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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
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What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS his
earlier strong opposite position in another long thread where I stated
that in general, 35mm
.
jco
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: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:22 PM
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And furthermore, your comments that PENTAX medimum
format lenses resolve quite a bit lower than average
experience.
Paul
On Feb 8, 2007, at 5:33 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
what is the Tav exposure mode( how does it operate)?
jco
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You just cant handle the truth I guess
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:32 PM
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On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Whoopee
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The 45mm is a
very
wide angle on a LARGER format than the hassy you fool.
Anyone with half a brain
We already discussed this. The reason some
of the DA lenses are working better than the FA
counterparts is they are reformulated for narrower
angle of coverage (APS) and hence can be improved
in the limited area they do cover. this is simple
classic optical design because you dont need as
many
All of my comments made in this thread regarding
APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
to format (sensor) size, not feature set
issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether.
jco
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these lenses are not really superb or better
lenses in terms of overall image quality capability,
the DA lenses are actually worse I would venture
to say, they just work
better on the limited size APS format that's all. If you had
a full frame camera that matched what the full
frame lenses can do
There are already full frame digital SLR
cameras on the market today, so I dont
understand how you can say it wont
happen anytime soon based on economics.
I am not saying ALL digital SLRS will
go full frame eventually, I am saying
that I feel eventually all the camera
makers will be offering them
the digital SLR camera market segment is not
about small cheap mass market items, its about
high image quality for the few willing to pay
for it. The digital ps market is about small
cheap cameras for the masses.
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:01 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
the digital SLR camera market segment is not
about small cheap mass market items, its about
high image quality
?
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state
that DSLRS are not cheap small mass market items for the masses,
On October 20, 2004 you called them disposable cameras with a 5 year
life
expectancy
better
and at a price I can still afford. ( although I may sell my 5x7! ).
JCO
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J. C. O'Connell
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Thibouille
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No. you're mistaken.
2007/2/6, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
the digital SLR camera market segment is not
about small cheap mass market items, its about
high image
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
Correct. Nothing has changed since then and I think
you are wrong on the date, I said that in 2006. The DSLR BODIES are
still in the early evolving stage and they ARE disposable in that
sense.
Lets see if I have this right.
You
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William Robb
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Correct. Nothing has
You are an [EMAIL PROTECTED] idiot to post such stupid nonsense. I dont
collect
ancient lenses
and other crap, I like to acquire high quality items regardless
of when they were made. What the the item is, is more important than
when it
was made. You seem to have this mental deficiency that if it
I wasnt worried about the cost of ownership,( this
one I just got only cost $329, the most I can lose
is $329 which certainly is nothing to worry about even
if its dead in the water in a couple years ) I was just
replying that I stated they ( the cameras themselves, not
film costs) were expensive
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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J. C. O'Connell
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I think you are mistaken because full frame
lenses only need
But you wont be able to if you traded away all your Pentax
FF lenses for DA lenses will you without buying them
all over again!
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
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I cant comment on that one, but I think hoya HMC
and tokina RMC lenses are the same thing and I have
several Hoya HMC/ Tokina RMC lenses that are excellent. They made
a really good 28-85 F4, 35-105 F3.5 and 100-300 F5.6
that were identical looking to the tokina RMC versions
and like I said,
Your missing the point once again, a FF camera
wont need all new lenses to beat the best DA/APS
camera combinations. thats the whole advantage of
FF, its nowhere near as critical on lens quality
as APS is to get same or better quality than best
aps possible. Of course better lenses wont hurt,
but
again. You
acted semi-rationally for about three messages so I turned it off,
but that obviously an overly hopeful gesture.
g'day,
Godfrey
On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:16 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Your missing the point once again, a FF camera
wont need all new lenses to beat the best DA/APS
so.
Oh well, I'll just turn my filter back on and ignore you again. You
acted semi-rationally for about three messages so I turned it off,
but that obviously an overly hopeful gesture.
g'day,
Godfrey
On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:16 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Your missing the point once again, a FF
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Your do not care argument does not change
any of the facts in my
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?
