Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

2017-11-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest

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2017-11-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
er 07, 2017 2:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a referral to cardiologist. They put me on a monito

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2017-11-11 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
ercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:56 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin >>> Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc >>> >>> So you rem

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2017-11-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > Greg > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:56 PM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin > > Sub

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2017-11-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
uch > awake during the procedure. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. > Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:56 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Kaleb C. S

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2017-11-11 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a referral to cardiologist. They put me on a monitor for a couple of days that I wore

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2017-11-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
: Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:56 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc > > So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt > like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a > referral to cardiologi

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2017-11-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How old are you? I had my stents put in 8 years ago, just before my 33rd birthday... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc So you remember the story a

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2017-11-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote: > If exercise was a prescription drug with a patent, it would probably be > quashed... That sounds like hemp a century ago. Someone said it was 30-percent of the economy. A substantial player in our economy for paper, fabric, etc. Then maryjane was the name applied to hemp and it b

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2017-11-08 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Ignore it and it will go away? not likely, more like ignore it and have a big infarction instead. Far better to get the catherization done, you'll get one anyway when you have that heart attack and have a lot more heart muscle damage. Peter ___ http://www.ok

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2017-11-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > I should just ignore it and it will go away. Perhaps, you haven't tried. Low Carb is a good start. Hopefully you do not believe baloney from anyone. And how do we know your physician is not speaking baloney? Your physician is like you - someone pays him, i.e. BigPharma, etc. Your p

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2017-11-08 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Old Age is Not for Sissies. A Witty Look at Ageing. Author: Lois Kaufman Obtainable at Amazon OK Don wrote: > Sorry to hear about the "troubles". To quote somebody: > "Old age is not for the faint of heart." - Welcome to my world . . . > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mer

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2017-11-08 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
"Yeah, you got a bad heart, and you're ugly too" --Rodney On 11/8/17 9:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb sez: ‎I should just ignore it and it will go away. ~~ The thing to do if you are concerned about having the cath is to get a se

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2017-11-08 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> Kaleb sez: > > >‎I should just ignore it and it will go away. ~~ The thing to do if you are concerned about having the cath is to get a second opinion. Most insurance companies will pay for a second opinion since they are far cheaper than a surg

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2017-11-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On November 7, 2017 at 5:56 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > I am way too young to be having these sorts of problems. My nephew-in-law's father died when he was 42. Stepdad went about five years ago, and now his mom's dead too. Nephew in law's around 50-51 now and he's had

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2017-11-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb sez: >‎I should just ignore it and it will go away. Uh, no. However, with diet and exercise a lot of ailments can be controlled and/or reversed. If exercise was a prescription drug with a patent, it would probably be quashed because it is too beneficial, or it would be the most expensive

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2017-11-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Blood pressure meds. Beta blocker and they interact with a lot of things.  ‎https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-11207/metoprolol-tartrate-oral/details Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or c

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2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I should just ignore it and it will go away. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > -D wrote: >> Glad they found something - at least now you know it wasn’t in your head. > > You would be disappointed if they did not find something. They know

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2017-11-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Curly sez: >‎Statins are a breach of the Hippocratic >oath. I am pretty sure I posted this once before, but the gentleman that discovered statins, took them for a while then stopped. When asked why he replied "the indigo dyer wears white pants". Meaning he knows good and well there are not hea

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2017-11-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-D wrote: > Glad they found something - at least now you know it wasn’t in your head. You would be disappointed if they did not find something. They know that. Stay away and things will be fine. Don't trust doctors. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea

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2017-11-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Statins are a breach of the Hippocratic oath. They can be harmful and offer no real benefit. The alleged "benefits" were derived by manipulation. Studies NOT paid for by the drug pushers show NO benefit, but lots of potential bad side effects. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

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2017-11-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sorry to hear about the "troubles". To quote somebody: "Old age is not for the faint of heart." - Welcome to my world . . . On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I only ended up with 1 prescription. It’s metoprolol tartrate, whatever >

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2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I only ended up with 1 prescription. It’s metoprolol tartrate, whatever that is. Also 81mg aspirin once a day. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yup, you'll be on a beta blocker and something like Lisinopril --- reduces > blood pre

