Re: MZ-S semiprofessionel

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Chan
The translator didn't bother to mention the MLU feature either with the 2sec. timer. Probably the same idiot that translated "magnesium aluminium beschichtetess Gehause" which then became "magnesium alloy body coating" in English on the Photokina explanation panel. Not that I have too high

Re: MZ-S semiprofessionel

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Chan
Not that I have too high expectations, but "semiprofessionel" is a poor choice of words, because it can be interpreted as "not suitable for profesionel" all to easily. The text also says "professional travel and reportage photography". I think this suits very well. The MZ-S is no all

Re: Re[2]: MZ-S semiprofessionel

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Chan
BTW, most of this text looks like a translation of the same (originally Japanese?) texts I have read before in English. The equivalent presentation on the Pentax.com website is titled: PENTAX LAUNCHES NEW FLAGSHIP 35MM AUTOFOCUS SLR, THE MZ-S PROFESSIONAL But still, they haven't

Re: enlargement factor

2001-02-17 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Kevin wrote: Wouldn't it be 400x? 20 x length x20 x width= 400 x area Probably just depends on how you define magnification. Nope -- 20x ; one inch (shortest side) relative to 20inches (if you want to use the linear magnification which is all but

RE: SMC - Zeiss x Asahi ?!?

2001-02-17 Thread Peter Smith
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Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Jon Hope wrote: That's why the camera has an MF/AF switch, and lenses a focusing ring. :-) If you're not happy with what the AF is selecting you can go to MF. It happens a lot, especially when you are focusing on an area that isn't covered by an AF sensor. Can an AF sensor focus on

FW: Green Star 200mm F2.8 on ebay........

2001-02-17 Thread Douglas E Harmon
Hey guys, Slumming on e-Bay and found this unatainable morsel (to me at least) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1215328829 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget

FW: 50mm F1.2 on e-Bay....

2001-02-17 Thread Douglas E Harmon
More good glass for you all (I need to get a real job) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1215307664 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users'

RE: 77mm Ltd Questions

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
I love this lens overall. The only flaw of this lens would be the inside reflection of the lens barrel behind the front element, which causes some kinds of flare in side-light situations. So you need an effective hood for this lens. Just my opinion. -- Yoshihiko Takinami Osaka,

RE: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
Can an AF sensor focus on something as small as an eye? It seems that, from what I understand you to be saying, it may not be possible to get that precise, and that MF may well be a better, more accurate, method of focusing when making typical portraits, especially if one were to be

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting his...

2001-02-17 Thread LEDMRVM
In a message dated 2/16/2001 10:11:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3. OL messages. These are "contributions" to the PDML that have essentially nothing to do with Pentax in specifics nor with photography in general, and therefore, in my humble opinion,

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Jon Hope
At 18:49 17/02/01, you wrote: Can an AF sensor focus on something as small as an eye? It seems that, from what I understand you to be saying, it may not be possible to get that precise, and that MF may well be a better, more accurate, method of focusing when making typical portraits, especially

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Matjaz OSOJNIK
Shel asked: Can an AF sensor focus on something as small as an eye? It seems that, from what I understand you to be saying, it may not be possible to get that precise, and that MF may well be a better, more accurate, method of focusing when making typical portraits, especially if one were

Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Ralf Engelmann
John Mustarde wrote: Although my first impression was reserved, I think the MZ-S will be a big hit, especially with the love-factor crowd who see a camera as a class act in addition to a photo tool. Even though I think I have understood the concept behind the MZ-S, I would be surprised

Re: Some MZ-S informationl Data imprinting patent

2001-02-17 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:58:48 -0600 (CST), Chris Brogden wrote: It uses the same printing system as the date feature on the compacts. LED lights that put the information down as the film is winding, not while it is stationery That matches the info in the Pentax patent on data-imprinting,

PZ-1P accessories

2001-02-17 Thread Larry
Before our studio went to all P645N, I used a PZ-1P with a "grip strap" which also attached to the bottom of the camera as well. I my opinion, it gave the camera a better appearance and the side strap made carrying it somewhat easier. Is that grip strap still available. If so, where. Thanks

Break the Bank for Pentax on Ebay

2001-02-17 Thread John Mustarde
Congrats to Ebayers for jacking up the prices on certain Pentax lenses lately. Another A* 135/1.8 sold for over $1,800 - and it was not even in mint condition! This is a lens that regularly traded for a maximum of $650 as recently as 18 months ago. Bet they start coming out of the closets now.

Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 59

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 2:42:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 59 Date: 2/17/01 2:42:29 AM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Adam) My point is, even within the same newspaper, you can usually tell what

Re: MZ-S semiprofessionel

2001-02-17 Thread Ralf Engelmann
Hi Erwin, you wrote: When I say poor choice of words, I'm not talking about the camera, I'm talking about selling a product. ... However the last thing one should do, is to put a new 2500,--DM camera in the catalog, and to include in the TITLE of the very first public presentation : for

whats up w the pentax K primes on ebay?

2001-02-17 Thread dees
I've been watching the scarce 'mint' ones go unsold for awhile now - first the 30mmf2.8-K, then the 20mm f4-K and now the 50mm f.1.2-K - all from same seller, and the prices were (relatively) low, how come? people losing interest in K series, or cause of the seller? and thanks for all the

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread John Mustarde
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:14:46 -0800, you wrote: As I was shooting yesterday, I was thinking about how an AF camera might focus in the same situation. I don't believe an AF camera can focus as precisely. Sure it can - just move the little switch beside the lens mount. The one that says AF or

RE: 77mm Ltd Questions

2001-02-17 Thread Yoshihiko Takinami
Hello, At 17 Feb 2001 05:12:08 -0600, "Len Paris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote; The only flaw of this lens would be the inside reflection of the lens barrel behind the front element, which causes some kinds of flare in side-light situations. So you need an effective hood for this lens.

RE: PZ-1P accessories

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
Last time I looked BH had them. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ Another place to look if BH is out of them is Adorama, http://adoramacamera.com/ Len --- Before our studio went to all P645N, I used a PZ-1P with a "grip strap" which also attached to the bottom of the camera as well. I my

Thank`s to Boz and Martin

2001-02-17 Thread Raivo Tiikmaa
Thank`s to Boz and Martin for answer to my question about MZ-10. Raivo --- Ühe e-maili aadressi asemel 5! Uuri järgi - http://www.hot.ee

RE: 77mm Ltd Questions

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
I do not think the built-in hood of FA77/1.8 Limited is effective enough. I consider it as an emergency hood. My favorite hood for the lens is Pentax MH-RB52, a lens hood for 85mm soft lens. Yes, you need 49 to 52 step up ring. I also use Olympus rubber hood for 40/2, 85/2, or

Re: (definitely stupid) BowWow Challenge

2001-02-17 Thread Chris Brogden
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Chris writes, w/ unabashed pseudo-arrogance ... Hey, I resent that! I'm the genuine arrogant article, through and through. :) Um... not personally, but I think Bill C. might be persuaded to lend out his Amazing 20mm Barking Takumar. :)

Are Sigma lenses trash??

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
Skip wrote: Maybe. But I would like to know about Sigma, for Pentax k-mounts. I found this weird site on the web that is all about Sigma lenses. The first three quarters of all the postings there are horror stories from people completely knocking Sigma(s); ie; "they're trash held together by

Re: Pentax glasses are the WORST (for CdI)

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
John wrote: I think Mike has come up with the best sig line ever for the discriminating equipment-enabled photo buff. Can I steal it? It won't be stealing...it will be "helping disseminate the truth." Please help yourself. I'm sorry I don't have it to hand, but a few years ago I attended a

Re: 77mm Ltd Questions

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 6:15:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the hood that comes with the lens an effective hood? Or do we need to find a larger, deeper one than that? Only HAMA steel hoods from Germany seem to be deep enough. My recent purchase of a 67mm

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDMLrewriting his...

