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2017-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Did the same thing with my triple slider doors that open on to our lanai. A couple of the bearings in the door rollers were failing and they made some awful noise. Since replacement involves removing the doors to get at the rollers, I had to wait until the weather was milder to do it. Now they

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2017-02-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It's those little things in life that make us happy TRIM YOUR POSTS! --FT On 2/14/17 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My thoughts exactly. I recently fixed my sliding closet doors, which had been dragging noisily in the track. Now they glide effortlessly. I'm in heaven severa

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2017-02-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
luid again. > >> In googling around, I found this link which seemed to have interesting > >> background info: > >> http://starwiki.info/722.3 > >> Scott > >> > >> -Original Message- > >>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes > >>> Sent:

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2017-02-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
cott >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes >>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 10:07 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida >>> >>>

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2017-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Suspension, steering?? RB On 12/02/2017 10:18 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Not sure how lucky yet. Drove it home, the 1-2 shift is a lurch, 2-3 a bit less violent. All gears work well enough. Odo is non-op., speedo is good, as is tach. Seats work for the most part, windows not that much.

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2017-02-12 Thread clay via Mercedes
Discussion List Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > You are a bastard > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 10, 2017, at 7:43 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> I just picked up a ton of stuff from the free car fellow. I p

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2017-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's it Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2017, at 5:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s the Superior transmission spring kit: > > http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=S68165D > > -D > > >> On Feb 12, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Kaleb

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2017-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s the Superior transmission spring kit: http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=S68165D -D > On Feb 12, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is actually a 3rd party kit which I have use a few times that has a

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2017-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
gt;>> -Original Message- >>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes >>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 10:07 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida >>> >>> Her

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2017-02-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ssion List Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida Here's a link to the job, complete with pictures: http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2008/02/k-1-spring-kit-replacement- and .html -D Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2017, at 9:41 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wro

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2017-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I found the bulletin: AF27.51-U-6100A Here’s a link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/20zbyc14fsjl1ph/K1%20and%20K2.pdf?dl=0 -D On Feb 11, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > Based on my findings, the 126 270 04 35 and 05 35 are for the 722.4xx K2 > accumulator, not the 722.3xx.

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2017-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Based on my findings, the 126 270 04 35 and 05 35 are for the 722.4xx K2 accumulator, not the 722.3xx. Everything I’ve seen suggests that the 126 270 44 77 spring kit fits both the K1 and K2 accumulators in the 722.3xx transmission. This was stated in the WIS back in the late 1990s. Dan > O

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2017-02-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
f.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > > Here's a link to the job, complete with pictures: > > http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2008/02/k-1-spring-kit-replacement- > and > .html > > -D > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 10, 2017,

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2017-02-11 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
I would say you are one lucky bas**rd! Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" Date: 2017-02-10 8:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florid

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2017-02-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
At 250k, your SDL is just a pup; well, maybe an adolescent. I figger at 200k it is just broken in. (pup) My first SDL was acquired at 175k and although it was rusty when I bought it, I drove it another 240k miles. The whole time it was "slow to go into reverse" The other 3 have been simila

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2017-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The k1/k2 spring upgrade will not affect reverse. When reverse takes a while to engage it is simply worn out. On the older transmissions there was a bolt that could be tightened for the slow reverse issue. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes > wrote: >

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2017-02-11 Thread Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes
This is a very interesting thread as I have an '87 300SDL with about 250K miles.  The tranny does seem sluggish getting into 4th., and also slow going into reverse.  I have read about the reverse syndrome and have been very leery about it failing me for some time now.  However, with this new inf

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2017-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You are a bastard Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2017, at 7:43 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I just picked up a ton of stuff from the free car fellow. I pick that up > Saturday morning. > > He had the ATSG 722.3.4 service manual. I am going to read all about them so > I can be edjumu

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2017-02-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
I just picked up a ton of stuff from the free car fellow. I pick that up Saturday morning. He had the ATSG 722.3.4 service manual. I am going to read all about them so I can be edjumukated though not likely to actually do work. The new to me SD has a good trans, as does the spare engine and

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2017-02-10 Thread MG via Mercedes
powered car can't go 200,000 miles, then have top end work and go another 200,000 miles. You've been lied to your whole life about how often you need to replace your car... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Thursday, February

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2017-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Ok that's what I was thinking. It has been so long since I have messed with the 722.3 transmission I had forgot. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > It will reduce flaring of the 3-4 upshift, at least it did on my car. > > -D > > Sent from my

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2017-02-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
It will reduce flaring of the 3-4 upshift, at least it did on my car. -D Sent from my iPad > On Feb 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > IIRC there was issues with flaring between 3-4 that was fixed with spring > upgrade, you you are saying this will soften 3-4?

