guess it
depends what shape it's in.
Allan
E M pokieba...@gmail.com
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:40:14 -0500 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
I have the manual manual in pdf form lying around somewhere. It covers
the manual trans in pretty much every mb made in the mid 70s to mid80s
(no 201 or 124 stuff). If you are interested I can email you a url. I
think its
Off lease which is about 4 years or so, will be on the used section of the
dealers lot for a bit. But 7-8 years old, they are gone. Used independent
dealers will keep older cars, but still, there are very few of them for the
numbers of new cars being sold and used here. Also, our emission
Yup.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 12/11/2010 7:37 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
OK, so to diagnose that condition, once I've got the MC off, I presume there
is an opening to the booster through which I can test for presence of brake
fluid?
-Max
Peter,
No sign of loss of brake fluid from the reservoir,
Where to send CD?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
On 12/10/2010 11:34 PM, Fmiser wrote:
Fred Moir wrote:
Philip, et al.
I have the olde EPC installed on an old PC, loaded from a CD
and a PIA to setup and get running.
It has been superseded by the online EPC, which is kept
I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are expanding coverage by
dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car regularly
serviced at a MB stealership.
If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't
buy your car from a stealership you will never be covered.
That is very disappointing. Some of the Asian car makers are offering
superior roadside assistance compared to MB, and it also goes with the car
regardless of owner.
-Max
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On Behalf Of
Dieselvolk,
This a.m. I dove into rebuilding the rear suspension on my '87 wagon.
Started by pulling the spring link on the right side, and replaced the inner
bushing using a piece of 3/8 acme threaded rod. Took about 2.5 hours to do
that.
Incidentally, the sleeve for the inner bushing is
Thanks Fred.
-Max
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On Behalf Of Fred Moir
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Symptom - sinking brake pedal
Yup.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On
Rolf wrote:
I have the manual manual in pdf form lying around somewhere. It covers the
manual trans in pretty much every mb made in the mid 70s to mid80s (no 201
or 124 stuff). If you are interested I can email you a url. I think its
about ye (100mb) big.
Yes - please post the url - I want to
OK, looks like I've got to decide between these two 195/65R15 91H tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($194 for 4 tires - special price
for December)
-or-
General Altimax HP ($264 for 4 tires).
Methinks I'll go with the Bridgestone...
-Max
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From:
I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent $100.00
within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an authorized
dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I don't see this as a
major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once a
Yeah, I got it, too; never used 'em, anyway; thank God for AAA. 'Course, I
wanta know how the Hell does that expand service? What a bunch of double
talk BS!
Wilton
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010
Max Dillon wrote:
OK, looks like I've got to decide between these two 195/65R15 91H tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($194 for 4 tires - special price
for December)
-or-
General Altimax HP ($264 for 4 tires).
Methinks I'll go with the Bridgestone...
I live where it snows, and
When you pay $50-100,000+ for a new Benz, I don't think there are any free
items. You have paid for all the so called included services many many
times over up front, whether you ever use them or not.
Ed
300E
On 11 December 2010 14:35, roger...@comcast.net wrote:
I received the same letter,
Absolutely, it's well paid for, not FREE. In the same manner that I've have
never gotten any FREE medical care, etc., as part of my military retirement
compensation. It's all damned well paid for.
Wilton
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From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion
A little rowdy, a columnist from The Hartford morning newspaper.Funny
stuff...
I almost had to stay home this morning, I was laughing so hard.
http://www.courant.com/features/hc-shea-boom-cialis-1208-20101208,0,1916547.column
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When you get older,
Max Dillon wrote:
So does anyone on this list run 205/60R15 tires on a 124? I'd
like to stay with the factory rating, but I'm considering
whatever trade-off may be required if I can save $100 or so.
