Re: (313) roll call?

2013-06-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
That thunderstorm was massive and kinda dangerous with all that metal on stage, 
if i remember it correctly then Derrick got on the mic and cancelled the last 
set (his set) because it was too dangerous. I always knew we technotourists 
were electrifying :D

KJ


On 7 jun. 2013, at 07:43, Lara Terrell l...@geeandel.com wrote:

 Been here since 1998 or so...
 I have never contributed much but this list helps me stay connected to the 
 music that i love! Thx to all who keep it going!
 I went to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th DEMF/Movement festivals. Met some of you 
 (strange chance meeting of a TechnoTourist during that epic thunderstorm when 
 Juan Atkins set started) was that 2001? Anyone remember that storm?  
 
 On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:46 PM, djkontr...@comcast.net djkontr...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 On and off since mid 90s
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 From: Andy Green mr.verd...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:55:30 +0200
 To: KiDD*e3...@qui-design.fr
 Cc: Three-One-Three313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) roll call?
 
 Hehe,
 
 I was going to mention that chance meeting actually (was cool) Its actually 
 quite surprising how small the community really is but for me I feel quite 
 privileged to be part of such discerning and knowledgeable group. As a 
 measure of how small this group really  
 
 Despite following the music from day 1 I'm not really sure why it took so 
 long to subscribe (only 3 years ago!) but I've enjoyed reading the posts and 
 my continued education.   
 
  
 
 On 28 Nov 2012, at 21:55, KiDD*e 3...@qui-design.fr wrote:
 
 Nice to hear so many people on the list.
 As for me, I subscribed in the late 90’s.
 Like it happened some weeks ago with Andrew Green, it’s always great to 
 meet others 313 technotourists subscribers.
 
 I went to the Jeff Mills Axis 20th anniversary party in Paris last week,
 and this next friday Derrick May is at the Rex club, so my Detroit-Techno 
 needs are really fulfil :)
 
 Enjoy,
 — K*
 
 Le 28/11/2012 21:57, Tristan Watkins a écrit :
 Present. Here since '98 I think. 
 From: Dimitris
 Sent: 28/11/2012 20:17
 To: Eric Lyons
 Cc: Danielle Scott; maxphi...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org; 
 mar...@nomorewords.net
 Subject: Re: (313) roll call?
 
 Still here. Lurking from the birthplace of philosophy.
 
 - Dimitris 
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Eric Lyons e...@blubuni.com wrote:
 Lurking from Los Angeles!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Danielle Scott ellei...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Still lurkung here too!
 
 On 2012-11-28 9:16 AM, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 m50
 
 
 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?
 
 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?
 
 
 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good 
 to be back!
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) Ross 154 / New World Aquarium

2013-04-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Any remixes planed? :-)

On 11 apr. 2013, at 10:14, Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net wrote:

 
 his last creation is a little baby boy (a co-production) born almost three 
 weeks ago
 
 
 Op 10-4-2013 17:49, Arturo Lopez schreef:
 Does anyone know what the man has been up to musically for the last few 
 years? Such an amazing catalog of releases and not a peep of late.
 
 Surely one of you cool people in the know will know what he's been up to?
 
 -Art
 



Re: (313) roll call?

2012-11-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Still lurking here subscribed as soon as the big bang happened which i see as 
the first techno beat ever :-)


Klaas-Jan


On 28 nov. 2012, at 12:57, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still here - writing from a train on the way from Hamburg to Berlin.
 
 Anyone else?
 
 m50
 
 
 At 2012.11.28 11:47, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 how many subscribers are left anyway?
 
 and will there be a 20 years anniversary party?
 
 
 Op 28-11-2012 11:46, Philip McGarva schreef:
 btw i haven't been lurking for like 5 years - i just resubbed. it's good to 
 be back!
 
 



Re: (313) Serious Grooves

2012-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Hi Rob,

Yes we missed you too :-)

I always thought that Serious Grooves was a KMS sub label, but then again i am 
not the Oracle of Detroit techno :-) But if someone can shed some inside 
information, then this would be very interesting.

KJ


On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:40 PM, rob theakston wrote:

 Hello, it's me. I've thought about us for a long, long time.
 
 And I have a technical question for someone who has smarts beyond me:
 was Serious Grooves to be considered a KMS sub label or not? I have
 conflicting information in my notes from a long time ago, but Discogs
 is saying it wasn't, even though it seems as if KMS was fairly
 involved in the logistics of the label. Anyone have any first hand
 accounts of the accurate story line?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cranky Lurker



Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-03 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Ah you want to start a fight with Vince i see :-) 

I am still want to see vince in his hardcore period, anyone got some pictures 
of him wearing those white 'raver gloves' all those scottish people were 
wearing back in ye' old days? :-)


On 3 sep 2011, at 09:21, ja...@iridite.com wrote:

 LOL - I thought that was Vince Watson, no?
 
 Jason
 
 On 3 September 2011 01:27, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
 Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-)
 On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote:
 
 the dutch don't know shit
 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the
 list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-)
 
 I will start:
 - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?
 
 :-))
 
 KJ
 
 
 



Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-03 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person

Really i still want to know that :-) 
Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about people 
who spoke to him on the phone

KJ

On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

 don't worry, y'all.   I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. 
 THEN it'll be the good old days!
 
 On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain 
 mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:
  Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go.
  
  On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
  - The monthly Hawtin thread.  Hair or no hair?  Glasses or contacts? 
  Windsor
  or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit?
  
  -- 
  matt kane's brain
  http://hydrogenproject.com



Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-03 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Seriously, you made my day, y ou are the first person who i know who has 
actually met Lance! I  know Otto was about to meet but i guess he chickened 
out. For years i have thought that Lance nothing more then a very advanced chat 
program :-)


On 3 sep 2011, at 16:04, Minto George wrote:

 sup KJ! long time!...he is indeed a real dude. Met him one day when I was in 
 Cleveland in '97 up at Bent Crayon. Last time I talked to him was a few years 
 ago when he started some fan page on fb for Stasis.
 
 minto
 
 On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Almost, i am also up for a: Is Lance McGannon and actual person
 
 Really i still want to know that :-) 
 Never met anyone who actually has seen him although i heard report about 
 people who spoke to him on the phone
 
 KJ
 
 On 3 sep 2011, at 15:19, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:
 
 don't worry, y'all.   I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. 
 THEN it'll be the good old days!
 
 On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain 
 mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote:
  Windsor's got full-nude strip clubs where you can drink, so there you go.
  
  On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 21:59, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote:
  - The monthly Hawtin thread.  Hair or no hair?  Glasses or contacts? 
  Windsor
  or wherever he's living that's not in close proximity of Detroit?
  
  -- 
  matt kane's brain
  http://hydrogenproject.com
 



Re: (313) Now Playing: Analog Dreams Remixed on Sistrum

2011-09-03 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Wow! Stop right there! Is there a new Martin Bond album coming up? And this is 
not the Reek by Real compilation that was out recently?

KJ


(i am loving this new found love here on 313)

On 3 sep 2011, at 18:32, ja...@iridite.com wrote:

 Is that the Marty Bonds LP?  I literally couldn't believe how good the
 sound clips were on that - can't wait to hear the full thing!
 
 Jason
 
 On 3 September 2011 14:27, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:
 you got your hands on the Reel by Real lp yet  Jason..
 
 sounds pretty coool...
 
 I can't give a real time record review as i havent received it yet... but 
 when i do i will...
 
 p
 On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:05, ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 
 Well, not quite real time!
 
 The A side has a long and dubby (no suprise there!) mix by Johannes
 Volk - it's a bit Dubby Techno by numbers but it grows on repeated
 listening.
 
 Much more interesting is the XDB mix on the other side - kind of
 reminds me of Iz and Diz at their best or a spacey Prescription
 Underground sort of thing.
 
 Best mix for me is actually the Patrice Scott Beatless Dub - lots of
 building atmospherics and pulsing bass lines with no regular kick drum
 - really well done (only a few mins long though)
 
 
 Anyone else got anything to listen too?
 
 I'm searching around our warehouse at the moment looking for the Shake
 Shaagan Electro remix - will stick it on when I find it!
 
 I've just found a NDATL Music Institute thing on coloured vinyl - will
 give that a spin instead
 
 cheers
 
 Jason
 
 On 3 September 2011 11:06, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Undecided - will play again and report back.
 
 Is this a first?  Real time record reviews on the 313 list?  The suspense!
 
 Jason
 
 On 3 September 2011 10:39, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Will report in full when the record finishes.
 
 Jason
 
 
 
 



(313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the 
list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-)

I will start:
- Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno? 

:-))

KJ


Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Hey now watch it, we invented 'gabber' , you are on thin ice buddy :-)

On 3 sep 2011, at 02:15, Rob Taylor wrote:

 the dutch don't know shit
 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
 Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the 
 list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-)
 
 I will start:
 - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?
 
 :-))
 
 KJ
 



Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Is there a hidden message in the Red Planet records?


On 3 sep 2011, at 02:27, Fred Heutte wrote:

 Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me?
 
 fh
 
 -
 Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the 
 list, lets start
 some 90's topic all over again :-)
 
 I will start:
 - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?
 
 :-))
 
 KJ
 
 



Re: (313) Dan Sicko

2011-08-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
without words: http://www.gofundme.com/DanSicko

We will miss you

On 28 aug 2011, at 10:46, Ronny Pries wrote:

 I just realized what hospice care really means.
 
 Dismiss the last sentence i wrote before.
 
 :(
 
 What a horrible read indeed.
 
 Crossing fingers for him and hope the treatment he gets will work out for 
 good!
 Wow. Horrible to hear and read this. Thanks for letting us know here. I see 
 that donations are coming in to help with hospice care and hope that 
 continues.  Spread the news and links throughout the communities, everyone.
 
 
 
 
 On 2011-08-26, at 1:15 PM, Greg Earleea...@isolar.dyndns.org  wrote:
 
 is very, very ill.
 
 We all know how much Dan means to our community.
 
 Please ... if you can.
 
 http://www.gofundme.com/DanSicko
 
 Background: http://mattsicko.blogspot.com/
 
 ;-(
 
- Greg
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) Dan Sicko

2011-08-27 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I am also without words after this news, i think most of us who know Dan are 
all feeling the same. Also, it says something about our beloved techno scene 
that when not a famous DJ or an artists but someone who loves the music needs 
our help, we help. 

I just noticed that the fund raiser has passed the 100% limit.

Without words...

KJ


On 27 aug 2011, at 11:31, ja...@iridite.com wrote:

 I dont mind saying i shed a tear last night when I was reading the Blog.
 
 Jason
 
 On 27 August 2011 01:31,  maxphi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gutted, spreading the word.  Thank you for letting us know.
 
 m50
 
 
 At 2011.08.26 16:49, Otto wrote:
 
 It's a sign of how much he means when a bunch of Technotourists many
 timezones away, who would see Dan maybe once a year, are looking at
 their monitors stunned, shocked and saddened, as if this were
 happening to someone we'd see every week.
 
 Still at a loss for words,
 
 Otto
 PS It's heartening to see so many people contributing to Dan's care,
 please visit the site and donate if you haven't already.
 
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org
 wrote:
 is very, very ill.
 
 We all know how much Dan means to our community.
 
