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Hi Tim,
On 13 January 2001 at 15:54:09 -0500 (which was 20:54 where I
live) Tim Musson wrote and made these points:
TM> Hey Olivier,
Tim has already apologised off-list for this posting, having read my
DH announcements after hitting "send".
Olivie
Hey Olivier,
Friday, January 12, 2001, 8:43:24 PM, you wrote:
>>Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
>>solution for you - , you could use the SMTP-server of
>>webmail-providers like www.myrealbox.com , www.gmx.net , www.yahoo.com
>>or www.operamail.com .
OR> I'll check
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Hi Olivier,
On 13 January 2001 at 13:50:41 +0100 (which was 12:50 where I
live) Olivier Reubens wrote and made these points:
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Stop this conversation NOW please I first aske
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Hi Olivier,
On 13 January 2001 at 13:38:25 +0100 (which was 12:38 where I
live) Olivier Reubens wrote and made these points:
OR> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:06:27 -0800, you wrote:
No no no! A DEAD HORSE is a DEAD HORSE. No more on this topic here
ple
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 06:45:30 +0100, you wrote:
>But, nothing I suggested will prevent you from this. Simply set up as
>many mailboxes as you like and let each have it own "From" and
>"Reply"-name - but let all have *the same* smtp-settings. I promise
>you, that this will work, as I am doing it cu
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:06:27 -0800, you wrote:
>Quick and short from what I've read you might try centralinfo.net.
>There you can host your domain, website, pop and smtp mail from any
>location or web access. Price is cheap enough at $8.00 US per month
>for a long list of services and disk space
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:31:53 -0800, you wrote:
>customers), against a table of allowed IP addresses. I really
>don't think the from email address on the email makes any
>difference here, but rather the IP it originates from.
At least one of the ISP's I'm using checks the "from" and just denies
an
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Hi David,
On 13 January 2001 at 11:40:17 +0100 (which was 10:40 where I
live) David Buntenbroich wrote and made these points:
DB> By the way, I started a new thread since the old one was made a Dead
DB> Horse by one of the moderators. (And your ques
Hi,
Saturday, January 13, 2001, 11:40:17 AM, I wrote:
> You might want to create a filter to move sent messages back to the
> first account's outbox.
**
Of course, I meant the sent folder.
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David
David Buntenbroich
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT
Hello Shahar,
Saturday, January 13, 2001, 11:13:58 AM, you wrote:
> Can I set an SMTP settings to a folder within an account so I can
> force the messages to be sent from that specific folder through a
> specific SMTP server ?
I think, the only thing you can do is to create a dummy account (or
Hello Jannik. On Friday, January 12, 2001, at 16:51:47, you wrote about:
"Multiple email everything."
> Hello Olivier and other TBUDL's,
> On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 00:03:12 GMT +0100 Olivier Reubens wrote on "Multiple
>email everything.":
OR>>
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Hi Elden,
On 13 January 2001 at 22:31:53 -0800 (which was 06:31 where I
live) Elden Fenison wrote and made these points:
ME>> They won't, because they don't allow relaying. You need to
ME>> set up you own mail server. MDaemon (software) or Cobalt Cu
Jannik,
On Friday, January 12, 2001, 9:45:30 PM, you wrote:
JL> But, nothing I suggested will prevent you from this. Simply
JL> set up as many mailboxes as you like and let each have it own
JL> "From" and "Reply"-name - but let all have *the same*
JL> smtp-settings. I promise you, that this will
Manfred,
On Friday, January 12, 2001, 6:37:27 PM, you wrote:
ME> They won't, because they don't allow relaying. You need to
ME> set up you own mail server. MDaemon (software) or Cobalt Cube
ME> (hardware) or Linux sendmail.
