[Wikitech-l] Re: Announcing: Path review board

2023-10-04 Thread bawolff
So unfortunately interest in the patch review board seems to have died off I believe when something doesn't work out, it is good to have a retrospective. With that in mind, please add thoughts about the patch review board to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_review/Patch_board#Retrospective

[Wikitech-l] Re: New developer feature: $wgUseXssLanguage / x-xss language code

2023-09-29 Thread bawolff
This is clearly yielding some interesting results. One of the patterns i've noticed is that several of the examples seem to involve mustache templates. I think there are two reasons for this: * mustache templates cannot currently be checked by phan-taint-check * Because they are a separate file,

[Wikitech-l] Re: MediaWiki Extensions and Skins Security Release Supplement (1.35.11/1.38.7/1.39.4/1.40.0)

2023-07-03 Thread bawolff
n of this issue is incorrect. It is an XSS not just a style injection. -- bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/postor

[Wikitech-l] Re: gotointerwiki-external

2023-06-01 Thread bawolff
Ensure that the iw_local field is set to 1. Otherwise the interwiki is not considered safe for automatic redirection. -- Brian On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 5:05 AM Bináris wrote: > Sorry for disturbing, but I did not find the answer in the docs. > > I installed a MW 1.39.3 with an automated tool. Th

[Wikitech-l] Re: Extension! Re: Wikimedia developer satisfaction survey 2023 🧑‍💻📊

2023-06-01 Thread bawolff
Will the results for this be posted soon? It has been more than 3 months. -- Brian On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 8:30 AM Tyler Cipriani wrote: > > *Good news—✨you've got another week!✨* > We're extending the deadline to submit your answers to this year's > Developer Satisfaction Survey *until Fri, 24

[Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

2023-04-13 Thread bawolff
Thank you for this email. I appreciate your effort to tackle difficult problems head on and in recognizing our problems are socio-technical, not just technical. This email is probably one of the most reassuring things I have read from someone in WMF management in a very long time. There were some p

[Wikitech-l] Re: FYI - WMF Product & Technology annual planning 2023/24 - snapshot of work in progress

2023-04-12 Thread bawolff
I just wanted to say, that I really appreciate that this is being drafted in the open and providing opportunities for public feedback. Thanks, Brian On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 8:46 AM Liam Wyatt wrote: > Dear all, > > Back in February, the first public steps in the WMF's Annual Planning > process

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

2023-02-27 Thread bawolff
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 4:24 AM Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 27/02/2023 à 13:05, David Gerard a écrit : > > Can I just note that however you word it, closing volunteers' good > > faith bugs because nobody is available from the organisation right now > > is an excellent way to get them never to file

[Wikitech-l] Re: maybe somebody can just review and approve this commit of script conversion?

2022-10-24 Thread bawolff
, but if you want to have the code merged into mediawiki and deployed to wikipedia, you're going to have to put aside your feelings, or be content with it staying as an unmerged patchset forever. -- bawolff On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:03 PM dinar qurbanov wrote: > hello > > can somebody hel

[Wikitech-l] Re: Request Timeout

2022-09-07 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:17 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:54 AM, Martin Domdey wrote: > >  > Hi, > > it looks like there is nobody who can work on a bug or production error > like this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316858 > > I don't think, that this is a production er

[Wikitech-l] Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-10 Thread bawolff
Honestly, I find the "not in the annual plan" thing more damning than the actual issue at hand. The core competency of WMF is supposed to be keeping the site running. WMF does a lot of things, some of them very useful, others less so, but at its core its mission is to keep the site going. Everythi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] The Second round of voting for mediawiki logo just started!

2020-10-08 Thread bawolff
nd that is ok. Cheers, Brian On Thursday, October 8, 2020, Amir Sarabadani wrote: > (Sorry for late response, this email fell into cracks of my messy inbox) > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 1:53 PM bawolff wrote: > >> TBH, I was under the impression that the second round was goin

Re: [Wikitech-l] The Second round of voting for mediawiki logo just started!

