Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Colin Smale
UK native here... Looking at the vehicles, a bus would be more spartan, set up for fare collection, doors for speedy un/loading etc whereas a coach would almost always have only a single door (although some have more), be more luxurious, be equipped with seat belts etc. In bus-lover-land there

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Anne-Karoline Distel writes: > [women's and parent's parking] I can believe it exists, and it being common in .eu explains why it's in the josm presets. > You're right about caravans/ RVs, that should be its own tag as well and > be rendered. For coaches, I'm in favour of amenity=coach_parking

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
That's what I mean, tourist busses.  I see now that there is a tag (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourist_bus), but my point is that it should also be rendered with a bus/ coach symbol. Also, they are often seasonal, at least in Ireland, so during the winter, can be used by cars, but

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Hi, parking spaces for women are usually closer to the entrance to the shop, so the rapist doens't get a chance to get you, if you're too far into a vast parking garage and nobody can hear you scream. Or maybe just to make you feel safer. Parents' parking is closer to the shop/ shopping trolley

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/06/2023 10:52, Greg Troxel wrote: Anne- Karoline Distel writes: I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things [snip] I can't find it either. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name#values allows

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Warin
On 9/6/23 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more > detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about > "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU for what we Yanks would call >

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Anne- Karoline Distel writes: > I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car > to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things [snip] I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see

[Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne- Karoline Distel
I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things, but I can't find a good way to mark coach parking as such. I've added bus=yes in the meantime, but that won't render a bus icon instead of a car icon, I believe, which

[Tagging] [RFC] Deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter

2023-06-06 Thread Marc_marc
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Deprecate_maxspeed:seasonal:winter Deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter only is nonsense, it's the whole maxspeed:seasonal:* that need to be grouped in one shoot but we also have maxspeed:wet maxspeed:snow (and maybe other) it make sens if we want to

Re: [Tagging] [Voting] Deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter

2023-06-06 Thread Marc_marc
Le 07.06.23 à 02:28, Matija Nalis a écrit : Voting has started on the proposal to deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter. Please vote on the wiki pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Deprecate_maxspeed:seasonal:winter RFC start: 2023-05-23 but I don't see any request for comment

[Tagging] [Voting] Deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter

2023-06-06 Thread Matija Nalis
Voting has started on the proposal to deprecate maxspeed:seasonal:winter. Please vote on the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Deprecate_maxspeed:seasonal:winter (posted here by request of arrival-spring in

Re: [Tagging] date not in YYYY-MM.DD format should go into a sufix edtf ?

2023-06-05 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/5/23 8:12 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Having tried to use both formats in both projects, I do think EDTF is the better format overall, and I wouldn't mind seeing it used in OSM. However, the ad-hoc format does have one advantage in being able to express dates in the Julian calendar directly,

Re: [Tagging] date not in YYYY-MM.DD format should go into a sufix edtf ?

2023-06-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 14:56 2023-05-29, Marc_marc đã viết: a contributor change to wiki to tell that "For dates that cannot be expressed in -MM-DD format, such as approximate or uncertain dates, or times of day, use the end_date:edtf=* key in addition to this key. " did you agree with that ? start_date

[Tagging] date not in YYYY-MM.DD format should go into a sufix edtf ?

2023-05-29 Thread Marc_marc
a contributor change to wiki to tell that "For dates that cannot be expressed in -MM-DD format, such as approximate or uncertain dates, or times of day, use the end_date:edtf=* key in addition to this key. " did you agree with that ? start_date if full of not -MM-DD including Cxx for

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Extended playground equipment

2023-05-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27 May 2023, at 08:45, Alex wrote: > > As a group of mappers who regularly map playgrounds, we are proposing more > values to the list of documented playground equipment to better map typical > devices that had no documented value before. > >

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Extended playground equipment

2023-05-27 Thread bkil
For coin operated machines, see also: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Damusement_arcade On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 3:40 PM Alex wrote: > > > "playground=ride / Is it supposed to include also coin operated ones that > > make noise/lights/movements?" > > There is already

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-27 Thread Timothy Noname
I would say material=metal and overhang=yes would adequately describe the object On Tue, 23 May 2023, 12:32 Peter Elderson, wrote: > barbecue=support ? > > Mvg Peter Elderson > > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> het volgende geschreven: > > 

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Extended playground equipment