My two cents on this... I work for an ISP, and true, no reputable
ISP w
Hello Manfred and other TBUDL's,
On Saturday, January 13, 2001 at 02:37:27 GMT + Manfred Ell wrote
on "Multiple email everything.":
ME> On 13-01-2001 at 02:43:24GMT +0100 (which was 1:43 where I live)
ME> Olivier Reubens wrote regarding the subject of "Multip
Hello Olivier and other TBUDL's,
On Saturday, January 13, 2001 at 02:43:24 GMT +0100 Olivier Reubens
wrote on"Multiple email everything.":
OR> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:51:47 +0100, you wrote:
>>I've finally managed to read my way through the complete thread, but I
Hello Olivier,
Friday, January 12, 2001, 5:43:24 PM, you wrote:
OR> I have at current not found an SMTP server which I can access, from
OR> wherever I connected from (i.e. whatever ISP's I'm using). and send
OR> the mails through with any of 20 or so different "FROM" addresses
OR> (which include
On 13-01-2001 at 02:43:24GMT +0100 (which was 1:43 where I live)
Olivier Reubens wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."
Hello Olivier,
>>Have I missed something?! If I haven't - and this looks like a
>>solution for you - , you could use t
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:51:47 +0100, you wrote:
>I've finally managed to read my way through the complete thread, but I
>still don't understand why you can't use the SMTP-server of one of the
>web-mail providers offering SMTP-by-login and then
>
>1) set up TB with only *one* account
I need to be a
Hello Olivier and other TBUDL's,
On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 00:03:12 GMT +0100 Olivier Reubens wrote on "Multiple
email everything.":
OR> 1) If I have received an e-mail into one of the mailboxes of an
OR> account which ISP I'm not connected to at the moment, I
Hello!
Monday, January 08, 2001, 7:21:48 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
TF> What mail server software are you using
aernet.ru is my private domain. The mail subsystem on it is hosted by a
Communigate Pro POP3/SMTP/IMAP4/List server
(http://www.stalker.com/CGatePro.html) runnin
Hi Andrey,
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:03:17 +0300GMT (08/01/2001, 11:03 +0800GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
AGSAA>>> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f)
TF>> [...]
AGSAA>>> If you're on *NIX (as me now),
TF>> Wow. wine?
AGSAA> Not now ;-). The sentence you've quoted was related to the mail ser
Hi Andrey,
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:00:52 +0300GMT (08/01/2001, 11:00 +0800GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
AGSAA> Note: since we're going into the strict offtopic here I decided that all
AGSAA> replies to this message regarding non-TB! related stuff will be made
AGSAA> off-list to my ad
Hello Karin & others on TBUDL following this thread,
Sunday, January 07, 2001, you stated regarding :
>> replies to this message regarding non-TB! related stuff will be made
>> off-list to my address.
KS> Erm, you can't ;-)
KS> No matter how you set the reply-to, the list software will
KS>
Hello!
Monday, January 08, 2001, 6:18:11 AM, Karin Spaink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Note: since we're going into the strict offtopic here I decided that all
>> replies to this message regarding non-TB! related stuff will be made
>> off-list to my address.
KS> Erm, you can't ;-)
KS> No mat
On 08-01-2001 at 04:00, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) kindly wrote:
> Note: since we're going into the strict offtopic here I decided that all
> replies to this message regarding non-TB! related stuff will be made
> off-list to my address.
Erm, you can't ;-)
No matter how you set the reply-to,
Hello!
Sunday, January 07, 2001, 8:29:02 PM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AGSAA>> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f)
TF> [...]
AGSAA>> If you're on *NIX (as me now),
TF> Wow. wine?
Not now ;-). The sentence you've quoted was related to the mail server
software, not MUA.
--
Yours s
Hello!
Sunday, January 07, 2001, 9:03:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
bdou> I use sendmail under Linux (OT but I'll carry on) this sends mail
bdou> straight away wihtout using a smtp server.
:-) You may wonder a bit but the sendmail program is a quite perfect
example of the
> Friday, January 05, 2001, 10:06:24 PM, Olivier Reubens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> OR> Why does no e-mail client have an option to deliver sent mail
> OR> directly to the addressed person's SMTP server. Am I missing an
> OR> obvious "NO" here, or have I just thought up a totally new type of
Hallo Andrey,
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:39:36 +0300 GMT (07/01/2001, 12:39 +0800 GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
[...]
TF>> What is RCPT TO: ? The recipients?
