Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

[Chuck McCown]

I couldn’t find my trench coat, shades and big hat...

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !

Figured you weren't heading to 50 Shades...  :-)

Jeff Broadwick 
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


  The Kingsman  -- OH MY HECK!!!  (Utah expression) 

  Combine a Bond film with Jason Bourne but a strong dash of Get Smart and a 
tiny bit of Austin Powers  and you have a very funny movie. 

  Right at first you are not sure how serious they are taking themselves, but 
as time goes on you start to get it.  

  There is a scene toward the end that was a scream!  Highly recommend.

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Chuck McCown]

I’ll post some photos of the beta units.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

With Rohn type tower, it seems there is a ton of bending/flexing with any 
weight, maybe a  welded smaller diameter for leg side specific up to Rohn 55G 
with larger pipe side up to around 2 3/8"?  Maybe a welded spacer from small 
side to large side (To get it away from the leg), kinda like MTow style but a 
solid piece? 

Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  We have a similar product to those now.  But my new stuff is totally 
different.

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:28 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

  Probably something similar to this 

  
http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/


  They also work great for Grain legs.

  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower Consulting
  er...@northcentraltower.com
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291

  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the best 
size.  I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the product out 
there on beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as you really don’t 
want larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough to want 4.5” is not 
going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3 
sizes, 2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.


bp


On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a 
Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

  And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

  The question is, what size pipe?
  I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
  Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

  The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large 
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
  Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I can't afford 8-12ms of latency 7 hops out... Time for some Full Duplex
links I suppose


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> The Mimosa seems awesome so far (Except for lack of SNMP support, which is
> coming in April).  If you have GPS sync it seems to run between 8ms-12ms.
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower Consulting
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> I was hoping to replace a Ligowave link I have that's running on 40mhz. I
>> don't feel like burning up a whole 80mhz of spectrum through, so I think
>> I'll be buying a PTP-650 especially since I need DFS freq's.
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> I see that they sell them on the 'Trango store' now too.  Pretty sweet.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm also.  It seems like doing
 something specific or something in the wrong order makes them not work.
 Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
> guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
> when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy 
> wrote:
>
>> I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent
>> attempts I did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that
>> point.  Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The 
>> platform
>> looks like it has a lot of potential.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy,
>>>
>>> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2
>>> hours to get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them 
>>> too. I
>>> wasn't following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I
>>> initially configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in 
>>> the
>>> manual. For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. 
>>> Even
>>> though I wasn't using the WAN port.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them
 to pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway <
 r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I
> was just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  
> Kurt,
> do you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
> Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>
>
>
> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench.
> Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz 
> via
> UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was
> 175-180'ish and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed 
> to be
> maxing out on the 2011's.
>
>
>
> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS
> bands but it doesn't :(
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>


>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

[Jaime Solorza]

Over hyped.  Steamier. Body Heat. And good story line .   L'art pour
l'artWhoa. Tecate kicking in

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 8:38 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> Figured you weren't heading to 50 Shades...  :-)
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>  The Kingsman  -- OH MY HECK!!!  (Utah expression)
>
> Combine a Bond film with Jason Bourne but a strong dash of Get Smart and a
> tiny bit of Austin Powers  and you have a very funny movie.
>
> Right at first you are not sure how serious they are taking themselves,
> but as time goes on you start to get it.
>
> There is a scene toward the end that was a scream!  Highly recommend.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Erich Kaiser]

The Mimosa seems awesome so far (Except for lack of SNMP support, which is
coming in April).  If you have GPS sync it seems to run between 8ms-12ms.

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> I was hoping to replace a Ligowave link I have that's running on 40mhz. I
> don't feel like burning up a whole 80mhz of spectrum through, so I think
> I'll be buying a PTP-650 especially since I need DFS freq's.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I see that they sell them on the 'Trango store' now too.  Pretty sweet.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm also.  It seems like doing
>>> something specific or something in the wrong order makes them not work.
>>> Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Jeremy,

 I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
 guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
 when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.


 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts
> I did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
> Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
> like it has a lot of potential.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours
>> to get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I
>> wasn't following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I
>> initially configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in 
>> the
>> manual. For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. 
>> Even
>> though I wasn't using the WAN port.
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them
>>> to pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway <
>>> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I
 was just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  
 Kurt,
 do you mind telling me what those radios cost?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
 Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results



 Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench.
 Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz 
 via
 UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was
 175-180'ish and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed 
 to be
 maxing out on the 2011's.



 Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS
 bands but it doesn't :(



 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Erich Kaiser]

Maybe offer a stiff-arm option for vendor specific dishes?

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Erich Kaiser 
wrote:

> With Rohn type tower, it seems there is a ton of bending/flexing with any
> weight, maybe a  welded smaller diameter for leg side specific up to Rohn
> 55G with larger pipe side up to around 2 3/8"?  Maybe a welded spacer from
> small side to large side (To get it away from the leg), kinda like MTow
> style but a solid piece?
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower Consulting
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>>   We have a similar product to those now.  But my new stuff is totally
>> different.
>>
>>  *From:* Erich Kaiser 
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:28 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
>>
>>  Probably something similar to this
>>
>>
>> http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/
>>
>> They also work great for Grain legs.
>>
>>  Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower Consulting
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>>   OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the
>>> best size.  I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the
>>> product out there on beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as
>>> you really don’t want larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough
>>> to want 4.5” is not going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Bill Prince 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
>>>
>>>  If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3
>>> sizes, 2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>>
>>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>>
>>> The question is, what size pipe?
>>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>>
>>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Erich Kaiser]

With Rohn type tower, it seems there is a ton of bending/flexing with any
weight, maybe a  welded smaller diameter for leg side specific up to Rohn
55G with larger pipe side up to around 2 3/8"?  Maybe a welded spacer from
small side to large side (To get it away from the leg), kinda like MTow
style but a solid piece?

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   We have a similar product to those now.  But my new stuff is totally
> different.
>
>  *From:* Erich Kaiser 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:28 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
>
>  Probably something similar to this
>
>
> http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/
>
> They also work great for Grain legs.
>
>  Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower Consulting
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>>   OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the
>> best size.  I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the
>> product out there on beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as
>> you really don’t want larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough
>> to want 4.5” is not going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.
>>
>>  *From:* Bill Prince 
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
>>
>>  If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3
>> sizes, 2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
>> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Figured you weren't heading to 50 Shades...  :-)

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> The Kingsman  -- OH MY HECK!!!  (Utah expression)
>  
> Combine a Bond film with Jason Bourne but a strong dash of Get Smart and a 
> tiny bit of Austin Powers  and you have a very funny movie.
>  
> Right at first you are not sure how serious they are taking themselves, but 
> as time goes on you start to get it.  
>  
> There is a scene toward the end that was a scream!  Highly recommend.

