Re: [RDD] Play a live stream with Rivendell?
Thanks. I think I'll just stick with the plug in a laptop option this time. Verstuurd Van: Nicholas Young Verzonden: maandag 4 mei 2015 02:01 Aan: Peter van Embden CC: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System I asked about this a while back. The answer I received was no. I haven't tried it, so I don't know if it will work. The advice I received was to use an external media player and route the audio as needed. Then, use Rivendell's trigger to update the Icecast metadata, should you need to do so. --- Nicholas Young Founder / Original Machine LLC Executive Producer / The Machine Broadcasting Network Creator / Mixdown http://OriginalMachine.com / http://Machine.FM / http://Mixdown.co (312) 685-2109 (Direct) Schedule an interview with me: http://calendly.com/machinefm Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl wrote: Hello, I was wondering: is it possible to set up a cart which can play a stream? For example: I know there's a stream at stream.radio.com:9000 (or something like that), and I want to play that stream on my station. Can Rivendell handle this in some kind of way? The Operations Guide doesn't say anything about this, but I kinda need to know this. If it's not possible, I'll have to instruct someone to connect a laptop to the line-in of the mixer. The reason (for if you're wondering): the major will be speaching somewhere and we'll be broadcasting that live. The location has a live-stream which we can pick up. If I can create a cart that will play this stream, things will be much easier. In the future we will have to do similar things more often. In the past, before we started using Rivendell, we also had a way to do this. Sincerely Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Play a live stream with Rivendell?
Hello, I was wondering: is it possible to set up a cart which can play a stream? For example: I know there's a stream at stream.radio.com:9000 (or something like that), and I want to play that stream on my station. Can Rivendell handle this in some kind of way? The Operations Guide doesn't say anything about this, but I kinda need to know this. If it's not possible, I'll have to instruct someone to connect a laptop to the line-in of the mixer. The reason (for if you're wondering): the major will be speaching somewhere and we'll be broadcasting that live. The location has a live-stream which we can pick up. If I can create a cart that will play this stream, things will be much easier. In the future we will have to do similar things more often. In the past, before we started using Rivendell, we also had a way to do this. Sincerely Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Running in a virtualised environment
Hi all, Here at Radio Capelle we're running in a virtualises environment since we started using Rivendell (early 2014). If you like, I can pass this thread on to our IT-manager (who got it all figured out). Cheers, Peter Verstuurd Van: Lee Baker Verzonden: maandag 27 april 2015 13:08 Aan: Lorne Tyndale CC: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hi Lorne, Glad you mentioned that, I had a secondary system which mirrored the main system so in the event of a failure I was able to bring everything back online quite quickly. The other great thing of running in a virtual environment, you can have your ³golden image² ready to go in the event something screws up with the RD system. The amount of times I¹d make a change to and broke the system and have to rebuild it was rather frustrating and time consuming. By virtualising I not only reduced an entire rack of servers in to one server and a backup server thus also reducing environment costs such as power consumption I reduced down time and maintenance. My other requirement was to have the backup service off site in the event of internet dropouts or power outages, in the previous setup of multiple physical servers it was just too complicated. This was being used for internet based radio stations delivered to paying customers in a retail environment. That is basically what put me on the path to testing running a physical studio off a virtual system. Of course redundancy is the key, being able to quickly migrate the main service over to your backup service with very little down time. I had the virtual server running non stop for 6 months without issue, only reason I had to reboot was because of a power outage that lasted longer than the UPS could hold the system up for. Cheers, Lee On 27/04/2015 2:18 pm, Lorne Tyndale ltynd...@tyndaleweb.com wrote: Hi, That does sound like an interesting way to make things work in a virtualized environment. But one item jumped out at me: For a while now I have been running RD in a Vmware environment successfully running up to 10 stations on one system. I have to admit I'd be hesitant to put 10 stations running on a single machine regardless of how stable that machine is. All it would take is a significant hardware failure and you'd have 10 stations off the air, and that's not really the type of phone call I'd want to have waking me up at 3 am. Just something to think about. Lorne Tyndale ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Scheduler Rules Min.(imum) of Min.(utes)?
Thanks! A buddy of mine kind of figured out it had to be this. And yes, the Operations Guide misses this, so I first got mistaken. I just changed my scheduler rules and rebuild the playlist. Now the station starts to sound more like I want it to sound! Thanks! Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Keywan Tonekaboni Verzonden: zondag 19 april 2015 21:19 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hi Peter, Am Samstag, den 18.04.2015, 06:36 + schrieb Peter van Embden: But now I'm wondering: what does Min. wait stand for? Is that Minimum number of carts to wait to schedule again or Minutes to wait to schedule again? Your first guess is correct: Minimum number of carts. And is Max 1, Min 0 the right way to say don't bother about this code? 1 - 0 schedule as much as you like 0 - * schedule never (min wait is ignored) Check the wiki: http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Managing_Scheduler_Rules Actually the Rivendell Operations Guide is totally missing this. Best Keywan -- Keywan Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Wait up to... doesn't skip items
It would be nice to mention: use RDCatch to hard load next days playlist at the moment you usually use the Play Next (make next) cart. I have a clock without the Play Next (make next) cart scheduled for 23-00 and a clock with the Play Next (make next) cart at 00.00 for 00-01. Therefore, if you hard load next days playlist with RDCatch, the Play Next command gets on top of the list again. The 00-01 clock has, of course, the Play Next (make next) cart also scheduled at the end of the clock (in my case XX:58:30). Cheers, Peter. Verstuurd Van: Keywan Tonekaboni Verzonden: zondag 19 april 2015 21:32 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hi, unfortunately Wait up means it waits exactly the time and then start the event. I always combine wait up with a make next, like Peter suggest. E.g.: 00:59:45 make next (empty macro, cleans up the log at this time) 01:00:00 wait up to 3 minutes (cart with time announcement) If the song ends between 00:59:45 and 1:03:00, then the announcement will be broadcast after that song. A song will only be interrupted, when its longer then 3:15 (assuming it is starting at 00:59:44.9). In our case just in a few cases the songs are interrupted. (this is the night schedule) For news we use the same approach, but with 1min wait-up-to time. Still, I think a real wait up to would be nice. Can anybody tell me, for what this delayed hard time (which sounds for me as a more accurate label for this feature) is useful? Best Keywan Am Sonntag, den 19.04.2015, 20:49 +0200 schrieb Morten Krarup Nielsen: Thank you. That solved my problem (although it would be logic that wait up to skipped items, and I really think I had it working this way on Friday.. Strange...) 2015-04-19 9:49 GMT+02:00 Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl: Hi Morten, I tackled this problem with this solution: Place a macro-cart with play next command at XX:59:48 and set it to make next. Then make the NEWS cart a hard start at XX:00:55 (like you already have). This way the news will always start at XX:00:55, but will start earlier if item reaches the end (because play next overrules hard start). Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Morten Krarup Nielsen Verzonden: zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:30 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hi. Just suddenly, the wait up to timer doesn't skip items. (I swear it worked yesterday) I have a wait up to timer at XX:59:48 that waits for one minute. But items isn't skipped, and often a new song starts at XX:59:55 for instance. It then plays until XX:00:55 where the news breaker then starts. If I change the timer to Make next it works like a charm. But if Eagles - Hotel California starts right before the news breaker, then we have to wait 7 minutes for the news, so I need the wait up to I'm running 2.10.3 Any suggestions? Kind regards, Morten ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Keywan Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Wait up to... doesn't skip items
Hi Morten, I tackled this problem with this solution: Place a macro-cart with play next command at XX:59:48 and set it to make next. Then make the NEWS cart a hard start at XX:00:55 (like you already have). This way the news will always start at XX:00:55, but will start earlier if item reaches the end (because play next overrules hard start). Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Morten Krarup Nielsen Verzonden: zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:30 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hi. Just suddenly, the wait up to timer doesn't skip items. (I swear it worked yesterday) I have a wait up to timer at XX:59:48 that waits for one minute. But items isn't skipped, and often a new song starts at XX:59:55 for instance. It then plays until XX:00:55 where the news breaker then starts. If I change the timer to Make next it works like a charm. But if Eagles - Hotel California starts right before the news breaker, then we have to wait 7 minutes for the news, so I need the wait up to I'm running 2.10.3 Any suggestions? Kind regards, Morten___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Scheduler Rules Min.(imum) of Min.(utes)?
Hello, I'm figuring out why my scheduler doesn't seem to do what I want him to do. I've got quite some scheduler codes (about 100), but some of them should be ignored sometimes (I mean, the songs have to be available for scheduling, but the Scheduler shouldn't be bothered at some of the codes). For example: I've got the codes 1950s, 1960s and 1970s; but all songs with one of those codes also have the code 1900s. Scheduler codes are now set to: 1900s - Max. in a row 1 - Min. wait 15 - dnsa 1980s - or after 1990s 1950s - Max. in a row 1 - Min. wait 0 1960s - Max. in a row 1 - Min. wait 0 1970s - Max. in a row 1 - Min. wait 0 But now I'm wondering: what does Min. wait stand for? Is that Minimum number of carts to wait to schedule again or Minutes to wait to schedule again? And is Max 1, Min 0 the right way to say don't bother about this code? Hope you guys can help me out! I'm really looking forward to get Rivendell to schedule music the way I've got it in my head. Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Updating Rivendell - what could we expect?
In the end it took us 2 songs from Spotify (actually 3 songs, because we forgot to re-route the audio) to upgrade. Now up and running again. No problems with macro's. I did figure out that rebuilding the playlist a few minutes before the news was not a good idea. Tackled that problem manually by unloading the running playlist and adding the neccesary carts by hand. Rescheduling the playlist took actually more time than updating Rivendell itself. Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Jim Stewart Verzonden: vrijdag 17 april 2015 17:38 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System I personally have problems with macros every time I upgrade. Certain steps in macros get skipped over unless I put sleep statements in certain places. The problem is that which steps get skipped over and where (and the length of) the sleep statements change with each version. Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 07:17:35 + From: Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl To: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: [RDD] Updating Rivendell - what could we expect? Message-ID: mailman.143.1429270844.1663.rivendell-...@lists.rivendellaudio.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello! Tomorrow we're planning to update from version 2.6.0 to version 2.10.3. Are there any major issues we could expect? We've already compiled 2.10.3, so basically it should be a one hour job. Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Updating Rivendell - what could we expect?
