[opensource-dev] List migration next week

Heads up... As part of our migration to cloud services, we've decided to move this list to a newer platform. Here are the steps in that process: * On Thursday April 16th, the mailman service that drives this list now will be shut down and all list traffic halted. * The list archive will

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-03-19 11:58 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: However, a couple of things are confusing. Would you please care to explain them: - So far, on login, the only "account_level_benefits" parameters returned by the server are: "additional_listing_cost" and "num_free_listings", which are not even

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

The DRTVWR-481 branch has been promoted to the default viewer and pulled to the master branch. TPVs will save their users confusion and reduce support questions by getting as many users as possible onto viewers with this support by the time we change the Premium offerings. I don't have a

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-02-27 12:37 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: 2.- Had you*simply* (this is really trivial, since this is how the viewers and login server already work !) respected the normal protocol, not sending any "account_level_benefits" related info to the viewers not requesting that option

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-02-27 11:26 , Nathaniel Prugh wrote: Can you show me the links to announcement of new premium. Features like the plus? We have not yet announced the specific changes, just that some are coming including the new Premium Plus level.  Those should be coming pretty soon, but a search

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-02-25 16:10 , Nathaniel Prugh wrote: Where is announcement of those features in sl blog? So we know what new stuff coming soon etc? We don't normally use the blogs for communicating code changes; that's what this list is for. The fact that we're making changes to Premium and

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-02-27 08:21 , Cinder Roxley wrote: On February 25, 2020 at 2:17:16 PM, Henri Beauchamp (sl...@hotmail.com <mailto:sl...@hotmail.com>) wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:48:03 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > Why are there changes? > > The viewer currently ha

[opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

** *As we mentioned at the last Third Party Viewer meeting, the upcoming changes to Premium levels will require some viewer updates to maintain full compatibility.* * Why are there changes? The viewer currently has some messages and costs hard coded that will need to be sensitive to the

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

Our build process uses a common set of build options so that when we build third party libraries they match the options used to build the viewer itself. In mercurial, this was in the repository     lindenlab/viewer-build-variables We've now moved that to the git repository    

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

On 2019-12-16 09:47 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: On 2019-12-13 11:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: I've posted a document on how to follow our conversion from hg to git: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEvUxaGnTQ54JNd6B7TZQE_Z0JccaoTYmJGNaXsnq_o/edit?usp=sharing I'll try

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

On 2019-12-13 11:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: I've posted a document on how to follow our conversion from hg to git: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEvUxaGnTQ54JNd6B7TZQE_Z0JccaoTYmJGNaXsnq_o/edit?usp=sharing I'll try to get the wiki updated to our new processes over the next

[opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

I've posted a document on how to follow our conversion from hg to git: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEvUxaGnTQ54JNd6B7TZQE_Z0JccaoTYmJGNaXsnq_o/edit?usp=sharing I'll try to get the wiki updated to our new processes over the next few weeks. -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering

Re: [opensource-dev] "upcoming removal of SLShare"...

On 2019-11-18 10:04 , Lance Corrimal wrote: So that would affect twitter, flickr, and what else? Facebook -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com | Scott Lawrence LINDEN LAB | Create

Re: [opensource-dev] "upcoming removal of SLShare"...

On 2019-11-15 04:11 , Lance Corrimal wrote: Hi guys, I just saw this phrase somewhere... "upcoming removal of SLShare" What exactly is going on? The services we were providing interfaces to via SLShare have not maintained stable interfaces; each of them has repeatedly changed the interface

Re: [opensource-dev] Python and autobuild

On 2019-10-13 17:02 , Alex wrote: Is there any work underway to make autobuild compatible with Python 3? Yes... it'll be public shortly -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com | Scott Lawrence

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial and BitBucket

I got asked... Regarding: https://bitbucket.org/blog/sunsetting-mercurial-support-in-bitbucket What are the Lab’s plans? Clearly, how the TPVs handle this needs to depend on your own plans – particularly whether that’s staying with Mercurial hosted some other way or changing to Git (or

[opensource-dev] Discontinuing the viewer-development-commits list

As part of cleaning up little-used infrastructure, I am discontinuing the posts for commits to viewer-release on the viewer-development-commits list.  If you would like notices, you can create your own personal notices by 'watching' the repository using bitbucket. -- OZ LINDEN | Senior

