Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Hello all, Happy to see progress here. My ongoing question is how to define that a "local" group has determined that an import can proceed.   And more specifically what is "local"? There are rural and remote parts of Canada which have in the order of zero active mappers or sense of a local

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

countries=Canada > (they aren't necessarily representative of the community, but it's > really the closest we can reasonably do given our current tooling) [3] > (no private message responses) > - posted on OSM Canada Slack on 17 August

[Talk-ca] OSMOSE change: split on admin_level=5 boundaries in Québec

Hello, Just a note to advise that OSMOSE QA tool now has smaller areas to process in Québec rather than one area for the entire province. The tool is now using the admin_level=5 boundaries.  This follows the same change done for Ontario earlier this year. The reason to split up a province

Re: [Talk-ca] Inconsistencies in names for admin_level=5 boundaries in Québec

Le lundi 2 septembre 2019 11 h 24 min 08 s UTC−4, Matthew Darwin a écrit : Hello, I was looking at the admin_level=5 boundaries in Québec, and I notice they appear to not be named consistently (list below).  Possible issues: * m-dash vs n-dash to separate names (compare Gaspésie–Îles

[Talk-ca] Inconsistencies in names for admin_level=5 boundaries in Québec

Hello, I was looking at the admin_level=5 boundaries in Québec, and I notice they appear to not be named consistently (list below). Possible issues: * m-dash vs n-dash to separate names (compare Gaspésie–Îles-de-la-Madeleine vs Abitibi-Témiscamingue) * spaces between names (compare

[Talk-ca] Phone number quality checks

Hello all, OSMOSE now has validations for phone numbers in Canada. http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/errors/?country=canada_%2A=2500=3092 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-ca] Business Improvement Area tagging

Hello all, I'm not sure if this applies to other provinces or not, so I thought I would ask here. In Ontario there is a concept of "Business Improvement Area" ("BIA" for short) that has the power to tax businesses within their zone  (see http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page1529.aspx for details).

Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports

Andrew, Keep up the great work making OSM great for Canada. On 2018-11-27 1:36 p.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I agree. A selective import from CANVEC is fine and generally gives good results. As long as you don't import things like forests and buildings (which are both woefully out-of-date,

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

Of course. Could use the ottawa import approach:  "leave existing buildings alone". Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018-11-02 7:03 p.m., OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: On Nov 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, John Whelan wrote: So to paraphrase your reply. A centrali

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

I think we should identify who would like to be involved in import for each municipality.  (on a wiki page). On the page, identify roles, like: * coordinator * import data preparation * QA * import execution * data enrichment (commercial, residential, etc... tagging) * etc.. Then we

[Talk-ca] Fwd: BC2020i - update Sept 2018

Forwarded Message Subject:BC2020i - update Sept 2018 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:54:41 + From: Alasia, Alessandro (STATCAN) To: many Dear all, I hope you had a good and relaxing summer. I imagine this email will find you all back in the office or at

Re: [Talk-ca] Trans-Canada Highway research

Hi Olivia, I spent some fixing tags on TCH ways in *Ontario* in the last few weeks.  Do an overpass query on nat_name=Trans-Canada Highway in Ontario (see below). Is it possible to build a query that shows ways with nat_name=Trans-Canada Highway and not part of the relation, and

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

Forwarded message... Subject:Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:21:22 -0500 From: keith hartley Hi building 20/20 list Last Friday I worked with one of my colleagues and a high school

Re: [Talk-ca] Trans-Canada Highway research

TCH), so the naming is consistent only within a province.  Please review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Canada_Highway On 2018-03-26 09:25 AM, Matthew Darwin wrote: * Another question is related to the priority of the names in the name value tag and also for the ref tag. If we have a way t

Re: [Talk-ca] Trans-Canada Highway research

On 2018-03-26 07:20 AM, Olivia Robu - (p) wrote: Hello, The Telenav Map team has done some research on the status of the ways and relations of Trans-Canada Highway. Here are some conclusions from this research: * The highway is formed from 30 routes; The Trans-Canada highway is not

Re: [Talk-ca] Poorly drawn buildings #GEOG231-W18; #BC2020; #UCalgary-GEOG231; #BC2020-UCalgary

, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote: Hi all, I noticed some poorly drawn (not-square) buildings in Calgary tagged with the hashags #GEOG231-W18;#BC2020;#UCalgary-GEOG231;#BC2020-UCalgary. If you are involved in this project, yo

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

Pierre, This is a good idea, and I plan to do it.   My current challenge is to know what things people think "need correction".  I'm starting these discussions to see if there is any consensus before I go writing code.  If you (or anyone else) has ideas, please do post here (or email

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

Searching on "110 Laurier Avenue West, on" in Nominatim already works (it finds Ottawa City hall) even though the address has no addr:province tag for City Halle.  So I don't think this is a good reason to be adding addr:province/addr:province:short_name tags. IMO.  Unless there is another use

[Talk-ca] Poorly drawn buildings #GEOG231-W18; #BC2020; #UCalgary-GEOG231; #BC2020-UCalgary

Hi all, I noticed some poorly drawn (not-square) buildings in Calgary tagged with the hashags #GEOG231-W18;#BC2020;#UCalgary-GEOG231;#BC2020-UCalgary.  If you are involved in this project, you might want to review the quality. I added a "fixme" tag to the problems I happen to notice.

