Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: As usual, Kevin has some facts, but draws unbelievably far-out conclusions as to what they mean.I guess if I got my car car-jacked, he'd blame me for not having inspiration in the first place against driving where it happened. Sometimes things happen, Kevin. I was robbed at gun-poin

Re: [TruthTalk] SEERS that can't see

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Stop and think, Kevin, exactly what does the Hoffman affair really mean? It means some money-mongering little jerk decided to go to GREAT legnths to rip off others--money was his only objective. He counted money as a measure of his success in life. Some value system, huh? Yet you seem

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: But but you said "hundreds." Only forty-eight, this time? Sure now? By the way, other than the loss of some money, what does this mean? YOUR ATTEMPT TO VILLIFY LEADERS OF THE CHURCH BECAUSE THEY FELL FOR Hoffman's duplicity means nothing in the long view of things. It only shakes the

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Sounds like a certain Kevin fellow I know. :) On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 09:07:23 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a message dated 2/27/2005 4:43:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > More &More like a Mormon > > > > The wrong page number does not nullify

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Which "Word of God?" KJV? Modern translations? They have all been changed. There is no such thing as a pure form of the "word of God" as known by so-called "Christians." On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:33:56 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't have to chug the

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-03-02 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE Sounding like Blaine is GOOD, Kevin! He is of the truth and should be greatly revered!! :) On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:04:44 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You sound more & more like Blaine every day! > Give us the context > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-02-28 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: IN ANSWER TO YOUR ACCUSATION THAT WE NEVER TALK ABOUT JESUS--THAT IS MORE OF YOUR ACCUSATORY B.S., KEVIN. YOU KNOW IT TOO, SO WHY DO YOU LIE LIKE A RUG? We pray in our services ALWAYS in the name of Jesus Christ, twice each service, 3 services per Sunday. Our sacrament prayers, 2 per m

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-02-28 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Hundreds? Millions? More of Kevin's exaggerating and dirt-digging, ho hum. Yawn. Time to knock off and hit the sack. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:25:47 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BLAINE says Only those who build on the sure rock will continue--that > rock is

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-02-28 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Kevin, did anyone ever tell you that you are an equal opportunity opportunist? (: On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:19:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > THIS COMMERCIAL INTERUPTION BROUGHT TO YOU BY Deseret INDUSTRIES & > BLAINE > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:BLAINE: I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Wow!! Did Kevin say all that? On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:14:39 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you DR. Lance in a majestic inculcation of Reason the learned > Doctor has shown beyond any reasonable doubt the state of the > "Educated > Illiterate" > > --- Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Arggg!! I should have said that!! What do you think Jesus wore!! My jealousy knoweth no bounds! LOL On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:25:48 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DAVEH: What do you think Jesus wore? > > Kevin Deegan wrote: > > > yup > > > > */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: It won't stick for long though, if you are a Mormon and wear the armor of God, made of Mormonized TEFLON. :) On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:11:33 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You try to paint Fundamentalists EX Cathedra again. > Lance Speaks & it was so. > > Since you h

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: No, but the Pope's garb is not dress--it is a Pontiff's accepted mode of dress. Right now, his mode of the day is a hospital gown. Would you call that a dress, too? Have you ever been in the hospital and had to wear one? LOL Besides, dresses are defined as being for exclusive to female

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: I don't know about Einstein believing in Jesus as the Messiah, but he spoke well of one Mormon writer, James E. Talmage, who wrote a book much used in Mormondom, titled "JESUS THE CHRIST." Einstein was quoted as saying Mr. Talmage was, other than himself, the smartest man he knew of. Th

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Dave never corrects "certain people," notice? On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:49:37 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is he that stands at the front of the class to teach. > Preachers preach Teachers teach. So start working on your grammar or > Dave will have to correct

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Good point, Kevin. AT LAST! We actually agree on something! LOL On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:36:44 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DAVEH: What do you think Jesus wore? > > I am sure it was not a Dress with broad phylacteries, and enlarged > borders ! > He wore the c

Re: [TruthTalk] Love

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: Oops! Judy has her heart into what she writes, but not always factually accurate, huh? Sorry Judy, I think David has it right here. Einstein was jewish, and most of what I have read about him was that he was a firm believer in an ordered universe--but ordered by God, whom he often sough