Hello! Tomorrow we're planning to update from version 2.6.0 to version 2.10.3. Are there any major issues we could expect? We've already compiled 2.10.3, so basically it should be a one hour job. Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Scheduler rules not followed
But if I'm right, it's not possible to _change_ the scheduler codes, is it? So this might mean I have to recode my complete database? Anyway, if it solves the problem, it's worth the work! It's actually rather fast: create the new scheduler code newCode, go to rdlibrary, select all carts having oldCode, click edit and assign them the new code. I tried this after your tip, but for some reason it doesn't seem to work. ☹ Could this have something to do with the = used in the initial tags? Or is there a certain order to do this in? Verstuurd Van: erm...@studioplume.com Verzonden: woensdag 10 december 2014 12:00 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System Hello, But if I'm right, it's not possible to _change_ the scheduler codes, is it? So this might mean I have to recode my complete database? Anyway, if it solves the problem, it's worth the work! It's actually rather fast: create the new scheduler code newCode, go to rdlibrary, select all carts having oldCode, click edit and assign them the new code. About dayparting: the only use i have of dayparting _cuts_ is for specific IDs and for short daily and weekly shows that are either imported manually well in advance or imported unattendedly by a bot. To daypart certain _carts_ without having them scheduled, my solution is to use (yet another) scheduler code; for example not_before22h: then in the scheduler rules of all clocks where you dont want those carts scheduled, set max in a row 0. About the scheduler breaking rules: (the exact way the scheduler works is still a bit obscure to me, so all this might be wild guesses) it seems to me that your min. wait values are too high. I remember reading 'somewhere' that the artist separation and min wait rules are the first to be broken in case the scheduler has a shortage of tracks. Hope it helps. . e Thanks for your reply, I'll let you know if it has helped. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl [1] Verstuurd VAN: Robert Jeffares VERZONDEN: dinsdag 9 december 2014 20:11 AAN: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System On 10/12/14 01:55, Peter van Embden wrote: For example: due to the Dutch festive of Sinterklaas (today, december 5), Christmas (M=KERST) songs should not be played me thinks Black Peter is having a say in this...!!! I have a strong memory that using = in the scheduler code may cause problems in mysql. I avoid all punctuation and symbols like @ % ? () in anything that runs in mysql because they tend to get interpreted as something else. I like the energy level idea. I have a tempo scheduler code which works but the energy level adds a fine tuning I have been looking for. Changing the scheduler code from E=1 to E1 may produce a change. You can create a new scheduler code without the '=' and globally change all songs with E=1 to E1 in RDLIBRARY so not too big a pain to test the theory. regards Robert Jeffares Big Valley Radio Thames New Zealand ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev Links: -- [1] http://www.radiocapelle.nl ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Scheduler rules not followed
Hello! We're filling our database more and more and with that I found it was time to change the rules. But Rivendell doesn't quite listen to those rules I set. My set of rules is in this picture: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/35l6mfs/8. All clocks of the day have these rules. I actually only have 3 clocks for the day: one for 00.00-01.00, one for 01.00-23.00 and one for 23.00-00.00. This way we don't have any hiccups around midnight and still have the news floating (but that's another story, if you're interested, I'll make a seperate thread for that). The music is selected from 2 events: the first song of the hour must have code E=4 (I like to schedule music according to their energy level), the rest of the hour songs are selected from all music, which should be done according to attached set of rules. Which it doesn't! Every two songs a jingle or ident is played, which have some codes too. For example: due to the Dutch festive of Sinterklaas (today, december 5), Christmas (M=KERST) songs should not be played. The rule is now set to 0 1. That rule will be changed next sunday to 1 25, so from monday on Christmas songs may be scheduled with approx 2 per hour. But it's playing Christmas songs already. For some reason, if you take a look at the rules, Rivendell manages to play 4 2010s in a row. This is not supposed to happen. And I tried to create a 20 years apart rule, so music should vary between 1970s to 2010s. Also the rule for current hits (R=CUR) is broken a lot! Now set to 1 50, this morning 4 current hits were played in one hour. A typical song has 11 codes, defining the era (songs from the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s also have the code 1900s, which is leading as you can see), level of overall enery (E=1-5), level of intro energy (I=1-5), level of outtro enery (O=1-5), language (where everything that's NOT English also has the code L=ANDERS, so I could set a rule to pick a non-English song every two other songs, but still vary in what language that can be), source (M=..., so it's easy to track where the music is from in order to be able to replace less quality with better quality if possible), and so on, you can see it in the attachment. Did I do anything wrong? Did I miss something? Doesn't our version of Rivendell support this many codes (we're running 2.6.0 for about a year now)? Help me please! In my head these are a quite perfect set of rules! And with a database of 700 songs and growing, you'd say there's plenty of room for variation. Oh, and there's another tiny issue: some songs are only available 00.00-06.00, due to explicit content (i.e. Cee Lo Green - Fuck You), but are scheduled during the day, which then leaves a gap in the schedule. Doesn't the scheduler reckon with that? And if so: why not? Thanks for reading, I hope you can help me with finding a solution for this. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Scheduler rules not followed
Nice pun on Black Pete, haha! I'll give it a try though. But if I'm right, it's not possible to change the scheduler codes, is it? So this might mean I have to recode my complete database? Anyway, if it solves the problem, it's worth the work! Thanks for your reply, I'll let you know if it has helped. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd Van: Robert Jeffares Verzonden: dinsdag 9 december 2014 20:11 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System On 10/12/14 01:55, Peter van Embden wrote: For example: due to the Dutch festive of Sinterklaas (today, december 5), Christmas (M=KERST) songs should not be played me thinks Black Peter is having a say in this...!!! I have a strong memory that using = in the scheduler code may cause problems in mysql. I avoid all punctuation and symbols like @ % ? () in anything that runs in mysql because they tend to get interpreted as something else. I like the energy level idea. I have a tempo scheduler code which works but the energy level adds a fine tuning I have been looking for. Changing the scheduler code from E=1 to E1 may produce a change. You can create a new scheduler code without the '=' and globally change all songs with E=1 to E1 in RDLIBRARY so not too big a pain to test the theory. regards Robert Jeffares Big Valley Radio Thames New Zealand ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Scheduler rules not followed
That's the whole point: audio is not available, because I dayparted it with RDLibrary, but outside those hours the song still gets scheduled, which sometimes causes a music shortage. Sincerely, Peter van Embden. Verstuurd Van: Robert Jeffares Verzonden: dinsdag 9 december 2014 19:58 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System On 10/12/14 01:55, Peter van Embden wrote: some songs are only available 00.00-06.00, due to explicit content The day parts get set in rdlibrary in the cut itself [double click cart;double click the cut;tweak] regards Robert ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Midnight transition...
I don't know if this helps you, but I let RDCatch load next days playlist at 58.30. The first event in my playlist is a play next macro (PN 1!), which is set to SEGUE, Timed (make next) at 00.00. The next event (the news) is set to hard start at 01.30, but will obviously also be started whenever the last playing song is finished. I don't use the chain to option. Hope this helps you! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd Van: John Boles Verzonden: vrijdag 5 december 2014 14:01 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Why not have a cart with a 4 or 5 second segue before your chain to. John On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 21:17 +, Pedro Picoto wrote: Is there a way to ask (macro) RD to: - At 23.50 load the next day log on the aux log 1 and play from it after midnight? To mitigate the usual 1 second dead-air at midnight when using hard-starts... Loading the next day log on aux.log 1 and then edit it checking the start Date Enable to the next day makes the RDairplay crash, at least to me. Independent question from above: when an aux log is loaded and starts playing HOW do I see it on the playout carts like the main one? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Time of cart is incorrect
Hi, We use a dropbox folder for every user to upload their music to. There's a script running which imports all new files, sets the name of the dir as artist (so people can find their own tracks) and the original filename as title. This works pretty good, because this way our dj's can use Rivendell without screwing up the non-stop database. However, not every song imported is displayed correctly. I usually find a way to work around it, but that doesn't always work as good. For example: I uploaded a song of 3:17, but Rivendell says it's 6:29. When I play a song like that, the green clock sometimes displays the remaining period correct, but sometimes also gets this wrong. But! When set to automatic, it kind of goes pretty well. Is there a way to solve this? We use version 2.6.0. Thanks! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rdairplay jumps backwards...
