Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-02 Thread John
On 10/1/2015 10:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Bill wrote: So we have a Bosch dishwasher. It's actually done well for us, it's coming up on 11 years old. We bought it because it had the fewest buttons of any machine in the showroom. Anyway, a few years ago it stopped washing

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-02 Thread Larry Colen
John wrote: On 10/1/2015 10:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Bill wrote: Boy did I feel ripped off. No, you paid him $120 to take the time to drive out to your house. Pushing the tube back on, he did that for free. OK, drive out to your house and know to look at the friction fit tube.

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
A former colleague of mine developed an approach to teaching critical-thinking skills. In brief, he would ask the student for the solution to a problem, including a listing of assumptions. He would then tell the student that all of his assumptions were wrong: “so, what else could be going on?”

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-02 Thread Eric Weir
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Itemized bill: > > Hitting the equipment with a hammer:$2 > Knowing where to hit the equipment: $9,998 Yep. -- Eric Weir Decatur,

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-02 Thread steve harley
On 2015-10-01 11:09 , Eric Weir wrote: Not photography-related, but a couple years ago I couldn’t get my furnace to run. I called a friend who works in the industry and does freelance work on the side. He looked at the thermostat, switched it from cool to heat, and the problem was solved. I

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your readingdispleasure.

2015-10-02 Thread Ken Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your readingdispleasure. On 10/1/2015 10:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Bill wrote: So we hav

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your readingdispleasure.

2015-10-02 Thread Bill
On 10/2/2015 6:04 PM, Ken Waller wrote: FWIW A recall was announced regarding a fire hazard with 'recent' Bosch dishwashers - I'd suggest you check it out if you have a 'recently' purchased unit. Google Bosch recall. Thanks. It turns out mine is affected by the recall. -- PDML

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for yourreadingdispleasure.

2015-10-02 Thread Ken Waller
notherdrunken...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for yourreadingdispleasure. On 10/2/2015 6:04 PM, Ken Waller wrote: FWIW A recall was announced regarding a fire hazard with 'recent' Bosch dishwashers - I'd suggest you check it out if you have a 'recently' purcha

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-01 Thread Eric Weir
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:42 AM, J C OConnell wrote: > > I had a similar problem years ago when I first got my DS body and was using > it with manual focus lenses. All of a sudden the shutter would only fire > intermittantly and I was about to return it, and then > I noticed

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:42 AM, J C OConnell wrote: I had a similar problem years ago when I first got my DS body and was using it with manual focus lenses. All of a sudden the shutter would only fire intermittantly and I was about to return it, and then I

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-01 Thread John
On 9/30/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I switched it from "MF" to "AF" the autofocus started working again. Oops, it sure would have been handy to have

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-01 Thread Bill
On 10/1/2015 11:09 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Not photography-related, but a couple years ago I couldn’t get my furnace to run. I called a friend who works in the industry and does freelance work on the side. He looked at the thermostat, switched it from cool to heat, and the problem was solved.

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
Bill wrote: So we have a Bosch dishwasher. It's actually done well for us, it's coming up on 11 years old. We bought it because it had the fewest buttons of any machine in the showroom. Anyway, a few years ago it stopped washing dishes. It made all the right noises, and was definitely pumping

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot! Now officially OT for your reading displeasure.

2015-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
Larry Colen wrote: Bill wrote: So we have a Bosch dishwasher. It's actually done well for us, it's coming up on 11 years old. We bought it because it had the fewest buttons of any machine in the showroom. Anyway, a few years ago it stopped washing dishes. It made all the right noises, and

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-10-01 Thread David Mann
On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:09 am, Eric Weir wrote: > Not photography-related, but a couple years ago I couldn’t get my furnace to > run. I called a friend who works in the industry and does freelance work on > the side. He looked at the thermostat, switched it from cool to

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread paul stenquist
Been there, done that, so I always look first to the switch. You’d think one of us dolts would have mentioned that. Good you found it now though. Paul > On Sep 30, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the

Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Larry Colen
I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I switched it from "MF" to "AF" the autofocus started working again. Oops, it sure would have been handy to have that lens for most of last week. --

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Darren Addy
Larry's already great reputation just went up 50 points with that "confession". :) Thanks for sharing with the class, Larry! On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:29 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > Been there, done that, so I always look first to the switch. You’d think one > of us