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: I think he would wear his old-style robes, dyed in red, as the scriptures say. Jeans and a "t" shirt? Na. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:10:28 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dave Hansen wrote: > > > DAVEH: What do you think Jesus wore? > > > ==

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: I think he is. But you never know about Kevin. He "sees" things others do not. LOL On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:02:34 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DAVEH: Are you referring to robes, such as is worn by the Pope? > > Kevin Deegan wrote: > > > Do you trust men that wear dr

Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Hey, this is right down my alley. We could also think about the phases of the moon and the relationship they have to the timetable of the Lord. The BoM was first given to Joseph Smith on the first day of the seventh month of the Jewish calendar--The Feast of Trumpets. The return of E

Re: [TruthTalk] False Critical text

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: OOps! Sorry, I will have to read more carefully--I thought it was unusually written , with complete sentences, etc. for Kevin. LOL On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:01:25 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a message dated 2/25/2005 6:45:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-02-26 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:41:53 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a message dated 2/25/2005 5:09:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The LDS Church will continue to > > advance and grow, because the people who are minding the store, so > to > > speak, have received th

Re: [TruthTalk] False Critical text

2005-02-25 Thread bborrow26
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am not the one who believes that FF Bruce and myself and anyone > else share brotherhood because we agree.No two people on this > list are in agreement. > BLAINE: Your statement above proves my belief that you boys (SP's) stand in your o

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-02-25 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: The miracle was that he had a spiritual experience convincing him of his sins and that the BoM was true after all. You must have just read the headlines. Bytheway, I want to tell you something. The LDS Church will continue to advance and grow, because the people who are minding the st

Re: [TruthTalk] for the Record

2005-02-25 Thread bborrow26
Uh oh, Kevin has dug up more dirt on the Mormons, his favorite use of his time. You should be out there bugging RCC priests, or Southern Baptist politicians, Kevin. (:>) On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:06 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2582041 >

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

2005-02-23 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: As far as I know, the Pope of the RCC is a just kindly old man. I know of no reason to make any derogatory remarks concerning him. Even if I did, I would probably just chalk it all up to his humanity, which I share with him. It seems your comment is calculated to cast aspersions agai

Re: [TruthTalk] False Critical text

2005-02-22 Thread bborrow26
BLAINE: Actually, Dave H and I agree on ALMOST everything. Nothing too important do we disagree on, I believe. This is true of most Mormons who are up on church doctrines, which is the result of the BoM's influence in this world of secular disagreement. We would both agree, I believe, for insta

Re: [TruthTalk] So Baptist apologizes for Missouri Persecutions

2005-02-21 Thread bborrow26
Missouri Mob Descendant Apologizes to Mormons, Performs Miracles For Immediate Release Jan. 24, 2005 By Greater Things News Service (Not officially affiliated with Ezekiel Conference) Lynn Ridenhour addresses the Ezekiel Conference at the Unitarian Church on Highland Drive in Salt Lake

Re: [TruthTalk]The Land of Jerusalem: birthplace of Jesus

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:45:46 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So if there was a LAND of Jerusalem > Who was Govenor? Blaine: I can't answer this question, except to say there were Kings over the Kingdom of Judah--which likely included more than one "land." Zedekiah of the

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine writes: That would be, as I said, conjectural/philosophical, but my OPINION is that JS's murderers take responsibility not only for any sins Joseph might not have repented of, but for him NOT receiving the blessings intended for him as a result of his faithfulness in keeping the Lord's comma

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, does this not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? I realize this is a philosophical question, one that may not be answerable in light of scripture. Howe

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, does this not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? I realize this is a philosophical question, one that may not be answerable in light of scripture. Howe

Re: [TruthTalk]The Land of Jerusalem: birthplace of Jesus

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Hi Kevin, Did you read the entire article? It also mentions that Jeremiah calls Jerusalem "the Land of Jerusalem" in a Dead Sea Scrolls passage. Jeremiah was a CONTEMPORARY of Lehi, the Book of Mormon prophet who left Jerusalem 600 yrs BC. Please note: " Although the phrase "land of Jerusal

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus born where?