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2017-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
IIRC there was issues with flaring between 3-4 that was fixed with spring upgrade, you you are saying this will soften 3-4? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Actually, the accumulator spring in K1 will fix your 2-3 "stacked" shift, and > repl

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2017-02-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Here's a link to the job, complete with pictures: http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2008/02/k-1-spring-kit-replacement-and.html -D Sent from my iPad > On Feb 10, 2017, at 9:41 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks. I have a technical book on these transmissions in the shop, so m

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2017-02-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Thanks. I have a technical book on these transmissions in the shop, so maybe that will help locate these guides after I pull the pan. Gerry ~ Dan wrote: > Actually, the accumulator spring in K1 will fix your 2-3 "stacked" shift, and > replacing

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2017-02-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Actually, the accumulator spring in K1 will fix your 2-3 "stacked" shift, and replacing the accumulator spring in K2 will soften and slightly delay your 3-4 shift. You can do one or both, it's not mandatory to do both. For sure do K1, as it will make a noticeable difference in the 2-3 upshift.

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2017-02-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
no reason why it wouldn't go another 260k or more without major work. > >>>> I'm > >>>> not about to tie up coin in a spare engine or transmission when there's > >>>> no > >>>> need. > >>>> > >>>> -D

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2017-02-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Bingo! I've been waiting 17 years for a definitive answer to that question! Thanks you, Dan! Thank you! Part number and instructions would be greatly appreciated! Gerry ~~ Dan Penoff wrote: > Gerry, > It’s not a B2 piston you need, it’s th

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I agree that is not a delay Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:23 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > That's not a delay. all of my cars have done that into drive all the time. > The transmission in my TD has taken 3 seconds into reverse since it's been in > there. Could be a band adjustme

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2017-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Here ya go! Wave when ya go by! https://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/5954070453.html Cheep vagon. Or better, stop and have some crawdaddies, jambalaya, or shrimpies. Kyle Arola via Mercedes February 9, 2017 at 1:31 PM Manfred, that is what I was thinking as we

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
That's not a delay. all of my cars have done that into drive all the time. The transmission in my TD has taken 3 seconds into reverse since it's been in there. Could be a band adjustment would take care of it. Anyone know where and how tight to adjust it? I don't have a manual for the transmiss

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
nz.com> wrote: Theres no reason a gas powered car can't go 200,000 miles, then have top end work and go another 200,000 miles. You've been lied to your whole life about how often you need to replace your car... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List

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2017-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
As did Larry. (but a different kind of fool) Randy Bennell via Mercedes February 9, 2017 at 4:50 PM And avoid fools who may wreck it for you. Our poor Wilton suffered that abuse. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search lis

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2017-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
alership... Scammers everywhere, a good indy is worth his weight. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Randy Bennell Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida On 09/02/2017 11:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Merced

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, if you’re working on a 722.3xx transmission. -D > On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So you need 2 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Depends on the transmission model but in the case

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So you need 2 Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Depends on the transmission model but in the case of a 722.3xx it replaces > both the K1 and K2 accumulators. > > -D > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> w

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Depends on the transmission model but in the case of a 722.3xx it replaces both the K1 and K2 accumulators. -D > On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I used to have the part number but if you can get it that would be great. > > > On 2/9/2017 5:08 PM, Dan

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
How many do you need? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > 126 270 44 77, “Spring Guide”. Looks like it lists for around $6.75. > > -D > > > >> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I used to have th

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
126 270 44 77, “Spring Guide”. Looks like it lists for around $6.75. -D > On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I used to have the part number but if you can get it that would be great. > > > On 2/9/2017 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Gerry, >

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Give me a second and I’l get it out of the file. -D > On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I used to have the part number but if you can get it that would be great. > > > On 2/9/2017 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Gerry, >> >> It’s not a B2 pi

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I used to have the part number but if you can get it that would be great. On 2/9/2017 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Gerry, It’s not a B2 piston you need, it’s the K1 and K2 valves. They’re $5/each from a dealer and take all of maybe 3-4 minutes to replace when you’ve got the pan

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Gerry, It’s not a B2 piston you need, it’s the K1 and K2 valves. They’re $5/each from a dealer and take all of maybe 3-4 minutes to replace when you’ve got the pan off the transmission. I just did mine on the 300D, and it shifts like a totally different car. The 2-3 isn’t “stacked” like it u

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2017-02-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
>> > >> -D > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> Theres no reason a gas powered car can't go 200,000 miles, then have to

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2017-02-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 09/02/2017 11:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Kyle sez: True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If you do proper maintenance and repa

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Maybe a one Mississippi, a little more possibly. Not like 405 seconds. PO said it had done it as long as he owned the car, and it’s done it for me as well, so I’m not worried about it. Heck, even if I have to put a Sun Valley rebuild in it it’s well worth it when the time comes. -D > On Feb