JCO: Blow it out your shorts.
G
On Feb 5, 2007, at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote:
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Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
Your do not care argument does not change
any of the facts in my post
You ignore the fact
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:39 PM
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But that's not what this thread was all about.
This thread WAS about
Not rational at all, see my last post.
jco
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Whoa, wait a minute Godders. That way too
I dont understand, current DA lenses wont work on
FF cameras. I think you are not understanding what
FF/DA is all about. The reason DA lenses can work
better on APS digital cameras is they are optimized
for APS only digital format. There is no conclusive evidence
(yet that I have seen) that any
FF would make much more sense to me, the sensor could
be more than doubled in size for very little
overall increase in body and lens size as it
could/will use same lensmount and K mount lenses. 645 would require
a much bigger, bulky, body and non k mount lenses.
jco
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I guess you guys didnt read the whole thread, a poster stated
he was thinking of trading a FA lens for a DA lens and if he
did that then when the FF bodies came out and he wanted to
use them fully, he would be stranded with all his FA to DA trades
compared to if he didnt make those kind of
I think you are mistaken because full frame
lenses only need to have 2/3 the resolution
to MATCH/BEAT DA lenses in terms of overall resolution.
you guys act like pentax and everybody else
just discovered how to make fine lenses and
that all the old FF ones on FF cant beat best new DA
ones on aps.
No info on that one, but I have one I am curious
about, its the Vivitar Series 1 24-70mm lens (I think
its F3.5-4.5) from about 15 years ago? anyone
ever used it on film or digital?
jco
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Aren't any of you guys even the least bit concerned
that if/when Pentax goes to an affordable FF digital slr you will be
stranded with a bunch of DA lenses that cant do FF? When you trade
off a FF lens for a DA lens, you are taking somewhat of a risk
that you might seriously regret it later arent
. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aren't any of you guys even the least bit concerned
that if/when Pentax goes to an affordable FF digital slr you will be
stranded with a bunch of DA lenses that cant do FF?
Slightly, but I don't let that stop me if the DA has a feature that
current 35mm
is headed.
Paul
On Feb 2, 2007, at 11:52 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
The way I see it is if/when they go FF, the value of the really good
classic FF lenses will go up even more while the value of the DA
lenses will go down as demand for them falls off. At this point, I am
not
going to sell any FF
When you say you have these on the SD card in the camera,
does this mean you use these in-camera somehow?
I am confused.
jco
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I used to use an excellent 28-85mm zoom for full frame 35mm
film and that covered about 95% or more of what I needed and quickly.
I always carried a 24mm and a 135mm just in case but hardly
ever needed them. With a wedding you are really pressed to
work fast, and there is no time to be changing
I think I read its possible for user to change
screens on the istDS. Is this true?, is this difficult?
Anybody done this? Curious
I have a bunch of parts bodies I can salvage a split
image screen from and modify ( cut ) to fit if I can install
it myself easy enough without having to
becomes
available for the K10D.
Paul
On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:44 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I think I read its possible for user to change
screens on the istDS. Is this true?, is this difficult? Anybody done
this? Curious I have a bunch of parts bodies I can salvage a split
image screen from
Re: istDS
well, I got my NIMH batteries and SD card,
( card reader) now what software will I need to do
RAW file processing with the istDS camera?
I have photoshop CS and I installed ACR
at some point a while back but I dont know how to
confirm or check the ACR version. What version
of ACR do I
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Subject: Re: what do I need to do RAW file processing with the istDS?
At 11:10 AM 31/01/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I have photoshop CS and I installed ACR
at some point a while back
Thanks for the tips everybody, especially the
part about the DL,DL2, K100D and K110D having
inferior non prism finders, I know I would not want those
at any price.
