Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.9 Released

2021-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > # Viking 1.9 - released 2020-03-20 In NEWS it says 1.8 I think. I have updated pkgsrc, and it builds and runs on NetBSD 9 amd64. With gtk2 I got a build error, but after flipping to gtk3 the build was ok and it worked, so I decided that was good enough, as people will

Re: [Viking-devel] Calculating UTM coordinate from screen position

2020-04-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > The projection is done based on the zone at the center position. > > The zone is for the east<->west, whereas the designation letter is the > latitude band, being 8 degrees wide, which Viking currently shows as part of > the UTM readout. > > This use of the from screen p

Re: [Viking-devel] Calculating UTM coordinate from screen position

2020-04-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > I don't think Viking is used much in UTM as a general purpose viewer - > since there aren't many if any tile sources in UTM projections. More > typical is probably using a GeoRef layer to view an existing map image > (this is the way I use it in order to test it's working)

Re: [Viking-devel] another portability nit

2020-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
On 2020-03-21 09:07, Robert Norris wrote: NB We spoke about the $RANDOM issue back in November 2016. I had a note in the patchfile that I might have sent mail, but not 100% clear. I had just updated pkgsrc to 1.8 and found the problem still there. This one turns out to be quite different,

[Viking-devel] another portability nit

2020-03-18 Thread Greg Troxel
In configure, we patch $(INTLTOOL_V_MERGE)_it_tmp_dir=tmp.intltool.$$RANDOM to $(INTLTOOL_V_MERGE)_it_tmp_dir=tmp.intltool.not-random $RANDOM is a bashism not specified by POSIX, and not available in a number of shells. (It is available in NetBSD's /bin/sh, but pkgsrc has a bunch of portab

Re: [Viking-devel] pkgsrc updated to 1.8, stray visibility defines fix

2020-03-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> #define _XOPEN_SOURCE > > Simply removing it is the best option, as it compiles and runs on Linux OK > without this line. > I've no idea why it was put in, but the line originates from the initial code > creation back in 2005. > Some background on this define: > > https

[Viking-devel] pkgsrc updated to 1.8, stray visibility defines fix

2020-03-17 Thread Greg Troxel
I have updated pkgsrc to 1.8. I haven't really shaken it out, but it starts up fine on NetBSD 8 amd64. I have a stray patch from before. I am not sure what's going on with the original visibility define, and why it needs to be different on sunos. In general, I lean to not having any visibility

Re: [Viking-devel] Released Version 1.7

2019-01-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> I am trying to make a minimal update first. >> I had to disable geoclue and oauth, both listed in the announcement. > >> There was a new requirement for nettle, not explained. I added >> --disable-nettle as suggested. > > libnettle is used instead of having a copy of M

Re: [Viking-devel] Released Version 1.7

2019-01-21 Thread Greg Troxel
I'm updating the pkgsrc package. I am trying to make a minimal update first. I had to disable geoclue and oauth, both listed in the announcement. There was a new requirement for nettle, not explained. I added --disable-nettle as suggested. I see a "test ==" patch was applied at some point - tha

Re: [Viking-devel] 1.6.2 buglets

2016-11-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > Good spot on the '==' issue. Do you need a proper patch to configure.in, or is it easier for you to just fix it. > However the $RANDOM issue as far as I can tell is created by one of > the 'random' autotools components, not in Viking itself. On my system > (Automake ver

Re: [Viking-devel] 1.6.2 changes from 1.6

2016-11-02 Thread Greg Troxel
I tried adding gtk-doc as a dependency and doing --enable-gtk-doc, but then it failed to build; I have mapnik disabled (because I haven't gotten to checking it in packaging and trying it as an option, not because I don't want to), and apparently the gtk-scan looks for the symbol even though the bu

[Viking-devel] 1.6.2 buglets

2016-11-02 Thread Greg Troxel
I know I should make separate commits and push a branch, but I have the following in pkgsrc. The issues are the use of $RANDOM and ==, both of which are outside of POSIX's sh specification and hence unportable. == is easy; it should just be = and there is no downside. RANDOM may be harder, but