AGSAA> It's the command sent to an (E)SMTP server by the connection originator
AGSAA> containing the so-called "envelope" addre
Hallo Andrey,
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 06:57:01 +0300 GMT (07/01/2001, 11:57 +0800 GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
AGSAA> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f)
[...]
AGSAA> If you're on *NIX (as me now),
Wow. wine?
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Cheers,
Thomas.
>From a Japanese information booklet about using a hotel air
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Hi Andrey,
On 07 January 2001 at 07:39:36 +0300 (which was 04:39 where I
live) Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote and made these points:
AGSAA> just consult an appropriate (E)SMTP-related RFCs found
AGSAA> on the 'net.
We've gone Wyyy
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 9:19:54 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(A notice to the list members and moderator: the next message could be
easily treated as offtopic (Marck, your comments please :-). Anyone
interested in additional technical details should contact me off-li
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 10:20:18 PM, Manfred Ell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
GFS>>> I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
GFS>>> yet to try one But they must work.
Thomas>> Isn't Hamster one of those?
ME> Yes, SMTP, POP3 and NNTP server.
ME> I'm using t
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 11:31:46 PM, Abigail Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OR>> Actually.. Why does no e-mail client have an option to deliver
OR>> sent mail directly to the addressed person's SMTP server. Am I
OR>> missing an obvious "NO" here, or have I just thought up a
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 10:06:24 PM, Olivier Reubens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OR> Why does no e-mail client have an option to deliver sent mail
OR> directly to the addressed person's SMTP server. Am I missing an
OR> obvious "NO" here, or have I just thought up a totally new type of
O
On 06-01-2001 at 16:09:24GMT +0800 (which was 8:09 where I live)
Thomas Fernandez wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."
Hello Thomas,
Thomas> I think Hamster does what you need. I don't have the URL, but somebody
Thomas> else in this list will.
htt
Hallo Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:29:07 +0100 GMT (06/01/2001, 05:29 +0800 GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> OK.. If that can't be done.. How can installing my own SMTP server
OR> work
I think Hamster does what you need. I don't have the URL, but somebody
else in this list will.
OR>
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On Friday, January 05, 2001, 1:29:07 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> OK.. If that can't be done.. How can installing my own SMTP server
OR> work
OR> According to that other mail, If I would install a SMTP server on my
OR> own PC, I can have that one send
Hi Olivier
I'm not sure if this will work, but it seems to be working fine for me. Go
to mailandnews.com and set up an account with them (it's free). Now go into
TB and set up your SMTP server to mailandnews.com. Then select
"Authentication", tick "Perform SMTP Authentication" and "Use specific
s
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:31:46 -0800, you wrote:
>You don't know what your addressed person's SMTP server is - there is
>no way to know except by looking at RFC headers of mail they have sent
>you, and then if they are using multiple ISP's like you, it would mean
>nothing.
>
>Not all servers with PO
>Well, perhaps you can consider using Host Colocation Service, means
>you put your own Server on ISP site ?
We have one server running at a provider (the one that has the site
and database).
>OR> 1) Access via ADSL or Cable at home. This is where I do most of
>OR> the management from so the sp
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On Friday, January 05, 2001, 11:06:24 AM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
>>There are servers you can install on your PC. Of course, they will be
>>only active when you are currently connected, but I tried one once,
>>and it sent the messages directly to the recipient's
Hello Abigail Marshall,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 at 11:43:05 GMT -0800(which was 1/6/2001 2:43 AM
where you think I live) you told to Andrey G. Sergeev on the list :
AGSAA>> Sorry, but you're wrong here.
AGSAA>> Generally, all SMTP servers are "relays". But the actual
AGSAA>> server behavio
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 20:16:55 GMT +0100(which was 1/6/2001 2:16 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :
>>What are your requirements that no single ISP can satisfy?
Well, perhaps you can consider using Host Colocation Service, means
you put your own Server o
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On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 8:19:30 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
OR>>> Well a ruling of the ISPA (www.ispa.be) (belgium organisation
OR>>> regulating ISP's in belgium) stipulates that no SMTP server should
OR>>> have an "open" line.
