Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which headphones?
check out 'Alessandro'. They are pretty much repackaged Grado's, but comparing characteristics look like you can get SR-125 equivalent for the price of SR-60. -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63677 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Break-in period for Transporter?
Well, exactly my feeling when I got an external DAC to 'improve' the sound of SB3. All those internet ravings and no difference that I could hear. Gave it some time, hoping that somewhere somehow sometimes I'll hear the difference. Never happened, so I sold the DAC, and the hit I took on price is considered as a price of the experience and the education. And that brak-in common thing. It's not a wisdom, it's an audiophilia legend. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63394 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Popping sound from SB3 spdif out
most likely that your DAC can not oversample (properly) the sample rate SB is passing. Happened to me with different DAC. Would oversample 44.1, but not 48 (in other words, it would work fine with SB3, but not with DVD player playing DVDs and will oversample fine with DVD player playing CDs). Was there some kind of clock upgrade done on the DAC? K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58967 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stone Harley - new comedy team?
tomjtx;380120 Wrote: Amen. If more audiophiles would use your common sense they would save a lot of money. Or, as somebody have eloquently put it into their signature: Disclaimer: I don't want to get into the DBT thing, I'm obviously biased as I forked out money for a DAC, therefore my ego has a vested interest in making sure my ears report positively to my brain K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter samplerate
bhaagensen;379273 Wrote: Are you saying that sound is not continous? Please explain. This is something that's been bugging me for a while. Quite often, example of western movie wagon wheels going backwards are used to explain aliasing. Now, I have never heard a good explanation as to why we can still see that phenomenon alive (on Calgary stampede for example) if our visual senses are absolutely analog. To me, it looks like there's some ADA conversion going on between our eyes and our brain without very good filtering applied :) K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57631 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audible vs inaudible
darrenyeats;373511 Wrote: Let me pose a question. But first a story! Once there were two coffee machine firms called Caffefile and Cafmart... I fail to see an analogy here. This 'case' deals with the preferences in tastes, while HiFi deals with the resemblance to the original. In coffee case, there's no right or wrong, just a preference. Also, there's no clear logic why would metal produced in more expensive way render better tasting coffee. With audio, if less jitter gives me 'tighter' bass the the original or 'more air' than the original, then clearly (to me :) ) it is still wrong, even though it is produced with more sophisticated piece of technology. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56712 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] jitter
Themis;373210 Wrote: ... So, what I say, is that when we do an ABX test, we actually measure the probability that some (any) auditors can find this difference. If they don't find any, the test means nothing. I like this sentence as I think it summarises most of what has been presented in this thread. I also think it's a perfect example where from correct premisses, the wrong conclusion has been drawn. I'd simply change it to: If they don't find any, the difference is not worth the money (for them). K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56425 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Good sound from Squueezebox
davidjames;369260 Wrote: ... Are you saying when I performed the same test using a joke I wrote in MS Word it wasn't funnier with the better switch? Damn. not only that Sir, but if you zip/unzip said word document in the process, you joke will loose all its fun, it will become a lament actually :) K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55950 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting Articles in The Absolute Sound
marc0716;368269 Wrote: ... don't think im attacking you please. i'm just sharing my opinion. No, you are not attacking people around here. You are attacking common sense, logic, engineering knowledge and some more things, rapidly degrading you own credibility in the process. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Nutcracker
You might want to check out the recording made by Mstislav Rostropovich with Berlin Philharmonic Orchestrain 1979. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Virtual Dynamics Power 3 2000% Profit Margin
Deaf Cat;336674 Wrote: ... If as you say its placebo, why has someone not invented the holiday feeling pill for normal work days :-) Oh, but they did. It's called 'having enough money'. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45323 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] linear power supply for duet?
firedog;329153 Wrote: Hi- I've been told by a dealer (who also mods the units for personal use) that a properly grounded linear power supply will noticeably improve the sound of the Duet. ... Thanks Make an offer to him - double or nothing. If he catches it on DBT, double the price, otherwise, get it for free. He shouldn't have a problem accepting a deal, after all an improvement is noticeable. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] linear power supply for duet?
occam;329330 Wrote: Perhaps you could share your expertise on exactly how one would go about doing a DBT, or a SBT or ABx for that matter, test on a powersupply for a SB/Duet? Due to the transitory nature of aural memory, for a valid test, one would need to switch the supplies within about 3 seconds, without turning the SB/Duet off. Its quite interesting that inevitably the shibboleth of DBT is allways invoked by folks who've never actually done a valid one, or an invalid one for that matter. No, I haven't done a DBT test in over 30 yrs; its frankly not worth it to me, to switch via a computer controlled relay driven by a recording pseudo random binary generator, even if were possible to do so. But I do valid SBT and ABx all the time in developing my power condioners, because you can bypass them and then take them out of the circuit completely via switches without dropping power. Its an very useful tool. I've no issues with properly implemented blind testing. It would be nice if other posters had actually done any (I might well have missed them) and shared their experiences, rather than reflexively invoking that tired shibboleth. So, with all that experience that you have, it didn't cross your mind to use two duets, one with switching and another one with linear supply and stick them into the same preamp. I'm not an expert at all in any of this, but if somebody tried to sell me something that doubles the price of the original product, I'd expect them to somehow show me that it works. DBT might not be worth it to you - quite contrary, but to me, as a paying consumer, it certainly is. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] digital is digital OR NOT
gsawdy;322154 Wrote: ...difference between the stock and modded Duet is less pronounced when listening via the digital outputs... ... this just means the reviewer could not hear damn bit of difference, but is reluctant to say so. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50147 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !
BigTony;319518 Wrote: I tried to simplfy the situation by listening with headphones directly to the SB3, and the sibilance can be heard right there, and subsequently throughout my system.If i play a SACD there is no sibilance. This only occured this week. Driving my crazy. ... Are we talking about the same recording SACD vs red book? K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?