[Viking-devel] 1.6.2 changes from 1.6

2016-11-02 Thread Greg Troxel
I am (belatedly) updating the viking package in pkgsrc from 1.6 to 1.6.2. I am seeing the following diff in the list of installed packages. I realize there are two new translations, but there are no more help files and there is viking-C.omf instead of datasources.xml. Is this expected? Or a cl

Re: [Viking-devel] Four more questions about Viking source code

2016-05-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > To be honest I don't know what/why/how the use of this 'One Zone' for > UTM helps anything. I agree UTM is used less and less as there are fewer maps in UTM (vs maps that used to be in UTM reprojected into Web Mercator). When using UTM, you can get awkwardness when the

Re: [Viking-devel] RFC: what about SourceForge?

2015-11-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> - Mailinglists are necessary, as are areas to put release tarballs. I >> think it's unhelpful of github to run projects and provide neither of >> these. > > Github do offer release tarballs - automatically generated against > tagged versions of the repository. As in the

Re: [Viking-devel] RFC: what about SourceForge?

2015-11-23 Thread Greg Troxel
My $0.02, and sorry if this is redundant: - I am no longer comfortable with sourceforge. - Free Software should be hosted by a charitable non-profit (501c3) that has advancing Free Software as a substantial part of its mission. That does not include github :-) - I agree that self-hosting is

Re: [Viking-devel] RFC: what about SourceForge?

2015-09-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > So I think it is probably time to leave this hosting for somewhere else. > What's your opinions? Agreed it's time to go. > Any idea for the best new hosting solution? > - Github > - Bitbucket > - GitLab > - http://savannah.gnu.org/ Of these, I prefer savannah.nong

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] (against trunk) - Interpolate Timestamps between first and last TP

2015-03-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > I'm debating about whether to include the interpolate times code: I > wonder if you could describe the usage of the 'Interpolate Times' a > bit more, as I'd also like to include a short description in the Help > manual of why one may want to equalize the speeds across a t

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking Map Generation with Mapnik C++ Library.

2015-02-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > Tiles are cached in directory specified in the Mapnik Rendering layer > property (it defaults to ~/.viking-maps/MapnikRendering - so for > different stylesheets it's wise to change this to a specific directory > per style) - the cache is always in the OSM Slippymap layout

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking Map Generation with Mapnik C++ Library.

2015-02-01 Thread Greg Troxel
Wow, that's very cool. It would be really nice if the mapnik dependency could somehow be additional rather than either/or. From a packaging viewpoint, I'd like to see a way to have base viking viking-mapnik but perhaps what's unwarranted as it's not clear that mapnik is that heavy. Thinki

Re: [Viking-devel] Windows - Removing GPSBabel from the Viking Install

2014-10-06 Thread Greg Troxel
That sounds fine; I think gpsbabel should not be included.For packaging systems, it's far better to just make viking depend on gpsbabel than to have an included copy, especially if there are security issues in gpsbabel. I would say that by default on Unix, it makes sense to try $(PREFIX)/bin/

Re: [Viking-devel] Segmentation fault with git HEAD

2014-08-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Nick Allen writes: > Sorry, most of the technical stuff referred to is above my head, but I > may be able to help with an explanation of why the technical people > put a loop in. > > At one point, when the age limit for a tile was reached, and the > programme was started, it immediately deleted

Re: [Viking-devel] A shared tile cache

2014-04-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > For the tile servers currently offered on the main osm.org website I would > name them: > > MapQuest_Open > OSM_Cycle > OSM_Humanitarian > OSM_Mapnik > OSM_Transport sounds fine. > Of course one could use spaces instead of underscores to make things > interesting...

