Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-20 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Ooops, just realised that wasn't for a Pentax version, sorry to get you all excited there! lol.. tan. - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: Re: TTL flash with the *ist D Here ya go

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-20 Thread Andre Langevin
Anthony Farr wrote: gallium arsenide phosphide cells have fast response but I don't know of any GPDs in flash metering applications, perhaps they're not quick enough. Super-Program uses a GPD cell and has TTL flash metering. But does it work as good as LX's SPD cell? Andre

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-20 Thread Peter J. Alling
About the same. If the circuitry is properly designed. Andre Langevin wrote: Anthony Farr wrote: gallium arsenide phosphide cells have fast response but I don't know of any GPDs in flash metering applications, perhaps they're not quick enough. Super-Program uses a GPD cell and has TTL

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-20 Thread Anthony Farr
: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: gallium arsenide phosphide cells have fast response but I don't know of any GPDs in flash metering applications, perhaps they're not quick enough. Super-Program uses a GPD cell and has TTL flash metering. But does it work as good as LX's

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread mapson
So...has anyone found a shoe-mounted flash that will do ordinary TTL with the *ist D, at the full ISO range? I mean, one that works about like it would on a 35 mm. body without glaring exposure problems. There is a new Sigma coming out (just waiting to get it in the shops). Apparently it is

RE: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread Jens Bladt
Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. april 2004 17:30 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: TTL flash with the *ist D So...has anyone found a shoe-mounted flash that will do ordinary TTL

RE: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread Jens Bladt
BTW, I would be surprised if the AF500FTZ didn't perform ordenary TTL with *ist D? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. april 2004 17:57 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: TTL flash

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread John Forbes
I agree. I have the AF400FTZ and the AF240FT, and they are both hopeless with the *ist D. Sadly, the problem is not consistent, so you can't reliably compensate for it. What does work well, for me, is the AF240Z, which is a smallish dedicated, non-TTL, flash with zoom, bounce and swivel

RE: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread Jens Bladt
...I wonder why they can't seem to cut off the flash light at the right time?. This isn't exactly new technology - at least 20 years old. Jens The nature of DSLR's in general seems to be weak TTL flash. I have heard the same complaint from both Nikon and Canon users. Jens Bladt mailto

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread graywolf
?. This isn't exactly new technology - at least 20 years old. Jens The nature of DSLR's in general seems to be weak TTL flash. I have heard the same complaint from both Nikon and Canon users. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra

Re: TTL flash with the *ist D

2004-04-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/19/2004 7:36:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert wrote: There is a new Sigma coming out (just waiting to get it in the shops). Apparently it is designed for digital. When it comes here I am getting it - will let you know what I think of its

LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
a flash (Vivitar 3700) with which to exploit my LX's ttl flash metering capabilities. Two questions: 1) In the LX manual, it says that for Pentax ttl flashes, if I leave the shutter speed dial at Automatic, put the flash on the camera and turn the flash on, the camera will automatically set

Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread Steve Larson
, California - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:57 AM Subject: LX ttl flash metering questions Omigod! Frank's posting an actual, honest-to-goodness On Topic Pentax Question!! I'm so used to putting OT

Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
, IMHO. Tanx for the info! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: LX ttl flash metering questions am I to assume that I can leave the shutter speed dial at Auto and not worry about changing the speed to x every time I put the flash on? If so, cool! Yes. It's also a good way to know when

Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
, it seems almost automatic to do so. Okay, now that you've all gotten back in the chairs that you just fell out of, here goes. You may recall that I recently got a flash (Vivitar 3700) with which to exploit my LX's ttl flash metering capabilities. Two questions: 1) In the LX manual, it says

Re: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all In MANUAL mode, the PZ-1/PZ-1p the TTL-flash metering works - even though this is not mentioned in the instruction manual! Does MZ-S work the same way, I wonder? Anyone

RE: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-13 Thread Frits Wüthrich
] Sendt: 12. februar 2004 13:51 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all In MANUAL mode, the PZ-1/PZ-1p the TTL-flash metering

TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi all In MANUAL mode, the PZ-1/PZ-1p the TTL-flash metering works - even though this is not mentioned in the instruction manual! Does MZ-S work the same way, I wonder? Anyone knows? Best Regards Jens

