Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin Welch

Maybe its because no one has started a thread about SNMP

-- Kevin
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:30 PM
Subject: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??


> Folks,
>
> Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000 Network
proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be too attractive
! not on the forum at least.
>
> Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
>
> Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of SNMP
topics on any of the CCxx exams ?
>
> Is there any exams to prove the mettle of SNMP geeks ?
>
> -Guru
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: What is the latest 2924 XL OS ?

2001-01-07 Thread Marco Rodrigues

If you even bothered to look at the link, you'll notice the m isn't part
of the hyper link in the email.


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> Mr Jones,
>
> That URL still does not lead to the " latest OS od 2924".
> It leads  to
>
> " Document not found".
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> Thanks for the english typed.
>
> -Guru
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Re: cisco router 2610 HSRP in Bay switch

2001-01-07 Thread Erick B.

What are you asking - it's not that clear.

Anyway, HSRP is Cisco propiertary and will not work on
a Bay switch (use VRRP). If you have 2 Cisco devices
w/HSRP plugged into a Bay switch or hub that shouldn't
be a problem since the HSRP packets should just pass
through the switch. There was a code issue on the 450
switch (I believe it was the 450) which stopped it
from forwarding HSRP packets correctly. It could have
been a multicast issue. This has been corrected
though. What type of Bay switch do you have and what
code?

--- eric^_^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi :
> 
> I can't use the cisco router 2610 HSRP in Bay switch
> .HSRP  will active
> in both route.
> So, Now this temp connect in the HUB only. Any
> problem in Bay switch ?
> 
> Thanks
> Eric


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CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread Jon Cuthbert

Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams now required for
the Security specialisation.

I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
out. But what about the PIX and other exams.

Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
specialistation compared with the others.

Thanks

Jon

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Re: x.25 stock exchange system.

2001-01-07 Thread Sam LI

in this case, use the bridge method

bridge 1 protocl ieee
int s 0
  no ip add
  bridge-group 1

int e 0
  no ip add
  bridge-group 1

check the command syntax. since i don;t have the
router with me.

Sam
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From: "eric^_^" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: x.25 stock exchange system.


> Hi Sam :
>
> The stock exchange provide not need any ip address in both interface
between stock and
> my router, then how to config our router ?
>
> Thanks !
> eric ^_^
>
>
>
> Sam LI wrote:
>
> > Well
> > to enable the x25 on your router, you need
> >
> > int s 0
> >   encap x25
> >
> > if the stock exchange provide ip address, then
> > int s 0
> >   encap x25
> >   ip address A.B.C.E 255.
> >
> > and forward it to ethernet interface
> > int e 0
> >   ip address X.Y.Z.Z
> >
> > then you can enable any routing protocol that you want
> > like RIP,
> >
> > router Rip
> >   network A.B...
> >   network X.Y
> >
> > Sam
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "eric^_^" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "charlesw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Fong Kwok Wai Alvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 12:26 AM
> > Subject: x.25 stock exchange system.
> >
> > > Dear All :
> > >
> > > I need connect to x.25 stock exchange system.
> > > But, I don't know how to connect it with following limit information.
> > > And then, How to config our cisco 2610 recervie the x.25 packet and
> > > forward the
> > > packet to (IP)ethernet interface .
> > > (remark : no any config in router include pvc./ x.121 address..etc/
from
> > > stock operation
> > > staff, ?? PnP ?)
> > >
> > > *
> > > communication line speed  : 128 K
> > > comm pro   : X.25 on a leased line
> > > re-transmit time-out (t) : 3 sec
> > > re-transmit limit (N2)  : 10
> > > frame windows size  : 7
> > >
> > > X.25 interface
> > >
> > > x.25 type   : x.25(1984)
> > > interface(L2/L3)  : DTE
> > > Windows size(default)  : 7
> > > packet (default)  : 1024
> > >
> > > * x.25 will provide a low level polling mechanism.
> > > This form of poling will allow any disconnection of
> > > information Vendors to be detected by market datafeed system.
> > >
> > > Many thanks ^_^
> > >
> > >
> > >
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CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread Jon Cuthbert

Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams now required for
the Security specialisation.

I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
out. But what about the PIX and other exams.

Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
specialistation compared with the others.

Thanks

Jon

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Boson and BSCN

2001-01-07 Thread Timothy Metz

Which Boson is recommended for BSCN?

Thanks

Tim


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Radius support in cisco routers

2001-01-07 Thread Nezar Ahmed

hello everyone,
As far as I can see there is no Radius support in cisco's 16xx and =
26xx series. Is it a software version limitation ? For example do newer =
releases support radius ? Or is it a hardware limitation ? If this was =
the case which series supports radius ?
Thanks for your help.
Nezar

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Re: eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN

2001-01-07 Thread ahmad bilal

Dear whit,

What are u running frame-relay on (ie. frame-relay switch "passport"?)
anyways yes ur idea is right u can give floating static routes with higher
admin distance but why eigrp why not ospf (my fav ).

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> other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN.  Question: What is
the
> best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario?  My thoughts were to run
EIGRP
> over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface,
> and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative
> distance for ISDN backup)
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Re: Ospf process re-initialising

2001-01-07 Thread ahmad bilal

hi Mateen,

Yes ive tried this in a lab too the thing is it doesnt change even if u
delete the loopback interface ,after changing the loopback addy try reload.

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> I tried clear ip ospf process  but it is not working.
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Re: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread mak



I think the only good resources is the Documentation.
Regards,
mak
Jon Cuthbert wrote:
Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams
now required for
the Security specialisation.
I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
out. But what about the PIX and other exams.
Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
specialistation compared with the others.
Thanks
Jon
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Re: ATM

2001-01-07 Thread Circusnuts

I sure would think you'd see it.  It was on the old ACRC, all-be-it simple
DXI stuff.  I sure would imagine you will see something...

.02
Phil

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> Greet all
>
> Does ATM pop up anytime during the CCNP course
>
> If not, don't you think it should?
>
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Cisco CCNP Preparation Library, Second Edition (Opinions??)

2001-01-07 Thread Albert Lu

What are all the CCNP and CCNP in-the-making's opinion on the Cisco CCNP
Preparation Library, Second Edition for studying for their CCNP? How does
it compare to other ones? Are there any other books on top of the library
that is recommended to read on top of them for further info?


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Re: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread Tommy Mitchell

In case you should stumble upon it, avoid the syngress book "Managing Cisco
Network Security."  I don't know what the Cisco Press book will be like, but
it has to be better than this collection of technical mistakes and bad
editing.  The IPSec and CBAC chapters from "Enhanced IP Services for Cisco
Networks" are excellent, so that should give you a start.  Other than that
there's nothing but docs and practice.  And that is why I believe they
increased the requirements for the Security Specialization.  The MCNS exam
is far too elementary to qualify someone as a security specialist.

Tommy

"Jon Cuthbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams now required for
> the Security specialisation.
>
> I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
> out. But what about the PIX and other exams.
>
> Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
> specialistation compared with the others.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon

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Re: Topology Services in CiscoWorks2000

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Borghese

Do you have "Jump Router Boundaries" enabled?  Also make sure you have the
correct SNMP communities strings installed.  What does CiscoView show?  This
will help in troubleshooting if it is an SNMP problem or not.

Paul Borghese
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Subject: Topology Services in CiscoWorks2000


> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently installed CiscoWorks2000 on a network comprising of Catalyst
4908
> and 3500XL. However the campus manager is displaying all the Cisco devices
in
> the unconnected devices view only and in Resource manager essentials as
> generic SNMP devices . does anyone have any ideas
> Kindly reply to my address.Iis version 3.1 in CW2K and the switch is
running
> ios ver 12.0
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> Regards
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Multicasting

2001-01-07 Thread Pierre-Alex

I would like to experiment switching multicast traffic. My plan right now is
using PowerPoint or Windows Media Encoder
to generate the traffic. Is there an easier / more controlled way to create
multicast streams?

Pierre-Alex

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RADIUS + Cat 2924XL

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Obszynski

Hello cisco,

Is cat 2924XL with ATMuplin support radius ?
In aaa command set directive "radius" apperas and can be set-up
but no radius-server etc directives in command line

This is a bad parser code in (12.0.5) release or just 29..XL doesn;t support
radius auth... and tacacs+ only ?

-- 
Regards,
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ATM Inc.
+48-22-5156418


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slightly OT----- Modem pool

2001-01-07 Thread Babashola Madariola



Hello
A friend  configured three modems for both dial-in and dial-out capabilities.
All three were configured successfully but the NT server sees just the first
modem and nothing more. Does anyone have an idea what could probably be causing
this?

Thanks
Madarson


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Re: IS-IS routing domain to look at

2001-01-07 Thread Andy Walden


Chuck,

Could you post some configs? This should be interesting. Thanks.

andy


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> For those who haven't seen one before, I set up a quick and dirty IS-IS
> domain in my home lab. As I will be busy studying some other things the rest
> of the weekend, folks on the list here are cordially invited to take a peek.
> 
> Telnet to 64.220.150.11  all passwords are cisco
> 
> Feel free to poke around
> 
> Please play nicely.
> 
> 
> Chuck
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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Cthulu

I'll start with the obvious:

SNMP stands for Simple Network Management Protocol, which is a misnomer
because it is not simple excepting for the fact that it has four commands I
know of:  set, get, trap, and the other one I forget.  A better name would
Tree-Like Database-Structure Underlying Management Protocol (TDUMP);  notice
the missing network. SNMP depends on a network to manage its devices;
however, it can manage more than network-centric devices.  It can also
manage computers, servers, printers, coke machines, and pretty much anything
that has a network connection.