 Please ... if you can.
 
 http://www.gofundme.com/DanSicko
 
 Background: http://mattsicko.blogspot.com/
 
 ;-(
 
- Greg
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) A-C: Big C

2010-09-24 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

unfortunatly, he confirmed it today:

@aaroncarl: Today, the doctor diagnosed me with cancer.  They're  
testing more to figure out exactly what kind it is..  I am NOT  
accepting this!!!


http://twitter.com/aaroncarl/status/25346563071


On 24 sep 2010, at 05:57, kent williams wrote:


Last I heard was this: http://aaroncarl.blogspot.com/

I hope we can get more details, when AC is ready to talk about it.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Greg Earle  
ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
Bad news: Angie Schwendemann Linder is reporting on her FB page  
that Aaron-Carl has been diagnosed with Cancer.


Seeing all of Aaron-Carl's family backstage at the DEMF (err, Fuse- 
In) in 2005 and all wearing A-C shirts was one of my all-time  
Festival highlights.


I hope the big guy can beat it and if there are any fundraising  
efforts in his behalf, please post them here to (313).


   - Greg






Re: (313) X-102 in The Hague

2010-07-18 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

I am going...

On 17 jul 2010, at 20:34, klaus boss wrote:


Agreed - So who's going? :)
I'm ready to order my tickets.

On 17 July 2010 20:26, Tim Terpstra terpstr...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it will be very interesting how they will provide a setting  
for the
X-102 show in The Hague. The rave setting and LED screens didn't  
work out

very well at Sonar, I think TodaysArt (based on their previous
work: http://www.pablovalbuena.com/videos/the_hague_video.html)  
will provide

them with a venue and setting that will be way more suitable...


2010/7/17 klaus boss kl...@hifly.dk


Looking very good - I can live without Hawtin :), but there's plenty
of goodness to be experienced at the festival.
Conrad Schnitzler should be something out of the ordinary and X-102
performance @ Sonar looked amazing judging from the YouTube vids.


On 17 July 2010 18:10, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
Jeff  Mike are playing as X-102 at the Todays Art Festival on  
September

24th.

The rest of the line-up is not so 313 but still really good (well  
Richie


Matthew Hawtin is playing). Also already confirmed :

Alva Noto [DE]
Andy Votel [UK]
ATOM™ [DE/CL]
Burnt Friedman  Jaki Liebezeit [DE]
Byetone [DE]
Conforce [NL]
CONTAINER [DE]
Klimek  Band [PL/DE]
Lucid [NL]
Matthew Hawtin [CA]
Mika Vainio [FI]
Morphosis [LB/IT]
Nacho Patrol [NL]
Newworldaquarium [NL]
Nortec Collective presents Bostich + Fussible [MX]
Orange Sunshine [NL]
Peel Seamus [NL]
Richie Hawtin [CA/DE]
Santa Cruz [NL]
Señor Coconut And His Orchestra [DE/CL]
Unit Moebius [NL]
X-102 (Jeff Mills  Mike Banks) [US]

Cindy van Acker [CH]  Mika Vainio [FI]
Conrad Schnitzler [DE]
Gob Squad [UK/DE]
[The User] [CA/QC]




--
Regards,

Klaus B







--
Regards,

Klaus B




(313) X-102 in The Hague

2010-07-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Jeff  Mike are playing as X-102 at the Todays Art Festival on  
September 24th.


The rest of the line-up is not so 313 but still really good (well  
Richie  Matthew Hawtin is playing). Also already confirmed :


Alva Noto [DE]
Andy Votel [UK]
ATOM™ [DE/CL]
Burnt Friedman  Jaki Liebezeit [DE]
Byetone [DE]
Conforce [NL]
CONTAINER [DE]
Klimek  Band [PL/DE]
Lucid [NL]
Matthew Hawtin [CA]
Mika Vainio [FI]
Morphosis [LB/IT]
Nacho Patrol [NL]
Newworldaquarium [NL]
Nortec Collective presents Bostich + Fussible [MX]
Orange Sunshine [NL]
Peel Seamus [NL]
Richie Hawtin [CA/DE]
Santa Cruz [NL]
Señor Coconut And His Orchestra [DE/CL]
Unit Moebius [NL]
X-102 (Jeff Mills  Mike Banks) [US]

Cindy van Acker [CH]  Mika Vainio [FI]
Conrad Schnitzler [DE]
Gob Squad [UK/DE]
[The User] [CA/QC]

Re: (313) X-102 in The Hague

2010-07-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Normally i can do without Richie too (i kinda like the DJ set from  
Matthew) but this night is a collab between Minus and Rastar Noton. So  
it is kinda interesting to see what Richie, Byetone and Alva Noto are  
doing together:


http://todaysart.nl/#artist_175


On 17 jul 2010, at 20:21, klaus boss wrote:


Looking very good - I can live without Hawtin :), but there's plenty
of goodness to be experienced at the festival.
Conrad Schnitzler should be something out of the ordinary and X-102
performance @ Sonar looked amazing judging from the YouTube vids.


On 17 July 2010 18:10, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote:
Jeff  Mike are playing as X-102 at the Todays Art Festival on  
September

24th.

The rest of the line-up is not so 313 but still really good (well  
Richie 

Matthew Hawtin is playing). Also already confirmed :

Alva Noto [DE]
Andy Votel [UK]
ATOM™ [DE/CL]
Burnt Friedman  Jaki Liebezeit [DE]
Byetone [DE]
Conforce [NL]
CONTAINER [DE]
Klimek  Band [PL/DE]
Lucid [NL]
Matthew Hawtin [CA]
Mika Vainio [FI]
Morphosis [LB/IT]
Nacho Patrol [NL]
Newworldaquarium [NL]
Nortec Collective presents Bostich + Fussible [MX]
Orange Sunshine [NL]
Peel Seamus [NL]
Richie Hawtin [CA/DE]
Santa Cruz [NL]
Señor Coconut And His Orchestra [DE/CL]
Unit Moebius [NL]
X-102 (Jeff Mills  Mike Banks) [US]

Cindy van Acker [CH]  Mika Vainio [FI]
Conrad Schnitzler [DE]
Gob Squad [UK/DE]
[The User] [CA/QC]




--
Regards,

Klaus B




Re: (313) string synth sound

2010-07-13 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Okay, i wanna see some hands here.. Who knew it was time-travel day  
today but failed to inform me about it? A discussion about Mills on  
313 AND post from Bill van Loo and Mike Taylor on 313?


What is next, Dave Walker and Ed  Luna in a discussion about Drexciya?

Anyway, i heard a similar Mills setup from someone close to Jeff (and  
i mean the things Mike mentioned). I cant remember it exactly.


Good to see you all on 313 again!


On 13 jul 2010, at 19:31, Mike Taylor wrote:


Not to pick knits, but the QX21 IS a sequencer.

m

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote:


Mike Taylor wrote:


If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha
QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an
early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one).




Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly  You  
can't forget
those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one  
isn't using

a computer.
He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :)

I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one  
of the

early EP's is just mainly  a 909, Microwave I and a Delay.
It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote  
existed, so

I don't have a backup of that page... :(

Cheers,
Dave





Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau

2010-06-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
And i totally agree to all of Kent his points! I heard so many diva- 
like stories about Booka Shade that i was just being curious about  
their demands. Yeah.. i think i am gonna start calling Booka Shade  
technodiva's, that or i just just BS :-)


Anyone up for registering technodivas.org?


On 5 jun 2010, at 07:41, kent williams wrote:


That would be me.

1) Thanks (as always) for the photos Fred.
2) Booka Shade are famous for being demanding c*nts. No controversy  
there.

3) If anyone cares, Fred is a swell guy.
4) If anyone cares, Gen P Orridge is completely bonkers. Independent  
of Fred's opinion of him.

5) This thread will die of it's own free will.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:46 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
not sure who the admin is on this list, but this thread should be  
CLOSED.






Re: (313) Acid Didj @ Paxahau

2010-06-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Call me curious but i want to know the story behind this comment:

Well, once again I didn't get a nice foto portrait of DELIA because  
she was too busy dealing with those douchebags BOOKA SHADE. I've never  
even heard their music and I can't stand them. I despise high- 
maintenance artists that think the world revolves around them.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/4666548756/in/set-72157624071321055/


On 4 jun 2010, at 16:04, telepat...@comcast.net wrote:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/sets/72157624071321055/


I can hear Tom Cox complaining already

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist




Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Ok little late on this but i am catching up on my e-mail.

Last time i heard Robert Hood play was really, really, really horrible  
i was pissed all night just hearing him play. I think he doesnt live  
in Minimal Nation any more and some should do a Coup d'état there very  
quickly if there is anything to be saved.


If Inner City live is anything like their first performance at the  
DEMF/Movement or whatever you seriously do not want to miss it. They  
had a full-on band on stage (including backing vocals). It was raining  
like crazy but Hart Plaza was loaded and the show started with Kevin  
shouting One nation under a technogroove and 5000 people going crazy  
and shouting along. That show was top notch and it was one of the best  
(techno) live-acts i have ever seen, period. (Any one who was there  
and disagrees needs professional help)



On 24 mei 2010, at 16:03, kent williams wrote:


Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
May plays everywhere all the time.

Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
Hood is unique.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe- 
ebola.com wrote:

http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.





Re: (313) RA: An oral history of the DEMF

2010-05-18 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Get to work Kent! :-)



On 18 mei 2010, at 21:42, regis...@gnomonschool.com wrote:

Thank you for your email and interest in Gnomon School of Visual  
Effects.


We are in registration for the Spring 2010 term.  The term begins  
the week of April 5th and runs through June 13th.


Should you have any questions regarding the school or registering  
for classes, please contact us at 323-466-6663.







Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.

2010-04-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
It is called Techno Rebels, not minimal rebels :-) minimal and  
rebels... hmmm


insert joke about that pretentious m_nus records here



On 2 apr 2010, at 16:58, ohanakin ... wrote:


I really hope theres nothing about brooklyn minimal.  we're talkin
about rebels right?

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM,  mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dan has a blog out on the www somewhere, and he mostly mentioned  
adding some stuff from the last 10 years.  The small discography at  
the back was to be updated as well.  I haven't seen the 2nd  
edition, so I am not sure what it looks like though.


Jeff
--Original Message--
From: jwan allen
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
Sent: Apr 1, 2010 9:58 AM

Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in
this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the
first go round, just getting old I guess.  The comment on Amazon are
quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he  
didn't

include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless
to say those readers are missing the point.

jw

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain
mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote:


If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change  
that. I wonder what's new?


http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels

robin...




--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com
aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com





--
Technoir Audio
http://www.technoiraudio.com
dealing with your imperfect world


Sent via BlackBerry by ATT




Re: (313) DEMF line-up

2010-03-13 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Yes it was already posted and we also already had the annual Richie  
bashing party ;-)


And you missed it all ;-)

On 13 mrt 2010, at 12:52, anth...@technoiraudio.com wrote:


Sorry if this has been posted. Looks great so far!!


http://www.urb.com/2010/03/10/movement-detroit-line-up-plastikman-model-500-inner-city/






Re: (313) Octave One/MS-10

2010-03-12 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
That Direct Beat release is from Lorne Burden, the youngest of the  
Burden brothers (damn they are The Jacksons of techno ;-)). He also  
released as Kaotic Special Rhythm.


I think that the new Octave One is banging, it reminded me a lot of  
Empower and their early work.



