At 03:52 PM 5/2/00 -0400, Tim Gardner wrote:
>I am guessing that the "headless" version is what I do this when I am
>doing a shockwave piece which calls cgi scripts. I create an html version
>which provides a browser interface, albeit more boring, to the same basic
>code so that I can more ea
d therefore, the behavior
should not change from CORE::print anyway.
So in summary, I think I am saying that I vote to support your desire
reluctantly because I am generally a fan of overloading (but not in this
case if I am interpreting the facts correctly).
Of course, it may be too late b
I would think that apache.org would provide a free open source search
engine as an infrastructural resource? Can't we take advantage of that? Or
is perl.apache.org not actually part of apache.org infrastructure?
It seems to me that a lot more apache.org sites would benefit rather than
perl.apa
ly focused on request
>handling, and doesn't have any of the HTML generation cruft like
>CGI.pm.
The "HTML Generation cruft" is optional "cruft" and doesn't have to be
compiled in.
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est
>have exclusive rights to it. In other words, is it global to
>the current request or the entire "modperl" environment?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pierre
>
>
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just a pretty hard to find anything written in it in the real
world language).
Hmmm, this is becoming very much like an off-topic slashdot thread.
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ort that quite a bit because an OO
system contains syntactic glue that supports strong interfacing.
Later,
Gunther
>Allright, well, I'm done ranting about languages, sorry to bring you
>along for the trip :-).
>Thanks,
>Shane.
>
>(Let me make a quick note: I had two good professors. Dr. Kirby, and
>one other fellow I can't remember the name now..., hey! it's been a
>while! :)
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would attempt to check the cookie and if it did not exist, to use another
existing SessionManager to obtain the Session handle behind the scenes if
that is what you are referring to?
>The reason for asking is that other web technologies have this sort of
>functionality and this would be a great plus for mod_perl (I know it does
>not need it, and this can be easily writen..).
Agreed. Servlets for one support URL rewriting if cookies are turned off. I
don't think Microsoft ASPs support non-cookie based sessions, but I could
be wrong.
Later,
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You should be able to wrap the session creation inside an eval so that if
the session has expired, your code doesn't break, it silently creates a new
session behind the scenes.
That's if you have this requirement.
Later,
Gunther
At 04:50 PM 5/9/00 -0500, Jay Jacobs wrote:
>On Tue, 9 May
At 01:21 PM 5/10/00 -0500, Jay Jacobs wrote:
>I embedded notes into this with a short book at the end...
>
>On Wed, 10 May 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > There is a strong reason for cookies only. Intranets and other controlled
> > environments.
>
>
>I'
At 10:13 AM 5/12/00 -0300, FEITO Nazareno wrote:
>Correct me if I mistake, but i want to know what´s better...
>Cause with CGI is a little more difficult make forms and with handlers
>isn´t, i supposse i can use CGI and handlers at the same time.
>I´ve read that CGI object oriented programming jus
you know how
>most of them will conceive it, you shouldn't think twice. I doubt they
>know what "scripting" is. Also remember the bad history cookies carry with
>them.
Although I am sure there are people who turn off cookies, I believe that
there are many more people who couldn't care less and will leave them on.
However, I do concede that forcing users to use cookies for an open
internet site is silly. And it is becoming a lot sillier for eCommerce as
technologies like PDAs become more prevalent for people doing quick
searches and the like on the Web (PDAs typically do not implement cookie
capabilities)
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hich might from a get. phooey.
>
Why not compromise and call it form_data. :)
> > will you keep parms() around for folks who already have functions built
> > around it? maybe making a clean break with 2.0?
>
>sure, i'll make an alias for it.
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{ENVNAME}::Module;
>
>
>Could anyone tell me if this is possible in any way as I
>cannot get it to work, or if there is another way of
>achieving this.
>
>
>Kees
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At 11:18 AM 5/17/00 +0300, Stas Bekman wrote:
>On Wed, 17 May 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > I am curious as to why you don't care for 20 different apaches? If you use
> > a mod_proxy front-end, it should be relatively easy to manage 20 different
> > apache
If you are considering writing subclasses that do similar things to CGI.pm,
you might consider looking at CGI.pm 3.0 as the various features (eg HTML
generation) are more broken out... And then the two would run more parallel
to each other.