Re: [opensource-dev] SL server issues in the past 4 months

On 2019-04-08 09:27 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: In the hope my observations will help you guys to get things back on track (because it's getting really badly needed). Thank you Henri. We are very much aware of these problems and trying hard to correct them, but I believe you may have added some

[opensource-dev] CEF update for Chrome vulnerability

If your viewer incorporates CEF, you should merge from https://bitbucket.org/callum_linden/viewer-release-cve-2019-5786 This has the fix for the recently announced Chromium vulnerability CVE-2019-5786 There

Re: [opensource-dev] HTTP asset fetching will soon be mandatory

Sorry ... this ended up in my Junk folder somehow... On 2018-10-19 09:52 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: I don't see AT_TEXTURE listed: does it mean that we will still be able to fetch textures via UDP sim messages ? No, we plan to remove texture fetching via UDP at the same time (the person that

[opensource-dev] HTTP asset fetching will soon be mandatory

** *For several years now, we have had the ability to fetch textures directly via HTTP. This has several advantages. It reduces load on the simulator, which no longer needs to act as an intermediary, and allows textures to be fetched reliably and efficiently using a CDN; this mean that data

Re: [opensource-dev] llbase

On 2018-04-10 16:51 , Nicky Perian wrote: package llbase has no installation information configured for platform linux64 What is the correction for this? llbase is pure python, so you should be able to copy from any other platform. -- OZ LINDEN | Senior Director, Second Life Engineering

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux viewer manage

On 2018-03-26 13:23 , Nicky Perian wrote: http://s3-proxy.lindenlab.com/private-builds-secondlife-com/ct2/3428/8686/viewer_manager-1.0-linux-503417.tar.bz2 Please public this. Just need to get past configure. I know it will likely never be used. I want to keep as many files matching as

Re: [opensource-dev] CDN

On 2018-03-23 15:51 , Nicky Perian wrote: What is the procedure for determining which CDN node is use for viewer instance. Then, how do you determine which assets are present on that CDN and not present in the viewer? You just use the url base as supplied by the asset capabilities. There is

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux

On 2018-01-23 07:05 , Nicky Perian wrote: Which version of Debian does LL plan to use? Stretch is at stable. I had been planning on Jessie, but this took longer than I hoped, so yeah we'll go for Stretch. -- OZ LINDEN | Senior Director, Second Life Engineering email or hangouts:

[opensource-dev] new autobuild 1.1

We've done a couple of minor fixes to autobuild 1.1 recently. You can update to version 1.1.7 with 'pip'. -- OZ LINDEN | Engineering Director, Second Life email or hangouts: o...@lindenlab.com | Real Life: Scott Lawrence LINDEN LAB | Create Virtual Experiences

[opensource-dev] 64bit builds ... new autobuild

If you're doing builds based on our lindenlab/viewer64, you'll want to update your copy of autobuild to version 1.1.4 (or later, if there is one when you get to this). That new autobuild constructs the default revision number in a way that fits in a 32bit integer, which at least for the time

Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer and Apple maintained opensource libraries

On 2017-02-01 15:24 , Geir Nøklebye wrote: When will be see the crash in the occlusion code being fixed due to the fact that GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 is not available in the OpenGL Legacy Profile the renderer currently is forced to when the viewer is running on macOS 10.11 or higher? If

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux

On 2017-01-30 12:41 , Nicky D. wrote: For the time being, we expect that it will be based on the current system, modified to use system libraries rather than autobuild packages that build a static executable (some packages will be used in our builds for proprietary components). I'm not sure

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux

On 2017-01-29 20:39 , Nicky Perian wrote: Questions: Will LL use a build system that can be updated as opposed to the current out of date system? Hopefully, the build system will be a standard off the shelf that everyone can install and without any mix and match specials. For the time being,

Re: [opensource-dev] windows build issues

On 2017-01-04 16:27 , Nicky D. wrote: I noticed you use: autobuild ... -- *"*...*"* Does it make a difference if you do not use " after -- and at the end of the line? I never tried to quote everything after the --, but can see how this could cause issues. It probably will. One of the

Re: [opensource-dev] 64 bit viewers build instructions

On 2016-12-22 09:58 , Nat Goodspeed wrote: In general, we have tried to isolate build artifacts under the build-whatever directory, in this case build-vc120-32 or build-vc120-64. That includes the libraries installed by autobuild: there should be separate build-vc120-32/packages and