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Jack Davis
I wonder what their "repair" bill would have been? J Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken > SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread P.J. Alling
Don't worry Larry, we all knew that. ;-) I'm glad the problem was operator error, it gives me more incentive to buy an SDM lens. I'm also glad for you, but we must keep things in perspective. On 9/30/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread ann sanfedele
join the club :-) ann On 9/30/2015 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I switched it from "MF" to "AF" the autofocus started working again. Oops, it sure would

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Larry Colen
P.J. Alling wrote: Don't worry Larry, we all knew that. ;-) I found what I'm good at and work at excelling. I'm glad the problem was operator error, it gives me more incentive to buy an SDM lens. I'm also glad for you, but we must keep things in perspective. I haven't had any real

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR
is cheaper, but it has to contain some "congratulatory word". So he sends: "Congratulations, you are an idiot!" I'm glad your problem resolved this easily, even though you missed some opportunities. I've had a couple of similar mishaps. Igor Larry Colen Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:45

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Yolanda Rowe
are an idiot!". But then he finds out that a congratulatory > telegram is cheaper, but it has to contain some "congratulatory word". So he > sends: "Congratulations, you are an idiot!" > > I'm glad your problem resolved this easily, even though you missed some &g

Re: *** SPAM ***Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Alan C
So you're now a resident of "ID" ? Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss List ; Nicole Jacque Subject: *** SPAM ***Good news, I'm an idiot! I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread paul stenquist
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: > > On 9/30/2015 8:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Bill wrote: >>> On 9/30/2015 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Bill
On 9/30/2015 9:32 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: On 9/30/2015 8:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Bill wrote: On 9/30/2015 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Bill
On 9/30/2015 8:59 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Bill wrote: On 9/30/2015 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens.

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Bill wrote: > >> On 9/30/2015 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the >> broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I >> switched it from "MF" to

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread J C OConnell
I had a similar problem years ago when I first got my DS body and was using it with manual focus lenses. All of a sudden the shutter would only fire intermittantly and I was about to return it, and then I noticed the AF/MF switch on the body had accidently gotten switched to AF and that was the

Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Bill
On 9/30/2015 1:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was getting my 16-50 ready to ship back to precision to repair the broken SDM when I noticed a slide switch on the side of the lens. When I switched it from "MF" to "AF" the autofocus started working again. Oops, it sure would have been handy to have

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-05 Thread Dave Brooks
Mike Wilson: AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement. and Dave Brooks: My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red.. So there is hope for me yet. Thanks. I'll probably process that roll next week. Cheers, Gautam Here is a link to some of the GFM shots from

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-04 Thread Gautam Sarup
Mike Wilson: AFAIR, the Z1-p does not use IR for film measurement. and Dave Brooks: My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red.. So there is hope for me yet. Thanks. I'll probably process that roll next week. Cheers, Gautam

Re: Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/03 Fri AM 04:21:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm an idiot Scott, You're not the only one around. I have a roll to which I've done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p. Tell me how the results turn out. Cheers

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many times I've tried to chimp when using a film body lately! ;-) As a sign of the times, I don't think my children understand why that doesn't work. These same children

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote: These same children refer to vinyl LPs as big CDs. I feel *very* old. Whats an ell pee?? Now that I think about it, I don't have any pre-recorded music on an analogue medium. I would like to buy a good turntable someday. Most of my

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2/3/06, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many times I've tried to chimp when using a film body lately! ;-) As a sign of the times, I don't

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote: These same children refer to vinyl LPs as big CDs. I feel *very* old. Whats an ell pee?? Now that I think about it, I don't have any pre-recorded music on an analogue medium. I would like

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread David Savage
On 2/3/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Whats an ell pee?? Think of it as audio-film :o) -- Regards, Lucas LOL Ah yes. Prone to scratching, needs to be handled with care etc. etc. Dave

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:05:08 +0100 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2/3/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:34:22 +0100 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Whats an ell pee?? Think of it as audio-film :o) LOL Ah yes. Prone to scratching,

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread dagt
fra: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/3/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, David Savage wrote: These same children refer to vinyl LPs as big CDs. I feel *very* old. Whats an ell pee?? Now that I think about it, I don't have any

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-03 Thread brooksdj
My GFM roll of HIE was shot using my PZ-1, 28-105 and #25 Red.. Turned out fine. I put a piece of aluminum foil, just a hair bigger than the DX window over the window and pressed it into the cavity. Then i put a piece of electrial tape over that. No noticable edge fogging that i could see.