Re: [Viking-devel] A shared tile cache

2014-03-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Yuri D'Elia writes: > I'd like any of the developers to read this draft about a common shared > cache that I'd like to implement in JOSM: > > https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/SharedTileCache Generally this seems sensible. A few comments: There should be a way to configure the max size used

Re: [Viking-devel] Proposed Minor Features

2014-03-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > A deeper question is how maps.xml extension file is distributed, since > Viking doesn't directly control this, although the data/maps.xml is > designed to be installed into /usr/share/viking or whatever the path > is. I don't follow "doesn't directly control this". It s

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking cache directory

2014-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
I'm also using JOSM heavily when contributing to OSM, and I'm trying to save on bandwidth by trying to share the imagery cache between them. I've already submitted the changes to JOSM's tracker, so that it simply creates a directory hierarchy in the classical on-disk tile format (Z/X/Y.

Re: [Viking-devel] Proposed Minor Features

2014-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
My leaning is that while having a tile sources list on the wiki is great, the builtin set should be curated to be a good set for most people. So that definitely means pruning ones that don't work, but also being judicious about what to add. It might be reasonable to have the 5 layers that openst

Re: [Viking-devel] Alternative Route Finder Tool

2014-01-19 Thread Greg Troxel
It's great that you've added a feature. I will try to find time to play with it. One comment, perhaps not apt, but it would be nice in the user interface somehow for a user to be clearly aware of what information is being sent off machine. Another thought, is that OSMand has route calculation c

Re: [Viking-devel] Export via GPSbabel

2013-11-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > I note it says "IMPORTANT: Do not port to the new system if the > application still needs to run under GNOME 2. Yelp 2 does not > recognize the new help system." > > Is this important for us? I guess it means help wouldn't work on a > MATE desktop. My opinion is that whi

Re: [Viking-devel] Export via GPSbabel

2013-11-06 Thread Greg Troxel
There is many things to do now. For example, allowing such "export" feature at the File->Export level. I also realized that this is one more "export" sub-menu entry. From the simple user point of view, a single "Export" dialog would certainly be better, allowing export to GPX, KML and any

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.5 Released

2013-10-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > After some thought, I think I was conflating two issues - such that > the change directory "answer", works only in limited cases. > > In the code, the use of GTK function > gtk_file_chooser_set_current_folder() on opening files via the GUI, > should address the SourceForg

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.5 Released

2013-10-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > In order to support Relative Filenames (within primarily Viking files) > and to (re)opening from where one last opened a file, > Viking changes it's working directory to the last successfully opened > directory. At first glance this sounds broken. > In the specific use

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.5 Released

2013-10-27 Thread Greg Troxel
I have prepared but not committed a pkgsrc update for 1.5. However, I am seeing some odd behavior (on a mac, that I think I also saw on NetBSD). I tend to do viking gpx.viking ETREX30-archive/2013-10-01\ * to display all the tracks from a given (UTC of course :-) day. Under 1.4.2, this wor

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.5 Plan to Release by Sept 6th

2013-09-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> Building (on netbsd-5, i386, gtk2+-2.24.17nb5), it basically seems to >> work. However, before I reran autogen and configure1, it failed with: >> >> garminsymbols.c:117: error: 'wp_exit_large_pixbuf' undeclared here >> (not in a function) >> garminsymbols.c:302: error

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.5 Plan to Release by Sept 6th

2013-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Building (on netbsd-5, i386, gtk2+-2.24.17nb5), it basically seems to work. However, before I reran autogen and configure1, it failed with: garminsymbols.c:117: error: 'wp_exit_large_pixbuf' undeclared here (not in a function) garminsymbols.c:302: error: 'wp_helipad_large_pixbuf' undeclared he

Re: [Viking-devel] Gnome Maps and GeoClue 2

2013-08-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Maps > [2] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/geoclue > > The first event brings a new competitor to viking, depending the goals of > the project. We can also consider the opportunity to revise the viking's > goals in order to avoid duplication an

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.4.2 Released

2013-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Packaging nit comments: I'd prefer to see sources in the same place, rather than a new directory. But I've now adjusted pkgsrc to expect the version. So in the future, please either move to a src directory that just has all versions, with no structural changes, or always use the versi

[Viking-devel] avoiding requests for unavailable zoom

2013-03-05 Thread Greg Troxel
't work at zN and stop, sort of like Path MTU Discovery :-). Also, we could enlarge the last level we have, instead of blank. Greg Troxel pgpCwjqRV5ZJF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Symantec Endpoint Protect