I found a *istDS for $329.99 new in box with USA warranty and
went with that. NO, it's not want I really want
which would be a much
Yes, I was pleasantly surprised to find these going so for cheap,
I guess the K100D and K100D put a hurting on the earlier models
but its a well kept secret that the K100D and K110D are not
as good in the finder dept. as the D/DS/DS2/K!0D so if that
wasnt so commonly unknown, I doubt the DS would
I think you guys are forgetting the fact that Canon introduced
IS (in-lenses) long before DSLRs even existed and you cant even
do in-body image stabilization with film cameras. So there
was NO debate at the time which was better, in-lenses was
infinately better at the time, because in-body was
Not bad, but if you're familiar with Vincent Van Gogh's
famous version, this is coming up quite a bit short.
Sorry, but you asked for comments, just being honest...
http://home.wxs.nl/~wmt/kraai01.jpg
jco
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know that if and when I
finally get a K10D I'll most likely be keeping my D as a backup, and
selling the DS
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
So what you are saying is the DS2 is the best of
all the pre-K series Pentax DSLR models in all respects?
Or are there somethings it's lacking compared
up less than a year after
the introduction of the full-line of IS Super-Teles. Kodak did make a EF
mount DSLR prior to that, in fact the Canon mount DCS-1 was introduced
the same year as the 75-300 IS USM lens(1995).
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I think you guys are forgetting the fact
items, not mainsteam photo market items.
Yeah, just everybody has a 600/4 tele.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
OK, so change my post to before CANON DSLRS existed. And
all those early DSLRS were extremely expensive,
esoteric, nearly 100% commercial items, not mainsteam photo market
items like
Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have
appox the same internal resistance and its very
low compared to Nicad for example. specifically
what kind of load are you draining them at and what
Anybody quickly know the major
differences between the *istD, DS, DS2?
Is the DS2 better or worse than the DS
or D and in what way?
I know the DL and DL2 have inferior
finders now, but whats the differences
in these other three models?
Is ANY one model of the istD series cameras
better than all
, January 26, 2007 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Differences between the *istD, DS, DS2?
On 1/26/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the DS2 better or worse than the DS
or D and in what way?
The DS2 has a larger LCD screen than the DS. It also incorporated
.
Aestetically, i'd say that the D is the best. All of them work very
well.
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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So what you are saying is the DS2 is the best of
all the pre-K series Pentax DSLR models in all respects?
Or are there somethings it's
I'll ask again, maybe nobody noticed.
What was the sequence of the model release dates?
D, DS, DS2, DL , DL2 or what?
jco
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(the DL2 was in a 2 lens
kit ony, while the DL was body only and the 18-55 kit)
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Yes, you're sequence is correct.
On Jan 26, 2007, at 10:17 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I'll ask again, maybe nobody noticed.
What was the sequence of the model release dates
HUH? I looked thru an istD finder and was shocked
how small (tunnel vision ) the image looked compared to ANY of my
Pentax (full frame) 35mm film bodies. Why are you
comparing them to some of the worst slr finders in this regard
that arent even pentax made models? I agree with graywolf that they
yes but for those of us who dont need
to wear glasses the high eyepoint is
of no value while greater VF magnificaiton
certainly would be for manual focussing and
composition. It would be nice if there was
a choice, via different models or interchangable
viewfinders wouldnt it?
jco
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Actually it's not tied real hard but
in practice there are limits of what can be done
with regards to viewfinder magnification of
a given screen size.
The deal is that if you want to magnify
a small screen to appear larger (case in point
with pentax APS format DSLRS) , the
VF eyepoint
considered the best 35mm finder ever (Matched only by the Leica R8/9)
and the F100 has one of the best finders of an AF SLR (Outdone only by
the F5 and EOS 1v).
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
HUH? I looked thru an istD finder and was shocked
how small (tunnel vision ) the image looked compared
Subject: Re: manually focusing a DSLR
Interchangable finders were nice, but nobody has been buying them in
years. Nikon only kept them as long as they did for traditions sake.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
yes but for those of us who dont need
to wear glasses the high eyepoint
that looks like a good little accessory to
have. Anybody tried one?