Pretty much all those big name network management packages such Openview,
Tivoli, CiscoWorks, JoeSnuff's NetSnuffer, and so on all use SNMP.   Had you
the time, you actually could manipulate and create your own SNMP code to do
your network management.

And just to ensure this thread doesn't die and to stimulate discussion, I am
going to make some erroneous statements next...here goes  (identify the
mistakes here and get a fabu No-prize!!)

(FX: clears throat)

"We should use SNMP on our networks because the TCP traffic it generates
causes a great deal of overhead.   Instead, if we need SNMP informaiton, we
telnet to port 179, and run a get-set command that will dump the SNMP
information to a text file, where we can search for what we need.   SNMP is
not useful because it can only run on routers and switches.   There is also
a security issue as the community strings on Cisco are stored in plaintext,
and can not ever be encrypted.SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco
devices with the RW password of Cisco."

I challenge all to find the mistakes, explain why they are wrong, and give
us the correct info...

There, that should spur some discussion on SNMP... enjoy!!

Charles




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>
> -- Kevin
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> Subject: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
>
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000
Network
> proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be too
attractive
> ! not on the forum at least.
> >
> > Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
> >
> > Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of SNMP
> topics on any of the CCxx exams ?
> >
> > Is there any exams to prove the mettle of SNMP geeks ?
> >
> > -Guru
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread Chuck Larrieu

In terms of the access list parts, I still believe that the Gild Held /
Keith Huntley book Cisco Access List Field Guide is an excellent source.
Hhmmm. can't find it on Amazon. Out of print? Bad news!

Chuck

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Tommy Mitchell
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Subject:Re: CCNP Security

In case you should stumble upon it, avoid the syngress book "Managing Cisco
Network Security."  I don't know what the Cisco Press book will be like, but
it has to be better than this collection of technical mistakes and bad
editing.  The IPSec and CBAC chapters from "Enhanced IP Services for Cisco
Networks" are excellent, so that should give you a start.  Other than that
there's nothing but docs and practice.  And that is why I believe they
increased the requirements for the Security Specialization.  The MCNS exam
is far too elementary to qualify someone as a security specialist.

Tommy

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> Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams now required for
> the Security specialisation.
>
> I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
> out. But what about the PIX and other exams.
>
> Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
> specialistation compared with the others.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon

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Frustrating QoS issue

2001-01-07 Thread John Neiberger

I'm trying to configure CBWFQ on a 7513 with no VIP cards, just older serial
and fast ethernet cards.  I have this exact configuration currently running
one a 2620 with no problem.  Here is the relevant config:

class-map video 
  match access-group name videolist 
!   
!   
policy-map videoconf
  class video   
priority 264
  class class-default   
   fair-queue   
   random-detect
!   
ip access-list extended videolist  
 permit udp any any range 3230 3235
 permit udp host 10.1.105.98 any  
!
interface serial1/1
 service-policy output videoconf

When I attempt to add that last line--applying the policy to the
interface--I get the following error:

service-policy is supported only on VIP interfaces with DCEF
enabled

I can't find anything on CCO that says I have to have a VIP and DCEF running
before I can run CBWFQ on an RSP.  Do any of you have any experience with
this?  We have been fighting with IOS upgrades for weeks just so we could
get CBWFQ.  If I can't make this work, my boss will be seriously ticked to
say the least.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
John





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Re: Ospf process re-initialising

2001-01-07 Thread ccarring

To reallocate a router id, you can 'write mem', go to config mode and do
'no router ospf xx'.
Then 'copy start run'.

Your OSPF process is back, with the correct RID.

It avoids the time cost of a reload.

Hope this helps!

A Mateen wrote:
> 
> Hi ~
> 
> Once I canged the loopback ip add, how do i reset the
> ospf session with my neighbours to make this changes in effect.
> I tried clear ip ospf process  but it is not working.
> 
> Awaiting an early reply

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RE: ISIS routing domain example

2001-01-07 Thread Chuck Larrieu


I am assuming that the trashing of my router was intentional. Someone having
done it by accident would have notified me by e-mail and let me know what
happened.

For everyone else, sorry, but the router is down.

Chuck

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Subject:ISIS routing domain example

For those who haven't seen one before, I set up a quick and dirty IS-IS
domain in my home lab. As I will be busy studying some other things the rest
of the weekend, folks on the list here are cordially invited to take a peek.

Telnet to 64.220.150.11  all passwords are cisco

Feel free to poke around

Please play nicely.

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Re: SNMP

2001-01-07 Thread ccarring

There is a free tool for snmpget, walk, and set formerly called
UCD-SNMP.

It is now called Net-SNMP available here:

http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/



Pierre-Alex wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a free utility that will allow me to experiment querying
> the MIB database of a switch. Is there such a thing?
> 
> Pierre-Alex

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Re: OSPF/ DR & BDR election

2001-01-07 Thread David L. Blair

Check the OSPF election rules.  Once a DR and BDR are selected, if a router
with a higher priority or IP address is added to the network it will not
become the DR.  If the DR is goes offline the BDR becomes the DR and a new
election for a BDR occurs.  Once the DR comes back online, it does not
become the DR or BDR even if  it has the highest IP address.  As Chuck
mentioned this keeps the routers from continually changing who is the DR and
BDR.

-dlb


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> becuase it had the highest IP address. Router B was elected BDR. I ran
debug
> ip ospf adj on Router B and unplugged the Ethernet connection between the
> two. After 40 seconds Router B showed that it promoted itself to DR. Then
I
> plugged the connection back in, and Router A was now selected as the BDR.
> This didn't make sense to me. I know that each time a router is added,
that
> a new DRand BDR election does NOT take place, however shouldn't Router A
> still considered itself as the DR so when the connection was
re-established
> it would either 1. remain as the DR or more likely 2. rerun the election
> since both routers think that they are the DR. I might could understand if
> there were multiple routers on the Ethernet connection. Any elightenment
> would be greatly appreciated. Meanwhile I'll go look at RFC 2328.
>
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RE: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread Kathy Mihalisko

Tommy,

Absolutely the best book on IPSec is by Doraswamy/Harkins:

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?isbn=0130118982&AID=42121&PID=216178

Very helpful in preparing for the Security track. Have added the Books A
Million link because a search of addall.com shows they have the lowest price
on it. The Cisco ACL Field Guide is another winner. Bookpool.com has it as
does Barnes & Noble.

http://www.bookpool.com/.x/k9wrskqsu1/ss/1?qs=0072123354



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Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:40 AM
To: Tommy Mitchell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCNP Security


In terms of the access list parts, I still believe that the Gild Held /
Keith Huntley book Cisco Access List Field Guide is an excellent source.
Hhmmm. can't find it on Amazon. Out of print? Bad news!

Chuck

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Tommy Mitchell
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Subject:Re: CCNP Security

In case you should stumble upon it, avoid the syngress book "Managing Cisco
Network Security."  I don't know what the Cisco Press book will be like, but
it has to be better than this collection of technical mistakes and bad
editing.  The IPSec and CBAC chapters from "Enhanced IP Services for Cisco
Networks" are excellent, so that should give you a start.  Other than that
there's nothing but docs and practice.  And that is why I believe they
increased the requirements for the Security Specialization.  The MCNS exam
is far too elementary to qualify someone as a security specialist.

Tommy

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> the Security specialisation.
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> I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
> out. But what about the PIX and other exams.
>
> Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
> specialistation compared with the others.
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> Thanks
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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Folks,
>
>Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000 
>Network proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be 
>too attractive ! not on the forum at least.
>
>Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
>
>Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of 
>SNMP topics on any of the CCxx exams ?

Pretty much the latter.

SNMP, or more properly the MIB, is much more tightly coupled to Bay 
RS than it is to Cisco IOS.  Were this a Bay list, there presumably 
would be more focus on it.

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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread ccarring

Charles,

See inline for my answers; hope they are enough to keep the discussion
going, without killing the discussion all at once!

Cheers!

Cthulu wrote:
> 
> I'll start with the obvious:
> 
> SNMP stands for Simple Network Management Protocol, which is a misnomer
  
  actually stands for 'simply not my problem' !!!

> because it is not simple excepting for the fact that it has four commands I
> know of:  set, get, trap, and the other one I forget.  A better name would
   ^^
   getnext - makes snmpwalk possible

> Tree-Like Database-Structure Underlying Management Protocol (TDUMP);  notice
> the missing network. SNMP depends on a network to manage its devices;
> however, it can manage more than network-centric devices.  It can also
> manage computers, servers, printers, coke machines, and pretty much anything
> that has a network connection.
> 
> Pretty much all those big name network management packages such Openview,
> Tivoli, CiscoWorks, JoeSnuff's NetSnuffer, and so on all use SNMP.   Had you
> the time, you actually could manipulate and create your own SNMP code to do
> your network management.
> 
> And just to ensure this thread doesn't die and to stimulate discussion, I am
> going to make some erroneous statements next...here goes  (identify the
> mistakes here and get a fabu No-prize!!)
> 
> (FX: clears throat)
> 
> "We should use SNMP on our networks because the TCP traffic it generates

UDP, of course. To get one packet reliably delivered with TCP takes
seven packets on the network. UDP, while not guranteeing delivery, is
WAY faster since it is a single packet without acknowledgement.