I suspect the trade-off will be in fuel consumption (worse),
speedometer accuracy, and
Well, TireRack couldn't deliver the tires before early January, and I need
them earlier. TireBuyer has them in stock for a higher price ($78) and no
rebate, but free shipping, so I'll pay about $75 more but get a tire that
looks decent. Better, TireBuyer will deliver them to my favorite
I agree. Its not the services received are free its that they are
earned. The purchase of a Benz provides the *expectation* that road side
service be included, just like providing for the all of our freedoms through
military service provides medical care as compensation for said service.
Thank
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
I put 205s I got for the 126 on the front of the 300TD. THey did not rub,
but they don't handl right and they don't look right. They won't help
anything (except your wallet if you already own 205s) I do not recommend
Rolf wrote:
I have the manual manual in pdf form lying around somewhere.
It covers the manual trans in pretty much every mb made in the
mid 70s to mid80s (no 201 or 124 stuff). If you are interested
I can email you a url. I think its about ye (100mb) big.
Oh. I'd like a copy of that.
--R wrote:
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html
I like that.
Are you in the neighborhood?
And... what is with the white one for twice as much?
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I want a 124 diesel wagon I've decided. Help.
Bob R
On Dec 11, 2010 1:08 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
--R wrote:
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html
I like that.
Are you in the neighborhood?
And... what is with the white one for twice as much?
mao
If you live where it snows, buy blizzaks unless you want to spend
$100+ each for scando-Noko tires.
Max Dillon wrote:
OK, looks like I've got to decide between these two 195/65R15 91H tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($194 for 4 tires - special price
for December)
-or-
Where do you see those for $194, I see them at $264 on tirerack
On 12/11/2010 1:33 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
OK, looks like I've got to decide between these two 195/65R15 91H tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($194 for 4 tires - special price
for December)
-or-
General Altimax HP
What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling?
That car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this
one, who knows...
I am sorta in the neighborhood, this CL car is probably 45 min away (but
just about everything is 45 min away from where I live,
I have never heard of tire buyer before, but I checked the Altimax
HP, which I run on my 140SD and they are the same price as
tirerack, but they have free shipping, so I would be saving about
$70. Do they always have free shipping? Anybody used them before?
On 12/11/2010 2:34 PM, Max Dillon
I doubt if there are too many people with older cars that take advantage
of this service -- what, like maybe every few years if a battery dies or
a tire goes flat, if they even remember to call MB.
Some bean counter probably figures they can save a $mil or so a year by
pissing off the few MB
Kaleb has one. They ARE nice!
I want a 124 diesel wagon I've decided. Help.
Bob R
On Dec 11, 2010 1:08 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
--R wrote:
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2107037482.html
I like that.
Are you in the neighborhood?
And... what is with the
Evidently the stealerships in your neck of the woods are better than
the ones around here. 30 years ago, even 20 years ago, there were
many good long time dealerships with knowledgeable staff around here.
Then the MadAve geniuses got ahold of MBNA, changed it to MBUSA,
kicked out all the good
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Where do you see those for $194, I see them at $264 on tirerack
There's a rebate on a set of four, in the form of a $70 Amex gift card.
Mitch.
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enough to be able to check it out?
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wanted a 300D?
What white one? You talking about the one the
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Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from
private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery and
a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you other
fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you
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why dont you speak of 140's? Is it because they are not cheap
class?..
Because the 140 may have been the biggest disaster for Mercedes in their
history. The warranty costs were monumental and it cost MB so much that the
manager of the 140 program was demoted to run a truck plant in
...Last time I had a dealer work on my car was a long-long time ago...
And yet you are bitching to one and all that a company that you have no
relationship with isn't willing to spend money on you.
This does not compute, somehow.
RLE
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On Dec 11, 2010 7:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Last time I had a dealer work on my car was a long-long time ago...
And yet you are bitching to one and all that a company that you have no
Yeah, my Indie was warned by the Indianapolis dealer not to get one.
People were dumping them the day the extended warrenty was up, since
they had had upwards of $12,000 worth of warrenty work already --
relay packs, engine computers, fried wiring, climate control
computers, and the
Dual pane windows? In a CAR? Someone was smokng some good peyote...
