Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
On 9 Sep 2009, at 06:34, Fred Heutte wrote: Rewind!! I'd do that with Throw. Which reminds me, why wasn't -that- on that must know Beatport list? Doesn't it have to be in their archive to be in any chart they publish? Which means you can't do a real chart on there. m
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Martin Dust wrote: Doesn't it have to be in their archive to be in any chart they publish? Which means you can't do a real chart on there. m would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
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would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. But a chart should reflect what you're actual playing not what they have, which often they don't but that's where they make most of their money, from people buying DJ charts. m
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Martin Dust wrote: would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. But a chart should reflect what you're actual playing not what they have, which often they don't but that's where they make most of their money, from people buying DJ charts. m but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. Can't it ? -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
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but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m
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Martin Dust wrote: but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m Martin.. not having a dig at all... sorry if it came across that way personally not a huge fan of beatport, ive never used it...but lots of people do... Agree with all that you've said 100% -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
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Sound good so far but is there anyway to d/l fro Soundcloud. Me thinks not but hoping. Ravinder. 2009/9/9 Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org: Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell: http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx - Greg
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On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:17, Placid wrote: Martin Dust wrote: but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m Martin.. not having a dig at all... sorry if it came across that way personally not a huge fan of beatport, ive never used it...but lots of people do... Agree with all that you've said 100% Cool mate, just wanted to be clear that I'm not dissing the idea. We don't use Beatport because it's s slow and throws lots of script errors but I love the idea of getting some charts sorted for people to check out. There's a lot of good taste makers on this list and we should put that to good use :) m
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Throw gets two plays. Hahaha. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Greg Earleea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell: http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Rewind!! I'd do that with Throw. Which reminds me, why wasn't -that- on that must know Beatport list? fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: 313@hyperreal.org From: cpe1704...@gmail.com Frank Glazer Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 00:20:34 -0400 Throw gets two plays. Hahaha. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Greg Earleea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell: http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Why even waste time wondering? There were a fair number of Huh? and WTF? choices rendered. Some were artists worthy of attention, though the choice of track was Huh? yet again. In a field as vast as techno, I would refuse to narrow a list like that down to 20 choices, unless it was a sort of here's some stuff to check out list that was posted on a weekly basis. I could have some fun with that... - Wrench Fred Heutte wrote: Rewind!! I'd do that with Throw. Which reminds me, why wasn't -that- on that must know Beatport list? fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: 313@hyperreal.org From: cpe1704...@gmail.com Frank Glazer Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 00:20:34 -0400 Throw gets two plays. Hahaha. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Greg Earleea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell: http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx - Greg
Re: (313) Los Hermanos
sound clips here http://www.submergerecordings.com/main/content/view/54/43/ http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=2334cat=0page= (also japan import for sale) and since we're talking confirmed since yesterday friday april 4 - Planet Delsin @ 11 - Amsterdam with Los Hermanos (Live), ao also thu feb 28th Planet Delsin @ 11 Laurent Garnier Nuno Dos Santos fri feb 29th RushHour @ Paradiso Theo Parrish - 5h set fri mar 7th Planet Delsin @ 11 Prosumer Tepeli feat Elif (Live) Zender VT Newworldaquarium Peel Seamus and.. fri 6 sat 7 june Rush Hour vs Planet Delsin @ 11, Rolando, Redshape (Live), and (much) more t.b.a (ps last chances to visit this club, as 11 closes July 1st!) Martin Dust schreef: Anyone heard the new album yet? Really looking forward to it. m
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i've picked it up a week ago, and i must say that i've expected more. the album is good, don't get me wrong, but that's all. on another level was better IMHO. i've also downloaded tokem - a story in sound via dancetracksdigital. now that's a good peace of music. regards On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Martin Dust wrote: Anyone heard the new album yet? Really looking forward to it. m --
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Not heard it. Is it even out on popular release ? But Queztal and Birth of 3000 from OAL are spine tingle tastic Im taking me shoes and am out of here. Have a good one. Rav. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2008 16:39 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Anyone heard the new album yet? Really looking forward to it. m To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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Thanks for the link! The first 4 I'm feeling pretty deep. Nothing else until the 8th clip, which is pretty tough, nice. The 9th one is pretty wonky so you know I'm in on that. The only other ones I like are the Jazz above Saturn one and the awakening one, but they're not in the same vein as the rest so I almost consider them separately from the dancier biz. From the clips, I'd say I like more things than I did on the last one, but the few I did like on the last one...I liked a LOT more. Does that make sense? Still need to hear full versions mind you, so all views subject to change I guess. I'm really excited to hear the new Rolando thing. I hope it's good. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:56 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos sound clips here http://www.submergerecordings.com/main/content/view/54/43/ http://www.interstellarsounds.com/product.php?productid=2334cat=0page= (also japan import for sale) and since we're talking confirmed since yesterday friday april 4 - Planet Delsin @ 11 - Amsterdam with Los Hermanos (Live), ao also thu feb 28th Planet Delsin @ 11 Laurent Garnier Nuno Dos Santos fri feb 29th RushHour @ Paradiso Theo Parrish - 5h set fri mar 7th Planet Delsin @ 11 Prosumer Tepeli feat Elif (Live) Zender VT Newworldaquarium Peel Seamus and.. fri 6 sat 7 june Rush Hour vs Planet Delsin @ 11, Rolando, Redshape (Live), and (much) more t.b.a (ps last chances to visit this club, as 11 closes July 1st!) Martin Dust schreef: Anyone heard the new album yet? Really looking forward to it. m
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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone heard the new album yet? Really looking forward to it. no, but i hope it is as good as the last one. that was terribly underrated. also on the los hermanos tip Rolando is coming out with his first solo joint since leaving UR/Los Hermanos, that should be interesting as well. and that latest Ican joint with Plastic People on it is such a banger, both sides are very nice. tom
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Hard to judge on short clips like you mention but I'm up for it, I loved the last album. m Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Thanks for the link! The first 4 I'm feeling pretty deep. Nothing else until the 8th clip, which is pretty tough, nice. The 9th one is pretty wonky so you know I'm in on that. The only other ones I like are the Jazz above Saturn one and the awakening one, but they're not in the same vein as the rest so I almost consider them separately from the dancier biz. From the clips, I'd say I like more things than I did on the last one, but the few I did like on the last one...I liked a LOT more. Does that make sense? Still need to hear full versions mind you, so all views subject to change I guess. I'm really excited to hear the new Rolando thing. I hope it's good. k
Re: (313) Los Hermanos @ Fabric London
That looks like a heavyweight line-up !! Thanks for the tip : ) Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org cc: Fax to: 12/06/06 16:46 Subject: (313) Los Hermanos @ Fabric London Hi, London peeps, wake up: Sat 8th Jul 06 10:00pm - 7:00am =A315 (=A312 nus Fabric First) Advance tickets available from TICKETWEB: Buy Here Room One: Craig Richards Tiefschwarz Sleeparchive (Live) Room Two: UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE... DJ S2 U.R. Presents Los Hermanos (Live) Ben Sims Room Three: Terry Francis
Re: (313) Los Hermanos Album
Hearing very good things about this album, not got a copy yet - anyone heard it? just some bunch of heads from detroit with their mams guitar I heard. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Los Hermanos Album
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 15:16 +, Martin Dust wrote: Hearing very good things about this album, not got a copy yet - anyone heard it? Yeah. I've heard it. I really like it. Keep in mind that I've missed out on getting most of the los hermanos ep's though, so I'm not sure what's new and what's been on the ep's previously. For me though, the most interesting track (in the wake of him no longer being involved in Los Hermanos) is a short snippet of Rolando talking about how Los Hermanos came about and how they're all brothers. Obligatory discogs entry: http://www.discogs.com/release/398509
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Many thanks, looks ace, best get a couple of copies... :) - Original Message - From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Album On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 15:16 +, Martin Dust wrote: Hearing very good things about this album, not got a copy yet - anyone heard it? Yeah. I've heard it. I really like it. Keep in mind that I've missed out on getting most of the los hermanos ep's though, so I'm not sure what's new and what's been on the ep's previously. For me though, the most interesting track (in the wake of him no longer being involved in Los Hermanos) is a short snippet of Rolando talking about how Los Hermanos came about and how they're all brothers. Obligatory discogs entry: http://www.discogs.com/release/398509
Re: (313) Los Hermanos live video
Check: http://www.loshermanosdetroit.com for a video from Knights of the Jaguar live from Los Hermamos. The album will be out on April 19th... That record's not out yet? The CD dropped in Japan last year!?! http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/docs/topics/techno/submerge4.php
Re: (313) Los Hermanos statement
the true end of an era? MEK M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To .com Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 02/13/05 05:41 PM mailing list 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Los Hermanos statement most amazing about this: an actual photograph of Mad Mike, without a mask!! on 2/13/05 5:51 PM, Hans Veneman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Los Hermanos have posted a statement on their site as a response to the rumours regarding DJ Rolando leaving UR and Los Hermanos. Chek it out: http://www.loshermanosdetroit.com Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
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Wot Mike without a mask or Rolando leaving? Or both the true end of an era?