MrJB;316972 Wrote: One small note, sound aside, user interface is another feature to consider when evaluating a DAC. For example, the Benchmark DAC1 does not have a remote on/off, in fact it has no on/off at all. Power is controlled by the powerstrip you plug it into. Which I find to be a bit of a pain. Notice that the new Bryston BDA-1 has a trigger input. Advantage Bryston. Regards Very good point. I went with the external DAC ($400, just info for people who put value to that kind of info), and if it was only to sound difference, I would not have bothered. Even when I think there's some, I'm pretty positive I would not be able to get it in DBT. However, with the DAC I got: - variable output controlled by analog pot. (enables me to bypass preamp and that makes the biggest difference in SQ IMNSHO) - good headphone amp - DAC to connect projector to the system (somewhat specific) K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49316 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: ... There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a really good CD player instead of selling it... It is really amazing how different approach we all can take on common issues. :) If I was to write the prior paragraph it would read something like this: ... There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library _is the best_ one of them. For this reason alone, _I got into the SB world, packed up all of my CDs into a storage and never looked back_ ... :) K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice on 24/96 with SB3 Please.
Phil Leigh;314807 Wrote: I have yet to hear of anyone who can aurally distinguish between the discard every other sample method used by the SB and using (say) Audacity to downsample with a proper algorithm. Anyone disagree? Well, I ... kind of. When I was playing with 24/96, it happened that sometimes SB would play 96 fine and sometimes it would have loud clicks and cracks (similar to what you hear from CD player when CD is damaged or from up sampling DAC when fed with the sample rate that is not supported). I could not establish a pattern. It happened on a couple of tracks (one of them being Stravinsky's 'Solder's Story'), download links published at this site a while ago. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49218 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...
Howard Passman;311247 Wrote:
a magnifying glass ;-)
Magnifying glass - that's so analog. Try zooming in in the digital
domain ('+' and '-' buttons on you controller), that might help.
K
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Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!
so, let's see how long before somebody here claims that in his system, to his ears this cable ... :) K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2 weeks without LP's!
pfarrell;294305 Wrote: opaqueice wrote: Edison cylinders... bah! Kids these days, with their new-fangled junk! Recordings, junk. Hire a musician, tell them to play, listen. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Hire ??? You revolutionary libertarian. Own one. Or, even better, own a couple of them, call them an orchestra and then own a composer to get them some work. Feed them as much as needed to survive and you'll be surprised with the results. Sound produced by the musician in fear for its very existence makes a HUGE difference. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Duet Sound
kazinvan;292801 Wrote: .. The duet alone is not audiophile gear and I doubt anyone will convince me otherwise. Before this turns ugly, maybe a little attempt for better understanding is in order. What is your definition of an 'audiophile gear'? K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
That V8 amp looks cool. I wonder what the torque on that thing might be. Seriously though, If he was really and critically listening some music there, no way he wouldn't have noticed resonance coming from that upright piano there. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: 'Alternative' CD formats..SACD, HDCD, XRCD
opaqueice;290665 Wrote: It's debatable whether mathematics should be considered science, but otherwise I agree... What??? From now on you are going to have me on your case like Patrick Dixon. (well, almost like Patrick Dixon) :) :) . My degree comes from School of Mathematics (in European school system it is a separate faculty, grouped with natural sciences). One of the first things I learned there is that 'mathematics doesn't trust senses'. Everything is proof. However, I believe it is both art and science, depending how one chooses to go about it. Sorry for 'off-topick-ing'. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45839 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter of SB3
Manelus;287558 Wrote: ... I'm not talking about measurements or tech considerations, only EAR. ... and eye? K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1k Speakers
JSonnabend;277029 Wrote: Ok, my almost 15 year old Martin Logan Aerius' need new stators. Before I jump in and do this DIY repair, I thought I'd check out speakers around $1k to see what's out there. I've loved my ML's for a long time. If I have any criticisms, they are: (1) they are much to sensitive to placement (both where they are and where the listener is) to create a proper image; and (2) they lack a bit of punch. Anyone have any thoughts? - Jeff to get speakers that exactly match your definition and price range, check out Magnepans MG12QR. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44420 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB-3 and external DAC
NoFlyZone;275236 Wrote: Anybody listen to an Audio Note 2.1 DAC from SB3? I've modded my SB3 with the KE DAC, National LM4562 Opamp and a Welborne PS. It amazingly clean but still missing the imaging I continually seek. Audio Note offers this DAC in kit form. For $500 the Paradisea+ DAC looks pretty nice. I go back and forth between furthering the mods of my SB3 or looking for an outboard DAC. At this point everything that I've in between the signal path of the SB3 to Nuforce 9SEV2 has been to the detriment. Imaging is primarily function of speakers (their mid and high component), room, the seating position and speaker placement. This is where the bigest bang for the money is. Magnepans will 'image' with stock SB3 playing 32 Kbps stream. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
improvisato;274627 Wrote: I haven't had much luck finding a used studio amp yet, but I'm going to keep looking. Thanks for the tip, AJones. I did, however, have a chance to audition the NAD 352 with my speakers. Doing a blind test between my 50watt Denon 275 and the 80watt NAD 352 was certainly reveaving. I think that the NAD 372 is going to be a bit overkill for my setup and room dimensions, but I was very impressed with the sound of the NADs. I'd be interested in any other SB owners with positive or negative experiences with the 352. I have 352 running a set of Magnepans (86 Db sensitivity, 4 Ohms) without any trouble. It's good work horse, lots of current, NAD is pretty conservative with their ratings. I seldom go over 9:30 on the volume knob. Decent sound too. I'm not going to state that all amps sound the same, but I have compared it to 372 and the only difference was that I achieved desired volume level earlier (8:30), which is not good actually, since there's less granularity in selecting the volume level within optimal range. 372 can be bridged into 250W mono if that's what one needs. Both 352 and 372 have lots of inputs including tape in/out, preamp out and main amp in separated. Additional AC out, controlled by the main switch. 352 has 2 good features, tone control with tone control defeat (bypass that is) and anti clipping circuitry. The only thing that I don't like about 352 is a fact that volume knob has hardly visible marker, so it's hard to tell where it is (it's motor driven by the remote). And, fringe benefit, 352 comes with very good remote which is way better than the original one that comes with the SB. So, when used with the SB, it reacts faster, more reliably and has plenty of buttons (meant to control CD player and tuner) to re-program. As always, trust your ears, but 352 is an excellent product for the money. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you listen to lossy codecs or lossless ?
