Thank you Jones,
I was actually able to wrap my brain around most of that.
I especially like the falsifiable conclusion. The sooner the better.
An afterthought: If Rossi (and probably Mills as well) don't currently
possess an accurate understanding of what's actually happening on the
atomic and
From Jed:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/17/nuclear-future-beyond-japan/
This is the first I have seen in a major U.S. mass media general newspaper.
QUOTE:
Just as Japan’s earthquake raises fears of catastrophe from a nuclear
meltdown and Mideast turmoil jeopardizes the
From Harry,
I don't wish to sound negative, but that is the Washington Times and not the
Washington Post. It is owned by reverend Sun Myung Moon who heads the
Unification Church.
Sigh... For more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Times
Excerpt: RECENT CHANGES:
In January 2008,
From Alan,
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3126617.ece
And here are 36 more questions – with Rossi's answers
Thanks, Alan,
Last QA caught my eye:
Q: Karl-Henrik Malmqvist: In the reactor there might be a flow of
electrons. Is it possible to directly take care of
From Jed:
...
Conventional nuclear power is now a great deal more vulnerable than fossil
fuels, because of the crisis in Fukushima.
It's recent industrial accidents (as coined by ACC in Profiles of
the Future) that can occasionally cause one wonder if Someone Above
might be pulling a few
From Jones:
...
9) The gain per metastable atom is at least ~100,000 times chemical but far
less than fission or fusion - and the only ash seen is in a change isotope
ratio of the tellurium (or other metastable fuel) with occasionally nuclear
transmutations due to the small proportion of
Jed sez:
...
I gather he [Icke] also believes that reptilian humanoids are secretly
in charge of humanity.
Last year on a YAHOO discussion group, DNNY, I participated in a
series if stimulating conversations with a lady who believes blue
skinned reptilian aliens, whom she calls the Syrians,
From Jed
See:
Storms, E., What is now known about cold fusion? (Addendum to Student's
Guide). 2011, LENR-CANR.org.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEwhatisnowk.pdf
This was prompted by recent progress in the field, and also, in part, by
confusion about the role of helium and the W-L
Here's a question that I hope some resident Vort experts might be able
to answer.
Assuming, in due course, that Rossi's E-Cat, or some new and improved
CF version eventually drops the price of electricity down to just
under a penny a KwH... But, then, for the sake of argument, let's
assume that
From Terry:
From bobpark.org
DALLAS: THE APS MARCH MEETING NEXT WEEK.
I'll be there to give an invited talk about what's new in Voodoo
Science, Thursday, March 24 at 8:36AM, in C1.
Anyone care to guess? Hmmm?
Goodness me! That's today. ...as we speak.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry:
Anyone care to guess? Hmmm?
Based on Park's past performance I suspect he would prefer to
scrupulously avoid discussing Rossi... unless someone in the audience
deliberately confronts him with a pointed question: Dr. Park. What is
your opinion on the recent claims made in Bologna,
A hypothetical conversation in room C1:
* * * *
AUDIENCE PARTICIPANT: Dr. Park, what are your thoughts on Rossi's
Cold Fusion device?
DR. PARK: There isn't much I can say on the subject.
AP: But... but... but why haven't you come out and exposed it for what
it is! The device is after all just
Another hypothetical conversation in room C1 (This version is probably
even less likely, but what the hey! I'm speculate'n here!)
* * * * *
AUDIENCE PARTICIPANT: Dr. Park, what are your thoughts on Rossi's
Cold Fusion device?
DR. PARK: There isn't much I can say on the subject
AP: But...
Jed sez:
...
Ah. So it is pure fantasy after all.
Guilty as charged.
Either that or your bug picked up the wrong voice.
I try to keep the voices in my head from bugging the predilections
of others. It's the polite thing to do. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
From Terry,
...
What! No CF!?!
A smart bully, if he wishes to stay in power, always makes sure he has
an escape route planned, a plan that can more-or-less be gracefully
executed if warranted.
Say what you want about Dr. Park, but I think he is definitely smart.