TF>> It is n
On 05-01-2001 at 23:19:00GMT +0800 (which was 15:19 where I live)
Thomas Fernandez wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."
Hello Thomas,
GFS>> I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
GFS>> yet to try one But they mus
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:44:11 +0800, you wrote:
>What are your requirements that no single ISP can satisfy?
1) Access via ADSL or Cable at home. This is where I do most of the
management from so the speed needs to be high, I often need to make
several MB's worth of changes to the dbase mentionned
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:41:46 +0800, you wrote:
>There are servers you can install on your PC. Of course, they will be
>only active when you are currently connected, but I tried one once,
>and it sent the messages directly to the recipient's POP server.
Actually.. Why does no e-mail client ha
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 19:23:54 GMT +0100(which was 1/6/2001 1:23 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :
>>Obtain an old pc. E.g. a P90. Install a *nix/*BSD on it and use it
>>as a smtp server. This solution works very well if your ISP has a
>>dodgy mail
Hallo Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:25:59 +0100 GMT (06/01/2001, 02:25 +0800 GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> If I could get an ISP that can do ALL of the things I need at an
OR> affordable price, I'd kick out all the rest and go with just the one,
OR> but this isn't the case at the moment.
W
Hallo Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:23:54 +0100 GMT (06/01/2001, 02:23 +0800 GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> And if I had a 24/24 line to the internet, I'd get my own domain
OR> registered,
I believe with 24 hours on 24 days a week, you could do a lot more
than that. ;-)
OR> set up my own s
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:39:04 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
>servers on an account for sending.
I am solving it with Forté Agent at this moment, where I can
auto-select the SMTP server depending on what dial-up I made the
connection with.
But Age
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:27:07 +0100, you wrote:
>On 05-01-2001 at 03:54, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote:
>
>> Contrary to what someone else suggested, xs4all.be is also a member of
>> the ISPA and doesn't have an open SMTP server.
>
>I suggested that XS4all.be probably uses SMTP authentication
>- whi
>OR> None of the Belgium ISP's however support relaying. I get
>OR> 'Relaying Denied' messages if I try. which brings me to problem
>Obtain an old pc. E.g. a P90. Install a *nix/*BSD on it and use it as a
>smtp server. This solution works very well if your ISP has a dodgy
>mail server (e.g.
Hallo George,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 05:23:11 -0800 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:23 +0800 GMT),
George F. Schoelles wrote:
GFS> I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
GFS> yet to try one But they must work.
Isn't Hamster one of those?
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
"The tides are a fi
On 05-01-2001 at 03:54, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote:
> Contrary to what someone else suggested, xs4all.be is also a member of
> the ISPA and doesn't have an open SMTP server.
I suggested that XS4all.be probably uses SMTP authentication
- which is not the same as an open SMTP. But from a later
p
Hello Jamie,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 12:09:36 AM, you wrote:
JD> A more windows orientated solution is to install NT and a windows
JD> based smtp server. Apart from BackOffice server I've never tried this
JD> method.
I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
yet to
Hi Jannik,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:20:42 +0100GMT (05/01/2001, 16:20 +0800GMT),
Jannik Lindquist wrote:
j>>> I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
j>>> servers on an account for sending.
JL> Is it something like this that is on the wish list
IIRC the wisher wished that
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:03:12 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 04, 2001, 23:03:12 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> None of the Belgium ISP's however support relaying. I get
OR> 'Relaying Denied' messages if I try. which br
Hello Thomas and other TBUDL's,
On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 14:06:32 GMT +0800
Thomas Fernandez wrote on "Multiple email everything.":
j>> I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
j>> servers on an account for sending.
TF> But it&#x
Hi Andrey,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:19:30 +0300GMT (05/01/2001, 12:19 +0800GMT),
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
TF>> It is not an "open" line if you are connected to it.
AGSAA> Hmm... Didn't catch the point, could you please explain? :-)
The same as you say below, using the more correct te
Hi John,
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:39:04 -0500GMT (05/01/2001, 12:39 +0800GMT),
jdanforth1 wrote:
j> I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
j> servers on an account for sending.