2020-09-28 Thread bawolff
TBH, I was under the impression that the second round was going to be narrowing down to top contenders (maybe the 3 or so top designs), not choosing the top contender (I guess that's my fault though, it wasn't stated anywhere that that was going to be the case or anything). It was kind of hard to f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-08 Thread bawolff
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 9:44 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > Please stop calling this an “AI” system, it is not. It is statistical > learning. > > So in other words, it is an AI system? AI is just a colloquial synonym for statistical learning at this point. -- Brian _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

2020-08-05 Thread bawolff
That's a tough question, and I'm not sure what the answer is. There is a little bit of precedent with https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?oldid=2533048&title=Extension:AntiBot When evaluating harm, I guess one of the questions is how does your approach compare in effectiveness to other publicly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fixing rule via PHPCBF

2020-03-01 Thread bawolff
In theory, you can use the --sniffs option to specify specific sniffs. See phpcbf --help -- Brian On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 7:29 AM Zoran Dori wrote: > Hello, > is possible to fix specific rule via phpcbf? > > Best regards, > > Zoran Dori > volunteer, Wikimedia Serbia > s: zoranzoki21.github.io e

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki API pageview issue

2020-02-24 Thread bawolff
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:27 AM MusikAnimal wrote: > Unfortunately there's no proper log of redirect changes (I recently filed < > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240065> for this). There are change > tags > that identify redirect changes > -- "mw-new

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki API pageview issue

2020-02-23 Thread bawolff
formatversion=2 On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 4:28 AM bawolff wrote: > Hi, > > When I tested the api it seemed to work with redirects (e.g. > https://mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=pageviews&titles=MediaWiki%7CMain_Page&pvipmetric=pageviews&pvipdays

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki API pageview issue

2020-02-23 Thread bawolff
Hi, When I tested the api it seemed to work with redirects (e.g. https://mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=pageviews&titles=MediaWiki%7CMain_Page&pvipmetric=pageviews&pvipdays=60&pvipcontinue= Where Main_Page redirects to the page MediaWiki ) > Then we attempted to use the red

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help Further develop for Spell4Wiki App

2020-02-23 Thread bawolff
If you get an invalid CSRF error, its generally best to just get a new token and try again. > 2. Once successfully uploaded audio not reflected to UN-Audio words API < https://ta.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&list=categorymembers&utf8=1&cmtitle=%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0

Re: [Wikitech-l] A monthly purge

2020-02-20 Thread bawolff
Accidentally replied directly instead of to list like i meant to On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:15 AM bawolff wrote: > Some back of the napkin math > > If it takes 0.5 seconds to parse a page on average, it would take 289 days > to refresh all the pages on wikipedia (Assuming we aren

Re: [Wikitech-l] A monthly purge

2020-02-19 Thread bawolff
Pretty sure the answer is no (Although i don't know for a fact). However, parser cache only lasts for 30 days. So pages will get parsed at least once every 30 days (if viewed). However that's separate from links update (aka categories, linter, etc). I suspect that doing a linksupdate of every art

Re: [Wikitech-l] Test Install of MediaWIki for Experimentation

2019-11-21 Thread bawolff
There is also https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page & https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page test.wikipedia.org is closer to the main site (running basically the version of MW used on wikipedia, and all the user accounts are integrated), and should not be used for

Re: [Wikitech-l] The difference between fileexists-no-change and backend-fail-alreadyexists for action=upload

2019-11-18 Thread bawolff
ostly speculation as I'm not super familiar with the FileBackend code. -- bawolff On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 6:51 AM Chen Xinyan wrote: > Hi there, > > Hope I've found the correct list for asking this question. > > I was setting up a CI test case for my MediaWiki Client Li

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia production excellence (September 2019)

2019-10-24 Thread bawolff
> There were five recorded incidents last month, equal to the median for this and last year. – Explore this data at https://codepen.io/Krinkle/full/wbYMZK Can't help but feel something is missing here, around the 7th... -- Brian On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:32 PM Krinkle wrote: > 📘 Read on Phabr

Re: [Wikitech-l] URL parameter fetching (mediawiki)

2019-10-01 Thread bawolff
MediaWiki coding conventions is to use the WebRequest object. In the context of a SpecialPage subclass, you would probably do $this->getRequest()->getVal( 'reason' ); [Note: This combines both POST and GET values] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/classWebRequest.html#a3ee

Re: [Wikitech-l] Patchsets by new Gerrit contributors waiting for code review and/or merge

2019-09-10 Thread bawolff
Just FYI, both page forms and Cargo are maintained by Yaron. -- Brian On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 3:20 AM Andre Klapper wrote: > CR0: Please review and provide guidance if you are familiar with the > code, and decide (CR±1 or CR±2): > > * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/Carg

Re: [Wikitech-l] For title normalization, what characters are converted to uppercase ?

