what revelations (relevant to biblical
prophecy, then or now) are you talking
about?
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I have only given you warning that
it is the Lord who weighs your boasting
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Salvation
by grace through faith, plus nothing, minus nothing.
DAVEH: Let me know when you want to discuss this, Brother Glenn.
There
is no salvation in Roman Catholic, Church of Christ, 7th Day Adventist,
Jesus Only Pentecostals, or Mormons membership.
Salvation
by g
ShieldsFamily wrote:
While
we should hold him accountable for meanness, surely we dont blame him
for his genetic coderight? Izzy
DAVEH:
That's right, Izzy. But on the other hand, we want to be careful
not to let Dr. Clonenstein use him for any genetic experiments!
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I have only given you warning that it is the Lord who weighs your boasting, so be very careful that your boasting is not considered arrogance to Him, who is Judge
Glenn is the LEAST judgmental person I know.
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Jesus judged motives. Did he sin when he did this, or does he get a
free pass because he supposedly was not really subject to human
weaknesses?
Jesus didn't have to judge motives - he knew the heart of man!
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I am mean and ugly because I stand for salvation
by grace through faith.
DAVEH: Naw Glenn, you only seem that way when
you are standing next to your beautiful and sweet wife!
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My
answer to all this mixing of works and salvation is John 3:16. Salvation
by grace through faith plus nothing minus nothing. John 3:16.
DAVEH: As I have intimated before, I believe many folks who
believe such simply do not understand the nature of salvation. It
i
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I
don't believe in David's revelations. I believe in Biblical revelation.
DAVEH: Glenn, do you believe there were any revelations given outside
the framework of the Bible? And, do you believe there could be revelation
given by God even today?
David,
When will you fi
Iz--May I point out one remarkable
aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what
'belongs' (pres tense) to 'such as these' now , not merely
someday, in the future--like tripping over shelter in the Rock rather
than tripping on rocket science :-) but pls don't ask me
:}
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> David, and fellow TT'rs,
>
>This may be a good point to
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"ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Perry,> > Jesus said, "Let the
little children come to me..the kingdom
>of heaven belongs to such as
these." (Matt 19:14)
Gary wrote:
>you do agree to 'confess' your sin/s, don't
you?
[DavidM:]Yes, of cou
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David, and fellow TT'rs,
This may be a good point to bring up some questions, and I hope that
oth
Gary wrote:
> this text is crystal clear: 'do not let sin reign..',
> ... but, it doesn't say 'do not sin..'
[DavidM:]
It seems to me that saying "do not let sin reign in your mortal
bodies" is the same as "do not sin."
Then leave Luther's translation work alone.
Gary wrote:
>you do agree to
Gary wrote:
> this text is crystal clear: 'do not let sin reign..',
> ... but, it doesn't say 'do not sin..'
It seems to me that saying "do not let sin reign in your mortal bodies"
is the same as "do not sin." What is the difference? If you don't let
sin reign in your body, then you are not sin
Perry wrote:
> Do you really think that it takes all
> of that research to be a Christian?
No. The idea that Jesus Christ came to set us free from sin is not
rocket science. I saw this from reading my Bible when I was 17. I
sincerely do not think that the problem is study or research. The
pro
g:
> Rom 6:12 -- Therefore do not let sin reign in your
> mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
this text is crystal clear: 'do not let sin reign..', either a radical modification of
Jesus' 'be ye perfect' or a perfect understanding of Jesus unplugged; but, it doesn't
say 'do not sin..'
eve
David, and fellow TT'rs,
This may be a good point to bring up some questions, and I hope that
other TT'rs chime in as well.
Many of the points that we discuss on TT require a tremendous amount of
research (biblical and extra-biblical) in terms of scanning, cross
referencing, and word studi
Perry wrote:
> I do not think that material is still around,
> so I guess without a bit of research I cannot
> quote verses on it. Besides, I am sure that
> whatever I find, you can find others that
> refute it.