Talking about the sound strictly, there's no reason to go lossy these days. Especially if one is starting from a CD. Now, if we are talking about the music, I'll take it any way shape or form I can. If I can I'll store it in FLAC. If not, then which ever way it comes is fine. Not everything worth listening is available in 16/44.1 these days. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43910 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
GuyDebord;272406 Wrote: go for the Creek Classic 5350SE, much better than the NAD, good luck for more than double the price, it better be. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!
haraldo;271330 Wrote: I'm also thinking about dynamic range, with high quality gear, I'm not convinced that the dynamic range in practice is significantly better on Red-book CD than Vinyl (192/24 is tottaly another issue) You can convince me of course, if you like :-D -H Oh, with great pleasure. I'm not going for second to pretend that I know how esoteric and expensive analog equipment out there sounds, but from the prospective of somebody who, 30 years ago, had access to average gramophone and reasonably well preserved records, I can attest that there's no way one can compare the experiences of listening to the classical music. I mean, c'm on, be realistic. Half of classical stuff out there (intro to Mozart's requiem, for example) has such dynamic range that the record on the average equipment simply can't bring it up. One constantly needs to ride the volume button, bring it high for silent parts and then try to distinguish between music and cracks, pops and shs, then make sure to turn it back down before speakers clip in FFF part. Alternatively, music sounds like it suddently starts and stops off and on, where ppp parts are simply missing. Strictly, from the prospective of being able to properly hear most of the live recording of the classical performances, I'll take $50 DVD player over most of the turntables I heard. CD does it for me. And, while I'm runnning to grab my flamesuit, yes, I'm avare that $50 CD player has defficiences, mostly in dynamic response; in my experience, the differences among various concert halls and among various conductors and their renderings of certain pieces are way more significant than that. Running for cover, K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
Mark Lanctot;269807 Wrote: ...Now the SB1 had an equalizer, so it is possible to do this in software by accessing some code in the hardware I'd imagine. Then again, many audiophiles would not want such uncleanliness in their signal path... thks, that explains why there are treble and bass controls in prefs file that I couldn't activate :). So why was that discontinued? Fully agree with messing with the signal path, and that's why I was asking for something that can be switched Off and On (unlike Inguz that is happily crunching all the time). Now, back to the issue, obviously such EQ would have to be implemented into the SB, not the SC. Given that it already deals with lot, not likely that it will happen. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
miklorsmith;269485 Wrote: A parametric EQ feature is a no-brainer addition to the software. It allows fixing and customization in-room that nearly every system in the universe could use. It could be turned off and presets would be possible. Wanna turn down the treble and boost the bass for those old Zep albums? No problem. Jazz and classical might want a lighter touch, preset #2. Pull the most out of a well-recorded vocalist's stuff? You get the idea. The Squeezebox/Transporter has the potential to be the first and absolute best option for doing frequency corrections like this. Inguz has a nice EQ, but it could be expanded and really should be a core feature of the software. +10 for this. I still can't believe it's not there to begin with. I mean, every piece of software out there has it (mp3, foobar, iTunes ??). Inguz is nice, but requires too much juice from server and provides more than most people need. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
darrenyeats;269511 Wrote: People can choose just to use InguzEQ and then they don't need to worry about building room filters with specialised software. The EQ GUI plugin lets you set, save and load EQ settings from the SB3/Transporter remote. (However you can choose, like me, to use it in a more complicated manner, but most people don't.) GUI aside, the actual quality of the generated EQ filters improved A LOT in version 0.9.27. It is possible to make closely spaced precise corrections now. If anyone has any suggestions for improvements hop onto forum.inguzaudio.com Darren Yes, but it still has a few drawbacks: - takes too much resources (there goes the idea of using an old PC to do it). - does not have an easy off/on switch. To take it down, one needs to change file settings on server. The way around is to bring bands to 0 and that still attenuates by 6 (or so DBs) and still uses PC resources. - Can not be used on the album by album or track by track bases (the way winamp works). I don't wont to do the whole room correction filter generation, but rather to adjust certain recordings that I feel don't sound right. It shouldn't be to difficult to make it to remember setting for the particular track or album. I probably don't see the whole picture here but I really don't get it what a big deal is. As mentioned in the prior post, every software player around has it and it doesn't seem to take any additional resources. Why would it be different on SS? K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...
boudy;265452 Wrote: I recently added a Citypulse DA2.03e II to my main system. I was expecting some level improvement, but wow, I am blown away. There is a major improvement in definition and strength of the bass, and a significant improvement in overall clarity. Before adding the DAC, my system consisted of: SB3 (digital out) to DEQ2496 (analog out) to Music Angel 845 tube amp (modified). Present configuration: SB3 (digital out) to DEQ2496 (digital out) to Citypulse DAC to MA 845. I'm using the DEQ2496 for room correction and to help me tune my DIY speakers. I originally found the analog output of the DEQ2496 to be at least as good as the SB3's analog output. Speakers consist of 8 full range Fostex 206ESR drivers in BIB's (horns that load into the ceiling - they are huge!). I really dig these speakers, they fill the whole house with great sound, and they produce plenty deep clean bass. I went with the Citypulse because I want a remote volume control and because of its excellent reputation. Hi, would you care to do a blind test SB3 analog out vs. Citypulse? Could you describe the differences. I have a similar DAC and I'm curious abut your opinion. thks, K. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43046 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter digital connections
Make sure your DVD outputs PCM signal to its digital output. Ususaly there's a setting for that in DVD digital audio menu - try looking for something like RAW vs. LPCM. Also, look for something called 'downmix' and make sure it's set to stereo. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 VS the Transporter
Mark Lanctot;263647 Wrote: LOL, +1! Personally I find a modded Yugo makes a fullstrike against a Porche myself. You should try them blind. Initially, you might think there's a difference but, later on, everything becomes equally black. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42840 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263808 Wrote: ... Other views that will support JJZolx and Funkstar's views or perhaps there is dissent?... Hi, unlike the 'audiophilia', this isn't a matter of 'believe' or 'view' or 'opinion'. Rather it's about cold technical facts. SB concept doesn't include PC sound devices at any point. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There's More There There!
