Re: [313] Roland MS-1 sampler question
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, kenneth taylor wrote: Hi everyone, I just bought a Roland MS-1 digital sampler but it has no manual. It came with what looks to be a blank memory card. Does anyone have a manual that they can photocopy or perhaps lead me to a place where I can procure one? What does a regular full memory card look like? Any help is welcome. Those are 'smart memory' cards -- check with the Roland website. They might have a manual PDF on line, or at least you can order a reprint. The smart cards are used in things like digital cameras and mp3 players too, but since the MS-1 is an older design it might be picky about the cards it accepts. I was underwhelmed by the MS-1's capabilities -- I had a chance to buy one cheap and didn't.
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
What about having the Metroplex logo on the side of the car and a Planet E air freshener hanging off the rear vision mirror! Peace, Patrick. -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 9:54 AM To: Dan Sicko; keleigh casper Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Also from Ford look for the upcoming Made In Detroit Ford Focus which will be a limited edition Focus decked out with the famous Stanzler/Arnett logo on the sides. no I'm not kidding this time. -- sean deason matrix records p.o. box 343 dearborn, mi 48121-0343 ph/fax: 313.582.3410 cell: 313.522.3550 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:46:35 -0500 To: keleigh casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Wow. I was *just* going to post about the new print ad I saw for Focus with the headline Detroit Techno. I just thought some clever copywriter at JWT snuck one past his or her superiors, but this is bigger than I thought! -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
what does everyone think about this?
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
i think it is very kool! educate! as long as the music involved is not watered down, and juan get's paid, what's wrong with that? people must open themselves to others just a little, but still live by they principles. the view from the summit is always great, but it can be much better when you can share it. criticism n envy will make you depressed. bond.jamesbond. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
I hate cars, but I love Juan Atkins. Such a dilemma! Glad he's making some bucks. He deserves it. --dick richards Nathan John de Yonker wrote: I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To listen to my latest songs go to: http://www.mp3.com/dickrichards Also check out my station orgone accumulator for minimal techno and ambient pieces. http://www.mp3.com/stations/orgone_accumulator
Re: [313] Opinions..
sims would be a drawcard to a few in adelaide too but unfortunately the numbers here means if the promotors put on a party it's only a few hundred dedicated adelaideans that are there, so they just can't afford to do the parties it's a sad truth that a party with umek, valentino, common factor, recloose, and wet musik can't pull a big enuff crowd to break even... i also heard that sydney doesn't get that many tech acts - and that was from techione aka damc a sydney-sider i don't know about a national mag, i always cringe when i see the word dance specially in tech related discussions our local street press seems to only devote 1 page to tech, and maybe 2 record reviews... [cw] ps cyclone: r u affiliated with onion in adelaide at all From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is talk of a national dance mag starting in Australia - based in Sydney and run by UK publishers - and I fear this will mean that our diversity will be compromised. It's very hard to convince English industry types (esp those aligned with large clubs) that each country has its own unique make-up and that other scenes are not merely small, backward models of theirs. They just come here and see what they want to see. Very few industry types in Sydney have a clue about techno (it is very subcultural there, I think other Sydney guys on this list would agree, this is why we should send Christmas cards to Southern Outpost, Fuzzy, etc, for keeping it real!!) so if a magazine came out of there you could bet that people we care about in Melbourne or Adelaide or Perth or Sydney's underground would have to conform. Thank God also that the Sydney street press still covers techno and at least gives people the option of finding out about it, a Sydney glossy won't do the same. Any one see that letter written by Sydney's Ministry of Sound boys in 7 in which they refuted that Ben Sims was popular in Australia with the rather embarassing who the hell is Ben Sims? Nice guys who just have to do their homework. Like they didn't have an inkling that Sims was a drawcard in cities like Melbourne. It was really funny to us but was more Sydney-centricism/UK-centricism than ignorance. == in the raw red dusk we said good-by, on a bridge over a superhighway... kerouac - OTR, 1958 == _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Nathan John de Yonker wrote: I approve Me too. I remember the first time I heard techno appropriated by traditional institutions in Detroit--the NBC affiliate (channel 4 wdiv) would use some of May's work for their breaking news soundtrack. And for their news commercials too. I guess it can be argued that this was straight up cooptationbut the cultural (detroit) nationalist in me thought that it was more of a case of our own finally being recognized. I loved it. And given that I don't hear NO UFO's all that often--my cd player is down and my brother has my 12'--it'll be cool as hell to hear it. Damn cool. As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Take THE MATRIX for instance. Can you imagine how dope it would've been to hear STRINGS OF LIFE for example, during the scene where Neo rescues Morpheus? peace lks
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more new items added to auction on http://techno.ca/cognition
added today to the Fundraising Auction on Cognition: http://techno.ca/cognition prize packages and/or label subscriptions from: Interdimensional Transmissions (Ann Arbor MI) Sprout (Hydrant sublabel) Daniel Lui's Chair Recordings (Toronto) Morgan Geist's Environ David Duriez' Brique Rouge (Paris) Public Transit Recordings (Toronto) [with Nick Holder remix] V/Vm Test Records (UK) -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix 3rd annual Fundraising Auction for CKDU is now underway: http://techno.ca/cognition auction ends Wednesday November 29 at 12noon AST
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but imagine something like T1000, Denham, Young, etc etc etc. Ass-kickin stuff. Dave --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take THE MATRIX for instance. Can you imagine how dope it would've been to hear STRINGS OF LIFE for example, during the scene where Neo rescues Morpheus? __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: Ford And Atkins
... but... but... wha..? I just bought the KONA Mountain Bike Edition focus ZX3 w/ rack and KONA BLAST 2001 mountain bike... damn, J. E. v.F-B. B.