(IOW: I think he's hedging
From Jones:
...
The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue.
The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's
assume the worst.
Why assume the worst ??? But, yes, agreed. I think the burst of
radiation is an essential ingredient.
For instance, it could have been a
From Jed:
There was no electromagnetic pulse.
Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors.
The former detected nothing.
And what of the latter?
Unfortunately, my careless use of the term EMP was too imprecise an
interpretation. Let me rephrase my previous commentary.
Correct
From Jones:
...
Heck, Rossi might have been recruited for this ! even planned it out from
Day-one with the help of skeptics like Park Co (or more likely the
Pentagon or spooks at some 3-letter org) as a sponsor, for all we really
know. That would explain Park's unaccustomed silence. Maybe
From Jones
...
At any rate, I strongly believe that there has been an ongoing
'black' or military project since around 2000, which has been
funded under the UAV umbrella, and which could be directly
related to this.
We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen
(not deuterium) as
Jed sed:
...
... People kept underestimating him [Edison], and he kept blowing
his critics out of the water. He gave his investors nightmares
while he struggled to pull off these things.
In regards to Rossi, it is a good thing you are only playing the role
of honorable scholar and meticulous
From Alexander and Jed
I take issue with the diagnosis. One of the primary symptoms of
asberger's is an inability to relate and discuss with other people,
and he seems to have no issue doing that.
I agree. Einstein also had this ability, as I said.
Not every genius has Asperger's.
From Jed,
See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1370839/Scientists-Holy-Grail-science-mastermind-worlds-artificial-leaf.html
It's a cool idea. However, I have no idea how good it really is.
(Maybe it's not!) For example, when they say it's 10 times more
efficient than
At first glance, the engineering would probably be ambitious. However,
considering the fact that we have been accumulating lots of experience
in off-shore drilling:
*
The Marshall System claims to be the first and
only system to unlock the awesome
Jed sez:
Someone named TenOfAllTrades deleted my remarks, with a comment rv, banned
User:JedRothwell
That's probably good for me. It will prevent me from wasting any more time
posting message there.
Someone unknowingly has just paid you a very high complement. You know
better than to stick
Jones sez:
One odd design characteristic of the E-Cat is the “Riser”
– this is the vertical component giving the device the
“reclining L-shape”… What is the purpose of the Riser?
Antenna for a directed beam? … homage to Italy?
The vortician submitting the best answer … err …
From Jed:
A well-known skeptic shown up in this discussion. See:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=484427page=5
He is intellectually dishonest. He described experiment 1 as follows:
...
He also demands an independent test. That was an independent test.
Levi had no connection
Jed sez:
...
Really, there isn't much more we can ask for.
Well, I was thinking about that.
Maybe when Rossi starts marketing the E-Cat in the United States he
should trademark and then rename his energy catalyzer Mr. Fusion (I
bet Mr. Spielberg wouldn't mind sharing his trademark one bit!)
From Peter,
I have also found this, have not the slightest idea if hydrogen is present
or not. I will try to find out the documents in the original languages- I
have a long experience in collaboration with Russian and Ukrainian
inventors- YUSMAR, INTERENERGORESURS etc.
If there is hydrogen
From Jed:
...
If he can secure intellectual
property with a patent, he is worth every euro of the money Defkalion plans
to pay him. I assume the investors at Defkalion know a thing or two about
patents, and they have reason to believe he can get one.
...which brings up the question
From Harry
How can 30% of nickel in Rossi’s reactor be transmuted into copper?
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473
The Lone Proton...masked marvel.
Hi Ho! Hydrino!
(Sorry, Silver. You're still my favorite horse.)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Interesting speculation, Jones.
I never read Stolper's book. Nevertheless, I remember his scrappy
posts from the old Yahoo Hydrino group, particularly as he incessantly
went after Zimmerman.
Does Stolper's book reveal any kind of useful detail as to what kind
of additional catalysts might have
From Jones:
The mundane reason for the appearance of iron an[d] copper
is electromigration.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion to draw.