2023-05-27 Thread Alex
> "playground=ride / Is it supposed to include also coin operated ones that make noise/lights/movements?" There is already "attraction=kiddie_ride" for them. This are different types of devices, which are also usually not part of playgrounds. > "playground=hammock / These are also placed

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Extended playground equipment

2023-05-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
playground=ride Is it supposed to include also coin operated ones that make noise/lights/movements? https://www.google.pl/maps/@50.054966,19.8545417,3a,15.3y,207.67h,84.22t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHED2kF0PByYJyi9CYVjXXw!2e0!5s20110801T00!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu caught one re:

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Extended playground equipment

2023-05-27 Thread Alex
Hi all, anyone who maps playground equipment from time to time might be familiar with the issue: The playground values from the wiki represent only a small range of possible playground devices, for many others you have to get creative, come up with your own tags or dig through TagInfo to see

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-23 Thread Raphael
> As a mapper I try to map the 'marked area', the marked lines used to > create the court/pitch. This makes somewhat easier work for me and very > objective. I, on the other hand, find it easier and also more logical to map the whole area that has the same surface. On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 10:15,

Re: [Tagging] Tag which restaurant or cafe allows bringing your own food or drink?

2023-05-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, in my opinion such tagging would only make sense if these rules were signposted at the restaurant. In the restaurants that I frequent, what you describe would basically mean a prior phone call - hey, we're booking a table for dinner for 6, but one person has to bring their own food, is

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-23 Thread Peter Elderson
barbecue=support ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > >  https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > accommodate disposable

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22 May 2023, at 20:06, Dave F via Tagging > wrote: > > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > accommodate disposable barbecues. > > Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes? for the avoidance of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for

2023-05-23 Thread Warin
On 22/5/23 22:46, Marc_marc wrote: Le 15.05.23 à 18:47, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? yes https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking_space I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-23 Thread Warin
On 23/5/23 04:00, Dave F via Tagging wrote: https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to accommodate disposable barbecues. Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes?

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-23 Thread Warin
On 23/5/23 09:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: but what's the playing area ? Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 22:43, Marc_marc wrote: > > but what's the playing area ? > Yep, good question, with no across-the-board answer! As you say, you can play tennis from "outside" the court, but in most ball games, if the ball (& sometimes player) crosses the marked line, that's out! &

[Tagging] Tag which restaurant or cafe allows bringing your own food or drink?

2023-05-22 Thread bkil
Certain allergies or dietary restrictions preclude one from consuming a meal prepared by conventional amenities, or if the find the drink offering insufficient (for example you can rarely find milk or vegetable juice at most places). Or you would like to bring some snacks from home to a pub that

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-22 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Made of metal instead of the usual wood, for obvious reasons. Extended table so hot things don't fall one anyone's knees. Yes, can also be used by wheelchair users. DaveF On 22/05/2023 19:29, Timothy Noname wrote: Isn't that A wheelchair friendly picnic table? I don't understand the BBQ

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-22 Thread Timothy Noname
Isn't that A wheelchair friendly picnic table? I don't understand the BBQ reference? On Mon, 22 May 2023, 19:06 Dave F via Tagging, wrote: > https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

2023-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Is it about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:changing_table for adults? May 22, 2023, 14:20 by ro...@onwheelsapp.com: > >   > > >   > > > Changing places > > >   > > > For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: > > https://www.changing-places.org/ > > > With the On wheels app

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-22 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
I recently saw one where just a metal protection was added to the picnic table for the disposable grill. No photo, sorry. I'd be interested in that too. On 22/05/2023 19:00, Dave F via Tagging wrote: https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table

[Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

2023-05-22 Thread Dave F via Tagging
https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to accommodate disposable barbecues. Can anybody recommend a sub-tag that's more descriptive than barbecue=yes?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

2023-05-22 Thread Marc_marc
Le 16.05.23 à 13:23, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : * changing_table:size you mean width lenght ? if so, use width lenght or changing_table:user_type (children, adults) type has not meaning on its own, better to use the more common :for suffix -> changing_table:for for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

2023-05-22 Thread Illia Marchenko
Hi, Robin! Please see wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=dressing_room Regards, Illia. 22 May 2023, 15:20 : > > > > > *Changing places* > > > > For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: > https://www.changing-places.org/ > > With the On wheels app we want to add > > > >-