Re: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-12 Thread Frits Wüthrich
the TTL-flash metering works - even though this is not mentioned in the instruction manual! Does MZ-S work the same way, I wonder? Anyone knows? Best Regards Jens -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-12 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Jens Bladt wrote: Hi all In MANUAL mode, the PZ-1/PZ-1p the TTL-flash metering works - even though this is not mentioned in the instruction manual! Does MZ-S work the same way, I wonder? Anyone knows? TTL flash metering works with all cameras in manual mode - I think. Certainly

Re: TTL flash in Manual Mode MZ-S and PZ-1/PZ-1p

2004-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all In MANUAL mode, the PZ-1/PZ-1p the TTL-flash metering works - even though this is not mentioned in the instruction manual! Does MZ-S work the same way, I wonder? Anyone knows? Yes, the MZ-S works the same way. In fact, you can do flash exposure

Calculating TTL Flash Coverage/Lens Conflict

2003-10-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
My (second) Tokina AT-X AF Pro 28-80 f2.8 is a superbly sharp lens. It's only problem is that, because of its bulk, I have lost the use of my pop-up flash when this lens is on. Tamron has come out with a new 28-75 f2.8 that has been quite well reviewed. It, too, is apparently very sharp. It is

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-29 Thread Cotty
Why, that's one comment that rock the fort. H! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Cotty
Cotty wrote; Bo-Ming, I have never handled the *ist D, I have never even seen one aside from pics on the net, but I can categorically say that it will not, can not, have TTL-OTF metering. Not unless you pry the thing apart and jam a piece of Velvia in front of the sensor :-) I think you

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Thomas Stach a écrit: Hi, listening to all these discussions about flashed and the *ist-D I wonder: Will the internal flash support P-TTL? I am a proud owner of the MZ-S for a few days now (replacing my K2dmd...) and found it a little bizarre that the internal flash does NOT support this

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Frits Wuthrich
What exactly is P-TTL? Is it a TTL with a pre flash to determine the flash setting ahead of the main flash burst? With the TTL I have on my PZ-1 this is done during the flash burst. What is the advantage of P-TTL? On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 07:02, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Thomas Stach a écrit: Hi,

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Frits Wuthrich a écrit: What exactly is P-TTL? Is it a TTL with a pre flash to determine the flash setting ahead of the Yes, it work with a pre flash so the real light is measured by the cell. main flash burst? With the TTL I have on my PZ-1 this is done during the flash burst. What is the

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
I think you should jam a piece of Velveeta® in front of the sensor. Then you would have the perfect camera for shooting cheesy pictures. :) Or use blue cheese to automatically color-correct for incandescent lighting! (Perhaps some Brie or Norwegian Jarlsburger or Stilton or Cheshire or...

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-28 Thread Jostein
Why, that's one comment that rock the fort. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: Re: *ist D + TTL

*ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread cyberstudio
Sorry if this has been discussed before but for those of you who have handled the *ist D, is it the case that there is no TTL-OTF flash metering at all and none of my TTL flashes from Metz, Sunpak or Vivitar would work in TTL mode ? Thanks. -- Bo-Ming Tong

RE: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Owens
I'm kinda ignorant about such things, but I would guess maybe they would. It does have a PC socket Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D + TTL flash = ? Sorry if this has

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread cyberstudio
I checked out the Metz SCA3702. It does NOT support P-TTL flash. I do NOT expect it to function with any kind of TTL flash metering on *ist D. I'd expect the *ist D to be like Canon and requires preflash to meter flash exposures until I am corrected otherwise. I bet Metz would have a M2 version

*ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Cotty
Sorry if this has been discussed before but for those of you who have handled the *ist D, is it the case that there is no TTL-OTF flash metering at all Bo-Ming, I have never handled the *ist D, I have never even seen one aside from pics on the net, but I can categorically say that it will not,

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Thomas Stach
the reason may be, I wouldn't expect the *ist-D to do it different. Should I? Cheers, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I checked out the Metz SCA3702. It does NOT support P-TTL flash. I do NOT expect it to function with any kind of TTL flash metering on *ist D. I'd expect the *ist D to be like