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most amazing about this: an actual photograph of Mad Mike, without a mask!! on 2/13/05 5:51 PM, Hans Veneman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Los Hermanos have posted a statement on their site as a response to the rumours regarding DJ Rolando leaving UR and Los Hermanos. Chek it out: http://www.loshermanosdetroit.com Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
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Agreed!! The flip is H-E-A-V-Y. Buy This Record -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 7:18 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'kj at technotourist dot org'; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos The other side is MUCH better.. doesn't seem to be on that MP3 on the los Hermanos website though ! Eamonn / D1 -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:56 PM To: 'kj at technotourist dot org'; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos DJ Bone played it in London at the weekend. It sounded phat. I was very, very drunk though. :0/ -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 3:54 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I liked that track online, it is funky and sounds really happy, i do think it sounds better then the previous LH release actually. On 27-jan-04, at 15:09, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: ive had it for like a month or so now, actually even longer. im not sure what ya'll are smoking, its pretty much a very nice tune. the b side i dont know about, but ive played and heard out the a side and people dig it. it definitely doesnt sound like their other stuff, which may be what you guys arent feeling. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:39:11 -, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed!! The flip is H-E-A-V-Y. Buy This Record Does it have any sampled breakbeats on it? If not, no thanks. -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) VOTE FOR ME http://www.djmixed.com/djmixed/contests/surveys.cfm?survey_ID=8 http://www.djentropy.com http://www.djentropy.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=dj_entropy At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point. - Ann Coulter There's no anecdote for irony, you say. - Something Corporate
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-Original Message- Does it have any sampled breakbeats on it? If not, no thanks. Got to love mr entropy. :) -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) VOTE FOR ME http://www.djmixed.com/djmixed/contests/surveys.cfm?survey_ID=8 http://www.djentropy.com http://www.djentropy.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nati on=dj_entropy At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point. - Ann Coulter There's no anecdote for irony, you say. - Something Corporate
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:44:02 -, placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got to love mr entropy. :) You KNOW you love me. DJ Entropy ownz 313. ;) *imjustherelookinforactualgoodmusic* -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) VOTE FOR ME http://www.djmixed.com/djmixed/contests/surveys.cfm?survey_ID=8 http://www.djentropy.com http://www.djentropy.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=dj_entropy At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point. - Ann Coulter There's no anecdote for irony, you say. - Something Corporate
Re: (313) Los Hermanos
Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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About to say the same - I thought it was a midi file at first gulp 27/1/04 11:39 AM Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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I didn't think much of it either - sounded a bit like a theme tune to a holiday TV programme -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Hard to follow - LH-2 released Dec.2002 side A Quetzal side B Tescat Classic and never off my decks at home...wicked tunes 27/1/04 11:43 AM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't think much of it either - sounded a bit like a theme tune to a holiday TV programme -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
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Yeah, there's definitely something strangely flat and unfinished to it - kind of sounds as though it could have been made on one of those handheld Yamaha synth/sequencer things. Everything is just too raw and plain in the mix, really, to provoke any excitement or draw the listener into it. That said, I *do* prefer it to the last Los Hermanos record, which I was fairly disappointed with. But ultimately it doesn't do much to undermine my suspicion that Los Hermanos has jumped the shark, in a way, since their first two releases... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 11:44 To: Maxim Sullivan; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos I didn't think much of it either - sounded a bit like a theme tune to a holiday TV programme -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
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I just got the vinyl on my desk, will report tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 11:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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The rythms and melodies and everything all sound very nice, just sounds as if he had the wrong instruments loaded in or something. You can almost imagine how it should sound. - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Hard to follow - LH-2 released Dec.2002 side A Quetzal side B Tescat Classic and never off my decks at home...wicked tunes 27/1/04 11:43 AM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't think much of it either - sounded a bit like a theme tune to a holiday TV programme -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
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What do you expect on a 128 kbps bitrate, If you listen carefully you will hear a nice put together stereo sound view If I will buy the record...don't know.. Greetz
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I have to agree with the comment about the wrong instruments. Then again have you seen the title of the track? My mothers guitar?? IMHO the hermanos releases have gradually gone down hill from the first, which I thought was excelllent. Let's hope the B side of the new one is better :) -Mike Martin wrote: Hard to follow - LH-2 released Dec.2002 side A Quetzal side B Tescat Classic and never off my decks at home...wicked tunes 27/1/04 11:43 AM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't think much of it either - sounded a bit like a theme tune to a holiday TV programme -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos Erm, not sure I like it. Sounds a bit dunno. cheap? ! ? I'll have another listen - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
RE: (313) Los Hermanos
-- Original Message -- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got the vinyl on my desk, will report tomorrow. ive had it for like a month or so now, actually even longer. im not sure what ya'll are smoking, its pretty much a very nice tune. the b side i dont know about, but ive played and heard out the a side and people dig it. it definitely doesnt sound like their other stuff, which may be what you guys arent feeling. tom andythepooh.com
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I've listened to it a few times now off the RA file - I really like the groove it's in and I think it's just a matter of getting used to the sound of the lead instrument. Yeah, it sounds a bit flat but that's the sound of the Flamenco guitar style (or emulated guitar as the case may be). I think come Movement 04 it will be all over the place, like it or not. I'd enjoy hearing remixes/covers of it similar to the Hundred Birds version of Jaguar. Get it to John Arnold and let him have a go at a version. I like it, I'll buy it MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos 01/27/04 05:33 AM Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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Listening to music shouldn't be hard :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:05 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I've listened to it a few times now off the RA file - I really like the groove it's in and I think it's just a matter of getting used to the sound of the lead instrument. Yeah, it sounds a bit flat but that's the sound of the Flamenco guitar style (or emulated guitar as the case may be). I think come Movement 04 it will be all over the place, like it or not. I'd enjoy hearing remixes/covers of it similar to the Hundred Birds version of Jaguar. Get it to John Arnold and let him have a go at a version. I like it, I'll buy it MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos 01/27/04 05:33 AM Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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No - but maybe it should challenge you a bit. Otherwise it's a case of give me another song just like the last one because it was a hit - and then you're just like the mainstream commercial pop world. MEK Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Maxim Sullivan' music.