Kurt;259973 Wrote: Why did you just quote yourself? Is that one of the adverse effects of jitter? Are you the mastermind behind this gem? http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm If you didn't get 'discernible difference' with those, it's only because you didn't allow enough time for them to burn in. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42094 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
Besides a remote, it's not clear whether audio outputs are fixed or variable. What about balanced outputs, fixed or variable? Can analog audio input be passed out through balanced outputs? Lots of unknowns that might decide if it makes a cut for a preamp. However, if somebody finds this concept interesting, than, you might want to know that CityPulse 7.2x has those features (+remote, volume control works on analog stage) for approx 4 times less money. In my experience, if one wants to go with the external DAC, than it's worth exploring the possibility to delete the preamp. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6moons preview ModWright Transporter
opaqueice;257317 Wrote: In the eye of the beholder, of course. Personally I've always loved the combination of archaic and ultra-modern, and not just in audio gear. You must be a huge fan of Joan Rivers then :) Sorry, just could not resist. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41756 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Doh! Now we need 24-bit/176.4kHz on the Transporter!
Phil Leigh;255166 Wrote: Unfortunately, the everything louder than everything else mastering technique can't be reversed. Once the dynamic has been lost - it's gone. The resultant squashed dynamic can't be undone. Do you have a few examples of badly mastered albums? My modern collection is rather small... I'd need a frame of reference. Ok, let's be serious here. Like there was any dynamic to begin with. When was it last time you heard rock band playing, ppp than crescendo into FFF, for example :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41824 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
harmonic;253757 Wrote: ... Some do not like musical sound or know what the word musical exactly means or feels... Right on the money. Besides the term 'musical', I also don't understand the exact meaning of 'PRAT' and 'dynamic' when used in an audiophile context. So, would you, please, care to elaborate. May I suggest using well known musical examples to demonstrate, rather than using one word to describe other. And, just in case that the language bareer gets in the way, this is not meant to be cynical question, but very sincere one. People use those words in this forum, and I'd like to know what they exactly mean by them. thks. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying A DAC and comparing with a SB3 and a Dony CD Changer
honest answer based on some personal experiences and what I found around on the net: SB built-in DAC is rather good (or rather standard if you like) one, and buying comparably priced DAC to use it with SB3 would mostly be a vaste of money, unless it has some other features you need. I can't talk for more expensive ones (like Benchmark or Lavry), but in sub $1000 range there won't be much difference (if any) in sound ... And, remember that the sound of the DAC isn't entirely defined by its chip. At least, don't pay the money before you have a chance to listen to it and compare (preferably in BT). Make sure they are level matched. The most benefit I got with the external DAC was not direct sound improvement over SB bulit in, but the ability to go directly into the power amp, bypassing the preamp. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41706 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiFi or Ethernet?
darrenyeats;251439 Wrote: Eric, WAVs take roughly twice the network bandwidth of FLACs. I have no problems streaming 16 bit WAVs or 24 bit FLACs over my wireless-G network. Haven't tried a 24 bit WAV but if you do the maths it should be well within the capacity of even wireless-B. I can't imagine many people here using wireless if it wasn't able to take lossless streaming, but it's no problem. Perhaps you are suffering problems with poor wireless signal. This is a different matter to running out of bandwidth with a good signal. Darren Wireless problems aren't usually related to bandwidth, but to the ability to deliver constant and uninterrupted signal. I have given it up and switched to wired. Too many hickups due to wirless phones or microwave ovens. Wireless network probably (miss)behaves the same all the time, but it's just way more annoying when one hears it or remote doesn't react. Tried every trick in the book, just to discover that my router reacts to wireless phone even if there are no wireless devices attached to it. However, when it works, the sound quality is exactly the same. Of course, in the HiFi world, there will always be good old disclaimer ...in my system, to my ears... :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41365 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WiFi or Ethernet?