Groovetech website
Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it and all these stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today when the old site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to find it. Terrible. Check it out and let me know what you think... https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
10 years to late --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ]
Re: [313] deep chord cd
I agree 100%. The more I hear Deep Chord 9 (the only one I have), the more I can appreciate the nuances. Any time you're talking about the difference between separate M releases you're talking about a matter of a few degrees. They're *very* simliar tracks - but unique. The Deep Chord sound definitely distills the main BC/CR ingredients into a slightly housier format, so I can see why Gilles is and has been so crazy about them. It's very subtle stuff - dare I say, more subtle than BC/CR in that what distinguishes it will not be apparent on one or even five listens. Of course it's not innovative on the same level as BC/CR was, but they really haven't innovated much lately either. We wouldn't be where we are today without them, they continue to make amazing tracks, but they're not pushing the sound in a new direction as much as say Kit Clayton, Vladislav Delay, or Jacek Siegnewicz. Obviously innovation is not the only yard stick, which is why I like Deep Chord - and I like it a lot. The differences are there, just give them a chance to settle in. I felt exactly the same way the first few times I heard it. I think Gilles said it best, even if they don't appear that way at first. Even if you disagree with all that, you could always consider them BC/CR tools, if that makes any sense. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William VanLoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [313] deep chord cd Bill + 313, I love you man, but, and I knpow this may create some FP dissent, but I think they've really taken that sound to a new level, The CR rcirds are all starting to sound too similar to me, although, like yourself, I still buy them lovingly. Especially the Scion / Tikiman / Burial Mix / Round ... stuff. But, the early basic channel records to me were sophisticated in their sounds, but the Deep Chord records have really tightened up the FUNK in those tracks. In a really mellow HOUSEY way. I have the CD and yes we all agree it rocks, and sure it sounds a lot like that sound, but I think they've brought it closer toa less abstract sound a me like sthat, they mix really well with my other records, like Blue Six, and a lot of the other housier deep stuff I like to play. Just my 2 cents. ps. are those K2000's they're using? // GILES William VanLoo wrote: Call down to recordtime roseville, there might still be a few copies hanging around, 7,8, and 9 are the only ones available on vinyl. Definitely a label worth checking out, I like their stuff better than most Chain Reaction. I listened to a friend's copy of the Deep Chord CD today, and I have entirely mixed feeling. On one hand - the sounds are classic Basic Channel, from the synths used to the reverb to the grit and noise. It bangs, no doubt. If it were playing in a club, I'd run up to the DJ booth to see what it was. On the other hand - it sounds so much like records on the Basic Channel / Chain Reaction family of labels that it almost hurts. I was debating this with the friend who loaned me the disc, and mentioned this opinion. He said, half the records you own sound like Basic Channel. My thinking is, yes, I own lots of records whose producers were heavily influenced by Basic Channel. My own music is certainly influenced by BC/CR, and I'd never deny that influence. But the records I own that are influenced have some sort of uniqueness that show that BC/CR is *only* an influence, and not the exact blueprint for the release. I feel bad criticizing, since Deep Chord are some of the only artists doing BC/CR styled techno in Detroit. They are doing very well with their tracks, too - I think their stuff is selling well, judging by what I've seen when I've been at Record Time. I'm not trying to player hate, but I do feel that I'd like their music a lot better if they took the skill it requires to make their tracks, and apply more of their own creativity to the sounds and composition than they have on the tracks making up the CD. I'm going to chalk this one up as an impressive first effort by artists whose later work I'll buy if it progresses. I'll probably pick up number 9 on 12 eventually, as that (and track 10) were my favorites that I heard. shake it fass, mt Show me what you're working with. BVL -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I just dropped Groovetech a line about the site. I hope they get it straightened out because I loved their old site, but I will go to another online shop to buy records. Let's hope they get this fixed before DEMF 2001! Fred From: John W Fisher II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:53:31 -0500 I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I'll third this site it is really good looking but ???none of the links work and I don't know maybe we need a ford badge on it or somethin it took ages to down load it ..to many graphics as i said just like a ford looks good but doesn't go anywhere... Cheers, Bw p.s anyone know when Detroit Dj's are coming to sydney??? any tours planned??? -Original Message- From: John W Fisher II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copying or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your system. Utility Services Corporation (USC) is not responsible for any changes made to the material other than those made by USC or for the effect of the changes on the meaning of the material.
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I don't know what they're going to do. Like John said, the site is one of the most visually pleasing sites I have ever seen, but functionality goes right out the window. Maybe their vision would be more fully realized with software that is actually stored on the users computer rather than this sluggish Java/ActiveX/etc. thing they got going here. Either way, I'm sure they spent A LOT of money on that design and may not have a choice. Very unfortunate because Groovetech is an excellent online record store. Braden. -Original Message- From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website I just dropped Groovetech a line about the site. I hope they get it straightened out because I loved their old site, but I will go to another online shop to buy records. Let's hope they get this fixed before DEMF 2001! Fred From: John W Fisher II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:53:31 -0500 I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Groovetech website
The log in thing is a waste of time for the user. They must be trying to track how often each person logs in vs. how often they purchase. I did get an automatic response back from them and I'm sitting on the edge of my seat in expectation of a real answer to my email I sent them. I'll post it to 313 as soon as I get it. Fred If it ain't broke...take it apart, lose a couple of pieces and then it will be From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:10:24 -0800 yep, that REALLY sucks. i have a dsl connection and it's still virtually unusable. this thing is a design catastrophe, unless you only plan on using it for wallpaper. and requiring people to log in order to do anything is a major mistake. At 4:00 AM + 11/9/00, FRED MCMURRY wrote: I just dropped Groovetech a line about the site. I hope they get it straightened out because I loved their old site, but I will go to another online shop to buy records. Let's hope they get this fixed before DEMF 2001! Fred From: John W Fisher II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech website Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:53:31 -0500 I'll second this one. Graphically, this site is absolutely beautiful, I really like what I see. However, from a usability standpoint, it is in some serious need of help. Like a porcupine in a balloon factory. less is more. Fish ] -Original Message- ] From: FRED MCMURRY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:37 PM ] To: 313@hyperreal.org ] Subject: [313] Groovetech website ] ] ] Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? ] At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it ] and all these ] stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very ] simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't ] appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today ] when the old ] site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to ] find it. Terrible. ] Check it out and let me know what you think... ] https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home ] ] Fred ] _ ] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ] ] Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at ] http://profiles.msn.com. ] ] ] - ] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500 ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
lol however, I was thinking more like a CD single...but vinyl would be hilarious. Fred From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST) I think the expression on my dad's or insert another conservative car-buyer face if the Ford dealership handed him her a piece of vinyl with a shiny new auto. uhh.. what the hell's this?... Well, let's just say it's much better than the music you hear on Dodge commercials during Tigers' games :) n8 On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote: Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500 ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Alternatives...was GrooveTech.
Dance Tracks just had their site redone by some mates of mine and it is miles better than the new GT site...give it a try, The search engine is great. They don't stock a lot of Techno, but what they do have is top-notch. http://www.dancetracks.com/ Peace, Mark* _ Mark S. Krüx Cel - 917.817.3989 DJ / Photographer Fax - 877.485.3477 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _
Re: [313] deep chord cd
Giles + Bill + 313, I have been bouncing the Deepchord cd in my car over the last two days and I've come to a similar conclusion as BVL. The tracks are great and I'm really into them-- and they sound great loud when cruising, but I can't help but think that these records were done by someone trying very hard to do BC/CR and on top of that really don't *yet* have the production quality to pull of the complete forge. I'd like to be polite and say the 'funkier' unproduced sound of the percussion elements was intentional, but it really sounds to me like they aren't completely *there* yet on studio techniques. Now I'm not talking about 'big production' studio techniques--we know the BC/CR camp has some of the most raw techniques we've heard--BUT it *is* fully refined. The Deepchord sounds raw-- but *not* fully refined. The kind of 'raw' you get for trying-- but not completely getting there at first. Maybe I'm too critical --the guy I voted for isn't going to the whitehouse and I'm edgy--so just as Bill said these guys are just getting started so I'm sure as they progress they will experiment and come into their own sound and production aesthetic just as most artists do. I'm eager to see where they take it, and I am enjoying listening to the tracks on the cd. A good listen. Dale At 10:17 AM 11/8/00 -0700, you wrote: Bill + 313, I love you man, but, and I knpow this may create some FP dissent, but I think they've really taken that sound to a new level, The CR rcirds are all starting to sound too similar to me, although, like yourself, I still buy them lovingly. Especially the Scion / Tikiman / Burial Mix / Round ... stuff. But, the early basic channel records to me were sophisticated in their sounds, but the Deep Chord records have really tightened up the FUNK in those tracks. In a really mellow HOUSEY way. I have the CD and yes we all agree it rocks, and sure it sounds a lot like that sound, but I think they've brought it closer toa less abstract sound a me like sthat, they mix really well with my other records, like Blue Six, and a lot of the other housier deep stuff I like to play. Just my 2 cents. ps. are those K2000's they're using? // GILES
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Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Pontiac had the best music for cars. It was some industrial number. Pretty neat --- FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol however, I was thinking more like a CD single...but vinyl would be hilarious. Fred From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:47:35 -0500 (EST) I think the expression on my dad's or insert another conservative car-buyer face if the Ford dealership handed him her a piece of vinyl with a shiny new auto. uhh.. what the hell's this?... Well, let's just say it's much better than the music you hear on Dodge commercials during Tigers' games :) n8 On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, FRED MCMURRY wrote: Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:55:16 -0500 ditto -- sean deason From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins I approve On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does everyone think about this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Diehard Technoheads
Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Kevin S.