Re: [opensource-dev] 64 bit lib archives

On 2016-10-26 18:17 , Nicky Perian wrote: Starting to dabble a bit with p64_3p-zlib. At autobuild build --address-size 32 getting: ../build-cmd.sh: line 44: AUTOBUILD_WIN_CMAKE_GEN: unbound variable Any idea what I am doing wrong? We do plan to document this on the wiki soon - we've been

Re: [opensource-dev] Darwin build failure

On 2016-11-17 05:41 , Nicky Perian wrote: I saw this issue a few years ago and it was a not having llbase.py installed. I can't recall the solution, but it was simple. pip install llbase -- OZ LINDEN | Engineering Director, Second Life email or hangouts: o...@lindenlab.com

Re: [opensource-dev] Firewall block of media files

On 2016-05-19 09:49 , Ricky wrote: The issue there, I suspect, is that the files are served with the wrong MIME type Close ... they are sent with a Content-Disposition header that specifies that they be saved as a file. Some applications may ignore or override this. It used to be true, for

Re: [opensource-dev] Quicktime

On 2016-04-20 14:53 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: >This is only true for old codebases. The modern viewer using Chromium >Embedded Framework no longer requires Quicktime. Quicktime was only used to >decode media streams. But the viewers now do this with the CEF codec. Nope !... Media URLs pointing

[opensource-dev] Moving my weekly meeting... and no meeting next week

to do for SL, so the next meeting will be Feb 17. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Second Life Oz Linden <https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden> Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Cre

Re: [opensource-dev] Mac OS X Metal support

On 2015-10-24 05:14 , Laurent Bechir wrote: Hello Do you have some plan concerning the support of Metal in the viewer ? Not at this time. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Second L

[opensource-dev] Moving to Xcode 7

://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/viewer-xcode-7 into your project -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Second Life Oz Linden <https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden> Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative

[opensource-dev] IMPORTANT: hg.secondlife.com deprecated

it will make https work better. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative Spaces http://lindenlab.com/ Check

Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer-tools-update build environment setup procedures

(Mac_OS_X_XCode_6.1) -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative Spaces http://lindenlab.com/ Check out what we're

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

sooner. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative Spaces http://lindenlab.com/ Check out what we're working

Re: [opensource-dev] Mac viewer-tools-update build environment setup procedures

to the current Xcode (6.1) and install the new autobuild. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative Spaces http

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

is that it fetches and installs them if you need them (and easy_install is needed to bootstrap pip). -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

years. If that's true, by all means let's kill it. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative Spaces http

Re: [opensource-dev] Jonathan's attempt to rearrange the graphics preferences

that they can tell whether or not they are being rendered - ideally without being able to tell much about by whom. Watch this space. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

personally done that in two different tpv projects.) Is this something Linden Lab would be willing to consider? I’d be happy to do the work to remove it if it is. What would the end user effect be? -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

to a generic lindenlab location. In time, it will be, but not until we've completed the transition to using the new version everywhere. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

on the issues of getting any required changes made. We appreciate your patience. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

Life in the coming several months), so please forgive me if my responses are even slower than usual. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

viewer_version.txt for manifest processing ) That looks like cmake is trying to run commands in a windows shell rather than bash; the printf is a bash command. This works in our build environment. It's possible that it could be replaced with cmake FILE commands? -- *Oz Linden

Re: [opensource-dev] Avatar Hover Height feature

On 2015-02-02 13:05 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: I will say that your input would certainly have been considered had you been a part of the conversation at the time rather than posting a note on our private forum well after the fact. s/our private forum/your private forum/ -- *Oz

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

. Build completes in 77 minutes. Should we provide open source developers both methods? I would prefer not to support more than one configuration for internal use and one for external use. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com

Re: [opensource-dev] Avatar Hover Height feature

the fact that you refuse to contribute your code, I'm happy to make sure that your input is considered if and when you provide it in a timely way; I hope that in the future you'll chose to engage more productively. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

-DLL_TESTS:BOOL=OFF to turn off both packaging and tests. The tests should work - they do for us, though I suppose some may depend on libs not in open source. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email or Hangouts o...@lindenlab.com mailto:o...@lindenlab.com | Second