But it's in tghe wsih list for TB. ;-)
j> Sorry, but that's all this newby can do (it's my firs
Sorry, I didn't realize you might be mobile and need different
smtp servers at different times. Well, one way to do it would be
to duplicate all of your accounts, making another set for each
one of the outgoing servers you intend to use. The number of
accounts will multiply fast, but they could
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 6:26:39 AM, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>It doesn't matter what account you are using on TB, what matters is
>>>what CONNECTION you have. Choose whichever ISP is the most reliable
>>>for you to connect to, and then use that one for all SMTP. Wh
Hi Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:54:25 +0100GMT (05/01/2001, 10:54 +0800GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
>>It doesn't matter what account you are using on TB, what matters is
>>what CONNECTION you have. Choose whichever ISP is the most reliable
>>for you to connect to, and then use that one for al
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:50:48 -0800, you wrote:
>--
>On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 4:38:09 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
>
> Under Account Properties, "Transport",
>>>simply specify the SMTP server of whichever ISP you have that DOES
>>>allow relaying & is most reliabl
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:23:44 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello Olivier,
>
>
>> When writing a mail, I can change the "From" to any of my account
>> names, but I can't add my other mailboxes to it.
>
>What do you mean "add my other mailboxes" ?
The "FROM:" is a combobox, and I can use it to select any of t
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:03:12 +0100, Olivier wrote these words of wisdom:
[..trimmed..]
OR> None of the Belgium ISP's however support relaying. I get
OR> 'Relaying Denied' messages if I try. which brings me to problem 1.
OR> 1) If I have receive
Hello Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 01:38:09 GMT +0100 (which was 4:38 PM
where I live) witnesses say Olivier Reubens typed:
> The inbox, outbox, sent... only has a "general" tab. Is it something
> only available in the registered version ?
Inbox, outbox, Sent and Trash are system folders
Hello Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 00:03:12 GMT +0100 (which was 3:03 PM
where I live) witnesses say Olivier Reubens typed:
> I've been looking for a new e-mail client for quite a while, and
> having tried and rejected many, it seems like The Bat! comes very very
> close to what I've been
Hello!
Friday, January 05, 2001, 3:41:32 AM, Olivier Reubens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>1. Set up a separate account for each email address you use.
>>
>>2. Set each of the accounts up with the appropriate POP3 server
>>info, including username and password. But, for the SMTP (send)
>>serv
--
On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 4:38:09 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
Under Account Properties, "Transport",
>>simply specify the SMTP server of whichever ISP you have that DOES
>>allow relaying & is most reliable.
OR> NONE of the ISP's in Belgium allow relaying.
On 05-01-2001 at 01:38, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:36:43 -0800, you wrote:
>>When you set the account options for that account, don't specify that
>>ISP's outgoing mail server. Under Account Properties, "Transport",
>>simply specify the SMTP server of whichever ISP you
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:03:28 -0500, you wrote:
>This came in with my first batch of messages, I just bought the
>program and subscribed today. But your situation matches mine,
>so I'll tell you how to set it up like mine.
>
>1. Set up a separate account for each email address you use.
>
>2. Set
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:36:43 -0800, you wrote:
>--
>On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 3:03:12 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
>
>
>OR> 1) If I have received an e-mail into one of the mailboxes of an
>OR> account which ISP I'm not connected to at the moment, I CAN retrieve
>
This came in with my first batch of messages, I just bought the
program and subscribed today. But your situation matches mine,
so I'll tell you how to set it up like mine.
1. Set up a separate account for each email address you use.
2. Set each of the accounts up with the appropriate POP3 ser
--
On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 3:03:12 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> 1) If I have received an e-mail into one of the mailboxes of an
OR> account which ISP I'm not connected to at the moment, I CAN retrieve
OR> the mail, but when replying it'll fail (relaying d
Hi,
I asked this via information request, but haven't gotten any response
to it yet, maybe some of you have faced similar situations and found a
way to work with them...
I've been looking for a new e-mail client for quite a while, and
having tried and rejected many, it seems like The Bat! c
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