I fought with this back in the days to get the news floating, so here's what I did: I created 2 special clocks: one for 23.00-00.00 and one for 00.00-01.00. At 23.58.30 RDCatch runs a macro which loads the next days playlist (which is generated at 23.30, also with a macro runned with RDCatch). The 23.00 clock has a timed event at the beginning of the hour and nothing in the rear (sort of an open ending) and the 00.00 clock starts with a timed make next event. This way the two days flow seamless. Hope this helps you! This does mean you have to create 3 clocks for your 4 hour show, but they're quite equal to eachother, so just make a copy and then adjust it. Sincerely Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd Van: Ruediger Verzonden: zondag 23 november 2014 21:56 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org On 23.11.2014 18:02, Wayne Merricks wrote: Thats why I don't have any hard timed events at the start of a log until 00:30. By making sure your log make's next at 23:59:55 ish at best you'll only have a song or advert/stinger left to play so worst case scenario for a 15 minute song you'll be hitting the start of your new day log at 00:15 ish. I need on every top of the hour the switch to the line in for the news via FM receiver. And at 5 minutes past full the fade/switch of of the news. Followed by the Showopener. I thought you didn't want to cut the song, seems I misunderstood, in that case you're doing exactly what I'm doing. Only on saturday party evening i don't want to cut the songs, because there a no news until 2 a clock in the night. So i have in the saturday log at 00:00 and 00:05 HST events. In your main log put an event just before the log chain and stick it with a hard start make next at 23:59:50 with a play transition. This way you know you'll have your final song playing and then this event followed by the log chain after 23:59:50. Load up your aux log with a very simple set: 23:59:55 A macro that fades down over 5 seconds (be sure to include a sleep 5 line too) and then does a play next on the main log). Then have the aux log chain back to itself so it reloads (or else it will only work once as the event has already played). What actually happens is this: 23:59:50 Main log, shunts all except for currently playing, final event and log chain 23:59:55 Aux Log, fades and then plays next on main log 00:00:00 Main Log hits the play next event (via aux) which chains to the next day. 00:00:01 ish Main log starts playing your news etc for the new day, ready for the 00:05 show opener. It sounds complicated. Maybe you have some screenshots.? ;) I don't think you'd need a timed event for 00:05 I assume your news is a set length and if it isn't, wouldn't that sound weird if the news started saying, breaking news nuclear missiles incoming to America if you live in snip at 00:05 Welcome to WMRB Radio, bringing you the hits every day Hahahaha. Thats what exactly happens every hour. But mostly at the end of the weather. The news from FM are never exact 5 min. long... BTW. Why you use the AUX log.? On the hours with news a have a cart with 4 second silence and a very long fade time in rdairplay for that machine. If you do a hard start fade macro on the main log, the song stops and the macro fades down a whole lot of silence (unless that was changed in a recent version but we're using 2.5 so its not that old). I don't use a fade macro. I play the 3-4 second silence cart. RDairplay fades itself to silence. This is just the way we do it at our station, there is probably lots of ways to work around the problem but this has served us well for over 2 years now. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Segue on active channel while in automatic mode
Hi Fred, This is what the IT-guy replied (in italic Dutch, I will translate in bold) Kanalen laten starten/stoppen door Rivendell zou mooi zijn, maar ik heb geen idee hoe ik dat voor elkaar zou moeten krijgen met de AXUM. Kan ongetwijfeld, maar vergt wel een interface met de mixer die dat ondersteund. De knopstart zoals we hem nu gebruiken kan dat niet, dan zouden we een echte GPIO kaart moeten hebben, of MambaNet moeten gebruiken en ik heb geen idee hoe dat werkt. Rivendell ondersteund geen MambaNet in ieder geval. It would be nice if Rivendell can start/stop a channel, but I have no idea how to accomplish that with our AXUM-mixer. Should be possible, but you have to have an interface with the mixer, which does not support that. The buttonstart we us now cannot do it, then we should use a real GPIO-card, or use MambaNet, but I have no idea how that works. Rivendell doesn't support MambaNet anyway. Concreet is de vraag: kan Rivendell zo ingesteld worden dat hij in automatic mode of niet reageert op knopstart of dat hij in automatic mode maar op 1 schuif blijft? Voor zover ik kan zien aan de reacties, lijkt het antwoord nee... ? Want dat is nog steeds de makkelijkste oplossing. The question still remains: can Rivendell be configured to either ignore the button start or just play in one channel when in automatic mode. As far as I can see in the reactions, the answer seems no... ? Because that's still the most easy solution. I've worked with several different radio-automation software packages and I know, for instance, that most of them keep the audio on the active channel when automatic mode is activated. For example Dalet, GML and PC Radio, the most common used software packages in Dutch radio. Those, by the way, also have a mix editor, but I tend to set the seguepoints so good, that for most DJ's that will not be necessary. I still have to say: I love working with Rivendell! Maintaining is very easy and the software is very stable! Verstuurd Van: Frederick Gleason Verzonden: dinsdag 28 oktober 2014 12:21 Aan: User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System On Oct 28, 2014, at 07:03 48, Wayne Merricks waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com wrote: It would be nice to have some sort of rdadmin option for channel switching in auto but alas my QT/C skills are atrocious so I couldn't figure out how best to do that. This feature originally appeared in v2.5.0, with some tweaks to improve reliability and consistency in v2.5.5 and v2.6.1. It is known to work well with LiveWire [Axia] and vGuest [Logitek] mixing desks. I’d be curious to hear about experiences with other platforms! Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | | -- Cicero| |--| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Segue on active channel while in automatic mode
Hello all, We recently added the option to button start from the mixer, but now the following challenge appears: while making live radio, the DJ's often uses manual, but sometimes want to play songs with a jingle in between in automatic. But, if the channel is not started, no sound will be heard. And if you start the channel, the next in line just starts playing. Yes, there are ways to hack this, for example by playing a short file with the fader down and leave it started, but most of our elderly DJ's are not fast enough to find something like that, they just play the playlist they're presented. And yes, by paying close attention to not just stop your channel this is also possible, but that's not the question. I figured out to ask for two possibilities: Is it possible to let all audio stick to the active channel when switched to automatic? Or, Is it possible to bypass the button-start command when switched to automatic? FYI: we use several virtual machines for Rivendell. There's RDNONSTOP, which does non-stop playout and decides at what times the mixer in studio 1 is allowed on-air (we're working on studio 2) and the non-stop stops playing. There are only 4 people allowed to acces RDNONSTOP. Then there's RDSTUDIO1, which is used for playout on the studio 1 mixer at any time (I use it to record my show during non-stop hours). Every user is allowed to acces RDSTUDIO1, because we managed to make it quite idiot-proof. RDSTUDIO1 is connected to the mixer and has button start. This is the machine that has to get modified for the challenge we ran into. Thanks for thinking with me! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Bug or operator error? Skipped events, no LOG chain. Silence monitor?
Ran into this problem a few months ago as well: if there's a song playing at midnight and you have an event to set itself to NEXT at 00.00 or somewhere there, it will do that, because no date is specified. We solved this by creating a macro-cart with commandline RN /home/rd/loadlog-nextday! and let RDCatch run this cart every day at 23.58:30. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Bernardo J Mora Verzonden: zondag 8 juni 2014 15:27 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Just happened upon (a) possible bug(s) this morning while monitoring my test stream live... For whatever reason, in the 5AM hour this morning, the main log (rdreportLOG) played just three elements: a 1/2 hour program that started early; a 2m feature (scheduled at 5:28); and a 4m feature (scheduled at 5:44 which I interrupted). I stopped RDairplay at 5:40 so you could see what was going to happen (screenshot/snapshot below). It then was going to skip the entire 6AM hour and begin at 7AM. Upon further investigation, I discovered that today's log did NOT load, and RD was playing yesterday's log... though it appears it went silent for about 15 minutes this morning (see PLAYOUT reports). (By the way, is there a silence monitor built in to RDAirplay? I noticed just now it automatically started up my Aux Log at 5:54 this morning which I loaded after discovering the above error...) in His service, BJ Mora KGCE-LP/Modesto, CA under construction https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10223784/rdreportLOG06072014.txt https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10223784/snapshot6.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10223784/140607_PLAYOUT.txt https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10223784/140608_PLAYOUT.txt___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Hicups in playout
Hello, We've been using Rivendell for non-stop playout since january and recently started to use it for live-assist as well. Few things are to be found out or configured (like button-start and voicetracking) but now we are facing a hicup-problem. We've got 3 hosts: rdserver, rdnonstop and rdstudio1. No need to explain what each one does, right? We've given each presenter a personal dropbox to upload their music to, which Rivendell then imports to a cartrange named DROPBOX (I think I set it to 500.000 - 800.000, so there's plenty of room). Now when I'm recording a show (realtime) or hosting one live, there's a hicup every now and then, sometimes about 1 second. And with now and then I mean every one or two minutes. Do you have any thoughts of this? How this can happen and, more important, how to solve it? I would really appreciate your input. We're still building on Rivendell and our presenters like to work with it. Thanks! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Hicups_in_playout
Hi Lorne, Thanks for the quick reply! I'll put the questions through to the system manager, he knows all about the hardware. I know we're running virtual machines on a server. Your assumptions are not totally correct: RDServer does indeed hold al the music and mysql database RDNonstop is for non-stop playout and regulates whether there should be non-stop music, there's a recorded show or ON AIR studio 1 is set to LIVE. Normal users do not have permission to acces RDNonstop. RDStudio1 is for live-assist during shows (either live or recorded). And to let presenters prepare their show. Their music is imported into RDLibrary with the dropbox. There are few people able to control RDServer and RDNonstop, while all our presenters have acces to RDStudio1 (and yes, there will be an RDStudio2 too). I usually use the RDNonstop machine to import new music, tag it and put in the right group (imported music is imported to UNTAGGED and then manually set to MUSIC if the tagging is done). I'll come back with answers to your questions later. The system manager is currently in the house, but a little busy. Thanks! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Lorne Tyndale Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2014 18:16 Aan: Peter_van_Embden; User_discussion_about_the_Rivendell_Radio_Automation_System A few questions about your setup, and I'll make a few assumptions (correct me if I am incorrect) RDServer - holds all the music and mysql database RDNonstop is in your on-air studio, used mainly for playout RDStudio1 - is in a production studio, used to edit stuff, logs, put new audio on the system, etc (everything but on-air playout) Is that a fairly correct guess of your setup? Assuming it is, then the questions that come to mind: -What hardware specs / level computer / how much memory / what build of Linux are you using (and is this the broadcast appliance or something else) on the computer showing the issue? -What are the hardware specs on RDServer? -Has the host name lookup stuff in MySQL been turned off, and the system to do all its MySQL stuff directly via the IP address of the MySQL server? -What speed of network are you running (10 / 100 / Gigabit)? Have you checked for network latency? -On the computer that is showing this issue, what sound card(s) are you using? -Are you using Jack, ALSA, or is this an ASI card with the ASI drivers? -Are the drop box folders on RDServer with the dropbox process running on the server, or are they on rdnonstop / rdstudio1 and then the dropbox / import process running locally and transferring the audio data across the network? If the folder itself is on rdnonstop (assuming that's the one which is showing the issue), then there could be some additional network traffic / cpu usage incurred when the system is importing something via those drop boxes -If all your audio is sitting on rdserver, it could be a network issue. Have you checked for network latency issues? -Are there any other processes running on the computer showing the issue that might be eating up either CPU cycles or network bandwidth? (surfing facebook / watching youtube cat videos / etc)? -Assuming this setup is using NFS between the systems for the sharing of /var/snd, have you tried tweaking the settings of NFS (check the list archives - this discussion came up not long ago on this list if I recall correctly). If you're using something else for the networking of /var/snd (Samba for instance), then give NFS a try instead. Anyways, just some stuff to check. Hello, We've been using Rivendell for non-stop playout since january and recently started to use it for live-assist as well. Few things are to be found out or configured (like button-start and voicetracking) but now we are facing a hicup-problem. We've got 3 hosts: rdserver, rdnonstop and rdstudio1. No need to explain what each one does, right? We've given each presenter a personal dropbox to upload their music to, which Rivendell then imports to a cartrange named DROPBOX (I think I set it to 500.000 - 800.000, so there's plenty of room). Now when I'm recording a show (realtime) or hosting one live, there's a hicup every now and then, sometimes about 1 second. And with now and then I mean every one or two minutes. Do you have any thoughts of this? How this can happen and, more important, how to solve it? I would really appreciate your input. We're still building on Rivendell and our presenters like to work with it. Thanks! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurdhr___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing