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 01/27/04 09:05 AMSubject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos Listening to music shouldn't be hard :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:05 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I've listened to it a few times now off the RA file - I really like the groove it's in and I think it's just a matter of getting used to the sound of the lead instrument. Yeah, it sounds a bit flat but that's the sound of the Flamenco guitar style (or emulated guitar as the case may be). I think come Movement 04 it will be all over the place, like it or not. I'd enjoy hearing remixes/covers of it similar to the Hundred Birds version of Jaguar. Get it to John Arnold and let him have a go at a version. I like it, I'll buy it MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos 01/27/04 05:33 AM Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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Well there is the saying.. If you listen to anything long enough, you'll begin to like it :) Serendipity in music should not be an issue -- Ryan Snowden Managing Director Digital Dusk +61 (0) 415263714 Perth, Western Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:11 PM To: Ryan Snowden Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; 'Maxim Sullivan' Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos No - but maybe it should challenge you a bit. Otherwise it's a case of give me another song just like the last one because it was a hit - and then you're just like the mainstream commercial pop world. MEK Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Maxim Sullivan' music.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 01/27/04 09:05 AMSubject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos Listening to music shouldn't be hard :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:05 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I've listened to it a few times now off the RA file - I really like the groove it's in and I think it's just a matter of getting used to the sound of the lead instrument. Yeah, it sounds a bit flat but that's the sound of the Flamenco guitar style (or emulated guitar as the case may be). I think come Movement 04 it will be all over the place, like it or not. I'd enjoy hearing remixes/covers of it similar to the Hundred Birds version of Jaguar. Get it to John Arnold and let him have a go at a version. I like it, I'll buy it MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos 01/27/04 05:33 AM Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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One saying deserves another, though... Familiarity breeds contempt :) -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 15:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; 'Maxim Sullivan' Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos Well there is the saying.. If you listen to anything long enough, you'll begin to like it :) Serendipity in music should not be an issue -- Ryan Snowden Managing Director Digital Dusk +61 (0) 415263714 Perth, Western Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:11 PM To: Ryan Snowden Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; 'Maxim Sullivan' Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos No - but maybe it should challenge you a bit. Otherwise it's a case of give me another song just like the last one because it was a hit - and then you're just like the mainstream commercial pop world. MEK Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Maxim Sullivan' music.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 01/27/04 09:05 AMSubject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos Listening to music shouldn't be hard :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:05 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I've listened to it a few times now off the RA file - I really like the groove it's in and I think it's just a matter of getting used to the sound of the lead instrument. Yeah, it sounds a bit flat but that's the sound of the Flamenco guitar style (or emulated guitar as the case may be). I think come Movement 04 it will be all over the place, like it or not. I'd enjoy hearing remixes/covers of it similar to the Hundred Birds version of Jaguar. Get it to John Arnold and let him have a go at a version. I like it, I'll buy it MEK Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos 01/27/04 05:33 AM Hi Folks, New lost hermanos you can listen to here!!! http://www.loshermanos.com/ Word Max
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Well there is the saying.. If you listen to anything long enough, you'll begin to like it :) LOL - and we have the top 40 to prove that saying correct! Serendipity in music should not be an issue You're joking right? I think there is serendipity in music all the time and it's a huge issue - in fact I'd have to say that techno music is and was dependent on serendipity. You discover new things by experimentation - things you aren't searching for but find work and even bring you to a next level. So if you could explain to me why or how serendipity should not be an issue in regard to music I'd love to hear it... MEK
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take the batteries out of the 303 and put em back in...instant phuture :) seredipity right there robin... Well there is the saying.. If you listen to anything long enough, you'll begin to like it :) LOL - and we have the top 40 to prove that saying correct! Serendipity in music should not be an issue You're joking right? I think there is serendipity in music all the time and it's a huge issue - in fact I'd have to say that techno music is and was dependent on serendipity. You discover new things by experimentation - things you aren't searching for but find work and even bring you to a next level. So if you could explain to me why or how serendipity should not be an issue in regard to music I'd love to hear it...
Re: (313) Los Hermanos
I liked that track online, it is funky and sounds really happy, i do think it sounds better then the previous LH release actually. On 27-jan-04, at 15:09, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: ive had it for like a month or so now, actually even longer. im not sure what ya'll are smoking, its pretty much a very nice tune. the b side i dont know about, but ive played and heard out the a side and people dig it. it definitely doesnt sound like their other stuff, which may be what you guys arent feeling.
RE: (313) Los Hermanos
DJ Bone played it in London at the weekend. It sounded phat. I was very, very drunk though. :0/ -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 3:54 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I liked that track online, it is funky and sounds really happy, i do think it sounds better then the previous LH release actually. On 27-jan-04, at 15:09, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: ive had it for like a month or so now, actually even longer. im not sure what ya'll are smoking, its pretty much a very nice tune. the b side i dont know about, but ive played and heard out the a side and people dig it. it definitely doesnt sound like their other stuff, which may be what you guys arent feeling. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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The other side is MUCH better.. doesn't seem to be on that MP3 on the los Hermanos website though ! Eamonn / D1 -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:56 PM To: 'kj at technotourist dot org'; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos DJ Bone played it in London at the weekend. It sounded phat. I was very, very drunk though. :0/ -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2004 3:54 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos I liked that track online, it is funky and sounds really happy, i do think it sounds better then the previous LH release actually. On 27-jan-04, at 15:09, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: ive had it for like a month or so now, actually even longer. im not sure what ya'll are smoking, its pretty much a very nice tune. the b side i dont know about, but ive played and heard out the a side and people dig it. it definitely doesnt sound like their other stuff, which may be what you guys arent feeling. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres?