2019-08-05 Thread bawolff
Apparently that will change in php7.3, which we will move to eventually but probably not anytime soon: https://3v4l.org/W7TiC -- bawolff On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:32 PM Nicolas Vervelle wrote: > Last question (I believe) : > I've implemented something similar as Php72ToUpper in WPC

Re: [Wikitech-l] For title normalization, what characters are converted to uppercase ?

2019-08-03 Thread bawolff
MediaWiki uses php's mb_strtoupper. I believe this will use normal unicode uppercase algorithm. However this can vary depending on version of unicode. We are currently in the process of switching to php7, but for the moment we are still using HHVM's uppercasing code. There's a list of differences

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer account creation

2019-04-23 Thread bawolff
Hi, I was going to register an account for you, but it looks like there's already a Luca Mauri registered in gerrit (from Jan 13, 2019 [1]). In any case, if all else fails, you can upload a patch via https://tools.wmflabs.org/gerrit-patch-uploader/ . Its also possible to add a patch as an attach

Re: [Wikitech-l] resource loader; 1.32 alpha; 1.32 stable breaking change loading scripts in widgets

2019-04-04 Thread bawolff
I don't know if its best practise to do this, but core seems to do: (window.RLQ=window.RLQ||[]).push(function () { mw.loader.using('ext.myextension').then(function(){ console.log('library loaded');}); }); You probably don't have many other options if you are using the Widgets extension. -- B

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread bawolff
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:49 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > > > The devs is not the primary user group, and they never will be. An > editor is a primary user, and (s)he has no idea where the letters > travels or how they are stored. A reader is a primary user, and > likewise (s)he has no idea how t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-19 Thread bawolff
On Monday, March 18, 2019, John Erling Blad wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:52 PM bawolff wrote: > > > > First of all, I want to say that I wholeheartedly agree with everything > tgr > > wrote. > > > > Regarding Pine's question on technical debt. &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-18 Thread bawolff
First of all, I want to say that I wholeheartedly agree with everything tgr wrote. Regarding Pine's question on technical debt. Technical debt is basically a fancy way of saying something is "icky". It is an inherently subjective notion, and at least for me, how important technical debt is depend

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread bawolff
Regarding: >My proposal is to begin the discussion here: how can we better relay issues >that are more important to communities than new features? How can we have a >"community whishlist for bugs"? Well fundamentally it starts with making a list. This is basically a lobbying discussion right. Peo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community-Engineering gaps as defined in configuration

2019-03-09 Thread bawolff
In regards to wgUseRCPatrol - I suspect (but don't know) that originally that was disabled on enwiki as a performance thing. If it was a performance concern, that's probably irrelevant at this point. I generally agree that its good to try an unify config complexity where it makes sense. But I don'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-08 Thread bawolff
"tracked" does not mean someone is planning to work on it. This could be for a lot of reasons, maybe the bug is unclear, maybe its not obvious what a good way to fix is, maybe nobody cares (This sounds harsh, but the simple truth is, different things have different people caring about them, and som

Re: [Wikitech-l] Read access to patrolled flag in wikimedia API

2019-03-05 Thread bawolff
Are you sure that patrol status is shown as colour coding on history pages? I'm pretty sure its not. If you mean kind of the dim yellow colour (like in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Adult_Swim&action=history for the moment, but that will likely change soo

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-13 Thread bawolff
than designed by community consensus. I may be wrong about this, but > in my search of historical records I have not found evidence to the > contrary. I think that redesigning the process would be worth considering, > and I hope that a redesign would help to account for the types of need

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-11 Thread bawolff
to focus on? > > Or is just a matter of "Yes, wishlist, but more of it"? > > - Jonathan > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:34 AM bawolff wrote: > >> Sure its certainly a front we can do better on. >> >> I don't think Kasada is a product that's appro

Re: [Wikitech-l] A potential new way to deal with spambots

2019-02-11 Thread bawolff
Sure its certainly a front we can do better on. I don't think Kasada is a product that's appropriate at this time. Ignoring the ideological aspect of it being non-free software, there's a lot of easy things we could and should try first. However, I'd caution against viewing this as purely a techn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Query