Re: [RDD] Hicups_in_playout
Hi Lorne, Here's answers to the questions according to our system manager RDServer - holds all the music and mysql database -- CORRECT RDNonstop is in your on-air studio, used mainly for playout -- PARTLY CORRECT, as I wrote in the previous answer RDStudio1 - is in a production studio, used to edit stuff, logs, put new audio on the system, etc (everything but on-air playout) -- NOPE, as I stated in the previous answer. Is that a fairly correct guess of your setup? He says: state that everything is running on one server, virtualized. Assuming it is, then the questions that come to mind: -What hardware specs / level computer / how much memory / what build of Linux are you using (and is this the broadcast appliance or something else) on the computer showing the issue? - We're running everything on a Quad core 3.2ghz server. Core's are AMD Phenom II X4 995 Processor -What are the hardware specs on RDServer? - Same as above -Has the host name lookup stuff in MySQL been turned off, and the system to do all its MySQL stuff directly via the IP address of the MySQL server? - No. -What speed of network are you running (10 / 100 / Gigabit)? Have you checked for network latency? - Gigabit, network latency shouldn't be an issue, because is virtual. -On the computer that is showing this issue, what sound card(s) are you using? - We've got 2 audio-servers in the rack, one with a digital firewire soundcard (for rdstudio1), one analog M-Audio Delta 10/10 (for rdnonstop). The audiocards are seperated from the Rivendell software. The audio-servers are also in use by other applications. -Are you using Jack, ALSA, or is this an ASI card with the ASI drivers? - Jack with net driver. -Are the drop box folders on RDServer with the dropbox process running on the server, or are they on rdnonstop / rdstudio1 and then the dropbox / import process running locally and transferring the audio data across the network? If the folder itself is on rdnonstop (assuming that's the one which is showing the issue), then there could be some additional network traffic / cpu usage incurred when the system is importing something via those drop boxes - Dropbox folders are on RDServer. The audio-files are on RDServer, RDImport is also running on RDServer and is called via Crontab. We're using a Crontab script because we run some checks on the audio files before they're imported. Since everything is running on the same virtual host, I do think RDImport might be disrupting the other virtual machines that are doing the playout. -If all your audio is sitting on rdserver, it could be a network issue. Have you checked for network latency issues? - As stated above: latency shouldn't be an issue, because all is virtual. -Are there any other processes running on the computer showing the issue that might be eating up either CPU cycles or network bandwidth? (surfing facebook / watching youtube cat videos / etc)? - None of that, just Rivendell. All of it. -Assuming this setup is using NFS between the systems for the sharing of /var/snd, have you tried tweaking the settings of NFS (check the list archives - this discussion came up not long ago on this list if I recall correctly). If you're using something else for the networking of /var/snd (Samba for instance), then give NFS a try instead. - We're using NFS. I'll see if I can find it in the archives. But if you know what discussion it was, feel free to send the link. Anyways, just some stuff to check. - Thanks! We're checking and I really hope for some good advice. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands www.radiocapelle.nl Hello, We've been using Rivendell for non-stop playout since january and recently started to use it for live-assist as well. Few things are to be found out or configured (like button-start and voicetracking) but now we are facing a hicup-problem. We've got 3 hosts: rdserver, rdnonstop and rdstudio1. No need to explain what each one does, right? We've given each presenter a personal dropbox to upload their music to, which Rivendell then imports to a cartrange named DROPBOX (I think I set it to 500.000 - 800.000, so there's plenty of room). Now when I'm recording a show (realtime) or hosting one live, there's a hicup every now and then, sometimes about 1 second. And with now and then I mean every one or two minutes. Do you have any thoughts of this? How this can happen and, more important, how to solve it? I would really appreciate your input. We're still building on Rivendell and our presenters like to work with it. Thanks! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurdhr___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell
[RDD] Traffic question
Hi! Just some things I'm wondering about but cannot find the answer: I've made an event to play commercials (in Rivendell they're called traffic, right?), but we don't always have commercials to play. The event has a pre-import leader and a post-import closer jingle and imports from traffic. If we put traffic carts into the system, it should start working. Commercials will be given dayparting-rules. But: if there are no traffic carts available, I don't want the event to play. Is that possible? Or is that standard? That the whole event will be skipped when traffic is not available? Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Hicups_in_playout
Hi Fred! Thanks for the reply. We are using KVM, but we don't run more guest instances than there are CPU cores available (they're telling me). And we do seem to have a priority inversion, we're gonna work on that. In the meantime: is there a way to tell RDImport to just slow down while importing, so it doesn't use all the bandwith? And the system manager wonders why RDImport needs a 3 GB file to import a 650 MB file. I'll keep you updated! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Fred Gleason Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2014 23:13 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org On 6/2/14, 13:19 42, Peter van Embden wrote: *He says: state that everything is running on one server, virtualized.* I think you've just fingered the root underlying issue. Virtualization adds an entire additional layer of complexity. Rivendell is an inherently real-time application, whereas most hypervisors are optimized for non-real-time workloads. I strongly suspect that you have some sort of priority inversion going on between the server and guest instances. What kind of hypervisor are you using, and how do you have it tuned? KVM in particular can become quite flaky if you ask it to run more guest instances than there are CPU cores available to service them. Cheers! |--| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. |Chief Developer | | |Paravel Systems | |--| | A room without books is like a body without a soul.| | -- Cicero | |--| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell Voicetrack Project
Wow, this sounds like a neat solution. I'm curious about the way it sounds. Is there an aircheck available somewhere so I can listen? I'm really curious about the quality of the sound. Thanks! Verstuurd Van: Administration Verzonden: zondag 11 mei 2014 21:09 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Hello All, We have been testing a way to give rivendell some new life in one area it is seriously lacking in, remote voicetracking. Below are results from some initial tests, we wanted to share them with the community, we will update this as further testing becomes successful PROJECT OUTLINE (prereq) 1. Ability for DJ to voicetrack with limited user knowledge 2. Ability for DJ to voicetrack without having to have a complicated multiple database setup) 3. Ability to avoid having to have duplicate copies of rivendell and its entire library on multiple linux workstations in multiple locations 4. Ability to allow DJS to voicetrack into rivendell from any device (tablet, smartphone, computer running any operating system) 5. Ability for DJ to record voicetrack shifts while having minimal contact with rivendell system 6. Ability to allow DJS to hear backsell and upcoming audio without complicated server and streaming configuration 7. Ability to avoid any files having to be uploaded from DJ device to rivendell 8. Ability to allow DJ a way to interface additional audio into voicetracks (IE: weather beds or sound effects) this audio can be on rivendell system, but in the voicetrack file a copy of this audio will exist, the copy being purged once voicetrack has been aired from the prereq above a test session was performed, follows is the results of that test! TEST DATE: May 7th 2014 LOCATIONS: Maine, Bermuda TOTAL DJS: 2 TOTAL ON AIR SHIFTS: 7 TEST RESULTS (90% Complete) SCENARIO 1 dj is a teen in MAINE and all she has is iphone she uses teamviewer to login to the vt box on her phone she uses a app that allows her mic to sound like stereo quality she calls and answers the VT (SIP CLIENT TESTING) on her phone, she pulls the log up in rdlogedit (we leave that open on the vt machine along with rdcatch 24/7, they cant X out of it she finds her log with the VT markers in it she calls the rdpanel we have setup for vt in she goes to the voicetracker, finds her first vt memo line she cuts 4 hours of vts, including weather breaks, contest calls, and various music beds when she is on a song break she saves the log the log gets ready for air TOTAL TIME SPENT: 35 minutes for a 4 hour shift Scenario 2 Disc Jockey in bermuda connects from a windows 7 box using teamviewer he calls and answers (SIP CLIENT TESTING)from his box once connected he looks through the log (he has multiple shifts) he goes through each log (our djs have four talk stops an hour while on VT, so a total of 4 vts per hour) he tracks and and saves 6 logs (one weeks worth of vt shifts at 4 hours each) he does not DO weather, we use rdcatch to carry an audio weather update from an external source to a cart, we then put a pre cart with the weather opener bed in it, then we use a post cut for the weather closer when he is done he closes out of the vt and leaves rdlogedit TOTAL TIME SPENT: 1 hour 10 minutes for 6 4-hour shifts on air More Coming Soon! ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Timed events...
Ah, yes, both are hard start at our station too. Should've pointed that out. Should work! Kind Regards Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Ruediger Verzonden: zaterdag 3 mei 2014 13:41 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org That won't work. First it looks good, it jumps to the make next macro and waits. But @ s45 it skips the following backtimer and starts the news from line in direct.;) Now i'm testing it with two backtimer. One @ make next :00. The second @ 45 hard start. :) On 03.05.2014 10:46, Ruediger wrote: OK, i'll give it a try. But thats look's like a workaround.;) Thus, the function Max wait makes no difference in the Event the normal Hard start @: xx59: 45 .. This has already worked. It would be better if it would now fixed, I think. ;) On 02.05.2014 07:57, Peter van Embden wrote: Hello Ruediger, I ran into the same problem, but fixed it like this: I made a macro cart with the Play Next command (PN 1!), set it to MAKE NEXT at xx.59.00 and put it right before the NEWS event. Which I then set to HARD START at xx.59.45. If a song is finished between xx.59.00 and xx.59.45, the Play Next command will overrule the HARD START event, if a song isn't finished by the time of xx.59.45, the HARD START will overrule the Play Next command. Kind Regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd *Van:* Ruediger *Verzonden:* donderdag 1 mei 2014 21:20 *Aan:* rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Hi Have another problem with a timed event. I have a backtimer to the news, that start is set to xx:59:00 with a wait time of 45 seconds. That should prevent a song for playing out for only 10 seconds. Now i have seen, that a new song began to play at xx:59:30.! After 15 seconds the backtimer began to play. As i understand that function, it should skip the next song and play the backtimer at xx:59:30 after waiting these 30 seconds, (max 45 sec.) -- Ruediger ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Timed events...
Hello Ruediger, I ran into the same problem, but fixed it like this: I made a macro cart with the Play Next command (PN 1!), set it to MAKE NEXT at xx.59.00 and put it right before the NEWS event. Which I then set to HARD START at xx.59.45. If a song is finished between xx.59.00 and xx.59.45, the Play Next command will overrule the HARD START event, if a song isn't finished by the time of xx.59.45, the HARD START will overrule the Play Next command. Kind Regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Ruediger Verzonden: donderdag 1 mei 2014 21:20 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Hi Have another problem with a timed event. I have a backtimer to the news, that start is set to xx:59:00 with a wait time of 45 seconds. That should prevent a song for playing out for only 10 seconds. Now i have seen, that a new song began to play at xx:59:30.! After 15 seconds the backtimer began to play. As i understand that function, it should skip the next song and play the backtimer at xx:59:30 after waiting these 30 seconds, (max 45 sec.) -- Ruediger ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Timed events...