Yeah I like 'em too. Although I agree that they'll raise eyebrows 'cause they are purely plastic calibrated machines! Actually, they remind me of the newish Motech tracks which are also pretty linear, simplistic and minimal. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:02 PM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: RE: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres? It should be available in europe mid next week A good record by the way, even though there are only 4 tool tracks on it. Very stripped down functional tracks and no Jaguar-esque hit on it pure Detroit funk! Cheers, Arne Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ramon Crespo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2003 13:25 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres? Anyone know when this is out? Now :)) The site says coming soon and offers a link to side b1 of the vinyl. Which sounds great but I want this on vinyl. Well they were selling them at SID last week -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de TECHNOIR AUDIO Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. NATIVE Rec. °°°
RE: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres?
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ramon Crespo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2003 13:25 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres? Anyone know when this is out? Now :)) The site says coming soon and offers a link to side b1 of the vinyl. Which sounds great but I want this on vinyl. Well they were selling them at SID last week -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres?
Someone else hears Manu Dibango Soul Makossa in the background or a rather punchy reprise of Manu Dibango's original anthem ? or it's just me ? I'm raving |-Original Message- |From: Ramon Crespo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:14 PM |To: Jongsma, K.J. |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres? | | |Jongsma, K.J. wrote: | |saw it on this week's watts list. | |I'll pick it up. | |quite excited. | |Regards, |Ramon | |-Oorspronkelijk bericht- |Van: Ramon Crespo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Verzonden: maandag 2 juni 2003 13:25 |Aan: 313@hyperreal.org |Onderwerp: (313) Los Hermanos - Tres? | | |Anyone know when this is out? | | | |Now :)) | | | | |The site says coming soon and offers a link to side b1 of the vinyl. |Which sounds great but I want this on vinyl. | | | |Well they were selling them at SID last week | |-- |DISCLAIMER | |De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele |aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of |ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). | |Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op |de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen |garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus |vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail |berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen |te controleren. |-- | | | | | | |
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
Didn't Juan Atkins say in that black to the future interview that Red Planet invented trance? Just because something has a nice string arrangement doesn't mean I'll buy it, BIG F*cking deal, so a lot of you have figured out how to make tracks with stings, pads, and portamento. It's not very hard is it? Let me dust off my old Fuse Dimension Intrusion, and Psyche +8 records from 1993. As far as Los Hermanos it does have a trance quality, it's one of those 60/40 trance/ tech-house tracks which I'm sure like Jaquar will be a real crowed pleaser. That Hiroki Esashika record I mentioned before has a futuristic Infinity, Robert Hood vibe.
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
At 17:34 -0600 10-12-2002, techno wrote: Didn't Juan Atkins say in that black to the future interview that Red Planet invented trance? There is nothing wrong with a track being trance, please people there have been trance records before people saw trance as some cheesy genre. Maybe everybody knows this by now but Stardancer is a huge trance record, even records like Aril Brikha's On and On are hypnotizing, so that is trance as well, UR's Seawolf, trance... techno can be trance, i like trance records! Just because something has a nice string arrangement doesn't mean I'll buy it, BIG F*cking deal, so a lot of you have figured out how to make tracks with stings, pads, and portamento. It's not very hard is it? No it isn't... so making a record must be difficult and really heavy before it is any good? Oh dear i hope this is not turning into what is good and bad techno kinda threads... Let me dust off my old Fuse Dimension Intrusion, and Psyche +8 records from 1993. Dust it of? : As far as Los Hermanos it does have a trance quality, it's one of those 60/40 trance/ tech-house tracks which I'm sure like Jaquar will be a real crowed pleaser. My point, a record can be trance but not trance and it is really personal if you like that in track or not and you can' about taste :) Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
on 12/10/02 7:34 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 17:34 -0600 10-12-2002, techno wrote: Didn't Juan Atkins say in that black to the future interview that Red Planet invented trance? There is nothing wrong with a track being trance, please people there have been trance records before people saw trance as some cheesy genre. Maybe everybody knows this by now but Stardancer is a huge trance record, even records like Aril Brikha's On and On are hypnotizing, so that is trance as well, UR's Seawolf, trance... techno can be trance, i like trance records! UR's Seawolf = Detroit acid Aril Brikha's On and On = tech-house hypnotic does not = trance When I use the word trance it's what people assosiate the music genre with today. Just because something has a nice string arrangement doesn't mean I'll buy it, BIG F*cking deal, so a lot of you have figured out how to make tracks with stings, pads, and portamento. It's not very hard is it? No it isn't... so making a record must be difficult and really heavy before it is any good? Oh dear i hope this is not turning into what is good and bad techno kinda threads... I like forward thinking sounding techno with a futuristic vibe. I'm not one of these guys who hears a new record with stings and pads and thinks that's quality Detroit techno or dismisses every hard techno record. Let me dust off my old Fuse Dimension Intrusion, and Psyche +8 records from 1993. Dust it of? : occasionally I go through some of my old records when I'm in the mood for a particular record. My point, a record can be trance but not trance and it is really personal if you like that in track or not and you can' about taste :) Well there are those trance tracks that sound so cheesy their almost laughable. I was listening to this Hispanic (latino) mix radio show and they were playing a trance remix of Michael Jakson You Are Not Alone. I once thought about recording trance off the radio and mixing loops with Robert Hood style minimal techno. Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels and music projects.