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On Jan
image on at least one dimension.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
They arent not the best at VF magnification are they
and magnification is a much more important parameter
with a aps format dslr isnt it?? High eyepoint
is not important to some users at all, especially
those who dont need
off brand off shore made rechargable batteries are
infamous for overstating the capacity. The usa FTC
cant go after them I guess or just dont care to.
I think the best way is to test your batteries
in a systematic way but dont forget that most of
them take about 10 cycles or so to get up to
If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have
appox the same internal resistance and its very
low compared to Nicad for example. specifically
what kind of load are you draining them at and what
is the output voltage of the cells under that load?
Once a nimh drops below the rated voltage of 1.2 VDC
, January 25, 2007 6:50 PM
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Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have
appox the same internal resistance and its very
low compared to Nicad for example. specifically
Feedback participation is purely OPTIONAL on ebay, there are
no ebay rules regarding when and and even if you leave
feedback for the other party on a transaction. The problem
with the so called guideline, there is really no other way
of knowing if the sale is truly complete other than positive
By all means read a good book on the subject. I bought
Pro Techniques of Wedding Photography on HP books ISBN 0-89586-632-3
about 10 years ago and found it enormously helpful for
a whole bunch of things. I dont think you will learn as much
by just watching a pro as you will by a good book written
I forgot to mention, the good wedding photography book I noted in the
last post
quoted below was written by Robert and Sheila Hurth.
JCO
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they engage assistants?
greetings
Markus
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Subject: RE: Asked to do a wedding.
By all means read a good book
When you use any lens on A setting, and set
aperture with the body, there shouldnt
be any variation with fstop related to metering sensitivity
range as you chose smaller fstops, i.e. metering is done wide open
regardless
of selected f stop for the exposure. If you are
getting exposure variation vs
Brits dont have bottoms, they have bums.
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Asked to do a wedding.
On Jan 24, 2007, at 3:25 PM,
meter readings on
the
K10D.
That was the point of the test.
Cheers,
Dave
At 10:40 AM 25/01/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
When you use any lens on A setting, and set
aperture with the body, there shouldnt
be any variation with fstop related to metering sensitivity range as
you chose smaller fstops
Mail List
Subject: Re: A test of meter/exposure calibration between *ist DS and
K10D
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From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: A test of meter/exposure
calibration
between *ist DS and K10D
When you use any lens on A setting, and set
aperture with the body
Tip #5 part B : Never drink any alcohol at all if you are the
hired photographer at a wedding/reception. It's just
like an auto accident, you will be blamed if anything
goes wrong with the photos, even if its not your fault whatsoever if you
were seen drinking any alcohol at all during the event.
stop past its rated
limits of accuracy.
Some variability at the bottom limits of the metering range in any
metering system is quite normal, certainly past is, and the metering
variation is about 0.3 EV. That's very acceptable performance in my
book.
G
On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:56 PM, J. C
I never leave feedback as a seller until I get
positive feedback first from the buyer because
this confirms they got the item and are satisfied
with it and the transaction is completed. If a
seller leaves feedback before the buyer, he
has no recourse for crazy negatives or negative
feedback
NOPE, I think you are wrong in assuming that you should
get feedback first as the buyer just because you paid
for the item in a timely manner. Thats not completing
the purchase, leaving feedback is.
jco
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NOPE, see my earlier posts. sellers
cant leave postives until the buyer
buys, and just paying is not buying.
jco
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:45 PM
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From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: OT- eBay
Actually, I really dont see how feedback can
logically be left in any other sequence, buyer
leaves first, then seller reciprocates.
I'm not following your logic (not surprising).
What you are saying is that it doesn't matter
WRONG- you assume all buyers are like you.
Ebay sellers have to deal with all kinds
of nutty buyers and the deal isnt done
just because they paid.
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:07 PM
WHY WHY WHY do you or other buyers need immediate
positve feedback? Whats the point? Why not be
patient, wait til you get your goods, and when you
do and are satisfied, leave a positive for the seller.