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: *ist D + TTL flash = ? Bo-Ming, I have never handled the *ist D, I have never even seen one aside from pics on the net, but I can categorically say

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Cotty wrote: aside from pics on the net, but I can categorically say that it will not, can not, have TTL-OTF metering. Will not - true; Pentax has chosen not to support OTF-TTL flash. But technically, there is no reason why it cannot be done. It is left out mainly for cost

RE: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Owens
flash = ? On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Cotty wrote: aside from pics on the net, but I can categorically say that it will not, can not, have TTL-OTF metering. Will not - true; Pentax has chosen not to support OTF-TTL flash. But technically, there is no reason why it cannot be done. It is left out

Re: *ist D + TTL flash = ?

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the Fujifilm S2Pro supports OTF or Off-The-CCD TTL flash as well as pre-flash TTL flash; while ironically, none of the Nikon DSLRs does. Now *that's* interesting. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Manual focus TTL flash

2003-07-13 Thread Bo-Ming Tong
Which manual focus Pentax bodies support TTL flash ? So far I have only found LX and Super A/Super Program. Did I miss any other ?

Re: Manual focus TTL flash

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Chan
Did I miss any other ? No. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Re: Manual focus TTL flash

2003-07-13 Thread Rfsindg
Nothing else until you get to autofocus Pentax... Bob S. In a message dated 7/13/03 2:03:20 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which manual focus Pentax bodies support TTL flash ? So far I have only found LX and Super A/Super Program. Did I miss any other ?

Re: Manual focus TTL flash

2003-07-13 Thread Lon Williamson
It's a short list, and I think you named both. Lottsa griping here on PDML from time to time because they should have put it on the ZX-M, too. Bo-Ming Tong wrote: Which manual focus Pentax bodies support TTL flash ? So far I have only found LX and Super A/Super Program. Did I miss any other ?

Re: Manual focus TTL flash

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Chan
It's a short list, and I think you named both. Lottsa griping here on PDML from time to time because they should have put it on the ZX-M, too. The #1 Pentax rule applies again - no Pentax camera should be too perfect. :-) regards, Alan Chan

Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Butch Black
Hi, I have a Pentax dedicated vivitar flash with TTL capabilities. Does the Z-1P allow TTL with K and M series lenses? I tried a quick test last night with a K 35/3.5 and would get the green auto exposure OK light on the flash to come on only up to F 5.6 even though I was 6 ft away from the

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Joe Wilensky
It's always problematic to test TTL flash with no film in the camera. Since the sensor is measuring light reflected off the film, it's measuring what would seem to be a reduced amount of light reflecting off the black pressure plate instead. I don't think there's any problem using TTL flash

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Joe Wilensky wrote: It's always problematic to test TTL flash with no film in the camera. Since the sensor is measuring light reflected off the film, it's measuring what would seem to be a reduced amount of light reflecting off the black pressure plate instead. I may be wrong but I do

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Joe Wilensky
(and thus truly is a horse of a different color)! The Z-1p, and the other non-LX Pentax cameras with TTL flash capabilities, still use either centerweighted, spot, or segmented metering for determining the ambient light exposure. The TTL metering cell is only used for TTL metering, which pretty

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may be wrong but I do not recall the Pz-1p having OTF metering That's totally different from TTL TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Mark Roberts wrote: TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of the mirror box as you look in without a lens mounted). Brain fart. :-) Later, Gary

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Mark Roberts a écrit: ... TTL metering is done off the film. There's a sensor in the mirror box that points back toward the film plane (on the PZ-1p it's on the right side of the mirror box as you look in without a lens mounted). Yes, and on the MZ-S the sensor is under the mirror, before the AF

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
, for years I didn't know how TTL flash worked at all. I posted some questions on rec.photo.equipment.35mm and got several detailed answers... *all* of which covered everything *except* the fact that the camera is metering off the film during the exposure! And, of course, without this piece

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Alan Chan
If I am correct, the TTL flash metering of Z-1p can do centre-weighted only (unlike Nikon where you can choose whatever metering you liked for TTL flash), similar to Super A/Program. The TTL flash sensor is located on the side of the mirror box. However, I could be wrong. The manual doesn't