Hi, At that point, the news just starts. At our station the news is floating, i.e. the news wil start between xx.58.30 and xx.01.30, but never before xx.58.30. Usually a song then has the time to finish and segue into the bottom of the hour. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Morten Krarup Nielsen Verzonden: vrijdag 2 mei 2014 08:35 Aan: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Hi. I'm just curious. What do you play before the news, if the song isn't cut and there's 40 seconds left before the news? 2014-05-02 7:57 GMT+02:00 Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl: Hello Ruediger, I ran into the same problem, but fixed it like this: I made a macro cart with the Play Next command (PN 1!), set it to MAKE NEXT at xx.59.00 and put it right before the NEWS event. Which I then set to HARD START at xx.59.45. If a song is finished between xx.59.00 and xx.59.45, the Play Next command will overrule the HARD START event, if a song isn't finished by the time of xx.59.45, the HARD START will overrule the Play Next command. Kind Regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Ruediger Verzonden: donderdag 1 mei 2014 21:20 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Hi Have another problem with a timed event. I have a backtimer to the news, that start is set to xx:59:00 with a wait time of 45 seconds. That should prevent a song for playing out for only 10 seconds. Now i have seen, that a new song began to play at xx:59:30.! After 15 seconds the backtimer began to play. As i understand that function, it should skip the next song and play the backtimer at xx:59:30 after waiting these 30 seconds, (max 45 sec.) -- Ruediger ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] trying to find info on rivendell
Just use reply to all, the Rivendell Users Group is Always in cc. Verstuurd Van: Gavin Stephens Verzonden: zaterdag 26 april 2014 07:39 Aan: Rual Thompson CC: Rivendell Users Group Since the list changed something a year or two back now when you do a reply, it replies to the sender not the list. Well it does in my case. I have to retype the to address to the lists. But I think in your case, as you use Gmail, Gmail automatically strips out any email sent from you from coming back in. I remember it doing that before I got annoyed and setup my own domain and email account. Cheers, Gavin. - Original Message - From: Rual Thompson myspectacularjour...@gmail.com To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [RDD] trying to find info on rivendell please forgive me im not sure how this list works, we keep writing replys to the emails but they dont show up anywhere so maybe no one is reading this lol ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Force CHAIN TO at fixed time
Going to give this a try!
You have to know, that at most days there's live shows untill midnight. The
system manager has built a web-interface for the DJ's where they can manually
start the news (between xx.58.30 and xx.01.30). If they don't, the news will
start at xx.01.30 anyway. And therefor it should be quite handy if next days
log is loaded at 23.58.30.
Verstuurd
Van: Rick
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 april 2014 16:12
Aan: Peter van Embden; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
by Gerrit Hanenberg: (!) he sent this to me and uses it
We solved this by calling this bash script at midnight
#!/bin/bash
DATE=`date +%m%d`
rmlsend LL 1 Production-${DATE}\!
rmlsend PL 1 0\!
It will finish the song that is playing, so the list has some time to load
Peter van Embden schreef op 12-4-2014 15:46:
I'm actually thinking about getting rid of the segue to next log, if there is
a way to load next days log manually of with RDCatch. Now to find out if
there is such an option ...
Sincerely,
Peter van Embden
Radio Capelle
The Netherlands
Verstuurd
Van: Rick
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 april 2014 00:59
Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
I have one hardtimed event @ the last item before the log chain , this forces
the rotation to the next day with a silence of 6 seconds until we implement the
script I was sent
Peter van Embden schreef op 12-4-2014 0:15:
Hello,
Our log just started to play over at the start of the log, without chaining to
the next day. We're trying to get our NEWS floating, but with a maximum waiting
time (1.30 after the hour). Works fluently for 23 hours, except for midnight.
Now I'd like to force the loading of the next log at 23.59.30. Is that possible?
Thanks in advance,
Peter van Embden
Radio Capelle
The Netherlands
Verstuurd
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[RDD] Force CHAIN TO at fixed time
Hello, Our log just started to play over at the start of the log, without chaining to the next day. We're trying to get our NEWS floating, but with a maximum waiting time (1.30 after the hour). Works fluently for 23 hours, except for midnight. Now I'd like to force the loading of the next log at 23.59.30. Is that possible? Thanks in advance, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Unique cart title
Hello all, I'm working on the database of the station (in a few hours we will kill the virtual Windows machine running BSI Wavestation and switch entirely to Rivendell, including switches from non-stop to the different studio's), so I'm tagging the last songs songs. But some songs happen to have the same title, but different artist, i.e. It's My Life. Both Talk Talk and Dr. Alban have a song with that title, but because Dr. Alban was imported first, the cart of Talk Talk gets It's My Life [1]. Is there a way to give both carts the same title? We're running Rivendell 2.6.0, by the way. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Unique cart title
Thanks Todd, that did the trick! Also, 15 minutes ago we went LIVE with Rivendell. And it already sounds a lot better than the old system. You can listen at www.radiocapelle.nl if you like. When we started months ago, I had absolutely no knowledge about Linux and Rivendell at all and I must say: I LOVE IT!!! It has cost us a lot of time, but we learned a lot! And are still learning. And when the time is right, we will switch to our DR Axum. By that time I’ll start asking questions about faderstarts and A B channels. Cheers, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands. Verstuurd Van: Todd Baker Verzonden: donderdag 10 april 2014 13:51 Aan: Peter van Embden CC: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Dear Peter, Check whether your database setting allows for Duplicate Cart Titles. It's a System setting. Start RDAdmin - click System Settings, and see if the check box Allow Duplicate Cart Titles is Checked. If it isn't checked, then the system cannot create new carts with the same Title, so as a work around it starts adding a number to the Titles it gets that match (sounds like that's what your system is doing). If you have it checked then it should not do that but allow the same titles to exist. Be Advised, if checked it WILL NOT let there be the same Titles, so changing the setting (from ON - allow duplicates - to OFF No Duplicates allowed) can cause the naming of titles with numbers appended convention to happen). I believe the system warns you if it recognizes Titles that match when you try to turn Duplicates Allowed Off, and if I recall gives you a chance to Fix them yourself. Todd Baker Radio Free Asia, Washington D.C. - Original Message - From: Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:51:37 AM Subject: [RDD] Unique cart title Hello all, I'm working on the database of the station (in a few hours we will kill the virtual Windows machine running BSI Wavestation and switch entirely to Rivendell, including switches from non-stop to the different studio's), so I'm tagging the last songs songs. But some songs happen to have the same title, but different artist, i.e. It's My Life. Both Talk Talk and Dr. Alban have a song with that title, but because Dr. Alban was imported first, the cart of Talk Talk gets It's My Life [1]. Is there a way to give both carts the same title? We're running Rivendell 2.6.0, by the way. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Set cart NEXT *and* wait a certain time
Hello Alan, That's an interesting option, but it would screw up the philosophy behind the way I schedule songs. Every song scheduled has something to do with the song before. All songs have energy tags, so it keeps natural to listen to. For example: a low energy song will never play right after a high energy song. Therefor it's easier to kick out the extra song scheduled. I think it might be easier to let my stationmanager program the option I'm asking for into Rivendell (he's also a Linux-developer). I don't think it will happen very often that the news will run a lot over time, I just want to tackle the chance of it happening. Basically (I'm not a programmer, but this in my head) he'll need to turn an OR into an AND in the options line. I'm sure it will need some more coding. Maybe a command-line can be runned at the make next time, checking for how long the playing song will be running and trigger an action if that time exceeds 2.30 minutes. Thanks for thinking with me! I appreciate that and you're helping me in finding a solution. Which I happily share with you. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd Van: Al Peterson Verzonden: dinsdag 1 april 2014 16:59 Aan: Peter van Embden CC: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org My advice would be *not* to schedule a 4-minute song that late in the hour. Come up with a way to differentiate long songs vs. short songs in the User Defined field, and create an Event in the Clock that would schedule a short song only to begin playing close to the hour. Alan Peterson KJ4IVD CBT/CEA Production Director, Radio America Network Arlington VA USA On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Peter van Embden twit...@moqua.nl wrote: Hello, We're running Rivendell 2.6.0 and very soon we'll kick out the old automation system and switch entirely to Rivendell. During daytime, when non-stop music will be played, I'd like the news to be floating. Now I've set the news to make next at xx.59.17.9. The news is an event with 4 carts: bottom of the hour, news, traffic information, top of the hour and programmed as the last event of the clock. With STOP transition if the hour is somehow too short. I've chosen to let the news-event be runned from max seconds before the hour, so there will be new news. But, and here comes the question, if a 4 or more minute song starts at xx.59.16.x, the news will be 3,5 of more minutes late. And that's just a little too late. There's also the option to wait up to xx.xx minutes. I'd like to combine these two options. Because if set to wait up to 02.30 minutes, Rivendell won't kick out the extra songs scheduled (usually there's one or two songs too much in the hour), but just hard starts the news-event 2.30 minutes after xx.59.17.9, right in the middle (or at the start) of the extra song that should have been kicked out. For the news I'd like to have a 2.30 minutes window. For me it's okay to hard start the news when already 2.30 minutes in a song. By the way, setting the news as the final event of the clock is pretty handy. Never had a problem at midnight, for example. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Set cart NEXT *and* wait a certain time