> causes a great deal of overhead.   Instead, if we need SNMP informaiton, we
> telnet to port 179, and run a get-set command that will dump the SNMP

Heh. I like this one! 179 is, of course, BGP. You would use port 161,
but not telnet. And you'd want to use getnext to get the objects in
Lexicographical order. 

> information to a text file, where we can search for what we need.   SNMP is
> not useful because it can only run on routers and switches.   There is also
> a security issue as the community strings on Cisco are stored in plaintext,
> and can not ever be encrypted.SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco
> devices with the RW password of Cisco."

As pointed out before, SNMP can be run on any device attached to the
network. But it has to be implemented by the developers of those
devices.

Community strings for v1 and v2c PDUs are communicated in clear text; v3
allows for encryption of community strings. IOS supports SNMPv3 since,
uh, 12-something.

Passwords on Cisco routers are encrypted with the 'service password'
command, I believe.

SNMP is not enabled by default on Cisco devices. A basic config would
include the following:

snmp-server community public RO

Where 'public' is replaced with your read-only community string.

> 
> I challenge all to find the mistakes, explain why they are wrong, and give
> us the correct info...
> 
> There, that should spur some discussion on SNMP... enjoy!!
> 
> Charles
>

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Re: ISIS routing domain example

2001-01-07 Thread ccarring

Chuck,

That's too bad. I hope it was not someone from this list that did it.
Did somebody just hose the config with a wrong command, or was it worse?
Can you recover by copying start to run, or tftp an older config to it?

I hope this does not kill the spirit of sharing here. It's a really nice
thing to be able to see your router, cause most of us never see ISIS
until it's too late.

Reminds me of one of Murphy's laws... "No good deed goes unpunished".



Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> 
> I am assuming that the trashing of my router was intentional. Someone having
> done it by accident would have notified me by e-mail and let me know what
> happened.
> 
> For everyone else, sorry, but the router is down.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Saturday, January 06, 2001 7:38 PM
> To: CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List
> Subject:ISIS routing domain example
> 
> For those who haven't seen one before, I set up a quick and dirty IS-IS
> domain in my home lab. As I will be busy studying some other things the rest
> of the weekend, folks on the list here are cordially invited to take a peek.
> 
> Telnet to 64.220.150.11  all passwords are cisco
> 
> Feel free to poke around
> 
> Please play nicely.
> 
> Chuck

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Re: What is the latest 2924 XL OS ?

2001-01-07 Thread D. J. Jones

Make sure that the complete URL is entered.  Here it is again:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35xw/index.ht
m


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Subject: Re: What is the latest 2924 XL OS ?


Mr Jones,

That URL still does not lead to the " latest OS od 2924".
It leads  to

" Document not found".

Thanks for the english typed.

-Guru



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Re: Pix Firewall License R or UR ?

2001-01-07 Thread Patrick Bass

No.  Your wrong.

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> of
> > license it has (R -UR license)?
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Re: Pix Firewall License R or UR ?

2001-01-07 Thread Nick Brooks

525 and 535 carry the R and UR licensing scheme as well.

ItsMe wrote:

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Re: What is the latest 2924 XL OS ?

2001-01-07 Thread Nick Brooks

this is a fine example of word wrap.  make sure you enter the rest of the url that
wrapped to the next line.

Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> Mr Jones,
>
> That URL still does not lead to the " latest OS od 2924".
> It leads  to
>
> " Document not found".
>
> Thanks for the english typed.
>
> -Guru
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Router Sim Lab question

2001-01-07 Thread TSQR1951

Hi:

Below is router A#.  I have checked all my connections and they are fine.  
Her is my questions.  How come I can Ping a Host fomr Router A, but I cannot 
Telnet to the Host, it give me the error msg:  "[Connection to 172.16.40.2 
closed by foreign host]"

See Below, TIA,  Jess:


A#ping 172.16.40.2

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 172.16.40.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
A#telnet 172.16.40.2
Trying 172.16.40.2 ... Open


Password required, but none set

[Connection to 172.16.40.2 closed by foreign host]
A#

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Re: Router Sim Lab question

2001-01-07 Thread Jason Fletcher

The second router must have a password set on the telnet lines.  Lika so..

enable
configure terminal
line vty 0 4
login
password letmein
exit

Fletch

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>
> Below is router A#.  I have checked all my connections and they are fine.
> Her is my questions.  How come I can Ping a Host fomr Router A, but I
cannot
> Telnet to the Host, it give me the error msg:  "[Connection to 172.16.40.2
> closed by foreign host]"
>
> See Below, TIA,  Jess:
>
>
> A#ping 172.16.40.2
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 172.16.40.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms
> A#telnet 172.16.40.2
> Trying 172.16.40.2 ... Open
>
>
> Password required, but none set
>
> [Connection to 172.16.40.2 closed by foreign host]
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Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin Welch

I understand most of the benefits of frame relay, but I am wondering if =
there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
frame relay appreciated.

-- Kevin

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Re: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread TrentJ

Here is a document that may help answer your question.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/wnso/power/chzsp_wp.htm


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> there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
> secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
> information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
> frame relay appreciated.
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Re: ISIS routing domain example

2001-01-07 Thread Andrew

I have a copy of Chuck's config if anyone wanted to see it.

At 10:54 AM 1/7/01 -0500, ccarring wrote:
>Chuck,
>
>That's too bad. I hope it was not someone from this list that did it.
>Did somebody just hose the config with a wrong command, or was it worse?
>Can you recover by copying start to run, or tftp an older config to it?
>
>I hope this does not kill the spirit of sharing here. It's a really nice
>thing to be able to see your router, cause most of us never see ISIS
>until it's too late.
>
>Reminds me of one of Murphy's laws... "No good deed goes unpunished".
>
>
>
>Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >
> > I am assuming that the trashing of my router was intentional. Someone 
> having
> > done it by accident would have notified me by e-mail and let me know what
> > happened.
> >
> > For everyone else, sorry, but the router is down.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Saturday, January 06, 2001 7:38 PM
> > To: CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List
> > Subject:ISIS routing domain example
> >
> > For those who haven't seen one before, I set up a quick and dirty IS-IS
> > domain in my home lab. As I will be busy studying some other things the 
> rest
> > of the weekend, folks on the list here are cordially invited to take a 
> peek.
> >
> > Telnet to 64.220.150.11  all passwords are cisco
> >
> > Feel free to poke around
> >
> > Please play nicely.
> >
> > Chuck
>
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Re: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Erick B.

Most Frame relay connections go through some
telco/frame provider and some bigger organizations
have their own frame infrastructure. I'm not aware of
any security measures at the frame layer.

As for securing the information, you can encrypt at
layer 3. Most financial software these days has 
encryption in the software of some sort. This is the
best spot to do it. Lets say the router just encrypts
then between the PC and the router the data will be
unsecure (unless application encrypts) and someone can
pick it up with a sniffer. Another example is SSL and
HTTPS which are done at the application level. As with
anything, if it's sensative - protect it at the
source.

--- Kevin Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand most of the benefits of frame relay,
> but I am wondering if =
> there are any security problems assoicated with this
> protocol?  Is it =
> secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial
> or sensitive =
> information?  Any help understanding the security
> risks associated with =
> frame relay appreciated.
> 
> -- Kevin


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Re: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I understand most of the benefits of frame relay, but I am wondering if =
>there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
>secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
>information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
>frame relay appreciated.
>
>-- Kevin

Is a dedicated line secure enough for unencrypted transfer of 
financial or sensitive information?

Answer:  It depends.

People often assume that frame is somehow shared when "dedicated 
lines" are not.   From Chapter 5 of my _WAN Survival Guide_,

>All too many users have an intuitive belief that if they were to 
>pull on the London end of a London to New York circuit, wires would 
>wiggle in Manhattan. The reality, of course, is that any network of 
>complexity beyond a very simple LAN involves one or more layers of 
>virtualization onto real media. At the OSI lower layers, 
>virtualization usually involves multiplexing, but various name and 
>address mapping functions provide virtual structure as one moves up 
>the protocol stack.

Typically, frame PVCs and T1's run over exactly the same media from 
the customer site to the telco end office.  Once at the end office, 
they are multiplexed.  T1 is far too slow for economical data 
transmission between modern telco offices.  Both the T1 and the frame 
circuits typically will be multiplexed onto facilities at least at 
DS-3, and usually OC-12 to OC-192. So much beyond the local loop, 
there really isn't much difference between frame and dedicated.

Interpretations in the US HIPAA legislation for medical data tend to 
allow unencrypted traffic to flow over dedicated and frame, but not 
the public Internet.  The Federal Reserve, however, tends to want 
end-to-end encryption regardless of the media, historically single 
DES.  Military traffic would be bulk encrypted and possibly 
end-to-end encrypted as well.

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RE: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Kathy Miihalisko

Kevin:

No matter the solution, if it's not encrypted it's not secure. In your
situation you might also consider certificate-based router authentication.

Kathy "Katyusha" M.

-Original Message-
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Kevin Welch
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay Security


I understand most of the benefits of frame relay, but I am wondering if =
there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
frame relay appreciated.

-- Kevin

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Re: How to check IDB?