I must apologize for not being sufficiently clear as to what I was
really questioning: What is generating the massive amount of heat? I
gather the
From Stephen
...
It's more likely that Levi is in on the gag than that
transmutation from nickel to copper produced natural
isotope ratios in the ash. The former merely requires
the assumption that a few humans are acting unusually
stupid (which happens frequently). The latter requires
Stephen,
Urgent Addendum:
Just to be clear on this point, my speculation was pertaining to
whether you were now suspicious of the HEAT measurements. In truth I
must admit the fact that you seem to be questioning the isotopic
shifts, not the actual HEAT measurements. My apologies if I have
From Jones
From: Terry Blanton
If the reactor vessel is stainless steel, is the Cu migrating through
the walls of the vessel to contaminate the Ni?
That is probably net necessary. It looks to me like a copper pipe, for heat
transfer, may go into the reactor itself. Plus, if I am not
From Akira,
...
- Focardi doesn't know the exact composition of the catalyser used in the
reactor (in addition to nickel powder) or what it does exactly but he
suspects that it's a chemical compound promoting nickel's adsorption of
hydrogen in atomic form rather than molecular.
Maybe
From Akira
On 2011-04-06 18:58, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I'm quite sure Focardi told that he doesn't know the composition (nor he
wants to know - he added). By catalyzer I mean the unknown compound which
enhances the nickel-hydrogen reaction.
Really! Does he say why he doesn't
Jones sez:
...
Wow, gotta luv that the Rossi apparatus does work - apparently - but doesn't
it
just scream cheap? Off the rack at K-Mart cheap...
Heh! It will probably result in an extra month of delays over at DoE
getting their s**t in gear... particularly if they deem to look at the
Regarding Terry recent breakthrough...
OMG!
The resemblance is uncanny!
This Island Earth was a great SF flick for its time.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047577/
http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/2011/04/06/physics-engines-for-dummies/
Good primer. Reveals computer algorithms used.
Have fun messing around with interactive animated white balls!
The interactive chaotic pendulum engine near the end of the article is
my favorite. Teaches you a'lot about
From Harry:
How does it [This Island Earth] compare to Forbidden Planet?
Similar caliber. However, FP is a notch better, IMHO!
Monsters from the ID!
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Culturally speaking, Rossi's eCat (eKittin) technology reminds me of a
very popular science fiction genre known as Steam Punk. Steam Punk
has its origins that can be traced back many decades. Curiously,
within recent history, the genre has become a thriving sub-culture
within the science fiction
Looks like a super conservative xenophobic anti communist right-wing
tea party web site has taken notice of Rossi's work - briefly that is.
Scroll down to the eleventh paragraph:
http://americandaily.com/index.php/article/4861
Seems to me that if such groups are at least aware of the event, and
From Peter Gluck:
...
I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add
hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of
hydrogen- but surely there is a best practices type protocol here.
My apologies, Peter.
Let me try to clarify my previous
Jones sez:
...
In effect, he [Rossi] has trumped Mills at his own game.
Agreed, except for the caveat that if Mills' can get his CIHT process
off the ground BLP might still have a fighting chance.
It might eventually turn into a practical evaluation of determining
whether in Rossi's low-tech
Some of us may still remember that classic video add where Ella
Fitzgerald sings a hearty tune. It's a spontaneous ditty which ends
with the shattering of a crystal glass as Ella belts out a final high
note. The commercial subsequently proceeds to play back a Memorex tape
recording of Fitzgerald's
From Stephen:
...
http://www.toysteam.net/wid15final.wmv
Great stuff!
Rossi should get a 4 kW steam engine for his next demo.
Hey, if he does that, he can close the loop, and get rid of the external
power supply for the heater!
...
Oh, the irony of it all!
Granted, to prove that OU
From Mark:
Rossi: No radioactivity has been found in the residual metals, it is true,
but the day after the stop of the operation. In any case you are right, if
59-Cu is formed from 58-Ni we should have the couples of 511 keV at 180° and
we never found them, while we found keV in the range of
Robin, Harry,
Just to clarify some of my ramblings...