Hello, We're running Rivendell 2.6.0 and very soon we'll kick out the old automation system and switch entirely to Rivendell. During daytime, when non-stop music will be played, I'd like the news to be floating. Now I've set the news to make next at xx.59.17.9. The news is an event with 4 carts: bottom of the hour, news, traffic information, top of the hour and programmed as the last event of the clock. With STOP transition if the hour is somehow too short. I've chosen to let the news-event be runned from max seconds before the hour, so there will be new news. But, and here comes the question, if a 4 or more minute song starts at xx.59.16.x, the news will be 3,5 of more minutes late. And that's just a little too late. There's also the option to wait up to xx.xx minutes. I'd like to combine these two options. Because if set to wait up to 02.30 minutes, Rivendell won't kick out the extra songs scheduled (usually there's one or two songs too much in the hour), but just hard starts the news-event 2.30 minutes after xx.59.17.9, right in the middle (or at the start) of the extra song that should have been kicked out. For the news I'd like to have a 2.30 minutes window. For me it's okay to hard start the news when already 2.30 minutes in a song. By the way, setting the news as the final event of the clock is pretty handy. Never had a problem at midnight, for example. Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Clear audio of cuts in cart
Hello again, As I mentioned before in another e-mail, we're getting ready to start operating our radio station with Rivendell 24/7. This means we're going to have to schedule all different kinds of shows. And here's the thing: some shows are usually live, but sometimes recorded. And some shows are usually recorded, but sometimes live. Therefor, I'd like to make a cart with several cuts, where each cut is a 57-58 minutes recorded show. Each cut will have a daypart-availability at the day and hour it should be broadcasted (for example, 21.01 - 22.01, mondays only). This way I can just make one clock for all shows, in stead of every show it's own clock. And if there's no recorded show, the next event in the clock will be to switch the mixer to live. (If there's a recorded show, the hard-timed NEWS event at the end of the hour will overrule the live command). Beside these events (scheduled at the beginning of the clock), there will also be a playlist scheduled, so that if the shit hits the fan, the silencedetector can take the mixer off-air again and start the next song. Recorded shows will be imported using an external script. Which leads to this question: is it possible to overwrite or delete the audio in a certain cut of a cart, without deleting the daypart-rules and without deleting other cuts? Looking forward to your solutions! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Clear audio of cuts in cart
Hello again, As I mentioned before in another e-mail, we're getting ready to start operating our radio station with Rivendell 24/7. This means we're going to have to schedule all different kinds of shows. And here's the thing: some shows are usually live, but sometimes recorded. And some shows are usually recorded, but sometimes live. Therefor, I'd like to make a cart with several cuts, where each cut is a 57-58 minutes recorded show. Each cut will have a daypart-availability at the day and hour it should be broadcasted (for example, 21.01 - 22.01, mondays only). This way I can just make one clock for all shows, in stead of every show it's own clock. And if there's no recorded show, the next event in the clock will be to switch the mixer to live. (If there's a recorded show, the hard-timed NEWS event at the end of the hour will overrule the live command). Beside these events (scheduled at the beginning of the clock), there will also be a playlist scheduled, so that if the shit hits the fan, the silencedetector can take the mixer off-air again and start the next song. Recorded shows will be imported using an external script. Which leads to this question: is it possible to overwrite or delete the audio in a certain cut of a cart, without deleting the daypart-rules and without deleting other cuts? Looking forward to your solutions! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Clear audio of cuts in cart
Hello again, As I mentioned before in another e-mail, we're getting ready to start operating our radio station with Rivendell 24/7. This means we're going to have to schedule all different kinds of shows. And here's the thing: some shows are usually live, but sometimes recorded. And some shows are usually recorded, but sometimes live. Therefor, I'd like to make a cart with several cuts, where each cut is a 57-58 minutes recorded show. Each cut will have a daypart-availability at the day and hour it should be broadcasted (for example, 21.01 - 22.01, mondays only). This way I can just make one clock for all shows, in stead of every show it's own clock. And if there's no recorded show, the next event in the clock will be to switch the mixer to live. (If there's a recorded show, the hard-timed NEWS event at the end of the hour will overrule the live command). Beside these events (scheduled at the beginning of the clock), there will also be a playlist scheduled, so that if the shit hits the fan, the silencedetector can take the mixer off-air again and start the next song. Recorded shows will be imported using an external script. Which leads to this question: is it possible to overwrite or delete the audio in a certain cut of a cart, without deleting the daypart-rules and without deleting other cuts? Looking forward to your solutions! Sincerely, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Log Skipping Hard Start Time Events
We're testing with Rivendell as well and I never ran into this problem. I don't have a TOH set up, I just use an event in which BOH jingle, news, trafficreport and TOH jingle are loaded. In this case, the event just loads 4 carts. News and Trafficreport carts are given new content when available and I'm working on the BOH jingle to give it multiple cuts with timed availability (so the hour will be announced right automatically). At midnight (the 23-00 slot) I use a clock with a hard start time at .59.54.9, so the news will start at .00.00.0 (calculated that). All other slots have a hard start time with (wait 2:30) at .59.24.9. My news and TOH are therefore technically included in the past clock. I set it up this way, so I would be sure that the next log is loaded after midnight, because the hard start time will tell Rivendell to wait untill that time to start the event. My clocks usually schedule about one song too much, so I don't run into silences. I don't know if this answers any questions, it's just my 2 cents. Verstuurd Van: Brandon Sossamon Verzonden: maandag 17 maart 2014 20:09 Aan: Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org; Chris Howard - CBR Yes. I'll pull one when I get back to the machine this evening. For description; on the RDAirplay screen, the log in the right hand panel, all of the events that played are GRAY, the skipped event is WHITE, the playing is GREEN, the forthcoming is LIGHT GREEN. I'll get a shot to you this evening as I'm sure there were more skipped today. Thanks for the help! ---brandon Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:01:19 -0500 From: Chris Howard - CBR c...@elfpen.com To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Log Skipping Hard Start Time Events Message-ID: 5327467f.2080...@elfpen.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is it possible to see a screen shot of the log and the part it skipped? ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] nothing scheduling
Hello Chris, I ran into this problem a few weeks ago. Rivendell had set a - in the log template name (http://thebrettblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/riv8.png), causing an empty log. Replace the - with a _ (or just remove it) and your problem *should* be solved. Good luck! Peter. Verstuurd Van: c...@elfpen.com Verzonden: zondag 5 januari 2014 12:48 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org I'm new to Rivendell, let me know if this is not the right forum for my questions. I downloaded and installed the Rivendell Appliance. I have been following the How to schedule music blog posting at thebrettblog.wordpress.com but with little success. I have set up my own service and loaded audio carts into my own groups. I've been through the steps multiple times to make sure my host is in the host lists and my service is selected. But I am unable to get the scheduler to schedule anything. The list of events in my clock says they are scheduled events. But when I create a log the events are empty. Chris Howard ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] How does console importing handle dash and dot?
Hi Jeff, I forwarded this one to the system manager. He replied this: [quote] rdimport is going to see that first full stop [period] as the beginning of the suffix I would consider that a bug. The last full stop should probably be considered the beginning of the suffix, rather than the first. Also, I'm not entirely convinced the pattern matching stopping at a - in the artist name is a console error. The filename and pattern are quoted properly, so the dash - and spaces shouldn't confuse the console. And the filename is obviously passed properly to rdimport, else rdimport shouldn't be able to find the file at all. Also, the same syntax/command works fine with regular artist names. I'll have to do some more experimenting with different syntaxes. Either way, sure, it's all things we can work around. :-) [/quote] Kind regards and have a blast! Peter. Verstuurd Van: Robert Jeffares Verzonden: zondag 29 december 2013 05:04 Aan: Peter van Embden On 28/12/13 11:43, Peter van Embden wrote: (and here comes the problem) while importing files from console using rdimport with metadata pattern %a- %t.wav pattern matching seems to stop at a dash (-) or dot (.). A-Ha - Take on me.wav becomes artist A with title Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A..wav becomes artist Bruce Springsteen with Born in the U this one is a linux one .. %a - %t.wav will sort out A-Ha Although you may have to %a\ -\ %t.wav on some OS your match has no gap after the %a rdimport is going to see that first full stop [period] as the beginning of the suffix I would be cleaning out the extra '.' s and leaving .wav as the only place you see a '.' one more sed sweep for . regards robert___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] How does console importing handle dash and dot?
Hello! We're importing a lot of music into our new build database, all coming from .wav files from which the tags cannot be read by Rivendell (as far as we know). Luckily most files are properly named. But (and here comes the problem) while importing files from console using rdimport with metadata pattern %a- %t.wav pattern matching seems to stop at a dash (-) or dot (.). A-Ha - Take on me.wav becomes artist A with title Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A..wav becomes artist Bruce Springsteen with Born in the U Is this a bug in Rivendell or are we doing something wrong? Also, cart titles must be unique. Now we're playing the song Crazy by Gnarls Barkley, but also by Seal. Rivendell suggests we name one Crazy [1], but this seems a bit... strange? I would think that a combination of artist + title must be unique would make more sense. Do you have some advice for this case? Also, if we name one of them Crazy [1], will the [1] bit be reported for now/next statistics? As far as I know, at least one of you guys rocks and recognises the problem or can help us a step ahead. I must say that I'm quite new to this open source society and I really love the way everyone is helping one another. And since we are developing Rivendell in our own unique manner, I do hope to be helpful someday as well! Kind Regards, Peter van Embden. Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] How does console importing handle dash and dot?