2001-01-07 Thread Mike Fountain

I think it is also dependant on the router as well as the IOS version.  =
IIRC a 7200 running 12.0 will support 3000 IDB

Probably the best way to find out is to ask a Cisco SE.  They have =
access to web pages and information that isn't posted on the public =
site.  That is how we found the limit for the 7200's.




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> Thanks Chris.
>=20
> Your information is very useful.
>=20
> Another question is, how can I know the IDB number for each IOS =
version? Any
> place I can find such info?
>=20
> Many thanks to you.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "Chris McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > There's an undocumented command for showing the IDBs:
> >
> > [---Snip from Phrack 56---]
> >
> > @sh idb
> >
> > This command shows the hardware and software interface
> > databases.
> > this is cisco's way of keeping track of how many
> > interfaces are present
> > on the system.. includes hardware and software
> > interfaces (physical,
> > subinterfaces etc).  there is a software limit of 1024
> > i believe in
> > ios 11 and 2048 in ios 12.  this is a global limit for
> > the router.
> >
> > output:
> >
> > ctalkb#sh idb
> >
> > 19 SW IDBs allocated (2296 bytes each)
> >
> > 9 HW IDBs allocated (4008 bytes each)
> > HWIDB#1   1   FastEthernet0/0 (Ether)
> > HWIDB#2   2   Serial2/0:0 (Serial)
> > HWIDB#3   3   Ethernet3/0 (Ether)
> > HWIDB#4   4   Ethernet3/1 (Ether)
> > HWIDB#5   5   Ethernet3/2 (Ether)
> > HWIDB#6   6   Ethernet3/3 (Ether)
> > HWIDB#7   7   Serial4/0 (Serial)
> > HWIDB#8   8   Serial5/0 (Serial)
> > HWIDB#9   9   Loopback0
> >
> > Have fun...
> >
> > Chris M.
> >
> > --- Katson PN Yeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > When reading Caslow's book, there is a term called
> > > IDB (Interface Descriptor
> > > Block). It specifies the max number of interface the
> > > router can have.
> > >
> > > Anyone knows which IOS command can check the IDB
> > > number of a router?
> > >
> > > Thanks.


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Help for VOIP!

2001-01-07 Thread Gene Park

Hi, members,

I have one question about VOIP.
Actually, I have two 3600s with three exact modules-
Voice card(NM-1V), ATM (1A-OC3MM), and FastEthernet,
but no serial ports. The NM-1V has two FXS. 

Based on these, how do I set up for VOIP lab?
I have several 2503, 2513, and 2514. 
Because I don't have serial ports on 3600s, do I
need to use FastEthernet ports or use ATM interface?
Please let me have cabling info too.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: fore

2001-01-07 Thread Shawn Goodson

Donald,
You can use this link to get to the Marconi web site. Create a public account
for yourself and you should have access to all of the product manuals.

http://tactics.marconi.com/


Donald B Johnson Jr wrote:

> Has anyone configured a forerunner ASX-200BX if so could you point me in =
> the direction of some documentation.
> Thanks=20
> Duck
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help for VOIP!

2001-01-07 Thread Gene Park

Hi, members,

I have one question about VOIP.
Actually, I have two 3600s with three exact 
modules-
Voice card(NM-1V), ATM (1A-OC3MM), and 
FastEthernet,
but no serial ports. The NM-1V has two FXS.

Based on these, how do I set up for VOIP lab?
I have several 2503, 2513, and 2514.
Because I don't have serial ports on 3600s, do I
need to use FastEthernet ports or use ATM 
interface?
Please let me have cabling info too.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: SNMP

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

GetIF I tend to use for small things in a rush as a trouble discovery tool.  I find it 
excellent.  It allows you to get into devices you have little details on.

gxsnmp is another "free" management tool.  This is far more complicated but allows you 
to do stuff more in the lines of HP Openview or Cabletrons Spectrum.

MG-Soft also have some excellent products that make it easier to generate the sort of 
MIB trees you might want to design for particular applications.

As more discussion on SNMP seems to be requested here are some little findings I have 
made over the years.

Of all the SNMP managers I found Spectrum whilst the most cost expensive in the 
intitial stages I found it was easier to use and provided better models than any of 
the other products I tried.

I found the secret to any management was understand what it is you want to manage,  
what you were going to do with the data, how you were going to lay out the model and 
to whom the reports would be sent.  Without these things you could waste hours 
producing useless pictures, graphs and stats.  You would feel good and nobody else 
could care less.

Just some thoughts

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 07:44:19 PM, David C Prall wrote:

> Use Getif on a Windows Environment to browse the MIB's.
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hills/8260/
> 
> It's free and works wonderfully for walking the tree.
> 
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> Subject: SNMP
> 
> 
> > I am looking for a free utility that will allow me to experiment querying
> > the MIB database of a switch. Is there such a thing?
> >
> > Pierre-Alex
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Re: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Once the data gets from your physical link into the Telco end it is usually 
re-multiplexed into other physical links to go onto the next site.  This may go on for 
a number of times depending on where the logical link goes.  For example, a trace 
route may indicate 6 hops to a site to get to the site may require going through 20 
physical links.  You message get remixed (multiplexed) on each physical link.

That has been my understanding.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia



On Sunday, January 07, 2001 at 01:37:09 PM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

> >I understand most of the benefits of frame relay, but I am wondering if =
> >there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
> >secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
> >information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
> >frame relay appreciated.
> >
> >-- Kevin
> 
> Is a dedicated line secure enough for unencrypted transfer of 
> financial or sensitive information?
> 
> Answer:  It depends.
> 
> People often assume that frame is somehow shared when "dedicated 
> lines" are not.   From Chapter 5 of my _WAN Survival Guide_,
> 
> >All too many users have an intuitive belief that if they were to 
> >pull on the London end of a London to New York circuit, wires would 
> >wiggle in Manhattan. The reality, of course, is that any network of 
> >complexity beyond a very simple LAN involves one or more layers of 
> >virtualization onto real media. At the OSI lower layers, 
> >virtualization usually involves multiplexing, but various name and 
> >address mapping functions provide virtual structure as one moves up 
> >the protocol stack.
> 
> Typically, frame PVCs and T1's run over exactly the same media from 
> the customer site to the telco end office.  Once at the end office, 
> they are multiplexed.  T1 is far too slow for economical data 
> transmission between modern telco offices.  Both the T1 and the frame 
> circuits typically will be multiplexed onto facilities at least at 
> DS-3, and usually OC-12 to OC-192. So much beyond the local loop, 
> there really isn't much difference between frame and dedicated.
> 
> Interpretations in the US HIPAA legislation for medical data tend to 
> allow unencrypted traffic to flow over dedicated and frame, but not 
> the public Internet.  The Federal Reserve, however, tends to want 
> end-to-end encryption regardless of the media, historically single 
> DES.  Military traffic would be bulk encrypted and possibly 
> end-to-end encrypted as well.
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RE: Weekend funnies

2001-01-07 Thread William E. Gragido

LOL, I usually don't advocate non-technical discussions on this board(I
think I need to lighten up), but this is TOO funny!

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Subject: Weekend funnies


Some years ago, the Sultan of Brunei was becoming angry as he had 6
children, all girls, and therefore had no son and heir.

Imagine his joy when one of his wives finally presented him with his
only son and heir.

 Just before his son's sixth birthday, the Sultan took him to one side
and said, "Son, I am very proud of you. Anything you want, I shall get
for you." His son replied,
"Daddy, I would like to have my own airplane." Not wanting to do
anything halfway, his father bought him American Airlines.

 Just before his son's seventh birthday, the Sultan took him to one
side.

 "Son, you are my pride and joy. Anything you want, I shall get for
you."
 His son replied, "Daddy, I would like a boat.
" Not wanting to do anything halfway, his father bought him The Princess
Cruise Lines.
Just before his son's eighth birthday, the Sultan took him to one side.

"Son, you bring so much happiness into my life. Anything you want, I
shall  get for you."
His son replied, "Daddy, I would like to be able to watch cartoons." Not
 wanting to do anything halfway, his father bought him Disney Studios
and
 their theaters, where he watched all his favorite cartoons.

 Just before his son's ninth birthday, the Sultan took him to one side,
"Son,  you are an inspiration to us all.

Anything you want, I shall get it for you." His son, who had really
gotten into the Disney cartoons, replied, "Daddy, I would like a Mickey
Mouse outfit."

Not wanting to do anything halfway, his father went and bought him
Microsoft.
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RE: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread William E. Gragido

Thats out of print?  Too bad, Kent Hundley and Gil Held are favorites of
mine as well.  Their IOS IP Field Guide is also a handy little book to have
around.

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In terms of the access list parts, I still believe that the Gild Held /
Keith Huntley book Cisco Access List Field Guide is an excellent source.
Hhmmm. can't find it on Amazon. Out of print? Bad news!

Chuck

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In case you should stumble upon it, avoid the syngress book "Managing Cisco
Network Security."  I don't know what the Cisco Press book will be like, but
it has to be better than this collection of technical mistakes and bad
editing.  The IPSec and CBAC chapters from "Enhanced IP Services for Cisco
Networks" are excellent, so that should give you a start.  Other than that
there's nothing but docs and practice.  And that is why I believe they
increased the requirements for the Security Specialization.  The MCNS exam
is far too elementary to qualify someone as a security specialist.