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

On 2014-12-23 18:17 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: As some of you are certainly aware, the Linden viewer devs have been busy for the last several weeks updating our tools for building viewers. The tools changes include: * Windows building with Visual Studio 2013 * Mac building

Re: [opensource-dev] Jonathan's attempt to rearrange the graphics preferences

nightmare, horrible, and even hate do not make your case more persuasive. Fortunately, most of you objecting are quite capable of creating UI replacements of your own and won't have to suffer for too long with ours. -- *Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)* | /Engineering Director, Second Life/ Email

[opensource-dev] Viewer Tools Upgrades - with a call for help

As some of you are certainly aware, the Linden viewer devs have been busy for the last several weeks updating our tools for building viewers. The tools changes include: * Windows building with Visual Studio 2013 * Mac building on OSX 10.10 with Xcode 6.1 * Linux building with gcc 4.6 *

[opensource-dev] Library Refresh viewer

As many of you have seen, Monty has recently updated the versions of several of the libraries we use in the viewer. We've now published a Project viewer with those changes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers#Second_Life_Project_Refresh_Channel Any

[opensource-dev] STANDALONE - USESYSTEMLIBS

The subject of how confusing the name of the STANDALONE switch is came up yet again at one of my meetings the other day, and I've just decided to kill this problem once and for all. I've prepped a repo with it changed to USESYSTEMLIBS (and the corresponding C preprocessor symbol changed to

[opensource-dev] codereview.secondlife.com shut down

For some time now, I've been asking people to just use bitbucket.org repositories for code reviews. That, in combination with jira, has been working reasonably well so I've decided to shut down the codereview.secondlife.com instance of 'reviewboard'. The content has all been archived at

Re: [opensource-dev] Beta Server Release Notes

On 2014-02-06, 14:13 , Harold Brown wrote: The Beta Server Release notes (Magnum, BlueSteel and LeTigre) have not been updated since early in January. And seeing as a new release was pushed it would be nice to see what those changes were. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta/BlueSteel

Re: [opensource-dev] Evil bug found that can cause inventory loss: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-201

On 2014-01-25, 07:09 , Lance Corrimal wrote: Hi guys, I just found this one: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/OPEN-201 Please don't use OPEN for bugs like that one... the OPEN project is for issues that have to with building the software, not for bugs in the software itself. Can cause

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

On 2013-10-07 12:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: After some discussion with both Second Life and Desurium contributors, Linden Lab has produced a draft of a new Contributor License Agreement http://lecs.opensource.secondlife.com/draft-contribution-agreement-2013-10-04.pdf that we

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

On 2013-10-07 14:52 , Nicky Perian wrote: The original CLA may have same items and I just did not catch that casual verbal / oral conversations unless prefaced with this is not a contribution would be considered a contribution. For me, that puts a chill on discussing with any LL employee the

Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

On 2013-10-07 18:50 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: The requested info (snail mail address and private phone number) are simply excessive in relation for the purpose (identifying an author: see below). We don't believe that information is excessive for that purpose. You are of course free to

[opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

As most of you probably know, Linden Lab acquired Desura^(TM), a digital distribution service for PC gamers. The code for the Desura client is open source, managed as the Desurium project on github https://github.com/desura/Desurium. The Desurium project used a different open source licenses

[opensource-dev] Snowstorm project viewer

The next round of open source contributions is up in a Project viewer: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers#Second_Life_Project_Snowstorm_Channel including a nice Request Teleport feature from Jonathan Yap that can only be tested if both participants are on

Re: [opensource-dev] Leap Motion integration

On 2013-08-04 05:52 , Elenia wrote: Hello all Since the Simon Linden's works https://bitbucket.org/simon_linden/viewer-rabbit (last commit in March) no news. So I took the llleapmotioncontroller.cpp and I have integrated it at the last version of Snowstorm (3-6-2-28466), and I have made a

[opensource-dev] Maintenance viewer promoted to 3.6.3-release

The sources from viewer-bear have been pulled to viewer-release and the 3.6.3-release tag has been added. -- *Scott Lawrence* | /Director of Open Development/ Skype ozlinden skype://ozlinden | Second Life Oz Linden https://my.secondlife.com/oz.linden Linden Lab| Makers of Shared Creative