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Chuck McCown]

We have a similar product to those now.  But my new stuff is totally different.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

Probably something similar to this 

http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/


They also work great for Grain legs.

Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the best 
size.  I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the product out 
there on beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as you really don’t 
want larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough to want 4.5” is not 
going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

  If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3 sizes, 
2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.


bp


On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a 
Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough 
to make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I was hoping to replace a Ligowave link I have that's running on 40mhz. I
don't feel like burning up a whole 80mhz of spectrum through, so I think
I'll be buying a PTP-650 especially since I need DFS freq's.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I see that they sell them on the 'Trango store' now too.  Pretty sweet.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm also.  It seems like doing
>> something specific or something in the wrong order makes them not work.
>> Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy,
>>>
>>> I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
>>> guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
>>> when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>>
 I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts
 I did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
 Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
 like it has a lot of potential.

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours
> to get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I
> wasn't following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I
> initially configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in 
> the
> manual. For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. 
> Even
> though I wasn't using the WAN port.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy 
> wrote:
>
>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them
>> to pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway > > wrote:
>>
>>>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I
>>> was just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  
>>> Kurt,
>>> do you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
>>> Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
>>> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. 
>>> I
>>> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
>>> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing 
>>> out
>>> on the 2011's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS
>>> bands but it doesn't :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Erich Kaiser]

Probably something similar to this

http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/

They also work great for Grain legs.

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the
> best size.  I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the
> product out there on beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as
> you really don’t want larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough
> to want 4.5” is not going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.
>
>  *From:* Bill Prince 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
>
>  If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3
> sizes, 2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

[Chuck McCown]

The Kingsman  -- OH MY HECK!!!  (Utah expression) 

Combine a Bond film with Jason Bourne but a strong dash of Get Smart and a tiny 
bit of Austin Powers  and you have a very funny movie. 

Right at first you are not sure how serious they are taking themselves, but as 
time goes on you start to get it.  

There is a scene toward the end that was a scream!  Highly recommend.

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Chuck McCown]

OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the best size.  
I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the product out there on 
beta test.  I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as you really don’t want 
larger dishes on small towers.  A dish large enough to want 4.5” is not going 
to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3 sizes, 
2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.


bp


On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

  And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

  The question is, what size pipe?
  I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
  Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

  The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough 
to make SAF type mounts happy?
  Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Chuck McCown]

Thanks

From: Vince West 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them with 
M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is useful 
for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a PTP-800 or 
SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount. 

For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe 
diameter is perfect.


For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same design 
for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or will something 
more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a pipe? To clarify, 
this CommScope kit uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets 
to hold the pipe.

I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts, 
especially the 36" mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have sent 
up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to the dish, 
but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up separately. Depending 
on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables to get my mounts fixed 
and doing this with a large dish and mount at the same time can be a pain.

Vince West 
Tower Hand

Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
 wrote:

  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' 
licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8" 
all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.

  Just my opinion.

  On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a 
Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough 
to make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Jeremy]

I see that they sell them on the 'Trango store' now too.  Pretty sweet.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm also.  It seems like doing
> something specific or something in the wrong order makes them not work.
> Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
>> guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
>> when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts I
>>> did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
>>> Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
>>> like it has a lot of potential.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Jeremy,

 Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours
 to get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I
 wasn't following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I
 initially configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the
 manual. For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even
 though I wasn't using the WAN port.


 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I
>> was just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt,
>> do you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
>> Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
>> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
>> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
>> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
>> on the 2011's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS
>> bands but it doesn't :(
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Chuck McCown]

I appreciate all the opinions.  Thanks.

From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' 
licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8" 
all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.

Just my opinion.

On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

  And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

  The question is, what size pipe?
  I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
  Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

  The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough 
to make SAF type mounts happy?
  Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that is what I was told at Animal Farm also.  It seems like doing
something specific or something in the wrong order makes them not work.
Next time I guess I'll have to follow directions, LOL.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
> guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
> when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts I
>> did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
>> Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
>> like it has a lot of potential.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy,
>>>
>>> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
>>> get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
>>> following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
>>> configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
>>> For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
>>> I wasn't using the WAN port.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>>
 I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
 pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
 wrote:

>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
> just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
> you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt
> Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>
>
>
> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
> on the 2011's.
>
>
>
> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS
> bands but it doesn't :(
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Jeremy,

I ended up having to default the units and then follow the quick start
guide to the T. There must be some bugs to work out in the firmware cause
when I ordered them the guy told me to follow the quick start to the T.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts I
> did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
> Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
> like it has a lot of potential.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
>> get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
>> following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
>> configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
>> For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
>> I wasn't using the WAN port.
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
>>> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
 just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
 you mind telling me what those radios cost?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results



 Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
 are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
 tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
 and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
 on the 2011's.



 Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
 but it doesn't :(



 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Erich Kaiser]

 A lot of none "first rodeos" lately.. :) I am disappointed that you guys
had issues with these units, I am tempted to try them, but will stick with
Mimosa and Mikrotik for now (Both working great).  Just installed a
Mikrotik Link on an 80Mhz channel to a neighboring building using the SXT
AC and getting 360Mbps/300Mbps, which is awesome for $98 radios. I did
learn when using nv2 (More than one building going to be connected), that
wireless-queue was better than hardware-queue on the SXTs.  It also seems
like most AC equipment needs a ton of CNR to work correctly, probably due
to higher modulation levels.

Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I got frustrated and gave up.  I worked on them for five days and even put
> them on publics and let Jose get into them.  Apparently he got them to pass
> traffic on the bench after they got them back, so I have no idea what went
> wrong.  It's not like this is my first rodeo.  I was bummedI was
> extremely hopeful that these would work for this particular link, but ended
> up going with an AF24.  I will probably give them another shot when I'm not
> on a tight time schedule, and after some firmware revisions.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
>> get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
>> following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
>> configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
>> For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
>> I wasn't using the WAN port.
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
>>> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
 just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
 you mind telling me what those radios cost?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results



 Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
 are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
 tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
 and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
 on the 2011's.



 Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
 but it doesn't :(



 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Jeremy]

I also didn't follow the guide the first time.  On subsequent attempts I
did, but it seemed like something was wrong with them at that point.
Anyway, it's nice to see someone having some success.  The platform looks
like it has a lot of potential.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
> get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
> following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
> configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
> For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
> I wasn't using the WAN port.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
>> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
>>> just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
>>> you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
>>> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
>>> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
>>> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
>>> on the 2011's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
>>> but it doesn't :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish

[Josh Luthman]

ubnt radome 3' DOES NOT FIT ARC DISH

DA5-32Radome (Laird) fits
ARC-DA5834SD1 dish

Ubnt's dish/radome is a good 6 inches bigger if memory serves.

Just looked all of this up from my order last fall.  Drove down to
Streakwave to confirm what would fit.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Double Radius?
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if the RF Armor 3 foot RocketDish shield will work with
>> the ARC Wireless 3 foot dish?  Just looking at pictures, the ARC dish looks
>> virtually identical to the RocketDish.  Just wondering if the shield kit
>> will fit it.  Streakwave is all out of 3 foot RocketDishes, so I'm looking
>> at alternatives, but I've got to have the shield.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Jeremy]

I got frustrated and gave up.  I worked on them for five days and even put
them on publics and let Jose get into them.  Apparently he got them to pass
traffic on the bench after they got them back, so I have no idea what went
wrong.  It's not like this is my first rodeo.  I was bummedI was
extremely hopeful that these would work for this particular link, but ended
up going with an AF24.  I will probably give them another shot when I'm not
on a tight time schedule, and after some firmware revisions.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
> get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
> following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
> configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
> For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
> I wasn't using the WAN port.
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
>> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
>>> just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
>>> you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
>>> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
>>> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
>>> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
>>> on the 2011's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
>>> but it doesn't :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>>
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>
>>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>>
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Jeremy,

Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to
get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't
following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially
configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual.
For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though
I wasn't using the WAN port.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to
> pass traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
>> just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
>> you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
>> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
>> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
>> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
>> on the 2011's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
>> but it doesn't :(
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Erich Kaiser]

ConnectIt is great, we use the PC30 and PC35 all the time. FYI a PC35 will
work with a 2" Heavywall Conduit (Rigid).


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> These are what I've used.  They are heavy duty and inexpensive and work
> with a large range of pipe sizes.  Also, you can replace the bolts with
> allthread to build a mount on two sides for clusters (for example, on a
> single pole on top of a tower).
>
>
> http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-12-in-thick-set-of-2/
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish

[Jeremy]

Double Radius?

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Craig Baird  wrote:

> Does anyone know if the RF Armor 3 foot RocketDish shield will work with
> the ARC Wireless 3 foot dish?  Just looking at pictures, the ARC dish looks
> virtually identical to the RocketDish.  Just wondering if the shield kit
> will fit it.  Streakwave is all out of 3 foot RocketDishes, so I'm looking
> at alternatives, but I've got to have the shield.
>
> Craig
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Jeremy]

I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to pass
traffic.  Did you run into any issues that required support?

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

>  I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was
> just assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do
> you mind telling me what those radios cost?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
>
>
>
> Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units
> are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I
> tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish
> and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out
> on the 2011's.
>
>
>
> Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands
> but it doesn't :(
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> tel. 419-562-6405
>
> fax. 419-617-0110
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jeremy]

These are what I've used.  They are heavy duty and inexpensive and work
with a large range of pipe sizes.  Also, you can replace the bolts with
allthread to build a mount on two sides for clusters (for example, on a
single pole on top of a tower).

http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-12-in-thick-set-of-2/

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Jaime Solorza
>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

[Rory Conaway]

I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was just 
assuming they were considering this a long range product.  Kurt, do you mind 
telling me what those radios cost?

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db 
integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP 
test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish and that was with 
both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out on the 2011's.

Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands but it 
doesn't :(

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[David Milholen]

I did it when it was first available and havent looked back.
Will not be much longer I will be rid of FSK all together. 450 takin up 
all the slack.


On 2/13/2015 7:08 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
We just upgraded a bunch of FSK to 13.1.3, and it's smoothed out some 
re-reg issues we were having on 11.2.


I also really like the tabular status pages (that are sortable on 
different columns).� Real time saver!


bp


On 2/13/2015 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?� Any benefits?

�

We are currently running 11.2

�

What are you all running?

�

Thanks

�

Adam





--

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Bill Prince]

Would REALLY like to see the femtocell fix on FSK

Just sayin'

bp


On 2/13/2015 1:00 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are 
planning on releasing one more version.


On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband 
mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com>> wrote:


I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100.
Why not get up to the latest

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband
mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com>>
wrote:

Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?

We are currently running 11.2

What are you all running?

Thanks

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Bill Prince]

We just upgraded a bunch of FSK to 13.1.3, and it's smoothed out some 
re-reg issues we were having on 11.2.


I also really like the tabular status pages (that are sortable on 
different columns).  Real time saver!


bp


On 2/13/2015 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits?

We are currently running 11.2

What are you all running?

Thanks

Adam

[AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish

[Craig Baird]

Does anyone know if the RF Armor 3 foot RocketDish shield will work  
with the ARC Wireless 3 foot dish?  Just looking at pictures, the ARC  
dish looks virtually identical to the RocketDish.  Just wondering if  
the shield kit will fit it.  Streakwave is all out of 3 foot  
RocketDishes, so I'm looking at alternatives, but I've got to have the  
shield.


Craig

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Bill Prince]

If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3 
sizes, 2.875" OD, 3.5" OD, and 4.5" OD.  Depends on the dish/sector.


bp


On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on 
a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large 
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?

Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jaime Solorza]

Thata what I am working on

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 4:47 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Stock mtow instead :)
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 13, 2015 6:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am working on getting them disturbed by epcom locally.
>>
>> This box is last we have in stock..
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 13, 2015 4:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Used to use those.  Much happier with Mtow!
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 These

 Jaime Solorza
 On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <
 geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or
> 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with
> 5/8" all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish
> on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] epmp question

[Jay Weekley]

We have a winner. 192.168.0.3. Luckily, I saw the message pop up on the 
second try after defaulting the radio.  And be sure you have Java 
installed.  Apparently, my recently reloaded field unit didn't have it.


Dan Sullivan wrote:


Hi,

This comes from the ePMP User Guide.

Dan

ePMP Software Manager

**

If *Device IP address Mode* is set to *DHCP* and the device is unable 
to retrieve IP address information via DHCP, the device management IP 
is set to fallback IP 192.168.0.1 (AP mode), 192.168.0.2 (SM mode), 
192.168.0.3 (Spectrum Analyzer mode) or the previously-configured 
static Device IP Address. Units may always be accessed via the 
Ethernet port.