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2017-11-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
We'll all be pulling for you! Great motivation to make a positive change in your lifestyle. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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2017-11-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Yup, you'll be on a beta blocker and something like Lisinopril --- reduces blood pressure, helps circulation by blocking angiotension and dilating arteries a bit. Same stuff I'm on, standard treatment. If you've been on statins, likely you an expect some blockage. Good news is that you will f

Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It’s thru the groin they said. I have had a very poor diet all my life. I never really paid attention to what I was eating. I have changed that recently. I have been on statins for a few years but the prescription ran out about 6 months ago and the dr would not refill it until I came back in. Th

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2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well hopefully I don’t have one between now and next week. I have some prescriptions to pick up, something about beta blockers or blood pressure, but they didn’t really say to limit activity until then or anything. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >

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2017-11-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Hopefully they will do the brachial one (through the wrist) rather than up the femoral artery. Not fun, but at least you just have a small puncture wound in your wrist and a pressure bandage for a few hours, then a 5 lb lifting limit for a week instead of a clip and stitches. I don't remember

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2017-11-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Well, you probably just avoided a heart attack. SO that is good news. Make sure you go to a major heart center and that the surgeon has a stellar record. Around here, the Mercy hospitals are the best. (Still catholic AFIK) I was lucky to be hauled to Mercy in DM. I figured a nearly steady

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2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I didn’t really know what it was. Or if it was anything at all. I am not sure I like the idea of a procedure that has a certain risk of death. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Glad they found something - at least now you know it wasn’t in

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2017-11-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Glad they found something - at least now you know it wasn’t in your head. -D > On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt > like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That

[MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

2017-11-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a referral to cardiologist. They put me on a monitor for a couple of days that I wore around, which found noting. Of course all of this led me to cu

Re: [MBZ] Carbs

2017-10-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Me too. I had no idea there was something called "healthy lard". Sort of like "healthy scrapple" I suppose... On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I use mostly maple syrup for sweetener, my wife buys honey every time she > sees it so we h

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2017-10-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I use mostly maple syrup for sweetener, my wife buys honey every time she sees it so we have tons. Its local honey thats supposed to help with allergies. You gotta be careful with grocery store honey as its often from global sources and adulterated with who knows what. I take the Louis Black at

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2017-10-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Ah, yes, sugars -- if you want something sweet buy local honey, you will get the local pollen and airborne crap in it which supposedly helpful for allergies and such.  Careful with the stuff at the store, a lot of that is chinee honee, no bueno.  A little local honey goes a long way too. And a

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2017-10-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We make bread with 1/3 whole grain spelt (and older wheat variety), 1/3 rye, and 1/3 buckwheat (high in protean), with a bit of flax seed meal and gluten thrown in. It's really good! I can also share recipes if anyone is interested. On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < m

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2017-10-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
More on carbs: Try to include more rye vs. wheat. My favorite is a rye or pumpernickel bread made with 50% whole wheat and 50% rye (plus a bit of gluten added to make up for the lack in the rye). When I make this bread I do it from freshly milled flour I do at home. I have a good bread machine

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2017-10-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Sehr Gut!+1 fmiser via Mercedes October 14, 2017 at 8:01 PM Short summary, based on the research and experience of me and my family. It does not fit what the medical industry currently touts. First - eliminate processed sugars. Cane sugar, corn syrup, high fru

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2017-10-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Short summary, based on the research and experience of me and my family. It does not fit what the medical industry currently touts. First - eliminate processed sugars. Cane sugar, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, etc. will all mess up the bodies ability to take care of itself, warp mineral b

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2017-10-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Can't have tater salad, too many carbs. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > When I was on the road, whenever I was near a grocery store, I picked up a > lot of meals at the meat or deli counter. Sliced roast beef, or turkey, etc > with

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2017-10-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
When I was on the road, whenever I was near a grocery store, I picked up a lot of meals at the meat or deli counter. Sliced roast beef, or turkey, etc with some tater salad makes a good meal or two. Curt Raymond via Mercedes October 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM Diet anyt

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2017-10-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Diet anything can't be good for you. Ice tea in large quantities is why you've lost weight, it's just water you've let go as tea is a dieuretic. Drink water, it's all you really need. Pack your own lunch, fast food is loaded with salt and expensive. Ranch is just sugar... Curt Sent from Yahoo M

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2017-10-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Rick Knoble via Mercedes October 13, 2017 at 7:57 PM Think bacon butter... whole milk... full fat Greek yogurt... And don't use vegetable oils, or that artificial crap. Rick If if won't spoil, it is NOT food! Locally grown fats are the best. Find

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2017-10-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes I have been sticking with unsweetened tea but am considering trying diet soda. I have heard mixed reviews on it. l Diet pop will kill you. STAY AWAY! As bad as the sugar is, it won't harm you as much as the chemical pop. _

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2017-10-14 Thread Peter Hertzing via Mercedes
Start drinking water... I gave up all soda that didn't have Rum in it and it really helped my digestive track, and makes cut my heart palpitations in half. I carry the 64? Ounce yeti thermos with ice and water. Gotten used to it. Still drink some unsweetened tea when I need something else.