With all the bullshit going on on ebay, I can tell
you that I am delighted when any deal works
WRONG, you are continuing to assume that
all buyers are reasonable and ethical.
Sellers cant give pos FB until the buyer
agrees the deal was good and done by
giving the seller a pos feedback first.
Feedback is for entire completed transactions, not
just listings made or payments sent.
jco
SMC-K 20mm F4 @ $361.00, ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120076284794
I bought one of these in mint condtion (ebay) only
13 months ago for $233. This is typical, I
am seeing vintage Pentax K mount lenses, K, M,
and A series all up about 50% in the last
year or so. My
What's your point in the context of my quote? I dont get it.
jco
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:03 PM
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Subject: Re: OT- eBay
On 24/01/07, J. C
You are the clueless person of the day. EBAY FEEDBACK
is essentially PERMANENT. They will not retract it
for you unless it breaks very strict/narrow ebay rules like giving
personal information away, linking to webpage rants, a court
order is issued to do so, etc. In other words, if someone gives
.
jco
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:41 PM
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Subject: Re: OT- eBay
On 24/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's your point in the context
This makes no sense at all, digital capture has exposure latitude
just like film does which means BOTH overexposure
or underexposure will noticably degrade the image at some
point with most subjects and the widest exposure latitude digital
is still not as wide as the widest exposure latitude
films
I think you are mistaken about the K10D
or any digital camera for that matter
being able to match or surpass the dynamic
range of all color films.
Most of them are rated in the linear
range but the color neg films do have a useful
knee that still captures highlights
without blowing them out and
I think I might have shot the scene going on if
I could do it without being noticed by anyone and
any shots that contained any imagery of the
unfortunate soul I would have just permanently blacked out
with a filled rectangular marquee in photoshop
(even on my originals, thats just too morbid),
52 shots avg. per DAY for 29 months? Thats a quite extreme a bit of
shooting isnt it?
Are you an everyday pro and what are you shooting that much OF? How do
you
even find time to shoot let alone post process that much photos for that
long
a time?
jco
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Have you ever done any contact printing?
All you have to do is match the correct paper
contrast and density of a decent negative
and you can get fantastic results without
the need for any curves adjustment, the
density and contrast adjustments ARE your
levels adjustments.
jco
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Does anyone here honestly believe that a optimized 6MP APS
digital image is going to resolve as well as
an optimal 6x7 image wet printed or well scanned optimal 6x7 image?
Its not even close, do the math, and get your
glasses checked if you think they are the same. Maybe
if you go to full frame
I dont agree that the higher resolution that
medium and large format photography provides
is moot or unnecessary in typical photography
unless you never print anything bigger than
4x6 or never make a web image display larger
than 1200x800 (both being rough numbers).
jco
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My conclusion is that its not very good in absolute terms and even in
a medium size print like 8x10 or 11x14 much improvement
could be seen in the print at higher resolution capture.
For RESOLUTION reference only (not technical or artistic merits,
it has little actally, but I already had it
true, thats all I had scanned to show, go ahead and display one face of
the same size group
from the k10D. I dont think you are going to
get very close to that with any aps image due to
simple lens physics limitations on that small of a format.
jco
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Of
David Savage
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:37 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: Film vs. Digital - not a religion
At 10:50 AM 22/01/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I dont agree that the higher resolution that
medium and large format photography provides
is moot or unnecessary
Illustrates what exactly? Unless he
compares to his best 6x7 or larger results
what is there to see?
jco
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Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:44 PM
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Subject: Re:
I dont think the discussion was limited
to results needed only for the web. If
it was, hell a good point and shoot is
good enough for only that.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:47 PM
Your mistaken here, even the worlds greatest
technical and artistic photographer cant
polish a turd. If the camera/lens combination
doesnt have high enough resolution you simply
cannot achieve the results in large prints
you can with higher than 6MP aps formats..
jco
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