With Release 2.1, the fallback IP address has changed from 10.1.1.254 
to 169.254.1.1.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 2:53 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] epmp question

You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, "Jerry Head" > wrote:


169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�

so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but
then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio -
what is the "fallback ip" if it doesn't get a DHCP address?��
Is there one?�� Oops!

�

�

169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Josh Luthman]

Stock mtow instead :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 13, 2015 6:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I am working on getting them disturbed by epcom locally.
>
> This box is last we have in stock..
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 13, 2015 4:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Used to use those.  Much happier with Mtow!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <
>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or
 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with
 5/8" all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.

 Just my opinion.

 On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
 a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.

 And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

 The question is, what size pipe?
 I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
 Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.

 The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
 enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
 Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jaime Solorza]

I am working on getting them disturbed by epcom locally.

This box is last we have in stock..

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 4:33 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Used to use those.  Much happier with Mtow!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> These
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <
>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or
>>> 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with
>>> 5/8" all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>>
>>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>>
>>> The question is, what size pipe?
>>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>>
>>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Josh Luthman]

Used to use those.  Much happier with Mtow!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> These
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <
> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4'
>> licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8"
>> all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>>
>> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
>> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Steve Utick]

Working great for us too.   Worth it just to get the tabs in the session
status page, ability to sort, etc.

The only drawback is the lack of a "NONE" frequency on 2.4 FSK A/P's, but
that's about all we've found issues with so far.


On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> 13.1.3 is very stable and reliable.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 13, 2015, SmarterBroadband 
> wrote:
>
>> Is it stable?  Working well for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure is.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>
>>
>>
>> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why
>> not get up to the latest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>>
>>
>>
>> We are currently running 11.2
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all running?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Vince West]

I guess I should have looked at another M-TOW. It isn't listed on the
M-TOW-P-36 spec sheet. Thanks!!

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Pipe is currently 1.685 OD
> http://wbmfg.com/specs/M-TOW-P.PDF
>
> Normal MTOWP is 24" tall, but there's a 36 and 48 inch option.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Vince West  wrote:
>
>> We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them
>> with M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is
>> useful for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a
>> PTP-800 or SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount.
>>
>> For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe
>> diameter is perfect.
>>
>> For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same
>> design for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or
>> will something more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a
>> pipe? To clarify, this CommScope kit
>> 
>> uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets to hold the
>> pipe.
>>
>> I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts,
>> especially the 36" mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have
>> sent up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to
>> the dish, but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up
>> separately. Depending on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables
>> to get my mounts fixed and doing this with a large dish and mount at the
>> same time can be a pain.
>>
>> Vince West
>> Tower Hand
>> Technical Support
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 148 Citizens Blvd
>> Simpsonville, KY 40067
>> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or
>>> 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with
>>> 5/8" all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>>
>>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>>
>>> The question is, what size pipe?
>>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>>
>>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Josh Luthman]

Pipe is currently 1.685 OD
http://wbmfg.com/specs/M-TOW-P.PDF

Normal MTOWP is 24" tall, but there's a 36 and 48 inch option.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Vince West  wrote:

> We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them
> with M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is
> useful for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a
> PTP-800 or SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount.
>
> For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe
> diameter is perfect.
>
> For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same
> design for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or
> will something more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a
> pipe? To clarify, this CommScope kit
> 
> uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets to hold the
> pipe.
>
> I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts,
> especially the 36" mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have
> sent up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to
> the dish, but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up
> separately. Depending on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables
> to get my mounts fixed and doing this with a large dish and mount at the
> same time can be a pain.
>
> Vince West
> Tower Hand
> Technical Support
> Shelby Broadband
> 148 Citizens Blvd
> Simpsonville, KY 40067
> Phone: 1-888-364-4232
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4'
>> licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8"
>> all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>>
>> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
>> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Vince West]

We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them
with M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is
useful for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a
PTP-800 or SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount.

For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe
diameter is perfect.

For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same
design for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or
will something more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a
pipe? To clarify, this CommScope kit

uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets to hold the
pipe.

I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts,
especially the 36" mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have
sent up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to
the dish, but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up
separately. Depending on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables
to get my mounts fixed and doing this with a large dish and mount at the
same time can be a pain.

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4'
> licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8"
> all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
>  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Seth Mattinen]

On 2/13/15 11:46, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.



I like 2-3/8" OD pipe for small MW antennas.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Setting Canopy 430 scan freqs via CNUT

[Sean Heskett]

Upgrade everything to 13.2.1 and 5480 is checked during the upgrade process



On Friday, February 13, 2015, Craig Baird  wrote:

> I have a 430 AP that I want to put on channel 5480.  It was running an
> 11.x firmware.  If you recall, on firmware prior to 12.1.2, the first
> available frequency was 5485.  So, I upgraded this AP in order to be able
> to set it to 5480.  Problem is that after the upgrade, SMs with firmware
> prior to 12.1.2 wouldn't connect because they couldn't do 5480.  So, I set
> the AP back to 5485 and upgraded all the SMs to 12.1.2.  I then set the AP
> back to 5480, only to find that the SMs still wouldn't register because the
> frequency scan setting in the SMs didn't have the additional channels
> checked.
>
> So that's my question.  Is there any way to do this via CNUT on all the
> SMs so I don't have to manually log into every one of them and check the
> 5480 box?
>
> Craig
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[That One Guy]

I dig it. we went to it primarily because of the spectrum without
changing.. Its like free government cheese

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:

> Yep.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:19 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it stable?  Working well for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure is.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>
>>
>>
>> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why
>> not get up to the latest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>>
>>
>>
>> We are currently running 11.2
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all running?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[That One Guy]

I dont understand why employers arent allowed to fully define the work
environment, in a fair world, if you own a business and take the financial
risk you would be able to make all your own decisions.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