Re: [Viking-devel] translation update

2013-03-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> Hello, >> I step in the translation of viking after some time and I'm not sure >> how to distinguish translation of >> Track and Route. > > Thank you very much for the translation efforts. > >> I expect that basic difference is that Track comes from device (and >>

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.4 Released

2013-02-11 Thread Greg Troxel
nstalled figures. commit 1f2516923e1d8cf4c8d63250a2c665cdb3df3b32 Author: Greg Troxel Date: Mon Feb 11 20:17:53 2013 -0500 help/Makefile.am: explicitly list figures. diff --git a/help/Makefile.am b/help/Makefile.am index 993e671..39ef073 100644 --- a/help/Makefile.am +++ b/help/Makefile.am

Re: [Viking-devel] Imminent Viking 1.4 Release

2013-02-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> The NetBSD nan patch is integrated; thanks again (I'm sure I sent this >> in a long time ago :-). > > Not sure when ( almost before my time! ) Sorry, I am confused. It is in my local tree as a patch that I rebase, and hence in the tarball I generated. >> make distchec

Re: [Viking-devel] Imminent Viking 1.4 Release

2013-02-06 Thread Greg Troxel
An update: I am confused about the netbsd NAN workaround patch. It was in my git tree and thus in my tarball :-) I'll carry this in pkgsrc; please disregard, at least for now. If --enable-gtk-doc is not passed, gmake dist builds a defective distfile without the help/ directory. Argua

Re: [Viking-devel] Imminent Viking 1.4 Release

2013-02-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > Thus as far as I'm concerned posting some messages to this mailing > list about the release intention is good enough. > > NB I had already responded to Greg, and (I believe) he's happy with > the git release method That's fine. I package a lot of things, and sometimes I

Re: [Viking-devel] Imminent Viking 1.4 Release

2013-02-04 Thread Greg Troxel
When it's almost ready, can you make a candidate release tarball, using the same mechanism as you will use for the release, and put it up as viking-1.4rc0.tar.gz? That way I can test the packaging path, and others can too, and we can fix anything small. pgp_uy6GVpkBN.pgp Description: PGP signa

Re: [Viking-devel] Mapping with bearings and Viking.

2013-01-02 Thread Greg Troxel
[intersection problem] It might be better to have a command-line program that takes a GPX file and a file with: true_bearing waypoint_name and outputs a GPX file with a single waypoint. See the program 'gama' which can do this, but not with GPX. pgpwMVdkqVh31.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Viking-devel] [RFC] Releasing 1.4 before Christmas

2012-12-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Sounds fine to me, especially if you mean "release what's on master" vs "merge a ton of stuff and then release in a rush" :-) pgps8MaqruS8t.pgp Description: PGP signature -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote supp

Re: [Viking-devel] Out of date maps

2012-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Phil writes: > On 09/11/12 11:06, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> You could edit OSM to make your town up >> to date (without copying from proprietary maps, of course). I've done >> that in my town, including entering trails, so that OSM is now the best >> m

Re: [Viking-devel] Out of date maps

2012-11-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Phil writes: > On 09/11/12 11:06, Greg Troxel wrote: >> As I understand it, the terms of service for google do not permit it to >> be used with viking (directly, and they don't permit downloading and >> saving bits, as I understand it). > > Thanks for the quick

Re: [Viking-devel] Out of date maps

2012-11-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Phil writes: > I've played with Viking for a week or so and now I'm keen to get hold of > a more recent map for the town than the one available from Open Street > Map. Their map is at least 15 years old. On the other hand, the map from > Google is up to date and correct. > > So my question is

Re: [Viking-devel] OSM License Attribution Change? (ODBL)

2012-09-15 Thread Greg Troxel
If we can make the attribution have a link to OSM's license page, then I think we will have done reasonably at satisfying the intent. -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in produ

Re: [Viking-devel] RIP msrmaps.com/terraserver; welcome CalTopo!