I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally decided to expose it. So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist, attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great out-of-doors. After exposing my very first roll of infrared film I unloaded the camera, in the dark,

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: I'm an idiot So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally decided to expose it. So I loaded it, in the dark, into the *ist, attached a lens and #25 red filter, and headed to the great out-of-doors. After

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Juan Buhler
You know, when I first read your message I thought you had tried to load IR film into an ist D... Now *that* would be idiotic :) I don't know how the ist uses infrared light, but I would develop the film anyway. Maybe you'll just get some spilling on the edge of the frames and the images will be

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/2/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, when I first read your message I thought you had tried to load IR film into an ist D... Now *that* would be idiotic :) Hey, don't put it past me. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold

RE: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many times I've tried to chimp when using a film body lately! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:39 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm an idiot

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Don Sanderson wrote: Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many times I've tried to chimp when using a film body lately! ;-) As a sign of the times, I don't think my children understand why that doesn't work. These same children refer to vinyl LPs as big CDs. I feel *very* old.

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Gautam Sarup
Scott, You're not the only one around. I have a roll to which I've done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p. Tell me how the results turn out. Cheers, Gautam On 2/2/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've had this roll of HIE in the fridge for a while and finally decided to expose

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread Scott Loveless
Will do. I'm going to process it just to see how bad it is. On 2/2/06, Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, You're not the only one around. I have a roll to which I've done exactly the same thing in a PZ-1p. Tell me how the results turn out. Cheers, Gautam On 2/2/06, Scott

Re: I'm an idiot

2006-02-02 Thread David Mann
On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: Don't feel bad Scott, you have no idea how many times I've tried to chimp when using a film body lately! ;-) I've been known to reach for the film advance on the Z-1p... almost as many times as I've forgotten to advance the film on my manual

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: Pretty simple to make K lenses act like that. Just remove, permanently or temporarily, the aperture actuator lever. Voila', stop down Av! I've done this to an M50/1.4, works fine. Har, another soul who's 'had the op' ;-))) Cheers,

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread John Forbes
Agreed. K and M lenses are much easier to use than screw-mounts - unless you use them wide open. John On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:45:23 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My use of non-A K lenses has never been limited. I use them extensively and effectively. I have no problem

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
I'd have to say it's exactly the opposite on the DSLR's. The M42's are easier to use than the K/M lenses, unless you're shooting wide open. Although you still need to use the DoF preview/green button to meter in manual with the M42's. -Adam John Forbes wrote: Agreed. K and M lenses are

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Not only do you still need the green button, but you have to attach an adapter as well. K and M lenses are much easier to use on the DSLR cameras. Adapter = pain in the butt. Paul On Jan 2, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I'd have to say it's exactly the opposite on the DSLR's. The M42's

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Glen
At 02:48 PM 1/2/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Not only do you still need the green button, but you have to attach an adapter as well. K and M lenses are much easier to use on the DSLR cameras. Adapter = pain in the butt. Paul I've never used a screw-mount adapter. If you have multiple

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Mike Lambert
Glen, I've just joined the list, and coincidently this is something I've been going through myself recently. There are two adaptors that are the most common - M42 and T2 Basically these are just metal rings that allow you to connect older lenses to modern cameras. (But by doing so you might

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, only one adapter is needed. It attaches to the camera body and stays there unless you decide to remove it. There's a clip that holds it securely to the K-mount. Then the lenses just screw in and out. NBD, imo. Shel [Original Message] From: Glen I've never used a screw-mount

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Jan 2006 at 15:10, Glen wrote: I've never used a screw-mount adapter. If you have multiple screw-mount lenses do you buy an adapter for each one, or do most people use a single adapter and keep switching them between screw-mount lenses? Assuming the screw-mount adapter stays on the

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Scott Loveless
It's interesting to note that since the *ist (film body) has no green button, there is no metering at all in manual. All other settings are effectively aperture priority as is, I'm assuming, the digital bodies. On 1/2/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd have to say it's exactly the