>   3 types of drug testing:
>   1)  screen all candidates
>  2)  make offer with drug test as condition of employment
>  3)  random testing of employees
>
>  There is some controversy about 1 and 3.  Pretty hard to argue with 2.
>
>  Here’s an offer of employment conditional on passing a drug test at XYZ
> independent testing lab before your first day.  Go pee in the cup and they
> will contact us saying you pass or fail.
>
>  If employees drive on the job or operate machinery, I can understand
> even random testing.  I could also understand if they will be working
> unsupervised in customer houses.
>
>  One other consideration, and I’m talking more about hard drugs here than
> alcohol or marijuana.  Most cases of employee theft are driven by drug
> addiction.  You will find things like employees selling your inventory and
> tools to get money.  I remember Doug Clark posting about a bad experience
> when he found out he had hired a junkie as an installer.
>
>   *From:* Jason McKemie 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 3:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>
>  Just way too big of an invasion of privacy.  I do understand why
> businesses do it, just not a fan personally.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>>  Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with
>> employees.  If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed
>> someone, the liability would be huge.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>>
>>
>>
>> Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another
>> argument...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their
>> drug test panels.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?
>>
>>
>>  On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Smoke Free.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
>>
>> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>>
>>
>>
>> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
>> property, in company vehicles etc.
>>
>> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
>> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
>> you come into the office).
>>
>>
>>
>> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
>>
>> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and
>> get to work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>>
>>
>>
>> Employee Question:
>>
>>
>>
>> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
>> smart phone usage?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> * Internet Communications Inc.*
>> * 739 Commerce Dr.*
>> * Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: www.surfici.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>> *prohibited.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

[AFMUG] Setting Canopy 430 scan freqs via CNUT

[Craig Baird]

I have a 430 AP that I want to put on channel 5480.  It was running an  
11.x firmware.  If you recall, on firmware prior to 12.1.2, the first  
available frequency was 5485.  So, I upgraded this AP in order to be  
able to set it to 5480.  Problem is that after the upgrade, SMs with  
firmware prior to 12.1.2 wouldn't connect because they couldn't do  
5480.  So, I set the AP back to 5485 and upgraded all the SMs to  
12.1.2.  I then set the AP back to 5480, only to find that the SMs  
still wouldn't register because the frequency scan setting in the SMs  
didn't have the additional channels checked.


So that's my question.  Is there any way to do this via CNUT on all  
the SMs so I don't have to manually log into every one of them and  
check the 5480 box?


Craig

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Ryan Ray]

Yep.


On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:19 PM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> Is it stable?  Working well for you?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> Sure is.
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not
> get up to the latest
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>
>
>
> We are currently running 11.2
>
>
>
> What are you all running?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Ken Hohhof]

3 types of drug testing:
1)  screen all candidates
2)  make offer with drug test as condition of employment
3)  random testing of employees
There is some controversy about 1 and 3.  Pretty hard to argue with 2.
Here’s an offer of employment conditional on passing a drug test at XYZ 
independent testing lab before your first day.  Go pee in the cup and they will 
contact us saying you pass or fail.
If employees drive on the job or operate machinery, I can understand even 
random testing.  I could also understand if they will be working unsupervised 
in customer houses.
One other consideration, and I’m talking more about hard drugs here than 
alcohol or marijuana.  Most cases of employee theft are driven by drug 
addiction.  You will find things like employees selling your inventory and 
tools to get money.  I remember Doug Clark posting about a bad experience when 
he found out he had hired a junkie as an installer.
From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Just way too big of an invasion of privacy.  I do understand why businesses do 
it, just not a fan personally.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

  Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees.  
If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability 
would be huge.



  Rory



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use



  Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...



  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

  Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug 
test panels.



  On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

  Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? 




  On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Smoke Free. 

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:

  If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 

  (Yes, you can fire smokers).



  Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company 
property, in company vehicles etc.

  (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  
You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).



  They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  

  Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and 
get to work.







  From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM

  To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use



  Employee Question:



  How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant 
smart phone usage?



  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net 





  What can ICI do for you? 


  Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

  CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
  addressee shown. It contains information that is 
  confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
  dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
  unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
  prohibited. 

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Sean Heskett]

13.1.3 is very stable and reliable.



On Friday, February 13, 2015, SmarterBroadband 
wrote:

> Is it stable?  Working well for you?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> Sure is.
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not
> get up to the latest
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com
> > wrote:
>
> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>
>
>
> We are currently running 11.2
>
>
>
> What are you all running?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] epmp question

[Dan Sullivan]

Hi,

This comes from the ePMP User Guide.

Dan
ePMP Software Manager

**

If Device IP address Mode is set to DHCP and the device is unable to retrieve 
IP address information via DHCP, the device management IP is set to fallback IP 
192.168.0.1 (AP mode), 192.168.0.2 (SM mode), 192.168.0.3 (Spectrum Analyzer 
mode) or the previously-configured static Device IP Address. Units may always 
be accessed via the Ethernet port.

With Release 2.1, the fallback IP address has changed from 10.1.1.254 to 
169.254.1.1.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] epmp question


You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, "Jerry Head" 
mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>> wrote:
169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
�
so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go 
into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the "fallback ip" 
if it doesn't get a DHCP address?�� Is there one?�� Oops!
�
�
169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)]

2-3/8" OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' 
licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 
5/8" all-thread and probably 4-1/2" rigid pipe.


Just my opinion.

On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on 
a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large 
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?

Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24

[chuck]

I think we are using the same magnetics...

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to 
AirFiber 24

The transformers we use are rated for the 802.3at spec, which is 25.50W per 
pair at the powered device end, using 48V at the source end and factoring in 
cable drop along a 100M cable.  Note that if you do the division you'll come up 
with a lower current rating than the magnetics are rated for just because of 
the cable drop.   The manufacturer I use actually has built quite a bit of 
additional capability in their product - the actual rating is higher - closer 
to, but not quite as high as what chuck is stating for the ones he uses (which 
is odd since I though we were using the same magnetics). 

It's amazing, though, how many of these cheap PoE injectors use a 
non-power-rated transformer which is also not rated for extended power range.


-forrest

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77

  1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity.  It 
will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat.  I think it 
unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.  

  From: TJ Trout 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to 
AirFiber 24

  What's the rating chuck?

  On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I put  in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed the 
GigE-APC-POE.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to 
AirFiber 24

I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work, 
just need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a new 
Cat5.  Current Cat5 is Apex9. 

Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the pairs 
has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split equally, thus 
causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading the pulse 
characteristics of the transformer.  Which could happen if the UBNT injector 
has transformers with higher saturation specs than the Packetflux injector.

  From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
  Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to 
AirFiber 24

  Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on the 
regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24, you're 
likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.

  The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a 
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.

  That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be 
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the PacketFlux 
single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the UBNT brick? I have 
no idea.

  On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:

Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port 
Injector and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, 
switch to stock UBNT POE and it works fine.  This is an all DC site, with 
separate DC to DC converters and everything is fused. 