It's without the . Verstuurd Van: Cowboy Verzonden: zaterdag 28 december 2013 00:29 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org On Friday 27 December 2013 05:43:17 pm Peter van Embden wrote: A-Ha - Take on me.wav becomes artist A with title Firstly, is it A-Ha - Take on me.wav that becomes artist A with title or is it A-Ha - Take on me.wav that becomes artist A with title ??? -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I tell them the truth and they never believe me. -- Camillo Di Cavour ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Empty logs
Hello! I have yet another question. This time it's about the logs. I've read and followed this manual: http://thebrettblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/rivendell-how-to-schedule-music/ But my log remains almost empty. The only thing scheduled is the hard-timed TotH I made. I've created an event called random: NO cue to this event NO timed start NO enforcing length NO pre-import carts IMPORT select from MUSIC, title seperation 1, must have code is blank FIRST CART has a SEGUE IMPORTED CARTS have a SEGUE NO post-import carts The event is set to the right SERVICES LIST The clock is made out of 1 TotH event and the rest are random events every 3 or 4 minutes. Clock is set to the right service. Scheduler rules are all but two set to MAX 999 and WAIT 0, except for two codes I don't want to be included, those are set to MAX 0 and WAIT 999. Artist seperation is set to 1. When I create a log, it calculates a little and then says No Errors and No exceptions found. Log is obvisiously created in the right service. When I put some songs in the random event PRE-IMPORT, those songs are put into the log. But only once an hour, where I scheduled some 16 or 18 of the random event in the clock. We run Rivendell 2.6.0 on CENT OS 6.5. Our database now consists of 4 songs, a TotH and a jingle. Working on the database though, importing loads of music and quite busy coding all the songs before setting them from UNTAGGED to MUSIC. Does anyone recognize this problem? Did I miss something? Or do we just need to build a bigger database first? We're quite excited about Rivendell, by the way! Happy Holidays! Peter van Embden. Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Empty logs
Did the trick! Found out Rivendell for some reason had decided to name the log RCapelle-%Y_%m_%d. Replaced the - with a _ and now it works! Cheers, Peter. Verstuurd Van: Wayne Merricks Verzonden: dinsdag 24 december 2013 14:46 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Empty logs seems like some sort of error. Try generating a log from the terminal and you'll get all the output: rdlogmanager -g -d 0 -s Production ~/logs.log 0 = tomorrow's log Production = the name of your service to generate a log for After this runs you will get a logs.log file with all the output that might give you some hints as to what is/isn't happening. On 2013-12-24 11:57, Peter van Embden wrote: Hello! I have yet another question. This time it's about the logs. I've read and followed this manual: http://thebrettblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/rivendell-how-to-schedule-music/ [1] But my log remains almost empty. The only thing scheduled is the hard-timed TotH I made. I've created an event called random: * NO cue to this event * NO timed start * NO enforcing length * NO pre-import carts * IMPORT select from MUSIC, title seperation 1, must have code is blank * FIRST CART has a SEGUE * IMPORTED CARTS have a SEGUE * NO post-import carts The event is set to the right SERVICES LIST The clock is made out of 1 TotH event and the rest are random events every 3 or 4 minutes. Clock is set to the right service. Scheduler rules are all but two set to MAX 999 and WAIT 0, except for two codes I don't want to be included, those are set to MAX 0 and WAIT 999. Artist seperation is set to 1. When I create a log, it calculates a little and then says No Errors and No exceptions found. Log is obvisiously created in the right service. When I put some songs in the random event PRE-IMPORT, those songs are put into the log. But only once an hour, where I scheduled some 16 or 18 of the random event in the clock. We run Rivendell 2.6.0 on CENT OS 6.5. Our database now consists of 4 songs, a TotH and a jingle. Working on the database though, importing loads of music and quite busy coding all the songs before setting them from UNTAGGED to MUSIC. Does anyone recognize this problem? Did I miss something? Or do we just need to build a bigger database first? We're quite excited about Rivendell, by the way! Happy Holidays! Peter van Embden. Verstuurd Links: -- [1] http://thebrettblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/rivendell-how-to-schedule-music/ ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Audioports not available in jack
Hello (again), You've been very helpfull so far (thanks a LOT!) and I think the station I'm working on is almost there. But, yet again, we've run into a problem my system manager (handy guy) can't fix. Here's what he wrote: _ We migrated from our test Rivendell machine to the final one it will eventually be. We created a new host, and removed the old test host from the system. Unfortunately, now Rivendell no longer creates any jack ports for us which we can route to our central audio server. In fact, when I do jack_lsp I only see the (networked) audio card. rivendell_0 isn't there. When I click manage hosts and edit audio ports, everything is greyed out. It says driver UNKNOWN and I can't seem to edit anything. I'm not sure where to proceed from here. I'm pretty sure this is connected to the changing of the hostnames. Which seemed logical at the time, but in hindsight maybe wasn't smart Either way, how can I get Rivendell to create jack ports again? Some extra information: our audio card consists of a firewire interface to a digital mixing desk. It is on a server dedicated only to the firewire interface. Rivendell should not (and cannot) worry about audio cards/routing of audio in our case. All it needs to do is just create the relevant jack ports on startup and our audio server can do the rest. _ If you know the answer to this, please let me know! Kind regards, Peter van Embden___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Audioports not available in jack
Hello Rick, Thanks for your quick reply, but what you stated is not the case. It's started from the same account as rivendell user, and jack_lsp executed from rivendell shows 8 system playback channels. Kind regards/groeten, Peter van Embden Verstuurd Van: Rick Verzonden: maandag 23 december 2013 14:11 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org As far as we ran in to similar problems this was due to the fact that RD did not run as the same user Jack was started by kind regards from the Netherlands, Rick Peter van Embden schreef op 23-12-2013 11:57: Hello (again), You've been very helpfull so far (thanks a LOT!) and I think the station I'm working on is almost there. But, yet again, we've run into a problem my system manager (handy guy) can't fix. Here's what he wrote: _ We migrated from our test Rivendell machine to the final one it will eventually be. We created a new host, and removed the old test host from the system. Unfortunately, now Rivendell no longer creates any jack ports for us which we can route to our central audio server. In fact, when I do jack_lsp I only see the (networked) audio card. rivendell_0 isn't there. When I click manage hosts and edit audio ports, everything is greyed out. It says driver UNKNOWN and I can't seem to edit anything. I'm not sure where to proceed from here. I'm pretty sure this is connected to the changing of the hostnames. Which seemed logical at the time, but in hindsight maybe wasn't smart Either way, how can I get Rivendell to create jack ports again? Some extra information: our audio card consists of a firewire interface to a digital mixing desk. It is on a server dedicated only to the firewire interface. Rivendell should not (and cannot) worry about audio cards/routing of audio in our case. All it needs to do is just create the relevant jack ports on startup and our audio server can do the rest. _ If you know the answer to this, please let me know! Kind regards, Peter van Embden ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Audioports not available in jack
Hi guys, We just tried this, but it didn't solve the problem. We have always been running jackd as rivendell user and things worked. The audio problem appeared when we renamed the host in rdadmin. Kind regards, Peter van Embden Verstuurd Van: Fred Gleason Verzonden: maandag 23 december 2013 18:33 Aan: Karl Koscher CC: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org On Dec 23, 2013, at 12:22 16, Karl Koscher super...@uwave.fm wrote: Or I guess more precisely, as the same user as caed. Our ubuntu install seems to have the Rivendell daemons running as a rivendell user, not root, and it's fine as long as jack is running as the same user. That user should also have real-time priority permissions as well... Correct. Cheers! |-| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |-| | A room without books is like a body without a soul.| | -- Cicero | |-| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Audioports not available in jack
We solved it! Jackd had to be started as root, now we're going to route the audio the right way. Thanks! Cheers, Peter. Verstuurd Van: Fred Gleason Verzonden: maandag 23 december 2013 18:33 Aan: Karl Koscher CC: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org On Dec 23, 2013, at 12:22 16, Karl Koscher super...@uwave.fm wrote: Or I guess more precisely, as the same user as caed. Our ubuntu install seems to have the Rivendell daemons running as a rivendell user, not root, and it's fine as long as jack is running as the same user. That user should also have real-time priority permissions as well... Correct. Cheers! |-| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |-| | A room without books is like a body without a soul.| | -- Cicero | |-| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Unable to create destination file
Hello again, I hope I don't bother you too much, but we are having an unexpected difficulty. While I should be finding out how to bulk import music with a dropbox-folder, I decided to demonstrate someone how a cart will be filled. So I created a cart, hit the Import/Export button, selected a song and pressed OK. At which point the above error appeared. The system manager/whizzkid tried to solve this, but the things he tried, didn't work. Underneath is what he sent me. _ Rivendell 2.6.0, op CentOS 6.5 I have no idea if there are more error logs of Rivendell, but /var/log/messages says: Dec 21 12:59:26 rdnonstop rdlibrary: invalid SQL or failed DB connection[You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') ((CART.TITLE like %)|| (CART.ARTIST like %)||(CART.CLIENT like 0x0.00668p-1022t line 1 QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query]: select CART.NUMBER,CART.FORCED_LENGTH,CART.TITLE,CART.ARTIST, CART.CLIENT,CART.AGENCY,CART.USER_DEFINED, CART.COMPOSER,CART.PUBLISHER,CART.CONDUCTOR, CART.GROUP_NAME,CART.START_DATETIME,CART.END_DATETIME,CART.TYPE, CART.CUT_QUANTITY,CART.LAST_CUT_PLAYED, CART.ENFORCE_LENGTH,CART.PRESERVE_PITCH, CART.LENGTH_DEVIATION,CART.OWNER,CART.VALIDITY,GROUPS.COLOR, CUTS.LENGTH,CUTS.EVERGREEN,CUTS.START_DATETIME,CUTS.END_DATETIME, CUTS.START_DAYPART,CUTS.END_DAYPART,CUTS.MON,CUTS.TUE, CUTS.WED,CUTS.THU,CUTS.FRI,CUTS.SAT,CUTS.SUN from CARTleft join GROUPS on CART.GROUP_NAME=GROUPS.NAMEleft join CUTS on CART.NUMBER=CUTS.CART_NUMBER where () ((CART.TITLE like %)|| (CART.ARTIST like %)||(CART.CLIENT like %)|| (CART.AGENCY like %)||(CART.ALBUM like %)|| (CART.LABEL like %)||(CART.NUMBER like %)|| (CART.PUBLISHER like %)||(CART.COMPOSER like %)|| (CART.CONDUCTOR like %)||(CART.SONG_ID like %)|| (CART.USER_DEFINED like %)||(CUTS.ISCI like %) ||(CUTS.ISRC like %) ||(CUTS.DESCRIPTION like %) ||(CUTS.OUTCUE like %)) ((TYPE=1)||(TYPE=2)||(TYPE=3)) order by CART.NUMBER limit 100 The error appears, I think, at the startup of RDLibrary. No errors appears while importing audio of deleting carts. Permissions of /var/snd/ are set to rivendell (mode 777 is set temporary to test, was 775): [root@rdnonstop ~]# ls -al /var/snd/ totaal 1900 drwxrwxrwx. 2 rivendell rivendell4096 dec 21 12:32 . drwxr-xr-x. 20 root root 4096 dec 19 13:51 .. -rw-r--r--. 1 rivendell rivendell 1933368 dec 19 15:09 99_001.wav AudioOwner and AudioGroup are set to rivendell: [root@rdnonstop ~]# grep Audio.*= /etc/rd.conf AudioOwner=rivendell AudioGroup=rivendell Rivendell user is in correct group: [root@rdnonstop ~]# groups rivendell rivendell : rivendell And rdlibrary is running as the correct user: [root@rdnonstop ~]# ps U rivendell | grep rdlibrary 1969 ?S 0:00 rdlibrary To top it all off, I've disabled SELinux: [root@rdnonstop ~]# sestatus SELinux status: disabled RDLibrary -should- have permissions to write to /var/snd/. _ So, does anyone know how to solve this? Because it would be really nice to have some music in our database, in order to start running a Rivendell operated radio station. Kind regards, Peter van Embden www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Unable to create destination file
Thanks for the answer, I'll forward it to the system manager.
I did select the cut in the cart (else the import dialog doesn't appear).
Filename contains an (avicii aloe blacc - wake me up.wav), is that a
problem?
All audio files are 16 bit .wav files.