Walt
On Dec 11, 2010 7:31 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yeah, my Indie was warned by the Indianapolis dealer not to get one.
People were dumping them the day the extended warrenty was up, since
they had had
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Lexus has them too, in some models. Not just argon filled, but they
are colored as well, so you have to get one that matches the rest...
They also have smart window motors, although I don't know if they
are as much of a hassle as MBs or not.
Can you spell S..T...U..P...I...D?
The
Apparently if you've been an MBCA member for at least twelve months prior to
the initiation of this new policy which begins in January 2011 then you are
still covered by roadside assistance. You have to currently be a member in good
standing.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:18 PM,
Is that the senses when your finger is on the glass and doesn't pinch it,
but when it goes defective the window refuses to move at all system?
If so, whatever happened to a simple current sense that shuts down the
motor, or a slip clutch?
Walt
On Dec 11, 2010 7:48 PM, Peter Frederick
--R wrote:
What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That
car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who
knows...
What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know?
The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money.
I guess you should ask Citroen, who has used a slip clutch on safety
windows since the early 50's.
But you know, if there is a digital computer involved, it just HAS to
be better, eh?
Peter
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Duh, I got it! A slip clutch won't roll the window down an inch when it hits
your finger, but you can program the computerized one to retract 1.118
inches, because that is OPTIMAL distance. Just ask Mort, he drew it all up
on the back of that napkin at the bar...
Walt, who is having fun watching
Walt Zarnoch wrote:
Dual pane windows? In a CAR? Someone was smokng some good peyote...
And that's why 1/3 of all used W140s are advertised with 'bulletproof glass'.
Oh really? Does it weigh 8,000lb, or only 6,000lb? If it only weighs 6k, it's
not armored, it's just a pig.
Mitch.
$264 - $70 December special rebate. Look closely - I missed it at first
myself.
-Max
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 4:44 PM
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Will let you know how it goes...
-Max
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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire decision time: 195/65 or
Well, I guess that's helpful to keep folks in MBCA.
-Max
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On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 7:55 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in
part going towards covering your free roadside assist? Nothing in life is
free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving
you something, you're paying for it one way or another.
Hey, I'm not
I ran across a similar scam for a 98 911 Turbo - a $40k-$50K car that he was
willing to sell for $12K. He said the car was in Italy and if I would commit
to buy and put a small deposit up ($1500 IIRC) he ship it to the airport
nearest me. I asked for details and it seemed the car was at a
Roger wrote It does not seem to be an unreasonable requirement from
MBNA
Ditto - I always considered it a bit over the top for them to provide
roadside help for any MB no matter how old.
LarryT
91 300D
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Sent: Saturday, December 11,
I have had several 140's without any problems at all.
On 12/11/2010 5:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
why dont you speak of 140's? Is it because they are not cheap
class?..
Because the 140 may have been the biggest disaster for Mercedes in their
history. The warranty costs were monumental
Yep, they are great. They never fog up, they make for a super
quiet interior, the 140 is really a great car.
On 12/11/2010 6:34 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
Dual pane windows? In a CAR? Someone was smokng some good peyote...
Walt
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95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL,
--R wrote:
What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That
car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who
knows...
What is the price of the 20-minute-away one that you know?
The seller has another white 1992 300D for twice the money.
It is a shame they have so many design faults, as they are still one of my
favourite large Mercedes sedans. I liked the styling, and I found the few
I've been in to have very comfortable seats. Much more comfortable than
what replaced it, and even more comfortable than the current S, which I
The only design faults were in the early ones that had mostly to
do with the engine wiring harness and some suspension stuff which
would have since been corrected. They are not really any more
difficult to work on than say a 124.
On 12/11/2010 8:56 PM, E M wrote:
It is a shame they have so
I'm not discounting the benefits of double-pane glass, but in vehicle
applications it's not quite practical once problems set in.
Like everything in life, when it works it's beautiful.