On 12 mrt 2010, at 21:38, chesterm...@googlemail.com wrote:

Who is munchman?  I've got a couple of wicked records on directbeat  
by him


--Original Message--
From: Matt Kane's Brain
To: Odeluga, Ken
Cc: 313 Mailinglist List
Sent: 12 Mar 2010 19:36
Subject: Re: (313) Octave One/MS-10

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 13:09, Odeluga, Ken  
ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote:

http://430west.com/ms10/


Found thereon: Published by Munchman Music/BMI © 2010 Munchman Music

Munchman? This Munchman? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munch_Man

--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com
aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device




Re: (313) Partial DEMF lineup

2010-03-10 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Richie uses 3 Jazzmutant lemurs, Max 4 Live and made with  the  
Touchdesigner 077 software... at least that  is what i heard (and  
Ableton Live of course)


KJ


On 10 mrt 2010, at 16:26, kent williams wrote:


Hah, so he's putting something together using Ableton Live, Max For
Live AND Plogue Bidule.  And he wants to control the video along with
the audio.

Nothing could ever go wrong with that -- outdoors, at night with
possible weather complications, right?

Was I the only one who got the e-mail from Minus saying Hey video
artists -- send us your work to use in our live show! For free! ?

I'm all for cutting edge technology and trying new things, but I'd
have to say that very little that Richie does moves me.  He puts
together these complicated Inspector Gadget setups and then ...
unleashes hours of boring techno too mnml for vowels.

Give me a good DJ with a record box and a mixer with no effects any  
day.




On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Martijn de Blaauw
martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote:
Let me be the first to predict that there will be technical  
difficulties

that delay the start of the Plastikman set.

Well he is rehearsing, Check the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkJEOsDyV0 (Plastikman Teknik  
Rehearsal,

March 1-4, Mannheim, Germany)





Re: (313) message from Dale Lawrence

2010-03-09 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Thanks Kent,

I was just running to some old music and found a couple of old Theorem  
records. They all still sounded really fresh to me, he should be  
releasing that new stuff :D


KJ

On 5 mrt 2010, at 19:51, kent williams wrote:


... repeated with permission

Your name came up on the 313 list ...


Why would they do that?  I haven't released anything since 2001! Of
course, I am glad to hear that. :-)

I've been writing music on and off and working a lot of hours doing
web development at my current job for the past few years.  In 2006 I
made an entire album but ended up not doing anything with it.  I ran
out of energy after working so hard on it until 2008 when I made
another batch of tracks.

I think one is on my myspace page called Amine.  Then I took another
break until just a few weeks ago because I became intensely concerned
and vocal about the politics here in the US.  I updated some software,
have been working on a track for the past week, and just got a new
subwoofer two days ago.  I have no clue what I'll do with any of it
and am doing it more with a feeling of curiosity, thinking What kind
of music would I be making if I started right now? and basically
daydreaming (nightdreaming?) and playing with sounds like I used to.
That's usually when I write my best work, when I don't have a purpose
and it just happens.

So if you want to keep up with Dale, facebook friend him.




(313) Wladimir M. is back

2010-03-09 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Hi all,

Just wanted to announce that we just released a new EevoNext and we  
are bringing back the dead (well a figure of speech, he is still very  
much alive ;-)) this time:


Wladimir M. - Electronic Muzique

With a remix from yours trully, electronic muzique is running through  
my mind, is it running through yours as well? For sound clips, check  
the eevolute website:


http://www.eevolute.com/release/electronic-muzique.html

Feedback is very much appreciated!
Thanks,

KJ


(313) What ever happened to....

2010-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Well it is Friday, listening to some old albums and wondered:

What ever happened to Theorem?

Is he still releasing music or has gone completely of the musical  
radar or just my musical radar?


Re: (313) DJ Agents / Agencies

2010-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Well i am a producer and in the almost 20 years i am making music, i  
came to the following conclusion:


Booking agencies are evil.

I tried to avoid them as much as i could, all the times i had to deal  
with them i ended arranging stuff myself because they just did it  
wrong or flat out forgot about it. I know that a couple of high  
profile artists always managed to live without them. I personally just  
cant handle them i find them a waste of money or resources.



On 3 mrt 2010, at 23:24, Frank Glazer wrote:


i'd be interested in this kind of info too.  it's rough out there for
a (non-producing) dj

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote:

Good Evening List

Suppose one wanted to raise ones profile a bit and possibly do a  
few more gigs in slightly more exotic locations around our  
continent.


Whats the deal with agents / agencies.

Having perused the www for a bit, my conclusions are that there are  
alot of 'DJ' agencies set up for bedroom dj's in macclesfield who  
want their own residency in eyebeefa, or sign up for 200 quid and  
you're guaranteed a slot at Fernando's on a Friday night.


Is it a case of they'll find you when they think you are a viable  
option or ?


Do they have an exclusive right on all your gigs ?

I know a couple of people with them and they take a cut when they  
get you a booking.  That seems fair enough to me but no other fees  
take place.. do they.


Just mulling things over.as I'm sure there are agents and  
artists with some helpful input on here.


P

---

Playing

12/03/10 - BLOC
20/03/10 - DPS - Leyland Hotel - Detroit
09/04/10 - under_score w/ Lakuti

Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net

Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid

Placid's Gigs and Gigography - 
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688

Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm /  
purple-radio.co.uk 2nd Wednesday of the month








--
peace,

frank

dj mix archive:  http://www.deejaycountzero.com




Re: (313) food for thought -- new blood?

2010-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Not really strictly techno but Jimmy Edgar is still young, he made  
some great tunes.



On 3 mrt 2010, at 16:26, Denise Dalphond wrote:


Yes! Seth! Absolutely.

Geographical boundaries and music - so interesting. :)



Well maybe you are Denise! :)

But only if you want to include someone from nearby rather than  
from the city...


Seth Troxler is from Kalamazoo. He will be twenty three in a few  
weeks, according to this:


http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?887





--
Denise Dalphond
Ph.D. Candidate
Department of Folklore  Ethnomusicology
Indiana University
http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/




Re: (313) What ever happened to....

2010-03-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
He used to be on 313 back in 'ye old days, when dragons wandered  
around the world and noble knights battled for the beautiful princess.  
I think i met him a couple of times at 313 parties in detroit.


But it would be cool to see some of his music out on a label again.

KJ


On 5 mrt 2010, at 11:06, Rob wrote:


KJ wrote:


Well it is Friday, listening to some old albums and wondered:

What ever happened to Theorem?

Is he still releasing music or has gone completely of the musical
radar or just my musical radar?


I'm (fairly) sure that Dale used to be active on 313... though it's  
a *long*
time (maybe 10 years) since I remember him posting.  Maybe he still  
lurks,
or someone who semi-lurks and knew him back then (Sicko, MacQueen,  
Ian M,

Bill van Loo???) knows where he is now?

Must dig-out Ion.



Rob






Re: (313) my musical selections for 2009

2009-12-31 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Well here is a random selection of things i liked this year:

Clark - Totems Flare (Warp)
Jon Hopkins - Insides (Double Six Recordings)
The Hasbeens - You  Me (Clone West Coast Series)
Future Beat Alliance - Patience  Distance (EevoNext)
Marco Bernardi - Switches, Drawers and Washing Machines (Frustrated Funk)
Olafur Arnalds - Dyad 1909 (Erased Tapes Records)
Telefon Tel Aviv - Immolate Yourself (BPitch Control)
Clark, DMX Krew  Otto von Schirach live at Gogbot Enschede 
Aril Brikha  Nathan Fake live in Eibergen, Free your mind festival.
My Lemur control surface :D


On Wednesday, December 30, 2009, at 09:32PM, Max  Mark e...@madicoinc.com 
wrote:
ok so here is some of the stuff i liked in 2009
i was not eable to make a specific ''top 10'' kind of thing
so i decided to make a list of the music, artists, djs, labels, etc 
that i think deserve to be mentioned, people  music that i enjoyed
listening to.. 
now i know ill be forgetting alot of good stuff but anyway, 
it goes like this, (in no special order) : 


---
dj-mixes / live pa / radio show / pod-casts
---

2'over:clockers - dialtone pod cast episode one
dl : http://www.dialtonerecs.blogspot.com/

dj laika - event orizon
dl : http://www.soundcloud.com/laikainithaca

elektrosandy - pertin-nce show vol.06
dl : http://www.pertin-nce.com/releases/pertin-nce_show_6.mp3

hemiptera - orange saline  night bleeds day
dl : http://www.archive.org/details/hemiptera_vol01

anton banks - the vault (radio show)
dl : http://www.antonbanks.com/index.html

digital nimbus (radio show)
dl : http://digitalnimbus.com/playlists/

David Siska - Emotions Unknown
dl : http://sonicsunset.com

tristan watkins - antinomy vol. 1, 2, 3 
dl : http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/?page_id=359

dj maus - Thoughtless Transmission 007.1  
dl : http://thoughtlessmusic.com/transmissions/TLTM007-1_DJMaus.mp3

andrew duke in the mix : 
dl : http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html

Octex live @ Flussi festival + live @ kino siska
dl : http://blogs.myspace.com/octex
 
---
EP / LP
---

[exp051] nigel samways - veilleur de nuit 
free dl at : http://www.experimedia.net/index.php?main_page=free

[BP045] Megatone - Underwater Luminescence
free DL at : http://www.archive.org/details/bp045

[der003] Various Artists - Cotton Dragon's Eye Second Anniversary
buy cd at : http://www.dragonseyerecordings.com/catalogue-der/der003.html
(this is a 2007 release but i discover the label this year) 

[MND009] Offtopic - Half Full Empty 
free DL at : www.minordust.co.uk

[norbu13] nemecek - somebody's watching me
free DL at : http://www.archive.org/details/norbu13

[Tropic 54] D.Soul - Vibrating Souls ep
free DL at : http://www.tropic-netlabel.de/releases/tropic-54

[HJRCD45] Moritz Von Oswald Trio - Vertical Ascent (on Honest Jon's Records)
(on Honest Jon's Records) buy on beatport at : 
https://www.beatport.com/fr-FR/html/content/release/detail/177679/Vertical%2
0Ascent

[MMM049] Le Chat Blanc Orchestra - Ste-Claire Hotel
http://www.discogs.com/Le-Chat-Blanc-Orchestra-Ste-Claire-Hotel/release/1595
453
http://www.myspace.com/lechatblancorchestra
(this is a 2008 release, but i just bought it and also i saw them playing
live 
3 weeks ago similar tracks from the album and it was great...)

[miniatura031] Sven Laux - Hoy  Monk EP + remixes
free DL at : http://www.miniaturarecords.net/netreleases_miniatura031.html

Erdbeerschnitzel - Pathetik Party LP (((self released)))
http://www.blockstoff.de/pathetikparty.php

[GIDG-17] Kate Simko - Music from The Atom Smashers
http://ghostly.com/releases/music-from-the-atom-smashers

--
quebec city heroes
--

M.I.M  DEZ-1 (a.k.a electrique dj's / music  friends, audio club) 
for their weekly evenings  constant efforts to promote EM in QC...

Saul-B - owner of kickroach records, great dj  producer
i really enjoy his mixes... 
http://www.kickroach.com/en.htm
http://www.myspace.com/kickroach

Pascal asselin (a.k.a millimetrik (and many others)) 
owner of chat blanc records, involved in many projects and bands..
http://www.myspace.com/millimetrik


artists  labels that rocked 2009


experimedia - (label, music shop, free releases, etc.. its all in there)
http://www.experimedia.net 

hemiptera - (dynamic minimal techno duo)
http://www.myspace.com/hemiptera)

dialtone - (great techno-house net label / pod casts / hard working label
team)
http://www.dialtonerecs.com

sven laux - (duby house / minimalism experimentations... a very productive
artist)
http://www.myspace.com/svenlaux

megatone - (amazing ambient, experimental, drone music producer,)
http://www.myspace.com/httpwwwmegatonecom


peace out !

max / www.pertin-nce.com





(313) Yay! My new album is finally released!