Maybe one of the better detroiters out there because he actually went harder then the rest. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Kevin S.
In a message dated 00-11-09 01:42:28 EST, you write: Maybe one of the better detroiters out there because he actually went harder then the rest. And your point is? -Patrick
Re: [313] Kevin S.
the point is to see what people have to say. and must you post 3 times? It's a bit obnoxious. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 00-11-09 01:42:28 EST, you write: Maybe one of the better detroiters out there because he actually went harder then the rest. And your point is...? Patrick __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
I hear the new model (500) is fitted out with inbuilt 909,808,303 and sampler. sam --- Patrick Wacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about having the Metroplex logo on the side of the car and a Planet E air freshener hanging off the rear vision mirror! Peace, Patrick. -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 9:54 AM To: Dan Sicko; keleigh casper Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Also from Ford look for the upcoming Made In Detroit Ford Focus which will be a limited edition Focus decked out with the famous Stanzler/Arnett logo on the sides. no I'm not kidding this time. -- sean deason matrix records p.o. box 343 dearborn, mi 48121-0343 ph/fax: 313.582.3410 cell: 313.522.3550 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:46:35 -0500 To: keleigh casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Wow. I was *just* going to post about the new print ad I saw for Focus with the headline Detroit Techno. I just thought some clever copywriter at JWT snuck one past his or her superiors, but this is bigger than I thought! -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I found the search pretty easily. You can get around the login by clicking your continent. I agree this doesn't seem incredibly intuitive. It's actually pretty annoying. I didn't bother to register, but it doesn't look like you get the option to avoid this login screen even if you do. I do think the buttons are fairly easy to spot. Once I got past the login, it was fairly intuitive. (It's just windows, tabs, and buttons) I also like the new ability to continue searching while looking at the details of an item, or checking real audio. (the separate windows make this possible) When searching, I used to have the option to view more items per page, by choosing Text. (I'm sure this is invaluable to people w/56k connections). It doesn't seem to exist on the new site. Other major complaints -- 1. It's easy to break. It crashed my browser on the first try -- IE 5.5 on Windows 2000. (It's usually pretty stable) I also managed to get a few javascript errors. 2. It's slow. (cable modem - avg 90-130 kilobytes/sec) I'm curious about how it comes across on a phone line connection. Anyone out there with a 56k and a stopwatch? 3. Every time I go to the site, I get a popup saying the page is trying to display non-secure items. There's got to be a way to prevent that. 4. My normal browsing tools are useless. (Back button, wheel on my mouse, bookmarks) 5. What is the control panel all about? It looks like a way to minimize and close windows, but the windows have buttons to do that. I'd expect it to allow me to change settings of some sort. 6. It's very difficult to browse. All listings are retrieved by searches. I hope to hear other opinions on this, I think it's overall more intuitive than the old one. (Listening Lab never really shouted STORE to me) Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Groovetech website
it's WAY too slow, even for my cable connection :( Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: [313] Groovetech website Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it and all these stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today when the old site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to find it. Terrible. Check it out and let me know what you think... https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
You can dis the car all you like, but why do you have to critisize a classic like No UFOs. Even if you don't like the track yourself, you must be able to appreciate what it's done for techno music... At the very least, don't call the track dead! np: No UFOs Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins Ford, quite possibly some of the worst cars on the road. ford has nothing on Pontiac. Too bad they couldn't find a real futuristic track for this, but what do you expect. You get what is equalk to the car, a dead track and a dead car with no power. However it might be a fun commercial. I'll take a look. A good track would be dj dione's-darkness brightness. Now that's futurism.
Re: [313] Groovetech website
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Christian Bloch wrote: it's WAY too slow, even for my cable connection :( first time: it's horrible. i stopped waiting after 3 minutes, it was coming to me something like 200 bytes/sec. and we have decent connection. retry: browser notified me few times about https (isn't one time enough..) and crashed the browser sakke Hey, anyone else think that the new Groovetech website is a complete mess? At first I thought it was cool but then I tried to navigate it and all these stupid windows open up and searching for things (which used to be very simple) is now very complicated and items that I know they have don't appear. I know they have them because I checked earlier today when the old site was still in existance. Now some stuff has to be cross referenced to find it. Terrible. Check it out and let me know what you think... https://groovetech.com/GTWS/Home Fred _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Groovetech website
2. It's slow. (cable modem - avg 90-130 kilobytes/sec) I'm curious about how it comes across on a phone line connection. Anyone out there with a 56k and a stopwatch? A 14.4 here, til Friday. (Cable modem, finally.) And you really, really don't want to know the time. I don't. I gave up. Josh
real audio techno
Does anyone have a good ra site for listening and then buying? Any help would be appreciated. tek __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
New music format
Has anyone heard of it. i think it's called ear? __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
what does everyone think about this? i think it is amusing and sad. highlights the contradictions in culture i see when i look at the usa. (plank own eye yeah yeah) ford- the corporation that systemised worker exploitation. a founder who was a facist. an organisation that deskilled it's workers. and had no qualms in laying people off between model runs. would we have techno without this? i don't think so.. detroit wouldn't be detroit (now that's stating the obvious) maybe i burden the music with unreasonable expectation. maybe music is music after all and there is no message. maybe the sonic revolution is silent, emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it-
R: [313] Diehard Technoheads
Ai lav teknov!!! - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: [313] Diehard Technoheads Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Track
New track at www.mp3.com/kontroll Intense Dreams.. Your feedback woud be appreciated. KonTroll Intelectrical Recordings http://www.intelectricalrecords.com http://www.mp3.com/kontroll ICQ 27749804 4 Leni Road Windham, NH 03087 (603) 553-5054
Re: [313] R: [313] Diehard Technoheads
if you like good techno, you have to like good house. IT`S THE SAME THING! that`s why.
RE: [313] Groovetech website
Alex H., of Groovetech, used to be on 313...perhaps he still is. So I'm sure all this feedback is listened to...otherwise, I think it be best to feed the observations of the new site straight to GT, where it will serve better purpose. d _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: tek noid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:30 AM Subject: [313] New music format Has anyone heard of it. i think it's called ear? __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
It seems clear to me this person is trying to stir things up around here. I wouldn't give it the time of day. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins You can dis the car all you like, but why do you have to critisize a classic like No UFOs. Even if you don't like the track yourself, you must be able to appreciate what it's done for techno music... At the very least, don't call the track dead! np: No UFOs Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins Ford, quite possibly some of the worst cars on the road. ford has nothing on Pontiac. Too bad they couldn't find a real futuristic track for this, but what do you expect. You get what is equalk to the car, a dead track and a dead car with no power. However it might be a fun commercial. I'll take a look. A good track would be dj dione's-darkness brightness. Now that's futurism. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
R: [313] Ford and Atkins
I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? fab - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins It seems clear to me this person is trying to stir things up around here. I wouldn't give it the time of day. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins You can dis the car all you like, but why do you have to critisize a classic like No UFOs. Even if you don't like the track yourself, you must be able to appreciate what it's done for techno music... At the very least, don't call the track dead! np: No UFOs Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins Ford, quite possibly some of the worst cars on the road. ford has nothing on Pontiac. Too bad they couldn't find a real futuristic track for this, but what do you expect. You get what is equalk to the car, a dead track and a dead car with no power. However it might be a fun commercial. I'll take a look. A good track would be dj dione's-darkness brightness. Now that's futurism. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? i too think this is a wonderful thing. does anyone know if ford is going to state in the ad anywhere who the track is by or what the track is? I'm not sure if someone saw the ad, and liked the tune that they would know where to look to get more.