At 03:30 PM 5/17/00 +0100, Peter Haworth wrote:
>Drew
At 11:32 AM 5/17/00 -0400, Drew Taylor wrote:
>Vivek Khera wrote:
> >
> > Have you looked at CGI::Form that already exists? It would be a good
> > basis. Currently, it is based on CGI::Request but should be able to
> > use Apache::Request one would expect.
>Actually, I have briefly looked at thi
At 11:25 AM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Autarch wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote:
> >
> > > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which
> > > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current
> favourite
> > > name is Apache::Req
ut no CGI workflow exists around it). The
documentation and code for that set is located at
http://www.extropia.com/ExtropiaObjects/
Hope this helps,
Gunther
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re information than you probably wanted. Sorry about that in
advance.
Good Luck,
Gunther
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us direct package references... and people said that OO method calls
have a lot of overhead, but I think in later versions of Perl, OO method
call paths are cached(?) and so method calls no longer have the same
overhead as they used to.
Later,
Gunther
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> > Cheers,
> >
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There is a strong reason for cookies only. Intranets and other controlled
environments.
You generally do not have to worry about the lack of cookies, and if a user
does have them turned off in the organization, then you can mandate them to
turn them on as corporate policy if they want to use t
nterested in opportunities in our area, some with stock
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The Porn Group!? What type of list do you think this is? Just
kidding...sorry for the bad joke.
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rge.
At anyrate, At least we can probably all agree that Microsoft ASP/VBScript
is even worse for programming in-the-large. (for similar reasons, Perl has
a syntax that supports cleaner programming than ASP/VBScript)
Later,
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no formal programming background) tremendously in
>learning OO Perl and OO in general. A Must Read IMHO.
Wasn't going to respond, but I figured I would 2nd the Java one... So I
guess I 4th the Damien Conway book as well.
Later,
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I guess this is just a philosophical issue with me. I know others
like to store everything in their sessions. :)
Later,
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ly but walks the user
through the reasoning behind the patterns in a more practical, constructive
way.
>And this one is very nice also (good, readable programming):
>
>* Refactoring
> Martin Fowler, Editor
>
>
>Regards,
>
>--
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terface for everything I personally do. I
do feel it does make my code look more consistent since I use objects for
other stuff.
Later,
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>P.S. Lincoln is on the Perl Cruise in Alaska so I don't expect to hear
>from him in the next 2 weeks...
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I think the answer is yes if you are talking about a straight object data
structure. But no if you are talking about persistence of things like
socket or database connections that might be open resources that are
represented by your user object.
Apache::Session uses storable to serialize the o
Using tied hashes, you could conceivably make your own ordered hash class
and use that as the data structure you return. You'd still basically have
two data structures (for performance) but the fact that it is two data
structures would be hidden behind the tied hash which would be programmed
t
;t necessarily thinking about the same things that a hacker
might think about.
One type thinks about how to create things, the other thinks about how to
destroy things. It's a different way of thinking altogether.
A person may think it is easier to destroy than create, but I assure th
At 07:56 AM 6/7/00 -0400, Eric Strovink wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
>
>
> > >From: Jan Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >I don't think so. You should never let people execute arbitrary code on
> > >your web server anyways. If you do, then
Yes you get the benefit of shared modules. PerlRun only differs from
registry in the sense that it clears out the namespace of the main script.
As for leaking memory like a sieve? That is not unexpected with PerlRun
scripts because they are typically not coded cleanly. Hell, even our 6 year
ol
At 06:39 PM 6/11/00 -0500, Gerd Knops wrote:
>dreamwvr wrote:
> > hi Gerd,
> > that was very much what i was looking for! hmm.. seems that perl is
> > definately one of the most mem efficient langs whereas java is not.
> > cool and definately great reading although "talk about detail!" this
> > is
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At 06:01 PM 6/11/00 -0700, Perrin Harkins wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > 1. Session management. Because servlets are multi-threaded they have easy,
> > quick access to a shared memory pool. All the locking and shared
> > persistence code used
; On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. Would you write a chat engine in Perl? I wouldn't! (Well, actually
> I did
> > > 5 years ago but I am certainly not proud of that code).
>
>Hmm..., yes I would. At t
At 01:49 PM 6/21/00 -0500, Jeff Gleixner wrote:
>Ed Phillips wrote:
> >
> > It is interesting and and somewhat ironic that the Engineering
> > dep at eToys [...]
