Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
now i fully agree with this it seems like the majority of the discussions are about the latest ugly edit or moodyman track and why it is ok or not ok to bootleg it or pay 20 pounds/dollars for it or just stupid off topic rants that have nothing to do with 313..meanwhile a good amount of techno is released and goes unnoticed for about 2 weeks untill someone finally brings its up. now there is nothing wrong with theo and kdj record discussions i love these guys and we support the 3 chairs here in portland...but i myself have seen basically the same thread over and over conserning these guys..but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track...see in MY OPINION it seems like alot of people just want to collect cool 313 records and let the list know they own them..its almost like a cool contest or something you cant be taken serious unless you have ugly edits 1-7 and kdj # whateverand don't you dare comment on someone unless you have these special limited tracks..yea some on this list know more than others, but who careslets try to include THE WHOLE LIST not just the ones who have accsess to the limited cool guy records ..i just would like to talk about 313 techno/ or 313 techno related stuff more often instead of the price of a beer in manchester or what stupid english slang words mean...or how anyone who talks over there records need to be poked in the eye, all of it is just plain stupidity.. my 2 dollars worth.a penny dont get you [EMAIL PROTECTED] anymore michael www.renegaderhythms.com On 9-dec-04, at 15:47, robin wrote: in terms of detroit releases i think there's been a shift in detroits output from techno to house in recent years. Agreed but.. i'd be happy to discuss dj bone or gary martin or any other of the more 'electric' releases coming from the d tho. both of whom have had some great releases this year. just had a thought: maybe the fact that UR have gone off the boil in some peoples eyes (mine one of em) has left 313 techno with a slight lack of focus? Well i still love most of the UR releases :) but besides that. There has been enough detroit techno, only no one hardly mentions it on this list. People keep on discussing house no one hardly ever mention Puzzlebox releases here or Tunnel 7 or that new label Plan A etc. There is still a lot of good techno coming out lately. Almost no one mentioned the new 154 album on delsin, or stuff on headspace, emoticon, 100% pure (yes back in business). just a thought to...
Re: (313) top ten
here is mine dj bone longevity 1 and 2 los hermanos my mothers guitarra juan atkins rebound and fast forward memory foundation doenerpardies ur windchime kenny larkin narcissist dark comedy my sol orlando voorn rereleases jackmate basline for jose (superyou mix) los hermanos resurection
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I think UR is on point- Windchime was incredible. Orlando Voorn is on a roll. I like the way electro funk is going, and UR is releasing another Aquanauts. On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 08:47 AM, robin wrote: ust had a thought: maybe the fact that UR have gone off the boil in some peoples eyes (mine one of em) has left 313 techno with a slight lack of focus? robin...
Re: (313) Good records with stupid social commentary about the state of house music or whatever on.
At 05:08 AM 12/9/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm going for the worlds longest topic title. Will I win? However Had a couple of records lately that sounded pretty cool, except for some wally chatting rubbish over the top. Example: Blake Baxter Abe Duque What Happened : Well, I dont know, but I dont want to hear your thoughts on it on some club record, thanks. Get a webpage and tell us or something. I generally like commentary on records when it feels like a perspective from somewhere who was around teaching history. For me, What Happened falls into this category. There are some records where it feels like an overplayed gimmick like Blaze's 'Do You Remember House', which I find obnoxious, forced and boringly elitist. Blaze rock otherwise.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
-- Original Message -- From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] meanwhile a good amount of techno is released and goes unnoticed for about 2 weeks untill someone finally brings its up. but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track... here's a revolutionary thought (and im not trying to be a prick by suggesting it): why not mention/review these records yourself? i dont mention every single record i get on this list, just the ones that i feel need to be discussed. so you should start threads about the records YOU think need to be discussed. and so should everyone else who feels their strain of 313 related music is under represented in discussion. its just that simple. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Friday treat for the balearic heads
I'm really digging these mixes.harvey/black c#ck bootleg mixes seem so hard to come by..does anyone know where some other harvey mixes subside? Ta Rc on 12/11/04 9:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Sorry about that last post, it was supposed to be a private one OK, on with the post: One of my favourite mixes of the year came from this site, and it was Harvey, live in San Diego. Beautiful trippy downtempo s**t. Really blissed out. Just a cd that always put me in a good mood. Today there's a new one! So, I'm happy. If it's even half as good as the last one, I recommend it. You can grab it here: www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_1/Harvey_101604.mp3 www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_2/Harvey_101604_Part_2.mp3 And, also, I think I have Harvey to thank for really getting me into the latest Kraftwerk LP. I got the LP when it came out, listened a few times and didn't pick it up again. But, that last Harvey mix from San Diego had the track Vitamin, and I've hardly stopped listening to it, so I went back to the LP and found it a whole different experience. That track Vitamin is definitely in my techno top 5 for this year. It's awesome. The production, the little subtle melodies. It's the bomb. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Friday treat for the balearic heads
He's playing here in San Francisco on Saturday. He's got a monthly called Discotronic at an art gallery. If I go I'll ask him about mixes online. At 09:39 PM 12/9/2004, Rc wrote: I'm really digging these mixes.harvey/black c#ck bootleg mixes seem so hard to come by..does anyone know where some other harvey mixes subside? Ta Rc on 12/11/04 9:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Sorry about that last post, it was supposed to be a private one OK, on with the post: One of my favourite mixes of the year came from this site, and it was Harvey, live in San Diego. Beautiful trippy downtempo s**t. Really blissed out. Just a cd that always put me in a good mood. Today there's a new one! So, I'm happy. If it's even half as good as the last one, I recommend it. You can grab it here: www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_1/Harvey_101604.mp3 www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_2/Harvey_101604_Part_2.mp3 And, also, I think I have Harvey to thank for really getting me into the latest Kraftwerk LP. I got the LP when it came out, listened a few times and didn't pick it up again. But, that last Harvey mix from San Diego had the track Vitamin, and I've hardly stopped listening to it, so I went back to the LP and found it a whole different experience. That track Vitamin is definitely in my techno top 5 for this year. It's awesome. The production, the little subtle melodies. It's the bomb. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) top ten
the $tinkworx album was on a different label .. :-) -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) top ten Oh well now that everyone is dropping lists here: 5 that never left my iPod albums: Like A Tim Gina V. D'Orio - Bassgirl (Like/Dub) Octave One - The Theory Of Everything (430 West) Optic Nerve - Metal Images (Puzzlebox) $tinkworx - Ain't-Chit History (Nature) Raiders of the lost Arp - Raiders of the lost Arp (Natutr) 5 pretty good twelves: Timeline - Return of the dragon (UR) Tank - Bark before you bite (Ignitor) Alden Tyrell - Disco Lunar Module (Clone) Jimmy Edgar - Bounce, Make, Model (Warp) Ultradyne - Privelige of sacrifice (Pi gao movement)
Re: (313) Good records with stupid social commentary about the state of house music or whatever on.
i liked this twelve as well how is the album? -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: RE: (313) Good records with stupid social commentary about the state of house music or whatever on. No :-) I like that ade duque record -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2004 13:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Good records with stupid social commentary about the state of house music or whatever on. Hi I'm going for the worlds longest topic title. Will I win? However Had a couple of records lately that sounded pretty cool, except for some wally chatting rubbish over the top. Example: Blake Baxter Abe Duque What Happened : Well, I dont know, but I dont want to hear your thoughts on it on some club record, thanks. Get a webpage and tell us or something. Kerri Chandler Back To The Raw. Nice fingers bassline, raw house track, duly ruined by Kerri giving it the big one What happened to house music that was raw dark and hard blah blah blah etc. Dunno mate, but for starters you've been playing wally style bongo house for a while, so why dont you work it out. DJ Deep saves us on this occasion with his edit, by getting rid of the spoken word vox and leaving the raw, good house track as it should be. This track is RECOMMENDED btw! Check piccadilly for clips. Can I put forward the motion that any one chatting over their records should receive a poke in the eye? Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
Come on guys, t'is the season to be jolly and all that... Martin On 10 Dec 2004, at 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track.. I've never heard of tunnel 7. any chance of a heads up from someone? (you know, instead of being sat there picking your nose lurking about) Mike - any chance? Thanks _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
Come on guys, t'is the season to be jolly and all that... bollocks to that. take a moan, do something about it or shut up I say. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I picked up a Tunnel 7 release, I thought there had only been one but it seems from discogs there have been 3. I got #2 which is by S2, Dex and Ray 7 - from memory, and its a while since I picked it up its 3 pretty decent techno/electro cuts. http://www.discogs.com/label/Tunnel+7 Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track.. I've never heard of tunnel 7. any chance of a heads up from someone? (you know, instead of being sat there picking your nose lurking about) Mike - any chance? Thanks _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) top ten list
10 out of my many favourite tunes this year Some of these are only new to me of course. Umod - Still Afraid Madvillain - All Caps Kenny Larkin - My Reflection Juan Atkins - Spin Juan Atkins - Track 10 (Kirk DeGiorgio Re-Edit) Norma Jean Bell - Mystery Porks Watch - Million Toes Ronnie Dyson - It's All Over Your Face A Guy Called Gerald - First Try Jackson - Utopia At 2:52 am -0600 7/12/04, jason kenjar wrote: hey list, It would be cool if everyone posted their top ten favorites this time around. I dont remember too many people posting last year. Its a very helpful post because it challenges you to take a good look at what you have. It would be very educational. -j
(313) Re:(313) top ten
a random ten of new stuff from 04 (ask me tomorrow and i'll give ya a different list :) ) juan atkins - ffwd ep - new religion jersey devil social club - italo bassline - environ max berlin - elle et moi (joakim mix) (in fact all joakim stuff just kills it) beanfield - tides - c's movement #1 - compost roko dragonbreath - jumpin 2 conclusions ep - black label gary martin - serious business - teknotika aardvark - cult copy pt2 - rush hour freak7 vs. critical phase - voice of phase rmxs (maurice's mix) - new religion directions - busted trees - c's spacetramental - diaspora osborne - bout ready to jak (shake mix) - ghostly lp 5 rick wade - dark ascension - music is... 3 chairs lp chicago boogie - eskimo/rush hour bell - seven types of six - soul jazz unclassics cd (ok ok not strictly 'new'/04) - environ
Re: (313) top ten
On 10-dec-04, at 10:34, Marsel // Nomorewords.net wrote: the $tinkworx album was on a different label .. :-) $tinkworx - Ain't-Chit History (Nature) Doh! Delsin KJ!, The $tinkworks album is on Delsin, Delsin i tell you! The excellent $tinkworks album is on that Delsin label thing..