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
techno wrote on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 about following: Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels and music projects. why do you think it's ironic? so should we diss them then ? would it be better ? what if these people actually REALLY like the music they talk about ? isn't this list a good way to have communication channel between the crowd and the artist ? and aren't opinions quite important when discussing about art ? sakke, pretends to be a big question mark -- new music available for download at http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
Van: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels and music projects. Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. There are a lot of likeminded people on this list so some of them run a record label and/or produce the music you like and if i can't say that i like that because you think i am just hyping listmembers then i think your just here to troll around [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. There are a lot of likeminded people on this list so some of them run a record label and/or produce the music you like and if i can't say that i like that because you think i am just hyping listmembers then i think your just here to troll around Too true. I've heard the tracks from $tinkworx's new Keynote 12 as well and they are all superb. He's got that kinda underproduced style that just makes his music feel incredibly funky and raw. I'm also lucky enough to have another EPs worth of tracks that I'm waiting to put out myself and again they are all amazing, with a style that is completley unique to him, and that is quite a rare thing. I didn't sign them because hes a list member I signed them because they are dope tracks! This list helps bring music partnerships and like minded people together for sure, but good music is still good music. Stewart ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
| -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
the way that trance is written accentuates the timing signatures used. typically detroit sequencing rules allow for a bit more timing freedoms, thus more swing to the patterns, which may be what you speak of. you cant pick on a hit on the downbeat tho.. I watch crowds at shows to better understnad what they like in relation to what I like (for my own live sets) and I've seen the crowd visibly and audibly react to the introduction of a hit on the downbeat. I do think that everyone should put their 909s away for 5 years or so tho :) Im pretty sick of *that* open hat. -Joe - Original Message - From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:34 AM Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan
RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
Don't forget the unfunky tr*nce bass lines. I don't know if I ever heard a tr*nce track that didn't have either one bass not between each kick drum (pk pow pk pow...), or an arpaggiated 3 note bass line that goes tadadam tadadam I've challenged some people I know who play tr*nce to name me one track with different bass line, and they we're unable to :) I'm talking of modern tr*nce, as there seamed to be more diversity in what was classified as tr*nce pre 95 or something. Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. december 2002 11:34 To: fabrice Lig; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan
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All these faults seem to beg the question: (to me at least) if trance so crap, why do so many millions of people like ? The answer, if we care to face it, will lead us back to something dark and sad about human nature. k -Original Message- From: Jernej Marusic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:52 AM To: 'Brendan Nelson'; 'fabrice Lig'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... Don't forget the unfunky tr*nce bass lines. I don't know if I ever heard a tr*nce track that didn't have either one bass not between each kick drum (pk pow pk pow...), or an arpaggiated 3 note bass line that goes tadadam tadadam I've challenged some people I know who play tr*nce to name me one track with different bass line, and they we're unable to :) I'm talking of modern tr*nce, as there seamed to be more diversity in what was classified as tr*nce pre 95 or something. Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. december 2002 11:34 To: fabrice Lig; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan
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It's all about the 'ghost notes' in drum patterns that fill in the gaps for funk. Also, the way the Bassline works with the beats is key. I've studied dance beats for around 12 years and always wondered how a certain track was swinging so much. To begin with I thought the Hats must be off the beat but after many years gradually realised that you can make a track funky by adding just a simple little shaker or closed hat to a kick and bass line. It's amazing how such small details in a mix can produce grooves whereas if you were to take them out a track could sound very bland indeed. As for Trance, one of the main reasons it doesn't often swing so much is to do with Tempo in my opinion. Trance in the main comes in at around 135-140 bpm. The slower the track, the more space there is to play with in the mix so the ear naturally has time to pick up on the ghost notes etc. Production is also key, getting those levels and compression right also affects the groove. Trance is generally very bright and at times over produced which detracts from the underlying grove. Bergz. Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/12/2002 10:34:27 To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan
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my flatmate listens to some of this 'psy-trance' bizness ... some of it wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt for the perpetual 4x4 - every single tune Ive heard played from this genre has a very 'clean' almost clinical 4x4 beat which imo makes it pretty dull and repetitive and inorganic. One of the things I like about detroit stuff is the variety in the drum programming and the way some tracks have this almost 'underproduced' sound to the drums in that theyre very gritty and dirty - this is often the case with jeff mills stuff I find. Then on the other hand Ive got some richie hawtin stuff which is totally the other end of the spectrum Also it is noticeable the way in which 'detroit' covers so much more than 1 particular style or formula - All you have to do is check through the UR cat to find techno,electro,house and garage !!! peace, Marc -Original Message- From: Jernej Marusic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2002 10:52 To: 'Brendan Nelson'; 'fabrice Lig'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... Don't forget the unfunky tr*nce bass lines. I don't know if I ever heard a tr*nce track that didn't have either one bass not between each kick drum (pk pow pk pow...), or an arpaggiated 3 note bass line that goes tadadam tadadam I've challenged some people I know who play tr*nce to name me one track with different bass line, and they we're unable to :) I'm talking of modern tr*nce, as there seamed to be more diversity in what was classified as tr*nce pre 95 or something. Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. december 2002 11:34 To: fabrice Lig; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | -Original Message- | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | Could we try to find a list of differences... | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | Melodies, chords, ... | But in the reality... | I give you the first difference ;-) | 1)Detroit music is funky. That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from funk, but I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between Detroit techno and the trance sound. What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it comes down to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, must glue over the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer does anything with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick drum, closed hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance Police for heresy! But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? Brendan -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
That Hiroki Esashika record I mentioned before has a futuristic Infinity, Robert Hood vibe. Hi, i think i missed your mention, can you explain again please thanks fab. - Original Message - From: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... Didn't Juan Atkins say in that black to the future interview that Red Planet invented trance? Just because something has a nice string arrangement doesn't mean I'll buy it, BIG F*cking deal, so a lot of you have figured out how to make tracks with stings, pads, and portamento. It's not very hard is it? Let me dust off my old Fuse Dimension Intrusion, and Psyche +8 records from 1993. As far as Los Hermanos it does have a trance quality, it's one of those 60/40 trance/ tech-house tracks which I'm sure like Jaquar will be a real crowed pleaser. That Hiroki Esashika record I mentioned before has a futuristic Infinity, Robert Hood vibe.
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I was going to try to mae that point about ghost notes and the gaps between the beats being used to inject funkiness, but wasn't able to articulate it as well as you've done below. Here's another thought, although a much more abstract one - an unfunky electronic rhythm goes up and down (ie, the dancer is tempted to just pogo to the track), while a funky electronic rhythm goes round and round (the dancer is tempted to get busy)? And another, more P-Funky, thought - you don't qualify as being on the one just because you have a crash cymbal every four bars! Brendan | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 11 December 2002 11:02 | To: Brendan Nelson | Cc: fabrice Lig; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | | | | | It's all about the 'ghost notes' in drum patterns that fill | in the gaps | for funk. Also, the way the Bassline works with the beats is key. I've | studied dance beats for around 12 years and always wondered | how a certain | track was swinging so much. To begin with I thought the Hats | must be off | the beat but after many years gradually realised that you can | make a track | funky by adding just a simple little shaker or closed hat to | a kick and | bass line. It's amazing how such small details in a mix can | produce grooves | whereas if you were to take them out a track could sound very | bland indeed. | | As for Trance, one of the main reasons it doesn't often swing | so much is to | do with Tempo in my opinion. Trance in the main comes in at | around 135-140 | bpm. The slower the track, the more space there is to play | with in the mix | so the ear naturally has time to pick up on the ghost notes etc. | | Production is also key, getting those levels and compression | right also | affects the groove. Trance is generally very bright and at times over | produced which detracts from the underlying grove. | | Bergz. | | | | | Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/12/2002 10:34:27 | | To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org | cc: | | Subject: RE: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno... | | | | -Original Message- | | From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: 10 December 2002 22:31 | | | | I know what is trance music...It was huge here. | | Could we try to find a list of differences... | | On the paper, finaly there is common points... | | Melodies, chords, ... | | But in the reality... | | I give you the first difference ;-) | | 1)Detroit music is funky. | | That's definitely true - I can't remember if it was Eddie Fowlkes or | Kevin Saunderson who said the hardness in techno comes from | funk, but | I've always seen funk as the main differentiator between | Detroit techno | and the trance sound. | | What makes trance unfunky? I think that a large amount of it | comes down | to the drum programming. Trance producers, I can imagine, | must glue over | the shuffle button on their drum machines so that it can never be | turned on. Also, you can imagine that if a trance producer | does anything | with the hi-hats other than open hi-hat between each kick | drum, closed | hi-hat on the beat, he/she would get arrested by the Trance | Police for | heresy! | | But even when Detroit records use those most basic of drum patterns, | there is still a funk there that you don't find in trance. Why? | | Brendan | | | | |