GuyDebord;251448 Wrote: My Airport express streams without interference nor breaks, so theoretically it transfers the exact same bits as a cable would, right? so unless I have streaming pauses, wiring would be unnecessary, right? do more ones and zeros pass through a cable? so theoretically WiFi is the best connection because you eliminate any possible RF interference that the cable might attract, just the audiophile dream realized, no cables!!! You got it right for all the wrong reasons. :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41365 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Overwhelmed by Transporter
Fifer;250040 Wrote: I followed this advice but the mod seems obvious on my black Transporter. Did I do something wrong? Obvious? You know how our senses are fooled easily. Ever tried to tell them appart using DBT or DBX? Well, I though so. :) And, BTW, does this qualify as a 'plug-in' since one is supposed to plug in the holes with chewing gum? K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41126 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Overwhelmed by Transporter
mvalera;249925 Wrote: I guess you could take off the face plate and unscrew them from the inside, but then you would have holes in the front. Mike nothing that can't be taken care of with some chewing gum and silver spray paint. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41126 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FYI - mp3 file quality audibility
http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/11/few_listeners_can_distinguish.php -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41120 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] problem with Transporter
Any chance the university in question is Berkley? -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41026 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] most bang for the buck
gwnzen;245358 Wrote: Oops My bad thanks darren 1 week ago i replace my cambridge audio 640C with SB3 to feed CA 640A and drive Wharfedale 9.1. I like the improvement warmer detail midrange and not bright unlike my previous setup. But I miss wider soundstage my old CA did.and the SB3 sounds a bit grainier. I Had sold my CDP before the sb3 arrive. I guess maybe the mainslead which is now left behind contribute to that negative effect. btw I bought shek d1 DAC last night it cost me only 200 USD 2md hand. but the question remain whether or not I am doing the right move here. Also I heard that if you use external DAC you don't need linear PSUupgrade. Is that correct? I hope so thanks One thing to keep in mind is that SB's analog signal level is slightly lower than most (I had a chance to compare) CD players, and that would lead to the exact impressions you are having. Also, audio memory is quite short for the type of comaprison you are trying to make. In my experience (BT), SB analog out is quite good and it won't be significantly improved with sub $1000 DAC. One thing to try in you case is to use DAC as a preamp and connect directly to the amp input of your 640A, by-passing its internal preamp. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised with the result. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Acoustic Foam
Very interesting topic, especially since my experience is that room accoustic/speaker placement influences the sound much more than some other things. Now, question for north Americans (because of the specific way how our homes are warmed up); Do you think that your systems sound differently during the heating season? Do dry and warmer air influence the sound in any detectable way? (Not that I'm looking for some audiophile approved furnace, filter or thermostat) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38859 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Acoustic Foam
Phil Leigh;239320 Wrote: (I'm not American, but...) ... .. and that completely disqualifies you from this topic :). BTW, neither am I, but I do reside in North America. Reason for targeting that region is because, unlike most of other places I have visited or in which I have lived, majority of N.A. homes use forced hot air for heating, and that dries the air so much, that some Asian piano makers have discovered that they have to treat their wood differently for this market (not for sound but for durability) BTW, I appologize to the OP for swaying the thread a bit. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38859 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
I'm afraid we have very serious case of upgradeitis here. Nurse, hand me a check book, please. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 3rd party power supply
ceejay;237866 Wrote: ... Incidentally, the answer to the question does the linear PSU make a difference in this particular system is a resounding yes: no need for DBT!! The reason is that the SB2 is in close proximity to an FM radio, and the switching PSU makes the radio completely (and I do mean completely) unusable. Moving over to a linear PSU made it usable again Hi, that's great. I mean, not great but glad you were able diagnose and remedy the problem. Now, did you try to bring some other PSU (answering machine or something like that) to the same plug. Did it create the same issue? I'm very curious to find out is it any PSU, or this one that feeds SB is especially bad? Thks, K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe SteveCresswell;237642 Wrote: Here's my setup. Home designed and built 6AS7 retro 50s style George Jetson push-pull valve amplifier Fostex single driver speakers and Squeezebox 3. Beresford TC7510 Mk6 DAC can be seen below Squeezebox. Steve Wow. That's what I'd call a real beauty. Comparable only to hand crafted cedar strip canoe. (Coming from Canadian, it says a lot :) ) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 3rd party power supply
SatoriGFX;237799 Wrote: I don't know. Why don't you try removing ALL the switching supplies in your house and find out? I'm only half kidding ... How do you know that your system wouldn't sound better if you eliminated all sources of RF and other noise? Well, sometimes when nobody is around the house and I have nothing better to do ... well you get the idea. Let's say I just constantly fail to notice any gain that might be coming from cutting of (or adding to the same power bar like SB) various wallwarts, re-arranging power supplies and similar activities. I'm not saying ther are not any benefits to upgrading power supply, using power cords or interconnects and similar. I just don't have completely silent room nor I invested $100 000 in my system, so I really can't be sure it's an absolute truth. But in the financialy balanced system where SB3 is a front and and in most of setups that can be seen in our photo gallery, in my experience it doesn't make too much sense to match SB3 with equally costing ps. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
seanadams;218214 Wrote: Wow - talk about taking a quote out of context! I think it was pretty clear that TireLegs was referring to the difference between a user's manual and an advertisement (the subject at hand), not saying that a manual shouldn't be accurate. The sentence was taken out of context for shortness and clarity. It is marked with '...' for the purpose of pointing that fact out. Taking it out of context didn't change the meaning and the point of the original text. If you disagree, please, quote the original post and show my malicious intentions. @ Mark: I didn't say it is illegal. I was asking for the list of manufactures who adhere to those practices, so that I can avoid them. And again. What is the purpose of the manual if it isn't accurate? -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
TiredLegs;218190 Wrote: ...Manufacturers are not obligated to make products behave the way their manuals say... Really? So, what then, is the purpose of the manual? Anyhow, would you care to share for which products/manufacturers you have worked so far - I mean, I could use some avoidance references. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I replace my cables every 1000 hours