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2017-10-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's how many carbs their ranch has in it. Way too many but I still stayed under 30 carbs yesterday. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 2:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb asks: > >> ‎What sort of salad dressing comes on >that? > > Newman's Own Southwest. It's got

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2017-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb asks: >‎What sort of salad dressing comes on >that? Newman's Own Southwest. It's got a few carbs in it, but you don't have to use the whole thing. You can probably get whatever else they have though. https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/newmans-own-creamy-southwest-dressing.html Ri

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2017-10-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:57:49 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > And don't use vegetable oils, Even olive oil? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What sort of salad dressing comes on that? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb sez: > >> ‎My problem is I'm on the go all day so I >have to find things at fast food >> places to >eat. > > McD's Southwest salad with grilled chicken i

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2017-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb sez: >‎My problem is I'm on the go all day so I >have to find things at fast food >places to >eat. McD's Southwest salad with grilled chicken is good. Skip the corn chips. For bread for sandwiches for lunch I use Ezekiel ‎Flax seed bread. 10 grams of net carbs per slice. You have to incr

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2017-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Great on the tea! You will find time to pack lunch, if the other option is to do without . . . On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I brew loose leaf tea at home. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:51 PM, OK Don via Mer

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I brew loose leaf tea at home. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:51 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've seen studies that say you will gain weight drinking diet sodas. If > nothing else, they have zero redeeming nutritional value. Stick to tea - > that you brewed yourself. Pur

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I am going to try packing lunch but never seem to have time. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:49 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > There ARE other options to fast food (not really food). You can pack a > lunch, for instance. When we are traveling, we bring a bag of trail mix for

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2017-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I've seen studies that say you will gain weight drinking diet sodas. If nothing else, they have zero redeeming nutritional value. Stick to tea - that you brewed yourself. Pure tea from leaves, not the floor sweepings that they put in those bags. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin v

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2017-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There ARE other options to fast food (not really food). You can pack a lunch, for instance. When we are traveling, we bring a bag of trail mix for each of us. Homemade trail mix, not the sugar, salt, oil laden stuff from the store. Home made whole grain bread (ALL whole grain, no white flour) still

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
We have a treadmill here at the house. I did run on it a few years ago and worked myself up to about 30 minutes. Right now I bet I could not make it 5 minutes at a fairly brisk pace at an incline. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes. >

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I hear you will fell like crap for a few days but after it passes you will have more energy. My problem is I'm on the go all day so I have to find things at fast food places to eat. Yesterday it was Arby's classic with no but and just a touch of Arby's sauce with a side salad. That was 11

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2017-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes. https://spinning.com It’s a stationary bicycle with a heavy flywheel on which you control the resistance. It’s done in groups with an instructor or team leader who gives you direction on what you should be doing, for instance, standing, climbing a hill, etc., usua

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2017-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb sez: >‎Well this is day 2 of no sugar and very low >carbs. I had 27 net carbs >yesterday and >so far today have had about 20 of my 69 I >have allowed myself. Wait until the withdrawals hit... Sugar should be classified as a drug. Rick ___ http://www.ok

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No, it's when he spins his crack pipe on the table while posting cars to BAT. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:18:54 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> That’s why I liked spinning. Hard core cardio in under 45 mi

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well this is day 2 of no sugar and very low carbs. I had 27 net carbs yesterday and so far today have had about 20 of my 69 I have allowed myself. Down 5 lbs from yesterday. Of course I know there is daily fluctuations in weight anyway but maybe we are headed in the right direction. From what I

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2017-10-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:18:54 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > That’s why I liked spinning. Hard core cardio in under 45 minutes and > easy on the knees. Is spinning riding a stationary bicycle? Craig > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Dan sez

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2017-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s why I liked spinning. Hard core cardio in under 45 minutes and easy on the knees. -D > On Oct 13, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan sez: > >> ‎I have knee issues that make it really >hard on me when running, so I walk >> or >bike. If you do the gym thing t

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2017-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan sez: >‎I have knee issues that make it really >hard on me when running, so I walk or >>bike. If you do the gym thing the elliptical >is good, too. I just can’t take >the shock of >running on the knees, it makes them hurt >like heck and swell up >slightly. Stationary bike or a Nordic Track.