[opensource-dev] Vivox update promoted to 3.6.2-release

The Vivox update candidate has been promoted to the default 3.6.2-release Second Life Release viewer. The sources have been pushed to the canonical viewer-release repository. -- *Scott Lawrence* | /Director of Open Development/ Skype ozlinden skype://ozlinden | Second Life Oz Linden

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer branches and their repositories

On 2013-07-23 08:05 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:52:57 -0400, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: On 2013-07-18 05:20 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Viewer_Source_Repositories Ah, yes, thank you... What about putting a link

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer branches and their repositories

On 2013-07-18 05:20 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Viewer_Source_Repositories Ah, yes, thank you... What about putting a link to that page on the https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers page ?... The alternate

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer branches and their repositories

On 2013-07-17 13:38 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: Greetings, I'm a bit confused with LL's new release process: many beta and project viewers are available for download as binaries on the Wiki (see: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers ) but there is no corresponding

Re: [opensource-dev] code review in the new release process

On 2013-05-22 22:59 , Nicky Perian asks: Which repositories will be used to open code review? Will each project be available for code review? An excellent pair of questions... I'll take them in reverse order. *How will you know which repositories are active, and will they be reviewable?*

Re: [opensource-dev] Is the Cocoa project still alive ?

On 2013-05-11 13:15 , Laurent Bechir wrote: Hello, I haven't seen any new build of the Cocoa Project viewer since 02-28, and the last one freezes on startup on my Macbook Air with Mountain Lion 10.8.3. Yes, it's just in temporary suspended animation - we'll thaw it out very soon. --

[opensource-dev] Terms Of Service change re: L$ exchange

Linden Lab has made a change to the Terms of Service - see the blog post at http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Updated-Second-Life-Terms-of-Service/ba-p/1996185 If you are a viewer developer, and your viewer includes use of a third party exchange for functions like 'buy L$,' it

Re: [opensource-dev] Terms Of Service change re: L$ exchange

On 2013-05-07 14:11 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: Linden Lab has made a change to the Terms of Service - see the blog post at http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Updated-Second-Life-Terms-of-Service/ba-p/1996185 If you are a viewer developer, and your viewer includes use

Re: [opensource-dev] LSL commands/parameters for light projectors

On 2013-01-30 07:22 , Tillie Ariantho wrote: Hello, my feature request BUG-1497 (see below) got closed (not applicable). Why that? Do we have so submit working patches for features requests? I think my request is pretty valid. *LSL commands for light projectors* Implementation of

[opensource-dev] Increased maximum animation length

A change coming in the 3.4.5 Beta that other viewers will probably want to adopt quickly Increase maximum animation length from 30 seconds to 60 seconds https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/viewer-beta/commits/07e5202c7c954e14004f7f366e9b13093eea71f3

Re: [opensource-dev] Upcoming server side avatar baking

On 2012-12-17 03:43 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:58 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: For any of you developing viewers that are not in the TPV Directory and so didn't get the notice there We have now made available the code for our upcoming server side

[opensource-dev] Upcoming server side avatar baking

For any of you developing viewers that are not in the TPV Directory and so didn't get the notice there We have now made available the code for our upcoming server side baking changes - you will need to update to be compatible with this in order for users to see avatars correctly once the

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: Put the viewer version into marker files, and report errors only when the version matches

On 2012-11-01 12:09 , Ricky wrote: Wouldn't it be better if the crash could be reported anyway - just marking the correct version? With this in place at least crashes won't be misreported, but they also will be not reported to the servers at all, causing statistical deviation - what I

Re: [opensource-dev] Formal Animation Set Replacer

On 2012-11-02 11:01 , Adeon Writer wrote: A few months back there seemed to be interest on this mailing list in a formal way to have custom animation sets for avatars without LSL scripts (Animation Overriders) Yes, this did kick off some interesting and fruitful discussions internally, but

Re: [opensource-dev] Materials

On 2012-11-09 15:54 , Dahlia Trimble wrote: Are the protocol changes documented anywhere? Who might be able to provide any information about them? Not until we've got both sides implemented and tested, no. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm dev build

On 2012-10-30 10:48 , Hitomi Tiponi wrote: As day 10 is approaching of the next dev viewer build being 'in progress' I am filled with anticipation at the goodies it must contain to take so long to build. Or is it stuck again and no-one noticed? No... we're focused on the problems in beta,

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Source Thursday Meeting Time