2012-05-03 Thread Greg Troxel
For the directories to look for, I think $(pkgdatadir) as provided by autoconf/automake is the good one. Can someone confirm this option? for files provided by viking tarball, only For "/etc" related I will use @sysconfigdir@. for machine-wide viking config, sounds good. This should defa

Re: [Viking-devel] RIP msrmaps.com/terraserver; welcome CalTopo!

2012-05-02 Thread Greg Troxel
While I agree that typically a single user will use viking on a computer, I think it should remain clean with respect to ${prefix}/share not being modified, $etcdir being system-wide config, and ~/.viking for per-user config. In pkgsrc, the distribution default maps.xml would be put in /usr/pkg/s

[Viking-devel] [Greg Troxel] CVS commit: pkgsrc/geography/viking

2012-04-23 Thread Greg Troxel
In case anyone else is using pkgsrc... I've updated pkgsrc to 1.3, and it works ok on NetBSD/i386. --- Begin Message --- Module Name:pkgsrc Committed By: gdt Date: Tue Apr 24 01:19:58 UTC 2012 Modified Files: pkgsrc/geography/viking: Makefile PLIST distinfo Log Message:

Re: [Viking-devel] background jobs/threads limit?

2012-04-01 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > I think a good improvement would be to use a threadpool per maps > provider. By this way, we can set the size of the pool for each maps > provider, without reducing downloading performances when using > multiple maps providers at the same time. That sounds easy enou

Re: [Viking-devel] skip-same patch

2012-01-12 Thread Greg Troxel
"Theodore B. Ruegsegger" writes: >> From: gdt >> But, what I do is >> >> viking gpx.viking track.gpx waypoint.gpx > > It's not clear to me from the documentation what's going on > here. You're loading three files, yes? I assume one of them > (track.gpx?) is from the GPSr; where are you gettin

Re: [Viking-devel] skip-same patch

2012-01-11 Thread Greg Troxel
Nick Allen writes: > All my tracks, hiking, car & cycle, are 1 second interval, & I > frequently deal with multiple tracks created during the course of a > days cycling or walking. > > The majority of my tracks are created by a Garmin Oregon 300. When I That's basically what I do, with Oregon 4

[Viking-devel] background jobs/threads limit?

2012-01-08 Thread Greg Troxel
I think am seeing what seems to be too many simultaneous downloads from osm, but I'm not sure. Where is the configuring for the max number of requests at once to some site? I would think this should be 2 or 4, but not more. I am wondering if I am getting throttled, and would like to set it to 1

[Viking-devel] skip-same patch

2012-01-08 Thread Greg Troxel
It looks like someone (Rob?) has integrated my skip_same patch to only draw points if they are different from the previous - thanks! I am curious what people think of the drawing speed, especially those who routinely take 1s tracklogs when hiking. pgpphulTRnZmt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Viking-devel] OpenStreetMap Tile usage policy

2011-10-31 Thread Greg Troxel
So probably we should: drop osm tiles from default menu (probably) in the new version, make config files with the current mapnik layer not get mapnik tiles (maybe) make sure the user can configure a map layer with a tile server URL easily make sure the user-agent is recognizably di

Re: [Viking-devel] Google Maps

2011-10-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Jordi Hortigüela writes: > I use viking to build tracks for walking, biking whatever unfortunatelly all > maps collection that comes with default with no cover my local area near > Barcelona. I would suggest learning about openstreetmap and fixing the map in your area. Downtown looks very well

Re: [Viking-devel] Import file via gpsbabel

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >>I will try to take a look. One concern is that gpsbabel seems inclined >>to require QT for the command-line version! But it seems likely better >>to put up with that bloat than to do anything else. > > > It shouldn't do, depending on how it's packaged. > > For Debian

Re: [Viking-devel] Import file via gpsbabel

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Troxel
http://repo.or.cz/w/viking/guyou.git/shortlog/refs/heads/import-via-gpsbabel to grab that locally: git remote add guyou git://repo.or.cz/viking/guyou.git git remote update -p pgpQXGqC5Z6BP.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: [Viking-devel] Import file via gpsbabel

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Troxel
As many of you already know, viking uses gpsbabel for many features. Most of them concern format conversions. But, currently, only some formats are offered via viking. I not really know why viking does not support all formats supported by gpsbabel. And recently, I discovered that gpsbabe

Re: [Viking-devel] tile age 30s ???