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-06 Thread Gary L. Murphy
Mark Roberts wrote: Hey, for years I didn't know how TTL flash worked at all. I posted some questions on rec.photo.equipment.35mm and got several detailed answers... *all* of which covered everything *except* the fact that the camera is metering off the film during the exposure! And, of course

Re: Z-1P and TTL flash with pre-A lenses

2003-06-05 Thread Peter Alling
If flash TTL works the same with the Z-1p as with the LX, (and I think it does), your camera is reading severe under exposure with no film, reading the reflected light off the pressure plate. At 09:13 AM 6/5/03 -0400, you wrote: Hi, I have a Pentax dedicated vivitar flash with TTL

Film reflectivity TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Andre Langevin
http://www.markcassino.com/essays/ttlflash.htm Mark, I found your article on TTL reflectivity of films that points an underexposure problem with Kodachrome and TTL flash. My TTL flash photos with KR have been often a bit over saturated or almost perfect on stage where the black surrounding

Re: Film reflectivity TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Caveman
Andre Langevin wrote: This must have been discussed at lenght a few times on the PDML, but is there any table available with reflectivity of current films? I don't know about such table, and even if one existed, it would give you just a starting point for further experimenting. What I know is

Re: Film reflectivity TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Cassino
with other films. I have not checked to see if this is still an issue with P-TTL flash. I suspect that it is not, since the TTL flash exposure is determined by the pre-flash. - MCC At 07:18 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, Andre Langevin wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/essays/ttlflash.htm Mark, I found

Re: Film reflectivity TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Cassino
At 09:08 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, Caveman wrote: What I know is that ISO speed is just a (usually good) starting point for your calibration of the camera - processing lab system. With an LX, film reflectivity influences all my pics, flash or not... Actually, it would only influence shots taken at

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is a similar situation to the one with the N80. TTL flash metering works fine with non-CPU lenses, since it measures actual light and doesn't know/care anything about the lens setting. I use manual mode to set shutter speed and aperture, based on experience, to pick up some ambient

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread pentax
Hello Stefan, Stefan Ittner wrote: There seems to be a consensus in this group that the *ist will be able to to work with M-lenses if the exposure is adjusted when not shot wide open (e.g. 2.8 lens shot at 5.6 = tell camera to overexpose by 2 stops). But what about flash pictures shot in TTL

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread Stefan Ittner
images. Thanks for your answer, Boz! My MZ-7 manual also says that in manual mode, the foreground is always correctly exposed by the TTL flash, while the background is dependent on the manual settings. I have also heard that by setting the exposure manually and changing the ISO setting (e.g

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread Stefan Ittner
Bruce wrote: This is a similar situation to the one with the N80. TTL flash metering works fine with non-CPU lenses, since it measures actual light and doesn't know/care anything about the lens setting. I use manual mode to set shutter speed and aperture, based on experience, to pick up

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread Arnold Stark
Boz wrote: Back to Arnold Stark's idea. If the *ist does DOF properly with K and M lenses and is able to combine DOF preview with exp. lock, then even most of the inconvenience of the crippled mount is solved. You simply press exp. lock WHILE HOLDING the DOF preview button. This is a great

Re: *ist and TTL flash exposure with M-lenses

2003-03-24 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
From up close and personal/first hand/I own the camera experience: - Ambient light meter will not even turn on with a non-CPU lens - TTL flash works perfect with non-CPU lenses Exposure will be fine if the flash is providing the main light. If the ambient light levels are high enough

Re: Amazing discovery about M lens with TTL flash

2003-02-17 Thread Alin Flaider
Alan wrote: ACI always thought the camera was able to determine the exact aperture AC only with F FA lenes, when the lens was not set to 'A'. Obviousely I was AC wrong. The camera has everything it needs to determine the right aperture with an A lens (or a masked mount M / K for that

Amazing discovery about M lens with TTL flash

2003-02-16 Thread Alan Chan
Just mounted my masking-taped M135/3.5 (to simulate 'A' lenses) to the Z-1p with Metz 40MZ3i (SCA3701) flash at TTL mode. Just when I was trying to figure out how much flash output I needed, I discovered the flash was able to read the exact chosen aperture on the 'M' lens. This is amazing!! (to