funkstar;213056 Wrote: Oh god! does this mean i have to re-wire my house every couple or years so i can get optimum power out of my sockets?!?! ;) As a matter of fact, you do. Every 50-ish years. With the change in technology, power requirements change, as well as safety code. So it is a good idea to do. Oh, and BTW, those who decide to replace their cables after 1000 hrs, should know that there's very special procedure required to recycle them properly . Otherwise, they may explode and blow into your face. Also, that contributes a great deal to the global warming. However, luckily for you, no reason to worry, I'll do it for you for a small fee. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36658 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Claims that LAME mp3 encoding 'improves' the sound
funkstar;212939 Wrote: Another case of something sounding better as opposed to actually being of higher quality. You can make anything sound better, but that is completely different to a faithful reproduction of the source material. +1 for this remark. Just got back from the Jazz Club - so beer talking, but live music performed through the PA actually doesn't sound that great at all. Quite often, one can make recording sound way more appealing at one's home. So, question is just what's your ethalon. That is, sounding better than what? -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36638 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DAC comparison
hi, I though I might ask some of you who already upgraded. My biggest complain when it comes to the built in DAC in SB is sound if cimbals and kick drum when massaged with brushes. There's lot of that kind of activity in slow jazz, female vocals (Diana Krall) e.t.c. To me (and to my wife to even greater degree) that sounds more like an annoying static than like brushed kick drum. Combined with slowely kicked cimbal at the same time, it becomes rather unlistenable digital noise. Did anybody have a chance to compare that to the output of some of DACs out there? thks -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36036 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Olive Musica
firedog;205636 Wrote: Hi- ... Each unit has its advantages and disadvantages. I think the most important issue when deciding between the 2 types of systems is the issue of whether you do or don't want your music listening to be PC dependent. For those who don't have problems including a PC in the audio equation, the SB3 and Transporter are probably a better solution. For those with a desire to eliminate the PC from their audio system, the Olive is probably a better choice. Thanks, Danny While this kind of product should give Slimedevices some idea what needs to be done to the product in order to tackle other markets, I have hard time imagining that process of ripping and tagging can be fully automated without seriously suffering in the quality of outcome. My experience with using EAC and whatever it connects to on the Internet in order to get missing tags or DBpoweramp with its tagging capabilities is that there's no way that anything automatic could do a semi-decent job without seriously invoving Mp3tag and doing a lot of legwork. So, I'm thinking, if people can't be botheres to get involved in that part of process, they probably don't care for any other tag but album and track name. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Like in music before sound? M, hm, didn't get that impression from any of audiophile forums I attend :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Pale Blue Ego;206279 Wrote: I find that spinning CDs in a 52x CD-ROM drive for a few hours tends to elongate some of the zeros, making them slightly more one-like. This provides 50% more resolution, since instead of just 0s and 1s, you have bits that are halfway between. It's like getting an additional 8 bits of resolution for free... I found somethng similar, but my results vary somewhat. I seem to be getting non liner response from the whole process, where tracks positioned closer to the edge of the CD get more resolution than the tracks closer to the hole. I guess, it's because bits closer to the edge are exposed to higher linear speed. Difference is so significant that I can clearly detect it between the first and the last track without any DBT. However, when listening sequentially, differences are more subtle, but still discernable, so much so that even my wife sometimes comes from the kitchen (where she burns in all kinds of stuff) asking my why I keep listening those tracks close to the hole. That's why I'm not sure if I should invest in audiophile grade centrifugal force that would be able to defeat those pesky Newton's principals, or just get a big drill and drill out inner half of the disc. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help me spend my money!
Hypnotoad;206025 Wrote: Hi, I'm getting a better paying job and want to waste my money on audio equipment! Help me. I plan to rip all of my CDs, put them on an external hard drive and get a Transporter (which I would operate from my MacBook Pro). So far, so good, I hope. I'm then thinking about using the Transporter to directly feed the PrimaLuna Monoblocks (Prologue 6 or 7). Then, from this, drive Gallo Reference 3.1. Totaly cost of the system is around $7500 (with the Transporter). Does this sound like a good set up? I figure I could later upgrade the system by buying a good pre-amp, the Gallo amp (which effectively adds a sub-woofer to the Gallo's), a good stand, etc. Do you think there would be a better way to spend $7500 on music equipment? I listen to a lot of reggae, jazz, soul, some hip hop, some rock, various latin and african music. I'm a music freak. I want awe and musicality without changing the character of the music (by making it lush, etc.). I want good. And I want convenient, which is why the PrimaLuna autobiasing tubes is particularly appealing (although it is too bad they don't have balanced inputs). Any advice or thoughts greatly appreciated! I'm assuming you already did your homework, listened to bunch of setups and this is what you like the best. In that case, no comment. Just make sure you use some hardware attenuation. If you didn't ... well, for the kind of money you intend to spend, I'd plan on two months of extensive audioning. And if you are going to do that, make sure you check out planar speakers. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35766 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in SQ for different FW
S-Man;205455 Wrote: I guess I'll get lots of replies stating it's not possible to distinguish absolute phase. I don't think people will dispute that one can hear the change in phase. I'd dispute sole act of doing it - what's the point? Of course, your personal preference and liking aren't for discussion :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35274 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on a 2 channel rig
patherb2;204248 Wrote: Anyone have any comparative listening experience of the Benchmark and the Apogee versus the Channel Islands DAC? Also, does any one have any experience with the Creek integrated amp? It's Stereophile Class A rated, which makes me feel good, but I would feel even better if someone told me it would match well with the MA RS6s. Maybe a different prospective. Since I'm pretty much convinced that the speakers are defining factor in the overall system sound, and you are fixed on RS6, why not start with the basic SB3 - any amp $1000 range - MA RS6. Given your choice of speakers you might find that no DAC is necessary to make them give you all they have and that same may be true for the amp (unless you can get Creek for way less than its retail price). -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] does squeezebox 3 have a 'compilations' option?