RE: (313) Re:(313) top ten
gary martin - serious business - teknotika I wish I had put this in my list because its defo one of the best 12 of the year, I've been playing it loads. The track serious business sounds well mill's tho. But I like that. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2004 10:26 To: 313 Org Subject: (313) Re:(313) top ten a random ten of new stuff from 04 (ask me tomorrow and i'll give ya a different list :) ) juan atkins - ffwd ep - new religion jersey devil social club - italo bassline - environ max berlin - elle et moi (joakim mix) (in fact all joakim stuff just kills it) beanfield - tides - c's movement #1 - compost roko dragonbreath - jumpin 2 conclusions ep - black label gary martin - serious business - teknotika aardvark - cult copy pt2 - rush hour freak7 vs. critical phase - voice of phase rmxs (maurice's mix) - new religion directions - busted trees - c's spacetramental - diaspora osborne - bout ready to jak (shake mix) - ghostly lp 5 rick wade - dark ascension - music is... 3 chairs lp chicago boogie - eskimo/rush hour bell - seven types of six - soul jazz unclassics cd (ok ok not strictly 'new'/04) - environ
(313) Tunnel 7
The new Tunnel 7 from The Tek Brothers is also worth checking out. Tunnel 7 is run by Raphael Merriweathers aka Ray 7 aka M.I.A. Check out this interview at the NI-site, for the gear-heads among us: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=3370ftu=06219c5f7f KJ On 10-dec-04, at 11:10, David Beattie wrote: I picked up a Tunnel 7 release, I thought there had only been one but it seems from discogs there have been 3. I got #2 which is by S2, Dex and Ray 7 - from memory, and its a while since I picked it up its 3 pretty decent techno/electro cuts. http://www.discogs.com/label/Tunnel+7 Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track.. I've never heard of tunnel 7. any chance of a heads up from someone? (you know, instead of being sat there picking your nose lurking about) Mike - any chance? Thanks _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) RE: (Interim) top ten
I haven't got my 04 list together yet but I've caught the list bug, so here's what's on my minidisk today - for those who're as bored as I am! Ricardo Villalobos - The Contempt (Tripping Tools mix) - Playhouse Classics Ultradyne - Cities in Retro EP: Untitled (B2) - Black Label Ultradyne - The Privilege of Sacrifice - Pi GAO Movement Thomas Brinkmann - Max Ernst 13: Wait a Minute - Max Ernst Rob Hood - Untitled 5 - A2 - M-Plant Yunx - Snake In The Grass: The Doll Maker - AI Model 500 - Outer Space - Metroplex Model 500 The Martian - Search Your Feelings - Red Planet Life after Mutation - Toxic TV - Clone Der Zyklus II - Mxyzptik - Gigolo Dopplereffekt - Scientist (Video Version) - Gigolo k
Re: (313) Accelerator
Hi Ken, I know this label because I have a release to come on it, their first release is excellent and the second to come is too very Detroit influenced. The label boss is a big Detroit fan ! And it's nice to have a label like this one in france. A radio stream is available too on the Accelerator website. You ll need the player, that's all. Oh, and I ask you all : if you have mixes to stream or want to be resident dj on this radio, contact me because I'm invested in developpement of this project and we're actually in search of nice dj's. Some 'configurations' are needed to stream live. I wish you all a very nice weekend. Peace -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
(313) harvey mixes
been asked to forward this on (was it richard who asked for it?) r this guy was asking about harvey mixes.. I've deleted his mail and I cant post it to the list, any chance you could forward for me? http://www.djhistorymix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1772 theres a few links within this thread I think.
(313) soundtracks/melancholia/top ten
soundtracks: do not know if this has been mentioned already, but the score for stone's alexander is by vangelis and it has been getting great reviews (well, film magazine empire praised it), unlike the film. melancholia: lackluster's album 'container' (defocus) always does it for me, especially the track 'starcell uk' which is on the cd version. top ten (in no particular order and all fecking well-known i should think, no obscure gems): 1 dez williams 'hex abuse' ai records 2 claro intellecto 'section' ai records 3 various 'terminal 1' narita (for aii's 'interstate') 4 soloaction 'red planet express' soloaction records 5 shed 'soloaction ep' delsin 6 sterac electronics 'atlantis ep' interpersonal xp 7 raiders of the lost arp '4' (2x12) nature records 8 shawn rudiman '7 speed derailleurs' neuton 9 iridite productions 'the acceptable face Of elitist techno' down low music 10 lands//. 'antitainment' EP varial thanks, aidan
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
Alex I was not really refering to you when taking about cool guy records or anyone in particular but hey if the shoe fits wear it..i was GENERALLY talking about the list discussions overall.i am just pointing out something that happens over and over (as in kdj threads).it just seems like many things get talked about repeatedly.i just figured people would catch on and kinda be like hey we have already covered this like 50 times lets move on.. the things i WAS refering to you about were some of the dumb ass threads you start (in my opinion)not all of them are dumb , but some are VERY off topic.and i am not saying it is just you, but since you seem to have a problem with me and the things i post, than i will direct this at you i guessi aint saying you cant post whatever you want but manif your bored at work please keep from junking up my mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. half of the time i post its just my thoughts or opinions on whatever it is we are talking abouti am not trying to be the correct one or the 313 leader... just sharing my thoughts which is what i thought this list is about so unless i say something directly to you alex than quit jumping down my throat any time i say something. and if your wondering why it is i lurk most of the time and don't participate well this should be a good indication as to why.attitude all over this listand yea including mine i am not moaning at all, just pointing out a few things...sorry if you don't like italex michael www.renegaderhythms.com Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...is because those who wanna talk about music don't do.
sorry to say so, but this is just somehow boring... this is the du bist ein arschloch-thread #3039 this year so far... talking about music, detroit music: grabbed a copy of omar s - day/night (aos 004), ace record, this guy is hot! the tune just fits perfectly with meikbar - my back (stunning 12 as already mentioned)... oh, and the new moxies are quite good! does anyone know if it's once again c2 on the re-edit? c. Renegade808 wrote: Alex I was not really refering to you when taking about cool guy records or anyone in particular but hey if the shoe fits wear it..i was GENERALLY talking about the list discussions overall.i am just pointing out something that happens over and over (as in kdj threads).it just seems like many things get talked about repeatedly.i just figured people would catch on and kinda be like hey we have already covered this like 50 times lets move on.. the things i WAS refering to you about were some of the dumb ass threads you start (in my opinion)not all of them are dumb , but some are VERY off topic.and i am not saying it is just you, but since you seem to have a problem with me and the things i post, than i will direct this at you i guessi aint saying you cant post whatever you want but manif your bored at work please keep from junking up my mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. half of the time i post its just my thoughts or opinions on whatever it is we are talking abouti am not trying to be the correct one or the 313 leader... just sharing my thoughts which is what i thought this list is about so unless i say something directly to you alex than quit jumping down my throat any time i say something. and if your wondering why it is i lurk most of the time and don't participate well this should be a good indication as to why.attitude all over this listand yea including mine i am not moaning at all, just pointing out a few things...sorry if you don't like italex michael www.renegaderhythms.com Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. --- avast! Antivirus: Eingehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 0450-1, 09.12.2004 Getestet um: 10.12.2004 13:54:29 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...is because those who wanna talk about music don't do.
talking about music, detroit music: grabbed a copy of omar s - day/night (aos 004), ace record, this guy is hot! the tune just fits perfectly with meikbar - my back (stunning 12 as already mentioned)... oh, and the new moxies are quite good! does anyone know if it's once again c2 on the re-edit? fairly sure these new ones are mr. moxie on the edits robin...