Re: Amazing discovery about M lens with TTL flash

2003-02-16 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It reads the aperture via the mechanical coupling between the lens and body. This is the same way it's been doing it since open aperture TTL ambient metering was invented. The actual exposure is determined by the amount of light that the meter reads being reflected off the film during the

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-31 Thread Cotty
My guess would be something like this for film cameras... Because the camera gets to 1/1,000 or 1/4,000 of a second exposure by using a narrower and narrower slit that travels across the face of the film (1st to 2nd shutter curtain distance), I would pulse the flash. Say I used 200 (or 2,000)

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Peter Alling
% grey. Distance is un-important it's the amount of light reaching the film. At 07:35 PM 12/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Here's a question I've been pondering lately: How, exactly, does TTL flash metering work? Obviously, the light meter in the camera takes readings through the lens and passes

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Cotty
Think of it like this. Your flash has only one brightness level, not like a three way lamp in your house. It always puts out light at the same rate. TTL simply controls how long the lamp stays on. If the object is close by, the lamp is shut off quickly thru the marvels of electronics. The

Re: Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread David Brooks
Humm. Thanks Cotty.I think you may have answered part of my fill flash question i just asked on the list.(not all but partG) BTW is that picture from the D60? Dave Begin Original Message From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only thing I would add to Bob's explanation is that some flash

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Rfsindg
Cotty, Good addition. I think this is how anybody doing Matrix Metered TTL flash must operate. What is amazing is the time scales here. 1/10,000's of a second look like minutes to the electronics. So they light the scene, take a meter reading, evaluate it, and then set the appropriate power

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think of it like this. Your flash has only one brightness level, not like a three way lamp in your house. It always puts out light at the same rate. TTL simply controls how long the lamp stays on. If the object is close by, the lamp is shut off quickly thru the

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Herb Chong wrote: So what I'm wondering is, how does TTL flash work without the flash having any information about the distance to the objects being illuminated? it does on an AF body. the camera knows how far away it focused

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
is taken while the mirror is up? I assume then that we're talking about a camera that does off-the-film metering. I'm concerned with how TTL flash metering works in my PZ-1p and MZ-S, neither of which do OTF metering or a pre-shutter-firing test flash (I believe this is P-TTL with the AF360FTG), yet

Vs: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 14:43 Aihe: Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got it. The TTL reading is taken while the mirror is up. Your PZ-1p and MZ-S both do just that. Although I don't believe either

Vs: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
The MZ-S manual is a bit unclear about this but the sensors are all facing the film - TTL flash is difficult to realise without OTF. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Cotty
What is amazing is the time scales here. 1/10,000's of a second look like minutes to the electronics. So they light the scene, take a meter reading, evaluate it, and then set the appropriate power output. All in the twinkle of an eye. Hi Bob. Yah. It's serious stuff, isn't it! Aside from

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Cotty
So a TTL reading is taken while the mirror is up? I assume then that we're talking about a camera that does off-the-film metering. I'm concerned with how TTL flash metering works in my PZ-1p and MZ-S, neither of which do OTF metering or a pre-shutter-firing test flash (I believe this is P-TTL

Vs: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 16:47 Aihe: Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering? What is amazing is the time scales here. 1/10,000's of a second look like minutes to the electronics. So they light the scene, take a meter reading, evaluate it, and then set the appropriate power output. All

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Rfsindg
Cotty, I can't say for sure how high speed synchro flash modes work. My guess would be something like this for film cameras... Because the camera gets to 1/1,000 or 1/4,000 of a second exposure by using a narrower and narrower slit that travels across the face of the film (1st to 2nd shutter

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Cotty
Hi Lon, The only thing I would add to Bob's explanation is that some flash units will allow a flash setting (usually manual) that provides for a flash burst with reduced intensity, say about a quarter-power if you like. The AF280T is a good example with the H and L settings on manual. Cotty,

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-30 Thread Lawrence Kwan
) the second flash fires and continues to fire while the For P-TTL, the first pre-flash occurs *before* the mirror swings up. It uses the viewfinder's 6 segment metering to calculate the exposure (not possible once the mirror swings up); and the usual off-the-film TTL flash sensor in the mirror