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2017-10-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Peter wrote: > Exercise and restrict carbs should work pretty well. It sounds like you know foods as medicine - thanks for writing this information for us. It seems that Peter is our new Dr. Booth? tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives h

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2017-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Stereotypical pre heart attack symptoms, on activity I'd get chest pain radiating down my left arm. Fortunately when I stopped the activity the pain went away. Buncha tests didn't show anything, finally a cardiac cat scan showed 95% blockage in two arteries feeding my heart. Just before the sten

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2017-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had never run because I "couldn't" now I want to run a primitive biathlon so I need to run. Turns out it's easier than I'd thought although still pretty hard. It took a couple weeks before I started to see any improvement. Now OK Don humbles me, his walks are the same speed as my runs... Curt

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2017-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If you really need an oral antibacterial melaleuca oil works great. Doesn't taste terrific but the effect passes quickly. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Speaking of which, back in the early '70's when I was a "professional"

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2017-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So at age 33 what caused you to come to the conclusion you needed stints? I assume you were having symptoms of some sort that lead to a dr visit. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Back when I had my stents put in (at age 33) my cholesterol was around 17

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2017-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have knee issues that make it really hard on me when running, so I walk or bike. If you do the gym thing the elliptical is good, too. I just can’t take the shock of running on the knees, it makes them hurt like heck and swell up slightly. Of course, with weight loss the knees and other part

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2017-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Back when I had my stents put in (at age 33) my cholesterol was around 170. They put me on a statin which chewed up my back, it felt like somebody had put a handful of sand in each joint. My cholesterol was 140 when I quit taking it. It took 6 months or more for my back to feel normal. I told my

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2017-10-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:29:04 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Good thing you're in an arid climate. If there was open water around > you I suspect you would feel obligated to start swimming upstream once > a year Touché! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.

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2017-10-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Binary switch or logic switch depending on how you look at it. The studies "for" statins have funding from statin producers. Those "against" statins are not funded by the the statin producers. go figger... Mountain Man via Mercedes October 12, 2017 at 3:29 PM

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2017-10-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1 Brian Peskin: +1 more Dr. Joel Wallach, M.D., DVM +1 more and lotsa others Rick Knoble via Mercedes October 12, 2017 at 1:34 PM ‎ If the gentleman that discovered statins won't take them because he believes they are poison, why would I? Rick ___

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2017-10-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Read the research NOT paid for by the drug companies. Death rate WITH statins is higher than without. Drug funded research says otherwise Docs are trained by the drug pushers. Statins will not help at best, and at worst will kill ya! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

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2017-10-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Speaking of which, back in the early '70's when I was a "professional" mechanic (a shop paid me to work on other people's cars), I developed a wart on the second knuckle of my middle finger (I forget which hand) that would bleed like a stuck hog when ever I even got close to a radiator. My Dad boug

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2017-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Exercise and restrict carbs should work pretty well. Watch the fat calorie intake, you don't want to over-do the calories -- eat lots of veggies and salads with non sweetened dressings. Sugar, it turns out, causes all sorts of problems, including coronary artery disease, high cholesterol, and

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2017-10-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You sunk my battleship! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 12, 2017 5:51:45 PM EDT, rkmercedes via Mercedes wrote: > Z8  > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

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2017-10-12 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Medico wanted me to give them a try based on some numbers. That was almost two decades ago. I have been symptom free ever since. Oh, I never took the things. maybe I drop dead one day clay Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly pro

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2017-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think portion control is one of the major concerns when one is looking to lose weight/eat healthy. A while ago I did the “cut everything in half and only eat half” approach and it definitely had a positive effect on me. My typical daily routine is a tall glass of “crappaccino” (Lots of milk

Re: [MBZ] Carbs

2017-10-12 Thread rkmercedes via Mercedes
 Z8  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Date: 10/12/17 3:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Cc: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbs I try to keep carbs down to a reasonable