2019-01-23 Thread bawolff
Its totally fine for the accounts to be different. (As long as you aren't intentionally using multiple accounts to confuse people, of course) At worse, it might be a tad confusing, but that's totally ok. Putting a note on your user page listing all your accounts is a good idea to prevent confusion

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Gerrit now automatically adds reviewers

2019-01-18 Thread bawolff
Umm, No. -- Bawolff On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:13 PM Pine W wrote: > I'm glad that this problematic change to communications was reverted. > > I would like to suggest that this is the type of change that, when being > planned, should get a design review from a third pa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Book scans from Tuebingen Digital Library to Wikimedia Commons

2018-12-03 Thread bawolff
Have you seen https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading ? I think the folks at commons are more likely to be able to give you the help you need than wikitech-l would be. -- Brian On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:22 AM Shiju Alex wrote: > > > > > Google Drive will do OCR on Malayalam, Ka

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-07 Thread bawolff
Alas, no longer valid in XML or HTML5. (Although HTML5 will still parse it as an empty comment, but with a "incorrectly-opened-comment" error. -- Brian On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 6:57 AM Chad wrote: > > Found it :) > > https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SGML/sgml-lex/sgml-lex > > Search for "empty comment

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice

2018-09-27 Thread bawolff
Updates from translatewiki will be put on pause. You can continue to update translations at translatewiki, but they won't show up on Wikimedia wikis until the current issues are sorted out. In order to avoid things getting out of sync with translatewiki, we would like to ask that you avoid transla

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread bawolff
Thank you for your detailed reply. I'm going to respond inline: On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > I write all answers in one place: > > Brian: >> So we are going to magically assume that somehow this block is going to > change mcbride's behaviour when it took a 100 message

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread bawolff
On Wednesday, August 8, 2018, Ori Livneh wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 2:48 PM bawolff wrote: >> >> MZMcbride (and any other individual contributor) is at a power >> disadvantage here relative to how the foundation is an organized >> group > > H

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: [...] > 2) the duration of block which is for one week was determined and > communicated in the email. You can check the email as it's public now. Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I see where this is public. > 3) not being able to disc

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread bawolff
If maximizing effectiveness was the only concern, we could just block all the users. -- Brian On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Are you suggesting that ArbCom does a good job of maintaining a collegial, > harassment-free environment on English Wikipedia? Just wanted to doubl

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:53 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >>I disabled the account and now I disabled it again. It's part of a CoC >>ban. We sent the user an email using the "Email to user" functionality >>from mediawiki.org the moment I enforced the ban. >> >>We rather not to disc

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 Thread bawolff
s handled this matter. > > Dan > > -- > Dan Garry > Lead Product Manager, Editing > Wikimedia Foundation I disagree strongly with this. Wikitech-l is the traditional place for all discussions about mediawiki as an open source project. -- bawolff ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deactivating hyperlink by CSS

2018-05-10 Thread bawolff
You could force the link to be behind (in a z-index sense) another transparent element. (Not really deactivated because you can still reach it via keyboard, but it would stop people clicking) -- Brian On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:15 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Hello. Is there a way to deactivate a hy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Add security researchers to CREDITS file & [[Special:Version/credits]]

2018-05-01 Thread bawolff
The reason I don't want them in the same category is, that: * I see them as a totally different type of contribution. I think a security reporter has more in common with a translator than a code contributor * The existing credits section is maintained by script based on git log. The security report

Re: [Wikitech-l] Masaryk University mirrors of Wikipedia XML dumps

2018-03-13 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:25 AM, defanor wrote: > Hello, > > currently lists Masaryk > University mirrors, which are inactive (mirroring there was > intentionally stopped several years ago, it's not a temporary issue). It > would be nice to update the lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recursive Common Table expressions @ Wikimedia [was Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 February 2018)]

2018-02-28 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) > wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Jaime Crespo >> wrote: >> >> > Very recently I have been experimenting with recursive Common Table >> > Expressions [2], which are or will be

Re: [Wikitech-l] FLIF for Wikimedia

2017-12-11 Thread bawolff
To be clear, there are generally no objections to "1) accept FLIF (and possibly serve PNG thumbs for browsers without js" other than convince commons it would be a good idea to accept the format. All the controversial bit is converting files to FLIF. Accepting FLIF files for upload is non-controver