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Hi Kevin, You are wrong and right--In the time of Jesus, the area was the land of Judea, and Jerusalem was a city there in that land. But you have to remember, the Book of Mormon peoples left Jerusalem 600 years--repeat, 600 YEARS-- before the time of Jesus. Things were not the same THEN! S

Re: [TruthTalk]The Land of Jerusalem: birthplace of Jesus

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, You seemed pretty sure the birthplace of Jesus Christ was not Jerusalem. Here is a well-researched, scholarly article done by FARMS. The crux is, "Jerusalem" per se in ancient times included other nearby villages and towns.

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers False prophets

2004-01-06 Thread bborrow26
Blaine writes: Kevin, I gave you some answers to your specific quotes from LDS authorities Brigham Y and others. I did not see what you saw as far as what they meant. What I did see was that they may not have been superb communicators, but the people who listened to them apparently knew what the

Re: [TruthTalk] signed sealed & delivered

2004-01-06 Thread bborrow26
These are interesting observations, thanx Perry. Blaine On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:09:03 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Judy: > > >The apostle Paul who wrote 2/3 of the NT says in his own words > > For what it is worth, Paul wrote more books of the NT than any > othe

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2004-01-06 Thread bborrow26
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:00:02 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There you go, being deceitful Blaine, is it a SIN to hide > information? > Does this QUALIFY as one of your INTERNAL SINS? > Are you trying to pull one over on us? > http://scriptures.lds.org/alma/7 > > Alma 7:

Re: [TruthTalk] Testimony

2004-01-06 Thread bborrow26
**Blaine writes: My testimony, which has been given to me of the spirit, is this: "They draw near unto me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." I testify this is true of some on TT. (:> This is the Lord's word to me, and is not of myself. I first received this several days

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2004-01-06 Thread bborrow26
***Blaine--That seems to have been the problem--thanks--see below: On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:44:53 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers. > >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:11:47 -0700 > > > >Hi Perry, Your writi

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2004-01-05 Thread bborrow26
Hi Perry, Your writing about what Mormons believe, is mostly WRONG! The Church did not take the practice/doctrine of doing baptisms for the dead from the "writings of Joseph Smith." The practice was begun before he died, UNDER HIS DIRECTION. Further, your assertion that Mormons believe Mar

Re: [TruthTalk] Extra-Biblical Revelation

2004-01-05 Thread bborrow26
David wrote: The Bible is not what Jesus promised would guide us into all truth. The Holy Spirit is the promised teacher, counselor, comforter, advocate, and the one that will guide us into all truth. The Bible certainly has functioned in the lives of many of us to bring us to truth, but ultimat

Re: [TruthTalk] MORMON REDEFINITION ALERT

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Perry, I will give you three guesses, and the first two don't count. LOL (Answer:Persons authorized by having had the appropriate Holy PH conferred upon them, and being deemed worthy from a personal standpoint to baptize for the remission of sins, and/or to confer the Gift of the Holy Ghost.

Re: [TruthTalk] MORMON REDEFINITION ALERT

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Hi Judy, In Mormon Jaberwocky, "Gentile" has several meanings, depending on the context. Sometimes it means Christians who have not entered into an authorized covenant relationship with Jesus Christ, sometimes it actually refers to Gentile (Japheth) nations, which are mostly of the Judeo-Christi

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: some thoughts on whether Jesus and Satan were brothers: (I am not sure all Mormons believe as I do, but I think most do) 1) No,Satan is not Jesus's brother, not in the sense that Mormons call one another "brother" as a matter of showing they love and sympathize with one another, but

Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: Kevin, I buy fruit at the supermarket, or direct from growers in season. I like fruit--it is essential to a proper diet. Sorry, but I have over a hundred posts to read--I may get back to this and I may not, in case this does not answer your question. On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:28:26 -0500 [E

Re: [TruthTalk] pagan & Ruben -Here's the deal.

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: Good, Dean, this is what I mean when I said you guys sometimes do some good. I admire you for sticking to your guns!! Hope they continue to not bother you. On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 06:31:40 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What's a man to do? You back him up, that's wh

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: Judy is right to rely on faith in the Lord. I think this question has merit, although I think she is right, it would be unusual to happen. I did have a somewhat similar situation happen in the Air Force. A redheaded bully type guy I was acquainted with in Basic Training tried to pick

Re: [TruthTalk] Blaine's Testimony

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: What started this? Hey, I will bear my testimony if and when the Holy Ghost inspires me to do so--not before, espcially not to satisfy somebody's idle curiosity. On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 06:12:17 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Kevin wrote: > > > If any of you