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 1 - toilets wheelchair extra tags

2023-05-22 Thread Marc_marc
Le 16.05.23 à 13:23, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : *_Toilets:wheelchair_* if you want to add so much information, I think it would make sense to create an amenity=toilets object instead of sticking it on the POI, this will give information on its position and will also allow to deal with

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for

2023-05-22 Thread Marc_marc
Le 15.05.23 à 18:47, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? yes https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=parking_space I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag to a parking_space node, there is

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-22 Thread Marc_marc
Le 21.05.23 à 23:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : 2 - a rectangular leisure=pitch for the actual playing area but what's the playing area ? in tennis you serve from outside the line, So you serve outside the playing area ? the marking used depends on whether you play singles or doubles, will

[Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

2023-05-22 Thread robin
Changing places For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: https://www.changing-places.org/ With the On wheels app we want to add * amenity=changing_places Possible tag combinations would be: * toilets:wheelchair (yes, no) *

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-22 Thread Warin
As a mapper I try to map the 'marked area', the marked lines used to create the court/pitch. This makes somewhat easier work for me and very objective. It also make it easy to map an area that has a tennis court, a basketball court and a netball court all co-located. The rendering of 3

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-21 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Have you not checked the OSM wiki for pitch? DaveF On 21/05/2023 21:08, Raphael wrote: Hello everyone Does the area outside the sidelines of a pitch up a board, a fence, a change in surface or similar belong to a pitch (sports field) or not? I'm asking because there's [some disagreement][^1]

Re: [Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 06:10, Raphael wrote: > > Does the area outside the sidelines of a pitch up a board, a fence, a > change in surface or similar belong to a pitch (sports field) or not? > I'm asking because there's [some disagreement][^1] about how to map > `leisure=pitch`: [like this][^2]

[Tagging] Perimeter of a pitch

2023-05-21 Thread Raphael
Hello everyone Does the area outside the sidelines of a pitch up a board, a fence, a change in surface or similar belong to a pitch (sports field) or not? I'm asking because there's [some disagreement][^1] about how to map `leisure=pitch`: [like this][^2] or [like this][^3]? Unfortunately,

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-20 Thread Warin
On 19/5/23 21:20, Marc_marc wrote: Le 17.05.23 à 09:20, Warin a écrit : On 16/5/23 19:08, Marc_marc wrote: - some centres are not governmental (e.g. in Switzerland, mountain rescue is assigned to private companies such as Air Glacier) office=association ? it's a pretty poor content tag,

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-19 Thread Marc_marc
Le 17.05.23 à 09:41, Warin a écrit : in another email you state "some centres are not governmental (e.g. in Switzerland, mountain rescue is assigned to private companies such as Air Glacier)" So the tag may also be applicable to non government offices??? no, Air Glacier (among others)

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-19 Thread Marc_marc
Le 17.05.23 à 09:20, Warin a écrit : On 16/5/23 19:08, Marc_marc wrote: - some centres are not governmental (e.g. in Switzerland, mountain rescue is assigned to private companies such as Air Glacier) office=association ? it's a pretty poor content tag, it doesn't say anything more than

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-18 Thread Warin
On 18/5/23 07:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 18:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: emergency=control_centre/administration ??? That was the plan! emergency=control_centre for the place where disaster / emergency responses are controlled / co-ordinated from

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 18:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > emergency=control_centre/administration ??? > That was the plan! emergency=control_centre for the place where disaster / emergency responses are controlled / co-ordinated from e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-17 Thread Volker Schmidt
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Plant_nursery (approved) On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 10:08, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote: > Landuse=forest plus start_date then maybe? That would imply their age. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > On

Re: [Tagging] Re:   Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-17 Thread Anne- Karoline Distel
Landuse=forest plus start_date then maybe? That would imply their age.--Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 16/05/2023, 15:38 Dave F wrote: That appears to be for commercial purposes. These samplings are 'out in the wild' planted in a publicly

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-17 Thread Warin
On 16/5/23 19:00, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 15.05.23 à 09:13, Warin a écrit : clear definition Possibly something like "Used to mark the office of an emergency organization,  where administration, planning and control is performed. add government somewhere in the def :) if not, the tag

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-17 Thread Warin
On 16/5/23 19:08, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 16.05.23 à 00:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre - there are 2 main keys (office and emergency), inevitably some objects will have only one of the 2 and this