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

So I've tidied up the addr:province/state tags, now using only addr:province, leaving anything that would be generally considered "correct" either spelt out in full or using English provincial abbreviation as you might use in a mailing address. Also left "Quebec" (no accent). I would rather

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

Rob, One other thing to think about while others are discussing the licensing topic:  What is the quality of the buildings?  Has that been reviewed? * Are they in the right place? * Are they the right size? * Are they squared off (rectangles) * Are they aligned to each other and the road

Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

of the educational and local planning structures and processes at the municipal and regional level. Alessandro and his colleagues at the TB Open Data branch are well aware of what we are trying to do. Jonathan *From: *Matthew Darwin <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9

Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

Hi Jonathan, Are you trying to set up the tasking manager, or you just want to add a project to the existing tasking manager http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/?  If you describe the details of what you're trying to accomplish (look at existing tasks), then someone can probably add a task for you.

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names in Ontario

rt     112 Village Of Hilton Beach and I think that's it for Ontario. On 2018-02-23 11:50 AM, Matthew Darwin wrote: I will leave the wonky towns (the ones that have parentheses) for cleanup later.  The other "Town Of" are d

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names in Ontario

I will leave the wonky towns (the ones that have parentheses) for cleanup later.  The other "Town Of" are done. I am working on "Municipality Of" now. On 2018-02-18 11:04 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: Hi Bill, Thanks for the feedback.  OSM is updated accordingly. I also cha

Re: [Talk-ca] Expanding vs abbreviating

. /Suggestion:/ Name these streets/avenues with the full name (such as 51st Street Northeast) and let the renderer sort out the abbreviation where required. Where the numbering system ends below 30, consider spelling out the numbers. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

ned as expanded in OSM. If it is not normally expanded, then it is not expanded in OSM. "Saint John" (NB) and "St. John's" (NL) are both correct. Feel free to clarify further on the wiki or continue the discussion here... Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

11:25 AM, john whelan wrote: So what we are saying is the city field should be filled in not with the physical city but with Canada Posts thoughts of the day? Orleans is different.  It never was a municipality. Cheerio John On 19 February 2018 at 11:17, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names in Ontario

t basis I'd say yes, Maple is definitely a suburb of Vaughan, as are 1/2 of Thornhill, Concord, Woodbridge, and Kleinburg.  Purpleville and Nashville should likely be classified as neighbourhoods, and Hope and Burrlington (note double "r") as pioneer communities. 16796 Town

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

In my OSM map updates to remove of "City of" and similar prefixes from locality names, I will not be expanding any "St", "Ste" or any other abbreviations of those names.  If the name (minus the prefix to be removed) matches what is in NRCan database, I will remove the prefix; if it doesn't, I

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

To start the cleanup process, the following *Ontario* cities are being changed (remove "City of" or "City Of").   Once that is done, I'll come back with the next batch to process... The idea to remove the city name in its entirety will require careful consideration to ensure the necessary

[Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

be a more reasonable at this time.  (addr:country is used ~94% less than addr:street) Tags, by number of occurrences:  167902 addr:country   33252 addr:state  179741 addr:province 2950115 addr:city 2942159 addr:street 2934341 addr:housenumber -- Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http

Re: [Talk-ca] Postal Code cleanup

uch bigger now... I was querying the postal codes where also there is a contact record) On 2018-02-07 08:01 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: Hi all, Below are the 10 top postal code formats in Canada as seen in *addr:postcode*. When I get bored of tidying up phone numbers, I'll t

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

Kevin thanks for the history lesson.  As I mentioned on other threads, I'm relatively new here, so I am missing the context, so I appreciate you filling it in. Looking at the 100 used "Town/City/Municipality of " names, they seem to be entirely in Ontario.  So perhaps this is mostly an

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

On 2018-02-12 06:05 PM, Stewart Russell wrote: On Feb 12, 2018 17:51, "Matthew Darwin" <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote: Hi, I am now reviewing the *addr**:city* tag. Seems we are not very consistent how we use it. For example, Toro

[Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

ton 9666 City of Brantford 9603 Toronto 9487 Shawinigan 9384 City of Sarnia 9380 Red Deer 9102 City of Windsor 9044 City Of Sault Ste. Marie 8466 Sudbury -- Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca ___ Talk-ca mail