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| -Original Message- | From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 11 December 2002 11:07 | | if trance so crap, why do so many millions of people like it? Because if you had a research budget of a billion dollars, and commissioned a huge team of world-renowned biologists, musicologists, neuro-scientists, drug manufacturers and synth builders to spend ten years developing the optimal audio accompaniment to the average human's Ecstasy experience, they would eventually come out of their labs with a psy-trance compilation! Trance is built almost exclusively out of the most low-common-denominator elements in music which stimulate people on Ecstasy, from the snare rolls to the grandiose strings and acidic arpeggios. Trance fans know that, when a trance DJ is playing, they're not really going to be challenged in any way - no-one's going to drop Leo Anibaldi or Pole in a trance club! Basically, trance *is* the perfect Ecstasy music, so when people who don't really like music take Ecstacy for the first time, trance music is like a revelation to them. And that's why so many people like trance, I reckon. Brendan
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I'm with KJ. Can I get a promo? ;) Seriously, it just so happens that the best techno being made right now is by people on or near to 313. Running through my favourite ten or twenty records this year I see several on Delsin, Rush Hour, Down Low and Emoticon. It's not all that surprising, perhaps: the best music tends to come out of groups of people all contributing ideas and communicating with each other. One of the great things about 313 is that it's facilitated a lot of that. It's seriously reaffirmed *my* faith in any music business, in any case - it can be done on a cottage industry level, and it can be a lot more fun and rewarding doing it that way. And all I do is DJ at friends' parties sometimes. Jonny Oh and i just got a preview of the new $tinkworks on Keynote and it is f**king great. Now i have a lot of his records but this one is definitly the best one i have heard until now... Oh and i am not forced to write this :) Isn't it ironic that fellow 313ers tend to mostly hype each others labels and music projects. Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. There are a lot of likeminded people on this list so some of them run a record label and/or produce the music you like and if i can't say that i like that because you think i am just hyping listmembers then i think your just here to troll around
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| if trance so crap, why do so many millions of people like it? Because if you had a research budget of a billion dollars, and commissioned a huge team of world-renowned biologists, musicologists, neuro-scientists, drug manufacturers and synth builders to spend ten years developing the optimal audio accompaniment to the average human's Ecstasy experience, they would eventually come out of their labs with a psy-trance compilation! :) Trance is built almost exclusively out of the most low-common-denominator elements in music which stimulate people on Ecstasy, from the snare rolls to the grandiose strings and acidic arpeggios. Trance fans know that, when a trance DJ is playing, they're not really going to be challenged in any way - no-one's going to drop Leo Anibaldi or Pole in a trance club! Basically, trance *is* the perfect Ecstasy music, so when people who don't really like music take Ecstacy for the first time, trance music is like a revelation to them. And that's why so many people like trance, I reckon. not entirely sure that's true cos the same could be said of looped banger style techno...(which seems to be heading off in the direction of breakdowns...eek) also trance's popularity feeds back into itself: people go out and have an E experience to trance and then think that's their fave music. if you sent the same people out to a good detroit techno night (ie. good dj, people in club really into it) on the same substance then they'll be more inclined to think that is the music they like. i agree with you about people not liking to be challenged tho and trance fits the bill perfectly, there is also the emotional aspect to trance that appeals to people brought up on rock music... anyway, that's enough from me :) robin...
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| -Original Message- | From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 11 December 2002 12:32 | | And that's why so many people like trance, I reckon. | | not entirely sure that's true cos the same could be said of looped | banger style techno... I think that the looped banger stuff isn't quite what my team of scientists would come up with as the perfect Ecstasy music, although perhaps they'd submit a bunch of Drumcode records and tell me this is for people whose E's have been cut with amphetamines... :) | also trance's popularity feeds back into itself: people go | out and have an | E experience to trance and then think that's their fave | music. if you sent | the same people out to a good detroit techno night (ie. good | dj, people in club really into it) on the same substance | then they'll be more inclined to think that is the music they like. That's true, and that's what was good about the days before the great divide - a lot of people were turning up at clubs and hearing good techno, and becoming fans of that music as a result. But I'd qualify what I said by applying it mainly to people who don't actually like music very much... With people like that, you might catch them early on and get them into good Detroit music initially, but if you let them out of your sight for ten minutes they'll be asking HMV staff for recommendations and walking out with a stack of Oakenfold mix CDs, which they'll no doubt get seriously into... as trance music is more accessible for normal people, who don't care enough about music to hunt down individual tracks and start buying loads of anonymous-looking EPs. | there is also the emotional aspect to trance that | appeals to people brought up on rock music... It's the stadium thing isn't it? Trance is kind of stadium electronic music, I think, and so in that sense it's probably quite a valid replacement for stadium rock. Brendan
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Personally I think the re-introduction of melody/harmony/song structure into techno recently takes much more influence from old disco and house than trance. Funny this should come up as recently I suggested that Inspiration on UR was very trance like with its big lead line. What I wouldn't want to see is a scene where people are afraid of using these elements because they might be accused of being 'trancey'. Personally I'd rather listen to Jaguar than looped bangers any day. emile
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Hey Steven. The people on this list who make music are nice people. And It is not like we hype each other's stuff up. We are just encouraging each other and that is a good thing. I buy Marsel's Delsin releases, and Fabrice's records and Jason Brunton and Otto's records. There are a lot of talented people on this list. known and unknown. One thing is for sure, we support each other and that is a good thing when you think about some of the past history of electronic music and all the back stabbing and sh*t talking people do to each other. You can really help this list out more by doing record reviews of your favorite records at the moment or giving your thoughts on something techno or 313 related. Most people will appreciate it. minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org OUT NOW: Arne Weinberg Beauty in Decay dL008 Convextion 12 dLVEXT1 UPCOMING 2003: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX Polarius 12 dL009 Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 The Connection Machine Painless dLCMLP1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Los hermanos/trancey/Detroit techno...
When I use the word trance it's what people assosiate the music genre with today. That's too bad - you've been duped and lied to and you believe the hype just like the rest of the TRANCE! lovers then. MEK ps to Andrew - thanks to the insightful way of typographically representing that awful sound.
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I don't think you'll have any disagreements as to the quality of artist and labels that participate on the 313 list but to say the best techno is coming out of the 313 list community is in my opinion a bit of a stretch. For example, you say you dj at friends parties and yet more notable UK techno dj's like Dave Clarke who draw tens of thousands of fans at any given night have Detroit techno listed in his Top 10's (go to his web site) not even mentioned on 313. on 12/11/02 6:22 AM, Jonny McIntosh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with KJ. Can I get a promo? ;) Seriously, it just so happens that the best techno being made right now is by people on or near to 313. Running through my favourite ten or twenty records this year I see several on Delsin, Rush Hour, Down Low and Emoticon. It's not all that surprising, perhaps: the best music tends to come out of groups of people all contributing ideas and communicating with each other. One of the great things about 313 is that it's facilitated a lot of that. It's seriously reaffirmed *my* faith in any music business, in any case - it can be done on a cottage industry level, and it can be a lot more fun and rewarding doing it that way. And all I do is DJ at friends' parties sometimes. Jonny
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on 12/11/02 2:08 AM, Jongsma, K.J. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. I'm sorry you find that insulting. I only trust my own ears when it comes to music. There are a lot of likeminded people on this list so some of them run a record label and/or produce the music you like and if i can't say that i like that because you think i am just hyping listmembers then i think your just here to troll around [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can think or say what ever you want. I was just stating an observation. People don't have to reply to my email, use your judgment if you think my opinions are not honest and sincere ignore my post.