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
On 10 Dec 2004, at 10:20, Paul Kendrick wrote: gary martin - serious business - teknotika I wish I had put this in my list because its defo one of the best 12 of the year, I've been playing it loads. The track serious business sounds well mill's tho. But I like that. ghetto chic (both mixes) are the tracks on the 12 that really get me. brilliant, i love that mid-tempo style rather than the tribal techno stuff he does. robin...
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I don't think that a discussion about whether vocals add to or detract from a house/techno track is a brilliant example of something that's phenomenally off-topic. Especially when it's specifically referring to What Happened?, which is undeniably a 313 track. The thing here is that everyone has an idea in their heads of what they'd ideally like to see discussed on 313, and these ideas differ from person to person. Everyone, I'm sure, has a few minor gripes (I'm not a huge fan of the ongoing KDJ/Theo discussions either) but probably thinks they're the only one who does. And every now and again these gripes spill out into a bit of a moan, in which some people will point the finger at other subscribers while other people will look for more exogenuous reasons for the problem (such as Tosh's question about the amount of 313 techno that's actually being released these days). Ultimately, the only statement I'd agree with absolutely is, if there are things you'd like to see discussed more often on 313, then start discussions about them. Brendan -Original Message- From: Renegade808 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2004 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... Alex I was not really refering to you when taking about cool guy records or anyone in particular but hey if the shoe fits wear it..i was GENERALLY talking about the list discussions overall.i am just pointing out something that happens over and over (as in kdj threads).it just seems like many things get talked about repeatedly.i just figured people would catch on and kinda be like hey we have already covered this like 50 times lets move on.. the things i WAS refering to you about were some of the dumb ass threads you start (in my opinion)not all of them are dumb , but some are VERY off topic.and i am not saying it is just you, but since you seem to have a problem with me and the things i post, than i will direct this at you i guessi aint saying you cant post whatever you want but manif your bored at work please keep from junking up my mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. half of the time i post its just my thoughts or opinions on whatever it is we are talking abouti am not trying to be the correct one or the 313 leader... just sharing my thoughts which is what i thought this list is about so unless i say something directly to you alex than quit jumping down my throat any time i say something. and if your wondering why it is i lurk most of the time and don't participate well this should be a good indication as to why.attitude all over this listand yea including mine i am not moaning at all, just pointing out a few things...sorry if you don't like italex michael www.renegaderhythms.com Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. Hey, I happened to find that post pretty useful and on topic. Put me onto a couple of tracks that I might not have stubled across otherwise. And that's why I'm sub'ed to this list. It was also done with a bit of humour and had a different slant on it so chill out. I think if anything this lists lacks is people with a sense of humour. As soon as someone makes any sort of joke or sarky comment, they get their heads bitten off! I think most of the off topic conversations on this list stem from people moaning about the OT messages. This list stays pretty much on-topic, especially compared to some of the other lists I sub to. Almost all threads are about music, which of course sometimes touch on other things in life but this just stops things from getting flat and 2dimensional. This list has been full of people moaning about Otness for ages. I remember when people were moaning about links to mixes or tracks they did as being OT. The current lack of content, if anything, could be put down everything being seen as OT.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
On 10-dec-04, at 14:48, Brendan Nelson wrote: Ultimately, the only statement I'd agree with absolutely is, if there are things you'd like to see discussed more often on 313, then start discussions about them. Well the problem is that when you try to start a threat about a techno record people ignore it. The reason that this list is so off-topic sometimes is not that there seems to more detroit house then techno, the subscribers are more into house then to techno. Which is fine be me but if you are not looking for good techno you probably won't find it. I have to admit that these ongoing discussions about the latest KDJ re-re-re-re-re-release or that Theo Parrish cut-up is really boring, actually it is one of the reasons why i am on and off this list. A couple of years ago the most reoccurring discussions on here were a) Jeff Mills is not God, b) Who is Drexciya and c) What is Red Planet. Lately this has become a) Have you heard the latest KDJ b) have you heard the latest Theo Parrish c) Who the hell can Alex Bond post so much. And yeah some people do mention new techno records here but if no one responds to that people stop mentioning them because they think this lists doesn't care about that. KJ --- http://technotourist.org
(313) James Brown
james brown has prostate cancer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4085565.stm off topic i suppose but i hope the treatment works out ok. robin...
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I think Tosh is an instigator. A catalyst for watching people stir...including this list. Hmmm...I haven't read one post about the reason posts are off topic. We need a break every once in a while...otherwise this list would be incredibly boring and we would be as well. d --- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] meanwhile a good amount of techno is released and goes unnoticed for about 2 weeks untill someone finally brings its up. but man i dont know the last time someone did a review/opinion of a tunnel 7 track... here's a revolutionary thought (and im not trying to be a prick by suggesting it): why not mention/review these records yourself? i dont mention every single record i get on this list, just the ones that i feel need to be discussed. so you should start threads about the records YOU think need to be discussed. and so should everyone else who feels their strain of 313 related music is under represented in discussion. its just that simple. tom andythepooh.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
although i try to keepoaway from the drama that routinely fires up on the list, i feel i have to add to this one and agree with kj about this off-topic business the main reason why i never feel compelled to post is because, like kj said, most posts about techno (or whatever isn't everyones flavour of the month) tend to get ignored, and often interesting posts just get warped into some sort of list-inside-joke. and yes, an awful lot of house does get discussed here... having said that i would like to say that some of my favourite records of this year are (with little comments so as to make this list more informative): 154 - strike: besides the fact that i love every single thing this guy has released, this is just a timeless classic, the music is simply beautiful sleeparchive - elephant island ep: ice cold bleep minimalism, like a cross between sahko and plastikman aroy dee - glow: beautiful music that treads the fine line between house and techno. side b is a superb abstract techno monster. jeff mills - those 3 7: more bleeping nighttime techno. i am really enjoying mill's latest releases; i am re-discovering mills... luciano and serafin - funk excursion: side a only - great long and upbuilding, hipnotic, midtempo fab. citymorb music www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps: please excuse the hardwax catalogue-like vernacular ;P - Original Message - From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... On 10-dec-04, at 14:48, Brendan Nelson wrote: Ultimately, the only statement I'd agree with absolutely is, if there are things you'd like to see discussed more often on 313, then start discussions about them. Well the problem is that when you try to start a threat about a techno record people ignore it. The reason that this list is so off-topic sometimes is not that there seems to more detroit house then techno, the subscribers are more into house then to techno. Which is fine be me but if you are not looking for good techno you probably won't find it. I have to admit that these ongoing discussions about the latest KDJ re-re-re-re-re-release or that Theo Parrish cut-up is really boring, actually it is one of the reasons why i am on and off this list. A couple of years ago the most reoccurring discussions on here were a) Jeff Mills is not God, b) Who is Drexciya and c) What is Red Planet. Lately this has become a) Have you heard the latest KDJ b) have you heard the latest Theo Parrish c) Who the hell can Alex Bond post so much. And yeah some people do mention new techno records here but if no one responds to that people stop mentioning them because they think this lists doesn't care about that. KJ --- http://technotourist.org
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
-- Original Message -- From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i aint saying you cant post whatever you want but manif your bored at work please keep from junking up my mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. just sharing my thoughts which is what i thought this list is about so unless i say something directly to you alex than quit jumping down my throat any time i say something. and if your wondering why it is i lurk most of the time and don't participate well this should be a good indication as to why.attitude all over this listand yea including mine i dont have any problems with alex so i cant exactly relate, but i have had numerous head buttings with multiple people on this list (josh, plaslaiko, etc) and all of us just got on with our posting. we may have had our little incidents, but we still posted about things. having that kind of attitude about the whole thing is just counter productive. i know i like the 313 list and alot of the people on it, so even some of the off topic threads amuse me when nothing else is going on. if the thread isnt amusing i delete it, its not that hard. i still delete way more spam than i do OT 313 mail. my delete finger is in good shape. but anyway yeah, just contribute things to discussion and then everyone will be happy. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
-- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick wade - dark ascension - music is... oh man, i had totally forgotten about that LP. very nice stuff, definitely should have been in my top X LPs. i recently got his new 12 on white label forthcoming on moods and grooves (a cool guy record? ;) and its very nice as well tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
rick is one of those producers where i could probably pick up any of his things without listening and still know that at least one track on there i will like a lot. he has a nice direct/simple sound, whether he's doing house or electro. i love that. i look forward to that new mg thing. (now i wonder if mike g will play it tonite at t-funkshun) robin... On 10 Dec 2004, at 14:58, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick wade - dark ascension - music is... oh man, i had totally forgotten about that LP. very nice stuff, definitely should have been in my top X LPs. i recently got his new 12 on white label forthcoming on moods and grooves (a cool guy record? ;) and its very nice as well
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
-- Original Message -- From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well the problem is that when you try to start a threat about a techno record people ignore it. okay, now this is hurting my head. the law of supply and demand is pretty simple to follow: if people supply something and there's no demand you dont continue to supply it. or you do and you work to create demand. anyway, i think youre wrong in that point. ive seen many discussions after marcel posts links to new techno tracks. ive seen plenty of discussions this year about kenny larkin, juan atkins, that rhobag guy, carl craig, etc etc. so people dont just ignore it even if it doesnt necessarily generate the large number of posts kenny and theo do. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
-- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick is one of those producers where i could probably pick up any of his things without listening and still know that at least one track on there i will like a lot. he has a nice direct/simple sound, whether he's doing house or electro. i love that. yeah his stuff is not super complicated. his strings are just the bomb too, you can hear them a mile away and know its him. i really dug that fractured electro styled cut on the LP, it was a little left field for him but really nice, it felt like a war between some robots or something. i look forward to that new mg thing. (now i wonder if mike g will play it tonite at t-funkshun) theres a bunch of other mg whites floating about but i had limited cash and couldnt listen beforehand so i only went with the wade because i know i like basically every record he's ever made. i know theres a new piranhahead, a new minx, and i think one other one as well. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
yeah his stuff is not super complicated. his strings are just the bomb too, you can hear them a mile away and know its him. yeah that's what i love too. really melancholic. i really dug that fractured electro styled cut on the LP, it was a little left field for him but really nice, it felt like a war between some robots or something. mecha. one of the highlights of the lp for me. theres a bunch of other mg whites floating about but i had limited cash and couldnt listen beforehand so i only went with the wade because i know i like basically every record he's ever made. i know theres a new piranhahead, a new minx, and i think one other one as well. i'll keep an eye out for those. robin...