Re[2]: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! May I say a word, though you turn to Lon? Thanks :). I happen to own ZX-L. I am not very good in flash photography so I skip the flash part. As for the older lenses, ZX-L accepts all, I repeat, all K-mount lenses. Naturally if the lens does not have A on it, you will loose some of the

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Lon Williamson
By all means, Boris Grin. I find I can help so rarely in here that when I can, I go overboard. Wifey, BTW, _loves_ her ZX-L. Even the complications (lotsa stuff for a mid-to-low-level cost). Listen to Boris. He SHOOTS with it. Boris Liberman wrote: May I say a word, though you turn

Re[2]: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Chris Brogden
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Boris Liberman wrote: I happen to own ZX-L. I am not very good in flash photography so I skip the flash part. As for the older lenses, ZX-L accepts all, I repeat, all K-mount lenses. Essentially true, but with one big caveat. Some older third-party lenses may lock onto

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread William Kane
Chris, The lens you had trouble with was indoubtably a PKA/R mount. The R part of the mount is indeed the flange that gets stuck in the Pentax power zoom contact. THe R prart, if I remember right, was created by Rioch when they adapted the K-mount to their camera's prior to the Pentax AF

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Here's a question I've been pondering lately: How, exactly, does TTL flash metering work? Obviously, the light meter in the camera takes readings through the lens and passes that information to the flash. But flash exposure is very dependent on distance. For any given flash output really close

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So what I'm wondering is, how does TTL flash work without the flash having any information about the distance to the objects being illuminated? it does on an AF body. the camera knows how far away it focused on something. Herb

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-29 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Herb Chong wrote: So what I'm wondering is, how does TTL flash work without the flash having any information about the distance to the objects being illuminated? it does on an AF body. the camera knows how far away it focused on something. But this distance info

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I have three bodies: Super Program (TTL); Ricoh XR-2s (no TTL, no flash used), and Ricoh XR-P (TTL). I've been using a Ritz Quantaray QTB-9000A tilt/swivel/bounce flash with the SP. The beauty of a Quantaray modular flash (or ProMaster, the actual maker) is that you can use it in TTL on Pentax

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
The MZ-M does not support TTL flash of any kind. The rest of the MZ line should work with the 280 but I'd check the camera manual to be sure. At 05:58 PM 12/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: Hello All, Say, can someone tell me which current Pentax cameras can properly use a AF 280t or a AF 200t flash

Re: Current Cameras with TTL Flash Metering?

2002-12-28 Thread Alan Chan
one of these flashes would work with it. Maybe a ZX-L would be better if it accepts these flashes. ZX-M doesn't have TTL flash, although it still works with analog flashes in Auto mode. The flash capability issue with Pentax is the exact opppsite of Nikon. Pentax AF bodies (digital) can do TTL

Re: TTL flash question

2002-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pat, When using TTL, the flash cutoff is controlled by the camera. The sensor in the camera is reading light of the film plane and so the ISO setting on the flash is irrelevant. The flash setting is only needed when you are using the flash in Auto mode. Bruce Thursday, November 14, 2002,

TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Ken Archer
I found a used dedicated flash for a Pentax that has two contacts on the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like an AF200T. Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p? -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss

Re: TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Alan Chan
I found a used dedicated flash for a Pentax that has two contacts on the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like an AF200T. Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p? I think TTL flash for Pentax required at least 3 contacts. regards, Alan Chan

Re: TTL flash?

2002-07-12 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.
on the bottom of the shoe like a AF160 rather than the three contacts like an AF200T. Is it capable of TTL flash with a PZ-1p? I think TTL flash for Pentax required at least 3 contacts. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos

Re: Analog TTL flash correction

2002-04-20 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Avca But the camera will give you the metering including this exp comp factor, Avca right? Avca So, if you want fill flash, you put 1/4x and then add two stop to what the Avca meter tells you is the right exposure in manual mode? Avca Regards´ That's my understanding of it, and also the way I

Re: Analog TTL flash correction

2002-04-19 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Sas Gabor wrote: Does the camera's exposure correction setting affect the TTL flash operation on the SuperA, LX and SFXn? Only if the camera is in manual mode. m - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions

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