I believe that the Bible leads us into truth. When we hold to something
that is
Slade wrote:
>1. Inadvertent sin -- the "oops" we all in
> TruthTalk do once in a *great* while.
What evidence do you have that everyone at some point sins
inadvertently? Isn't this really just an excuse for the sin of
carelessness?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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I know this will manufacture or engender a bit of grief, so I apologize at
the forefront.
Paul was a Pharisee before his conversion and claimed his Pharisaic
"membership" even at the close of his l
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Perry wrote:
> Salvation does not remove us from the POWER
> of s
Perry wrote:
> Salvation does not remove us from the POWER
> of sin as you stated below. Our jutstification
> through Christ removes us from the PENALTY of sin
> (which is death), and we enter into [eternal] life.
> ... Sanctification removes us from the POWER of sin,
> which is a gradual pro
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Gary wrote:
> Rom 6:12 -- Therefore do not let sin reign in your
> mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
>
> the Ap Paul knows that sin is presen
Gary wrote:
> Rom 6:12 -- Therefore do not let sin reign in your
> mortal body so that you obey its lusts,
>
> the Ap Paul knows that sin is present; sin
> demands to 'reign' in him; therefore, the
> command--think about it--'do not let sin reign'
> is either a radical modification of JCs 'be
t;definition" I heard regarding Biblical "perfection" is
"whole-hearted."
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> >Rom 6
>Rom 6:12 -- Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its
>lusts,
the Ap Paul knows that sin is present; sin demands to 'reign' in him; therefore, the
command--think about it--'do not let sin reign' is either a radical modification of
JCs 'be ye perfect' or it is exa
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Perry,
you've had it now. You've hit David's sacred cow. The only problem
is I have seen on TT, that he is not perfect. He is a great person, but
far far far fr
David Miller wrote:
> For the sake of the list, I'm going to ask
> you Glenn to limit your posts to two posts
> per day for one week. ... Are you willing
> to work with me on this?
Glenn wrote:
> No, I will not do this. But I will leave TT.
> I understand why you are kicking me off of TT.
No, I will not do this. But I will leave TT. I understand why you are kicking me off of TT. You do not welcome the hard truth on TT. You, my sincere friend, as a hypocrite. You do what you accuse me of doing.
For the sake of the list, I'm going to ask you Glenn to limit your posts
to two pos
David, you have called me a hypocrite. You are dead wrong. You are showing how imperfect you are. What have you got against me?
I have to rebuke you in Jesus name for calling me a hypocrite.
Glenn, you play the hypocrite and you seem
to be the only one who can't see it. Everything
If you have a Church of Christ background you know all the dirt on all the church fathers. You are using a CC attack. The dirt stops CC people from examing the truth.
How many people on TruthTalk knew that Luther rejected the
book of James as not part of the Bible
If you have not attacked Martin Luther, then I have not attacked anyone on TT.
Glenn wrote:
> You have attacked the messenger, and you have
> not refuted salvation by grace through faith,
> plus nothing, minus nothing.
David Miller wrote:
> The term "sola fide" means "faith alone."
> When Luther translated the Bible, he did
> something very much like what the Jehovah's
> Witnesses did with John 1:1. The JW's created
> a translation that added a word to the verse,
> so that John 1:1 says that the Word was "
Perry, you've had it now. You've hit David's sacred cow. The only problem is I have seen on TT, that he is not perfect. He is a great person, but far far far from perfect.
Perry wrote:
> I do believe that we are expected to keep the
> commandments, which are outlined by Jesus in
> the verses
Perry wrote:
> I do believe that we are expected to keep the
> commandments, which are outlined by Jesus in
> the verses below, and in other places in the
> scriptures. However, I do not believe that we
> are expected to live sinless lives...in fact,
> I believe that we cannot. The verse "be ye
You didn't come clean on this verse. You misused the verse out of context to defend your works/salvation. You are slick by asking a question and not making a statement, but I can read between the lines.
Glenn wrote:
> What you say above means one cannot save
> themselves. I think you know
faith, I also imply all that leads
up to developing true faith.