I know it's going to be a lot of work to code all the songs, but I know that's
worth it. As a start I will code around 400-500 songs for non-stop playout and
as soon as that's working, I'll start coding more and more songs. Is it
possible, if I do a (bulk) import, to code all songs with the UNTAGGED code I
created? So they're easy to find and easy to keep out of the non-stop.
Kind regards,
Peter van Embden
Verstuurd
Van: Robert Jeffares
Verzonden: zaterdag 21 december 2013 20:30
Aan: Peter van Embden
On 22/12/13 03:35, Peter van Embden wrote:
So I created a cart, hit the Import/Export button, selected a song and pressed
OK. At which point the above error appeared.
Using this method you have to select the CUT in the CART then hit Import/Export.
However
If you are importing audio files which have filenames with unacceptable
characters like ; and some Umlaut, then RD won't play ball. * is guaranteed
not to work.
I would have the guru line up a selection [say 20] music files [copies not the
originals] in a folder and from the command line use [ having cd to the folder]
rdimport --verbose --delete-source MUSIC(or whatever the group is you want to
import into) *.wav,mp3,ogg.(the type of file your music is in)
The rdimport will tell you whats happening and why.
Your music may be in some format that is not enabled in rdimport. eg: It may
be mp3 sampled too low in resolution.
Depending on the problem there is a solution.
I have a file renaming script which works on a library I have been importing.
It's a collection of the various name glitches which we eliminate by running
the filename through sed.
#! /bin/bash
for i in ./*mp3;do mv -- $i ${i/ - /-};done
for i in ./*mp3;do mv -- $i ${i/[!@#\$%^*()]/};done
The format will enable the guru to work through your files. If you add the
local things you need to clean out as they come up you can get a 20+ line
script which can make a large number of files usable by running the script
once.
rdimport can then be used to take filenames and put the artist title etc in the
right place.
caveat: rdimport will have a file limit and I suggest 1000. Your system may do
more but thats a manageable bunch of song titles.
Importing a big library will take time but it's definitely worth it.
regards
Robert Jeffares
Big Valley Radio
The Wireless Station
Radio Spice
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[RDD] Database bulk import
Hello, Yesterday we started installing Rivendell (2.6.0) at the station where I work (Radio Capelle, Netherlands). I now wnat to import a database, but since we already have a database, I don't really feel like importing the audiofiles one at a time by hand. Is it possible to put all the files I want to import into a folder (with sub-folders by genre, if possible) and let Rivendell do the rest? That way I only have to select the songs from the database which don't have codes yet (is that possible, or do I need to give a code named UNTAGGED or something?) and start giving them codes, set intro's, outtro's, segues and so on. It would save me A LOT of work if this first step can be automated (including normalizing and trimming). Each file (song, in this case) should get its own cart. Thanks in advance and I'll keep you updated about the progress. I have some very different ideas about which codes (or tags, as I prefer) you can give to songs. I already created over 40 codes. Cheers, Peter van Embden Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Database_bulk_import
Hi, Thanks for your answer. We're doing a fresh install, never done Rivendell before (allright, I did test it a few months ago, but made a crappy little database with about 50 128k MP3 files which Rivendell converted to .mp2 for me, so not usable for the station). Our old database had mp3's disguised as .wav, but I got hands on a way too big (2.5 TB) database with just .wav files. From that huge collection I want to build a new database. So I guess a dropbox-folder will have to do the trick. Can I direct the dropboxfolder to import to MUSIC and assign cartnumbers automatically? I chose the 11-50 range for that (yes, the amount of 0's is correct, I reserved 400,000 carts for music), by the way. I've been looking for dropbox options and I've already decided that each program will get its own dropbox for recorded hours (if needed), where the contents of the dropbox will overwrite the previous cut that has been filled in the cart. Kind regards, Peter van Embden www.radiocapelle.nl Verstuurd Van: Lorne Tyndale Verzonden: vrijdag 20 december 2013 18:41 Aan: Peter_van_Embden; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Hi, Are you updating from a previous version of Rivendell, or switching from another automation system over to Rivendell? If updating from a previous version of Rivendell, as long as your /var/snd has the correct permissions then you can just import your database from the old Rivendell install, run rdadmin (to trigger the initial database check / update), and you should be good to go. Unless you're updating from the 1.x.x branch, in which case you'll also need to ensure that Apache is running and set up correctly. If you're switching from another automation system then it'll all depend on the system you're coming from. You can still set up a drop-box on the Rivendell machine and dump your audio files into that, let Rivendell do the import. If your files all have metadata (mp3's with the ID tags, WAV files with Cartchunk, etc) or if the information is a part of the file name (you can specify the metadata pattern in the dropbox setup) then Rivendell will do most of the work for you. Hello, Yesterday we started installing Rivendell (2.6.0) at the station where I work (Radio Capelle, Netherlands). I now wnat to import a database, but since we already have a database, I don't really feel like importing the audiofiles one at a time by hand. Is it possible to put all the files I want to import into a folder (with sub-folders by genre, if possible) and let Rivendell do the rest? That way I only have to select the songs from the database which don't have codes yet (is that possible, or do I need to give a code named UNTAGGED or something?) and start giving them codes, set intro's, outtro's, segues and so on. It would save me A LOT of work if this first step can be automated (including normalizing and trimming). Each file (song, in this case) should get its own cart. Thanks in advance and I'll keep you updated about the progress. I have some very different ideas about which codes (or tags, as I prefer) you can give to songs. I already created over 40 codes. Cheers, Peter van Embden Verstuurdhr___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Is Rivendell suited for my station?
Thanks a lot guys! You've convinced me to get Rivendell installed in our studio. I'll keep you posted about the progress when a question pops up, maybe I'll even start a blog. Anyhow, thanks a lot for the answers, you really helped me out very good. Regards, Peter van Embden. Verstuurd Van: Robert Jeffares Verzonden: zondag 10 november 2013 08:51 Aan: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org; navd...@radiospice.co.nz On 07/11/13 23:06, Peter van Embden wrote: Hello, Is it possible to time an event backwards? yes Is it possible to not start a new record when the clock is about to end within a minute? Instead of a song, I'd rather have drone and/or station promo. yes It is possible to download the news automatically, but is it also possible to let a bed play under the news? And that the newsfile is leading, so the bed will stop playing as soon as the news is over and it's time for the next event. yes yes Does Rivendell have a commercialplanner? Or is there another way to deal with commercials in a clock? no, yes We work with volunteers only, who will not always be able to broadcast live (mainly shows in the evening). Those people record their shows in advance. Sometimes at home, sometimes in the studio. This question has some points: Is Rivendell able to record the mixer in studio while it is off air? yes If someone records his/her show at home (or at the studio without using Rivendell) with Audacity or so, and saves the file to a certain location, can I program Rivendell to automatically start that file? in a word yes Is it possible to use Rivendell to voicetrack a show with own musicfiles? E.g. user inserts USB-drive into Rivendell-machine and inserts his music into a playlist or a certain time in the playlist (where his show will be broadcasted). own music files get loaded in to system, but yes Does Rivendell use the original audio files, or puts them in a database of its own? files are saved as wav [or mpeg2] Data is saved in database. As I told in the introduction, the studio already runs Linux and everyone had his/her own login. Where does Rivendell get/store the login-data? Or, as I was told to ask, is Rivendell PAM? What does it use for user-database/authenitifcation method? linux login can give access to 1 or more rivendell users depending on your needs; each user can have more or less access We do not want everybody to f*ck up the whole schedule (we work with volunteers, some are just plain stupid or really like to mess around, because they don't care). How do I prevent my users from being able to edit the main playlist or other scheduled events? In the system we use now, everyone is able to skip the news (most people don't know this, or don't know how to this, but it is possible for every user). I don't want this to be able to happen anymore. you can control who has access to everything. total absolute. We have 3 (in the future 4) types of programmes: Non-stop, live-assist and pre-recorded (voicetracking will be added as soon as we are able to do so). Nobody (except admin, of course) will be able to mess with non-stop. Is it possible to let non-stop play from a server and switch to live-assist when programmed? I mean, it is possible to switch the mixer on-air and off-air, isn't it? Let's say it's saturdaymorning and non-stop will be playing untill 8.00. After that, we have the news, traffic, commercials, promo's and Top of the Hour, and then a live-assist show starts. From that moment on, the mixer will have to be On-Air, but the host will need a log to be loaded with the music and item jingles he needs. In which he will have to be able to skip and add certain audio. But at around 9.00 the news will have to overrule whatever is happening, without the host being able to interfere. you can arrange this: Taking the mixer out of circuit will involve an external switch which takes the audio card output and routes it to the stage after the mixer in the programme chain. Does Rivendell have a silence-detector? If it's silent for more than a certain time, something should start playing! Can Rivendell automatically build an emergency playlist to fill a gap? NO Can a macro-command als load a certain soundboard? So at the start of every hour (of at the start of an event) the specific soundboard for that show will be loaded. yes I haven't been able to figure out how voicetracking works, due to I have tested it on a laptop (installed Linux onto a USB-drive, works fine and Windows still works on the internal HDD) with a very simple soundcard, but I figure it has the possibility to adjust segue-points for that one time? yes When a show is using live-assist, is it possible to group audio? So that after a talk, the host can just start a jingle and walk away, because Rivendell non-stops a song (or 2) afterwards until the next talk? no you need to go to auto for that If this is possible
[RDD] What OS to use for a fresh Rivendell install?
Hello, You've convinced me to get Rivendell installed in our radio studio, so now we will do that. And since it'll be an installation from scratch, we're wondering what version of Linux to install. We've got a server with CENT OS 6.4, but according to the system manager, Rivendell will have nothing to do with that. From the moment of installation on, we'll setup Rivendell for non-stop automation, some virtual machines in studio's 1 and 2 for live-assist, and another one in the editing room. So, do we have to install Rivendell from RRAbuntu.iso, or do you have a better option? Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Is Rivendell suited for my station?
start a jingle and walk away, because Rivendell non-stops a song (or 2) afterwards until the next talk? If this is possible, is it then possible to manually fine-tune the mixing of the group? If you have ever worked with Dalet or PC-Radio, you'll know what i mean. Allright, it were quite some more questions than I predicted, but if all of these are answered positively, I can start installing Rivendell in the studio, start building a playlist (gotta love that part, NOT) and let the radiostation switch to Rivendell before 2014. Thank you for your time! Kind regards, Peter van Embden Radio Capelle, The Netherlands Verstuurd___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