2009-11-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Hi All,

So after 15 years of making music i decided it was about time to make  
an album. I took some time but i finally did it. Lots of melodies,  
lots of detroit, lots of techno, lots of electro and no minimal in  
sight ;-)


It is releases on EevoNext of course. Soundbites are located here:
http://www.eevolute.com/release/mbius-strip.html

I hope you like it!

KJ



Re: (313) blamstrain digital catalog pay-what-you-want

2009-10-14 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
yeah the signal-to-noise ratio was extremely high at IDM. I tried  
subscribing there a couple of times but unsubbed within weeks.



On 12 okt 2009, at 21:14, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote:


IDM was getting quite out of hand for a v long time.

I could only bear so much of what is IDM posts.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:05 AM, kent williams  
chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:

Juho posted about this on IDM but it bears mentioning here.  The
Exosphere release this year is in fact very musical, tough techno,
probably more appropriate fodder for the 313 list than the IDM list.

http://blamstrain.bandcamp.com/

As a side note -- if you stayed on 313 but ditched IDM, it's maybe
time to come back -- it's become a fairly low volume, low noise list,
with only the occasional hilarious flamefest.





--
kuszyn...@gmail.com
www.planerecordings.com
New York, NY




(313) EevoNext presents Alemo - Future Veterans

2009-09-23 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Out now through you favorite digital channel:

Alemo - Future Veterans

Alemo started as one-song project inspired by an absolute soulless  
Veteran's day celebration in an East-Holland city. Dutch Producers  
Terrace  The Moderator witnessed the event and decided to become  
'Future Veterans'. This first song had such a solid drive that it  
inspired them do produce more and more and more of them. Together they  
worked on material resulting in this first EP with lots more to come.  
Their style is a bizarre combination of Detroit techno, some anthem  
trance elements and a rock steady bassline. Celebrating 20 years of  
house music experience combining this with the latest techniques.


year: 2009
label: EevoNext Recordings
producer: Klaas-Jan Jongsma  Stefan Robbers
catalogid: NEXT13

Sound bites are here: http://www.eevolute.com/release/future-veterans.html


Up next: The Moderator (full album, Tim Wolff and a new Waldimir M.


Re: (313) Q-Moog

2009-09-19 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Oh yeah! I almost forgot about that record, that album was amazing.  
Mirabella is so brilliant with that hypnotizing vocal in it Cuba,  
cuba, cuba energy. I wonder what happened to him as well. This album  
is the only record i have of Green.


KJ


On 19 sep 2009, at 16:04, Rob wrote:

Just listening to Q-Moog The Arc of Blueness for the first time in  
years,

a bit of a lost gem imho.  Anyone know what became of Green?



Rob






Re: (313) beatportal 20 tracks every techno fan should know

2009-09-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Ah found it! Long live archives, here are the results from  
waayy back (damn twoplayer, almost forgot all about that):


-Original Message-
From: marsel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:00 PM
To: nort-tedra.net; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] all time 313 tops
|
detroit fives | first results | 2001.07.31
one hundred and nine top fives entered
five hundred and forty three songs counted
|
songs top fifteen
18 - carl craig - at les  (buzz/planet e)
15 - rhythim is rhythim - icon (buzz/transmat)
13 - 69 - desire (infonet/planet e)
12 - rhythim is rhythim - it is what it is (transmat)
12 - underground resistance - journey of the dragon (ur)
11 - model 500 - night drive (metroplex)
11 - model 500 - no ufo's (metroplex)
10 - underground resistance - hi tech jazz (ur)
09 - underground resistance - jupiter jazz (ur)
08 - r tyme - r theme (transmat)
07 - underground resistance - final frontier (ur)
07 - rhythim is rhythim - strings of life(transmat)
06 - infiniti - game one (metroplex)
06 - underground resistance - illuminator(ur)
06 - kenny larkin - tedra (warp)

labels top fifteen
85 - underground resistance
80 - transmat
48 - planet e
46 - metroplex
36 - buzz
20 - kms
16 - rs
15 - axis
14 - red planet
13 - incognito
11 - warp
10 - 430 west
10 - tresor
08 - express
08 - fragile

producers top fifteen
80 - carl craig
79 - juan atkins
65 - underground resistance
64 - derrick may
21 - kevin saunderson
20 - drexciya
18 - kenny larkin
15 - jeff mills
14 - robert hood
14 - 'red planet'
11 - burden brothers
10 - james pennington
09 - blake baxter
09 - anthony shakir
07 - rolando

carl craig top six
17 - at les
13 - desire
03 - from beyond
03 - ladies  gentlemen
02 - [ten different tracks]
01 - [twenty four different tracks]

more to come

http://www.twoplayer.org/
http://www.forcefield.org/

thank you all for your contribution!
transmission on http://nortroute.net soon







On 8 sep 2009, at 22:20, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:



On 8 sep 2009, at 20:11, kent williams wrote:


http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/

Let the beatport hating  begin ;-)


Oh hating beatport, now come on Kent, give me a real challenge ;-) I  
dont think my personal views on beatport will pass the 313 language  
filters ;-)


We used to have a 313 top X online at the old forcefield.org  
website... hello you in here Marsel? ;-)



KJ





Re: (313) beatportal 20 tracks every techno fan should know

2009-09-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 8 sep 2009, at 20:11, kent williams wrote:


http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/

Let the beatport hating  begin ;-)


Oh hating beatport, now come on Kent, give me a real challenge ;-) I  
dont think my personal views on beatport will pass the 313 language  
filters ;-)


We used to have a 313 top X online at the old forcefield.org  
website... hello you in here Marsel? ;-)



KJ



(313) Future Beat Alliance out now

2009-09-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Well it is out for a while now, but i have been late posting it due to  
a holliday (damn them).  The new Future Beat Alliance is out now on  
EevoNext, digital download for now, the CD will be out sometime later.


Expect lush strings ;-)


Info:

Future Beat Alliance aka Matthew Puffett proudly presents his third  
full length album, the first one on the EevoNext recordings imprint.  
Patience and distance refers to getting from A to B in the best  
possible way in a bad situation, trying to control anxiety and fears.  
The featured tracks reflect on that, most of them being recorded in an  
impulse to capture the moment, after long lost weekends in the city.  
In essence,they form therapy sessions to recover from the big city  
stress. Having worked an average day or 2 on each track, it still took  
a few years to compile everything into this excellent album. Some  
highlights: The title track 'Patience and distance' has calm, yet  
exciting feel to it, transmitting peace and relaxation. 'Eremin 5'  
beautifully transforms from an ambient piece into a complex pattern of  
rhythm, sequences and chord pads that make you feel all shiny and new.  
'Without words' makes you think about the world and it's complexities,  
and 'Calculated notes' resembles the energy from the city travels  
after which it was created.



Listen at:

http://www.eevolute.com/release/patience-and-distance.html


Re: (313) DJ Bone denied entry into UK

2009-08-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Weird story, the post did not mention what the reason was for british  
immigration to deny him access. I mean i don't think they randomly  
deny people access just for fun. Anyone know what that reason was?


KJ


On 17 aug 2009, at 07:06, kent williams wrote:


News from Ahne about DJ Bone's ridiculous experience with British
immigration...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114649423281




Re: (313) DJ Bone denied entry into UK

2009-08-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
There was this dutch couple last year (or 2 years ago) who went on an  
extended vacation and went from cost to cost to the US. They were  
stupid enough te let their tourist visa expired. So they got pulled  
over by some highway patrol and he noticed that is expired, he arrests  
the couple and they end up in jail due to something in that Homeland  
Security thingie they have in the US. They got out 3 months later...


I had my experiences as well with US immigrations, being shouted at  
and humilliated just for picking up a bag without that Immigration  
officer saying i could, trying to turn on a laptop when an immigration  
officer asked me if it could be turned on (how the hell could i know  
she wanted to do that). I have heard tons of stories like mine from  
friends and colleagues who went to the US.


Oh yeah and after all this you always immediatly pass a big sign  
saying welcome to the united states of america, they sure know their  
sarcasm ;-)




On 17 aug 2009, at 19:53, Matt Chester wrote:


This is a good point - whereas pre 2001 if you managed to get away
with it once but got pulled up another time they would tend to be
lenient, these days if they get the slightest whiff that you'd broken
the rules in the past they will have no second thoughts about denying
you entry on a permanent basis.
A friend of mine who's a visual artist lived in NYC for 10 years on a
legit visa, but recently had some irregularity on a tourist visa to go
back there, and in the process they found that she had overstayed her
work visa previously by 5 days - she is now barred from getting a
working visa for the US for life.



 If you're going to play internationally, you pretty much

have to follow the rules, because they WILL catch up with you
eventually, and they usually get really upset if they realize you've
been working in their country without a visa and getting away with  
it.




--
matt chester
11th hour recordings
matt-chester.com
myspace.com/mattchester1




Re: (313) dj bone

2009-08-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
He probably mentioned that he wanted to go to a party where his good  
friend Aril Brikha who was born in Iran was playing. And to make it a  
special party who bought some brand new records from this store called  
Submerge from a group called Underground Resistance ;-)


KJ


PS. above actually did happen to someone who visited submerge when he  
had a stop-over in Detroit ;-)
Oh do i really have to say that he did made it to his flight but got a  
nice little chat with airport security for about 5 hours ;-)


On 17 aug 2009, at 20:00, jdmo...@frontiernet.net wrote:

id be curious to hear direct form bone what the interview entailed  
in terms of line(s) of questioning because if i didnt know any  
better id say that being black and from the city with the highest  
muslim population in the country, let alone trying to get in on an  
artists visa if one was acquired, fits a known profile and was the  
mitigating factor in this experience.


im not saying its right or wrong, im just saying...





RE: (313) ping

2009-08-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Well yeah i kinda enjoyed the next discussion :-) 

On Thursday, 06 August, 2009, at 01:06PM, fran...@thatamazingthing.com wrote:
It is Thursday, have you beamed yourself into the future?

If last Thursday is referred to there have been plenty posts since then.


 From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk]
 Sent: 06 August 2009 12:03
 
 Ive not heard anything since thursday. Are we still here.





Re: (313) friday

2009-07-31 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Yeah i heard those rumors about a Transmat restart too ;-)

GPR? They have released some great music but also i heard why Black  
Dog called there last album Temple of Transparent Balls the way they  
did ;-)



On 31 jul 2009, at 10:40, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:



possible transmat restart?
gpr restart? http://www.myspace.com/gpronline
69 box prices?
these shirts?
http://www.carhartt-streetwear.com/products/fw09/mens/tshirts/O444223
http://www.carhartt-streetwear.com/products/fw09/mens/tshirts/U359223




Re: (313) 15 years

2009-06-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

and for some ancient history here is the first post to 313 from Morgan:

http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/

Who was the first subscriber i think? followed by Hans Veneman and  
Dave Walker if my memory is still ok ;-)

I am on here since 1994/1995 can't remember...


On 6 jun 2009, at 03:03, diana potts wrote:



Congrats- you're the oldest 313 dork :) kidding!

I've been here the same as Robin, since 1995? 1996?