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-17 Thread Warin
On 17/5/23 00:38, Dave F via Tagging wrote: That appears to be for commercial purposes. According to the wiki. The proposal had no such limitation. I would use it. These samplings are 'out in the wild' planted in a publicly accessible field. Some plant nurseries are for use by the

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-16 Thread Marc_marc
Le 16.05.23 à 14:42, Dave F via Tagging a écrit : areas where you trees are planted? Too small natural =wood + start_date + height :) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-16 Thread Dave F via Tagging
That appears to be for commercial purposes. These samplings are 'out in the wild' planted in a publicly accessible field. Cheers DaveF On 16/05/2023 15:27, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote: A tree nursery? I think there's a tag for it. My phone won't open the wiki right now, but maybe that helps

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-16 Thread Anne- Karoline Distel
A tree nursery? I think there's a tag for it.My phone won't open the wiki right now, but maybe that helps already.Anne--Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 16/05/2023, 13:49 Dave F via Tagging wrote: Is there a tag for areas where you trees are

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 1 - toilets wheelchair extra tags

2023-05-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 16. Mai 2023 um 13:33 Uhr schrieb : > Hi everyone, > > > > As promised I will make separate emails with our tagging questions and > proposals that we want to add to OSM for our app. > > With our On Wheels app we give more objective information to wheelchair > users about dimensions of the

[Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

2023-05-16 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Is there a tag for areas where you trees are planted? Too small to be self supporting they're often individually attached to a pole & encased in a protective tube. natural=wood seems inappropriate, as does scrub. I thought 'saplings' would be suitable, but taginfo return none DaveF

[Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 2 - Changing places and changing table

2023-05-16 Thread robin
Changing places For the moment there is no tag for a changing place: https://www.changing-places.org/ With the On wheels app we want to add * amenity=changing_places Possible tag combinations would be: * toilets:wheelchair (yes, no) *

[Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 1 - toilets wheelchair extra tags

2023-05-16 Thread robin
Hi everyone, As promised I will make separate emails with our tagging questions and proposals that we want to add to OSM for our app. With our On Wheels app we give more objective information to wheelchair users about dimensions of the entrance, toilet, Elevator, . Toilets:wheelchair

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-16 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 16.05.23 à 00:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre - there are 2 main keys (office and emergency), inevitably some objects will have only one of the 2 and this will complicate things - some centres

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-16 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 15.05.23 à 09:13, Warin a écrit : clear definition Possibly something like "Used to mark the office of an emergency organization, where administration, planning and control is performed. add government somewhere in the def :) if not, the tag could be used for Red Cross office.

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-16 Thread Warin
On 16/5/23 08:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: During discussions on one of the proposals that finished up as emergency=water_rescue (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Use_on_Rescue-related_sites), there was suggestion of office=government +

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
During discussions on one of the proposals that finished up as emergency=water_rescue ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Use_on_Rescue-related_sites), there was suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-15 Thread Yves via Tagging
I guess that if I'd want to inform my user about a parking space width, I'll stick to a specific width=* tag, and not rely on a hundredth "good enough" polygon geometry mapped at 3 in the morning. At least I'm sure that if the mapper care enough to estimate a width, it's not completely wrong.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for

2023-05-15 Thread robin
Hi everyone, So if I understand correct most parking spaces are mapped as polygons? For the moment our app can only use node tags and also add new info as a node tag. I don't see the problem to add a width and length tag to a parking_space node, because this is more detailed info about the

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-15 Thread Greg Troxel
> The places (stations etc) where the emergency response come from would > not be an 'office'; "An office is a place of business where > administrative or professional work is carried out. "  e.g. lawyers, > accountants, records, In the US we have the concept of "Emergency Management Agency"

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-15 Thread Warin
On 15/5/23 17:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15 May 2023, at 09:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Tag it with office=government + government=emergency. " One of 'my' cases are "Fire Control Centres" where directions are given to bush fire fighters in the

Re: [Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 15 May 2023, at 09:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tag it with office=government + government=emergency. " > > > One of 'my' cases are "Fire Control Centres" where directions are given to > bush fire fighters in the field. > > Thoughts??? I think this