> >Paul Singh wrote:
>
>Enough already! Please stop posting non-mod_perl related drivel to this
>list! It is neither ironic nor intere
They usually pay by the word rather than the line though. So it makes sense
to say things several times but using different mechanisms. You know, kind
of like going over an idea again but with a slightly different twist.
Sometimes you can liken this to using different wording to discuss the sam
>it in within a few days, using Ask's and my code.
>
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figure every WML site will end up having an index.wml file as a
frontpage which will navigate the user to the full cgi-bin URL.
The reality is that no user in their right mind would ever type in a full
cgi-bin URL on one of those silly WAP phones. I have one and I got carpal
tunnel typin
There is a remote possibility (I would have to test this at work) that your
command-line testing will never show a taint problem.
Because you are typing all the Perl commands in STDIN, and because STDIN,
is by its very definition tainted, you get a security paradox and Perl may
be turning off
>This system used to be stable, and I can't find anything that's changed.
>Sunspots?
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>-- Mike
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r website because GPL is so tough.
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mething. Thats at
> > http://www.knowscape.org/modperl/
>
>Is too bad, I think this one looks really _slick_. It'd get my vote.
Even if some don't think it's perfect, it's certainly better than the one
now I would think?
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s (i.e. if AUTOLOAD has to resolve the methods every
> > time).
>
>Good point.
>
> > I can see reasons for creating an OO module that subclasses
> > Apache::Session, but I would do it to add methods that don't map directly
> > to a single hash key.
>
>Exac
does not get cached.
>Cheers,
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In addition, you can read the CGI.pm documentation on the use of
Perl/CGI.pm with FastCGI and you'll be good to go with that get next
request technique.
At 08:14 AM 7/7/00 +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote:
>Dana Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > FastCGI with perl may or may not be that fas
At 08:05 PM 7/15/00 -0700, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, Greg Cope wrote:
>
>[...]
> > Being serious - If there is any big news can someone post a summary - so
> > that those of us not going do not feel completely left out ?
>
>I'll bring my camera -
>http://www.nikonusa.com/produ
s this patch useful?
>
>
>BTW,
>
>the Guide on server architecture:
>http://perl.apache.org/guide/strategy.html
>
>Ask Bjoern Hansen's module proxy_add_forward
>http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/ABH/mod_proxy_add_forward.c
>
>
>-Tim
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who has it says that it
>is >exactly what I
> >need.
>
> >Can anyone answer this, and/or point me in the right
> >direction?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jonathan
>
>
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e equivalent days at SUN. If you didn't
go on vacation because it cost you 5% of your salary... OK then... that's
your choice... then I guess I would find it hard to convince you that it's
also worth it to go to a conference.
Later,
Gunther
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de some off list assistance?
>I just want to run a configuration by someone who
>knows more about this than I do and see if I am doing
>it right.
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Jeff Jones
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At 06:59 PM 7/21/00 +, you wrote:
>Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >Thoughts from anyone ?
> >
> > Yeah, you're being pretty cheap. :)
> >
> > Well, I'm sort of kidding here. But the reality is that a conference off
d Oracle solutions
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y or
>pass the exact data my template will use to the template system. When the
>HTML people want to add a new field on the page I don't want to have to
>always go into the application and provide that new data to the template --
>and that defeats one of the purposes of the template system.
>
>
>So, any suggestions on what one or two templating systems I should try that
>would do at least the above?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill Moseley
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I am afraid that while I agree, a check system is really quite useful to
me. Some things do need more quantification, but that can be done later.
eg lightweight vs heavyweight is subjective. But it can be broken up into
saying something like how much code needs to be loaded at start time (an
i
At 05:10 PM 8/3/00 -0700, Perrin Harkins wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Drew Taylor wrote:
> > Having recently discovered the joy of CVS, I look forward to it. Awfully
> > nice to able to roll back to a previous version - although (knock on
> > wood!) I haven't had to use it yet.
>
>I can help if you
At 05:33 PM 8/3/00 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > "Drew" == Drew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Drew> I suppose I could... I was planning on having a nice checklist of
>Drew> features/systems that would be a pain to do in a fixed width font. An
>Drew> HTML table would make my life
At 08:03 AM 8/4/00 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > At 05:10 PM 8/3/00 -0700, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> > >On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Drew Taylor wrote:
> > > > Having recently discovered the joy of CVS, I look forward to it
this or is the project
seeking volunteers or both?