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't really see it as a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for atkins himself, he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's not a hack job on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that the man was not compensated for the importance of his music in the first place. to me it's just another example of a big corporation jumping on something way after the fact, stomping on something beautiful like a giant baby hewy and milking it for financial gain. maybe it will expose some people to the music that will be enriched by it and go on to learning more about it but, for every one of those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could care less about the tune or anything that is good art in general and why waste good a art on sheep? i believe the people who would appreciate it would have found it eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i know? -Original Message- From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? i too think this is a wonderful thing. does anyone know if ford is going to state in the ad anywhere who the track is by or what the track is? I'm not sure if someone saw the ad, and liked the tune that they would know where to look to get more. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
the contradictions are quite interesting, esp. given the misquote usually attributed to Juan saying he was more interested in Ford's robots than his cars. But rather than an uncomfortable connection with Ford's past, wouldn't this be a great place from which to move forward? Or are the sins of the father too much to bear? -d what does everyone think about this? i think it is amusing and sad. highlights the contradictions in culture i see when i look at the usa. (plank own eye yeah yeah) ford- the corporation that systemised worker exploitation. a founder who was a facist. an organisation that deskilled it's workers. and had no qualms in laying people off between model runs. would we have techno without this? i don't think so.. detroit wouldn't be detroit (now that's stating the obvious) maybe i burden the music with unreasonable expectation. maybe music is music after all and there is no message. maybe the sonic revolution is silent, emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Kevin S.
your post is a tad obnoxious in that 1.) saunderson is quite housey, 2.) your views are narrow musically speaking... Saunderson is one of my heroes in a way in that he showed me you don't need to play just one type... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [313] Kevin S. the point is to see what people have to say. and must you post 3 times? It's a bit obnoxious. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 00-11-09 01:42:28 EST, you write: Maybe one of the better detroiters out there because he actually went harder then the rest. And your point is...? Patrick __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins]
Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May 'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they actually have a bio as well. Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to 'dj' their Detroit auto show 2000 In which the new Hummer concept was brought out while Jaugar was playing. Much to the enjoyment of the UK/Euro press and leaving the locals not knowing whats going on [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [Re: [313] R: [313] Diehard Technoheads]
Exactly ...and why not let music open up your mind with its limitless possibilities...i.e. Do we have to hate one thing to enjoy another??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you like good techno, you have to like good house. IT`S THE SAME THING! that`s why. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't really see it as a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for atkins himself, he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's not a hack job on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that the man was not compensated for the importance of his music in the first place. to me it's just another example of a big corporation jumping on something way after the fact, stomping on something beautiful like a giant baby hewy and milking it for financial gain. maybe it will expose some people to the music that will be enriched by it and go on to learning more about it but, for every one of those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could care less about the tune or anything that is good art in general and why waste good a art on sheep? i believe the people who would appreciate it would have found it eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i know? I can agree it's a shame Juan wasn't getting acclaim back in the day, but I don't think a 1 to 100 person ratio is that bad. I am not sure what determines somethings art quotient or not, but I am sure its either, what the artist puts into it or the appreciation of the product. but if those 100 people don't get it, its not going to hurt anything, I can't see anyone reacting violently to the use of the song, but this is america... I don't think art can be wasted. Go to the Metropolitan Art Museum in NYC and I bet only one out of every one hundred people there think the Rodin sculptures are art, or appreciate them as art. That doesn't make it less important in my book, by any means. Based solely on the fact they may be mindless sheep, I don't care if they like or notice the tune.
RE: [313] New music format
I also have some kind of ambient like project from Thomas Krone under the same name. Weird en strange ongoing soundscape kinda stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:34 PM Aan: tek noid; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] New music format E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: tek noid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:30 AM Subject: [313] New music format Has anyone heard of it. i think it's called ear? __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [[313] Re: Ford And Atkins]
Jeez I think this might warrant a remix?... the kona blast redux? The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but... but... wha..? I just bought the KONA Mountain Bike Edition focus ZX3 w/ rack and KONA BLAST 2001 mountain bike... damn, J. E. v.F-B. B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
I agree the Pirelli ad was cool. At the time I think it gave techno some credibility in the US mainstream. I think that's a good thing. One thing that troubles me is that I can't think of any thirty seconds of No UFOs or pretty much any techno song that does justice to the whole thing. The Pirelli track was an original composition for the commercial if I'm not mistaken. If anyone ever wanted to release my music in a commercial I would want the option to remix the track for thirty seconds (good luck, I know), or talk with them about submitting alternate thirty-second compositions. I would prefer the latter, and I'm confident I could come up with something better once I knew what it looked like, than trying to fit one of my songs to the commercial. As a TV viewer, I like the VW ad with the Stereolab track, I like good music in commercials, and in general I'm much happier with the state of advertising in the US than I was 5 years ago. It's become much more European. Much riskier. As an artist, I wouldn't want someone to hear one of my songs for the first time on TV, through a crappy little speaker, totally out of context, probably with no bass, and probably with talking on top of it. Bottom line is, it's Juan's decision - who are we to judge? If he's trying to get more involved in music for films, I'm sure this would be an excellent opportunity for him to gain exposure in Hollywood. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: fab137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:06 AM Subject: R: [313] Ford and Atkins I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? fab - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins It seems clear to me this person is trying to stir things up around here. I wouldn't give it the time of day. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins You can dis the car all you like, but why do you have to critisize a classic like No UFOs. Even if you don't like the track yourself, you must be able to appreciate what it's done for techno music... At the very least, don't call the track dead! np: No UFOs Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Simple Music/LL/Funque Droppings/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go - Original Message - From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins Ford, quite possibly some of the worst cars on the road. ford has nothing on Pontiac. Too bad they couldn't find a real futuristic track for this, but what do you expect. You get what is equalk to the car, a dead track and a dead car with no power. However it might be a fun commercial. I'll take a look. A good track would be dj dione's-darkness brightness. Now that's futurism. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] New music format
Tristan wrote: E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? i think E.A.R was the handywork of Pete Kember (aka Sonic Boom), and not Kevin Shields. oops, not all that Detroit related... never mind eh. rob ps: also non-313 - the Blue Jam cd on Warp is hilarious. insanely dark humour... buy buy buy. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