My use of the term alchemy was an oversimplified reference to the
desire to transmute common elements into valuable elements... i.e. the
desire to transmute lead into gold. The point I was trying to imply
is that the old-world alchemical
Horace sez:
...
As to Rossi, his quality control rested with the only person with the skills
to produce his nickel catalyst mix, an old man in his 80's working away on
an old machine. My imagination sees this happening in a poorly lit room
somewhere in a decaying rustic European building.
From Jones:
...
3) However, it is occasionally possible to shoot protons at each other with
the right speed and quark positions so that they latch on to each other -
held in place by the Strong Force.
Without one of the protons converting into a neutron? I thought that
was impossible.
Jones sez:
...
Wow - I realize that this Rossi device could be the most
important development in Energy for some extended time ...
hmmm, the Neolithic age comes to mind, according to
Randy :) ... but this may be the first time in Vortician-land
for having a play-by-play and ongoing
On a more serious note, someone who may have achieved some street
creed with Rossi might want to pop this interesting heat transfer
question to Ross at his blog. It might be interesting to see how Rossi
responds. Could be highly revealing.
Peter Gluck, comes to mind as the volunteer for his
From Jones,
From Rothwell:
I don't bet. I debate technical issues based on experimental
evidence, not crackpot theories that predict water heaters
don't work. If you will not give us a plausible reason why
this calorimetry might be wrong by a factor of 1000 then you
lose this debate.
This
From Jed:
...
... I believe the
reaction works best at around 600°C and it conks out above that.
Can someone clarify the following: What is the internal temperature
the reactor cell has to reach in order to initiate the Rossi reaction?
I thought the reaction takes over when the
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator:Rossi's_Hints
To everyone who worked on creating this Wiki Rossi Hints directory.
THANKS A BUNCH!
I would think it should be fairly easy to update it.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
From gotjosh:
Its really entertaining and all, but do you two really have to
pollute every single thread with this stuff? are you twin brothers
from a former life who just bicker constantly as a way of
showing love?
Adding to Terry's Kommentary Jones and Rothwell have been known to
spar with
Jones sez
...
...all of this nonsense is explained by Rothwell picking
out an irrelevant detail in a long thread, and ignoring
everything else - in order to cover his trail in case the
Swedish testing does conform to my prediction.
Defense Team: Your honor, I object! The prosecution is
From Jones:
...
We cannot assume honesty from a man like Rossi who
is seldom honest.
Not to mention – this demo was Rossi’s tribute event
to Focardi – maybe a kind of pre-eulogy.
Rossi had every incentive to fudge the results, to make
it look better than it was, or in case something went
From Jones:
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llcnickelseed-lenr-networksapril-20-2011
Impressive presentation! But is it built on a foundation of sand?
Boy, these guys must have a high quality PR firm, staffed with
multi-media whizzes at work 24/7… but are they trying
From Albedo:
Finally, spectral data to look at! I can show this to some of the ten-pound
heads I work with - one of whom is well-recognized in the neutron detection
field...if I can get him to take this seriously. If I could get the actual
data, I have several state of the art tools I can
The configuration might not be strange at all.
One possible explanation:
My take is that Rossi's e-kitten reactor cell might NOTbe positioned
within the center of the copper pipe. The reactor cell might
actually have been engineered in the shape of cylinder, or a ring that
fits snugly adjacent
From Jed:
You mean, the cell is a torus? With the cooling water flowing
through the middle?
Yes.
I believe that is what Ed Storms may have concluded. (I don't
speak for him.) I thought there might be a problem getting the
powder into a torus, because you can't access the bottom, but
From Jed:
You mean, the cell is a torus? With the cooling water flowing through the
middle?
The problem with that would be: Why bother putting the copper shell around
the steel cell? If it is a torus, you can dispense with the copper shell,
and put the heater directly on the outside of the
From Akira
From Steven V Johnson:
The exterior copper pipe lining/jacket which encases
the external reactor torus wall might assist in the
transfer of reactor heat to the adjacent flowing water.