[Tagging] Tag government equals emergency defintion

2023-05-15 Thread Warin
HI The tag government=emergency presently is undefined on the wiki which could lead to misuse. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Agovernment%3Demergency As I understand it this should only be used with office=government. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:government

[Tagging] Imgur links in OSM data has been backed up

2023-05-14 Thread osm
Hi, I already mentioned it on the forums but might be good to mention it here as well. For contenxt: the image hosting website Imgur announced last month they announced a policy change so that they can delete imges uploaded without a user account.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 164, Issue 10

2023-05-14 Thread St Niklaas
Hi there, Most invalid parking spaces are marked with a traffic sign, accordingly those space will be sufficient of width and length. There is not much need to measure it like I do using several measurement tools. OSM is still a better map by making surveys, locally but by using arials it is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-14 Thread Marc_marc
Le 14.05.23 à 19:59, Yves via Tagging a écrit : everybody is not super accurate in drawing polygons indeed, and most tools doesn't allow to request a polygon with a given lenght/width I doubt a lot of mappers go trough a complete parking lot a measuring tape in their hands. On the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-14 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 14.05.23 at 19:59 Yves wrote: everybody is not super accurate in drawing polygons, imagery has a resolution and I doubt a lot of mappers go trough a complete parking lot a measuring tape in their hands. Sure, mappers drawing polygons very rarely use measuring tape. The same is true for

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-14 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 19:04, Yves via Tagging wrote: > > > Le 14 mai 2023 17:15:33 GMT+02:00, Tobias Knerr a > écrit : > >On 13.05.23 at 18:28 Marc_marc wrote: > >> why not just add this information as amenity=parking_space geometry ? > > > >Indeed, amenity=parking_space is usually mapped as a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-14 Thread Yves via Tagging
Le 14 mai 2023 17:15:33 GMT+02:00, Tobias Knerr a écrit : >On 13.05.23 at 18:28 Marc_marc wrote: >> why not just add this information as amenity=parking_space geometry ? > >Indeed, amenity=parking_space is usually mapped as a polygon (over 94% of >amenity=parking_space tags are on ways,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-14 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 13.05.23 at 18:28 Marc_marc wrote: why not just add this information as amenity=parking_space geometry ? Indeed, amenity=parking_space is usually mapped as a polygon (over 94% of amenity=parking_space tags are on ways, according to Taginfo). This makes it possible to determine the

Re: [Tagging] office=healthcare deprecated or bad documentation ?

2023-05-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/05/2023 21:16, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, in 2020, the wiki was changed [|] for this tag (I don't remeber that we talk about it, no link in the comment of the change) [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:office%3Dhealthcare=prev=2062630 See also discussion at

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Marc_marc
Le 13.05.23 à 17:41, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : *_Highway=elevator_* ** We want to add some extra tags that are important for wheelchair users: * elevator:door_width elevator:door:width on an object other that the elevator it-self but this way of informing glued environment on the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, thanks forr splitting topic by thread. Le 13.05.23 à 17:03, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : *_Amenity=parking, amenity=parking=space_* We want to propose some new tags to add to parking spaces: * Parking_space:width * Parking_space:length without the upper letter, that's a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Hi again, Similar to my comment on your proposal for "parking_space:width=*"; if the object that you are adding the tag to is the elevator ("highway=elevator" in your Subject Line), surely all you need is ""door_width=*", "width=*", "length=*" and "wheelchair_button="?  You do not need to

[Tagging] Fw: Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
Hi, What object are you proposing to tag in this way?   Maybe I am missing something here, but if the object that you are mapping is a parking space, then surely all you need is "width=*" and "length=*"? I would think that you only need "parking_space:width=*" and "parking_space:length=*" if

[Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread robin
Highway=elevator We want to add some extra tags that are important for wheelchair users: * elevator:door_width * elevator:width * elevator:depth * elevator_button:wheelchair (yes, no) Only marking an elevator as wheelchair=yes is not enough for a lot of

[Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

2023-05-13 Thread robin
Amenity=parking, amenity=parking=space We want to propose some new tags to add to parking spaces: * Parking_space:width * Parking_space:length In our app we are using a parking profile where wheelchair users can set their width and length of their car. Not every disabled

[Tagging] office=healthcare deprecated or bad documentation ?