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

###     110 phone"###- 40 phone"+#-###-###-####;+#-###-###- On 2018-02-07 06:46 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: A further update on this work: * I found more yet bizarre phone-related tags "phone:1", "telephone" and the like.  These have all been tidied.  My osmfilte

[Talk-ca] Postal Code cleanup

Hi all, Below are the 10 top postal code formats in Canada as seen in *addr:postcode*. When I get bored of tidying up phone numbers, I'll tackle some postal codes. I hope we can all agree that "A#A #A#", which is the most popular, is the correct format that should be used.  The ones that

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

#-###-###-;+#-###-###- 25 phone"+#-###-###- 23 phone"+#-###-###-x### 17 phone"+# (###) ###-####      14 phone"+#-###-###-x   9 phone"+#-###-###-x# On 2018-02-04 11:49 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:37

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i - Solving the licensing issues

Hi John, I think this approach has merit. Probably it would work if we take a similar approach to what BikeOttawa is doing with OSM data, they wanted a "Level Of Traffic Stress" map.  To that they defined the set of interesting tags, started collecting data, then draw a map.  Now people are

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i - Solving the licensing issues

James, Good point about the quality and attributes of the data will definitely not be consistent between municipalities. As long as the source is identifiable, then the face it is one "file" or many, would be an implementation detail.  IMO. On 2018-02-07 09:46 AM, James wrote: why does it

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

l use ";" as multiple number separator. * I will use "x" for extension. * And I will be happy to cleanup the wonky ones with lots of text in them if there is a direction of where this should move to.  Example for a radio station: "office (###) ###-; on-air studio

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

Ok, just I had to re-write more than just that one section to make it coherent.   Hopefully the page has a bit more logical structure now. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 Comments and edits welcome! On 2018-01-29 09:26 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: I

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

the pilot and the resources we had available but even there I wasn't certain we would be able to pull it off. Cheerio John 2018-01-29 21:11 GMT-05:00 Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>>: +1 Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (whi

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

+1 Unless someone has lots of $$$ to throw at OSM work (which could then fund full time coordinators, trainers, lawyers, etc), the only way I see to coordinate is to approach it like how OSM in Canada was build up to now... distributed model with local groups doing what makes sense for their

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

I think we can politely re-factor out much stuff.  :-)   Now that we seem to have more folks looking into things, I am a bit more motivated to spend time on it. Tech writer type folks would be great to have. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018-01-28 09:21 PM

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

Just FYI, I am not doing an automated edit.  One at a time in JOSM. On 2018-01-28 10:23 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2018-01-28 08:22 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: I am wondering if I should have them in the format of "+1 999 555 1234" or "+1-999-555-1234".    If

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

a community profile that is accessible and engaging for community partners. Jonathan *From: *Mikel Maron <mailto:mi...@mapbox.com> *Sent: *Friday, January 26, 2018 10:37 AM *To: *Matthew Darwin <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <mailt

[Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

Hi all, Is there a preferred phone number format we use in Canada? I noticed a bunch of phone numbers in Ottawa don't follow the recommendations in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone, namely: * phone=/number/ where the /number/ should be in international (ITU-T E.164

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

Inline On 2018-01-28 07:38 PM, john whelan wrote: We have lots of people talking about this. Yay! We have a wiki page somewhere that covers some ground.  Could someone remind me of the address? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 needs lots of

Re: [Talk-ca] Indigenous communities - Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

Forward from a very long distribution list: Hi J, So you are not aware of any Indigenous communities engaged with OSM anywhere in Canada? It would be great if OSM could be introduced to Indigenous community members so they can help define a direction. Since you have contacts, can you help

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Great, seems like we have a list of 3 ok ones: Ottawa (approved license) Gatineau + Montreal (explicit approval provided) @James, do we have documentation as to where approval was given? Would be good to have this info on the wiki. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca

Re: [Talk-ca] building imports (was Re: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 10)

Hi Steve, I'm all for using the wiki, just want to consider the maintenance effort of keeping the tasking manager in sync with the wiki.  If someone wants to do that, so much the better!   Wikis can get stale quickly without someone(s) to actively look at doing updates, like you're doing.