RE: (313) Re:(313) top ten
i look forward to that new mg thing. (now i wonder if mike g will play it tonite at t-funkshun) Dunno, but the advance signs are good, and he's up for playing. He apparently played an impromptu disco set in one of Liverpool's bars last along with their resident Dave Soulism and our very own Mark Forshaw.
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
And yeah some people do mention new techno records here but if no one responds to that people stop mentioning them because they think this lists doesn't care about that. KJ --- http://technotourist.org * I've noticed this too KJ. Maybe if anyone wants to remedy this, I might be able to offer the opportunity! :-) I'm interested in this series of Orlando Voorn releases on Ignitor. They have a peculiar history, as far as I can see. In fact, I hadn't recognized the 'Basic Bastard' project as a Voorn one until they started to appear on Ignitor (the label deal with Submerge.) He had had a number of releases under the BB tag on Spiritual records in the mid-90s. I passed on them because I thought they were little more than bangin' nonsense. When 'Cruisin' appeared (the first BB) on Ignitor, I was intrigued because it was the first Ignitor track (I think) after one of my favorites of last year, 'Diligent'. But when I heard it, I was surprised because it was really linear and far less sophisticated a piece than 'Diligent'. Still far away from the average 'mono' tackle but not all that special really, imo. It now turns out that apart from 'Cruisin', the BB tracks are pretty old. It'd be nice to know what some other people think of the series. I think this is a worthwhile topic because it's about a veteran 313-related artist with a solid body of past work, a lot of which I *do* like, despite my wariness about the Basic Bastard material. K (Silence follows, I bet! ;-)
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
You have to admit though... Seems like everyone only talks about house and not techno anymore on here about 95% of the time. SO, did anybody buy any really great electro records this year? Maybe banging stuff with a slight 313/UR feel, stuff I could rock the dance floor with? I know about UR and Olando Voorn, but would really like to hear about other records, I'm not really sure what all is coming out, local record stores don't stock all that much electro. ~David
Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten
Yeah, that record is really good. BUT did anyone catch the earlier Futago Technologies on Teknotika? That was really sweet, definitely a top record and I'm surprised nobody is rating it! Pretty sure it came out this year unless I'm mixed up. I think I also really like the long A-side mix on the remix EP of that, I think it is new on Teknotika, I listened but didn't have enough ca$h to buy it at the time. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Re:(313) top ten Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:50:45 + From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10 Dec 2004, at 10:20, Paul Kendrick wrote: gary martin - serious business - teknotika I wish I had put this in my list because its defo one of the best 12 of the year, I've been playing it loads. The track serious business sounds well mill's tho. But I like that. ghetto chic (both mixes) are the tracks on the 12 that really get me. brilliant, i love that mid-tempo style rather than the tribal techno stuff he does. robin...
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I tell you what, that 'Cities in Retro' re-release thing by Ultradyne is pretty banging - but good imo. Also check out Dez Williams' material, especially the EP on AI, 'Hex Abuse'. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2004 15:39 To: Brendan Nelson; Renegade808; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... You have to admit though... Seems like everyone only talks about house and not techno anymore on here about 95% of the time. SO, did anybody buy any really great electro records this year? Maybe banging stuff with a slight 313/UR feel, stuff I could rock the dance floor with? I know about UR and Olando Voorn, but would really like to hear about other records, I'm not really sure what all is coming out, local record stores don't stock all that much electro. ~David
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
Hi Ken, Ive picked up BB's 1,3,4 5 (I think thats all that I have seen so far). I like them all but I like most Orlando Voorn things ive heard. 313ers, As to the current topic of no techno/electro records being discussed. I buy lots of records, every style, all the time - I think I have a problem actually, I just cant stop myself ;-)) I would be happy to list them on here (as I do on the LD new records thread every week) but I am really really rubbish and inarticaulate when it comes to describing them so it would be more of a list than a review. If this is something that people would like to see let me know, it would not be a problem... to give you an idea here is what I have picked up over the last few weeks... CHEZ DAMIER FEATURING LEROY BURGESS, Your Love (Lifted Me Up), 12 + 7 CONFUTATIS, Light Reflects Sound, 12 DADABLEEP, Phuq-U, 12 ERROR ERROR, It Hits My Hair, 12 LAWRENCE / VARIOUS, For From Lawrence, 12 MIKKEL METAL, Sorano EP, 12 STRATEGY, Super Vamp, 12 TEAM DOYOBI, Antiquity, 12 THE ARCHITECT, The Night Aint Over, 12 VARIOUS / SPEZIAL MATERIAL, SM03 - A Spezial Material compilation, 2LP Max Berlin : Elle Moi (Remixes Disc 1) - 12 DJ Genesis Pres. Omega : Hush (Amp Fiddler / DJ Dez Remixes) - 12 Herbie Hancock : Stars In Your Eyes (Yam Who Remix) - 12 154 : Strike - 2xLP Psyche : Elements / Neurotic Behaviour - 12 Red Astaire : Hazlo Correcto - 12 Shannon : Let The Music Play - 12 The Underground Track Master : Futuristic Throwback EP - 12 Various Artists : Tango Pres. Get Up Sampler Part One - 12 CARSTEN JOST, Lost Tracks 2, 12 CASCO PRESENTS, Stop / Living Up (Bangkok Impact / Putsch 79 remixes), 12 CHIC / JEAN CARNE / MTUME, Bloody Cheeky, 12 FLUXION, D-Teck, 12 Modeselektor - Turn Deaf! Gameboy - Unbreakable DJ Bone - Encounter 1 A Blast From The Past - Back To The Warehouse EP Starship 727 - All Depends on You Jeff Mills - Three Ages A Guy Called Gerald - First Try NWAQ 4 Troubleshooter - Disaster Recovery EP Luke Eargoggle - If I were a King Luke Eargoggle - NYA Regler Shitcluster - Beyond a Joke Unit Black Flight - Infiltration and Extraction Thomas Barnet - Thrill of the Hunt Also, i want to say that I think people have been a bit harsh on Alex today - he does contribute a lot of usefull information to the list as well as some humour and I think most of the time that the so called OT posts happen is when the list is pretty dead anyway. I certainly dont have a problem with it. Well thats enough from me Cheers BT --- Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd be nice to know what some other people think of the series. I think this is a worthwhile topic because it's about a veteran 313-related artist with a solid body of past work, a lot of which I *do* like, despite my wariness about the Basic Bastard material. K (Silence follows, I bet! ;-)
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
I have Cruisin I think, not too good with track titles but I liked both that and the track on the other side. It to me is really classic sounding Detroit techno, not at all too mono, but just the right deepness while still having enough drive for the dance floor. It's a kind of sound I think of as 313 but don't hear so much. I thought the other sides of the Fix Flash on electrofunk were kind of cool too, though definitely kind of older, had this real nice ghettotech feel but with a lot of substance. Unfortunately haven't really had cash to buy more of these records this year, but was actually thinking about trying to pick more of his stuff up. Would love to hear any track by track reviews. Well I should probably just go to submerge eh? Oh and his set at Movement was HOT despite crap sound. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:30:51 - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org And yeah some people do mention new techno records here but if no one responds to that people stop mentioning them because they think this lists doesn't care about that. KJ --- http://technotourist.org * I've noticed this too KJ. Maybe if anyone wants to remedy this, I might be able to offer the opportunity! :-) I'm interested in this series of Orlando Voorn releases on Ignitor. They have a peculiar history, as far as I can see. In fact, I hadn't recognized the 'Basic Bastard' project as a Voorn one until they started to appear on Ignitor (the label deal with Submerge.) He had had a number of releases under the BB tag on Spiritual records in the mid-90s. I passed on them because I thought they were little more than bangin' nonsense. When 'Cruisin' appeared (the first BB) on Ignitor, I was intrigued because it was the first Ignitor track (I think) after one of my favorites of last year, 'Diligent'. But when I heard it, I was surprised because it was really linear and far less sophisticated a piece than 'Diligent'. Still far away from the average 'mono' tackle but not all that special really, imo. It now turns out that apart from 'Cruisin', the BB tracks are pretty old. It'd be nice to know what some other people think of the series. I think this is a worthwhile topic because it's about a veteran 313-related artist with a solid body of past work, a lot of which I *do* like, despite my wariness about the Basic Bastard material. K (Silence follows, I bet! ;-)
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