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Well, the legal troubles should be outlined in the mod_ssl docs. I think it
just has to do with using the rsa_ref libraries because of a patent held in
the USA. But I haven't looked at it lately.
In theory you're supposed to get a license to use it. When you buy
StrongHold or another commercia
At 11:31 AM 8/26/00 -0700, Rob Tanner wrote:
>--On 08/26/00 18:51:31 +0200 Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Heh, obviously you have to supply the password on the server startup,
>>unless you use one of the workarounds described in the ssl docs
>>(secured utility that feeds the passwd i
At 11:46 AM 9/23/00 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Teijo Aulin wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm running Apache 1.3.12 with mod_perl 1.23 under Win98. I downloaded
> > AutoRank from www.cgi-works.net and tried to run it. I got the following
> > error message: "flock() unimplemented o
At 05:54 PM 9/23/00 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
>
> > At 11:46 AM 9/23/00 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> > >On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Teijo Aulin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > >
I usually write such things in Java. That's how I do it. :)
Just kidding.
Anyway, there are several ways:
1) Have the auction script do the cleanup every so often itself
The problem with this method is that it is non-deterministic and it can be
more resource intensive if the script is used a
At 12:46 AM 9/24/2000 -0400, Jim Winstead wrote:
>On Sep 24, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > The PerlCookbook seemed to indicate that mkdir is an atomic operation
> (both
> > checks if the directory exists and creates it if it does not), so a
> locking
> > mechanism bas
lot of ISP accounts for free with no extra cost. Java does
not yet, but I've started seeing ISPs starting to support Java in the low
end shared server accounts...
Later,
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Thanks. :)
Although I am not sure if this will help the person in question... I think
that persistent Perl seems to run into some odd/interesting issues where
taint mode is triggered in some odd ways. I've never encountered it myself
but I've heard from others that there is some weird stuff go
Ironically, this is also from early versions of Windows 95 where the
startup tips also say this eventually (if you leave them on enough).
Maybe Matt's a Microsoft Mole :)
At 08:53 AM 10/3/00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>nice - i especially like the faq:
>
> > q) Should I ever run with s
The difficulties in using mod_perl are not an offtopic though.
But I agree about the intelligent part. There are certainly clearer ways of
wording ones frustrations.
At 05:24 AM 10/4/00 -0400, ricarDo oliveiRa wrote:
>I think someone should tell Mr. "-" (aka 051581324) not to go offtopic. Or
>
It probably depends on his situation.
If this is not happening so frequently, then wasting an apache process
shouldn't be so bad. Writing an entire daemon plus a protocol for
communicating to it seems excessive in some cases and adds a point of
failure (the new daemon).
Another alternative if
I should probably place a plug and say that the open source extropia
authentication framework for Perl handles digital certificates, session's
with and without cookies, the unfriendly login screen, form-based logon
screens in it's default capacity.
As a company working on real projects, we've
If the script is a module then no.
If the script is a script being loaded by something else like
Apache::Registry, there is code in Apache::Registry to mangle the namespace
of the script so it appears to be different from a script of the same name
running at a different URL.
However, there is
nd will hopefully go forward
>from there.
>
>Regards
>
>Greg
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Just wondering who all from mod_perl is going to ApacheCon/Europe next week
and are there any plans to get together like there was at PerlCon. I missed
PerlCon unfortunately.
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> >
>
> > Apache then complains (and fails the request) with
> > a message of the sort:
>
> > [date] [error] [client 1.2.3.4] request failed: error reading the headers
>
> > I assume this is due to a compile time directive to Apache speci
eriously, could poeple drop me a note as to how they found it ? I do
> >not want to go to all the trouble of writing docs / install files /
> >source forge projects etc ... if its a load of rubbish and I am wasteing
> >my time.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Greg Cope
> >
>
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Nick,
I think you raise valid points that I think Nathan and the reviewers
should take on board when they do this chapter and subsequently review
it.
However...