needanamp;204303 Wrote: if any of you have an ipod, you will know what i mean. It prevents the artist list from being massive and unusable. or are there any other similar thing to tackle this problem? how do all you tackle this problem, or do you just put up with it? or always search by album? is there a plugin for this by any chance? thankyou. This is only a problem for someone who has many compilation discs. Look into server settings - behavior. Close to the top the are a few parameters to handle that. P.S. Please, move this into begginer forum -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 and external DAC - views
I heard people saying nice things about the Citypulse 7.2 -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35358 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in SQ for different FW
No, it won't, and you're wrong :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35274 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SqueezeBox + computer + QUAD 12L Active + DAC
Hi, If I'm getting this right, then you have confused the concepts of computer soundcard and Squeezebox. Generally, you use either one or another. If you use SB, then the quality of the sound coming from it has nothing to do with your computer soundcard. You can also connect the soundcard directly to your amp/active speakers, completely bypassing the SB. In either case, it would be going from the analog output of SB or soundcard into analog input of the amp/active speakers. For the detailed instructions and thorough clarification of the concept of SB, check out Wiki and other numerous posts in beginner and general forums. If you throw the DAC into the combination, it would be to replace either SB's or soundcard's internal DAC with (hopefully) better one. SB3 and most of better soundcards have digital outputs (optical or coaxial) that will go into the external DAC. From there, it's directly into the analog input of the amp or active speakers. But just wait a little. Once you hear SB, you'll know whether you want/need better DAC. Same, but even stronger, can be said for the upgrades to SB. Wait until you get familiar with the SB (and looks like you have a lot to learn and play with) and then see for yourself if you need to upgrade it. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35176 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NAD vs Cambridge Audio Amp advice
Nostromo;200559 Wrote: I'm also looking for a new system. At the moment, my mind is set on the Cambridge 640A V2. Now, the tricky part will be choosing the right speakers to go with it. The guy at my local high-fi shop suggested Triangle bookshelf speakers. When I told him I wanted bass, he suggested the Triangle Heliade instead. Another option would be getting the bookshelfs and a sub. Of course, I'll have to hear them before making the jump. I heard the combination of NAD320/Triangle Heliade. Wasn't impressed at all. Sounds sweet on less demanding music, but once things get going (like symph. orch. in full swing), turns into a mess - I think the speakers are to blame. May I suggest Dali Ikon 6 instead - comes from similar school, similar price class (likely to be found where ever Triangle is found), would work very nice with NAD/Cambridge and way cleaner sound. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35091 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NAD vs Cambridge Audio Amp advice
If you are looking into NAD320BEE, then look just a little bit further and check out NAD C-352. Little bit more expensive, but better. It is in the same price range/class as Cambridge Audio 640A, but it looks like it's getting slightly better reviews. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35091 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox
Pat Farrell;199457 Wrote: Pale Blue Ego wrote: If Britney Spears had to compete strictly on the quality of her music, her stuff wouldn't sell 1000 copies. [snip] from noticing that it's a very ordinary voice singing a completely empty lyric. Wow, this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say that she is a singer. Gets even worse. If you ripped her CD and put it into your music library, SB or Transporter would show her as an 'artist'. Now, that's a blow. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34928 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox
sorry, just couldn't resist, but: Phil Leigh;199129 Wrote: If you can point me at a successful business model that relied on constraining the rights of innocent people to enjoy the fruits of their hard work by assuming they are criminals with no evidence then I'd be very interested. Ever heard of pick_your_favorite_country government. :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34928 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRM lessons from the Squeezebox
Phil Leigh;199176 Wrote: That is a political model, not a business one! And the difference is? You must be very young :), otherwise you would have realised that the only reason man does anything is money (which is later used to buy two most important goods - power and women) :0 :) :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34928 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tried the Mac Mini directly to the DAC
agentsmith;198059 Wrote: Sort of like Glenn Gould putting microphones inside his piano to record. He also lets his breathing/mumbling/singing while playing be recorded. Scared @#$%^ out of me when I first heard some recordings of Bach on my MG12s. Sounded like somebody was breathing down my neck - I jumped from the chair :). But, that's Glenn Gould - he can get away with that kind of stuff. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34592 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality streaming music...
bert1e;197235 Wrote: There is a radio station called more fm from new zealand that has a 192kbps stream http://boombox.inspire.net.nz:8000/listen.pls I would be interested if anyone can find some others Just go to WinAmp's media library, look at shoutcasts. There are quite a few with 256 kbps -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34718 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker recommendations
adamslim;194888 Wrote: I like opera when I cook (especially when it's pasta, for some reason...), and my kitchen is small enough to keep other people out :) My point was : make a wife happy, and many things, cooking included, will be taken care of. :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34423 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker recommendations
darwinsmooth;194586 Wrote: Hi all, I want to setup my kitchen and am looking for recommendations for a good, compact set of speakers. My wife likes the small Bose ones - so something similarly unintrusive without the cost that I can plug the sqeezebox into would be welcome. I am looking at Acoustic Energy Aego M 2.1 atm. Any thoughts/experience appreciated. Hi, big picture here. Kitchen usually isn't a place where one really needs audiophile grade sound. Neither you will ever do any critical listening there - most likely elevator type, background music. And even then, you'll be asked to tone it down, 'people would like to talk' :). So, any of those will do. Go ahead and make your wife happy. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34423 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?
Skunk;194292 Wrote: There is also the subjectivist camp, but I guess they're not really audiophiles. What would you call someone who believes getting a great sounding system is a worthwhile endeavor, yet has skepticism of nearly all things audiophile? I don't 'believe'. This is not a religion. Reproduced music is a science and an art. I 'feel' and I 'know' K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34379 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnect recommendations
Mark Scanlan;193899 Wrote: Are you suggesting that a $30 - $40 blue jeans cable is real good audio quality i.e. you would put it between your Transporter and a $3000 amp? Do you think that the Transporter would mind? Or, that $3000 amp might get offended. If so, don't even try. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32988 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you have Bi-Wiring speaker terminals? Try this out!