Re: [TruthTalk] Blaine's Testimony

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:18:03 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Boy I would really Love to hear your testimony. > That is 2 votes Blaine. Blaine: Hmmm, I took a day off, and it seems I am way behind you guys.I do not appreciate your trying to egg me on. Say on boys, i

Re: [TruthTalk] pagan & Ruben/Blaine

2004-01-01 Thread bborrow26
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:29:14 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Blaine: Well, whatever will be, will be--que sera, sera. I will try to stop > being > your judge, Ruben, maybe you can do the same with the Mormons who > worship > Jesus Christ in spirit and truth. I think you have d

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Hmmm, well, what did Pontius Pilate say about the truth? He said, "What is truth?" You obviously believe your Jesus is a truer Jesus than mine. But I sometimes get the inmpression you don't even know what mine is all about. So, . . . here are SOME things we believe about Him: We emu

Re: [TruthTalk] pagan & Ruben/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Well, whatever will be, will be--que sera, sera. I will try to stop being your judge, Ruben, maybe you can do the same with the Mormons who worship Jesus Christ in spirit and truth. I think you have done us wrong, and you really need to take a second look at what you are doing with us. As f

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Can you believe this? I actually agree with this!!! LOL Good comments DaveM. Blaine On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:44:08 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kevin wrote: > > If Mormons believe in the Jesus of the Bible, > > I suppose I could convince you I am a girl scout! > > What you

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus as a communicator

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
So, Perry, you are NOT a Street Preacher? Your comments on Jesus as a communicator were well done--Thought you'd like to know I actually agree with some of what you say! LOL Blaine -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer eve

Re: [TruthTalk] pagan & Ruben

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Ruben wrote: To those that are humble we can be humble and to those that are derogatory..WE CAN BE THAT TOO Blaine wrote: Have you ever heard of the saying, "getting EVEN makes things EVEN worse?" You sound very militant, Ruben. " If you play this game long enough, I fear for you and others wh

Re: [TruthTalk] Jews/ Samaritans

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Dean writes: > I also think this is a good comparison because the Samaritans also > rejected Christ. (Dean is comparing Mormons and samaritans) Blaine writes: First of all, many Samaritans did not reject Christ. He had many become disciples. Secondly, Mormons rejected Christ? Is this a fant

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
As usual, I can't copy or paste anything from your post. Have any idea what is happening? As I mentioned, your posts are the only ones that do that?? However, i will try to reply, hoping you remember what you said--something about being led astray if I turn to art or JS for my truth. Try to re

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Judy wrote: >So, Dean, Is it your philosophy that the "end justifies the means?" Blaine writes: That is a good question, Judy--it goes to the heart of what Dean et al do on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, such as waving underwear, shouting, etc. As I have said before, it is apparently theirc

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:30:58 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the > book Mormon Doctrine. Blaine: The devil is not identified as an Angel of Light, Kevin, he is identified as PRETENDING to be an Angel of Light.

Re: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Dean writes: So Judy- if we remove the beam from our eye isn't it our duty to help others remove theirs. Matt.7:5 Blaine writes: Dean, how can you even see if you had a beam--a board, like maybe a 2 x 4--in your eye. Even if you got it out, you'd be blind in that eye, with a huge patch over it.

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Terry: Billy goats definitely have choice--just not in matters of religion. Thanks for acknowldging that I have choices. Until now, I was pretty sure you Street Preachers were all about imposing your views on us whether we wanted them or not. Does this mean you have repented? Now, go and get t

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Perry, I am glad you read the Davinci Code, it is definitely a must for narrow-minded bible thumping enthusiasts who believe the Bible is the only word of God. The Davinci Code is not only a work of fiction, it is an art form--art forms, as the book points out, are often used to get important id

Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: How many have you LOVED into the Kingdom, Judy? > > Since you do not answer I am left to answer for you; NONE. Blaine wrote: Hey Kevin, If I were not already a member of the true Church of Jesus Christ, and if I had to choose a new religion, I'd check Judy's church out lon

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Ruben wrote: Another Good Point here Kevin. Is it me or have you noticed that Judy has argued with Dean, Kevin, me and now Jim Webber. Is she one of these I've got to have the last word type people or do we have a contentious woman. Judy may we speak to your husband for a minute? Blaine wrote: A