That and these cars, when new, wouldn't normally in the price range of most
people who get them used, and the
What problems would that be? I have never seen or heard of 140's
with problems with the double pane windows. I have personally
never had a car with problems with that, and I have not talked to
anybody that has but I suppose somehow somewhere there might be
somebody with a problem.
On
Absolutely.
Wilton
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't
in
part
There is no problem with the window in use. It's when it gets broken
and sets you back $1200 that it gets to be a pain.
W140's had electronics failure rates about the same as W124
evaporator failure rates -- that is to say, we are at 50%
replacements on the ones in the family, and one
I was making a blanket statment, as most of my experience with auto glass
that's in need of repair have been ouch, that hurt the wallet I
assumed that there would be a heafty price premium to fix/repair if anything
ever went wrong. In my eyes, there's only a few benefits for a lot more
Be careful: some of those Michelin specials have REALLY narrow purchase
windows, with things like must be purchased from warehouse stock on hand etc.
D.
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Replacing all the wiring harnesses on my 94 S350 was $400. If you are used to
pricing you typically see on parts for a 240 (the last 240 I bought cost me
$157 for the whole running car), then yes they are expensive but then it's my
favorite money pit. The S600s are to be avoided at any cost. A
The only design faults were in the early ones that had mostly to do
with the engine wiring harness and some suspension stuff which
would have since been corrected. They are not really any more difficult
to work on than say a 124...
Your selective memory seems to have overlooked the
BT Wrong! [I figgered woger would try to inflate himself
with this topic.]
I have a long history and relationship with MB in the USA, whether
MBNA or MBUSA. Each stealership is an independent business. I have
no relationship with most of them. There is one dealer in CA and one
That was the engine harness. The whole body harness is suspect, too,
and the engine harness doesn't include the computer connections
Peter
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:37:26 -0800 Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
Mileage is impacted primarily by the overall diameter of the
wheel-and-tire combination. Do the math on the two sizes:
205 mm * 60% = 123 mm sidewall height
195 mm * 65% = 126.75 mm sidewall height
205 mm
On 11 December 2010 19:47, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
The MB Roadside Assistance was a Class program from a company that used to
be very classy. Now it is just a gimmick to try to drag
unwilling/unsuspecting owners into a stealership to be ripped off..
That's kind of the
h you said the reason. simple. Gadget geeks won't use
simple when complex and unreliable is available.
Witness: 1. the crypsler ACC used by MB
2. in the USA, only ACC2 was available when the rest of the
world had the simple, reliable heat and AC controls available
3. all the
Amen! The same thing happens with software. Programmers find some
new trick, so they have to work it into the software. the software
get bloated, the new trick doesn't follow the rules, so then
unexpected hangs and crashes occur. Feature creep is dangerous in
software, in projects, in
Read your mail from a coupla days ago about whoever was looking for a
new diesel.
--R
On 12/11/2010 6:42 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
--R wrote:
What white one? You talking about the one the guy I know is selling? That
car is probably as close to perfect as one can be for its age, this one, who
What was the saying about the old Porsche 959. The Porsche engineers see no
reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number of
parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job. hee hee.
Ed
300E
On 11 December 2010 23:56, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB.
Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a
stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB.
You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in
part going towards covering your free
OK guys, since we're on the topic of roadside assist, thought I'd throw out
what it currently is, as I've only owned a Benz for 3-4 years. I don't know
what other long term owners got from the service. So here it is
I live in Canada, so this may differ somewhat from what most of you get in
...What was the saying about the old Porsche 959. The Porsche engineers
see no
reason to make it simple, when they can make it with 3 times the number of
parts, and cost 10 times more, and do the same job...
Well but, that was 1987 and what other cars could do 200mph then? Never
certified
Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they
didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable
front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the
engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to
Few if anything could do it back then, and I'm sure even today, 25 years on,
few do it with as much stability and safety.
When Porsche put out their C4 Carrera, it too was much more complicated than
other offerings. They simplified it quite a bit when they offered it in
their 993 based cars, as
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