2011-05-24 Thread Greg Troxel
I've just found the "Tile usage policy" of OSM. They request downloaders use HTTP Expiry Header or 1 week age per default. We have to change the value in Viking's code. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy OK, so in order to be good OSM citizens change the units to day

Re: [Viking-devel] Using local maps: how?

2011-05-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Viking displays the map in every UTM zone. In practice this is rarely an issue since most people don't have maps that cover more than one zone. Probably true. USGS DRGs are free, so if I were more together I'd have more of them and would suffer aliasing. pgphz0eP2LW3p.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [Viking-devel] Using local maps: how?

2011-05-20 Thread Greg Troxel
But probably implies local adjustments? That would explain some discrepancies in scale I am seeing. In theory I should have 5 meters per pixel but end up having to say 7 for a better match. All these local adjustments will render my automation quite difficult. Ideally, I would like to

Re: [Viking-devel] Map autodownload default.

2011-05-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > Any one have an idea why the maps download default is off? > > . It seems unchanged since the original version (in 2005) > . Possibly in the beginning Viking had problems if no internet > connection available. > . Most users would now always have an always on connection,

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.0.2 and 1.1 Projections

2011-05-17 Thread Greg Troxel
FWIW: I tried converting the gpx files from WGS84 to NAD27 and using the geotiffs with those tracks under viking. That still didn't work, even though the gpx transforms looked correct. That may be because NAD27 uses a different ellipsoid, so converting coordinates that are in NAD27 but tre

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.0.2 and 1.1 Projections

2011-05-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > 2011/5/14 Greg Troxel : >> >> I haven't tried geotiff, but I do have DRG images for my region (in >> NAD27).   If you could send a note how you configure that, I'll try it. > > I don't know what NAD27 is. AFAIK, currently

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.0.2 and 1.1 Projections

2011-05-14 Thread Greg Troxel
I haven't tried geotiff, but I do have DRG images for my region (in NAD27). If you could send a note how you configure that, I'll try it. I wonder if viking should depend on proj. pgpTNWHc5IXqh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Viking-devel] high Xorg CPU usage?

2011-05-13 Thread Greg Troxel
E.g. I am on a bike tour, usually about 4 hours I also get around 14400 track points. The track that provoked my complaint was similar. Except I was visiting town boundary markers as an official government function :-) http://www.lexort.com/perambulation-2010/ In my Pentium 1.86GHz 2GB RA

Re: [Viking-devel] high Xorg CPU usage?

2011-05-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Greg Troxel writes: > I started up viking with a GPX layer of about 14000 trackpoints (1s > tracklog), and on zooming in and out see Xorg busy for several seconds. > > This seems worse than it used to, but I'm not sure. > > I've long wanted to omit X drawing calls f

[Viking-devel] high Xorg CPU usage?

2011-05-10 Thread Greg Troxel
I started up viking with a GPX layer of about 14000 trackpoints (1s tracklog), and on zooming in and out see Xorg busy for several seconds. This seems worse than it used to, but I'm not sure. I've long wanted to omit X drawing calls for adjacent trackpoints that have the same screen coordinates.

[Viking-devel] tile age 30s ???

2011-05-10 Thread Greg Troxel
The default for tile age seems to be 30s. This seems way too short. While someone actively mapping in OSM might want to reload, it seems like map tiles are relatively static over that kind of timescale. I have set the tile age to 604800s (1 week).It seems rude to OSM to recheck tiles more of

Re: [Viking-devel] git repositories?

2011-05-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: >> It looks like Rob is now working directly in the SF repo. > > Since I have commit privileges, 'simple' fixes / small changes get > applied directly to the SF repo. > This is a maintainer thing as they don't necessarily need any feedback > before being applied. That's to

[Viking-devel] 1.1 stable?