Tommy

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> Does anyone know of any good books for the 4 exams now required for
> the Security specialisation.
>
> I know the Managing Cisco Network Security book by Cisco Press is due
> out. But what about the PIX and other exams.
>
> Also I wonder why they've suddenly increased the exams for this
> specialistation compared with the others.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon

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Re: ISDN (i still "really" dont KNow)

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

A coup[le of days ago I put out a thing on valid hostnames.  I indicated on this there 
can be issues with invalid names.  I think you will find the Cisco doco says 
AlphjaNumeric and the first character should be Alpha.

In the past I have run into this problem it turned out to be the "-" in the hostname.  
The Chap authentication happens at login but the recheck on hostname on the "B" 
channel data fails.  User is logged in fine but no comms will take place.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 12:30:27 PM, Craig Columbus wrote:

> 
> >Ran into a case of this recently.  Everything authenticated OK, but no IP 
> >traffic would pass over some of the BRI interfaces.  Resolution was to add 
> >the word broadcast to the dialer map statements.  I've never had to do 
> >this before, so I assume that it's a bug in the version of IOS that the 
> >clients were usingsorry, it escapes me what the IOS was...may have 
> >been 12.0(8).  We ended up changing to 12.0.(7)T since it seems to be solid.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> > >  Dear all,
> > >
> > >  i am setting up an end-to-end isnd connection between two routers using
> >CHAP
> > >  athuentication.i seem to make a connection but cant ping even the local
> >side
> > >  the show ip route shows it as directly connected interface,when i do show
> > >  int bri 0 i see (spoofing)what actually does it mean and how to get rid
> >of
> > >  it ??i have checked the configurations and searched on net a lot
> > >  configuration seems alright.if possible can someone send me a practical
> > >  working config (offcourse ips and passwords omitted).??
> > >
> > >  i realy would appreciate it.following is a general skecth just for
> >refernce.
> > >
> > >
> > >  following is the configuration
> > >
> > >  Router 1:
> > >
> > >  hostname 3600-1
> > >  username 2600-1 password google
> > >
> > >  int bri 0
> > >  ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  dialer map ip 10.10.10.2  name 2600-1
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  -
> > >
> > >  Router 2:
> > >
> > >  hostname 2600-1 password google
> > >
> > >  int bri 0
> > >  ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  dialer map ip 10.10.10.1 name 3600-1 1267126
> > >  ppp authentication chap
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RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 10:37 PM 1/6/01, John Nemeth wrote:
>On May 29,  5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote:
>}
>} OK.  I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do
>} something like this and then expect the world to revolve around
>
>  Actually, as Howard mentioned, neither of these companies
>initiated the protocol

It can be argued that Apple initiated the particular protocol that we have 
been discussing, that is, the Microsoft Automatic Private IP Addressing 
method. The client sends a gratuitous ARP 10 times broadcasting the 
network-layer address that it wants to use. If the address is in use, the 
client selects another address. The creators of AppleTalk, including 
Gursharan Sidhu, Ron Hochsprung, and Alan Oppenheimer own a patent that 
reads essentially just like that.

The patent is from 1984. At that time IP networks were managed by computer 
scientists. Apple had the brilliant idea that ordinary people could set up 
and manage networks. I think we should give credit where credit is due. As 
Chuck mentioned, in the 1990s Microsoft also tried to make file and print 
sharing easy, but the majority of the credit should go to Apple.

Apple could have imposed the dynamic network-layer addressing patent on the 
industry but perhaps it was too specific. (It has a bunch of LocalTalk 
specifics in it.) Also, they probably let it go because they recognize the 
value of furthering the ease of use of IP networks. People who will be 
connecting their home appliances together don't want to understand IP 
addressing, subnet masks, etc.! And how about ad hoc networks in training 
classes, on long plane rides, in hotel lobbies, on the beach, etc. &;-)

John makes some other very good points below. I don't want to detract from 
them, but I just had to make the point again about AppleTalk. It's unfair 
to not do so.

Priscilla


>} them.  However, I'm confused as to the benefit.  Why would anyone want a
>} non-assigned default IP address to appear on their network?  Do they really
>} think that people will implement a non-RFC1918 compliant address space just
>} to save configuration time?  (Actually, I can think of several cases where
>
>  It does save configuration time, since this is for cases where no
>configuration at all happens, most likely due to the lack of a real
>administrator.
>
>} How do Internet backbone routers (BGP ASs) deal with this traffic?
>
>  They don't.  There is a reason why this address range is called
>"link local".  It's only useful within a single network segment that
>isn't connected to any other networks.
>
>} Let's say that I want to take the easy way out and I connect a small
>} network to the Internet via an ISP.  I'm not running NAT, but I'm running
>} the 169.254 addresses inside my network. If I've got a static route to an
>
>  Then, you're SOL.  To connect to the Internet, some kind of
>configuration must happen (even, if it is just a box running NAT on the
>outside interface and a DHCP server on the inside interface).
>
>} ISP public address, and we're not exchanging routing information, I can't
>} see how this traffic would ever get back to my network.  If I'm exchanging
>
>  It wouldn't.
>
>} routes with an ISP (via BGP or some other interior protocol), where and how
>} do the 169.254 routes get filtered?  There has to be some mechanism, or
>
>  It should be filtered at the network ingress point.
>
>} there would be thousands of summary routes back to 169.254 showing up on
>} the Internet table.
>
>  169.254 should never ever show up on the Internet, although I
>wouldn't be surprised if it did.  I've seen some pretty large ISP's put
>RFC-1918 addresses on the global Internet, which is also a no-no.
>
>} Any help in understanding this is appreciated.
>
>  The purpose of this is to setup small impromptu isolated networks
>which often don't have an administrator with no configuration at all
>required.




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RE: CCNP Security

2001-01-07 Thread John Nemeth

On May 30,  1:15am, "Chuck Larrieu" wrote:
}
} In terms of the access list parts, I still believe that the Gild Held /
} Keith Huntley book Cisco Access List Field Guide is an excellent source.
} Hhmmm. can't find it on Amazon. Out of print? Bad news!

 Really?!?  I found it pretty much instantly and I was using Lynx,
a text only browser.  Anyways, here's the URL (watch the wrap):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072123354/sr=1-1/ref=sc_b_1/103-3059403-1667860

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ATQ0H0

2001-01-07 Thread Jon O'Nan

I've been working with an older Catalyst 1900 switch (firmware ver 5.37) We
can't get any management console output. We are able to bring up the
diagnostic console by holding in the mode button on the front of the switch
while turning on the power. After upgrading the firmware via xmodem, the
switch will POST and then leave us with a blsnk screen except for modem
strings ATQ0H0. Anyone ever experienced the same issue?


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eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN

2001-01-07 Thread ajwhitaker

So here's the scenario...Numerous routers in a central site connected to
other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN.  Question: What is the
best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario?  My thoughts were to run EIGRP
over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface,
and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative
distance for ISDN backup)

Thoughs, comments, suggestions, ridicules? ;-)

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Re: tacacs-server last-resort command and Cat2900XL (IOS12.0(5.2)XU)

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

This is the relevant stuff we have in a working TACACS Config.  All this works a 
treat.  Bits of the config are missing for obvious reasons.



! CONFIG STUFF
!
!  SERVICE STUFF
!
aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default tacacs+ enable
aaa authentication enable default none
aaa accounting exec start-stop tacacs+
aaa accounting commands 1 start-stop tacacs+
aaa accounting commands 15 start-stop tacacs+
aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+
aaa accounting connection start-stop tacacs+
aaa accounting system start-stop tacacs+
!
! PASSWORD STUFF
!
! "INTERFACE STUFF"
!  .
!
ip default-gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
!
!   "SNMP Stuff"
!
tacacs-server host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
tacacs-server host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
tacacs-server key theKeytosuccess
!
! NTP STUFF...
!
!line con 0
 password 7 andfunnynumber (inHex)
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 password 7 evenphunniernumber
line vty 5 15
 password 7 thisnumberhexesall



Hope this helps.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 11:19:11 AM, Piatnitchi Cristian wrote:

> Hi all 
> 
> I am playing in the lab with a Cat2900XL (IOS12.05.2) XU) 24 ports.
> I am a little confused with IOSs and command lists from Cisco site. Cisco
> web site says that 
> Catalyst 2900 and 3500 XL have the same IOS. So I read this page to see the
> complete list of command. 
> It is strange that the page show me the command 
> 
> tacacs-server last-resort 
> 
> here :
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35xu/cmdref/m
> acrcli.htm#xtocid24729124 
> 
> 
> but the Cat2900 seems to do not know about the command. Any explanation for
> that ?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Cristian
> 
> Ps. I would like to know the way to find the complete set of commands for a
> specific device on Cisco site.
> Could anybody help me ?
> Thanks again
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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Good show Kevin and Charles.Did you notice some one having said "  SNMP would be more 
focusssed by the Bay Network folks.

Kevin- Good start !

If you read the SNMP related RFC , note the statement - SNMP RFC's  are  still a 
controversial subject. There has been no standardisation yet.

-Guru



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Subject: Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??


I'll start with the obvious:

SNMP stands for Simple Network Management Protocol, which is a misnomer
because it is not simple excepting for the fact that it has four commands I
know of:  set, get, trap, and the other one I forget.  A better name would
Tree-Like Database-Structure Underlying Management Protocol (TDUMP);  notice
the missing network. SNMP depends on a network to manage its devices;
however, it can manage more than network-centric devices.  It can also
manage computers, servers, printers, coke machines, and pretty much anything
that has a network connection.