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: > The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the > book Mormon Doctrine. Blaine Writes: I knew that was going to be your theme song, Kevin. Again, I ask, if you know the "answers," why even ask me the questions? Sorry, but I am not going to allow myself to g

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: I read it!! It does not even begin to cover what was removed and/or changed from the Bible, but it is a good start. It does do a good job of pointing out the fundamental FACT that the Bible as it is today is the product of centuries of tinkering, deleting and changing. The big surpris

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Hi Kevin, You haven't answered my question, and you obviously already have the "answers" to yours. I seriously doubt I can change your mind on much of anything. Ask Perry, or maybe Ruben.. Like yourself, they already "know" everything about the LDS Church. Question: Are you a former memb

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Your posts keep going to an attachment. My program will not even copy isolated sentences, words or whatever. It takes too much time to try to answer you posts. What are you doing? Yours are the only ones to do this. Blaine -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, t

Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Judy wrote: "Moses and Abraham both had two wives but not at the same time." Blaine writes: Abraham married Sarai, and later, at Sarai's request, took Hagar, who gave birth to Ishmael. Ishmael was in his 20's when Isaac was born to Sarai, so yes, he was married to both at the same time. Mo

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: Then why do you call Moroni an Angel of light? Blaine: Did I do that? If so, I suppose it was because Moroni appeared in a cloud of light, and had a message which enlightened JS. In JS's own words, "While I was thus in the act of calling upon God, I discovered a light appe

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
That was funny! ROTFL!! Blaine On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:51:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > this is _truth talk_ --what do you expect her to do, curtsy and kiss > your > pontifical ring? > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:24 -0800 "irebukeu" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Is it me or h

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: This is definitely TRUTHtalk . . . On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:42:09 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ruben: > >>We..push..the God of the Bible. > > and he hates whoever you hate, eh? > > g ottoson :: http://poet235.com -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with sa

Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Judy wrote: They were breaking God's law. Read it in Deuteronomy 17:15 -19. Note, the king was not to multiply horses, wives, or gold. Blaine writes: I think this passage (Deut 17:15-17) is speaking of adding non-Israelite women, who were not under the law of Moses, who might turn the heart

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Dean wrote: "He came unto his own first -and thru rejection-turns to the world-which included the Samaritans." Blaine wrote: The above is more of what I call Tradidtional Christian Belief System (TCBS). Jesus said he was not sent BUT to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matt 15:24).

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Terry writes: "Mormons say you can die as lost as a Billy goat and still be saved by someone being baptized for you." Blaine wrote: How lost would I have to be in order to be "lost as a Billy goat," Terry?On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being Totally Lost, and 1 being not lost at all--perfec

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: > What about those that apostacize? Do they still have authority? > Half > > of the first 12 Mormon apostles Apostacized. What happened to > their > > Authority? Blaine writes: I can't understand why you even ask some of your questions, Kevin. You seem to know so much about

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Ruben, The "days of Elijah" reference is Malachi 4:1-6 -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EM

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Are you aware the Catholic Church destroyed approximately 80 religious works/ gospels when compiling the Bible.? Are you aware Constantine, a pagan himself, was the king who called together the council that decided what to include in the Bible and what to reject? Are you aware it was done by a sm

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Perry wrote, "Isn't that just like a Mormon to combine occultic myth with the birth of Jesus? Blaine, you are true to the craft." Blaine writes:Perry, most Mormons despise astrology--I am the exception, not the rule.I understand it fairly well, as I first studied it from the standpoin

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Hi Kevin, The tenor of your writing is . . . a little too testy for my blood--you seem too eager to get into an argument, which I usually try to avoid. Tone it down a little, and I might want to "discuss" something with you. But for now, How about this? Kevin wrote: PAID PROTESTORS?> > > >

Re: [TruthTalk] Grinding Axes

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
DavidM wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong, Judy, but you do seem to make it sound > like > love would never rebuke someone. It is kind of like those who argue > that if you truly loved your children, you would never spank them. Blaine writes: Hmmm, this gives the impression street preachers thi

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Ruben, isn't this message a little out of character with you? I mean, you have NEVER been sacreligious before, why now? (Evil grin) Blaine On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:14:46 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ruben: Hey pagan, I thought that was you..and it is you. Hope you > have a > v

Re: [TruthTalk] Quoting Posts

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Thank you for the clarification, David--sounds good, will do! BlaineB On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:00:46 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine wrote: > > ... your post went to an attachment again when I > > tried to reply. I can't even copy, then paste it > > on this. Any idea why

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/ttexpress

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Logic? ROTFL!! I would think that would be . . . a little bit on the liberal end of the continuum. How about rationalizing (making excuses)? Blaine On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:18:34 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Judy: > Why do you street preachers do this? You assume so much. K

Re: [TruthTalk] Is DaveH a fend?