See POE directions direct from Packetflux




Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince  
wrote:

  It should not work with a regular POE injector.  50 watts is too much 
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins.  And that, in turn, 
requires transformers to isolate the data lines.

  So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE.  Well, 
maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT. 
 Then the 4/5 & 7/8 pins will fry.


bp


On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:

Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the 
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector.  I am seeing an issue with TX data, 
RX works fine, getting full bandwidth.  TX I get about 2Mbps.  Hooked up to 
Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[SmarterBroadband]

Is it stable?  Working well for you?

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

 

Sure is.

 

Inline image 1

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband  
wrote:

I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

 

13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get 
up to the latest

 

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband  
wrote:

Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?

 

We are currently running 11.2

 

What are you all running?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

The transformers we use are rated for the 802.3at spec, which is 25.50W per
pair at the powered device end, using 48V at the source end and factoring
in cable drop along a 100M cable.  Note that if you do the division you'll
come up with a lower current rating than the magnetics are rated for just
because of the cable drop.   The manufacturer I use actually has built
quite a bit of additional capability in their product - the actual rating
is higher - closer to, but not quite as high as what chuck is stating for
the ones he uses (which is odd since I though we were using the same
magnetics).

It's amazing, though, how many of these cheap PoE injectors use a
non-power-rated transformer which is also not rated for extended power
range.

-forrest

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77
>
> 1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity.
> It will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat.  I think
> it unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.
>
>  *From:* TJ Trout 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
> to AirFiber 24
>
>
> What's the rating chuck?
> On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   I put  in the highest current transformers I could find when I
>> designed the GigE-APC-POE.
>>
>>  *From:* Erich Kaiser 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
>> to AirFiber 24
>>
>>  I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work,
>> just need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a
>> new Cat5.  Current Cat5 is Apex9.
>>
>>  Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower Consulting
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>>   Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the
>>> pairs has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split
>>> equally, thus causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading
>>> the pulse characteristics of the transformer.  Which could happen if the
>>> UBNT injector has transformers with higher saturation specs than the
>>> Packetflux injector.
>>>
>>>  *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
>>> to AirFiber 24
>>>
>>>  Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on
>>> the regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24,
>>> you're likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
>>>
>>> The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
>>> SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
>>>
>>> That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
>>> unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the
>>> PacketFlux single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the
>>> UBNT brick? I have no idea.
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
>>> and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch
>>> to stock UBNT POE and it works fine.  This is an all DC site, with separate
>>> DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
>>>
>>> See POE directions direct from Packetflux
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>>  Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower Consulting
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  It should not work with a regular POE injector.  50 watts is too much
 current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins.  And that, in
 turn, requires transformers to isolate the data lines.

 So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE.  Well,
 maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do
 100baseT.  Then the 4/5 & 7/8 pins will fry.

 bp
 


 On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:

  Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
 Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector.  I am seeing an issue with TX
 data, RX works fine, getting full bandwidth.  TX I get about 2Mbps.  Hooked
 up to Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?


  Erich Kaiser
 North Central Tower Consulting
 er...@northcentraltower.com
 Office: 630-621-4804
 Cell: 630-777-9291



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[chuck]

I was astounded when I learned that we found some clean pee kits with a warming 
device stashed on some of our service vehicles.  Had no idea the product 
existed.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees.  If 
these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability 
would be huge.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

 

Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug 
test panels.

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? 




On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Smoke Free. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:

If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 

(Yes, you can fire smokers).

 

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, 
in company vehicles etc.

(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  
You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

 

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  

Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and 
get to work.

 

 

 

From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM

To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

 

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24

[George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)]

Awesome!

On 2/13/2015 3:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
We have revised our recommendation in this regard:  The relay on the 
Gigabit Injectors is actually rated for 60W DC, so it's fine to power 
an AF24 via the standard Gigabit injector.

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[chuck]

It is legal to fire someone because they do smoke, so I would think you can 
discriminate against them on the front end as well.  

From: Keefe John 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? 




On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Smoke Free. 

  Jaime Solorza

  On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:

If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 
(Yes, you can fire smokers).

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, 
in company vehicles etc.
(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  
You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  
Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and 
get to work.



From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Employee Question:



How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?



Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 





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Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[chuck]

I have always told my (very Mormon) kids, if you are gonna smoke, don’t smoke 
tobacco...

Followed up by: “And if you are going to experiment with drugs or alcohol, OK 
but you have to share with me”

The youngest is 19 and not a single one called my bluff. 

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:42 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Smoke Free. 

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:

  If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 
  (Yes, you can fire smokers).

  Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, 
in company vehicles etc.
  (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  You 
drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

  They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  
  Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get 
to work.



  From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
  To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

  Employee Question:



  How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?



  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net 





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Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Jason McKemie]

Just way too big of an invasion of privacy.  I do understand why businesses
do it, just not a fan personally.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

>  Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with
> employees.  If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed
> someone, the liability would be huge.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>
>
>
> Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another
> argument...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
> Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their
> drug test panels.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
>
> Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?
>
>
>  On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Smoke Free.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:
>
>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
>
> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>
>
>
> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
> property, in company vehicles etc.
>
> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
> you come into the office).
>
>
>
> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
>
> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and
> get to work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
>
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>
>
>
> Employee Question:
>
>
>
> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
> smart phone usage?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> * Internet Communications Inc.*
> * 739 Commerce Dr.*
> * Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: www.surfici.net *
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Jerry Richardson]

My insurance carrier gives me a break for requiring drug testing as a condition 
of employment. I’m not paying a premium for my employees poor choices.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

 

Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug 
test panels.

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com> > wrote:

Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? 




On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Smoke Free. 

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 

(Yes, you can fire smokers).

 

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in 
company vehicles etc.

(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  You 
drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

 

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  

Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get 
to work.

 

 

 

From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM

To: memb...@wispa.org   ; af@afmug.com 
  

Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

 

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net   

 



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Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Mathew Howard]

I don't think so... at least I haven't heard anything about an EOL.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Have they stopped manufacturing FSK gear?  I know there's a ridiculous
> used market out there, but I haven't seen any official EOL.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> 13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning
>> on releasing one more version.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why
>>> not get up to the latest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are currently running 11.2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are you all running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Josh Luthman]

Have they stopped manufacturing FSK gear?  I know there's a ridiculous used
market out there, but I haven't seen any official EOL.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> 13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning
> on releasing one more version.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>>
>>
>>
>> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why
>> not get up to the latest
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
>> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>>
>>
>>
>> We are currently running 11.2
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all running?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

We have revised our recommendation in this regard:  The relay on the
Gigabit Injectors is actually rated for 60W DC, so it's fine to power an
AF24 via the standard Gigabit injector.