Re: [Wikitech-l] AdvancedSearch beta feature now on Mediawiki

2017-11-21 Thread bawolff
Just for reference, you can upload files to phab from mobile by going to http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/file/upload (Yeah, its the most hidden thing ever) -- bawolff On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:47 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Hello, Birgit. Unfortunately, I can't open a phab ticket, becaus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security release: 1.29.2 / 1.28.3 / 1.27.4

2017-11-15 Thread bawolff
Hi, just a quick update - The tags are now in git. You can now download from git using the 1.29.2, 1.28.3 or 1.27.4 tags Alternatively you can use the REL1_29, REL1_28 or REL1_27 branches if you like. The difference between the branch and the tag, is the tag contains exactly what was released in

Re: [Wikitech-l] need a URL encoding expert

2017-10-20 Thread bawolff
HTML4 reccomended people use ; instead of & to separate url parameters, to avoid conflicts with entity references. However, afaik most web servers don't support this (I think its mostly some java things that do). See https://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/appendix/notes.html#h-B.2.2 Modern

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: New newsletter: Tech Showcase

2017-10-13 Thread bawolff
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Jérémie Roquet wrote: > Dear Quim, > > 2017-10-13 12:40 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil : >> TLDR: Please give this a try, subscribe, and forward the link to other >> mailing lists or projects: https://www.mediawiki.org/ >> wiki/Newsletter:Tech_Showcase. >> >> The simplest and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Passing to {{ping}} a list of user stored in a template on Meta

2017-09-24 Thread bawolff
Why not just make a template containing {{ping|first user|second user|third user|...}} Your issue is almost certainly that the pipes aren't being tokenized as argument separators when they come from a transcluded template. (Its the same reason that {{!}} works in tables, except in reverse). Alter

Re: [Wikitech-l] HHVM vs. Zend divergence

2017-09-19 Thread bawolff
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:21 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Chad wrote: > >> I see zero reason for us to go through all the formalities, unless we want >> to really. I have yet to see anyone (on list, or on IRC anywhere at all >> today) where anyone suggested (2) w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread bawolff
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hello, > > This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania, when > Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative Commons) and > Mark Surman (ED of Mozilla Foundation). One of the themes mentioned was > that our projec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Timeless skin now available on mw.org

2017-08-12 Thread bawolff
x27;t update the local one or something. need to look into that further. Maybe you got logged out and then central auth globally logged back in. I don't know, kind of grasping here, but definitely is a MW issue not a Timeless issue. -- bawolff On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:38 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrot

Re: [Wikitech-l] Historical use of latin1 fields in MySQL

2017-05-02 Thread bawolff
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> . >> > >> > On the latest discussions, there are proposals to increase the minimum >> > mediawiki requirements to MySQL/MariaDB 5.5 and allow binary or utf8mb4 >> > (not utf8, 3 byte utf8

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia P2P

2017-03-27 Thread bawolff
ren't worth it (I haven't looked at yours specifically so this might not apply to you) because: * Most users expect very quick cache invalidation times (e.g. on the order of seconds) * Uncached views are generally cheap (From the server perspective), so the benefits aren't that much. --

Re: [Wikitech-l] AMD petition

2017-03-13 Thread bawolff
With all due respect, and as much as I support things like this, this is offtopic for wikitech-l. -- Brian On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:03 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Please join me in asking AMD to open-source the PSP (backdoor) in > their chips -- a chance to regain secure x86 hardware. > > https

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-12 Thread bawolff
isn't an option > to participate when I'm in a crowded library/classroom. > > -- Legoktm > +1 to this being inconvenient. I don't always attend arch com meetings, but usually do if I happen to be online during the time. If its a hangout, it is extremely unlikely I would at

Re: [Wikitech-l] please critique my grant application

2017-03-12 Thread bawolff
A short clear self-contained abstract at the top of the grant request would be a good start. -- Bawolff On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:54 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Please critique and endorse my grant application, especially after Doc > James replaces his name as the applicant so I can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki core has reached to its 400th contributor

2017-02-07 Thread bawolff
Actually, that's probably double counting svn contributors, since svn contributors are in the git history under a different email then they currently used (If they are still around). Nonetheless, that's a nice milestone. -- Brian On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Hey, > To

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to clear backlinks cache?