1) I believe that rather than entirely naysay that some common cookbook
items can be covered in a mod_perl chapter, I would prefer
Stas Bekman wrote:
Hill, Ronald wrote:
It's much simpler than that. You need two sentences:
1) under mod_perl, globals remember their values from the previous
request, so you can cache the connection with:
$dbh ||= myconnect();
But Apache::DBI implements pinging (immediate or timing base
If I recall correctly, Jeffrey Baker (author of Apache::Session) wrote
an extremely lucid and well thought out argument about why the way
mod_perl pools connections is just as well as Java in reality.
Try searching for his name in the mod_perl list archives.. I think he
wrote this over a year a
Andy Wardley wrote:
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
I am planning to submit a proposal for a introduction talk on MVC in
a web environment.
[...]
Like Perrin I would like feedback on the idea before putting in my
proposal.
I like the sound of it, but I should warn you that I have a personal
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
HI,
I'd really like to see talks on:
1. Web Server Compression - a comparison, between mod_gzip, DynaGzip
Compress etc, pros / cons, SSL compression, and example configurations
2. Application Server Options - a comparison between pure-perl,
Apache/mod_perl, POE, Spee
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face-to-face would
sell better than pure telecommuting. Is this done very often
in telecommute
situations?
This is exactly what I hope to propose if the need arises in my situation.
Would love to hear from other
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Nathan" == Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nathan> Not for two years at least (the duration of the contract with the
Nathan> Portland hotel). The San Diego hotel was much more expensive and
Nathan> remote, compared to the Portland hotel. I think peop
Stas Bekman wrote:
While we are at the CGI.pm issue, I was thinking that those who stick
with CGI.pm because of its extended all-in-one functionality (request
parsing/ HTML generation), but unhappy about request parsing speed,
could benefit by integrating Apache::Request in CGI.pm to do the
re
You need to clear out the $ENV{PATH} variable. That is the insecure
dependency because the system() call cannot tell whether the program it is
calling might have its behavior change if the PATH was set maliciously.
Of course, this genrally applies to SUID scripts and not CGI, but
taintmode operat
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Spidaman The Defenestrator wrote:
>
[...snip...]
>
> But I digress. Go ahead, use cookies and mangle them into auth headers
> but make sure they aren't persistent cookies. And don't use this level of
> security for banking or commerce; those get mangled URL paths. In a s
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Ofer Inbar wrote:
> Eugene Sotirescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...snipped...]
>
> When a browser session comes in without appropriate authentication
> cookies, they get a login screen. When they post username and
> password, check that against the locally stored user tabl
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> This seems to work fine for us. It meets the requirements you state as
> having the connection password in just one place as well.
>
> I personally dont think that putting the password into the environment is
> such a good idea. Too much potent
Thank God someone else is as anal as me to have brought this up also (I
think I did a few months ago). I thought I was alone. :)
Anyway... I have lately been thinking of the abstractions because I wrote
a wrapper around Apache::Session for Extropia::Session.
Really, the issue is getting the abs
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Gerald Richter wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, it's kind of driven me a bit mad because I'm doigthis for
> > Extropia::Authentication (for pluggable auhentication modues on a CGI
> > level (not a mod_perl level). And there are a varity of ways to deal with
> > this as well. But one t
The advantage of using sendmail is
[1] a centralised MTA config.
[2] Graceful handling of problems and requeueing of messages if the SMTP
server specified by Net::SMTP would normally be down. eg automatic
resilience based on MX record rerouting can be nice.
Although in a mod_perl situation, I u
It is extraordinarily easy to make persistnt perl engines core dump
especailly if youare using 3rd party binary compiled modules that have
their own subtle bugs. And extraordinarily annoying to troubleshoot.
Either that or I have been very "lucky". ;)
However, with that said, it's generally not
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, Andy Wardley wrote:
> > >Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on
> > >Perl ?
> >
> > There are two in development that I know about, Iaijutsu and Istore:
> >
> > http://www.ninjacode.com/iaijuts
Just think that back then it was called the MINI-guide... my how baby
has grown. :)
Kudos!
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on
> 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that hav
Can you wonder why a large corporation would rather go with ASP for most
web apps as long as it gets the job done and it's pain threshhold is not
too high. Same with reasons for going with NT as a File Server or WEb
Server. Sure it sucks for sophisicated stuff ,but 90% of places don't
really need
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >
> > Now unfortunately a lot of people don't share our views on money. They
> > want to maximize the monetary value of their mod_perl knowledge, which
> > is all well and good as far as I care. The problem for these folks is
> > that the more widesprea
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