If the reactor torus had been built entirely outside of
the copper tubing holding the flowing
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Cold+fusion+Burnaby+brink+clean+nuclear+energy/4660666/story.html
http://tinyurl.com/3n8c7j2
Excerpts:
When I phoned the company to request an interview, Michael Delage,
their vice-president of business development, politely declined, offering
the apologetic:
My Gmail reader didn't notice any odd visual spacing problems with
Beene's text. Nor does my MS Outlook 2007 reader.
But yes, Alan's site is a valuable contribution to the cause. Thanks, Alan!
Re gar ds
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Regarding Alan's site:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v322.php
I noticed the Printable PDF version link appears to be broken. Any
chance of fixing that?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
My own personal assessment:
CF? HF? Something else??? Who knows.
After reading the article several times I still don't know WTF they
are talking about.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Potential sign of the times?
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/04/15/home-insurance-living-grid/
In their article I think foxbusiness is completely missing the real
ramifications of what is coming down the pipeline. Nevertheless, and
IMHO, home insurance with off the grid coverage
From Ron Wormus:
...
If I read Mill's 5th force experiment correctly he is stating that
he has shown that gravitational mass inertial mass are not
equivalent which supports Brightsen.
...and there goes Einstein's Theory of Relativity - melting into a
puddle of goo. Oh, what a world!
Jones sez:
...
OTOH - we keep getting back to the problem of NRC approval,
or even UL approval. With proved particle detection and
real fusion, then we are back to being years away from
having the device approved in the USA.
Adding more to the goose chase, let us not forget the fact that
From Alan,
I'll fix it on Monday ... UNLESS, of course, there's a new report to
evaluate!
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v323.php
http://lenr.qumbu.com
Updated -- with PDF file. (why would anyone want to print out the 60+ pages
???)
Works! Thanks! Sometimes a PDF format
From Mark:
...
... and one can start by simply scanning all the
comment sections of websites where a CF story ran, and summarize
each skeptic's question or statement, and counter it with the facts. Keep
it short and sweet, with links to references... the list of Rossi's
Pretty decent article:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney
Excerpt:
In other words, when we think we're reasoning, we may instead be
rationalizing. Or to use an analogy offered by University of Virginia
psychologist Jonathan Haidt: We may think we're being
From Terry
Focardi:
The gamma rays were not there because we were able to eliminate them
by putting the lead. In the experiments we carried out with the
engineer Rossi gamma were always there, but they were so little
intense than the natural radioactivity, which with small thicknesses
of
Terry sez:
Anonymous Iraqi General: We need to make the Americans think we have
WMD so they will come over and get rid of Sodamninsane.
Heh... there might be some truth to that premise. ;-)
Actually, the most intelligent conclusion I heard about that whole
fiasco was that Saddam
Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW.
It might be wise to skip the generation of electricity in the first
wave of Rossi e-cat sales. Focus on the KISS principal. Simply focus
on the economic advantages of cheap heat! Rossi-powered 1 MW furnaces
might do very well if the goal is to show
From Robin:
(Water parks - turn them into
establishments that are open all year!), roads sidewalks,
Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known
World Nickel reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100
years *at our current rate of use*. If we start wasting
Axil,
I like your systematic break down of the process.
I sure don't know WTF is going on! ;-)
I luv a good mystery.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Correct me if I have misunderstood the most important relevant facts
being debated here, but I believe Jones is making a strong claim that
the percentages of isotopes allegedly found distributed throughout the
copper found within one of Rossi's used e-cats clearly indicates that
the Rossi-effect
From Terry:
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not?
You probably recall a test that was done on implants and some material
which fell through the roof in Ufology. That test was an isotope
ratio test. The claim
Hi Jones,
Yeah, yeah, we know what the nuclear fizicists will say on
the matter.
What do they know. ;-)
Well that's it, isn't it ... what do the experts know? Of
course, one can throw all of nuclear physics out the door,
but why?
I'm certainly not arguing that we throw present knowledge
Jones sez:
...