E.A.R. *is* Sonic Boom's project, but Mr. Shields has assisted him - on the first album , at least - along with Kevin Martin. I saw Sonic do a performance here in NYC a couple of years back where all he used were about six Speak - N - Spells, all hotwired to create different tones and vocal sounds, along with an effects processor. The wall of sound he created was awesome. There are photos from this performance at www.djphotos.com , if anyone's innerested. peace, Jorge Tristan wrote: E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? i think E.A.R was the handywork of Pete Kember (aka Sonic Boom), and not Kevin Shields. oops, not all that Detroit related... never mind eh. rob ps: also non-313 - the Blue Jam cd on Warp is hilarious. insanely dark humour... buy buy buy. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Maybe Ford can include a copy of the track with each car purchase? Fred That is actually a very good idea...some semi-unrecognized D.J. needs to get on that ...yesterday!! A mix with no ufo's included obviously. A lot of classic Detroit stuff ...the Rob Hood track ... this is an idea that can work to everyones benefit. If it is to late to get a mix cd with all of the Focus's sold with a cd player then take the idea to the Made In Detroit folks and have that as a part of their limited edition a cd player with ALL Detroit Techno ...made in Detroit!!! Hell I own all of the great classic and most of the new stuff I would love to get on that but I don't live and was not made in Detroit which should be the deciding factor in this campaign...anyone work for Ford readingget on it and make it happen
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
i agree with you, i could really care less what people who don't get it think, they are insignificant. and i definitely don't think that having the song in a commercial lessens the original importance' at all. the only problem i have with the whole thing is that it's being used to sell a car. if i went down to the M.A.M. in nyc and saw a Rodin sculpture with a ford sign on the frame it would piss me off no matter how many people understand it.. -Original Message- From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't really see it as a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for atkins himself, he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's not a hack job on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that the man was not compensated for the importance of his music in the first place. to me it's just another example of a big corporation jumping on something way after the fact, stomping on something beautiful like a giant baby hewy and milking it for financial gain. maybe it will expose some people to the music that will be enriched by it and go on to learning more about it but, for every one of those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could care less about the tune or anything that is good art in general and why waste good a art on sheep? i believe the people who would appreciate it would have found it eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i know? I can agree it's a shame Juan wasn't getting acclaim back in the day, but I don't think a 1 to 100 person ratio is that bad. I am not sure what determines somethings art quotient or not, but I am sure its either, what the artist puts into it or the appreciation of the product. but if those 100 people don't get it, its not going to hurt anything, I can't see anyone reacting violently to the use of the song, but this is america... I don't think art can be wasted. Go to the Metropolitan Art Museum in NYC and I bet only one out of every one hundred people there think the Rodin sculptures are art, or appreciate them as art. That doesn't make it less important in my book, by any means. Based solely on the fact they may be mindless sheep, I don't care if they like or notice the tune. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Plus 8 Classics
I hope I won't sound like someone completely stupid on this one, but... as far as I know, the Plus 8 comp exists in two formats : - double CD, through Novamute, 22 tracks - triple CD, minus 8, with more tracks and extra stuff including Oldham's comic I'd like to purchase the second, but only find the first... could anyone point me to an online record shop with it ? Thanks in advance Gwendal
info wanted!
Hi, Anyone on this list who knows a bit more on dj Rok?? I know he´s from Germany and spinning @Tresor from time to time..did a mix album on the tresor compilation 4 i believe? thanx in advance! Martijn Searchline IIC Van Breestraat 154 P.O. Box 9292 1006 AG Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)20 578 86 86 Fax: +31 (0)20 662 92 81 http://www.searchline-iic.com Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies(wich may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Searchline IIC, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient.If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
info wanted part 2
did a mix album on the tresor compilation 4 i believe? correction on my first question..it was dj jonzon who did this mix..who´s he? Martijn Searchline IIC Van Breestraat 154 P.O. Box 9292 1006 AG Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)20 578 86 86 Fax: +31 (0)20 662 92 81 http://www.searchline-iic.com Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies(wich may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from Searchline IIC, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient.If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mistress Barbra
Sorry if someone else has answered this by the time you all get this there is a recent release by Glenn Wilson that would fit that descrition also... perhaps a similar or the same sample I don't own it, but remember hearing it at the record store... It was a release on a newer label (definitely not PR). I found the words to distract too much from the music Dennis From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Mistress Barbra Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:16:16 -0800 I am looking for a track that i was told was done by Mistress Barbra. Basically it is a track with a vocal of a female dominatrix talking about what she is doing to a you and how good it feels and all that other dirty nasty stuff. you know, the kind of track that would make everyone horney. OK, maybe just Vidal. anyways i want this record and any info on it i can get. i know it had a UK release, but not what label. and i don't know if it was released in the states. thanks ahead of time. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
hmmm... so Kevin didn't spend the whole of the last decade building a studio then - he did work on some released music at some point! ;) He mixed a track on the latest Primal Scream record . It's nothing special. He also played guitar on the album and toured with them to support it. The sad thing is he seems to have become so caught up in listening to drum n' bass (read this in an interview) that he was trying to move MBV in more of a d n' b direction, most of the band members split for other pastures, and it just became a case of misguided genius. Kind of like Prince. J - SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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It's impossible to imagine a world without musicthere's so much to learn from it, how to communicate, how to touch, how to feel, how to rebel, how to listen, how to be young, how to grow up, how to grow old. We all search for answers to our complex questions and so often music has been a sanctuary or blanket offering solutions to our lives. M-Plant spreads in your mind like a rumour and teaches that the further back we look, the hotter the chemistry of life. Learn To Think For Yourself Ekko Technoir presents: 10 November 2000 23:00 The first and only performance in the Netherlands by the Minimal Nation maestro R O B E R T H O O D (M-Plant, Detroit) Steve Rachmad (M-Plant / Tresor) Zero One (Djax-Up-Beats / Technoir) Electronic Lounge - Hosted by Delsin Records: Peel Seamus, The Newworldaquarian, Aroy Dee Tickets: 25,- (ex. fee) info reservation: http://www.ekko.nl presale at: Verlaine, Utrecht / Plato, Utrecht / Rushhour, Amsterdam / Clone, Rotterdam / Triple Vision, Rotterdam / Rare Records, Eindhoven / Waaghals, Nijmegen Only 350 tickets. So be wise, be early... Ekko, Bemuurde Weerd wz 3, Utrecht NL
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Sorry for the spam, but I have a list of records for sale. Mostly old techno from 95-98. http://vurt.20m.com/records.html Thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
Don't forget that the Ford web site was using Derrick May last year in their Flash. Anyhow I'd rather have No UFO's doing its magic to promote an economy car like the Focus than say some monster Cayonero-type SUV. And the three door Focus does kinda look like a spaceship... At any rate it is hardly as ironic as other auto industry ad music choices: - The Smiths used in a commercial that had text bragging about how much leather was used in the seats (Morrissey is vegetarian). - The Minutemen used in a commercial for some car I can't remember (The irony being that D.Boon, the tune's co-author died when his tour bus crashed). mark
Re: [313] Opinions..
i also heard that sydney doesn't get that many tech acts - and that was from techione aka damc a sydney-sider It's not just Sydney-siders, it's internationals as well. It may change in time. Jeff Mills' gig in April was a sell-out on a Wednesday and one of the best nights I have ever attended! It could be that he has transcended the techno scene somehow. I think in Sydney there are cool pockets for house - the Mad Racket parties are legendary - and it has some excellent DJs, too. The techno scene in Melbourne is splintering along the neo-rave (younger, more European-influenced) and neo-Detroit (US-influenced, cross-generational, more club-based) crowd. I wonder if this has happened elsewhere? i don't know about a national mag, i always cringe when i see the word dance specially in tech related discussions our local street press seems to only devote 1 page to tech, and maybe 2 record reviews... Actually there is quite a lot of techno in Adelaide's Onion considering that it is bi-weekly? A lot more than you find comparatively in some UK publications. The magazine put out a mix-CD with exclusive (I think) cuts from HMC who it's always supported. The main thing is diversity.