Re: [MBZ] Carbs

2017-10-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Good thing you're in an arid climate. If there was open water around you I suspect you would feel obligated to start swimming upstream once a year -D > On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Eat anything you want, any time you want.. as long as you walk 5 miles to >

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2017-10-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Mao is correct. I did my due diligence and was not pleased with what I found. Doctor concurred, but played it as a "which is worse" kind of scenario and gladly accepted my willingness to take a healthier approach. Unfortunately, I haven't kept up with spinning due to things beyond my control, b

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2017-10-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I was up to 200 when we bought our current house. Wife and I replaced the floor and painted the whole thing (inside) before we moved in. I lost 20 lbs. just from that increased activity. I've since reduced the portions that I eat, and have reduced the red meat (though not eliminated at all) and inc

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2017-10-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Eat anything you want, any time you want.. as long as you walk 5 miles to eat it, and 5 miles back home.. You'll be good. As a alternate to statins, try 100% Salmon Oil, Don't buy the fake stuff.. any decent health food place will have the "good stuff". 2,000 units per day should get you sorted o

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2017-10-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Max, how does the app track your weight? On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I thought you lost more weight than that, must have shed the fat (inches) > and packed on the muscle... > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >

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2017-10-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I thought you lost more weight than that, must have shed the fat (inches) and packed on the muscle... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 12, 2017 3:40:58 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >Exactly a year ago for various reasons I decided to make some life >ch

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2017-10-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
If you're not diabetic I wouldn't focus on carbs, focus on all calories but be sure to keep sufficient protein in your diet. My Fitness Buddy app is what I used, lost about 20 lbs over a year. I also added some easy exercise (walking) which I do every day and twice on Sunday. Starting and kee

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2017-10-12 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-D wrote: > Internist tried putting me on statins about ten years ago. I told her "No". This "Dan" said "No" to statins ten years ago also. Some people do well with statins but there is much out there that speaks against statins, also. tin.man ___ http://www.o

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2017-10-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hmm. I sleep lousy. Maybe I should have my thyroid checked. My mom had thyroid issues. On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Exactly a year ago for various reasons I decided to make some life changes > which included drinking much less

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2017-10-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Exactly a year ago for various reasons I decided to make some life changes which included drinking much less alcohol (no problem with it, I just enjoy my home brews, decent wines, and a nightcap of interesting grain-based products!) and eating much less meat and a lot more veg, fish mostly when

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2017-10-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
n via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:17 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] Carbs So I have realized I am probably at least 40lbs overweight. Sunday night I thought I might be having a heart attack so went to the er where everything came back good. My

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2017-10-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Oh, and it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change. You go back to eating crap, and drinking gallons of pop you'll be overweight again in no time.  ‎http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3289664 http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3405842 http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepo

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2017-10-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Internist tried putting me on statins about ten years ago. I told her "No". I started working out by spinning (hard core stationary bike) four times a week. My numbers dropped significantly, and I didn't change a thing when it came to diet. Your work situation doesn't lend itself to regularly

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2017-10-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb asks: >So anyway I have decided to cut out all >sugar and most cards, trying to stay >>around 20 carbs a day but at least under >50. Maybe a sort of extreme keto or >>whatever they call it diet. Anybody btdt? Yep. Lost 45 pounds.  Ask Alex G. on Banned, or FB.  You gotta exercise too. Ri

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2017-10-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Andy sez> >My overweight friend says statins are >safe and should be taken daily by all >men over 50 regardless of their blood >chemistry. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/cholesterol-drug-scientist-receives-2008-09-12/ A 2006 profile of Endo noted that he briefly took Mevacor, a

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2017-10-12 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Seconded. Statins do help. Check with your sleep specialist; perhaps your CPAP needs to be turned down a notch? -MMM- On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My overweight friend says statins are safe and should be taken daily by all >

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2017-10-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My overweight friend says statins are safe and should be taken daily by all men over 50 regardless of their blood chemistry. He's been taking them for years and should be dead by now due to his overweight problem and other health issues, but isn't, so I credit the statins for this. On Thu, Oct 12,

[MBZ] Carbs

2017-10-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I have realized I am probably at least 40lbs overweight. Sunday night I thought I might be having a heart attack so went to the er where everything came back good. My blood pressure was way too high at about 180/80 when I came in but was down to about 150/80. They did not seem concerned. So t