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Scott Loveless
The adapter stays on the camera. It's impossible to remove the adapter until you have unscrewed the lens. On 1/2/06, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used a screw-mount adapter. If you have multiple screw-mount lenses do you buy an adapter for each one, or do most people use a single

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
are not A compatible. jco -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot On 2 Jan 2006 at 15:10, Glen wrote: I've never used a screw-mount adapter. If you have

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 1, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: It just occurred to me a couple weeks ago to put a screw mount lens on my *ist film body. Can anyone else say aperture priority? Feel free to point at me and laugh. I suddenly feel a multiple M42 lens enablement coming on. Can't say as I'd

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Don Sanderson
button the setting stays put until _I_ tell it otherwise, I like that. Don -Original Message- From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot that's interesting

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:03 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot I'm more of a Green Button Advocate than apologist. Even if full K compatibility was added I'd still use the green button as I do

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Fred
I don't think pentax ever made a SLR that had K/M aperture priority AE without some sort of AE lock or at least AE compensation to go along with it... I agree that it's pretty rare (and that it's pretty limiting, too), but I do think that the MG, the MV, and the MV1 all had AE with no lock and

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:01 PM To: J. C. O'Connell Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot I don't think pentax ever made a SLR that had K/M aperture priority AE without some sort of AE lock or at least AE compensation to go along with it... I agree

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
Glen wrote: At 02:48 PM 1/2/2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Not only do you still need the green button, but you have to attach an adapter as well. K and M lenses are much easier to use on the DSLR cameras. Adapter = pain in the butt. Paul I've never used a screw-mount adapter. If you have

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
Rotate the lens/adaptor combo 1/3 further to remove. Note this trick ONLY works on the cameras that lack the aperture simulator (It will badly break cameras that have the aperture simulator if tried). -Adam Scott Loveless wrote: The adapter stays on the camera. It's impossible to remove

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
With the *ist's, you can just rotate the adaptor further to remove, since the slower removal technique is intended for bodies with the aperture simulator. I've no issue in mounting and removing lenses with the adaptor staying on the lens. This is in fact the way the adaptor normally stays, as

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread P. J. Alling
- From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:21 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot that's interesting, your in complete opposition to the green button apologists who insist it's easy and not a big deal

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot If you wished to fix a screw adaptor on each of your screw lenses you'd need to remove the adaptor locking flange and fabricate a locking pin hole on each lens assembly that mimics

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Jan 2006 at 20:21, J. C. O'Connell wrote: that's interesting, your in complete opposition to the green button apologists who insist it's easy and not a big deal. What I want is a higher model that supports all kmount lenses fully. That would be nice feature, especially when you consider

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
But don't you still have to switch to auto to open the aperture for focusing? You certainly don't try to focus with the lens stopped down?? I don't see what's easy about using the screwmount lenses. Paul On Jan 2, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Glen wrote: At 02:48 PM 1/2/2006, Paul

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:37 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot But don't you still have to switch to auto to open the aperture for focusing? You certainly

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Jan 2006 at 21:32, William Robb wrote: I did a locking adaptor on my 17mm Fishy Tak. I don't know if all the Taks are built thusly, but I took the lock spring off an adaptor, then used the screw to lock the adaptor to the lens, marked the back of the lens where the lock pin would be

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
I do actually focus often with the lens stopped down. As I tend to shoot at f5.6 and wider, this isn't a huge deal. If I need to stop down more, I usually discover that after focusing. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: But don't you still have to switch to auto to open the aperture for

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Scott Loveless
Flipping the auto/manual switch, pressing the green button, six of one Compared to using K/M lenses on the *ist (once again, film body), the M42s are heaven. If the *ist had an aperture simulator or something similar to the green button I'd definitely use the non-A lenses. Fact is,

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
Rob Studdert wrote: On 2 Jan 2006 at 20:21, J. C. O'Connell wrote: that's interesting, your in complete opposition to the green button apologists who insist it's easy and not a big deal. What I want is a higher model that supports all kmount lenses fully. That would be nice feature,

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Fred
If Pentax is trying to move on from supporting obsolete lenses, or if they're trying to force me to upgrade to newer lenses, they have succeeded only in encouraging me to buy even older lenses. g Har !!! Fred

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot I do actually focus often with the lens stopped down. As I tend to shoot at f5.6 and wider, this isn't a huge deal. If I need to stop down more, I usually discover that after focusing. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: But don't you still