Perry
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>
Dave, you have never understood Biblical saving faith and the difference between it and intellectual faith.
DAVEH: Perry..Does repentance have anything to do with salvation? IOW, can those who don't repent be saved?
> It is totally a work of our Lord and
> Savior. To God be the glory for
lieve that it is the Holy spirit that convicts us of our sin in
> the first place and leads us to belief. Otherwise, I fear that we might all
> be lost.
>
>By all means, when I say that one has faith, I also imply all that leads
> up to developing true faith.
>
> Perry
first place and leads us to belief. Otherwise, I fear that we might all
be lost.
By all means, when I say that one has faith, I also imply all that leads
up to developing true faith.
Perry
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1CO 15:2 By which also ye are
saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have
believed in vain.
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"Charles P. Locke" wrote:
> Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand that salvation comes
> through faith, "not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph 2:8,9) There
> is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves.
DAVEH: Perry..Does repentance have anything to do with salvation? IOW,
Terry, How very true. You are quite astute. Izzy
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You are right. I was trying
to give an illustration of the context. The context of Acts 2:40 had to
do with the evil civilization around the
You are right. I was trying to give an illustration of the context. The context of Acts 2:40 had to do with the evil civilization around them. Below was what I was trying to illustrate. This verse is not about getting saved from my sins but about get saved from physical destruction in context.
Glenn said...
What you say above means one cannot save
themselves. I think you know the context of Acts 2:40. If
the Republican Guard in Baghdad wants to save themselves, then they must
separate themselves from Saddam H. That is the context of Acts
2:40.
Uhhh... whatever happened to "
Again, David, you act like the Church of Christ. I think you should start attending one. You might like it. The Church of Christ attacks the messenger when they can't refute the message. You have attacked the messenger, and you have not refuted salvation by grace through faith, plus nothing, mi
Glenn wrote:
> But you double talk. If what you say
> above is true, then salvation is by grace
> through faith, plus nothing, minus nothing.
I see your position as double talk. You say that works follow faith,
but then you balk if someone suggests that someone might not have saving
faith if
Perry wrote:
> David, you are right. I was taught that by
> preachers. But after I was taught that, I
> learned that it was this truth that awakened
> Martin Luther and thus was one of the foundational
> tenets of the reformation. Sola Fide, I believe it
> was called.
Just because it was one
to the second question I asked: "If he did, what does that do to the law under the new covenant?"Perry>From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers>
I use the term salvation in a common sense way. I use the term to mean I have had my sins forgiven and the Holy Spirit lives within me.
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> Hey, glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand[..]salvation
what is 'salvation'?
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Glenn wrote:
> I believe that George Washington was President
> of the United States but I am not believing in
> GW to take me to heaven. ...
> I am not believing in church membership,
> perfectionism, baptism, Lord's Supper,
> works, etc., to take me to heaven.
I haven't heard anyone on Truth
in His response?
Perry
* 5046. teleios, tel'-i-os; from G5056; complete (in various applications of
labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neut. (as noun, with
G3588) completeness:--of full age, man, perfect.
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Tremendous post.
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ftr, the foregoing analogy seems like very
preachable stuff by (e.g.) DrGT and[Perry]...
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+ "Charles P. Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Hey, glenn, you are not alone. I, too, un
Glenn wrote:
> I believe that George Washington was President
> of the United States but I am not believing in
> GW to take me to heaven. ...
> I am not believing in church membership,
> perfectionism, baptism, Lord's Supper,
> works, etc., to take me to heaven.
I haven't heard anyone on Truth
What you are saying below is a smoke screen to the truth. It doesn't address the point that the law if over. It is much ado about nothing.
Saying, "It is finished" does not mean that everything is finished.
Jesus was talking about his destiny to be the sacrifice for the sins of
the world. That'
Terry wrote:
> If Jesus had not fulfilled the law, He could
> not have stated "IT IS FINISHED"!
> How much more dows it take?