On 2012-10-25 16:25 , Nalates Urriah wrote: Is there any any formation on what time the Thursday meeting is moving to? Formerly 13:00 or 1PM PT and now 15:00 or 3 PM PT... which conflicts with Oskar Linden's meeting: Server Beta on ADITI. Yes... sorry for the confusion conflicts. I'm

[opensource-dev] Fwd: Group management viewer update

Viewer developers who would like to test the upcoming changes for how large groups are fetched (viewer changes are in https://bitbucket.org/baker_linden/viewer-development-baker) ... see below for where and how to test. These changes are not generally available yet, so merging them to your

Re: [opensource-dev] New HTTP Library Project Viewer

On 2012-10-23 06:10 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: Unless the router is buggy, it shouldn't be impacted by the number of open sockets (at least not under 60K sockets)... Some protocols, such as torrent can use hundreds or even thousands of sockets at once. Our experience is that _many_ consumer

Re: [opensource-dev] New HTTP Library Project Viewer

On 2012-10-23 14:05 , Dahlia Trimble wrote: Would this excerpt from RFC2616 (section 8.2) be relevent? Perhaps some routers and other infrastructure assume this as design criteria: Clients that use persistent connections SHOULD limit the number of simultaneous connections that they

Re: [opensource-dev] New HTTP Library Project Viewer

On 2012-10-20 11:14 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: Is there any server running the corresponding improved HTTP code on Aditi ? Not yet. When there is, we'll post a note on this list. As Tankmaster said, our ambition at this point is that the server side will be compatible with all existing viewers

Re: [opensource-dev] New time for Thursday Open Dev meeting

On 2012-10-16 19:32 , Tank Master wrote: I think you mean 14:00, right? Yours was at 13:00, and the server beta UG is at 15:00 already. ~Tank No, I meant what I said. It's an experiment... we'll see how it goes. I can't avoid all possible conflicts.

Re: [opensource-dev] feature suggestion: make doubleclick navigation more immersive

On 2012-09-21 03:17 , Lance Corrimal wrote: Hi all! Here's a feature idea that I just had, and I thought I'd float it past here before I post a feature request on the jira. As a user I would like to see a third option for doubleclick navigation inworld: pathfinding - immersive With that

[opensource-dev] accidental commits...

We had an accidental push to viewer-development (steps have been taken to avoid a repeat). The correct tip as of when I'm writing this is 24758:63088c18a73c Sorry about that... For the conspiracy-minded, this had nothing whatever to do with todays Jira changes, and all those commits will be

[opensource-dev] Congratulations to Firestorm

On behalf of Linden Lab, I'd like to extend congratulations to the Firestorm Viewer team. Last week, Firestorm took over the #1 spot on the list of Second Life viewers in terms of total user time, surpassing its elder cousin, Phoenix. The Phoenix viewer still has a slight lead in number of

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial repository webpage layout

On 2012-08-29 17:03 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: Greetings, The layout of LL's mercurial repository (http://hg.secondlife.com/) recently changed, and for the worst... The old layout allowed to see with a single glance what/when things last changed in each repository (the list on the right gave

Re: [opensource-dev] New HTTP Library Project Viewer

On 2012-08-02 12:47 , Dahlia Trimble wrote: So, if pipelining is implemented and it works, what other bottlenecks are there that make multiple connections work so well? Pipelining is not, unfortunately, supported yet on the servers... we're working on that. And despite Carlos assertions to

Re: [opensource-dev] ok this may sound dumb but what is the llphysicsextention package

On 2012-08-07 16:09 , Angel Dreams wrote: its something i saw i never seen that package before is it new or something? It is the wrapper around the Havok functionality in the viewer. It replaces (and incorporates) llconvexdecomposition. For open source, there is a stub version.

Re: [opensource-dev] HG-Repositories

On 2012-08-07 15:18 , Boroondas Gupte wrote: From recent changes https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Viewer_Integration_and_Release_Processesdiff=1171369oldid=1168497 on the wiki, I take that the role of the various official mercurial repositories has changed again. Which repository

Re: [opensource-dev] New HTTP Library Project Viewer

On 2012-07-29 04:07 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: With just a few tweakings to the texture fetcher (and in particular a setting that permits up to 32 concurrent HTTP fetches), Caution... once we begin supporting persistent connections and pipelined requests on the server side (we're working on

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