I find it odd that this is an asymmetrical issue.   Gigabit uses all four
pairs in both directions simultaneously, so a defect on a pair should
affect both directions virtually identically.   This is a lot like a radio
link getting 20db less signal in one direction or the other.

Just curious, has a different *length* of patch cable between the switch
and the injector been tried (could be a reflection issue)?

-forrest

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:09 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on
> the regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24,
> you're likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
>
> The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
> SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
>
> That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
> unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the
> PacketFlux single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the
> UBNT brick? I have no idea.
>
> On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
>
> Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
> and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch
> to stock UBNT POE and it works fine.  This is an all DC site, with separate
> DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
>
>  See POE directions direct from Packetflux
>
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>
>  Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower Consulting
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>>  It should not work with a regular POE injector.  50 watts is too much
>> current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins.  And that, in
>> turn, requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
>>
>> So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE.  Well, maybe
>> it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
>> Then the 4/5 & 7/8 pins will fry.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
>>
>>  Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
>> Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector.  I am seeing an issue with TX
>> data, RX works fine, getting full bandwidth.  TX I get about 2Mbps.  Hooked
>> up to Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
>>
>>
>>  Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower Consulting
>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Mathew Howard]

13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning
on releasing one more version.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not
> get up to the latest
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>
>
>
> We are currently running 11.2
>
>
>
> What are you all running?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Ryan Ray]

Sure is.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
>
>
>
> 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not
> get up to the latest
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
> li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>
>
>
> We are currently running 11.2
>
>
>
> What are you all running?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Rory Conaway]

Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees.  If 
these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability 
would be huge.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy 
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug 
test panels.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John 
mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:
Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?


On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Smoke Free.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
(Yes, you can fire smokers).

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in 
company vehicles etc.
(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  You 
drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get 
to work.



From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; 
af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Employee Question:

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
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Re: [AFMUG] epmp question

[Josh Luthman]

You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, "Jerry Head"  wrote:

>  169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
>
> On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> �
> so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we
> go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the
> "fallback ip" if it doesn't get a DHCP address?�� Is there one?��
> Oops!
> �
> �
>
> 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Jason McKemie]

Preemptive drug testing should not be legal.  But that's another argument...

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their
> drug test panels.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
>
>>  Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Smoke Free.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
>>> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>>>
>>> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
>>> property, in company vehicles etc.
>>> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
>>> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
>>> you come into the office).
>>>
>>> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
>>> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away
>>> and get to work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
>>> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>>>
>>>
>>> Employee Question:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
>>> smart phone usage?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
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>

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

There isn't anything different between any recent injector daisy chain
wise.  Any straight-through cable on the syncpipe daisy-chain ports, cat5
or flat satin will work - although for longer distances you want CAT5.

The sitemonitor ports can be dasychained with either a straight or reversed
(1-6 to 6-1) 6p6c connector.

I'm assuming you're not asking about power.

-forrest

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:28 AM,  wrote:

> Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of
> the 10/100 SyncInjectors?
>
>
>
> We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the
> air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig
> unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to
> be able to daisy chain to it.
>
>
>
> Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to
> daisy chaining these units?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] epmp question

[Jerry Head]

169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then 
we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the 
"fallback ip" if it doesn't get a DHCP address?   Is there one?   Oops!

169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...

[AFMUG] epmp question

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go 
into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the "fallback ip" 
if it doesn't get a DHCP address?   Is there one?   Oops!

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[SmarterBroadband]

I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

 

13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get 
up to the latest

 

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband  
wrote:

Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?

 

We are currently running 11.2

 

What are you all running?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it is legal.  Some companies have added nicotine testing to their
drug test panels.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

>  Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?
>
>
>
> On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Smoke Free.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:
>
>>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
>> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>>
>> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
>> property, in company vehicles etc.
>> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
>> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
>> you come into the office).
>>
>> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
>> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and
>> get to work.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
>> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>>
>>
>> Employee Question:
>>
>>
>>
>> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
>> smart phone usage?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
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>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Keefe John]

Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke?



On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


Smoke Free.

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:


If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
(Yes, you can fire smokers).
Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
property, in company vehicles etc.
(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and
chewer.  You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell
bad yourself when you come into the office).
They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone
away and get to work.
*From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
*To:* memb...@wispa.org  ; af@afmug.com

*Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Employee Question:

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and
constant smart phone usage?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

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Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Jaime Solorza]

Smoke Free.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM,  wrote:

>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>
> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
> property, in company vehicles etc.
> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
> you come into the office).
>
> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and
> get to work.
>
>
>
>  *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>
>
> Employee Question:
>
>
>
> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
> smart phone usage?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
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Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jeremy]

I always use 3" on backhauls, smaller on AP sectors.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I agree, 3" is a bit too big. If I remember correctly, when we put up our
> SAF 3' dishes, we were told to use 2.375" - that seems like a good size to
> me.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> 3" is too big IMO
>>
>> I think SAF mounts call for 2.25" minimum?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>>
>>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>>
>>> The question is, what size pipe?
>>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>>
>>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[Ryan Ray]

13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not
get up to the latest


On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband <
li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote:

> Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?
>
>
>
> We are currently running 11.2
>
>
>
> What are you all running?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jaime Solorza]

Mounts are Andrew or Decibel.   Hot dipped galvanized

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 1:10 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Rocket Dish is Ubnt.  Not Andrew or Decibel...?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket
>> Dish install .   Will share pic when done.  Andrew or Decibel.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>>
>>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>>
>>> The question is, what size pipe?
>>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>>
>>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Mathew Howard]

I agree, 3" is a bit too big. If I remember correctly, when we put up our
SAF 3' dishes, we were told to use 2.375" - that seems like a good size to
me.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 3" is too big IMO
>
> I think SAF mounts call for 2.25" minimum?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM,  wrote:
>
>>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level

[SmarterBroadband]

Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100?  Any benefits?

 

We are currently running 11.2

 

What are you all running?