Re: [313] New music format/EAR/Kevin Shields
Sonic Boom (aka Pete Kember from Spacemen3 and Spectrum) was the EAR mastermind. I believe Kevin participated in a few releases only. Millenium Music is highly recommended. And if you haven't checked out My Bloody Valentine, it is more ahead of it's time than most (if not ALL) techno IMHO and i don't think anyone will ever match it. Please reply if you think anything else (especially techno) compares to MBV E.A.R. (Expierimental Audio Research) was a strange ambient project from Kevin Shield of My Blood Valentine once upon a time. Kinda spotty stuff. Could this be related to hiim? Tristan
RE: [313] Groovetech website
I imagine it will get better eventually, but it will probably take a little while. They've been working on this version for a really long time and the launch was delayed several times. The people involved are all really smart and creative, but like most other e-projects it seems a bit understaffed and disorganized over there. Interesting factoid: the lead buyer for Groovetech is Masa Tauchi, DJ Masa who runs the minimal techno label 1200. That's why their stock is so good. Groovetech resident, J
Re: [313] New music format/EAR/Kevin Shields
And if you haven't checked out My Bloody Valentine, it is more ahead of it's time than most (if not ALL) techno IMHO and i don't think anyone will ever match it. If you mean by match it that no one will ever be able to emulate the classic MBV sound - well, what would be the point? Any attempt to emulate a wholly unique work will just look/sound silly in the long run. Being influenced is a completely different matter, though. Please reply if you think anything else (especially techno) compares to MBV What's the criteria? Timelessness? Sonic adventurousness? It could be many : Derrick May's classic work , Autechre, Brian Wilson's work up to Smiley Smile, Sun Ra, Ar Kane's 69 ? Hell, even Kid A comes close at times... --+++--- SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
later...
well guys... this is my last day at work, and since i'm subbed with my work account, i will be unsubbing until i am well ensconced in my new utah home... so i will be off the normal airwaves for about 2 1/2 weeks... for those of you who care, i can be reached at: Holly C. MacDonald-Korth 3267 E 3300 So. #314 Salt Lake City, UT 84109-2246 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (202) 270-8758 ... This is my cell that i plan to keep with a Washington number. peace, h
Re: [313] Diehard Technoheads
They are one in the same...don't cut up the tree. Fred From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Diehard Technoheads Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] New music format
I forgot to mention The Koner Experiment by EAR feat. Thomas Koner from Porter Ricks. This is also GREAT stuff. I also have some kind of ambient like project from Thomas Krone under the same name. Weird en strange ongoing soundscape kinda stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New music format/EAR/Kevin Shields
If you mean by match it that no one will ever be able to emulate the classic MBV sound - well, what would be the point? Any attempt to emulate a wholly unique work will just look/sound silly in the long run. Being influenced is a completely different matter, though. emulation does not really push music forward, but i would not complain if another band released stuff that could be mistaken for MBV cause MBV certainly aren't releasing anything and i think there is still a lot of exploration to be done in that vein. the deep chord stuff is a good example of some great music that isn't a total replica, but it does continue and expand on the original (Basic Channel) tradition. Please reply if you think anything else (especially techno) compares to MBV What's the criteria? Timelessness? Sonic adventurousness? It could be many : Derrick May's classic work , Autechre, Brian Wilson's work up to Smiley Smile, Sun Ra, Ar Kane's 69 ? Hell, even Kid A comes close at times... MBV hold a special place in my heart and no one (maybe not even MBV) can live up to the pedestal i have put them on. I should have said - Can anyone recommend some beautiful, ethereal techno in the spirit of MBV thanks kao jyan
Re: [313] Diehard Technoheads
hmmm, I don't want to do a Darw_n and overanalyse this but I don't think its right to split music into genres... I dunno if anyone remembers the global scale flame war that went on concerning what defines techno. I think pretty much everyone on this list has a pretty wide range of tastes... I know for sure that detroit is just a word that I associate with music I like. Peacefrog and Red Seal are two hugely contrasting labels but they both put out techno... Don't pick on house... I like house, okay? House is good... What did house ever do to you? bye, Nick (Dj Pacific:) ---FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are one in the same...don't cut up the tree. Fred From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Diehard Technoheads Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Plus 8
for anyone interested - Hawtin/Aquaviva video interview on NME's website. http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,8923,00.html ta rob _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
..atleast it probably wont be as europoppy or trancey as some of those oldsmobile alero commercials and some other poorly done attempts at using dance music to sell a car.. ..i also think that its cool that they are using an older track by Atkins.. even though they are advertising a new product.. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
hear where youre comin from - but i think with that sort of utopian expectation from a heartless capitalist economy - you're bound for disappointment. this is pretty standard fare, the media not giving you the time of day until you prove that people like you and youre not a huge risk for them. in the long run i think it will help spread interest and knowledge in the scene, but on the flip side, will probably be another step in media overexposure until the general public is sick of techno (or what they percieve as techno as interpreted by capitalist media). basically what happened when america ruined disco. BUT.. I have a little more faith in todays advertising industry to at least use better music to exploit (juan atkins- case in point). although the youth of today (the advertising target) may not be entirely knowledgeable in electronic music, i think they can tell the difference between a good song and a crap song. look at all the recent commercials - volkswagen, ford, and some other car place got the rights to incredible bongo band's apache. so hopefully after the media does ruin techno, the stuff that people recognize will be a step up from the village people. ps - not saying that the media overkill of techno will be a bad thing- i think the core of the techno industry will remain the same. basically a self supporting industry that doesn't have much to do with the capitalist economy at large. i think this was also the case with disco- there was still great disco after america killed it, but it was just back in the underground. -p On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, John Shipman wrote: i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't really see it as a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for atkins himself, he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's not a hack job on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that the man was not compensated for the importance of his music in the first place. to me it's just another example of a big corporation jumping on something way after the fact, stomping on something beautiful like a giant baby hewy and milking it for financial gain. maybe it will expose some people to the music that will be enriched by it and go on to learning more about it but, for every one of those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could care less about the tune or anything that is good art in general and why waste good a art on sheep? i believe the people who would appreciate it would have found it eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i know? -Original Message- From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:RE: [313] Ford and Atkins I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? i too think this is a wonderful thing. does anyone know if ford is going to state in the ad anywhere who the track is by or what the track is? I'm not sure if someone saw the ad, and liked the tune that they would know where to look to get more. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New music format
Hi. I'll second the Koner experiment (Andy Melwig also had a hand in the project I believe)- Also a fascinating album is Data Rape- (Sonic Boom's masterpiece as well.. done with the use of Speak and Spell toys)- This EAR album blew my mind! Every sound seems to crawl all over you... tumbling from within the body it forms... Man... Apparently he played at the Opera House (TO) for this tour a few years back... I would love to hear a reminiscent review if some lucky individual actually caught the show Sarah At 11:43 AM 11/9/2000 -0500, you wrote: I forgot to mention The Koner Experiment by EAR feat. Thomas Koner from Porter Ricks. This is also GREAT stuff. I also have some kind of ambient like project from Thomas Krone under the same name. Weird en strange ongoing soundscape kinda stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ .avoid clutter.appreciate techno.