Are you saying that you believe that every prophecy has already been
fulfilled? Are you saying that the resurrection and eternal judgment
has already taken place?
Saying
Terry, there is Biblical saving faith and there is intellectual faith. I believe that George Washington was President of the United States but I am not believing in GW to take me to heaven.
I am not believing in church membership, perfectionism, baptism, Lord's Supper, works, etc., to take me to
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"Charles P. Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Hey, Glenn, you are not alone.
I, too, understand[..]salvation
what is 'salvation'?
you know we're in the aftermath of a huge
snowstorm here, in Denver..in which i saw numerous examples of 'salvation' (i
and ignore
the thousands of other verses that give us the whole
picture.
Blessings,
Terry
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Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I,
There is no need to show you any Bible. You explain away the Bible with humanistic reasoning. Your mind is made up so why confuse you with the truth? You re blinded because of easy believism. If you try to save yourself, David, you will go straight to hell.
The verse about "save yourself". Pl
WRONG. IT DOES NOT COME FROM INSTANT BELIEVISM. David, you are as blinded when it comes to this as any person I have ever met. You can't see beyond easy believism to ANYTHING. Because of this you are taken in (deceived) by a works salvation.
I think if you are honest with examining where y
Perry wrote:
> Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand
> that salvation comes through faith, "not of works,
> lest any man should boast" (Eph 2:8,9)
Amen. I believe this too.
Perry wrote:
> There is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves.
> It is totally a work of our Lord and Savior.
Much learning can make a person "mad". David has become better and better at explaining away salvation by grace through faith. Common Sense is greatly lacking in these detailed humanistic explanations.
Surely, Paul (as in Eph. 3:4 and John 20:31 for a quick example) wrote so as to be understoo
ce.
Perry
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Gal. 5:1. I honestly believe the Bible teaches a person backslides when he
goes from salvation by grace through faith
I am also interested in hearing your answer to the second question I asked:
"If he did, what does that do to the law under the new covenant?"
Perry
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Gal. 5:1. I honestly believe the Bible teaches a person backslides when he goes from salvation by grace through faith to mixing salvation with the law. Gal. 5:4. It is obvious that Christ has become of no effect to 7th Day Adventists and others on TT that take up for the 7th Day cult.
The reason
Jesus said he came to fulfil the law in 17, and then in 18 said that nothing will pass from the law until all be fulfilled. My question is, did Jesus fulfil the law? If he did, what does that do to the law under the new covenant? If he did not, then what did he mean when he said he came to
I don't believe in David's revelations. I believe in Biblical revelation.
David, When will you finish telling us about your Sabbath revelation? Izzy
What you are saying David, is NOT what the Bible says, but this is nothing new here on TT with the non-Christian view.
Jesus did NOT fulfill all the law. His coming to fulfill the law is
progressive. He fulfilled many parts, such as the part requiring
atonement for sin, ushering in the Kingdom o
Slade si cool because he is a Judaizer which people are condemned to hello fire in Galatians. But I am mean and ugly because I stand for salvation by grace through faith. You are sick too Izzy.
Slade, You are so cool! J Izzy
Since when you are God, Izzy?
Michael D: Slade, one wonders if glorified bodies like Jesus' which walked through walls, will ever get tired and need to rest John says that when we see Jesus we will be like Him. Paul says that we shall be changed. One wonders what would be the need of a Sab
I WARN YOU THAT YOU ARE DEFILING THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. YOU JUST INSULTED JEHOVAH GOD, THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE BY TEACHING "IN FOR HELL" DOCTRINE.
WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT YOU ARE TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO DEFILE THE NAME OF JEHOVAH TOO!! YOU ARE SICK! YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER
You obviously are a very sick religious bigot. I guess I need to treat you like a baby and a sinner headed to hell. The New Testament does not say so. WHO GIVES A FLIP WHAT 7TH DAY ADVENTIST SAY???