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
place your car... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an additional 600,000 miles in addition to the

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
often you need to replace your >> car... >> -Curt >> >> From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Kyle Arola >> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida >> >> I

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2017-02-09 Thread clay via Mercedes
s > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kyle Arola > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > > I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an > additional 600,000 miles in addition to the already almost 300k

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2017-02-09 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
"if I have good post one then the cost is not too bad." Should have read, if I have good pistons Kyle On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Kyle Arola wrote: > Manfred, that is what I was thinking as well. I did some research on the > rebuild and if I have good post one then the cost is not too

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2017-02-09 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Manfred, that is what I was thinking as well. I did some research on the rebuild and if I have good post one then the cost is not too bad. I will think on it and keep my eyes peeled for a spare wagon. If it is a steal it would be silly to pass it up. Kyle Kyle On Feb 9, 2017 2:25 PM, "MG via M

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an additional 600,000 miles in addition to the already almost 300k on it now! Hahaha! That would be amazing to be sure! I know there

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
If I was you I would look for another engine for the TD even if it doesn't run. Get it real cheap and have it rebuilt. That's about $7000 or so but then you have an engine that will "run a million miles". ;-) Or at least you will know how a new engine runs and be the only one who has worked on

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2017-02-09 Thread MG via Mercedes
#x27;ve been lied to your whole life about how often you need to replace your car... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida I guess I am just not used to

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
t;>> >>> -D >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Theres no reason a gas powered car can't go 200,000 miles, then have top >>

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2017-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
out how often you need to replace your >> car... >> -Curt >> >> From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Kyle Arola >> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida >> &

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
go another 200,000 miles. >> > You've been lied to your whole life about how often you need to replace >> > your car... >> > -Curt >> > >> > From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Cc: Kyle Arola

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2017-02-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
can't go 200,000 miles, then have top > end work and go another 200,000 miles. > > You've been lied to your whole life about how often you need to replace > your car... > > -Curt > > > > From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes > > To: Mercedes Discussion Lis

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2017-02-09 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kyle Arola > Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > > I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an > additional 600,000 miles in addition to

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2017-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ola Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an additional 600,000 miles in addition to the already almost 300k on it now! Hahaha! That would be amazing to be sure! I know there are OTR tru

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2017-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
absolutely required to keep it road worthy... -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida Kyle sez: >True, I am counting on the last and last part. I al

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2017-02-09 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
I guess I am just not used to thinking of a drive train lasting an additional 600,000 miles in addition to the already almost 300k on it now! Hahaha! That would be amazing to be sure! I know there are OTR truckers that get 1 million miles on their rigs, and I am guessing their diesels are similar e

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2017-02-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kyle sez: >True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared >so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and >get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If you do proper maintenance and repairs, the wagon should last your lifetime. The period for

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2017-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and get another 500k miles

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2017-02-09 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
True, I am counting on the last and last part. I also want to be prepared so that in another 100k miles I have the engine/transmission to replace and get another 500k miles out of the wagon. If I love that long... Kyle On Feb 8, 2017 7:25 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > The good news i

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2017-02-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The good news is... it is a very well made car that can last and last, if you take good care of it. I'm in a similar boat with my '95 E300, which has its own collection of unique single-model-year parts (exhaust, IP, monovalve, ...). - Max Charleston SC ___

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2017-02-08 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yes the wagon rear doors are different. Probably best to get the whole wagon just in case. May need rear hatch, rear side windows, various trim strips, sliding roof, rear seats etc. Manfred Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Kyle, the SD is the "S-Class" and as you've learned there are a lot o

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2017-02-08 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Holy poop!!! Mind blown... The motor is a Cali... I did do the egr and can delete already but lots of air cleaner difference. I am guessing that a donor 85 wagon is in my future. Hahaha! Kyle On Feb 8, 2017 6:43 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: Kyle, the SD is the "S-Class" and as you'

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2017-02-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Kyle, the SD is the "S-Class" and as you've learned there are a lot of differences. Your '85 version TD is unique in several ways, let's see how many I can get right. (1) the head for the SLS pump, any other 123 wagon engine will work. (2) Tail lights, rear bumper lights (3) Tailgate hardware a

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2017-02-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:49:45 -0500 Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: > Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. Well, your TD is a W123. The SD is a W126, a totally different car. > Thanks Manfred for the dose of knowledge! I really did figure they were > mostly the same. I can see I was a bit off..