2011-05-02 Thread Greg Troxel
I noticed 1.1 was released, but it's labeled "pilot" rather than stable. But, I wonder if it works better than 1.0 for most users. Specfically, I am contemplating updating pkgsrc to 1.1. So, is a user who isn't paying attention to development issues better served by 1.1, or 1.0.2? (Also, there

[Viking-devel] case-preserving filesystems

2011-05-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Checking out viking on a mac is awkward due to viking-remote and VIKING-REMOTE. Is there any reason VIKING-REMOTE can't have a different name? It doesn't seem to be referenced in any other files, and seems to be for by-hand use when not used with a packaging system that supports desktop files.

[Viking-devel] git repositories?

2011-05-02 Thread Greg Troxel
(I'm starting to pay attention to viking again after a hiatus due to Things Other than Geo needing time.) I have some saved messages about git repositories, but I'm unclear on the current practice. My local repo has the following remotes: origingit://viking.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/

[Viking-devel] gps_poll gone from gpsd

2011-03-28 Thread Greg Troxel
gps_poll has been removed from gpsd, so now viking with gpsd support won't build. Has anyone tried to convert it to gps_read? pgpnLCxkRkXOS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Mana

Re: [Viking-devel] Version numbering scheme (was Re: Request for comments - my visison of 1.2)

2011-03-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > For 1.0, I tried to import the idea of "stable" release (I then > released 1.0.1 and 1.0.2). I don't know if it was usefull or not, nor > if viking is sort of software that need such effort. The main idea was > to use even releases as stable ones and odd releases fo

Re: [Viking-devel] Reference documentation

2011-03-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Yes, it is what I tried to do. To ensure this, I put the Makefile in a subdirectory not linked by other Makefile. So, the "make" must be manually activated on this directory. sounds good But I'm not really sure abou one aspect: dependencies. Is this change brings some new dependencie

Re: [Viking-devel] pull request: Fix GPX symbol names for Garmin Oregon 450

2011-03-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Quick review of the case change: a large comment is removed, and there is no replacement comment explainining the plan in paricular, the missing new comment doesn't explain why the new way causes no regressions new procedures don't have comments explaining their purposes (even thoug

Re: [Viking-devel] Reference documentation

2011-03-10 Thread Greg Troxel
If this is for building docs about the source code, a la doxygen, then it would be nice if it's possible to easily build viking without this documentation, while simultaneously allowing those who are hacking on it to have the docs. Is that what you think you did? pgp1hQ4wS4ObE.pgp Description:

Re: [Viking-devel] Request for comment for Bing maps support

2011-03-01 Thread Greg Troxel
[top posting repaired] >> Furthermore, you can experiment easily the resulting work by using the >> following branch: >> http://repo.or.cz/w/viking/guyou.git/shortlog/refs/heads/t/map/bing-maps Lixus Zoran writes: > But How can I clone the git bing-maps branch ? > I am getting this error: > >

Re: [Viking-devel] Enable Viking Forums on SourceForge?

2011-02-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Robert Norris writes: > Is there any reason *not* to enable some forums about Viking on the > SourceForge website? The only issue is the great cultural divide between the old-school internet users who use mailinglists, and the web generation who find forums more natural. I tend to a) ignroe fo

Re: [Viking-devel] support for ~ or $HOME in map cache dir?

2011-01-05 Thread Greg Troxel
I remember we already discussed about this property in .vik file. It could be interesting to have support for ~ or $HOME. But I fear that such change will bring new issue (like previous try). I feel that we have to find an other idea. One idea I have is to move this path from .vik file

[Viking-devel] support for ~ or $HOME in map cache dir?