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
Ed wrote: I couldn't agree more! BTW, my degrees are in history. Regards, Ed M. Uh, but I thought an Ed.M was a Masters in Education!! g, d, r --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 7:48:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but is this positive? The MZ-S might get the image of a slow camera with luxury attitude for the slow people with luxury attitude. What? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message

RE: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Ralf wrote: "Even though I think I have understood the concept behind the MZ-S, I would be surprised if it becomes a _big_ hit. It might sell well, especially in the first time though." REPLY: I agree but it's obvious to me that the MZ-S is not designed for high volume. This makes sense to

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Ed Mathews
Hi Shel, Yes, your assumption is correct, AF is not for everything, especially for us people shooters. I prefer to use it as a feature I resort to when manual focus is difficult (getting more frequent as I approach 40). While many of the smaller center zone AF brackets in cameras are very

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Autofocus Question The trouble with using the centre AF sensor for portraits is that you can end up with images that you wouldn't take if you were using MF. How do you mean that? I have found that AF users (myself

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Ralf Engelmann
Carlos Royo wrote: Please explain to us what you mean when you write "young and wild camera". ... it (MZ-S) seems to me the kind of camera we have been longing for: light, small, sturdy, with almost every useful feature needed for nearly everyone. That's a 100% subjective view and a

Re: Pentax glasses are the WORST (for CdI)

2001-02-17 Thread dosk
Bravo Mike! Good reminders here about enjoying yourself and forgetting about perfectionism Dosk If you love a lens and some "test" says it sucks, who are you going to believe? All lens tests are wrong. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Rofini
Shel asks: As I was shooting yesterday, I was thinking about how an AF camera might focus in the same situation. I don't believe an AF camera can focus as precisely. It seems the sensors are too large to be able to focus specifically on an eye, or any particular facial feature. Is this the

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ed Mathews wrote: Hi Ed ... AF is not for everything, especially for us people shooters. I prefer to use it as a feature I resort to when manual focus is difficult What MF bodies are you using? The LX (and, I suppose, the MX to a degree) with its interchangeable screens seems to work

RE: 50/1.2 on eBay

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
Re Doug's reference to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem =1215307664 This same item was offered, and sold, a few months ago on eBay. That always makes me a little suspicious--I'd at least ask the seller why the prior sale went wrong, and, if you can dig it up,

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Rofini wrote: Robert Monaghan has an interesting page comparing auto focus with manual focus. Seems rather scathing to the autofocus camp. See: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/third/af.html I read that some time ago, and my recollection is that the comments weren't at all favorable to

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for portraiture, you ought to use manual focus, trying to set the ~exact~ plane of focus ~just *behind* the eyes~, never in front. *Focusing just behind the eyes gives them depth. Great tip. I'll have to try that and see if I can make it work even with

Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 10:51:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Mafud Subject: Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160 *("Rating" film is a slide/BW technique). Could you expand on this thought please? Are you saying that people who

Re: lenstesting futility

2001-02-17 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
dosk wrote: Bravo Mike! Good reminders here about enjoying yourself and forgetting about perfectionism Arf! , Arf! --- Bow Wow! --- Ahrrrugh!! !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography

Re: 50/1.2 on eBay

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mike Johnston wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1215307664 This same item was offered, and sold, a few months ago on eBay. How do you know it's the same lens? I couldn't see any serial number on the lens, nor was there one mentioned in the description. The

RE: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
Shel asks: As I was shooting yesterday, I was thinking about how an AF camera might focus in the same situation. I don't believe an AF camera can focus as precisely. It seems the sensors are too large to be able to focus specifically on an eye, or any particular facial feature. Is

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread K.Takeshita
on 2/17/01 12:07 PM, Shel Belinkoff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in the ZX5N (besides not being able to choose the AF sensor), the outer AF brackets are only sensitive to horizontal lines so in the portrait position, they don't see the eyeball well. That's good to know. Since the MZ-3

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 10:55:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am talking about my sour earned money here. Buying a F80 kind of camera every 5 years costs me $1300. If it's value for dollar spent you're fretting about, you could buy two brand-new-in-the-box

Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160

2001-02-17 Thread John Mustarde
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:50:09 -0600, you wrote: *("Rating" film is a slide/BW technique). What I hear him saying is that print film users need to be extra careful, because they can't rescue the negs in the development process. One should know the effects of over and under exposure on a given

Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 10:59:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do know I see a lot of badly underexposed film coming through the lab these days, but I suspect this has more to do with people insisting on buying zoom lens piss and shit cameras with maximum

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread K.Takeshita
on 2/17/01 12:30 PM, Len Paris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember, the steps are: 1. Decide on the important feature that you want in focus. 2. Don't be afraid to tilt or twist the camera until focus is achieved. 3. Hold the shutter button halfway down to lock focus or if your

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread John Mustarde
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 07:19:36 -0800, you wrote: John Mustarde wrote: And with the focus assist beam I can even do it in complete darkness! Does that mean that, in order to focus on a person's eye, you have to put a beam of light into their eye? Yes - if doing it in complete darkness.

Re: printfilm rating - fact or fiction?

2001-02-17 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
TexDance wrote ... Now - is anyone saying that overexposure of color print film does *not* saturate the colors, or that underexposure does *not* increase grain and block up shadows? Exactly my experiences, and this happens, yea, even w/ standard processing. Another factor

Re: Pentax glasses are the WORST (for CdI)

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's one for my permanent atrchives :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread Ralf Engelmann
Mafud wrote: If it's value for dollar spent you're fretting about, you could buy two brand-new-in-the-box PZ-1p bodies and have enough left over to go a long way on a PENTAX tele-extender or flash for the same $1300. I hate these subject shifts in threads. No, No. The point is not how

Re: 50mm F1.2 on e-Bay....

2001-02-17 Thread Bucky
Is USD$200 really a reasonable price for a 50mm lens? I realize it's an f/1.2, but do they generally sell for that? More good glass for you all (I need to get a real job) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Bucky
Ken, that would be interesting to see. Thanks - Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Autofocus Question BTE, on Z-1p, there was a testing on its focus-lock ability on low EV, low

Re: Are Sigma lenses trash??

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
"dosk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "All lens tests are wrong." Maybe. But I would like to know about Sigma, for Pentax k-mounts. If all lens tests are wrong, then all generalizations about an *entire line* of lenses are even more wrong! You'd be better off asking about a specific Sigma lens.

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 11:54:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, it seems that other price classes/camera types will disappear now from the Pentax lineup, and this includes cameras in the technically capable mid class, a class I always have found

Re: 50mm F1.2 on e-Bay....

2001-02-17 Thread dees
actually there's someone currently offering to trade my SMC-K 17mm f4 (fisheye) for his 50mm f1.2. Both lenses are in perfect condition (well, mine is! and of course he says his is too) - and I *am* interested in the f1.2 , especially if I can get one without getting in the red but... isnt the

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Ed Mathews
Answers/comments interspersed: Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Autofocus Question Ed Mathews wrote: Hi Ed ... AF is not for everything, especially for us

RE: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread Len Paris
I vaguely remember this thread and my lack of energy to contribute. But with the world of second hand AF-Nikkor lenses from 1986 to now on offer, nobody will miss anything. Ralf - I'm not sure about that, Ralf. The N80 has an AF-D mount, so it's a pretty good bet that earlier AF

Re: 50/1.2 on eBay

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 12:09:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The guy doing the buying runs all of the risk. Not when you use I-Escrow, the ~only~ way to (I'll) buy "pricey" items.You actually have the item in your mitts for up to two days for testing-etc. Mafud

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ed Sed: Yeah, for focus accuracy, a macro lens should provide better flatness of field and be better. But then you get all those nasty macro problems, like: too sharp; not such great bokeh; slower lens, etc I like "too sharp". The A100/2.8 macro is no slower than the K105/2.8.