Pretty much all those big name network management packages such Openview,
Tivoli, CiscoWorks, JoeSnuff's NetSnuffer, and so on all use SNMP.   Had you
the time, you actually could manipulate and create your own SNMP code to do
your network management.

And just to ensure this thread doesn't die and to stimulate discussion, I am
going to make some erroneous statements next...here goes  (identify the
mistakes here and get a fabu No-prize!!)

(FX: clears throat)

"We should use SNMP on our networks because the TCP traffic it generates
causes a great deal of overhead.   Instead, if we need SNMP informaiton, we
telnet to port 179, and run a get-set command that will dump the SNMP
information to a text file, where we can search for what we need.   SNMP is
not useful because it can only run on routers and switches.   There is also
a security issue as the community strings on Cisco are stored in plaintext,
and can not ever be encrypted.SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco
devices with the RW password of Cisco."

I challenge all to find the mistakes, explain why they are wrong, and give
us the correct info...

There, that should spur some discussion on SNMP... enjoy!!

Charles




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>
> -- Kevin
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> Subject: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
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> > Folks,
> >
> > Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000
Network
> proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be too
attractive
> ! not on the forum at least.
> >
> > Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
> >
> > Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of SNMP
> topics on any of the CCxx exams ?
> >
> > Is there any exams to prove the mettle of SNMP geeks ?
> >
> > -Guru
> >
> >
> >
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Re: SNMP

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Quiggle

Teunis,

I just found GetIF this weekend and think it is definitely an excellent 
tool for troubleshooting.  Small, light-weight and very easily 
understood.  I really like being able to do traceroutes between two devices 
without having to telnet to either device.

Other cool things:

-Graph values in real time (like mapping real time packets going into an 
interface
-Check routing tables
-Look at the ARP table

When it comes to Cisco routers it is frequently easier to telnet to the 
device and use the corresponding Cisco command.  But when I have to deal 
with Bay routers it is very difficult for me because I haven't mastered the 
Bay command line.  GetIF puts everything in simple easy to understand 
format.  I can see this tool is going to slow down my efforts for learning 
Bay commandsnot sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing...

The only thing I don't like about it, is that you can't make the window 
bigger.  You can only see about 8 - 12 lines on any single tab.  However, 
if that's my only complaint..I'd say its pretty good.  :-)

Later,
AQ


At 04:27 PM 1/7/01, Tony van Ree wrote:
>Hi,
>
>GetIF I tend to use for small things in a rush as a trouble discovery 
>tool.  I find it excellent.  It allows you to get into devices you have 
>little details on.
>
>gxsnmp is another "free" management tool.  This is far more complicated 
>but allows you to do stuff more in the lines of HP Openview or Cabletrons 
>Spectrum.
>
>MG-Soft also have some excellent products that make it easier to generate 
>the sort of MIB trees you might want to design for particular applications.
>
>As more discussion on SNMP seems to be requested here are some little 
>findings I have made over the years.
>
>Of all the SNMP managers I found Spectrum whilst the most cost expensive 
>in the intitial stages I found it was easier to use and provided better 
>models than any of the other products I tried.
>
>I found the secret to any management was understand what it is you want to 
>manage,  what you were going to do with the data, how you were going to 
>lay out the model and to whom the reports would be sent.  Without these 
>things you could waste hours producing useless pictures, graphs and 
>stats.  You would feel good and nobody else could care less.
>
>Just some thoughts
>
>Teunis
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Australia
>
>On Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 07:44:19 PM, David C Prall wrote:
>
> > Use Getif on a Windows Environment to browse the MIB's.
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hills/8260/
> >
> > It's free and works wonderfully for walking the tree.
> >
> > David C Prall   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://dcp.dcptech.com
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> >
> > > I am looking for a free utility that will allow me to experiment querying
> > > the MIB database of a switch. Is there such a thing?
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RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread William E. Gragido

Agreed.  Apple has never truly received the credit that they deserve for
most of their offerings.  Simplicity and functionality are attributes that
help make Apple who they are, and their innovative spirit did spark
inspiration in the PC world.

-Original Message-
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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 4:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A question regarding private addressing


At 10:37 PM 1/6/01, John Nemeth wrote:
>On May 29,  5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote:
>}
>} OK.  I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do
>} something like this and then expect the world to revolve around
>
>  Actually, as Howard mentioned, neither of these companies
>initiated the protocol

It can be argued that Apple initiated the particular protocol that we have
been discussing, that is, the Microsoft Automatic Private IP Addressing
method. The client sends a gratuitous ARP 10 times broadcasting the
network-layer address that it wants to use. If the address is in use, the
client selects another address. The creators of AppleTalk, including
Gursharan Sidhu, Ron Hochsprung, and Alan Oppenheimer own a patent that
reads essentially just like that.

The patent is from 1984. At that time IP networks were managed by computer
scientists. Apple had the brilliant idea that ordinary people could set up
and manage networks. I think we should give credit where credit is due. As
Chuck mentioned, in the 1990s Microsoft also tried to make file and print
sharing easy, but the majority of the credit should go to Apple.

Apple could have imposed the dynamic network-layer addressing patent on the
industry but perhaps it was too specific. (It has a bunch of LocalTalk
specifics in it.) Also, they probably let it go because they recognize the
value of furthering the ease of use of IP networks. People who will be
connecting their home appliances together don't want to understand IP
addressing, subnet masks, etc.! And how about ad hoc networks in training
classes, on long plane rides, in hotel lobbies, on the beach, etc. &;-)

John makes some other very good points below. I don't want to detract from
them, but I just had to make the point again about AppleTalk. It's unfair
to not do so.

Priscilla


>} them.  However, I'm confused as to the benefit.  Why would anyone want a
>} non-assigned default IP address to appear on their network?  Do they
really
>} think that people will implement a non-RFC1918 compliant address space
just
>} to save configuration time?  (Actually, I can think of several cases
where
>
>  It does save configuration time, since this is for cases where no
>configuration at all happens, most likely due to the lack of a real
>administrator.
>
>} How do Internet backbone routers (BGP ASs) deal with this traffic?
>
>  They don't.  There is a reason why this address range is called
>"link local".  It's only useful within a single network segment that
>isn't connected to any other networks.
>
>} Let's say that I want to take the easy way out and I connect a small
>} network to the Internet via an ISP.  I'm not running NAT, but I'm running
>} the 169.254 addresses inside my network. If I've got a static route to an
>
>  Then, you're SOL.  To connect to the Internet, some kind of
>configuration must happen (even, if it is just a box running NAT on the
>outside interface and a DHCP server on the inside interface).
>
>} ISP public address, and we're not exchanging routing information, I can't
>} see how this traffic would ever get back to my network.  If I'm
exchanging
>
>  It wouldn't.
>
>} routes with an ISP (via BGP or some other interior protocol), where and
how
>} do the 169.254 routes get filtered?  There has to be some mechanism, or
>
>  It should be filtered at the network ingress point.
>
>} there would be thousands of summary routes back to 169.254 showing up on
>} the Internet table.
>
>  169.254 should never ever show up on the Internet, although I
>wouldn't be surprised if it did.  I've seen some pretty large ISP's put
>RFC-1918 addresses on the global Internet, which is also a no-no.
>
>} Any help in understanding this is appreciated.
>
>  The purpose of this is to setup small impromptu isolated networks
>which often don't have an administrator with no configuration at all
>required.




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DHCP & Multi VLAN's

2001-01-07 Thread Robert Cabeca

Hi guys,

I have been trying to locate info on how to utilize one DHCP server for
multiple VLAN's on campus. So far I have come across utilizing a multi-vlan
port configuration and IP helper addresses, but I am using 3524's and 6506
w/MSFC. If you have had any experience with this, I would appreciate hearing
from you.

Thanks
Robert

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Re: ISDN (i still "really" dont KNow)

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I trust this is not the complete bri set-up.

As well as the Username/Hostname validity I would also suggest a dialer-group 
dialer-list combination might also do some good.

Just a thought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 07:10:41 PM, ahmad wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> i am setting up an end-to-end isnd connection between two routers using CHAP
> athuentication.i seem to make a connection but cant ping even the local side
> the show ip route shows it as directly connected interface,when i do show
> int bri 0 i see (spoofing)what actually does it mean and how to get rid of
> it ??i have checked the configurations and searched on net a lot
> configuration seems alright.if possible can someone send me a practical
> working config (offcourse ips and passwords omitted).??
> 
> i realy would appreciate it.following is a general skecth just for refernce.
> 
> 
> following is the configuration
> 
> Router 1:
> 
> hostname 3600-1
> username 2600-1 password google
> 
> int bri 0
> ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.10.10.2  name 2600-1
> ppp authentication chap
> -
> 
> Router 2:
> 
> hostname 2600-1 password google
> 
> int bri 0
> ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.10.10.1 name 3600-1 1267126
> ppp authentication chap
> 
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Re: eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN

2001-01-07 Thread ItsMe

"backup" also works very nicely in this senario also, with the dialer
interfaces.