 

Thanks

 

Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Josh Luthman]

Rocket Dish is Ubnt.  Not Andrew or Decibel...?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket Dish
> install .   Will share pic when done.  Andrew or Decibel.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM,  wrote:
>
>>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
>> a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>>
>> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>>
>> The question is, what size pipe?
>> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
>> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>>
>> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
>> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
>> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Chuck Hogg]

They get told to watch it first time, written up 2nd/3rd times, handed to
me for the final which I either decide to keep or fire.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
 wrote:

> Employee Question:
>
>
>
> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
> smart phone usage?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
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> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Jaime Solorza]

I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket Dish
install .   Will share pic when done.  Andrew or Decibel.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM,  wrote:

>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Ken Hohhof]

If you are talking about the mast, aluminum doesn’t work well, too bendy.  If 
you want lower weight, use IMC conduit.  The forming process work hardens the 
steel and it is actually stiffer than rigid pipe.  It does have a welded seam 
which you might worry would rust, I haven’t experienced that though.


From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

Aluminum will really drive the cost up.  

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

3.5 would be good.  Maybe a thinner wall?  Or even better aluminum.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

 

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

 

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

 

The question is, what size pipe?

I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.

Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

 

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough to 
make SAF type mounts happy?

Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Ken Hohhof]

Many 3 ft and larger dishes, especially high performance and licensed, specify 
a 3.5” diameter pipe.  In fact some specify 4.5”, but that’s a bit excessive 
IMHO, at least for a 3 ft dish.

The next size down is probably 2.375 which I use a lot of.

The other thing once you start needing a 3.5 or 4.5 inch pipe, is support 
struts or stiff arms.  I find it annoying that Radiowaves doesn’t have a tab to 
attach a stiff arm on their 3 ft licensed dishes.  And no lift hook either.  
Grrr.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

3" is too big IMO 

I think SAF mounts call for 2.25" minimum?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM,  wrote:

  I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

  And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

  The question is, what size pipe?
  I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
  Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

  The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough 
to make SAF type mounts happy?
  Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[That One Guy]

Im a heavy smoker, I like that employers are cracking down on us, we cost
companies a ton of money, whether it be smoke breaks, stinking up the
joint, healthcare, or lost productivity because we are jonesing for a
cigarrete and not focusing on our jobs. Fire us while you can, because
eventually we will be protected like drunks.



On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:38 PM,  wrote:

>   If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere.
> (Yes, you can fire smokers).
>
> Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company
> property, in company vehicles etc.
> (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.
> You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when
> you come into the office).
>
> They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.
> Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and
> get to work.
>
>
>
>  *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
>
>
> Employee Question:
>
>
>
> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
> smart phone usage?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
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> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
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>



-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[chuck]

Aluminum will really drive the cost up.  

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

3.5 would be good.  Maybe a thinner wall?  Or even better aluminum.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

 

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

 

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

 

The question is, what size pipe?

I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.

Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

 

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough to 
make SAF type mounts happy?

Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Ken Hohhof]

I would surely agree with the no smoking in company vehicles.  Sorry guys, it 
stinks up the vehicle.  To the point that even without smoking in the vehicle, 
it gets on your clothes, you sit in the vehicle, then someone else sits in the 
vehicle, they go to a customer’s house, and the customer smells it and doesn’t 
want you in their house.  It’s in the same category with customers who don’t 
realize their whole house stinks of cat urine, and after doing an install you 
have to shower and change clothes before you go to the next appointment, which 
may not be practical.

Like the roundtable discussion I heard on TV about measles vaccinations.  One 
person said the government shouldn’t force you to get vaccinated, but private 
enterprise should – Starbucks should have a sign no shirt, not shoes, no 
measles vaccination, no service.  Another person said if you want to live in 
the 1940’s you should have to go all in with the 1940’s lifestyle, not use any 
technology invented after.  Sorry, now I’m probably starting a debate about 
vaccinations.  Geez, I hope not.  I was born in 1950 and believe me, we don’t 
want to go back to people dying of measles.  Our soldiers deployed overseas get 
all sorts of nasty vaccinations, the MMR shot is nothing.


From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 
(Yes, you can fire smokers).

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in 
company vehicles etc.
(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  You 
drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  
Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get 
to work.



From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[Josh Luthman]

3" is too big IMO

I think SAF mounts call for 2.25" minimum?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM,  wrote:

>   I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
> Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
>
> And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
>
> The question is, what size pipe?
> I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
> Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
>
> The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large
> enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
> Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[SmarterBroadband]

3.5 would be good.  Maybe a thinner wall?  Or even better aluminum.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

 

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

 

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

 

The question is, what size pipe?

I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.

Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

 

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough to 
make SAF type mounts happy?

Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

[AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

[chuck]

I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn 
type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.  

And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P

The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.  

The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft.  Is that large enough to 
make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.  

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[chuck]

If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. 
(Yes, you can fire smokers).

Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in 
company vehicles etc.
(Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer.  You 
drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you 
come into the office).

They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill.  
Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get 
to work.



From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart 
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



What can ICI do for you? 


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Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Ty Featherling]

Firing squad.

Seriously though, we talk to them like human beings and point out the
problem with their activity. If they don't correct they are written up with
clear indication of the consequences if they proceed. Then you keep your
word.

-Ty

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
 wrote:

> Employee Question:
>
>
>
> How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant
> smart phone usage?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing

[Nate Burke]

M-TOW-T (tower)

On 2/13/2015 12:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Chuck's starting a tower company?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




*From: *"Chuck McCown" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, February 13, 2015 12:17:47 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing

I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers 
without torquing any of the legs.  Even those crappy sheet metal self 
supporting towers.

*From:* Josh Luthman 
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
I wonder if there is demand.
The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger 
pipe.  The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was 
before MTOW products).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount
products. There is no reason this does not exist.
*From:* Josh Luthman 
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6" pipe?  Or is
the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci mailto:tr...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

[AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Employee Question:

 

How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart
phone usage?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



What can ICI do for you? 


Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
  
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum

[Matt Mangriotis]

Yes to both (PMP and PTP variants will be released).  Look for this mid-year…

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum

ptp450 or pmp450?

If it's certified for 4.9 your only application is public safety.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Brian Sullivan 
mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>> wrote:
Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will 
accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU.
Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety?
And when?  I have a need for this now.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum

[Josh Luthman]

ptp450 or pmp450?

If it's certified for 4.9 your only application is public safety.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will
> accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU.
> Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety?
> And when?  I have a need for this now.
>

Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing

[Mike Hammett]

Chuck's starting a tower company? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Chuck McCown"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:17:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing 




I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers without 
torquing any of the legs. Even those crappy sheet metal self supporting towers. 




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing 


I wonder if there is demand. 

The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF 
link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There 
is no reason this does not exist. 




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing 




Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6" pipe? Or is the only open 
to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci < tr...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 

[AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum

[Brian Sullivan]

Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will 
accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU.

Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety?
And when?  I have a need for this now.