To be honest, I've never even heard of Dez Williams... should I have? Who is he, where from, been around long? -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:46:02 - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org I tell you what, that 'Cities in Retro' re-release thing by Ultradyne is pretty banging - but good imo. Also check out Dez Williams' material, especially the EP on AI, 'Hex Abuse'. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2004 15:39 To: Brendan Nelson; Renegade808; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... You have to admit though... Seems like everyone only talks about house and not techno anymore on here about 95% of the time. SO, did anybody buy any really great electro records this year? Maybe banging stuff with a slight 313/UR feel, stuff I could rock the dance floor with? I know about UR and Olando Voorn, but would really like to hear about other records, I'm not really sure what all is coming out, local record stores don't stock all that much electro. ~David
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
As far as I know he has been around for best part of 10 years - search for his name here http://www.boomkat.com/ and you can hear samples of the Ai release that Ken mentioned (I also rate this one highly for what its worth) and also his last album on SCSI Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest, I've never even heard of Dez Williams... should I have? Who is he, where from, been around long? -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:46:02 - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org I tell you what, that 'Cities in Retro' re-release thing by Ultradyne is pretty banging - but good imo. Also check out Dez Williams' material, especially the EP on AI, 'Hex Abuse'. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2004 15:39 To: Brendan Nelson; Renegade808; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... You have to admit though... Seems like everyone only talks about house and not techno anymore on here about 95% of the time. SO, did anybody buy any really great electro records this year? Maybe banging stuff with a slight 313/UR feel, stuff I could rock the dance floor with? I know about UR and Olando Voorn, but would really like to hear about other records, I'm not really sure what all is coming out, local record stores don't stock all that much electro. ~David
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
Unfortunately haven't really had cash to buy more of these records this year, but was actually thinking about trying to pick more of his stuff up. Would love to hear any track by track reviews. Well I should probably just go to submerge eh? yeah the BB stuff i didn't check first time around (in the 90s). lack of info on my part. 4 and 5 seem to be doing the rounds at the mo. from the clips they're on my 'to buy' list as they're less banging than i expected. Oh and his set at Movement was HOT despite crap sound. i agree. if you're gonna play uptempo techno/electro that's defo the way i like it. just the right amount of booty, tricks and changes. yeah shame about the sound in there. i think there were a couple of sweet spots in the sound in there. if you weren't there then it sounded bad. robin...
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
This is wicked! I'm told there's a whole Greek scene on this sort of tip building up - good news no? FLUXION, D-Teck, 12
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
re: electro - roko dragonbreath on blacklabel. really varied, really good stuff. all dynarec things, all ultradyne things. there was some great luke eargoggle/stilleben stuff. the pubahs album had plenty of pretty electro moments, real good. that sterac one. i see there's a new pametex out now at clone which i bet is great. yeah i'd go check clone for tips...new dexter, new klakson stuff, yep yep re: orlando ken - no one's gonna reply cus you're out of your mind! cruising is huge...the chords may be a little bit trancey but the humming bassline is so nice imo, gives me shivers. and the squiggly sounds that come in. there is one basic bastard reissue vol i'm not too hot on, but all the others are amazing, deep, melodic , just plain great detroit techno. lookout, jason b may already be on his way to your place to have a talk...:P re: lurkers who contribute hardly anything but occasional complaints, i'm gonna poke a stick in your eye. post something interesting yourself, this list is your responsibility to try and make it what you want. people who lurk and then complain when great content isn't delivered to them is such a spoiled, entitled attitude. besides, what the hell is wrong with alex bond bringing up tracks with social commentary talk over them? it's music! and it was about blake baxter, how more 313 do you wanna get!? it's a sh!tload better than someone submitting yet another complaint that provides nothing worthwhile for anybody to read. alex provides more juicy gossip, upcoming release news, and stimulating music talk than about anybody else, and most of his posts are very succinct and don't contain huge quoted messages or anything. he bats about 700/1000 a week ! :P you're bound to hit the ball if you swing at enough pitches
(313) all this electro talk
has got me itching to expand my electro collection. there's a breaks night in boston with a pretty good following but it's hard to spin a good set with only 15 records ;) so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Chicago NYE (OT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know of any events happening in Chicago for NYE? We (www.opaqueproject.com) are planning to do one, but still have to finalize all the details. I'll post the info once it's ready. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Chicago NYE (OT)
[atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED]] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know of any events happening in Chicago for NYE? We (www.opaqueproject.com) are planning to do one, but still have to finalize all the details. I'll post the info once it's ready. er... www.theopaqueproject.com You think I'd know that by now. Hah. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) all this electro talk
Andrea Parker's label Touchin' Bass has some good stuff on it (I believe that a mixed retrospective of the first 10 releases or so is due) including tracks by Bass Junkie and her collab with DJs Assualt Godfather. However, it has to be said that her stuff is head and shoulders above the rest of the artists (IMO of course) even though they're all pretty respectable. It's just something she does with the bass I think At 11:19 am -0500 10/12/04, Matt Kane wrote: has got me itching to expand my electro collection. there's a breaks night in boston with a pretty good following but it's hard to spin a good set with only 15 records ;) so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
SO, did anybody buy any really great electro records this year? Maybe banging stuff with a slight 313/UR feel, stuff I could rock the dance floor with? The claro intellecto ep sections as well as the previous piece of mind both have some serious space cadet bangout electro on. Also the big booty ep on electrofunk by mr. De is Ghetto heat for real.(nobody knows about these bxtches...). Ultradyne's priviledge of sacrifice joint as well as the cities in retro bizness are both ESSENTIAL. Kinda evil too. In like that evil witch that everybody wants to tap cuz she's so hot kinda way. I liked the sterac stuff but couldn't afford to buy 'em. The arne weinberg 7 (aw001) has a break that I consider electro, but not in the typical drexciya definition. Not banging so much as trancending melodica, but electro nonetheless. Also another arne track, the one on starbaby (can't think of the title) is dope. I'm not too big on the fabrice lig rmx, or the other, more minimal electro track with the atonal sawtooths,, but the lush track with the falling one note bassline is the bizzomb, sounds so urgent and futuristic (ahh those verbed! out bells...). Also coming out of this into cybotron-clear has become one of my after I clear the floor standard moves. Always gets 'em back in the groove. I never got any of the dynarec joints though I still want them soo bad. Mecha on the rick wade thing is one of my fave electro releases of the year though pretty far from banging though, more moody than anything. Man there's tons more I can't recall right now. Have to flip through my bag when I get home. How's that for techno talk? Am I cool yet? Oh wait! **reaches for a kool menthol and a white label** ;^D Kamal K. Stoddard Techno Kool Kids Inc. ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
RE: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...(Basic B'stard)
Hi Dan, that is good news, as you say this one is top, so I for one am up for more. Thanks for the info Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is wicked! I'm told there's a whole Greek scene on this sort of tip building up - good news no? FLUXION, D-Teck, 12
Re: (313) all this electro talk
Try these: Electrofunk, Puzzlebox, Databass, UR, Clone, Pi Gao Movement, Blacklabel... On the electro tip, i think that the new Erik van den Broek on Shiver (yes also back :)) is out now thru Clone. On 10-dec-04, at 17:19, Matt Kane wrote: has got me itching to expand my electro collection. there's a breaks night in boston with a pretty good following but it's hard to spin a good set with only 15 records ;) so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) all this electro talk
On 10-dec-04, at 17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrea Parker's label Touchin' Bass has some good stuff on it (I believe that a mixed retrospective of the first 10 releases or so is due) including tracks by Bass Junkie and her collab with DJs Assualt Godfather. However, it has to be said that her stuff is head and shoulders above the rest of the artists (IMO of course) even though they're all pretty respectable. It's just something she does with the bass I think One of the few UK based electro artists i really like and i forgot in my other mail (how could i!) Is ofcourse Ed DMX! The stuff he does as EDMX, DMX Crew, Computer Rockers etc. is amazing and so is he Breaking Records label. At 11:19 am -0500 10/12/04, Matt Kane wrote: has got me itching to expand my electro collection. there's a breaks night in boston with a pretty good following but it's hard to spin a good set with only 15 records ;) so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) On Topic: Movement 2005?
Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Could someone maybe have a chat with the folks nominally in charge of Movement, and get a status report? I don't really care about specific names of performers as much as whether the infrastructure is in place, whether the City is going to be supportive, whether potential sponsors has been contacted, whether the EFFING THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Stuff like that. Without exaqggerating the importance of the people on this mailing list, if there IS going to be a festival, we're an enthusiastic street team, who can be very helpful to the festival in many ways. It's not too much to ask them to throw us a bone. and I don't mean DJ Bone. Those overseas especially would be greatly aided in their decisions about buying plane tickets, making hotel reservations, etc.. It's only 5 months away!
Re: (313) all this electro talk
Satamile Bunker Clone Puzzlebox SCSI Mass Tansit tons of stuff out of Detroit - check anything on UR, Tunnel 7, Motech, Afro Syntrix, any of DJ Bone's recent releases as well as anything on Subject Detroit, Metroplex, etc. Kombintation Research usually has one or two tracks per 12 (Advent's label) Breakin' Records for a bit of the retro b-boy sound Rephlex Electrix happy hunting MEK Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 12/10/2004 10:19 313@hyperreal.org AM cc Subject (313) all this electro talk has got me itching to expand my electro collection. there's a breaks night in boston with a pretty good following but it's hard to spin a good set with only 15 records ;) so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) all this electro talk
so then, which electro labels should i look for next time i'm at the shop? well i'm just gonna focus on one cus i think they are criminally slept on... stilleben! http://www.stillebenrecords.com or a direct link to their discography, with soundbites at http://www.analogue.org/stilleben/all/discogra.html there are tons of tracks on there that are up there with the best dopplereffekt stuff, and rutherford...whewww... rutherford has a page with mixes and tracks at http://hem.bredband.net/rutherford/ unfortunately he took many of my favorites down (hopefully that means they're coming out soon!)...he had one up that was like section 25 (in the vocals department) over raw italo/nrg...dann...
Re: (313) On Topic: Movement 2005?
Those overseas especially would be greatly aided in their decisions about buying plane tickets, making hotel reservations, etc.. It's only 5 months away! this can't be stressed enough. if a lot of us europeans are gonna consider coming over at all we have to take advantage of the cost advantage of booking flights early. after last years last minute scare abotu whether it will happen at all it's kinda hard to make that leap of faith at the mo. robin...
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
what i think plays an important role in the decline of 313-techno being discussed on this list compared to, say 4 or 5 years ago, are a couple of factors: 1. most people now subscribed have been on this list for a long time, and have allready heard/read all the who is drexciya threads etc. so once a question pops up, it either gets answered quickly, or it passes everyones attention, as it seems irrelevant. 2. the knowledge available outside of the list has grown enormously. was the 313-list one of the few places to get information on drexciya, s.i.d., retroactive records or santonio echols, nowadays a google search will provide you with information, where a couple of years ago all you got was a link to a recordstore when typing drexciya into google. 3. if you go back to the '94 archives, and up to the late 90ies, a lot of information is shared on the period from '86-'94. all this information is now common knowledge, so it doesn't get discussed anymore, whereas a couple of years ago it made up for 20% or so of the total information flow on the 313-list. 4. and perhaps not as much techno is coming from detroit as it was a decade ago, where the rest of the world has caught up. all these factors combined, result in a decrease of on topic posts. jurren (who forgot to add orgue electrique's 'texas brooklyn heaven' on creme to his best of 2004 list) _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
(313) Haywire Christmas Party
SATURDAY 11TH DECEMBER : HAYWIRE CHRISTMAS PARTY 2 rooms : Santa's Grotto : free mix cd to first 100 EXZAKT [Monotone/Datapunk/USA] ANDREW WEATHERALL [RGC] RADIOACTIVE MAN [RGC/Control Tower] BASS JUNKIE [BattleTrax] MAT CARTER [Varial] SHELLEY PARKER [Nerd] RICK HOPKINS [Outlet] NOYEAHNO [RagBone] beer spirits £2.50 / soft drinks £1.25 10pm - 6am [arrive early - no admittance after 1am] secret Sarf East London location - Zone 1 only 2 mins from tube - STRICTLY ticket only tickets £10 and available only from Phonica 020 7025 6070 Rough Trade 020 7240 0105 Smallfish 020 77392252
(313) uk / intelligent techno
Hi fellas, hope you are fine! I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Greetings from teh south, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
I think there's still a nice number of techno coming out of detroit and outside detroit under small independent labels, but the fact the're small is big part of the problem. we never hear about them and therefore it sometimes get's overlooked when mentioned in the threads. M From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic... Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:48:27 + what i think plays an important role in the decline of 313-techno being discussed on this list compared to, say 4 or 5 years ago, are a couple of factors: 1. most people now subscribed have been on this list for a long time, and have allready heard/read all the who is drexciya threads etc. so once a question pops up, it either gets answered quickly, or it passes everyones attention, as it seems irrelevant. 2. the knowledge available outside of the list has grown enormously. was the 313-list one of the few places to get information on drexciya, s.i.d., retroactive records or santonio echols, nowadays a google search will provide you with information, where a couple of years ago all you got was a link to a recordstore when typing drexciya into google. 3. if you go back to the '94 archives, and up to the late 90ies, a lot of information is shared on the period from '86-'94. all this information is now common knowledge, so it doesn't get discussed anymore, whereas a couple of years ago it made up for 20% or so of the total information flow on the 313-list. 4. and perhaps not as much techno is coming from detroit as it was a decade ago, where the rest of the world has caught up. all these factors combined, result in a decrease of on topic posts. jurren (who forgot to add orgue electrique's 'texas brooklyn heaven' on creme to his best of 2004 list) _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno
On 10-dec-04, at 18:19, dinamica wrote: I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Hmpf! Last time i checked Florence lived in Holland :) I would like to add both B12's Soma Electra and Time Tourist albuma. Autechre's Incunanubla is also in there, same goed for the Polygon Window album, Selected Ambient Works part I. Then there is The Philosophy Of Sound And Machine on ART. Most of Beaumont Hannant's stuff is great to, Then there are Luke Slater The 7th Plain albums... oh the list is endless! I always thought that Nuron = Paul W. Teebrooke = Phenomyna = Stasis = Steve Pickton? KJ
Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno
check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) not new LA Synthesis' Matrix Surfer CD is great Ismistik - Remain (Djax-up-beats) Ian O'Brien - Desert Scores LP most of the Reflective releases Stasis - From the Old to the New Paul W Teebrooke - Nova I like the Wavescape releases on 4th Wave MEK dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com.br To 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/2004 11:19 cc AM Subject (313) uk / intelligent techno Hi fellas, hope you are fine! I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Greetings from teh south, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno
forgot to mention the new releases on Eevo Lute records and the short lived [FWD: label what happened to FWD? I thought it was an interesting label that was pushing some great future music. MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 12/10/2004 11:56 dinamica AM[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) not new LA Synthesis' Matrix Surfer CD is great Ismistik - Remain (Djax-up-beats) Ian O'Brien - Desert Scores LP most of the Reflective releases Stasis - From the Old to the New Paul W Teebrooke - Nova I like the Wavescape releases on 4th Wave MEK dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com.br To 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/2004 11:19 cc AM Subject (313) uk / intelligent techno Hi fellas, hope you are fine! I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Greetings from teh south, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
(313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm.
Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno
One more label to check out - City Centre Offices MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 12/10/2004 12:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PM cc 313@hyperreal.org, dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno forgot to mention the new releases on Eevo Lute records and the short lived [FWD: label what happened to FWD? I thought it was an interesting label that was pushing some great future music. MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 12/10/2004 11:56 dinamica AM[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) not new LA Synthesis' Matrix Surfer CD is great Ismistik - Remain (Djax-up-beats) Ian O'Brien - Desert Scores LP most of the Reflective releases Stasis - From the Old to the New Paul W Teebrooke - Nova I like the Wavescape releases on 4th Wave MEK dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com.br To 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/2004 11:19 cc AM Subject (313) uk / intelligent techno Hi fellas, hope you are fine! I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Greetings from teh south, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
What a complete and total rip-off of two great tunes (Phylps Trak Ride the Rhythm). God I hate Subliminal records - this is such a lazy, thieving production. It's not so much that he sampled these two tracks - putting these two together sounds cool. It's Anthony Acid's own work that is on top of all this - it's horribly cheezy wooshing cymbals and sound efx. This fcking bites. MEK Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To et 313@hyperreal.org cc 12/10/2004 12:21 PMSubject (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm.
Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...
speaking of off-topic, i'd say this thread defines it. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Renegade808 wrote: Alex I was not really refering to you when taking about cool guy records or anyone in particular but hey if the shoe fits wear it..i was GENERALLY talking about the list discussions overall.i am just pointing out something that happens over and over (as in kdj threads).it just seems like many things get talked about repeatedly.i just figured people would catch on and kinda be like hey we have already covered this like 50 times lets move on.. the things i WAS refering to you about were some of the dumb ass threads you start (in my opinion)not all of them are dumb , but some are VERY off topic.and i am not saying it is just you, but since you seem to have a problem with me and the things i post, than i will direct this at you i guessi aint saying you cant post whatever you want but manif your bored at work please keep from junking up my mailbox and others with dumb threads about how people who talk over records should be poked in the eye or whatever you feel like talking about on a monday morning. half of the time i post its just my thoughts or opinions on whatever it is we are talking abouti am not trying to be the correct one or the 313 leader... just sharing my thoughts which is what i thought this list is about so unless i say something directly to you alex than quit jumping down my throat any time i say something. and if your wondering why it is i lurk most of the time and don't participate well this should be a good indication as to why.attitude all over this listand yea including mine i am not moaning at all, just pointing out a few things...sorry if you don't like italex michael www.renegaderhythms.com Mike. Try bringing up this talk yourself instead of waiting for others to do it, and then sitting there moaning about it when no one else does it. And regards cool guy records. I'm talking about the s**t I can come across from, you know, the local record shop - no where else. Besides, I always thought peeps might want to know about the new bits - I do in reverse, the bits I dont have then I can make a note to look for. Moan moan moan moan, And then do nothing about it. Good one. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm. Bleeegh, I don't like the track at all... sorry.. sounds like progressive house / trance...
Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
That said, it's probably going to be a huge hit for them. MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 12/10/2004 12:31 Derek Plaslaiko. PM[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record What a complete and total rip-off of two great tunes (Phylps Trak Ride the Rhythm). God I hate Subliminal records - this is such a lazy, thieving production. It's not so much that he sampled these two tracks - putting these two together sounds cool. It's Anthony Acid's own work that is on top of all this - it's horribly cheezy wooshing cymbals and sound efx. This fcking bites. MEK Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To et 313@hyperreal.org cc 12/10/2004 12:21 PMSubject (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm.
Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
Oh i wasnt PRAISING it... just merely pointing it out. in fact, good call Michael... didnt even realize it to also be ripping ride the rhythm off too. was more taken back by phylps trak. lol morillo has a history of putting out stuff with samples of underground stuff... im guessing hoping it slips by. i recall him sampling spastik and rich approaching him on it, and morillo saying something to the effect of nononono... i *PLAYED* that myself! i know! it sounds *JUST* like it!. rich had lawyers on it a while back. dont know what ever happened with that. derek. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, DJ Ken wrote: http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm. Bleeegh, I don't like the track at all... sorry.. sounds like progressive house / trance...
RE: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
Its all sampled. Ride the Rhythm vocal is from Little Louie Vega track on Strictly Rhythm -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm.
(313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 06:42:48PM +0100, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: On 10-dec-04, at 18:19, dinamica wrote: I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return Hmpf! Last time i checked Florence lived in Holland :) I would like to add both B12's Soma Electra and Time Tourist albuma. Autechre's Incunanubla is also in there, same goed for the Polygon Window album, Selected Ambient Works part I. Then there is The Philosophy Of Sound And Machine on ART. Most of Beaumont Hannant's stuff is great to, Then there are Luke Slater The 7th Plain albums... oh the list is endless! IMHO, the B12 LPs are more floor oriented, less intelligent (yes, agree it sounds dull), or less challenging. SAW1 and ART CD1 are great, maybe they could be in the above list, but none of the 7th Plans and the Beaumont stuff come close. I always thought that Nuron = Paul W. Teebrooke = Phenomyna = Stasis = Steve Pickton? Stasis sounds different IMHO, and many say Nuron is this Nurmad... Maybe just another joke... (might say I belived Paul Teebrooke was another chap when that Nova EP came out... tsktsktsk... heheheh) On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:56:57AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) I have heard some good stuff from the above artists/labels, but nothing as exciting or challenging as the records initially mentioned. Do you have any counter-example? Which release in particular? Ian O'Brien - Desert Scores LP This is good, reasonably ok produced, although most tracks are uncredited covers of Weather Report / Chick Corea songs. most of the Reflective releases Any in particular? On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:10:35PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : forgot to mention the new releases on Eevo Lute records and the short lived [FWD: label what happened to FWD? I thought it was an interesting label that was pushing some great future music. The first EP by Arovane is good, but very far from mind-blowing. Accordingly to Stefan, FDW: is still on, but dormant, since he has changed focus back to his own stuff released throguh Eevolute. Maybe I am too hard on this and trying to recover a nostalgic feeling I have about this UK/intelligent techno music. Not heard the Ross154 or the Connection Machine new LPs, though, are they promissing?? Cheers, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record
Any musicologist would nail this track right away for being what it is - a big 'ol ripped off sample. Spastik you can get away with since it's mostly drum programming. Not this one however. If they did replay the track - it's far too close to the original. I think they should have to be able to remake the track again, live, in court. To show the judge that they did indeed make the track themselves. I hope they didn't license it, that way Moritz can hit them hard with a lawsuit. Suck some wind out of their sails. Fcking thieves. Did I mention already how much I hate Subliminal records? MEK Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To et DJ Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 12/10/2004 12:42 313@hyperreal.org PMSubject Re: (313) phylps trak sampled on a subliminal record Oh i wasnt PRAISING it... just merely pointing it out. in fact, good call Michael... didnt even realize it to also be ripping ride the rhythm off too. was more taken back by phylps trak. lol morillo has a history of putting out stuff with samples of underground stuff... im guessing hoping it slips by. i recall him sampling spastik and rich approaching him on it, and morillo saying something to the effect of nononono... i *PLAYED* that myself! i know! it sounds *JUST* like it!. rich had lawyers on it a while back. dont know what ever happened with that. derek. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, DJ Ken wrote: http://www.wattsmusic.com then punch 194514 in the search field and listen to ride the rhythm. Bleeegh, I don't like the track at all... sorry.. sounds like progressive house / trance...
(313) Re:
Maybe I am too hard on this and trying to recover a nostalgic feeling I have about this UK/intelligent techno music. Might say that. Nothing is going to sound like those records again and I don't think I'd ever want them to. IMO it's best we keep moving on. MEK
(313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
Re: (313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
On 10-dec-04, at 20:07, dinamica wrote: The first EP by Arovane is good, but very far from mind-blowing. Accordingly to Stefan, FDW: is still on, but dormant, since he has changed focus back to his own stuff released throguh Eevolute. How about this: http://www.eevolute.com/index.php?assetname=textid=67 :) Maybe I am too hard on this and trying to recover a nostalgic feeling I have about this UK/intelligent techno music. Not heard the Ross154 or the Connection Machine new LPs, though, are they promissing?? You are trying to capture a now gone time period. For me Techno will always be the Virtual Sex and Panic in Detroit compilations on Buzz for instance :) KJ
Re: (313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) I have heard some good stuff from the above artists/labels, but nothing as exciting or challenging as the records initially mentioned. Do you have any counter-example? Which release in particular? Nothing in particular, just some things I like that are in the same general area of sound. There is always great music out there if your mind and ears are open to it. It's hard to beat some of the first records of any particular new genre, especially if you were around to hear it develop. Black Dog records are great because they remind you of a certain time but there's been loads of releases since that are just as great if you remain objective. Plaid stuff has been pretty damn cool. MEK
Re: (313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
Sorry, but speaking of poking people's eyes out, I really feel like doing it to anyone who uses the phrase intelligent techno. That is such a pretentious wanker term. Most of the music discussed on this list is intelligent, intelligent techno sounds like an insult to all the other techno - or maybe techno you can dance to is DUMB?!!! Anyway, instead of working, I'm surfing Submerge and I'm pretty impressed but what I see up there. Things I'm considering buying: Ultradyne - Privilege of Sacrifice Analog Footprints - Age of Hypocrisy The Seawolf The Theory Gerald Mitchell - Resurrection (w 2nd track on the mp3 sample sounds banging) UR 57 - DJ S2, Slide The Return of Gigi Galaxy - Lips So Sweet Damn and that is just the start... I'm still listening. This just convinces me, there is more good 313 techno coming out than ever! ~David
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. And i don't read this list for 12 reviews/discussions/announcments I read it for the occasional live review and some spirited and often humorous conversation. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
(313) mix WNUR Chicago - 3 December 2004 - Walking on Thin Ice
Clinically Inclined 3 December 2004 Fridays 9:30pm - 12:00am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago http://SonicSunset.com for audio archives This week marks our one year anniversary of archives for download. Thanks for all your positive emails and IMs -- we wouldn't be doing it without your interest and support :) Part 1 Slow/deep funky Chicago steppers anthem from Loggins Messina winds it up. Midtempo synthetic pre-house from Raww and BMX left-field classic from Yoko Ono. Bangkok Impact bangs up Unit 4, and brand new music from Jersey Devil Social Club with their monster dub remake of MAGNIFIQUE! Part 2 fast-paced electro races through the uk, germany, holland, and detroit, returning to chicago with downtempo idm before re-launching into the swirling grit of minimal chord-driven techno, including some new bits from spain's hard techno specialists exium and ottawa's talented texture-slinger tim hecker. part 1 Matt MacQueen Parliament - Gloryhallastoopid intro (Casablanca) Loggins Messina - Pathway to Glory - Full Sail (Colombia) Taana Gardner - Heartbeat (West End) Mtume - Juicy Fruit (Epic) Depeche Mode - Breathing in Fumes - But Not Tonight EP (Sire) Jamie Principle - Waiting for my Angel (Persona) RAWW - Don't You Try It - dub (Emergency) DJ Yoav B - Come Together - Boogie Down Saturn EP (Wabi Sabi) Unit 4 - Bodydub - Bangkok Impact rmx (Clone) Yoko Ono - Walking on Thin Ice (Polydor) Charlie - Spacer Woman (Automan) Raiders of the Lost Arp - Funk 008 (Palms ride) - (Pigna) Jersey Devil Social Club - Magnifique - Dub (Environ) Roni Griffith - Spys (Vanguard) Static - What It Is (Sonar Kollektiv) part 2 dave siska the advent - there's no danger - elements of life (internal) cane - fall (arcola) the martian - intruder (red planet) agent patrick data - boogie down detroit (southern outpost) nubian mindz - missing time (archive) third electric - tele-funken (electrocord) duplex - martian lakes - ep3 (clone) bochum welt - new europa - program 11 (elypsia) miles tilmann - double (sub:marine) g man - le soleil - bayou paradis (force inc) sven vath - augenblick [sensorama railway mix] (virgin) phenomyna - everlast (otherworld) mono junk - a... (trope) ricardo villalobos - 2000 abdominals (perlon) brubaker - in (ifach) motorbass - visine (motorbass) exium - unit 2 - highly intelligent units (warm up) tim hecker - incurably optimistic - mirages (alien8) Audio archives for download http://SonicSunset.com --- Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air in Chicago every Friday night.