Re: [313] New music format/EAR/Kevin Shields
Let me apologize for getting this thread going. It is not on-topic, and may have never been. Tristan --- Jorge Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you haven't checked out My Bloody Valentine, it is more ahead of it's time than most (if not ALL) techno IMHO and i don't think anyone will ever match it. If you mean by match it that no one will ever be able to emulate the classic MBV sound - well, what would be the point? Any attempt to emulate a wholly unique work will just look/sound silly in the long run. Being influenced is a completely different matter, though. Please reply if you think anything else (especially techno) compares to MBV What's the criteria? Timelessness? Sonic adventurousness? It could be many : Derrick May's classic work , Autechre, Brian Wilson's work up to Smiley Smile, Sun Ra, Ar Kane's 69 ? Hell, even Kid A comes close at times... --+++--- SUN RUNNERS compilation on *ism records* Out November 21. Tracks by yours truly as DUERMO, Twilight Circus, DJ Spinna, Swingsett/JWarrin and others. Check It. - _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Diehard Technoheads
I am glad I have become an descriptive term!!! ;-] darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [313] Diehard Technoheads hmmm, I don't want to do a Darw_n and overanalyse this but I don't think its right to split music into genres... I dunno if anyone remembers the global scale flame war that went on concerning what defines techno. I think pretty much everyone on this list has a pretty wide range of tastes... I know for sure that detroit is just a word that I associate with music I like. Peacefrog and Red Seal are two hugely contrasting labels but they both put out techno... Don't pick on house... I like house, okay? House is good... What did house ever do to you? bye, Nick (Dj Pacific:) ---FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are one in the same...don't cut up the tree. Fred From: styles dr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Diehard Technoheads Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Who are the die hard techno artists out there? The one's that love techno and despise house. There must be a few. I know there's still some die hards out there who never liked house. Come on speak up. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
hear where you're comin from - but i think with that sort of utopian expectation from a heartless capitalist economy - you're bound for disappointment. without a doubt your right, this is what you get in this society and it won't end anytime soon. that's one of the reasons why it so upsetting to me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system. who needs them? with the technology and communication that is at eveyones disposal, the big money has no power or at least not as much power as it had back in the day. back when jazz got sold out, disco got sold out, punk got sold out. i have too much respect for the artists now to think that this will happen to them. they have learned from these lessons! the underground will remain, temporary autonomous zone. never dies, just constantly morphs to fight against evil -Original Message- From: Peter B Leidy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 1:10 PM To: John Shipman Cc: 'Topping, Micah'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins hear where youre comin from - but i think with that sort of utopian expectation from a heartless capitalist economy - you're bound for disappointment. this is pretty standard fare, the media not giving you the time of day until you prove that people like you and youre not a huge risk for them. in the long run i think it will help spread interest and knowledge in the scene, but on the flip side, will probably be another step in media overexposure until the general public is sick of techno (or what they percieve as techno as interpreted by capitalist media). basically what happened when america ruined disco. BUT.. I have a little more faith in todays advertising industry to at least use better music to exploit (juan atkins- case in point). although the youth of today (the advertising target) may not be entirely knowledgeable in electronic music, i think they can tell the difference between a good song and a crap song. look at all the recent commercials - volkswagen, ford, and some other car place got the rights to incredible bongo band's apache. so hopefully after the media does ruin techno, the stuff that people recognize will be a step up from the village people. ps - not saying that the media overkill of techno will be a bad thing- i think the core of the techno industry will remain the same. basically a self supporting industry that doesn't have much to do with the capitalist economy at large. i think this was also the case with disco- there was still great disco after america killed it, but it was just back in the underground. -p On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, John Shipman wrote: i'm having a hard time swallowing this i guess, just can't really see it as a good thing. don't get me wrong i think it's wonderful for atkins himself, he deserves everything he gets and from what i've heard it's not a hack job on the tune but, at the same time it's a horrible shame that the man was not compensated for the importance of his music in the first place. to me it's just another example of a big corporation jumping on something way after the fact, stomping on something beautiful like a giant baby hewy and milking it for financial gain. maybe it will expose some people to the music that will be enriched by it and go on to learning more about it but, for every one of those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could care less about the tune or anything that is good art in general and why waste good a art on sheep? i believe the people who would appreciate it would have found it eventually anyway without the help of ford motor company. but what do i know? -Original Message- From: Topping, Micah [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:04 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins I can't believe that there is actually a troll on this list! :-)) Personally I think its a good thing that Ford decided to use such a track for one of their ads. Like the Pirelli ad with a track by Aphex. It kinda helps to spread the *word* no? i too think this is a wonderful thing. does anyone know if ford is going to state in the ad anywhere who the track is by or what the track is? I'm not sure if someone saw the ad, and liked the tune that they would know where to look to get more. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins]
i don't think it is related in any way other then the fact the music is finally getting respect in the city where it was created. and i think what makes both completely related is DEMF. the city let something big like that get pulled off and now the rest of Detroit is taking notice. Thank goodness. just as long as radio doesn't overplay everything and completely ruin it like it has in the past... jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 6:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins] Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May 'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they actually have a bio as well. Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to 'dj' their Detroit auto show 2000 In which the new Hummer concept was brought out while Jaugar was playing. Much to the enjoyment of the UK/Euro press and leaving the locals not knowing whats going on [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system. who needs them? with the technology and communication that is at eveyones disposal, the big money has no power or at least not as much power as it had a lot of people can rationalize actions for money - i dont see juans track in the ford commercial as selling out per se, but as more and more people take similar deals, i'm sure a bit of the scene will cross-over into mainstream culture. its hard to maintain a scene like this entirely independant of the capitalist mainstream at large when youre still living in that capitalist society. I dont want to be rich and famous, but I'd at least like a reliable car, a decent pad, and some nice furniture, and i know i'm not gonna get that from djing for free or selling 500 records. thats why i have a day job. but for those that dedicate their entire life to the scene- you either have to be willing to sacrifice a helluva lot (i remember TP mentioning living in his car for a year or something), or be willing to take the occasional deal from the mainstream industry. i think the people at the heart of this scene are aware and discerning enough that these sorts of decisions to be made will be made in the interest of keeping the scene self-supported. it seems that most people either have day jobs- or are very hard workers, and only give in to mainstream publicity on fairly rare occurances. hooray for techno :) ps- i know my views are very slanted to american culture- i've never even been to europe- and theres a whole new can o' worms as mainstream and dance culture are already intertwined over there, but i'm sure theres still the 'real' underground that will stay true to itself w/in any society thats heavily reliant on capitalism.. pps- sorry to those getting sick of this thread - but this is something i think about a lot - the whole mainstream/underground dichotomy and how it works - how they can get the most out of each other w/out the uncontrolable mainstream crushing the fragile underground scene. its a rather complex matter and inevitably controls the much of the future for the scene's existence as we know it. and i dont even make/sell records (yet), i'm sure all you producers/store-owners/etc. are thinking about this a lot more than i am (or at least you should be). p
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RE: [313] Ford and Atkins