2017-01-24 Thread bawolff
This probably indicates that the links aren't being appropriately added via $parserOutput->addLink(). Check that Special:Whatlinkshere for the red links is correct. -- Brian On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Victor Porton wrote: > The red/blue status of links with "arrows" produced by my > Names

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help me to fix a bug in my extension

2017-01-06 Thread bawolff
array(0) { > } > 2017-01-06 17:43:00 victor.local my_wiki: array(0) { > } > 2017-01-06 17:43:01 victor.local my_wiki: array(0) { > } > 2017-01-06 17:43:01 victor.local my_wiki: array(0) { > } > > I need the list of existing links to amend it. How? > > On Fri, 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help me to fix a bug in my extension

2017-01-05 Thread bawolff
Hi, You shouldn't modify the contents of the ParserOutput object from any OutputPage related hook, as MediaWiki's cache system won't take the new version into account correctly. Instead you should use a hook called from the parser. For your use case I would suggest the ParserAfterParse. So try ch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discussion Platform

2016-12-10 Thread bawolff
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:44 AM, MAYANK JINDAL wrote: > Hi, > The problem is in IRC that it doesn't allow to see previous messages. > I mean it only shows messages as long as you are logged in. > This isn't really a new problem. Some people use bouncers [1] to solve this. Other people just don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction for Gsoc 2017

2016-12-10 Thread bawolff
>> > > In regards to 3: >> 3. What are the other things that happen apart from GSoC(In case if I wish >> to contribute even after Gsoc. How is the culture of this >> community? > > You are welcome to contribute at any time. You do not need to be part > of a program to do so. The other maj

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction for Gsoc 2017

2016-12-10 Thread bawolff
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:50 AM, MAYANK JINDAL wrote: > Hi , > Hope you are doing well. > I want to discuss my preparation for Gsoc-2017 in Wikimedia. I am very new > to this organization and I am facing a lot of difficulties in getting > Wikimedia workflow. > 1. I have done open source contributi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bash API edit code examples needed, please

2016-11-21 Thread bawolff
ash for updating an onwiki template for what articles are trending currently on enwikinews. Code is absolutely horrible and not something you should follow, but I suppose it is an example. There's source code at https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Bawolff_bot (API might have changed slightly since

Re: [Wikitech-l] Call graph creator applied to MediaWiki and extensions

2016-11-11 Thread bawolff
= YES (and maybe CALLER_GRAPH = YES) in maintinance/Doxyfile and running make doc in maintenance (provided you had doxygen and graph viz installed). -- Bawolff On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Seb35 wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to share a recent work I’ve done to better visualise the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Engaging student devs with another outreach event like GSoC, GCI

2016-11-07 Thread bawolff
starving to death" to "Here's a little money and a job so you can put something cool on your resume". If students are being attracted to the program principally to have something on their resume or for the money (To be clear, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that), its not surprising that they leave afterwards when the money goes away. If we want to attract people in the long term, we should probably come up with a better carrot. -- bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] What happened to RobLa?

2016-11-03 Thread bawolff
Robla obviously deserves his privacy if he wants that. However I think its rather natural for people to wonder "What happened" when an employee who is as much in the public spotlight as robla is, suddenly and unexpectedly leaves. Obviously just because it is "natural" doesn't mean we deserve answe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct

2016-09-29 Thread bawolff
news notifications), for example :-) > Or using limited CN banners (similar to the community survey banners). > Honestly, hasn't it been enough already with the code of conduct. The number of announcements related to it has been staggering. -- bawolff __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

2016-09-01 Thread bawolff
> > * In a big session on services-oriented architectures, a lot of time was > spent theorizing about what small wikis who do their hosting on > shared-hosting services do, and whether various solutions we were proposing > would make it easier or harder for these non-WMF users of mediawiki. *But >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

2016-09-01 Thread bawolff
> > Yes, I think we *should* provide a focus for the event, and that the focus > should be on users, use cases, and what we as developers need to do to > achieve those things. > > In my opinion we haven't had a strong focus to the event in the past, and > it's limited what we accomplish there to la

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ConfirmEdit][ReCaptcha] Call-to-Action: ReCaptcha module will be removed in the near future

2016-08-04 Thread bawolff
> > Because this is a huge problem for existing third-party wikis (and because > we don't have any usage statistics), I'm not sure, which plan we should > choose. That's why I sent this e-mail out, to get (hopefully) some responses > and opinions. > > We do have stats. There are 308 people using R

Re: [Wikitech-l] RESTBase JSONP output

2016-08-02 Thread bawolff
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to include some output from > https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/?doc into a Wikipedia > (xy.wikipedia.org) via a Javascript AJAX call. > > Is it possible to have a JSONP output? I have not found any > documentation

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reload SQLight from MYSQL dump?