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Rofini wrote: Robert Monaghan has an interesting page comparing auto focus with manual focus. Seems rather scathing to the autofocus camp. See: http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/third/af.html This kind of "research" is usually done for justifying some people position and their subjective

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Ralf wrote: Here we are at the topic: Most brands offer different types of cameras for different attitudes. Not at all. Canon basically makes the same camera but at different price points. This is good if you happen to like their philosophy. If not, you're lost. Lately, Nikon has

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Ralf wrote: The answer is still: no. The MZ-S is not a camera for everybody. Not everybody wants smallest size and is willing to pay high prices. Durability is also not everybodies priority, since some want to update their gear regularly in order to enjoy latest technology. This is

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Carlos Royo
Ralf Engelmann wrote: Carlos Royo wrote: Please explain to us what you mean when you write "young and wild camera". ... it (MZ-S) seems to me the kind of camera we have been longing for: light, small, sturdy, with almost every useful feature needed for nearly everyone. That's

OT: WTB, Shutterbug, Feb. '01

2001-02-17 Thread John Edwin Mason
Hi, folks. Does someone have a February 2001 Shutterbug that they'd be willing to part with for a few bucks? Thanks, John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Pl said: I also have a problem with this anal-retentive fascination with focus accuracy. Does anyone really have problem with focusing on normal subjects with "normal" lenses? For this, any reasonable human error is way within DOF for anyone with normal vision, even with the lenses

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi...

2001-02-17 Thread CetusPhoto
In a message dated 2/17/2001 10:41:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [I wrote] 3. OL messages. These are "contributions" to the PDML that have essentially nothing to do with Pentax in specifics nor with photography in general, and therefore, in my humble opinion,

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Ed wrote: But in critical conditions, in every case with every lens and camera used, AF failed to provide enough accuracy to match a carefully manually focused lens when comparing them with lines/mm tests. Sometimes the results were staggering. Sorry for being rude but it isn't personal.

Re: Are Sigma lenses trash??

2001-02-17 Thread dosk
No, there is no such inverse relationship between the cost of the lens and the web site Sigma complainers. In fact, most of the complaints seem to come from advanced amateurs (or "pros") using high end glass, while the defenders are from the lower priced consumer end. (Which is what I said in my

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Carlos Royo
Len Paris wrote: Remember, the steps are: 1. Decide on the important feature that you want in focus. 2. Don't be afraid to tilt or twist the camera until focus is achieved. 3. Hold the shutter button halfway down to lock focus or if your camera has a focus lock button,

PZ-1p

2001-02-17 Thread James Apilado
Hi, A lot of the group own the PZ-1p. What items for the this camera have some of you acquired that make it easy, if that's the term, to use in everyday shooting. I know I can't get an AA adapter for it like I got for my SF1n camera. Some have mentioned a grip that make handling the PZ easier.

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi...

2001-02-17 Thread Frank Theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not trying to say that these topics are not worth discussing. Rather, I am suggesting that this should not be the forum for discussing them. I agree wholeheartedly, despite the fact that I jumped in with my 2 cents worth re: Henry Ford and the Nazis (well,

RE: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi Pl and all Pl wrote: "During the 90's we have almost only seen utterly vision-free cameras. The MZ-S does indeed have direction. Its a strong statement in design and features. Its equally strong statement as the MZ-5 was back in '95. Of course it won't suit all but neither does a camera along

Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mafud Subject: Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160 *("Rating" film is a slide/BW technique). Could you expand on this thought please? Are you saying that people who shoot colour negative films are sloppy about technique? Bill I said nor inferred

Re: Cross Processing - Recovery Possible?

2001-02-17 Thread John Mustarde
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:47:44 -0500, you wrote: Has anyone successfully digitally recovered from this kind of mess ? Is it possible to recover or should I just toss the film and move on? I don't know about every case of cross-processing, but this scan is very close to fully recovered. Don't

Re: Bodies Roll Call UPDATE 59

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 1:20:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But newspapers and other print media are so in love with the sheer speed of digital photography I believe, especially in the newspaper business, digital is here to stay. It's cost effective enough, even if

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 1:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The MZ-S is not a camera for everybody. Ralf, ~you~ of all people, ought not make a snap judgement about a camera you have neither seen or operated and a camera which ~you~ yourself seem to deny, has

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 1:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hence they will accept lower built quality, but will demand moderate prices. Again, speak for yourself, Ralf. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
Gads talk about thread drift. I think we should shut this one down PDQ. - Original Message - From: Mafud Subject: Re: Fast film to go with Porta 160 In a message dated 2/17/01 10:59:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do know I see a lot of badly

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 1:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Durability is also not everybodies priority, Huh?! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability?)