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At 10:36 -0600 11-12-2002, techno wrote: on 12/11/02 2:08 AM, Jongsma, K.J. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Mr. 'Techno' isn't it ironic that you question the credebility of listmembers. I find it really insulting that you do not believe me when i say that a record is good. I'm sorry you find that insulting. I only trust my own ears when it comes to music. that's not what this is about i never said you should like it, just that i liked and you replied by saying we are hyping other 313 members music, that was the insulting part was bout. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 12/11/02 2:01 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's not what this is about i never said you should like it, just that i liked and you replied by saying we are hyping other 313 members music, that was the insulting part was bout. Yes, that would be a natural emotional response to my hype statement. Now can we please put this subject matter to rest.
Re: (313) Los Hermanos: new vinyl
Well, hes spinningn next week here, so hopefully ill be able to testify on his latest gig fab. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: (313) Los Hermanos: new vinyl Knowing (about) Rolando, his recent moves, gigs little snippets of opinion, I can't believe the below. But I'll make up my mind when I hear it. k -Original Message- From: Stephen Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: new vinyl recommendations previously.. the new los hermanos quetzal was a little disapointing, it sounds a little cheesy like trance, i don't see what all the hype is about. hey, i can agree on this one if marsel says it's trance then it's trance - he once boasted to me that he has even more trance records than paul oakenfold.. i can't verify this though - i've only seen his country collection ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] np jerry reed 'east bound and down' (smokey and the bandit soundtrack) _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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I can see the one track Quetzal being called trance (that is trance with a little t) but I don't think it's cheesy at all. Sure it's really smooth but what the hell is wrong with that? It's a beautiful trance track like Model 500's Starlight. Just too bad that the word trance has been hijacked by a bunch of people who just clearly *don't know* i.e. Oakenfold, Sasha Digweed, Timo Maas, and all those other people who have given up soul and feeling (or never had it in the first place) for a fat pocketbook and their picture on the cover of magazines with the title Ibiza's most popular DJ. That goes for the fans of this music too who are clueless. MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Stephen Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org ones.comcc: Subject: (313) Los Hermanos: new vinyl 12/10/02 08:50 AM Knowing (about) Rolando, his recent moves, gigs little snippets of opinion, I can't believe the below. But I'll make up my mind when I hear it. k -Original Message- From: Stephen Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: new vinyl recommendations previously.. the new los hermanos quetzal was a little disapointing, it sounds a little cheesy like trance, i don't see what all the hype is about. hey, i can agree on this one if marsel says it's trance then it's trance - he once boasted to me that he has even more trance records than paul oakenfold.. i can't verify this though - i've only seen his country collection ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] np jerry reed 'east bound and down' (smokey and the bandit soundtrack) _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Los Hermanos: new vinyl
Knowing (about) Rolando, his recent moves, gigs little snippets of opinion, I can't believe the below. But I'll make up my mind when I hear it. mp3s at www.loshermanos.com i can see the epic quality of trance in there but there is still a place in techno for that if you ask me. i'm pretty sure trance doesn't use the 727 either :) robin...
Re: (313) Los Hermanos: new vinyl
robin pinning wrote on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 about following: Knowing (about) Rolando, his recent moves, gigs little snippets of opinion, I can't believe the below. But I'll make up my mind when I hear it. mp3s at www.loshermanos.com quetzal is pretty much safe and boring house track that goes nowhere; i wouldn't buy it. it just does nothing. i don't get the trance reference here. it sure does remind jaguar a bit; but i never liked jaguar. it's kind of music you hear and instantly forget what it was like. nothing jumps out of the track that makes you feel good or makes you puke. sakke -- new music available for download at http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
[313] Hipnotech was Re: [313] Los Hermanos
music policy, everything from RB to Aril Brikha! Also, I would love to know how the Hipnotech stuff sounds? Any feedback on this? I quite enjoy the Hipnotech stuff. Nice laid back hip hop beats with a minimal tech flavour. I'm sure you'd dig it Cyclone. http://www.hipnotech.com http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/GT/srvlt/GTController?action=MusicSearchpage=shopping_music.jspKeyword=RowCount=10XMLType=Music+Image+List+HTMLTitle=GenreID=FormatID=Artist=SubGenreID=AttributeID=Label=hipnotechCountry=StockStatus=ALL _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Me, I really love the new site! Easy to use, nothing fancy and nothing crashable, just good info with cool links - and I love the intro. How come no one ever talks about these cabarets on 313 - this sounds like my fantasy music policy, everything from RB to Aril Brikha! Also, I would love to know how the Hipnotech stuff sounds? Any feedback on this? -- From: Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Los Hermanos Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 2:36 PM Agreed. It's a pretty sad day when 313 members start bagging on Submerge, Who in my opinion is doing one hell of a job and I personally appreciate all of their hard work. wow, 313 sure is testy lately. Everyone is allowed to have opinions and we will not all agree. Let's keep this a safe place to express opinions and not jump down people's throats all the time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| -Original Message- | From: rob webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 12 March 2002 11:45 | | sounding good... http://www.submerge.com/loshermanos.html. That is a *very* nice track... when's it due out? Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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me: sounding good... http://www.submerge.com/loshermanos.html. Brendan: That is a *very* nice track... when's it due out? i dunno. the Submerge site says coming soon. can't be soon enough imho. same as the new UR Inspiration it's available to order direct from Submerge thru their online estore, but i've no idea whether you'd get the records quicker that way. rob _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i'm really starting to dislike these submerge previews. that just let us hear the opening build of the track. that can't be all the record does. if it is all that the record does, than this is a sad state of affairs. how about letting us hear the good parts? On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, rob webb wrote: sounding good... http://www.submerge.com/loshermanos.html. rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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actually, i was talking with the submerge crew the other day, and they specifically told me that they left out the good parts just because they know you get frustrated and the virtual tease they give you. they honestly had a dry erase board with the words TEASE JOSH GLAZER written in big black marker. underneath was Mike Banks' signature. and then (and this is the BEST part) there was a recipe for chili con carne on the desk. just so you know he has you in mind when placing the audio clips up. i'm just looking out for you. vote quimby. and five bucks says state makes it to at least the quarterfinals. anyone want to bet me? msg privately. martha stewart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:13 PM To: rob webb Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Los Hermanos i'm really starting to dislike these submerge previews. that just let us hear the opening build of the track. that can't be all the record does. if it is all that the record does, than this is a sad state of affairs. how about letting us hear the good parts? On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, rob webb wrote: sounding good... http://www.submerge.com/loshermanos.html. rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm really starting to dislike these submerge previews. that must be terrible for you. i'm sorry... i'll take a moment to consider your pain. i hope it's not taken the shine off your day. say, Mike, Genesis, do you see what you've done? that just let us hear the opening build of the track. look, it's a preview. nothing more, nothing less. it's supposed to whet your appetite. it's a teaser... a taste of things to come. that can't be all the record does. probably yeah. i'd imagine that it's 6 to 6 1/2 minutes, perhaps even 7 minutes, of that 30 second clip fading-in and then fading-out again. it's Submerge's take on the recent looped bangers (copyright: r pinning) fad. the secret's in the transition between the fading-out and fading-in you know. if it is all that the record does, than this is a sad state of affairs. hmm, i think we've been here before