agreednice pointsthis kind of reminds me of this quote from stewart walker that i think hits the nail right on the head. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm generationally stuck between the baby-boomers and the N-sync having Gen-Y teens who have all the marketing power and attention, and everybody my age basically just smokes weed and works an IT job, and William Burroughs and Timothy Leary are dead, and nobody is really qualified to be the countercultural visionary for the next 20 years. -Original Message- From: Peter B Leidy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:36 PM To: John Shipman Cc: 'Topping, Micah'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Ford and Atkins me in the first place. i've always thought of the people involved in the music to be intelligent enough to circumvent this whole entire system. who needs them? with the technology and communication that is at eveyones disposal, the big money has no power or at least not as much power as it had a lot of people can rationalize actions for money - i dont see juans track in the ford commercial as selling out per se, but as more and more people take similar deals, i'm sure a bit of the scene will cross-over into mainstream culture. its hard to maintain a scene like this entirely independant of the capitalist mainstream at large when youre still living in that capitalist society. I dont want to be rich and famous, but I'd at least like a reliable car, a decent pad, and some nice furniture, and i know i'm not gonna get that from djing for free or selling 500 records. thats why i have a day job. but for those that dedicate their entire life to the scene- you either have to be willing to sacrifice a helluva lot (i remember TP mentioning living in his car for a year or something), or be willing to take the occasional deal from the mainstream industry. i think the people at the heart of this scene are aware and discerning enough that these sorts of decisions to be made will be made in the interest of keeping the scene self-supported. it seems that most people either have day jobs- or are very hard workers, and only give in to mainstream publicity on fairly rare occurances. hooray for techno :) ps- i know my views are very slanted to american culture- i've never even been to europe- and theres a whole new can o' worms as mainstream and dance culture are already intertwined over there, but i'm sure theres still the 'real' underground that will stay true to itself w/in any society thats heavily reliant on capitalism.. pps- sorry to those getting sick of this thread - but this is something i think about a lot - the whole mainstream/underground dichotomy and how it works - how they can get the most out of each other w/out the uncontrolable mainstream crushing the fragile underground scene. its a rather complex matter and inevitably controls the much of the future for the scene's existence as we know it. and i dont even make/sell records (yet), i'm sure all you producers/store-owners/etc. are thinking about this a lot more than i am (or at least you should be). p
That Pirelli ad track (was: Re: Ford and Atkins)
Phonopsia wrote: I agree the Pirelli ad was cool. At the time I think it gave Techno some credibility in the US mainstream. I think that's a good thing. One thing that troubles me is that I can't think of any thirty seconds of No UFOs or pretty much any techno song that does justice to the whole thing. The Pirelli track was an original composition for the commercial if I'm not mistaken. Newp. It was taken from the Caustic Window (a.k.a. Aphex Twin) Joyrex J9ii 12 and it reappears on the Caustic Window compilation CD (RePHLeX CAT 009 CD), which is something I hope everyone on this list owns, since it contains some of the most brutal, mind-blowing, life-changing Techno music ever released by mankind. The track name is The Garden Of Linmiri. - Greg (Who can't understand how anyone could object to wider exposure for amazing tracks like No UFOs)
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
hey, now, race shouldn't play a part in this... i think the real answer to that question is that Moby's music is the most accessible in comparison to others. Bodyrock will appeal to a lot more people than, say, Strings of Life or something like that. granted, Strings of Life is a million times better, but popular appeal is more important to them than true quality. From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:55:50 GMT Whyever would they choose a black musical innovator when there always a white imitator like Moby?? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 21:34:57 -0500 on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
kinda symbolic, i think. symbolizes that techno is so far ahead of its time... take care, Mike From: lil' robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Ford and Atkins Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:06:52 EST ..atleast it probably wont be as europoppy or trancey as some of those oldsmobile alero commercials and some other poorly done attempts at using dance music to sell a car.. ..i also think that its cool that they are using an older track by Atkins.. even though they are advertising a new product.. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
It shouldn't, but unfortunately it does. That is just the bleak reality of the situation. hey, now, race shouldn't play a part in this...
Re: [313] That Pirelli ad track (was: Re: Ford and Atkins)
- Greg (Who can't understand how anyone could object to wider exposure for amazing tracks like No UFOs) I like the Beach Boys, when I hear Good Vibrations I think of Orange Crush. I like David Bowie, when I hear Heroes I think of Microsoft. I like Galaxie 500, when I hear Instrumental I think of Japanese cars. I like the Stooges, when I hear Search and Destroy I think of Nike Air. I don't want to be hear Strings of Life and have a mental image of that horrible little pepsi girl dancing at the club with Albert Einstein. :) take care, Mike
RE: [313] That Pirelli ad track (was: Re: Ford and Atkins)
greg, i think wider exposure good / wider exposure with ford logo bad. just my opinion -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 4:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] That Pirelli ad track (was: Re: Ford and Atkins) Phonopsia wrote: I agree the Pirelli ad was cool. At the time I think it gave Techno some credibility in the US mainstream. I think that's a good thing. One thing that troubles me is that I can't think of any thirty seconds of No UFOs or pretty much any techno song that does justice to the whole thing. The Pirelli track was an original composition for the commercial if I'm not mistaken. Newp. It was taken from the Caustic Window (a.k.a. Aphex Twin) Joyrex J9ii 12 and it reappears on the Caustic Window compilation CD (RePHLeX CAT 009 CD), which is something I hope everyone on this list owns, since it contains some of the most brutal, mind-blowing, life-changing Techno music ever released by mankind. The track name is The Garden Of Linmiri. - Greg (Who can't understand how anyone could object to wider exposure for amazing tracks like No UFOs) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins]
it might be a blessing in disguise, if current techno/house gets played out. we might see a whole new bunch of underground styles from the true innovators if techno gets flooded with a bunch of media hyupe. Mike From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins] Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:20:22 -0800 i don't think it is related in any way other then the fact the music is finally getting respect in the city where it was created. and i think what makes both completely related is DEMF. the city let something big like that get pulled off and now the rest of Detroit is taking notice. Thank goodness. just as long as radio doesn't overplay everything and completely ruin it like it has in the past... jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 6:29 AM To:313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: [Re: [313] Ford and Atkins] Actually , I do recall reading in the News that Derrick May 'scored' sound track stuff for the Ford website and they actually have a bio as well. Would this be related to Genral Motors booking Dj Bone to 'dj' their Detroit auto show 2000 In which the new Hummer concept was brought out while Jaugar was playing. Much to the enjoyment of the UK/Euro press and leaving the locals not knowing whats going on [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/8/00 8:52 PM, Lester Kenyatta Spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a sidenote, I'm really suprised that May, Atkins, etc. haven't done more commercial stuff. As in stuff for commercials. Movie soundtracks too Same old, same old. It took Moby licensing all the tracks on Play for advertisers like Ford to decide there might be something behind this instrumental. technical, music... . Then the gates were open for jwt's hipster writers and AD's to propose some old school. Good for them. Too bad it took over 10 years. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
To my knowledge, most Planet E 12s are not distributed outside the US, but some European labels are stable enough to do this. They are quite well distributed through Siren in Australia who have tried to raise its profile and done very well - I wish other labels were this well distributed. The market is small yet growing. A night with Common Factor and Recloose sold out in advance on Tuesday night in Melb and the guys are playing again this weekend, so that says something of its profile. In the US it's quite political distributing records - there is so much politics and expense involved. The chain stores make all kinds of demands of labels - it's probably endemic throughout the world to an extent. This is why small retailers are so important, they just need to get over their elitist attitudes which put off girls and non-DJs and new listeners.
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