Long live the elders!
Diana

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote:


From: robin ro...@fivetones.org
Subject: Re: (313) 15 years
To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com
Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 7:41 AM

I think that beats me. I've been on here since 1995 I think
(as rob...@chem.leeds.ac.uk,
originally).

Congrats Marsel! :)

robin...

On 5 Jun 2009, at 12:30, kent williams wrote:


It means you're eligible to be in the grizzled elder

pictures from DEMF:

http://tinyurl.com/pknn5s

Since the list was started in 1994, you must be one of

the OG 313'ers.


On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Marsel van der
Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net

wrote:


i suddenly realized i'm almost 15 years subscribed

to this list

did i win any? 313 watch?













(313) Florence Wladimir M. - The vineyard Evil remixes

2009-05-21 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Hi,

Some of you might find this somewhat interesting. We let a bunch of  
friends remix the first 2 eevolute releases. Some of the remixers are  
Arne Weinberg, Beat Pharmacy, Baby Ford, Convextion and Mark Archer  
from Nexus 21/Altern8 fame.


I hope you enjoy:
---
http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=97


Florence  Wladimir M. - The vineyard  Evil remixes

We proudly present the first full album release on EevoNext  
Recordings. It is the perfect bridge between the past and the future,  
this being an excellent remix album of two classics on the label.  
Florence's 'US heritage' and Wladimir M.'s 'As the leaves fall' were  
restored and remastered last year and released on vinyl and digitally.  
We retrieved some of the original music parts, supplied them to an  
international group of friends and producers we admire, and they came  
up with 10 excellent remixes of the tracks 'Evil' and 'The Vineyard'.  
The melancholy and vocals inspired the remixers to produce a wide  
range of great music to listen and dance to. We also found an  
unreleased remix by Peter Ford we restored, remastered and added to  
sum this album up. Featured are dub master Brendon Moeller aka Beat  
Pharmacy, NewScottsMan Mr. Arne Weinberg, EevoNext member The  
Moderator, Dutch techno heroes Duplex, Barcelona man Dave Tarrida,  
London's Justin Berkovi, deep Germans Neurotron, Ravemaster 'Altern8  
aka Nexus21' Mark Archer, Peter 'Baby' Ford and lone islanders 'Skye  
Radio' who close in true dubstyle.


The original recordings for these tracks were made in 1991. First  
vinyls appeared soon after, but only last year, in 2008, a limited  
edition of remastered editions was done. Florence is an alter ego of  
label founder and musician Terrace aka Stefan Robbers. When originally  
released, Florence started where Terrace stopped with an approach that  
electronic music can not only be danced upon, but also be listened  
too. Taking American dance music as a start, the results represent a  
kind of evolution that explains that everybody has qualities inside,  
just one should try to explore them. Wladimir M. founded Eevo Lute  
Muzique together with his friend Stefan Robbers. He was sometimes  
described as the conscience of the label and its artists, something he  
expresses in poems, lyrics and art. He is also an active visual artist  
and creates urban on locations you wouldn't expect. Together with  
music producer Stefan Robbers he created this and many other  
electronic compositions, where the influence of great minds is taken  
into a new, unexplainable direction.


Tracklist:

• Florence - The vineyard (Beat Pharmacy dub):
• Florence - The vineyard (Arne Weinberg remix):
• Wladimir M. - Evil (The Moderator Remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Convextion remix):
• Wladimir M. - Evil (Duplex remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Dave Tarrida remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Justin Berkovi dark remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Neurotron remix):
• Wladimir M. - The vineyard (Mark Archer remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Peter Ford's from the vault remix):
• Florence - The vineyard (Skye Radio remix):

Soundbits can be found here:
http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=97

Re: (313) Mr Hoods - Minimal Nation 3 x 12

2009-05-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

and speaking of Minimal Nation for those of you who are going to Sonar:

EPM  Phonomonkey
presents...
ROBERT HOOD'S MINIMAL NATION
release party
@ Nitsa, Barcelona (during Sonar)
on Thursday 18 June
feat.
ROBERT HOOD
BEN KLOCK
JAMES RUSKIN
DETROIT GRAND PUBAHS DJ SET (Mr 0)


On 7 mei 2009, at 16:46, gavin morrissey wrote:


£22 is pretty good value then :)



On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM, ja...@iridite.com  
ja...@iridite.com wrote:

Flippin heck!  Yus, all vinyl copies are triple white vinyl AND they
come with a CD version of the Album too!  AND the CD version has a
Hood Mix:

Features a bonus CD: “Minimal Nation mix” by Robert Hood features
tracks in the album + excerpts from the following:

Stereotype

Darkroom (From Nighttime World Vol.2)

The Core (From Internal Empire U.S. EP)

The Protein Valve

Externus Oblique (From Movable Parts Ch.2)

Strativarius (The Puppeteer, Movable Parts Ch.2)

Needs and Wants (From HoodMusic 3)

...And then we planned our escape (From HoodMusic 3)

Sheesh- that's a hottie!!!

Jason





2009/5/7 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com:


On 7 May 2009, at 09:33, ja...@iridite.com wrote:

Think it's due with us end of next week - it's not a limited  
release

so it should be easy enough to pick up in Europe/UK

cheers

Jason



Are they all Triple and in white vinyl Jason?

m







Re: (313) More music from Detroit....

2009-05-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Kerohand is a collaboration between K Hand and Kero (who also did  
something for Detroit Underground i think?)  :-)


On 8 mei 2009, at 10:48, ja...@iridite.com wrote:


K Hand is back!  New thing on Acacia called Silent Answer EP, a new
one on Gorsh (I've never heard of them before), a new one on Kerohand
(her new label I assume)  AND a great Electro 12 done with one of the
Detroit Underground guys- most unlike her other output it has to be
said!  That's 4 records in one week.

There's a Norm Talley 10 on 3rd Ear which has a nice (if not entirely
original sounding) old school disco sample track on one side and a
simple but effective house jam on the other.

Those new Delsin 12's are fantastic too- Steve Rachmad remix one is
excellent (not quite Detroit but near enough)

cheers

Jason




Re: (313) New Music

2009-04-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Woahaa! There is a Martyn album out? I missed that, thanks Jason...

KJ


On 17 apr 2009, at 20:44, ja...@iridite.com wrote:


Yeah, that Droid thing is floating my boat too - the 1st release on
this off-shoot was pretty good too and in a similar vein.  New Martyn
album is good (Great Lengths on his 3024 label).  There some nice raw
early Chicago action on Let's Pet Puppies (Jody Finch - not heard of
him/her before) and what's peoples' thoughts on the Henrich
Muller-Rice mix of the new Rustie thing on Wireblock?

cheers

Jason

2009/4/17 robin ro...@fivetones.org:


On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:36, Placid wrote:


Cheers Robin...

Current faves here

Idjut boys - Droid 2
Jody Finch - Whistle Worm ad Jack your big booty on Lets Pet Puppies


Nice. Choice acid as usual P. Surprised by that Idjut Boys thing -  
I'd

written them off as nu-disco :)


Marcus Intalex - Four Three Three


I like small doses of dubstep. This is an interesting take.

btw. forgot to add that Henrik Schwarz is releasing some  
interesting tracks
recently. He went a bit formulaic for me but I like the recent  
treatments
he's done for old vocals and his instrumentation on the Sunburst  
Band remix,
that Omar/Stevie Wonder track and the Detroit experiment remix he  
did (the

less techy one with the sax).

Speaking of saxes in techno tunes, Mike de Vellis' 'Alkaline Metal'
(Moodymanc sax dub) is a killer tune. Like Garnier's  'The man with  
the red

face' but with a twist. Yeah I know, Moodymanc's name is stoopid.

robin...





(313) Some AW news

2009-04-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Some news from Arne Weinberg some of you might like:
---
Another thing to look forward to: I am happy to announce a new 12 by  
Optic Nerve aka Keith Tucker, one half of the famous electro group AUX  
88. I can assure you that the tracks he delivered are pure funky and  
hot Detroit techno stuff, great for the dancefloor.
Also in progress is the return of mighty techno don Gerard Hanson aka  
Convextion. I hope to be able to tell more about that soon. I think we  
can expect more spaced out dub styled futuristic techno from him.



Regarding the author of this newsletter, I am working on my liveact  
finally. Yes, I did it, and I am happy to tell you that I will be  
available for livegigs after the summer. I am planning to offer a Arne  
Weinberg live set and also a liveact under my alias Onmutu Mechanicks  
(new 12 on Echocord Colour just released) that will focus more on the  
dubby side of things.
If you're interested in booking me or know someone who is, please  
don't hesitate to contact me under

book...@aw-recordings.com.


Re: (313) more demf performers announced

2009-03-26 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Woahaa! This is my WTF moment of this morning: Marc “MK” Kinchen   
Scotty Deep - live!


More interesting names: Octave One, Kevin Reynolds, Francois K., Will  
Webb, Pereception:

http://www.paxahau.com/p4x4hau/index.php

Oh yeah and lil carl coxie and prodigy... blahaabla...


On 26 mrt 2009, at 01:27, /0 wrote:


pass.




Re: (313) Today is very special!

2009-03-13 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
And if you are really nerdy you would also know that today is also the  
birthday of the world-wide-web:

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/3/13/world-wide-web-20-years-old-today/

Oh and that of Linux (well kinda, if you count version 1.0 as the  
first one):

http://i.gizmodo.com/5169216/happy-15th-birthday-linux

KJ


On 13 mrt 2009, at 09:15, swei...@gmx.com wrote:


It's 313 day (2009-3-13).


This is absolutely no off-topic, but anyhow... scnr


deep regards,
Stefan - Berlin / Germany




Re: (313) Closure of the Clone record label

2009-01-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

I hope so! That URL makes more sense then fit-records ;-)

KJ


On 28 jan 2009, at 19:58, Southern Outpost wrote:


I think you mean: http://www.fitdetroit.com/

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com  
wrote:
The truth is, I suspect none of us outside of Clone can actually  
know

the complete reasons for sure - but maybe you definitely do? If so,
please excuse me.


I think it's pretty clear from their message what's going on. It's a
pretty long message. They don't leave many questions unanswered. I
talk to those guys pretty often too.

Speculate on this! : There's a new distrib company in Detroit, Fit
Records-- http://fitrecords.com ; their website is very similar to
Clone's. They are Clone's USA liaison for freight shipments. Good
stuff





(313) EevoNext presents: Tim Wolff - Sostenuto EP

2009-01-22 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

File under: -Shameless promotion-
---

For more info check: http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=95

year: 2009
label: EevoNext Recordings
producer: Tim Wolff
catalogid: NEXT08

'Sostenuto' is the debut release of Amsterdam based producer and dj  
Tim Wolff and can be regarded as the primary sample of his unique  
producing skills. The title track Sostenuto refers to the Italian term  
'Adagio Sostenuto' which, in classical music, refers to sustained  
play. Tim was inspired by Carl Craig for the track 'Branch; which  
crosses over from pure dance oriented to listening music, with a nice  
wintery feeling. The third track, Like Clockwork is a minimalistic,  
yet very warm dance track. It made it to the final of the annual Dutch  
dance music competition 'Vinylized'. EevoNext artist Terrace added his  
own mood while maintaining the drive of the original, resulting in a  
more anthem-like remix.