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2017-02-08 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
27;t they? > -Curt > > From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kyle Arola > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > > Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. I did not call her today as the

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2017-02-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Valves are like every second oil change aren't they? -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. I did not call her

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2017-02-08 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Oh man!!! That is a ton of difference. I did not call her today as the head issue was enough. I am going to finish the front brakes, time the ip and set the valves, run the diesel purge through and then rebuild and pressure check the injectors. That should take care of me for another 50,000 miles o

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2017-02-08 Thread MG via Mercedes
You know I was thinking of doing that but I don't know if it bolts up the same way or not. Manfred Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: No, before you do that you could buy a dual pump as used on the 87 300TD. Surely somebody makes an aftermarket electric hydraulic pump that could use the prope

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2017-02-08 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yes the head is the one major difference. You may have to change the tailhousing and speedo gear drive on the transmission. The 84 SD that I took the transmission out of had an electronic speedo so in order to use it in my TD I had to change the tailhousing and the speedo drive gear from the or

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2017-02-08 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
After some additional readings, it is in fact way to problematic to swap out these motors without the head exchange. Adding the electric pump, or converting to the newer dual pump (which I have not seen a picture of actually working) is also not a good option as I want to keep the SLS functioning.

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2017-02-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I forget why exactly, but I did try. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why? > > Sez who? > > I have not tried, but i'm thinking it CAN be done. It mounts the same as > the single PS pump. Belts and pulleys could be problematic. > > And

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2017-02-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Why? Sez who? I have not tried, but i'm thinking it CAN be done. It mounts the same as the single PS pump. Belts and pulleys could be problematic. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 7, 2017 at 9:20 PM The dual pump canNOT be retrofitted to the W123. __

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2017-02-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The dual pump canNOT be retrofitted to the W123. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah. I am never going to disable the SLS, or ruin the car. Just want to be > prepared for the future And a spare setup seems like a smart move. > > Kyle

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Yeah. I am never going to disable the SLS, or ruin the car. Just want to be prepared for the future And a spare setup seems like a smart move. Kyle On Feb 7, 2017 7:33 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > No, before you do that you could buy a dual pump as used on the 87 300TD. > > Sur

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2017-02-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No, before you do that you could buy a dual pump as used on the 87 300TD. Surely somebody makes an aftermarket electric hydraulic pump that could use the proper fluid. Ruining the car is NOT an option Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 7, 2017 at 2:54 PM Th

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2017-02-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
like that one in NOLA. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 7, 2017 at 2:45 PM Motor won't work - you need the head with the built in SLS pump. Find a rusty 85 wagon if you must get another vehicle.. ___ http://www.okiebenz

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2017-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That is correct. In a pinch if you need an engine for a wagon and do not have a wagon engine available, you just swap the heads over from your old wagon motor. On 2/7/2017 5:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: Thanks Manfred! So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Thanks Dan! I will give her a call tomorrow and have a conversation about the car.. Kyle On Feb 7, 2017 7:00 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > That is correct. The drive for the SLS pump is unique to the version of > the OM617 used in the wagon. Otherwise, the engine is the same as all

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2017-02-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That is correct. The drive for the SLS pump is unique to the version of the OM617 used in the wagon. Otherwise, the engine is the same as all others in the W123 and W126 chassis models. -D > On Feb 7, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks Manfred! > > So, if I und

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Thanks Manfred! So, if I understand correctly, the difference between the om617 sedan and wagon motors are the heads? And that is because of the SLS pump, correct? That is the only "major" difference? My google search on the subject was sorely lacking in good results. >From my reading the transmi

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2017-02-07 Thread MG via Mercedes
No I don't know anything about that one. It looks kind of like one that was for sale in the Ocala area about 2 years or so ago. I think that one was on a farm or something. Manfred Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: Here is a local machine! I may check it out for a spare motor and transmission...

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
the head from the old car would be okay it'd still > be a valid idea. > -Curt > > From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kyle Arola > Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida > > Oh

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2017-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
7, 2017 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida Oh no!!!  I get that they were a little different, I just didn't know how much  Bummer. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Motor won't work - you need t

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2017-02-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The engine will fit but you will need to disconnect the SLS and install conventional rear shocks, which would be a shame. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh no!!! I get that they were a little different, I just didn't know how > much

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Oh no!!! I get that they were a little different, I just didn't know how much Bummer. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Motor won't work - you need the head with the built in SLS pump. Find a > rusty 85 wagon if you must get an

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2017-02-07 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Pretty sure they are just excited that their clock still works... As they all should hahaha! On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is the analog clock actually rare? I've never had an MB that didn't have > one... > -Curt > > From: K

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2017-02-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Motor won't work - you need the head with the built in SLS pump. Find a rusty 85 wagon if you must get another vehicle.. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Here is a local machine! I may check it out for a spare motor and > transmission...

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2017-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is the analog clock actually rare? I've never had an MB that didn't have one... -Curt From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kyle Arola Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 3:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Craigslist NC Florida Here is a local machine!  I may check it out