2023-05-12 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, in 2020, the wiki was changed [|] for this tag (I don't remeber that we talk about it, no link in the comment of the change) it is obviously wrong to use it for amenity=doctors or other examples of reported errors. however the correct usage (an office dealing with health but not a

[Tagging] Edits to "names" page following last year's discussion (was: Re: I am reverting an edit to the "Names" page on the Wiki)

2023-05-09 Thread Andy Townsend
Sorry to dredge this up again, but what seems to have happened is: Some edits to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names by https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgo_eiu were reverted https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Names=revision=2368644=2351644 and there was discussion

[Tagging] Rockfall protection galleries

2023-05-08 Thread Raphael
Hello everyone I couldn't find a tag for a protection gallery that doesn't protect against avalanches, but against rockfall and/or landslides (i.e. not a `tunnel=avalanche_protector`). Examples: * https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=126514466424735=46.005085067698=8.9987100884522=17=photo *

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair

2023-05-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 May 2023, at 10:39, Sebastian Felix Zappe > wrote: > > For example, a door width or step count should be tagged on the node that > represents the entrance door, not the café PoI node inside the building (or > worse, the building polygon) but this requires to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - EV Charging Station Mapping

2023-05-08 Thread NKA mapper
As requested, here is my code for identifying potential groups of charge points: https://github.com/NKAmapper/charging_sites The script only provides an indication of groups. It is based on proximity, and the generated tags of each site are based on the most common tags of the underlying charge

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair

2023-05-08 Thread Sebastian Felix Zappe
Hi Robin, Sebastian from Wheelmap here. :) You're right, wheelchair=* is not enough, and what "accessible" means is different for everyone. It's cool you want to tag more things about PoIs! Wheelmap is going to display many more tags soon, as well. If we keep this organized, we can ensure

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair

2023-05-07 Thread stevea
On May 7, 2023, at 12:56 PM, wrote: > What is the best way to make it more easy to discuss? Hi Robin: I'm one person in North America, about 14 years in OSM. I helped my university and community in wheelchairs in OSM with a fair bit of wheelchair mapping / routing guidance. Awesome,

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair

2023-05-07 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.05.2023 um 21:56 schrieb ro...@onwheelsapp.com: We have been in contact with Wheelmap. They are using the tag wheelchair=yes/no, but with On Wheels we have a different approach. We measure objective data about the entrance and toilet of a building. Who did you talk to at

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair

2023-05-07 Thread robin
Hi everyone, Thank you allready for all the input. Special thanks to Marc and Jez for their suggestions and questions. I would like to clear up some things: We have been in contact with Wheelmap. They are using the tag wheelchair=yes/no, but with On Wheels we have a different approach. We

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair accessibility for On Wheels app

2023-05-04 Thread Jez Nicholson
Hi Robin, Are you in communication with WheelApp? Obviously they don't have an exclusive on wheelchair mapping, but they will have a lot of experience with OSM accessibility tagging and might be able to help. There may be a niche Discord channel or something about it. - Jez On Wed, 3 May 2023,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - EV Charging Station Mapping

2023-05-03 Thread NKA mapper
Please see comments below. ons. 3. mai 2023 kl. 09:32 skrev Marc_marc : > > can you share our algorithmic ? > I can share the script in a few days. It needs to be tided up. In the meantime, the generated file is available for browsing. Search for the GROUP tag. > I don't see how an algo will

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair accessibility for On Wheels app

2023-05-03 Thread stevea
Marc_marc, je suis sérieusement impressionné par vos efforts. Merci beaucoup! Marc_marc, I am seriously impressed with your efforts, many thanks! > On May 3, 2023, at 1:22 AM, Marc_marc wrote: > > Hello, > > Le 02.05.23 à 17:34, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : >> We want to add these tags:

Re: [Tagging] Help with new tags about wheelchair accessibility for On Wheels app

2023-05-03 Thread Marc_marc
Hello, Le 02.05.23 à 17:34, ro...@onwheelsapp.com a écrit : We want to add these tags: I find the list too big to digest in one go, so I'll note a few tags that seem clearly ok and some tags that clearly don't seem ok the others, between the 2, deserve in my opinion to be treated out of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - EV Charging Station Mapping

2023-05-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/05/2023 08:28, Marc_marc wrote: I don't see how an algo will detect that 2 objects amenity=charging_station represent 2 sites on the same parking (and are therefore valid in the new schema) and not 2 charging stations on the same site (which would have to be changed to

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