Soundbits and bites:
Sostenuto: http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800025_Sostenuto.d.mp3
Branch: http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800026_Branch.d.mp3
Like Clockwork: 
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800027_Like_clockwork.d.mp3
Like Clockwork (Terrace remix): 
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800028_Like_clockwork_Terrace_remix.d.mp3


---
Previous release: 2000 and one - Neverending Cycle (remastered)
http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=94


Re: (313) Yagya / Sending Orbs

2009-01-22 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Yes... i agree Sending Orbs is one of hollands finest labels. I have  
not missed out on a single release on that label. The releases of  
Kettel and from Secede are pure bliss.



On 22 jan 2009, at 12:33, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:



a small recommendation

just out is the new / 2nd album by Yagya -
very in the Gas/Basic Channel/154 stylee, kinda towards Boards of  
Canada


see http://www.sendingorbs.com/
a label run by Kettel and his brother

all releases I recommended




(313) Closure of the Clone record label

2009-01-20 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I found this in my mailbox this morning, it might be of some interest  
for some of you:

---

* Closure of the Clone record label*
After running the label since 1993/ 94 we recently noticed that we  
were going to repeat ourselves. We started as a label influenced by  
the first wave of techno and house labels who were just releasing  
music for the sake of good and personal music (we cloned what they  
did... by just having fun and release music which we enjoyed ourselves).
We have started very immature and without having an idea in mind that  
we we're going to make this a business...


At that moment we were exploring the field of minimalish techno and  
acid. Then our attention slowly moved to electro, post Detroit techno  
and the new sonic territories with modern electronica. We've had the  
return of disco in the late 90's and the nu-disco thing and a fusi on  
of styles in the early '00. Simultaneously we've released dark electro  
techno, campy nu-disco ,advanced modern electronica and personal  
favorites in the rebound.


Artists developed into different directions and there is not much we  
haven't touched in our field... from very 'obscure' records to  
'underground' dance floor hits that got big festival crowds and  
balearic holiday ravers moving.
So what is there left to do? Basically there is no challenge at this  
moment... we can continue releasing everything we like (from people we  
like) without a marketing strategy and without a potential buyers in  
mind as we used to do... but we already did so for many years.


At this moment we don't understand the popularity of many artists and  
releasesor... actually we do!. We do, to a certain level, because  
we've tried many things when we just started our journey into music  
when we were teenagers and when we started the label +/- 15 years ago!  
By now we do understan d the tricks and formulas of dance music and  
the different users. However using these tricks and formulas just to  
ensure maximum effect would be betrayal to our own musical ethics  
because our goal with Clone records is to entertain ourself with the  
music we release (and to be clear... with themusic...and not the side  
effects). Somehow we feel we've had an almost complete life cycle of  
personal evolution in dance music and thats also how we developed the  
label into a versatile label which is releasing different styles of  
dance music for different purposes. Its a difficult decision because  
the label is doing very well and we get warm reactions from the  
strangest places in this world and we could do this for another 10  
years!
But in order to remain passioned about what we do, we feel we should  
not continue the label as it is.. so we won't.


but no worries.. there will be new things coming, but its just not  
exactly clear what, how (and when). More news on th at in a few weeks  
time!


There will be to two remaining releases (scheduled for Februari.)
C#55 - I-f ft Fred Ventura/ Ajello - I cut my heart out (Craig  
Richards edit)/ I'm ready
C#56 - Marco Bernardi - Mystery Of Nazerus  (plus a limited Marcus  
Bernardi rmx 12)

then it will be quiet on the label...

oh.. and  Clone Clasic Cuts still has some releases lined up (incl a  
Unit Moebius CD release), so for now we don't know what will happen  
with that.. but most likely we will continue with the Classic Cuts  
Series.


(313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Check: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/148270

No  more Ralf  Florian


KJ


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be  
Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts  
performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true  
Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.



On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:



On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:

One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep  
Purple -

still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the  
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho  
Rob, I guess it's a rule of rockism's.


Martin





Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

*grabs popcorn and waits for Martin his reaction*

:-)



On 6 jan 2009, at 11:42, Williams, Graham wrote:


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno...

A bit like the Black Dog...


G


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:29
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:


One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep
Purple -
still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho
Rob, I guess it's a rule of rockism's.

Martin





Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 6 jan 2009, at 11:52, Martin Dust wrote:



On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands?



even happened with Bucks Fizz Rob :)


The Tramps... (yeah not progrock ;-))


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only  
for their unique analog modular design.


That why i am working really hard on my multiple personality disorder  
so that in the near future i can perform under the names of:


- The Moderator
- The Real Moderator
- The Orginal Moderator

I am going to be sooo techno!


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Nah we all like the  village people... my studio walls are full with  
posters of them


...oh ...right we were talking about Kraftwerk :-)

On 6 jan 2009, at 15:49, r...@rohformat.de wrote:


Psst. This is already way more attention than the topic deserves.

Happy new year, btw! :)

Ronny




(313) 2000 One - Neverending Cycle remastered out now

2008-11-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Ahum... just letting you all now that the 2000  One re-release should  
be in a recordstore near you by now...



---
New release on 12
Label: Eevo Lute Muzique
Cat no: EEVO003R
Format: 12 Vinyl
Release date: 30-10-2008
Style: Detroit/Melodic Techno

From the vaults of Eevo Lute Muzique is a new series of releases on  
Eevo Lute Muzique/EevoNext Recordings. We are releasing newly mastered  
classic releases as well as material, never released before and safely  
stored in our DAT archives for years. Stay tuned for much more to come  
over the next months.


This time we bring you a complete rerelease of this classic EP by 2000  
And One dated from 1992. All audio is completely restored and re- 
mastered, we think it is a big improvement and it shows what modern  
studio technology can do with classic techno sound, fitting it right  
in with contemporary electronic music. Available as limited edition  
remastered 12 Vinyl.


(313) East Island - Near Depth EP on EevoNext

2008-10-11 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Out on EevoNext, available on all major dowloadstores on 14-10-08:

===
East Island - Near Depth EP

From the vaults of Eevo Lute Muzique is a series of releases on Eevo  
Lute Muzique/EevoNext Recordings. We are releasing newly mastered  
classic releases as well as material, never released before and safely  
stored in our DAT archives for years.


This time we are proud to present you a new and as of yet unreleased  
EP from the East Island twins. The tracks, originally recorded in the  
late nineties, have the typical East Island trademark that they  
already explored on earlier releases such as the Assembled 019/020  
album. Variation is the key on this ‘Near Depth EP’, moving from genre  
to genre. Element X goes to the realm of the typical Eevo Lute electro  
sound with lush melodies, pulsating synths and analog strings. We go  
to the Detroit area with uptempo beats, feel-good melodies and a rare  
acidline in Atomile.


To bring this track to the 21st century, Estroe gave it a remix  
treatment mixing her typical Estroe sound but keeping the emotional  
value of the original. In Follow Your Star the acid lines twinkle like  
stars and take you onto an epic journey deep into East Island  
territory. Finally it is soundtrack time with a spooky Perfect Lover  
where hiphop beats merge with alien voices and dark chords. So to  
round up, this EP shows us how versatile and beautiful the music and  
minds of East Islands are.


previews:
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800016_Atomile.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800017_Atomile_-_Estroe_remix.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800018_Element_X.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800019_Follow_your_star.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800020_Perfect_Lover.d.mp3

For more info:
http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=93

Re: (313) East Island - Near Depth EP on EevoNext

2008-10-11 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Oh and for all you ancient techno peepz ;-) some 2000 and One info:

30th of October marks the vinyl release of Neverending Cycle -  
Remastered


For pre-orders: http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?link=shopcategory_id=74


On 11 okt 2008, at 12:39, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:


Out on EevoNext, available on all major dowloadstores on 14-10-08:

===
East Island - Near Depth EP

From the vaults of Eevo Lute Muzique is a series of releases on  
Eevo Lute Muzique/EevoNext Recordings. We are releasing newly  
mastered classic releases as well as material, never released before  
and safely stored in our DAT archives for years.


This time we are proud to present you a new and as of yet unreleased  
EP from the East Island twins. The tracks, originally recorded in  
the late nineties, have the typical East Island trademark that they  
already explored on earlier releases such as the Assembled 019/020  
album. Variation is the key on this ‘Near Depth EP’, moving from  
genre to genre. Element X goes to the realm of the typical Eevo Lute  
electro sound with lush melodies, pulsating synths and analog  
strings. We go to the Detroit area with uptempo beats, feel-good  
melodies and a rare acidline in Atomile.


To bring this track to the 21st century, Estroe gave it a remix  
treatment mixing her typical Estroe sound but keeping the emotional  
value of the original. In Follow Your Star the acid lines twinkle  
like stars and take you onto an epic journey deep into East Island  
territory. Finally it is soundtrack time with a spooky Perfect Lover  
where hiphop beats merge with alien voices and dark chords. So to  
round up, this EP shows us how versatile and beautiful the music and  
minds of East Islands are.


previews:
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800016_Atomile.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800017_Atomile_-_Estroe_remix.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800018_Element_X.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800019_Follow_your_star.d.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ190800020_Perfect_Lover.d.mp3

For more info:
http://www.eevolute.com/t.php?pageid=2atid=3id=93




Re: (313) brief survey

2008-09-26 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 25 sep 2008, at 22:12, Martin Dust wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are you all listening to right at this second?  Please include  
format. (LP, CD, streaming mp3, podcast, etc)




A dead 808... :(


A 909 with some serious MIDI timing issues... also :-(



Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview

2008-09-26 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Innovative music is a skam anyway


On 26 sep 2008, at 12:43, /0 wrote:


that can only be a good thing if you like innovative music

- Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview




Oh yeah. I agree. Don't get me wrong, the honesty in there is  
refreshing. The problem, as I see it, for people making a living  
from music is that it's hard to take that break unless you're very  
(financially) successful.
I guess they are going to have to accept that it's no longer a  
business and back to a hobby.

m





Re: (313) new acid junkies -- Crane Dance EP

2008-09-20 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

oh well it is all dutch anyways ;-)

Now we are talking dutch techno, some quick eevolute news,
comming out soon:

East Island - Near Depth EP  (next07)
Digital only, old school techno/electro in classic eevolute style. All  
recorded about 10 years ago and recently found again in the Eevolute  
vaults.


Comming out soon... again:
2000 and one - Neverending Cycle (eevo03r)
Vinyl/digital, you asked for it, we re-mastered it and finally back on  
vinyl this highly anticipated classic eevolute record.


Cheers!




On 20 sep 2008, at 05:21, southernoutpost wrote:

Hmp, for some reason I thought it was Acid Junkies. I humbly stand  
corrected!


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On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Yeah but Straight Trippin is a Terrace track ;-)

On 19 sep 2008, at 02:53, Southern Outpost wrote:


wow, that's a trip (pun intended ;) Haven't heard much from Acid
Junkies since that incredible track years ago Straight Trippin'


P.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:42 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

I got a note on facebook from Stefan about this, and grabbed it
immediately from Beatport, where it appears to be cheapest (in the
US).  You can probably do better in
Europe with http://www.junodownload.com/ppps/products/ 
1345664-02.htm


Stefan's stuff as Florence, Sierra Romeo, etc is a little more
contemplative and chill. Acid Junkies is straight up dirty  
jacking fun

on Crane Dance.