NOW LET ME ANSWER THAT. JESUS DOES AND HE CONDEMNED TO AN EVERLASTING HELL FIRE THE PH
David, When will you finish telling us about your Sabbath revelation? Izzy
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Perry wrote:
> David, it seems you have omitted some parts of this
> passage that might help understand it. Here is the
> preceding verse (v17), and the full version of
> the one you quoted (v18):
> Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the
> law, or the prophets: I am not come to dest
Slade, You are so cool! J Izzy
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We should
worship YHVH on
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D: Slade, one wonders if glorified bodies like Jesus' which walked
through walls, will ever get tired and need to rest John says that when we
see Jesus we will be like Him. Paul says that we shall be changed. One
wonders what would
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The
Bible does not say so. The Bible tells us no such thing. Romans
14:5-6. Why don't you call God Je
TT no longer has a Protestant foundation. The inmates have taken over the asylum.
The Bible does not say so. The Bible tells us no such thing. Romans 14:5-6. Why don't you call God Jehovah? I call your doctrine a lie hatched out of hell by Satan himself. Who are you to judge another? Romans 14:4.
Stupid statement no. 2 - Friday ends at midnight now. Saturday begins at
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Izzy,
is not honest with herself. He takes up for Judaizers and their "go to
hell" attitude, but she gives people like m
Izzy, is not honest with herself. He takes up for Judaizers and their "go to hell" attitude, but she gives people like me, who believe in salvation by grace through faith, plus nothing minus nothing, sharp jags.
The people who require Saturday worship get her "niceness", but if anyone disagrees
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> > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>Glenn wrote:> > > David, you
There is a difference in REFUSING to be called a Christian and honestly be mistaken on wearing the Divine name of Christian as was a fulfillment of prophecy.
So I guess we might agree. But we really don't because the people you are referring to REFUSE to wear the name Christian. Now, I do not ju
Law is fulfilled. Study Hebrews. The veil has been torn from top to bottom.
Please explain to me what you do with his passage (Mat. 5:18)?
You twice wrong. I do not teach that. Saturday worship is fulfilled and no longer required. You are wrong on what I said. BUT more importantly you are wrong on what Jesus said.
Glenn teaches that keeping the Sabbath holy is no longer law. Jesus
taught that not one jot or tittle will pass fr
Yes, I am judging right from wrong. I am not judging your motives. For example, I am judging as wrong the requirement for Saturday worship.
NOW, if I say, Izzy, the reason you want to play like you believe in Saturday worship is to have a day where you have an excuse to not do anything. You c
This is the problem, DavidM. You are not Jesus. You did not die for my sins. I do not serve you. If you did die for my sins it would do not good because you are a sinner. You cannot forgive my sins. You are not Jesus. You cannot judge motives without sinning and playing God. This is how you
Glenn to DaveH - Agreed, except for the grand entrance. :-)
Whether one worships on Saturday or Sunday or whenever, doesn't
concern me as much as whether one feels the need to have reverence for the Lord on a regular basis. I'm sure the way you explained your believe was meant to agitate some o
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Glenn wrote:
> David, your whole comments below are built
> upon a false foundation. The false foundation
> is that Saturday worship is still a law.
> This is a sick foundation.
The reason this is my foundation is because Jesus taught:
Mat 5:18 For veril
My answer to all this mixing of works and salvation is John 3:16. Salvation by grace through faith plus nothing minus nothing. John 3:16. Of course I have heard this explained away on TT. Much talk about salvation by grace, but when all the posting is said and done, it is not what is believed.
Glenn wrote:
> David, quit taking up for Judiazers.
> This is a grave doctrinal error.
> Quit taking up for Jews that refuse
> to wear the name of Christ. This
> is grave doctrinal error. This is
> the reason I left TT and will leave
> it again.
I think you do not understand my positio
Glenn wrote:
> David, your whole comments below are built
> upon a false foundation. The false foundation
> is that Saturday worship is still a law.
> This is a sick foundation.
The reason this is my foundation is because Jesus taught:
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and ear
righteous judgement”;
not to refrain from judging. It is you who are judging me.
Izzy
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