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Dean, I can't even begin to imagine DaveH sending out viruses to anyone--I think he likes you, Dean, so why would he do that? And pornography? From Dave? Ha! That is the best joke I ever heard. ROTFL!! Seriously, I understand why you are annoyed. I hate it when someone does that--but it u

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Don't hold your breath, Kevin--just answering DavidM's questions, and some of Izzy's took my allotted time for today. If you ask too many questions, many of which I suspect you already know answers to, I will be tied to the computer longer than I can afford. Not that you don't have intriguing que

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Hey, haven't you guys gotten the word?? Jesus was not born on December 25.Too cold then for the shepherds to be out watching their flocks. They would have had their sheep inside enclosures, protected from the weather. Best time for his birthdate? In the Springtime, when the lambs were be

Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:45:58 + "Arsene Lupin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Izzy wrote: Blaine; I hear that JS was rich in wives. Unlike messiah, who had none. Izzy Blaine wrote: It is a matter of record JS had many wives. But so did Solomon, and his father, David. These men were n

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-26 Thread bborrow26
Kevin, I assure you the PH was restored on the date given. I used to celebrate this even as a boy, with others who had been ordained to the A PH. The priesthood after the order of Aaron as it exists in the LDS church today has many parallels with the same PH as it was in OT times. Example: Th

Re: [TruthTalk] Grinding Axes

2003-12-25 Thread bborrow26
Dean and Ruben, I liked your Christmas greeting to DaveH--That sounded motivated by charity--keep up the good word.Some of our posts have been -- a little testy, shall we say?--too much tough-guy stuff and not enough of what I would call the " peace, brother, peace" sort of thing that Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Grinding Axes

2003-12-25 Thread bborrow26
Judy is trying to tell some of us on the list something--her message seems to be that the basis for the gospel of Jesus Christ is love for God (shown by being willing to keep his copmmandments) and love for our fellowman. We all have the Bible scriptures, and DaveH and I have more scriptures besi

[TruthTalk] Happy Yule Day!!

2003-12-25 Thread bborrow26
Hi Perry, your post went to an attachment again when I tried to reply. I can't even copy, then paste it on this. Any idea why this is happening? At any rate, you made a comment to the effect that Milton Hunter had said the Hermatic Pagan religion was similar to both the doctrines of Jesus an

Re: [TruthTalk] Paranoia-should you be?

2003-12-22 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They also collect Personal information on us. Where we live, names, > job, etc. What do the LDS need those things for? By the way the LDS > Church is one of the ONLY churches I know of that has BOUNCERS at > th

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Perry, your messages go to an attachment whenever I try to reply to them. Yours are the only ones that do that. Any idea why? On a short leash? Hmmm, well she has a healthy sense of self esteem. I prefer her that way. BlaineRB: -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:49:03 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Blaine: > Is that a promise? I would love that!! The last name > is BORROWMAN. > > Ruben: > Done. BlaineRB: Uh oh!! Me and my big mouth. I may end up being a Bishop over this. LOL > > Blain

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:41:42 -0600 "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > See John 4:24. God is a Spirit. > Terry **BlaineRB: Terry, I am also a spirit. Just as you are too. This has nothing to say about what else we are--our bodies are the temples of our spirit selves. As Jesus s

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormon ever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, or whatever you choose to call it. We believe that Jesus Christ as the SON is subordinate to the FATHER, and that we are and always will be subordinate to Both.

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:22:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** Actually Judy, from my point of view, it seems you are doing > the > same think (I misspelled "thing" but decided the new word fit > better)--reading your own interpretation into it. Did you get y

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Hi Dean, You wrote, "Are you really worried about our relationship DaveH-or is this an > edge to use in this debate-to confuse truth. Must you always > manipulate some young ignorant Christian to defend you-is that a > smile I see on your face?" I think it is time for me to say to you that Ju

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