Pat Farrell;192611 Wrote: chill wrote:[color=blue] I strongly believe that any one inch long bridge is going to be 'sufficient' Strongly agree. I have speakers (4 Ohm) that allow for resistor to be put in series with the tweeters after the crossover. Did some experimenting with various resistors, and I think I can begin to tell the difference at about 0.8 Ohms, and being pretty sure at 1.2 Ohms. So, tonal difference as a result of replacing just an inch of wire with different type ... I'll have to say: give me a break :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34163 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry
ceejay;190982 Wrote: You need to be aware that it is suspected, by me at least, that the nasty stuff is airborne transmitted, not carried via mains. So a safer test would have been to unplug completely. For next time, perhaps... Ceejay Just out of curiosity, do you unplug all such devices throughout your home while listening to the music. I mean, there must be at least 10 of them in typical NA household. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: Inexpensive Linear power supply
Jitterbug;190619 Wrote: Actually, it took some several years for Einstein's (1905) ideas to be accepted within the physics world, largely because he was an unknown. His fame came 14 to 15 years later when solar eclipse gave scientists an opprtunity to test his theory of general relativity. At those times, without internet or any other fast way of sharing information, ideas and confronting the opinions, that's relatively short. And, a piece of trivia for the occasion. Einstein was once quoted to say that '.. even though theory of relativity is being thought on every university in the world, there usually are no more than 12 people in one moment in the whole world who actually understand it ...'. BTW, that is my impression of 'jitter' after seeing it discussed on this and similar forums :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: Inexpensive Linear power supply
Antipodes;190255 Wrote: Looks like the audiophiles left this forum a long time ago. I just hope the Transporter attracts a more enlightened following someday. QUOTE] hi, would you care to define the terms 'audiophile' and 'enlightened' the way you use them. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
So, what's the bottom line to all this? Has it ever been tested in ABX whether power supply influences the sound? -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system
Mark Lanctot;189243 Wrote: Usually it's the administrative assistants playing those brain-sucking, mindless light rock radio stations (they always seem to be named EZ Rock wherever I go) that play the same 10 songs over and over again. You must be from Alberta, CA :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33584 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system
325xi;189251 Wrote: I would say AE5 value is terrific, and would highly recommend them. Hi, I understand you are in Canada. Where did you get them from? Thks, K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33584 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
Phil Leigh;188623 Wrote: Hmmm...funny how break-in NEVER makes things sound worse... how do you mean 'never'? for example, brand new car has a life expectancy, say 250K Km. That same car, after being properly broken in, after 20 000 Km, has now a life expectancy of 230K Km. So, new was better :) :) :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
hi mmg_fan, I just noticed you got MG12, rather than MMGs. So, how do you like them with Yolida? Can you tell there are tubes in the path (as opposed to some SS amp of the similar level)? Is Yolida capable of driving MGs? Back to the topic. Can you, with your equipment, tell the difference between any different brand speaker cables, regardless of broken in or not? K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system
325xi;187827 Wrote: BTW, re Zhaolu - is it really better then built-in DAC in SB... I just don't know if it worth the extra box and cables... I was going to ask the same question. Are those new DACs like Zhaolu, Citypulse e.t.c. so obviously better than SB3 DAC, that they are worth money/extra box? (obviously better - difference can be ABXed and described in words) As far as OP question goes, Totem has Model 1 - both sonically and aesthetically pleasing for ~$1000. THey might be nicely matched with NAD, Cambridge or Yolida - all in significally $1000 price range. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33584 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
P Floding;186301 Wrote: Seems bits are not so easy for some designers. But, that thread opens very interesting question, for me at least. Assuming that the price/sound quality ratio of DA10 is right, and assumig that it works as advertised with regarding to its features, do we even care that there are questionable technical explanations made by its creator, or that there are some parts that are non functional? -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
AndyC_772;185365 Wrote: Similarly, I don't think anyone can say they have no credibility because they choose to use Black Sabbath as a test track. Don't heavy metal fans get a vote too? Personally I couldn't give a stuff how a system sounds with jazz or classical - if it doesn't reproduce dark electro and industrial music with clarity, depth, power and aggression then it's no good to me. Plaintive cries about how smooth, relaxed or refined it is will fall (metaphorically speaking) on deaf ears - choosing music to suit the equipment is the tail wagging the dog. Fair enough, and I didn't mean to start a war on music tastes. And, certainly, if I was into the listening the crickets in the fields, I would have chosen the gear that presents them in the best possible way. However, this is supposed to be unbiased comaprison of the high level/priced components. Everybody (who is into the music) knows how the piano, bass, human voice or any natural recordable sound sounds. So we know the criteria when it comes to judging the performance of the piece of gear. I don't know how the electric guitar in Black Sabbath (or Pink Floyd) really sounds and neither do you. So, we both can choose the gear that we like best. And likely, they would be different. But we can't credibly claim that one is better than the other only because we like it better in presenting our preffered type of music. So, my point in choosing the type of music in such tests is, since we are testing High Fidelity gear, we have to have a criterion - fidely to what. Again, no hard feelings towards metal fans :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
bobschneider;185676 Wrote: Of course you can know how an electric guitar sounds in a real acoustic. You just have to consider the amplifier as part of the instrument. Musicians certainly do - guitarists put as much care into the choice of amp as of guitar. There are plently of web sites out there discussing the sounds of guitar amps, and how they change with different brands of tubes. Of course you're right ... in '50s or '60s of the last century. However, we are talking Black Sabbath here. Now, try to remember when was it last time you saw heavy metal band playing on the Stratocaster plugged in directly into Mashall/Fender tube amp. Likelier, there will be like 20-ish different gadgets in the signal path before it even reaches the amp if it even goes there rather than directly into the mixer. And the real fun is just starting there. And it's not true that all music gets significantly processed. It would be a cold day in hell before Mr. Karajan lets some sound engineer boost and then clipp highs in his rendetion of Mozart's requiem :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?
While we are here, check this one out: http://www.audiophilia.com/hardware/yamamura.htm -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32993 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
The fact that somebody would use Black Sabbath to do any kind of audio comparison seriously undermines their credibility. Comparing S/PDIF and wireless without even mentioning the source of S/PDIF probably means that they are confused between computer networking and using digital soundcard output. This review simply doesn't tell me anything about the intended equipment. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you use WAV or FLAC ? Pros vs Cons.....Please :-)
jeffmeh;184924 Wrote: Hey, I'm pretty much of an audio objectivist, so I share your skepticism. However, I cannot categorically rule out that someone might be able to hear a difference on some system. An ABX test would be pretty enlightening. :-P How dare you, sir, ask people to prove their points. They don't owe anything to you. :) K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32999 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Please recommend best quality solution
adamslim;184546 Wrote: I'd buy an SB3 if you don't have one already, spend some money on your computer making sure you can rip quickly (or pay to have it done) and buy some more CDs :) Adam I'd tend to agree with this idea very much. Transporter is very high level source, and it would be an overkill for the rest of your system. You didn't mention your speakers, but I'd assume they are on par with the receiver, quality wise. Go with the squeezebox, and then you'll have a choce to compare its analog vs. digital through the receiver and stick to what you like better. Especially, if your receiver doesn't have analog pass through, then feature where the bigest improvement in transporter is, its DAC, will be useless to you. As far as computer goes, what you have is enough. Get some more disk space, maybe another 512M of memory and go FLAC. Performance would be more dependent on the ability of your network K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33197 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