2011-01-01 Thread Greg Troxel
I have a gpx.viking file so I can do viking gpx.viking foo.gpx and get the map layers I want without having to configure them. This generally works well. I put /home/gdt/VIKING as the map cache directory, and this works fine on the BSD system is was written on. But on my mac, it fails beca

Re: [Viking-devel] Sharing maps configuration

2010-11-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > I suggest you to reread this page, Rob reviews the introduction of > this page. I think all is much more clear. Yes, thanks - that's very helpful. So we should probably put the example file into the distribution and have it installed in $(prefix)/share/examples/vik

Re: [Viking-devel] Sharing maps configuration

2010-11-19 Thread Greg Troxel
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/viking/index.php?title=Maps Thanks; I had never thought of adding toposm. But the Documentation link is to a null page, and I'm guessing one drops the xml in some file, but I'm not clear where. pgpIzgpBfzMGx.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 1.0 released

2010-11-19 Thread Greg Troxel
I tested 1.0 on netbsd-5 i386 and it worked fine, and I've updated pkgsrc to 1.0. pgptozFxKdWw9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3

Re: [Viking-devel] Help needed on translation management

2010-11-15 Thread Greg Troxel
I don't think there is any ethical issue. Making fixes in code/etc. that you mostly understand but don't quite, because people who really understand are too busy/not available, is a long tradition. pgpH635YYS3Ls.pgp Description: PGP signature ---

Re: [Viking-devel] Viking 0.9.96 released

2010-10-11 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > As you can see, I released 0.9.96. I hope this version is the really > last one before 1.0. I plan this release for the end of the week, if > no major bug is found. I did an update to 0.9.96 for pkgsrc, and it seems to work fine (for what I do, which is look at gpx

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] Make more portable .vik file, as don't save the map cache directory if it's the map cache default directory.

2010-10-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > IMHO, the current cache in viking serves two distinct roles: > - a cache like any web browser has (in order to keep files locally for > the session); > - a local tilecache to allow cross session caching but also *offline* reading. Agreed; these are the two standard

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] Make more portable .vik file, as don't save the map cache directory if it's the map cache default directory.

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Guilhem Bonnefille writes: > It's an interesting point of vue. Currently, the map cache is > associated to the *instance* of a map layer, not the map layer itself > (as far as i know). For example, you can embed two Mapnik layers with > different caches. > > As you spotted it, I think this is pr

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] Make more portable .vik file, as don't save the map cache directory if it's the map cache default directory.

2010-10-06 Thread Greg Troxel
how about: user preference file (NOT a .vik) sets path to cached maps each map layer just uses a standard place in the path, and there's no config allowed. pgpZByDysOHT3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Beautifu

[Viking-devel] pkgsrc updating to 0.9.95

2010-09-22 Thread Greg Troxel
0.9.95 seems to work fine on NetBSD 5 i386 (using OSM layer, gpx reading). --- Begin Message --- Module Name:pkgsrc Committed By: gdt Date: Wed Sep 22 12:43:48 UTC 2010 Modified Files: pkgsrc/geography/viking: Makefile distinfo Log Message: Update to 0.9.95. Viking 0.9

Re: [Viking-devel] Plans for 1.0

2010-09-14 Thread Greg Troxel
The release plan sounds good. I've been meaning to try out all the rnorris topic branches (and I think his plan of having a bunch of independent topic branches to be merged is exactly right) but haven't had time. But, I think it makes sense to get a 1.0 out and then get most/all of those integra

[Viking-devel] [PATCH] Fix bashisms.

2010-09-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Change shell to /bin/sh. Adapt to POSIX shell function syntax. --- test/check_degrees_conversions.sh |6 +++--- 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/test/check_degrees_conversions.sh b/test/check_degrees_conversions.sh index 1b675ef..a6a0b88 100755 --- a/test/check

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] Document VikSlippyMapSource

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Troxel
also, since osm is arguably one of the more important pseudo-TMS services: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_map_tilenames pgptwIS3OJROX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Start uncovering the many advantages of

Re: [Viking-devel] [PATCH] Document VikSlippyMapSource

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Troxel
The wikipedia reference has no useful content; I'd delete it. I think vikslippymapsource.c probably does not support arbitrary TMS (meaning parsing the metadata and coping), but instead supports the common profile of how maps are available on the web. It would be great if there is a web referenc

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