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-02 Thread Adam Maas
bodies for M42 lenses just to get the auto aperture feature which dates back to about 1960. jco -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:57 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot I do

M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
It just occurred to me a couple weeks ago to put a screw mount lens on my *ist film body. Can anyone else say aperture priority? Feel free to point at me and laugh. I suddenly feel a multiple M42 lens enablement coming on. The sad part, and this was mentioned very recently in another thread,

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Scott Loveless wrote: The sad part, and this was mentioned very recently in another thread, is that the crippled mount limits the use of non-A K-mount lenses while the old screw mounts work just fine. What the hell were they thinking? Well, you get the Av with M42s for

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Don Sanderson
PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot It just occurred to me a couple weeks ago to put a screw mount lens on my *ist film body. Can anyone else say aperture priority? Feel free to point at me and laugh. I suddenly feel a multiple M42 lens

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Don Sanderson
BTW: How many are old enough (like me) to still remember how to Count the Clicks? ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:28 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
My use of non-A K lenses has never been limited. I use them extensively and effectively. I have no problem pushing a button to get a meter reading. But then I started with nothing but manual cameras. To me, having an on-board meter is a luxury. I've used M-42 lenses as well. The adapter makes

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
, the aperture actuator lever. Voila', stop down Av! I've done this to an M50/1.4, works fine. Don -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:17 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
:28 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot Pretty simple to make K lenses act like that. Just remove, permanently or temporarily, the aperture actuator lever. Voila', stop down Av! I've done this to an M50/1.4, works fine. Don -Original

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
That was me mentioning how well M42 lenses work on DSLR's. And the film *ist should be no different for that. Cost savings. The M42 lenses just need metering, the K/M lenses need hardware that the M42 and KA and later lenses don't require. I'm up to two M42 lenses, and looking at more. I

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
Mine has been, but I like Aperture priority a lot, and that is limited. I still use them, and the majority of my lenses are either K or M42 (I currently have 2 AF lenses, one of which is a DA, 2 K/M's and 2 M42's). -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: My use of non-A K lenses has never been limited.

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Mat Maessen
I bought a vivitar 20/3.8 in M42 mount for about $45 about 6 months ago. Not the greatest lens, but it works, and the price was right. :-) I also have a Jupiter-9 85/2 in M42 mount. Once again, not the sharpest tool in the shed, but a very nice bokeh for people pictures. Now if I could only afford

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
There is no green button on the *ist. That means non-A lenses have metering only for the widest aperture. I simply discovered the ease of using screw mount lenses with this camera. I'm fairly happy at this point. On 1/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My use of non-A K lenses has

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/1/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was me mentioning how well M42 lenses work on DSLR's. And the film *ist should be no different for that. Thanks Adam. I had forgotten who made the comment. The film *ist is no different when it comes to M42 lenses. Cost savings. The M42

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Don Sanderson
the D, they're In the bag. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:46 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot Only problem with that is some of us still use old K bodies

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
I'm thinking a Carl Zeiss Jena 20/2.8 MC Flektogon is the way to go for now. $200-ish on eBay. And Super-Tak 85/1.9's are not too much more. but I can be a real snob about glass in some cases (I'm a little hesitant to buy russian glass, poor QC). -Adam Mat Maessen wrote: I bought a

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Mat Maessen
On 1/1/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking a Carl Zeiss Jena 20/2.8 MC Flektogon is the way to go for now. $200-ish on eBay. And Super-Tak 85/1.9's are not too much more. but I can be a real snob about glass in some cases (I'm a little hesitant to buy russian glass, poor QC).

Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot Only problem with that is some of us still use old K bodies, and it would be a bit of a pain to swap the lever in and out. If I didn't have my MX, I'd seriously consider it. -Adam Don Sanderson wrote: Pretty

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Don Sanderson
Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot I bought a vivitar 20/3.8 in M42 mount for about $45 about 6 months ago. Not the greatest lens, but it works, and the price was right. :-) I also have a Jupiter-9 85/2 in M42 mount. Once again, not the sharpest tool in the shed, but a very

RE: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

2006-01-01 Thread Don Sanderson
with. A really scratched up 58 makes a cool soft focus lens though! Sandblaster anyone? ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:31 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: M42 lenses on *ist bodies, or, I'm an idiot

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