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Re: (313) new acid junkies -- Crane Dance EP

2008-09-19 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Yeah but Straight Trippin is a Terrace track ;-)

On 19 sep 2008, at 02:53, Southern Outpost wrote:


wow, that's a trip (pun intended ;) Haven't heard much from Acid
Junkies since that incredible track years ago Straight Trippin'


P.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:42 PM, kent williams  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got a note on facebook from Stefan about this, and grabbed it
immediately from Beatport, where it appears to be cheapest (in the
US).  You can probably do better in
Europe with http://www.junodownload.com/ppps/products/1345664-02.htm

Stefan's stuff as Florence, Sierra Romeo, etc is a little more
contemplative and chill. Acid Junkies is straight up dirty jacking  
fun

on Crane Dance.





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(313) Glasgow

2008-09-01 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Hi all,

I will be in Glasgow from this friday until Sunday. I will be at the  
Terrace gig in the Stereo bar. I know some of you will be there but we  
are hoping to see more 313 peeps there!


KJ










Re: (313) How to configure mail clients to send plain text:

2008-08-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

What! Still no EBCDIC support, this is getting ridiculous ;-)



On 21 aug 2008, at 18:46, kent williams wrote:


http://home.earthlink.net/~bobbau/email/avoiding-html/

Despite the circa-1996-grade HTML formatting, this is a nearly
comprehensive page on the subject.

Remember plain text good, HTML bad. At least with respect to this
mailing list.  Not open to debate either. Everyplace I go on the
Internets where they let people fancy-format their sh1t, you end up
with yellow on white blinking text, and JPG files of a chimp holding a
revolver.

You can do that stuff on Detroit Luv if you want. This list is the
forum for people who can get their point across with good old 7bit
ASCII.




Re: (313) I'm not making this stuff up

2008-07-09 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Yeah either that or Andrew is afraid that the next e-mail he has to  
send is the she has discovered his secret stash of Milli Vanellli and  
Jason Donovan records ;-)


KJ


On 9 jul 2008, at 19:38, Tim Baker wrote:

Maybe you record collection is just filled with gems that she can't  
pick out

a bad record?

:)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Duke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:32 PM
To: list 313
Subject: (313) I'm not making this stuff up

Okay; so my daughter down in the studio again
today. Just saw that she was digging in my vinyl
crates again and what was the sole record
she had sat in her lap with her:

Jeff Mills--Waveform Transmission Vol. 1 2 X EP (Tresor 11/1992)!

(Filed nowhere near the Basic Channel record she had
the other day, so not a coincidence;
my wife always said she was smart!)
She's been playing with unplugged keyboards (both
computer and music) lately; methinks it's time to
plug 'em in for her and see what results!

Andrew





Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu

2008-07-08 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I am still crossing fingers and hoping that they will let the forum  
live on somewhere on hotmix.nl or something like that. I will miss  
those lonely hours at the office where i could play the CBS radio.


But then again, Ferenc has unplugged his station more then once  
before, so there is me hoping ;-)


KJ


On 8 jul 2008, at 15:35, JT Stewart wrote:


hardcore suckthat place was my spot for a long time...awesome
music and cool people on the forum.

any recommend's for comparable spots? are there any?


On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Odeluga, Ken  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's a pain. I was just getting into it, late  :(

-Original Message-
From: southernoutpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:32 PM
To: Ronny Pries
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) RIP CBS.nu


I will miss the crazy ass Bunker acid track that used to drill my
brain at work.

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http://www.southernoutpost.com

Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
Infiltrating your sound systems
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On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nooo. What a sad year - first othello bit the dust
and now CBS. I need my intergalactic italo disco injection on a
regular base. Help.


http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23313p=1
sad day.








Re: (313) X-102 clips

2008-06-27 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Oh don't get me wrong, the Tenori-on is awesome machine (and looks  
really cool to) but it just didn't fit into my image of a MM live  
kinda thing ;-) But then again i am just a stubborn dutch country  
guy ;-) I really am waiting to see one pop-up in a store so i can play  
around with because i am not sure if it will fit into my workflow but  
maybe i just want one because of all the flashy lights on those  
things ;-)


On 27 jun 2008, at 09:13, Kevin Reynolds wrote:

Of course Mike and Jeff would use the Tenori-on.  I think that  
machine is completely suited towards Detroit cats.  Yes, the  
marketing makes it seem like an art piece (aka IDM) but I see a lot  
of power in that little box.  With all its pads, it makes sense to  
us Detroit folks.  Actually, I think its the most progressive piece  
in awhile.  I wanted it, but don't have the 1200 for it right now.   
Think about it, did Roland ever market the XOX to any inner city  
people?  Peace!




Re: (313) X-102 clips

2008-06-24 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Mike was using a Tenori-on? For some reason that doesn't sound  
something for Mike at all, don't ask me why ;-) I always saw the  
Tenori-on as something really cool but more IDM'-ish like the mononome.


KJ


On 24 jun 2008, at 14:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As far as I could see, there were no laptops involved in the  
performance. Jeff was on 4 cdjs, a couple of mixing consoles and  
what looked like a small silver 909 styled box. Mike was on a newish  
Korg, some other keyboard, and was using a Tenori-on for sequencing  
on some tracks.




Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Retro Techno compilation on vinyl !]

2008-06-09 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


i didn't know Network was still in business or is this a bootleg?


On 9 jun 2008, at 18:20, pauley wrote:



Having bought this compilation new in 1991, it felt then as if it  
was a
historic anthology, a summing up almost...because there was  
definately a
feeling for a while, after acid and the big parties, there was a  
kind of
backlash, and I think people really felt that techno/house had had  
it's
moment, it had peaked...so that comp, although ridiculously close to  
the
years that those tracks were released, even in '91, had a real sense  
of
nostalgia about it. And for a lot of people it kind of bridged the  
gap a
bit because most people's idea of techno then was bleep/rave stuff.  
The

fact that it sounded so forward looking when i pulled it out again in
99/2000 remains a testament to the music, and a lot of what makes it  
such
powerfull music was missed by most even at that time, and it becomes  
more

apparent
every day. Great record.

On 9 Jun 2008, at 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


oh dear... Retro Techno?  LOL

get me my slippers


:) Given it's a really old compilation re-done, I think the title  
is a

not as bad as it sounds. One of the first things that got me into
detroit techno in fact. I was mainly into industrial (and some dance
music) before that.

With that in mind this double pack really blew me away. I've not been
the same since :)

robin...









Re: (313) Four elements on techno production

2008-06-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Indeed... a little imaginary
Crack is bad for you ;-)

Now give me a shovel i know there is a good bassline somewhere under  
that tree




On 2 jun 2008, at 16:44, Michael Kuszynski wrote:


any particular flavor, tone, force, or style can be associated with an
element. a rough bass can be like water or fire or earth or air,
whether its a typhoon or a breeze. i think this post is a little
imaginary.

On 6/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmmm. Not tenuous titles, more the feel of the music.

Surely you agree that Drexciya somehow sounds 'watery'. I think in  
the
same way Strand feels 'earthy' etc etc. Then again maybe Im just  
wigging

out :-(

p.s. Drexciya was the definite detroit association. 10 points Rob :-D

--

chuck

Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Odd one. You don't just mean titles then? You seem to be looking  
for,
now don't take this the wrong way, tenuous verbal connections. Can  
you

be more specific?

I thought of 'Firekeeper' but maybe that's not the sort of thing you
mean ...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:06 PM
To: 313 List
Subject: (313) Four elements on techno production


Hi list,

Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether anyone can
recommend some music with a strong association to one of the  
elements?


There is a definite detroit association with one of the elements,
(ahem), but also Strand, Phonophani - earth, Derek Carr, Dave  
Angel,

Juan? - space (ie air), Shake - fire(?)

Can anyone provide any other 'element' tips

play nicely children

cheers







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Re: (313) Movement has competition...

2008-05-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on  
there?


kj

On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote:


wow! that is so 1994.

 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400
Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition...



oops.  meant to say more than that.

ROFLMAO this is good to see.  it reminds us that as awful as the demf
lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be
infinitely worse.

2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ROFLMAO

2008/5/28  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg

m






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(313) Florence Wladimir M. remastered

2008-05-24 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
By popular request we are proudly presenting the first 2 releases from  
the Eevo Lute Muzique vaults, IMHO the remastered version do sound  
better then the original recordings, stay tuned for more:


---
From the vaults of Eevo Lute Muzique is a new series of releases on  
Eevo Lute Muzique/EevoNext Recordings. We are releasing newly mastered  
classic releases as well as material, never released before and safely  
stored in our DAT archives for years. Stay tuned for much more to come  
over the next months.


This time we bring you a complete rerelease of the first two records  
ever recorded and released on the label back in 1991. All audio is  
completely restored and re-mastered, we think it is a big improvement  
and it shows what modern studio technology can do with classic techno  
sound, fitting it right in with contemporary electronic music.


The two records will be available from 9-6-2008 as limited edition 12  
vinyl pressings as wel as digital downloads from all stores!


Florence - US Heritage:
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19081d_Exploration.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19082d_A%20touch%20of%20heaven.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19083d_The%20Vineyard.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19084d_The%20Vineyard%20-%20reprise.mp3

Wladimir M. - As the leaves fall from the trees...
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19085d_Goin_South.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19086d_Reasonable_Doubt.mp3
http://www.eevolute.com/uploads/NLQ19087d_Evil.mp3




Re: (313) strings of life ...groan....

2008-05-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Marvin is a better name for a robot...


On 16 mei 2008, at 17:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



that's the name of the robot


Michael Kuszynski schreef:

i dont get it. whats it to do with strings of life.

On 5/16/08, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ah, I thought at first: 'notanotherflippinremix?!?!?!?'

We like this because of the (reported) DSO connection, all those  
years

ago

-Original Message-
From: Carlos De Brito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:55 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) strings of life ...groan


amazing!

this picture is so cool:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/scitech/1505_asimo_a_lg.jpg

c*

 Original-Nachricht 


Datum: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:26:36 +1000
Von: Philip McGarva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: 313@hyperreal.org
Betreff: (313) strings of life ...groan
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/15/2245152.htm


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Re: (313) i-f mixed up in hague 2.1 tracklist

2008-05-17 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
2.1? I didn't even know that existed i have Mixed Up in the hague 1,  
1.9 and 2...


This topic has a lot of tracklists of I-F but no 2.1:
http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=18619

KJ



On 17 mei 2008, at 20:18, Scotto wrote:

i am looking for the i-f mixed up in hague track list, i would  
really like one with the track times on it as my copy the order of  
the tracks has gotten scrambled in itunes and it is annoying to  
listen to now.


i looked on the cbs site and could not find it and i do not remember  
where i picked it up.


scotto






Re: (313) Re: speaking of electro Convextion...

2008-05-05 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
And the CD version has some extra tracks... One of them is a new track  
from the guys from East Island.



On 4 mei 2008, at 19:48, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:


Very solid compilation on Arne Weinberg's imprint.
He's selling copies through discogs (where I got mine)...


jeff



I love it !
And i'm so glad to hear a new Derek Carr track, sooo much emotions  
in it.
I wish i could see him live on a top of a mountain with a sunset  
and the

caress of this warm breeze on my cheeks.
- K*




...features a new track in that vein:
http://www.rubadub.co.uk/?node_id=1.3id=22307
Andrew




Re: (313) Model 500 live in Glasgow

2008-04-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
They played in The Hague last year, the sound was awefull there but  
the set was really good though! Actually it was how Jason described  
it. Only the line up was a bit different back then with Skurge, MM and  
Blak Tony (if i recall it correclty) and Juan of course. Was a great  
night with Universe 2 Universe playing before them ;-)


We need more quality musicians who can play songs instead of hitting  
the shuffle button on a drum computer ;-)



On 28 apr 2008, at 17:58, Tristan Watkins wrote:

- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Model 500 live in Glasgow


H, I don't mind the lively and sometimes far ranging debates on  
here (and indeed can't help chiming in sometimes) the basic
reason I'm on 313 is so I don't miss things like this.  Sad that  
the first thing I knew about this (it might have been posted on

here and I missed it) then was the review :-(



Francis, they're playing Fabric at the end of May (although I reckon  
the vibe will be somewhat less special than in Glasgow). But maybe  
that means they'll come up closer to you as well???