2016-08-02 Thread bawolff
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Jefsey wrote: > At 02:44 02/08/2016, John wrote: >> >> For mass imports, use importDump.php - see >> <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps> >> for details. > > > Dear John, > > Thank you f

Re: [Wikitech-l] wgDBServer ipv6

2016-07-10 Thread bawolff
erver you're using instead of its IP address (Or if it doesn't have one, create an entry in /etc/hosts for it). Failing that, try switching php to use the mysqli driver if you're using the mysql driver. -- bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing li

Re: [Wikitech-l] git.wikimedia.org (Gitblit) going away on June 29th, redirected to Phabricator

2016-06-29 Thread bawolff
icator site search is pretty useless all and all. 75% of the time I can't even find the bugs I'm looking for, and its more effective to go the the project's workboard and hit ctrl+F in my browser. As for git, I almost never want to actually look at it online. But when I do, I&#x

Re: [Wikitech-l] Logging client JS exceptions to the server

2016-06-27 Thread bawolff
rposes and log to EventLogging or somewhere else ( > https://docs.getsentry.com/hosted/clients/javascript/). > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] CII best practices (for security etc.)

2016-06-11 Thread bawolff
iki.org/wiki/Core_Infrastructure_Initiative_Best_Practices_badge to document items on their list we currently don't do. -- bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security patch

2016-04-26 Thread bawolff
I've filed T133735 as a bug to formalize procedures for security releases of non-mediawiki bundled wmf-maintained extensions. On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:17 PM, bawolff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Alex Monk wrot

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security patch

2016-04-26 Thread bawolff
ree with doing that procedure, I just think its unfair to call that the normal procedure, where I don't think that procedure has ever been used for extensions. Regardless of what procedures are decided as good practice for extensions, formalizing the procedures security releases of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security patch

2016-04-26 Thread bawolff
le might think its a general mediawiki security issue. Thanks, -- -bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Best practices for read/write vs read-only requests, and our multi-DC future

2016-04-21 Thread bawolff
triggers the job, and it will only stop triggering inserting the job after the job has been executed, this might cause a large number of useless jobs to be en-queued until one of them is finally executed. -- -bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unique Devices data available on API

2016-04-19 Thread bawolff
tatement to say that it does not involve a cookie in which your browser history can be tracked. The date you've visited previously sounds like a part of your browser history to me. To be clear, this is not meant to be a criticism. I think the approach that is being taken is really gre

Re: [Wikitech-l] Kunal (User:Legoktm) moving to Parsing Team

2016-04-08 Thread bawolff
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > I wish there were a Legoktm Team within the Legoktm Department Hopefully come may 11, we will have a strong voice on the board to help push forward the Legoktm team within the Legoktm department of the Legoktm foundation :D -- -bawo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of GeoGebra MediaWiki Extension

2016-03-02 Thread bawolff
ot; or "Wikimedia Labs", to play around and replace some >static geometric drawings by dynamic GeoGebra drawings? Wikimedia labs is basically a hosting environment for things related to Wikimedia. Wikipedia is really big, so you can't really setup a full clone there (Or at lea

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of GeoGebra MediaWiki Extension

2016-02-27 Thread bawolff
gt;> of them? Or do you mean have it be included in the default mediawiki >> tarball release? >> >> Thanks, >> Bawolff > > Hi, > > The GeoGebra team and I would be glad to be able to enhance Wikipedia by > GeoGebra drawings. (I avoid the word "applet",

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mass migration to new syntax - PRO or CON?

2016-02-12 Thread bawolff
> Last thoughts on the thread, I got bigger fish to fry than array syntax > sugar :D > > -Chad +1 to that. -- bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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