haven't we? you weren't so keen on the preview of Inspiration either were you? ahh well, your loss. how about letting us hear the good parts? why don't you drop Submerge an email and suggest that they let you hear the good parts? i'm sure they'd appreciate some constructive comments tendered in private. rob _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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oh i forgot- you have to worship all things detroit to be on this list. twice this month i have eagerly gone to the submerge website to hear a new release preview. and both times, i got these uninspiring lo-quality blurbs. here's an idea. why not play 3 different 10 sec parts of the track? just like you would if you were previewing a track at the store. then we could really get an idea what the track is all about. isn't that the point of a preview. although i suppose mike banks could fart into a microphone and you'd call it brilliant. On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, rob webb wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm really starting to dislike these submerge previews. that must be terrible for you. i'm sorry... i'll take a moment to consider your pain. i hope it's not taken the shine off your day. say, Mike, Genesis, do you see what you've done? that just let us hear the opening build of the track. look, it's a preview. nothing more, nothing less. it's supposed to whet your appetite. it's a teaser... a taste of things to come. that can't be all the record does. probably yeah. i'd imagine that it's 6 to 6 1/2 minutes, perhaps even 7 minutes, of that 30 second clip fading-in and then fading-out again. it's Submerge's take on the recent looped bangers (copyright: r pinning) fad. the secret's in the transition between the fading-out and fading-in you know. if it is all that the record does, than this is a sad state of affairs. hmm, i think we've been here before haven't we? you weren't so keen on the preview of Inspiration either were you? ahh well, your loss. how about letting us hear the good parts? why don't you drop Submerge an email and suggest that they let you hear the good parts? i'm sure they'd appreciate some constructive comments tendered in private. rob _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jesus I can't believe how pointlessly nitpicking these comments are! Guys like Submerge have been tirelessly putting out great music for years and all you can do is moan about the samples one or two months before the tracks are even due out! I run a label and personally choose to put longer samples on the site, once the records are available, but you want to keep an element of surprise for when these things drop. I'm sure if you wanted you could spend a week visiting every other label's site and complain similarly about many more. Nobodys asking you to shell out cash right now on the back of these samples (although I have and should be getting the white labels next week:), but if they wet your appetite and build excitement to hearing more nearer the release date then what is the problem? And as for the quality of the samples, well not everyone has high speed connections and there still aren't many sites that record soundfiles for more than a 56k modem where you are bound to lose a lot of quality. I'm personally just glad that Submerge are making more of an effort these days with thier site redesign and mail outs to open thier sound up to more people. Come on, theres been more than enough crap spoken recently, lets get back to some sensible discussion and constructive comments. Cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.digital-soul.co.uk oh i forgot- you have to worship all things detroit to be on this list. twice this month i have eagerly gone to the submerge website to hear a new release preview. and both times, i got these uninspiring lo-quality blurbs. here's an idea. why not play 3 different 10 sec parts of the track? just like you would if you were previewing a track at the store. then we could really get an idea what the track is all about. isn't that the point of a preview. although i suppose mike banks could fart into a microphone and you'd call it brilliant. ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wow, 313 sure is testy lately. Everyone is allowed to have opinions and we will not all agree. Let's keep this a safe place to express opinions and not jump down people's throats all the time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: you have to worship all things detroit to be on this list. um, no, i don't recall that being anywhere on the list info pages at http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/. twice this month i have eagerly gone to the submerge website to hear a new release preview. and both times, i got these uninspiring lo-quality blurbs. once again, i'm sorry you are so uninspired. my response is the opposite, and i'm looking forward to the records coming out. here's an idea. why not play 3 different 10 sec parts of the track? just like you would if you were previewing a track at the store. that's a fair call. why don't you email Submerge and suggest it? then we could really get an idea what the track is all about. isn't that the point of a preview. it is. i hear enough from the 30 seconds, but if you don't then that's cool. although i suppose mike banks could fart into a microphone and you'd call it brilliant. hahahah, nice one. you really extended yourself there. mind, that technique's been done to death by Herbert. rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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robert fixer: wow, 313 sure is testy lately. Everyone is allowed to have opinions and we will not all agree. Let's keep this a safe place to express opinions and not jump down people's throats all the time. who's testy? ;) that's fair enough tho. i responded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s email because he raised a coupla points that i disagree with and, frankly, felt were unreasonable. i apologise if my comments have been a little sarcastic in tone at times. it's something i can't shake, much like biting my nails, swearing and eating fried eggs (not all at the same time i hasten to add). rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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in the matters of opinion, debate is futile. there is no accounting for taste. this should be in the FAQ. -Original Message- From: R.Y.Fixer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Los Hermanos wow, 313 sure is testy lately. Everyone is allowed to have opinions and we will not all agree. Let's keep this a safe place to express opinions and not jump down people's throats all the time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Los Hermanos (stop!!)
i dont fight other people in my life. but then i have to watch this discussions all day and absorve this terrible feeling that some people seems to like. why dont we replay the guy who ask for the influences on dresciya's work? this would be cool.. -- Mensagem original --- De : rob webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: 313@hyperreal.org Cc : Data: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:50:13 + Assunto : Re: [313] Los Hermanos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you have to worship all things detroit to be on this list. um, no, i don't recall that being anywhere on the list info pages at http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/. twice this month i have eagerly gone to the submerge website to hear a new release preview. and both times, i got these uninspiring lo-quality blurbs. once again, i'm sorry you are so uninspired. my response is the opposite, and i'm looking forward to the records coming out. here's an idea. why not play 3 different 10 sec parts of the track? just like you would if you were previewing a track at the store. that's a fair call. why don't you email Submerge and suggest it? then we could really get an idea what the track is all about. isn't that the point of a preview. it is. i hear enough from the 30 seconds, but if you don't then that's cool. although i suppose mike banks could fart into a microphone and you'd call it brilliant. hahahah, nice one. you really extended yourself there. mind, that technique's been done to death by Herbert. rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrique casanova S.O.M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I replied to Stewart's mail, sorry I didn't include any of his in my reply. he was in the to: field though, thought that would be enough to identify what I meant. On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 21:01, rob webb wrote: who's testy? ;) that's fair enough tho. i responded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s email because he raised a coupla points that i disagree with and, frankly, felt were unreasonable. i apologise if my comments have been a little sarcastic in tone at times. it's something i can't shake, much like biting my nails, swearing and eating fried eggs (not all at the same time i hasten to add). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Los Hermanos
I think you're way ahead of the curve on three counts Ryan ... pls give more
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From: Pryor, Ryan N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:20 AM
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Subject: [313] Los Hermanos
{{Sorry if this was already discussed previously}}
Has anyone heard any of the new dj Rolando 12 Birth of 3000 (cat.# LH-1)
due out soon on Los Hermanos?
Is this his new label?
`Ryan`
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