Re: [Talk-ca] building imports (was Re: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 10)

!) On 2018-01-25 11:39 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: On Jan 25, 2018, at 8:30 PM, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> wrote: I should mention that there are others in Ottawa working on completing the buildings. The City import only had urban buildings. Since the city of Ottawa is the largest

Re: [Talk-ca] building imports (was Re: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 10)

/project/100 On 2018-01-25 11:13 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: Hi Steve, I'm not who the "movers and shakers" are really.   There is nobody really *driving* this project that I am aware of (the wiki suggests we should have a steering committee).   Every time I see email sent to th

Re: [Talk-ca] building imports (was Re: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 119, Issue 10)

Hi Steve, I'm not who the "movers and shakers" are really.   There is nobody really *driving* this project that I am aware of (the wiki suggests we should have a steering committee).   Every time I see email sent to the original distribution list of people invited to the meeting last

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

Hi John, After talking to many different folks about what their requirements are for a cycling map, it is clear to me that the cycling routing algorithm requires user-configurable tuning parameters.   People have different requirements at different times: from "find a nice path for a 6 year

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

that are not cyclable at this time of year. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018-01-23 03:25 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: Oops, the bicycle router I wanted to refer to in my previous is http://cycle.travel by Richard Fairhurst (whom I inexplicably confused with Simon Poole

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

couldn't collaborate better across the country on cycling activities.   Is there a national organization focused on cycling? Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2017-12-23 09:30 AM, john whelan wrote: I think the OSM article uses a variety of inputs. https://urbandatacyclis

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa street names

éans Drive Place-d’Orléans Drive promenade de la Place-d’Orléans Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2017-12-04 06:57 AM, James wrote: DES EPINETTES AVE is english. Des Epinettes Avenue. French is avenue Des Epinettes. Dont look hard for an Explaination why

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa street names

ard Orléans Boulevard boulevard d’Orléans promenade de la Place-d’Orléans Drive Place-d’Orléans Drive promenade de la Place-d’Orléans Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2017-12-04 06:57 AM, James wrote: DES EPINETTES AVE is english

Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

you updated. In the mean time, if you have any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks! Martijn On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: Hi all, Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Canada 2020 OSMGeoWeek Mapathons

Hi all, my 2c: If we want to have a bunch of new to OSM people map things, I would suggest that these is a *physical location* with *experts presen**t*.   As we see with the Carleton University example (not uOttawa), it's hard to get new folks on board... i would guess  that although there

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping of bilingual destination signs

Thanks J.P. If at some point there is a more clear boundary maybe someone could update the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Brunswick to give the rest of us more clear guidance. On 2017-10-03 12:16 AM, J.P. Kirby wrote: On 2017-10-03, at 12:33 AM, Matthew Darwin <m

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping of bilingual destination signs

n the wiki next week. Martijn On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:16 PM, J.P. Kirby <webmas...@the506.com <mailto:webmas...@the506.com>> wrote: On 2017-10-03, at 12:33 AM, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote: >

Re: [Talk-ca] COMS2200 Ottawa, Carleton University

Tracey, I just want to say some of the edits are really destructive: eg entire streets are changed/removed (on campus and off campus). My automated error checking script comparing what is in the City of Ottawa street list and what is in OSM caught some errors, which I spent time fixing.

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping of bilingual destination signs

Hi J.P. This sounds reasonable. Do we have a map that shows which areas of the province are French area vs English area. For us non-NBers. Or I suppose one could guess by looking at the existing tags there. (I would assume Fredericton is English area?) If we have a list then could

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping of bilingual destination signs

No, This is about the "desination" sign that you find on major highways, usually they are green. "Exit 114 chemin Anderson Road" or whatever. And this specific issue is about road signs in New Brunswick, and New Brunswick is the only official bilingual province in Cana

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

Is there anyone on point to drive this activity? On 2017-09-28 06:58 AM, john whelan wrote: Looks like we need to talk nicely to Open-Ouvert. Thanks John On 27 September 2017 at 21:54, Stewart C. Russell > wrote: On 2017-09-27 07:00 PM, john

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Canada 2020 initiative

Another good reason to create an organization that holds the keys to key OSM resources... then it can out-survive all of us. :-) On 2017-09-29 09:41 AM, James wrote: I and others can give access to people to create projects on the tasking manager. I understand that one person might disapear,

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22

Yes. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2017-09-28 12:17 PM, James wrote: And as a local chapter new comers could suggest/view tasks to work on. Kind of like what we did for Fort Mac. A centralized communication hub would enable us to move forward and concentrate our

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22

tly about the use of OSM in names. Cheerio John On 27 September 2017 at 21:59, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com <mailto:scr...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 2017-09-27 05:49 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Hi, > > Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US Octo

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

How do we want to move this discussion forward? Do we need to set up a time to talk on the phone? I am willing to help coordinate logistics. On 2017-09-17 10:55 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2017-09-17 10:40 AM, john whelan wrote: They'd like to extend it across Canada so now might be the

[Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22

Hi, Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US October 20-22 https://2017.stateofthemap.us/ During the conference, I would like to have a discussion about turning the informal https://www.osmcanada.ca/ into a not-for-profit Canadian corporation. I'm looking for other folks who