My working hypothesis as of May 3, is that spillover
hydrogen is formed catalytically, at a threshold temperature
and collects in Nickel nanopores, gaining thermal energy
from an unknown source at very close to the Curie point of
the nickel. It is that simple. The reaction is
Regarding the latest on-going spat between Jed Jones
...
Jed recently sed:
... I suggest you [Jones] treat this more like a scientific discussion and
less like a legal proceedings, what with the best available evidence ...
It's my understanding that Mr. Beene was at one time a lawyer.
Jed, Craig, Terry sez:
England also has a wide range of dialects for such a small geographic
area. Some areas were remarkably isolated well into the 20th century.
A book about dialects that I read years ago said that in 1943, a
linguist found an old guy in a village in southern England who
Good work-in-progress compilation Jones. Thanks for volunteering.
It's astonishing to me to see the number of different theories being
explored. Some obviously have at present garnered more respect than
others. But who really knows at present what combination of the above
(or perhaps none at all)
Alan sez:
Is it too much to ask for ONE TEST in which EVERYTHING is done correctly:
Yes,
Get over it.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Alan sez:
Is it too much to ask for ONE TEST in which EVERYTHING is done
correctly:
Yes,
snark=ON
Sorry, I thought vortex was a scientific list, not a religious one.
snark=OFF
Hi Alan,
Jed has already posted a few suggestions on the matter of getting what
you think you deserve in
From MoB:
But, did I hear David from Defkalion say it right, that they are aiming at
producing 300.000 units per year?
Oeps, that should read 300,000 (three hundred thousand)
Not by certain European standards. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
From Jones:
...
... hey ... come to think of it ... you don't think that the
deuterium tank seen at one time in Rossi's setup was indicating
that he could be harvesting the ash g ? nah...
The excuse given at the time was to quench the reaction, but
think about it, do you quench fire with
From Terry,
...
I think Rossi has one extra trick up his sleeve. I could never figure
out the electrical wiring for the heaters and why he needed the band
heater in addition to the auxiliary heater in the end pipe. It now
occurs to me that he is flowing current between these two heaters
From Terry,
Of more concern to me: Wouldn't your speculation possibly result in a
very dangerous electrical problem for any human who attempted to
handle the e-cats? I'm thinking the electrical flow would would not be
insulated. Or have I misunderstood something crucial here.
Well, did you
Makes me wunder if applying heat is really all that necessary. ...Or
perhaps raw external heat is only necessary at first, as Rossi seems
to indicate.
The speculated implication is that it's actually the amount of
electron packing going on that is a crucial element in sustaining the
reaction.
Let me add my two cents:
If Rossi's e-Cat reactor core can regularly sustain temperatures of
500c or higher, water that is in contact with the reactor core's
surface FOR LONG ENOUGH PERIODS will most certainly exceed
temperatures 100.1 C, and by quite a large margin.
However, the tick would be
From Jed:
3. Use many more toll roads, with electronic toll collection rather than
toll gates, so that traffic does not have to slow down or stop. This has
been proposed in Georgia to replace some of the High Occupancy
Vehicle (HOV) lanes.
They already have set up a lot of fast lane toll
From Joshua:
In other words, you've got nothin' but vague,
unsupported insults.
In my view, it doesn't matter if my vague unsupported insults (which I
freely admit were done at your expense) are correct or not.
You seem to believe that you have Rossi's occasionally troubling heat
measurements
From Axil:
...
Pumping the waste heat underground may be a solution, but would add
substantially to the cost of a Cat-E installation.
Speculating a bit more on this topic...
It seems to me that waste heat could eventually turn into a global
environmental problem. Assuming e-Cat technology
From Joshua:
...
Eventually, in a few years Rossi will simply fade away
like Patterson from the 90s, and the CF community will
make excuses like his stock of lucky catalyst ran out
and he found he was unable to make more, and you will
refuse to admit you were wrong.
Thank you for sharing
Jed sez:
...
...In other words, we may need a few hundred thousand reverse oil wells.
All the energy we got out of burning oil and coal we may need to put into
undoing the results and burying the fuel.
Heh!
... which x'plains how the current supply of underground fossil fuels
came into
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