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit you mean Minneapolis MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To lnoize.com 313@hyperreal.org, 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/2004 01:50 cc PM Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
(313) Holidays in the D
I'm surprise (or maybe not) that there isn't a 'home for the holidays' 313 party around xmas time. I've talked to several who are going back for that time frame. d __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
I like this list the way it is, all the different flavours that tip their collective hat to the D. I really enjoy posts from people like Ken, Matt, Dan, Greg, Alex, Rob and Brendan etc. just because they all listen to stuff I mostly wouldn't ever listen to, so when I see a mail with them raving about something, I nearly always try and check it out, I still don't own a Theo record mind :) But some of it does sink in, so even tho things go off topic, I think it would be a sad day indeed if all we talked about was music that came from 313 - that isn't the point and is far too narrow for anyone involved in techno. There's some great knowledge on this list and although we do go off topic and lark around (I'm as guilty as anyone), lets not all jump down each others throats, it doesn't matter what other people/media call it, that's just surface...we call it techno Hard Stuff Regis/Surgeon/Ruskin/Sims/McCormack/Temple/Verbos/Grovskopa/Mulero/Itoh/Reeko/Sysex/Antination/65D Mavericks/Ho/Bicknell/Kramer/Wild/Paul Mac/Valero/Angela Flame/Pacho/BMB/Scorn/System23... I'll do a bigger list when I'm not dashing out if you are interested in checking out the harder stuff... Martin
Re: (313) Holidays in the D
Family Reunion on the tuesday between xmas and nye. :) On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, diana potts wrote: I'm surprise (or maybe not) that there isn't a 'home for the holidays' 313 party around xmas time. I've talked to several who are going back for that time frame. d __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival or accepted en masse by many yet. It needs to change, but there are many in control right now that want to maintain the status quo. Since Transmat still supposedly has control of the festival, why not send them an email and inquire. If anything, it will hopefully spur them to get started. It would be amazingly impressive if they could get it together *gasp* early and not leave the international folks hanging in the wind. In case many of you haven't figured it out, there's about 5-10 people that completely control this festival behind the scenes, and that's the way it's going to continue. Unfortunately, organization is not their strong point. You would think that after last year they would come correct and get it done now. Top secret procrastination at its best... Peace, Alex http://www.pigaomovement.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:56 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org, 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. And i don't read this list for 12 reviews/discussions/announcments I read it for the occasional live review and some spirited and often humorous conversation. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
Re: (313) Holidays in the D
Family Reunion at The Works http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=20927.0 On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, diana potts wrote: I'm surprise (or maybe not) that there isn't a 'home for the holidays' 313 party around xmas time. I've talked to several who are going back for that time frame. d __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. Actually the fact is that this IS a list about detroit techno. So I don't care of if Detroit Bluegrass is is the sound of Detroit right now, it would be good to hear about a little techno hear and there. Though I can't say i've been too voiceful myself, I can't really make any reviews of the records that i'm NOT buying. But we do forget that this is a list about Techno. Dave
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival What sound of Detroit is the festival not covering? curious MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:27 To PM[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival or accepted en masse by many yet. It needs to change, but there are many in control right now that want to maintain the status quo. Since Transmat still supposedly has control of the festival, why not send them an email and inquire. If anything, it will hopefully spur them to get started. It would be amazingly impressive if they could get it together *gasp* early and not leave the international folks hanging in the wind. In case many of you haven't figured it out, there's about 5-10 people that completely control this festival behind the scenes, and that's the way it's going to continue. Unfortunately, organization is not their strong point. You would think that after last year they would come correct and get it done now. Top secret procrastination at its best... Peace, Alex http://www.pigaomovement.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:56 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org, 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. And i don't read this list for 12 reviews/discussions/announcments I read it for the occasional live review and some spirited and often humorous conversation. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no
RE: (313) uk / intelligent techno
So who here has heard of blaktronics and what's your take on their music? I personally am floored by most of what they put out but then, Im biased. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. ** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:57 PM To: dinamica Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) uk / intelligent techno check releases on Delsin (Aardvarck, Shed, Strand, Newworldaquarium - who is also on Peacefrog) Blaktroniks - Seduction at 33 1/3 Future Beat Alliance Emoticon records Susumu Yokota - tons of his releases are worth looking into. The latest I picked up was Over Head on the Play label. Brilliant forward moving music. Metamatics/Norken/Nacht Plank/Lee Norris - just about anything on the Hydrogen Dukebox label Neo Ouija records Djax up Bitch (dub) label Electric Birds - Gradiations (Mille Plateaux - this label is worth checking out) not new LA Synthesis' Matrix Surfer CD is great Ismistik - Remain (Djax-up-beats) Ian O'Brien - Desert Scores LP most of the Reflective releases Stasis - From the Old to the New Paul W Teebrooke - Nova I like the Wavescape releases on 4th Wave MEK dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com.br To 313@hyperreal.org 12/10/2004 11:19 cc AM Subject (313) uk / intelligent techno Hi fellas, hope you are fine! I've been organizing my collection latelly and got quite nostalgic after listening to: Likemind 02 Florence: Occurences BDP: Bytes Reload: A collection of ... Stasis: Point of no return IMHO, These are very high points of the UK / Intelligent techno genre. I am wondering which are your faves in this genre and if there are any new stuff that can rival these records. BTW, is this Nuron/Fugue discography complete? www.discogs.com/artist/Nuron And where has Nurmad Jusat been? Any chance of him producing more music? Greetings from teh south, Guilherme --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
so if you don't buy anything, then why do you care? and if all the djs/producers living in detroit have gone to one extent or the other beyond what the text books call Detroi techno, than isn't that by default what Detroi techno now is? hence the problem with naming genres after cities. maybe you should go start a DerrickMayKevinSaundersonJuanAtkinsEddieFowlkesAux88DrexciyaJeffMillsRobHoodClaudeYoung list, so there's no confusion. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, D B wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. Actually the fact is that this IS a list about detroit techno. So I don't care of if Detroit Bluegrass is is the sound of Detroit right now, it would be good to hear about a little techno hear and there. Though I can't say i've been too voiceful myself, I can't really make any reviews of the records that i'm NOT buying. But we do forget that this is a list about Techno. Dave
RE: (313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
Not heard the Ross154 or the Connection Machine new LPs, though, are they promissing?? OMFG!! That's how I felt on first listen. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
Re: (313) Re: uk / intelligent techno
-- Original Message -- From: dinamica [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not heard the Ross154 or the Connection Machine new LPs, though, are they promissing?? the connection machine is not new, its from 94 originally to be released on planet e. its really really really good, actually. tom andythepooh.com