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
Ralf wrote: As far as F80 is concerned - I have enjoyed mine very well...[snip]...I won't complain, since I have bought the F80 exact to have certain features for the lowest possible price...[snip]...So far I had 9 months of good fun with this camera Ralf, Today I took my son to the pet store

Re: Cross Processing - Recovery Possible?

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 17, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Cross Processing - Recovery Possible? What's C-4? Thats the plastique explosive Mark is going to use at the local drug store for willfully wrecking his film. HAR

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 1:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not everybody wants smallest size and is willing to pay high prices. No, Ralf, you must say ~you~ (I) don't want the small size and high prices, particularly since you, Ralf, don't know how small it

Time for a little low-budget Medium Format macro

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
About the only disappointing thing about my experience with the Pentax 645 I purchased this year has been my lack of any means of doing any macro photography. Before buying extension tubes or a macro lens I thought I'd try an achromatic close-up "filter". So last week I scored a 58mm Sigma

Re: Cross Processing - Recovery Possible?

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 17, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Cross Processing - Recovery Possible? I presume you mean E-6. If you can scan it with a blank strip of C-41 film in place, you will get better results. William Robb

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 17, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability) In a message dated 2/17/01 1:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hence they will accept lower

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 2:14:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When considering that the MZ-S fuses MZ-style, Z-1p features, and LX built and finish, its apparent that Pentax is reaching out to the Pentax enthusiasts And, as Micheal Coreleone said: "dragging me

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi...

2001-02-17 Thread dosk
Exactly. Instead of trying to correct the errant behavior of all us screwball OT characters, just set your mail program to delete (or not even download) anything from PDML that has OT in the subject line. (Or perhaps you only like some OT themes and not others? If that's the case, then what

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Ed Mathews
Comments interspersed: Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Pl Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Autofocus Question Ed wrote: But in critical conditions, in every case with every lens and camera used, AF failed

Re: There's OK, Then There's OT, and Then There's OL (was: PDML rewriting hi...

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 2:31:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not trying to say that these topics are not worth discussing. Rather, I am suggesting that this should not be the forum for discussing them. But, what do I know... In every serious

Max 5 posts a day? (Was: There's OK, Then There's OT etc

2001-02-17 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Bob S. wrote: The list is becoming like a chat room with everyone chattering away. I find myself deleting whole threads and all messages from some babblers without even reading them. How about about we agreed on restricting us not to send more than, say 5 messages a day? (The number up

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/17/01 2:34:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, what looks good and sharp at 5x magnification may not look so good at 10x magnification, and may look awful at 16x or 20x Ah, another slide shooter's affectation, looking at things at 10x,

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Ed Mathews
You can be sure it is true. In landscape mode, the center AF area is sensitive only vertical lines, and the two outer AF areas are sensitive only to vertical lines. Turn to portrait mode, and of course that turns to the reciprocal. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita"

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread Ed Mathews
The N80 works fine with all AF lenses, and AI-P lenses. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: RE: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability) I vaguely remember this

MZ-S moderation

2001-02-17 Thread Mike Johnston
I wonder if I might make a gentle general suggestion at this point... Just because the MZ-S specs have finally surfaced, I think we should remember that very few people--certainly very few of us--have actually held one in their hands and looked through it; and, remember that it takes more than

Re: Subject: MZ-S spirit (was: MZ-S with LX durability)

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Mafud wrote: No, Ralf, you must say ~you~ (I) don't want the small size and high prices, particularly since you, Ralf, don't know how small it ~actually~ is or how much it costs. In Ralf's defense, I do think he speaks for himself and we do know how small the MZ-S is and what it cost.

Re: Autofocus Question

2001-02-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Ed wrote: Or should they just ignore it and continue wiping their asses with this information? You should :-) Because you then try to use AF in a situation where manual focus works perfectly well. The point must be to articulate a situation where MF won't work, and MF works any target that

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