Tristan
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Re: (313) Booooooo!!!!!

2008-04-11 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 11 apr 2008, at 15:47, Aidan O'Doherty wrote:


that's the great thing about technology - it is so easy to replace, so
it's not such a loss. maybe he has the thing encrypted!
(uh-oh, showing my lack of tech savvy - aidan, you divvy).


Encrypting your harddrive or folders in which audiofiles are located  
is a really bad idea. Encrypting/decrypting costs a lot processing  
power and you end up with horrible audio performance.


Now i come to think of it, maybe this is what autechre are doing to  
create their music ;-)




Re: (313) Booooooo!!!!!

2008-04-11 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 11 apr 2008, at 15:44, Paul wrote:

It doesn't matter who it is, stealing someone's hard drive in the  
middle of a performance is pretty skanky.


It is and it sucks big time, someone stole my complete liveset last  
year just 3 hours before a gig in switserland and believe me, if you  
want to feel miserable, this is a good way. Even though i had  
everything on a backup it just feels horrible. No one deserves to get  
their harddrive stolen (well unless if it was stolen in the first  
place ;-)), if you do think so you have a serious attitude problem...




Re: (313) Booooooo!!!!!

2008-04-11 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 11 apr 2008, at 17:01, Matt Kane's Brain wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now i come to think of it, maybe this is what autechre are doing to  
create

their music ;-)


I think they might skip the decryption part.


Rumor goes that their next album is being called 3DES :-)



Re: (313) techno vs technique

2008-04-07 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Well said Kent!

Last couple of years i saw so many of there debates, debates whether  
or not techno with only a laptop is bad techno, analogue synthesis is  
the way. The thing is that when this whole thing started i had to do  
exactly the same discussion but then the thing we had to fight about  
was when 'traditional musicians' claimed electronic was not real.


I recently had a similar debate with a DJ who claimed that people dj- 
ing with Live or with that M-Audio Torq system ain't real DJ's.


In the end it turns out that most of these discussions are all based  
on fear or a form of jealousy. I have a studio with a bunch of old  
analogue synths and i see people playing out with only a laptop, and  
that laptop is there whole studio to. When is started making  
electronic music i had to save up a lot of money to get something  
simple started, these young kids can do the same with a lot less money.


All these discussions are based on feelings described above, in most  
cases they have no musical content and if there is one it is mainly  
that for example the old rock people simply did not like the sound of  
a TB-303.




On 7 apr 2008, at 15:36, kent williams wrote:


This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop
performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs
mnml thread seemed to be going.

I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the
same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other,
but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the
technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand
embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a
909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too.  You're just out $10k more on
hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity
loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if
the results don't measure up?




Re: (313) techno vs technique

2008-04-07 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Oh don't get me wrong, i don think there is anything wrong with having  
a preference on making music with hardware or software or a mix. My  
point was simply that most of the discussion i had with people about  
if music made equipment Z or by workflow Y is based on some form of  
jealousy or fear. I personally have a mix of both worlds in my studio.


My statement is based on personal experiences, something i noticed  
when i had these rather pointless discussions on what was real music.  
It wasn't based on some form of science/facts. The discussions on  
itself is pointless because it can only be held if we could exactly  
tell scientifically what would be music and what not. These  
discussions are based on personal feelings about what would be the  
right way to make music. It is a personal preference yet most people  
try to reason about it with other people on scientific level. So we  
personal/emotional choice about music and we defend it scientific facts.


KJ


On 7 apr 2008, at 18:19, Matt Chester wrote:

What do you base this comment on, just your own experience or a  
wider view?   As a primarily (but not solely) hardware producer I  
certainly don't agree with that statement - I neither fear nor am  
jealous or even smug about laptop producers, I simply prefer making  
music with hardware.  Yes, it took money and time to build up a  
decent studio, but that's half the fun of it.   It's just a  
different way of working...
Whilst I fundamentally agree also that the end product is the most  
important thing, there cannot be any question that the methods used  
dramatically alter the outcome.  It's a matter of taste which you  
prefer, but there is no doubt that differing production techniques  
and equipment result in a different sound...   Not only from the  
point of sound generation (which is becoming less obvious as soft  
synths etc become ever more elegant) but also the interface and  
approach that the differing techniques force upon the musician.
There are things that you can do with a computer that would be very  
difficult to do with hardware and vice versa...  i don't think you  
can do exactly the same thing with each at all..


Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:


In the end it turns out that most of these discussions are all  
based on fear or a form of jealousy. I have a studio with a bunch  
of old analogue synths and i see people playing out with only a  
laptop, and that laptop is there whole studio to. When is started  
making electronic music i had to save up a lot of money to get  
something simple started, these young kids can do the same with a  
lot less money.






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Re: (313) Chill Out Rooms

2008-04-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Yeah we need more rooms with those old Irresistible Force records...  
Chill Out or Die ;-)




On 5 apr 2008, at 17:24, Dan Bean wrote:


Yes, very much.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 April 2008 22:32
To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Chill Out Rooms

Does anyone miss them at events? I do, I'd really love to play a slow
long 3hr set to bend some heads.

m





Re: (313) Chill Out Rooms

2008-04-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I loved Global Chillage, played it a lot back then! All those old  
ambient records one FAX where also personal favorites.


On 6 apr 2008, at 21:26, Frank Glazer wrote:


The time I heard MMM play he absolutely killed it, and there was nary
a pink floyd record to be found.  Why all the hate?  Global Chillage
was a classic!  What am I missing?

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:


Yeah we need more rooms with those old Irresistible Force  
records... Chill

Out or Die ;-)


We never got that kind of hippy crap up here, the chill rooms  
always had
good stuff going on in them - which was good because it was always  
squat
tekno next door. MMM seems to have made a living out of playing  
Pink Floyd

b-sides at the wrong speed.

I guess now smoking is illegal they'll never really come back to  
clubs.


m





--
peace,

frank

dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com




(313) Some old Eevo-shi...

2008-04-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I don't know if any of you are interested in this but we are opening  
op 'ye good ol' eevolute faults:


We are currently finishing our remastering on classic Eevo Lute Tunes,  
which will soon result in a re-release of the first 2 records on our  
label, and yes, we are putting them on vinyl too. For downloaders, we  
will add extra unreleased material as well as some exclusive remixes.  
Stay tuned for more news about this. in the meantime, if you are  
interested in us putting out more classics, send us a mail with your  
suggestions [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have found a lot of  
unreleased and valuable material in our archives, including original  
artwork and special versions of our previous music, enough to surprise  
you a good few times!


Re: (313) First DEMF line-up

2008-03-14 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Rob who?

On 14 mrt 2008, at 17:24, rob theakston wrote:


never heard of him.



On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you know, TH(X)e guy that did all those collaborations on
*whisper* m_nus


- Original Message -
Da : rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Oggetto : Re: (313) First DEMF line-up
Data : Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:39:33 -0400


On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:32 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



it was from Dale Lawrence, May 1st 2000


who?






Re: (313) First DEMF line-up

2008-03-14 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
And now we are on those guys, there rainday album is really worth  
checking out. Beautiful ambient tracks there for your sunday  
afternoon ;-)


KJ


On 14 mrt 2008, at 18:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

By the way, Bill and Julian Schnabel are doing a FREE set tonight on  
the campus of the U of M in Ann Arbor; the details are on my home  
computer or I'd post them.
If there's interest, I can do so in a few hours when I get done  
teaching class.


   jeff 
 (surfing while the students write!)




-- Original message --
From: J.C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 14 March 2008, Nik Stoltzman wrote:

I think that Bill Van Loo set is amazing. I burnt a copy of it to  
CD and still

listen to it from
time to time. The opening 5 minutes are some of the most beautiful  
electronic

sounds I have heard.

Always makes me melancholy, but in a good way. Deep.

You used to be able to download it on his chromedecay site - if it  
is still

there, I highly

recommend it.


It's still there:
http://www.chromedecay.org/downloads/cdigital001/



--
San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best  
Radio DJ:

http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php
AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.)

Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of
KZSU Radio or Stanford University. (or words to that effect.)






Re: (313) First DEMF line-up

2008-03-14 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

That Matthew bloke?


On 14 mrt 2008, at 20:38, rob theakston wrote:


Ain't ever heard of him either. More Hawtin talk, plz...

I also like the verb schreef. i'd like to thank marsel for adding that
into my vocabulary.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rob who?

On 14 mrt 2008, at 17:24, rob theakston wrote:




never heard of him.



On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

you know, TH(X)e guy that did all those collaborations on
*whisper* m_nus


- Original Message -
Da : rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Oggetto : Re: (313) First DEMF line-up
Data : Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:39:33 -0400


On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:32 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



it was from Dale Lawrence, May 1st 2000


who?









Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 25 feb 2008, at 11:02, Martin Dust wrote:



On 24 Feb 2008, at 19:40, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dbx (debut of new live set)
mixmaster morris


those are nice.


benny benassi


Wonder how many people will put there hands up? ;)


Aren't you confusing him with our own dutch pride *cough* Fedde Le  
Grand? But then both make extremely lame music... I recon people will  
put there hands up and maybe a finger as well ;-)




Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?

2008-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

I think he is talking about that as well... keep up :-)


On 25 feb 2008, at 12:56, Williams, Graham wrote:


Hey r3dshit, keep up, we are talking about t-shirts not emails...


G

-Original Message-
From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 February 2008 11:49
To: Williams, Graham; 313
Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?

plaintext, without read receipts


- Original Message -
From: Williams, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:39 AM
Subject: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?



Are we looking for Plain Text or HTML designs? :-)

G





Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings

2008-02-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

benny can't get no satisfaction... avoid at all cost!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7T49_LPt-8

Horrible...


On 25 feb 2008, at 16:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


then they should pretty much start posting that sh!t

benny benassi? who he?

MEK

/0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/24/2008 02:23:33 PM:

when I talked to jason two months ago, he said that the demf  
schedule was



pretty much worked out.


- Original Message -
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2008 rumored bookings



On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM, KHJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dbx (debut of new live set)
mixmaster morris


those are nice.


benny benassi


i hope this is a joke.

also heard more vague talk of paxahau trying to book m.i.a. and  
girl

talk.


dear god, no.

tom








Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas

2008-02-23 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 23 feb 2008, at 05:02, diana potts wrote:


Don't blame me, blame the moderator


Now that did i do wrong here? ;-)

KJ



(313) Shameless self-promotion

2008-02-19 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I am playing at the Bootleg in Rotterdam this saturday together with  
fellow listmember Todd Sines, feel free to join the party:


Saturday February 23rd
9Y Bootleg DJ Cafe: A Tribute to Motorcity

LIVE:The Moderator(DownLow, Eevonext)
DJs:Todd Sines(Planet E, 7th City, Yore), Bas roR(Kubra, AW-Rec),  
6Ft10(Bootleg DJ Cafe) Clarence Brandon(Bootleg DJ Cafe)


Bootleg DJ Cafe - Rotterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.bootlegdjcafe.com


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