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> So here's the scenario...Numerous routers in a central site connected to
> other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN.  Question: What is
the
> best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario?  My thoughts were to run
EIGRP
> over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface,
> and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative
> distance for ISDN backup)
>
> Thoughs, comments, suggestions, ridicules? ;-)
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Re: eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN

2001-01-07 Thread Sandy Turnage

While I haven't set this scenario up in production, I have played with a simlar
configuration in my home lab using async dial backup. I configured the async interface
with a dialer watch-group and (of course) a matching dialer watch-list for the desired
subnet. (The dialer-watch monitors the routing table for the specified route(s) and
kicks off the dialer if this route disappears (i.e. the primary connection fails)). To
keep the EIGRP hello's from  keeping my link up I used the a dialer-list commands which
referenced an extended access-list similar to the following:

int async 1
dialer-group 1

dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 100

access-list 100 deny eigrp any any
access-list 100 permit ip any any

Remember the dialer-list specifies interesting traffic and *not* what traffic is
actually allowed to cross the link. Once the dialer watch-group brings up the link the
EIGRP hellos will be allowed and the routers should establish neighbor relationships.
One thing to remember is that your dialer map statement should reference the subnet 
that
you are watching.  There is also a "dialer watch-disable" that lets you specifiy how 
the
primary link must be up before the dial-backup connection is dropped. You may want to
search the archives for the CCIELAB mailing list .. there is some excellent information
relating to EIGRP and ISDN there.

Hope this helps,
Sandy Turnage


whitaker wrote:

> So here's the scenario...Numerous routers in a central site connected to
> other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN.  Question: What is the
> best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario?  My thoughts were to run EIGRP
> over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface,
> and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative
> distance for ISDN backup)
>
> Thoughs, comments, suggestions, ridicules? ;-)
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Re: Pix Firewall License R or UR ?

2001-01-07 Thread ItsMe

Cool, should of known, money to be made..IOS got to upgrade!
Thanks

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RE: DHCP & Multi VLAN's

2001-01-07 Thread Brant Stevens

On the VLAN interfaces that are used for the end-users, you will want to
implement the ip-helper command to forward the DHCP/BOOTP packets to the
DHCP server.  That would be a better configuration than using a multi-port
VLAN approach, IMHO.

The interface config below shows the IP address of the DHCP server...

interface Vlan101
 ip address 10.10.101.3 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 10.10.5.36
 no ip redirects
 ip directed-broadcast
 standby 101 priority 108 preempt
 standby 101 ip 10.10.101.1

The global config parameters below prevent to forwarding of the following
broadcast traffic that would otherwise be forwarded with the use of the
ip-helper command.

no ip forward-protocol udp tftp
no ip forward-protocol udp netbios-ns
no ip forward-protocol udp netbios-dgm
no ip forward-protocol udp tacacs

Hope this helps.

-Brant.

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To: groupstudy
Subject: DHCP & Multi VLAN's


Hi guys,

I have been trying to locate info on how to utilize one DHCP server for
multiple VLAN's on campus. So far I have come across utilizing a multi-vlan
port configuration and IP helper addresses, but I am using 3524's and 6506
w/MSFC. If you have had any experience with this, I would appreciate hearing
from you.

Thanks
Robert

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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #926

2001-01-07 Thread Daniel Keller

I just wanted to apologize to everyone for my countless email auto-reply bombs.  You 
will all be happy to know that I am indeed back from my vacation and I promise to 
never again do this to you.  I hope you can all find it in your hearts to forgive my 
retardedness.

Sorry again,

Dan Keller

CCNP, CCDP, CCIE# 6489

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Simple modem connections

2001-01-07 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi all,

Here I am sitting a work thinking just how simple it is to look after dial-up services.

I have a person that calls into a router, connects, authenticates all seems fine.  
When I ping him I lose pings between the access router and the client.  He connects a 
48K I have had him remove compression and error correction from the modem this stops 
him dropping.  

OK. the fault seems to be on the line at his end I have some 200+ other dialups into 
the access router with no worries.  I have the line checked out the tests come up 
fine.  What's more the same person can dial into another service using the same 
equipment at his end but different equipment at the service provider end and all is 
fine I am assured.

My next thing is to move the service to another access router only to find the problem 
is still there.

He is the only one having trouble yet we seem to be the onlyones having trouble with 
him.

EASY ISN'T IT.  If it wasn't for little things like this I'd be unemployable.

Teunis
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Scores on Boson's and Colts - BCMSN

2001-01-07 Thread Jennifer Mellone

For folks who did Boson and Colts and passed BCMSN:

How well do the scores on the Boson's and Colts predict success on the real
BCMSN?

For example, I took Boson BCMSN Test #2 quiz A, B, and C and got 77, 75, and
69 (I don't like that trend!).
Then I took Colt "BCMSN post assessment" and got 48/63 (passing score
47-ouch!).

With scores like that, do you think I'd pass by a comfortable margin, or
maybe just barely pass, or maybe not pass at all?

- Jennifer Mellone

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ISDN Simulator

2001-01-07 Thread Cthulu

Hi,  all

I know this has been discussed, and after spending my free time this weekend
searching high and low for a reasonably priced ISDN simulator, I am forced
to conclude there is no such beast.   EBAY is a bust thus far,  and the best
price I have found is for a Teltone (www.teltone.com) ISDN simulator at
http://www.bigdcom.com/teleline.html.  Big D is a Groupstudy recommended
site;  they sell the ISDN simulator about 1600 bucks, give or take some
change.

Now to the crux of my dilemma:  do I or don't I?  That is, ask my Mistress
for this for Christmas, Halloween, and so forth.  She is standing here
reading this, so I appreciate how wonderful she is! So beautiful with great
taste in men!   Also, very heroic:  she kept me from drinking a coffee
flavored Slim Fast (we were out of beer).

Before I approach the checkbook with hat in hand, is this best price?  I
mean, really?  Has anyone else had better luck?  I hate the thought of
spending 1600 bucks on a 100 bucks worth of wiring and chips.  Perhaps is it
time for Groupstudy to form a buyer's union, where we can pool our money and
buy in bulk at almost wholesale prices.  Good idea?  Bad idea?  Too much
headache potential?

Luckily for me, Big D is in the Dallas area so I plan on there in person and
talking to them about these simulators and their prices.  If interested, I
will let the group know what happens.  If not, I'll keep mum.

Flames, comments all welcome!

Charles





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Re: ISDN Simulator

2001-01-07 Thread Andy Walden


Depending upon your location maybe you could order a couple of ISDN
lines. Where I'm at, for residental, they are $40 flat rate monthly. You
could have them installed for nearly two years before they approached the
cost of the simulator. 

andy

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Cthulu wrote:

> Hi,  all
> 
> I know this has been discussed, and after spending my free time this weekend
> searching high and low for a reasonably priced ISDN simulator, I am forced
> to conclude there is no such beast.   EBAY is a bust thus far,  and the best
> price I have found is for a Teltone (www.teltone.com) ISDN simulator at
> http://www.bigdcom.com/teleline.html.  Big D is a Groupstudy recommended
> site;  they sell the ISDN simulator about 1600 bucks, give or take some
> change.
> 
> Now to the crux of my dilemma:  do I or don't I?  That is, ask my Mistress
> for this for Christmas, Halloween, and so forth.  She is standing here
> reading this, so I appreciate how wonderful she is! So beautiful with great
> taste in men!   Also, very heroic:  she kept me from drinking a coffee
> flavored Slim Fast (we were out of beer).
> 
> Before I approach the checkbook with hat in hand, is this best price?  I
> mean, really?  Has anyone else had better luck?  I hate the thought of
> spending 1600 bucks on a 100 bucks worth of wiring and chips.  Perhaps is it
> time for Groupstudy to form a buyer's union, where we can pool our money and
> buy in bulk at almost wholesale prices.  Good idea?  Bad idea?  Too much
> headache potential?
> 
> Luckily for me, Big D is in the Dallas area so I plan on there in person and
> talking to them about these simulators and their prices.  If interested, I
> will let the group know what happens.  If not, I'll keep mum.
> 
> Flames, comments all welcome!
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Simple modem connections

2001-01-07 Thread Andy Walden


As someone that ran a dialup ISP for a number of years I have learned that
sometimes you just need to refer them to the competition. Don't get me
wrong. We usually would schedule a tech to head out and give it his best,
but if he couldn't rattle something loose we would assume it was just a
fluke between switching offices. Sometimes it simply does not work...

andy

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tony van Ree wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Here I am sitting a work thinking just how simple it is to look after dial-up 
>services.
> 
> I have a person that calls into a router, connects, authenticates all seems fine.  
>When I ping him I lose pings between the access router and the client.  He connects a 
>48K I have had him remove compression and error correction from the modem this stops 
>him dropping.  
> 
> OK. the fault seems to be on the line at his end I have some 200+ other dialups into 
>the access router with no worries.  I have the line checked out the tests come up 
>fine.  What's more the same person can dial into another service using the same 
>equipment at his end but different equipment at the service provider end and all is 
>fine I am assured.
> 
> My next thing is to move the service to another access router only to find the 
>problem is still there.
> 
> He is the only one having trouble yet we seem to be the onlyones having trouble with 
>him.
> 
> EASY ISN'T IT.  If it wasn't for little things like this I'd be unemployable.
> 
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> Australia
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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin_Cullimore

A clearer statement about the level of involvement that SNMP might have
within postings on a (clearly) hypothetical bay/nortel newsgroup is that it
would be a recurring topic, with a fairly high percentage of specific
implementation questions. This has to do with the ineffably sluggish nature
of their graphical configuration tool, the lateness-to-market of their
non-script-driven cli (bcc) and the fact that snmp gets & sets are
incorporated into the TI that appears upon the establishment of a console
or telnet session.
Extremely cursory comparisons with mg-soft and similar browsing tools lead
me to believe that the wellfleet mibs are significantly better documented
than their cisco counterparts. They also appear to me to be easier to
navigate, but that might have more to do with relative inexperience than
anything else.





"Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/07/2001
06:10:42 PM

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Good show Kevin and Charles.Did you notice some one having said "  SNMP
would be more focusssed by the Bay Network folks.

Kevin- Good start !

If you read the SNMP related RFC , note the statement - SNMP RFC's  are
still a controversial subject. There has been no standardisation yet.

-Guru



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To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??


I'll start with the obvious:

SNMP stands for Simple Network Management Protocol, which is a misnomer
because it is not simple excepting for the fact that it has four commands I
know of:  set, get, trap, and the other one I forget.  A better name would
Tree-Like Database-Structure Underlying Management Protocol (TDUMP);
notice
the missing network. SNMP depends on a network to manage its devices;
however, it can manage more than network-centric devices.  It can also
manage computers, servers, printers, coke machines, and pretty much
anything
that has a network connection.

Pretty much all those big name network management packages such Openview,
Tivoli, CiscoWorks, JoeSnuff's NetSnuffer, and so on all use SNMP.   Had
you
the time, you actually could manipulate and create your own SNMP code to do
your network management.

And just to ensure this thread doesn't die and to stimulate discussion, I
am
going to make some erroneous statements next...here goes  (identify the
mistakes here and get a fabu No-prize!!)

(FX: clears throat)

"We should use SNMP on our networks because the TCP traffic it generates
causes a great deal of overhead.   Instead, if we need SNMP informaiton, we
telnet to port 179, and run a get-set command that will dump the SNMP
information to a text file, where we can search for what we need.   SNMP is
not useful because it can only run on routers and switches.   There is also
a security issue as the community strings on Cisco are stored in plaintext,
and can not ever be encrypted.SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco
devices with the RW password of Cisco."

I challenge all to find the mistakes, explain why they are wrong, and give
us the correct info...

There, that should spur some discussion on SNMP... enjoy!!

Charles




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>
> -- Kevin
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:30 PM
> Subject: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
>
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000
Network
> proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be too
attractive
> ! not on the forum at least.
> >
> > Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
> >
> > Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of SNMP
> topics on any of the CCxx exams ?
> >
> > Is there any exams to prove the mettle of SNMP geeks ?
> >
> > -Guru
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Scores on Boson's and Colts - BCMSN

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin_Cullimore

Based on my experience (similar to yours, except that i took all of the
boson BCMSN tests dozens of times) and the postings since august, the boson
tests appear to have something to do with reality, and some semblance of
correlation with test results whereas the colt tests appear to serve
primarily as a mechanism by which cisco can frustrate and scare
certification candidates. I'd hold out for higher scores on the boson
before I would feel comfortable signing up for the exam.






"Jennifer Mellone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/07/2001
09:49:34 PM

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Subject:  Scores on Boson's and Colts - BCMSN


For folks who did Boson and Colts and passed BCMSN:

How well do the scores on the Boson's and Colts predict success on the real
BCMSN?

For example, I took Boson BCMSN Test #2 quiz A, B, and C and got 77, 75,
and
69 (I don't like that trend!).
Then I took Colt "BCMSN post assessment" and got 48/63 (passing score
47-ouch!).

With scores like that, do you think I'd pass by a comfortable margin, or
maybe just barely pass, or maybe not pass at all?

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Re: Frame Relay Security

2001-01-07 Thread Brian Lodwick

Group,
  Which then I believe should obviously lead into the discussion- if VPN's 
are today's PVC's then would it be appropriate to say that traffic 
transported over the public internet with such a protocol as IPSec is just 
as safe? and how do you know your enemies aren't working for that frame 
provider -if they are using single DES they had better hope not. Are there 
protocols now capable of providing enough security encryption for extremely 
sensitive traffic to transit the public internet?

>>>Brian

>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Frame Relay Security
>Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:37:09 -0500
>
> >I understand most of the benefits of frame relay, but I am wondering if =
> >there are any security problems assoicated with this protocol?  Is it =
> >secure enough for unencrypted transfer of financial or sensitive =
> >information?  Any help understanding the security risks associated with =
> >frame relay appreciated.
> >
> >-- Kevin
>
>Is a dedicated line secure enough for unencrypted transfer of
>financial or sensitive information?
>
>Answer:  It depends.
>
>People often assume that frame is somehow shared when "dedicated
>lines" are not.   From Chapter 5 of my _WAN Survival Guide_,
>
> >All too many users have an intuitive belief that if they were to
> >pull on the London end of a London to New York circuit, wires would
> >wiggle in Manhattan. The reality, of course, is that any network of
> >complexity beyond a very simple LAN involves one or more layers of
> >virtualization onto real media. At the OSI lower layers,
> >virtualization usually involves multiplexing, but various name and
> >address mapping functions provide virtual structure as one moves up
> >the protocol stack.
>
>Typically, frame PVCs and T1's run over exactly the same media from
>the customer site to the telco end office.  Once at the end office,
>they are multiplexed.  T1 is far too slow for economical data
>transmission between modern telco offices.  Both the T1 and the frame
>circuits typically will be multiplexed onto facilities at least at
>DS-3, and usually OC-12 to OC-192. So much beyond the local loop,
>there really isn't much difference between frame and dedicated.
>
>Interpretations in the US HIPAA legislation for medical data tend to
>allow unencrypted traffic to flow over dedicated and frame, but not
>the public Internet.  The Federal Reserve, however, tends to want
>end-to-end encryption regardless of the media, historically single
>DES.  Military traffic would be bulk encrypted and possibly
>end-to-end encrypted as well.
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CiscoWorks & HP Openview in multiple VLAN.

2001-01-07 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong

Good day,

It seems that I'm stuck with a problem on my customer network. I doesn't
have much
idea about LANE and their existing network setup since it is managed by
other vendors
so the bottom line is that I cannot view their cisco router configuration at
all.
However base on their existing updated network schematic design, they have 4
core
catalyst switches with RSM module and few distribution & floor switches.

My current HP Openview and CiscoWorks configuration pointing the address of
the local 
catalyst RSM IP with SNMP read-only enabled. I'm expecting that the HP
Openview
to discover all the devices in the network while the CiscoWorks discover all
the routers
in the network by looking on the routing table in RSM.

At the end, it turns up that both of the network management software didn't
discover
any devices in the network even the after 2 days leaving it on my table to
discover.
Do you guys think that I should replicate/mirror all the other VLANs traffic
into my network
management port (SPAN)? 

Any idea or improvement should I look forward in case I left our any of
requirements?

Thanks in advance.

p/s: I'll be appreciate that if you intend to asked a question, please reply
to my email and I
will reply to your query to the group again to illuminate unnecessary
flooding.

Best wishes,
Ryan

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Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??

2001-01-07 Thread Brian Lodwick

Charles you said:
SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco devices with the RW password of 
Cisco.
SNMP is not enabled by default- Cisco feels this is a security risk and 
notes the most secure option is to not enable it at all.
About the RW password do you mean the default RW community string?
The default value of the read-write community string on a Cisco router is- 
private

>>>Brian

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
>Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:25:35 -0500
>
>A clearer statement about the level of involvement that SNMP might have
>within postings on a (clearly) hypothetical bay/nortel newsgroup is that it
>would be a recurring topic, with a fairly high percentage of specific
>implementation questions. This has to do with the ineffably sluggish nature
>of their graphical configuration tool, the lateness-to-market of their
>non-script-driven cli (bcc) and the fact that snmp gets & sets are
>incorporated into the TI that appears upon the establishment of a console
>or telnet session.
>Extremely cursory comparisons with mg-soft and similar browsing tools lead
>me to believe that the wellfleet mibs are significantly better documented
>than their cisco counterparts. They also appear to me to be easier to
>navigate, but that might have more to do with relative inexperience than
>anything else.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/07/2001
>06:10:42 PM
>
>Please respond to "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
>Subject:  Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
>
>
>Good show Kevin and Charles.Did you notice some one having said "  SNMP
>would be more focusssed by the Bay Network folks.
>
>Kevin- Good start !
>
>If you read the SNMP related RFC , note the statement - SNMP RFC's  are
>still a controversial subject. There has been no standardisation yet.
>
>-Guru
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:Cthulu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:33:58 -0600
>To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
>
>
>I'll start with the obvious:
>
>SNMP stands for Simple Network Management Protocol, which is a misnomer
>because it is not simple excepting for the fact that it has four commands I
>know of:  set, get, trap, and the other one I forget.  A better name would
>Tree-Like Database-Structure Underlying Management Protocol (TDUMP);
>notice
>the missing network. SNMP depends on a network to manage its devices;
>however, it can manage more than network-centric devices.  It can also
>manage computers, servers, printers, coke machines, and pretty much
>anything
>that has a network connection.
>
>Pretty much all those big name network management packages such Openview,
>Tivoli, CiscoWorks, JoeSnuff's NetSnuffer, and so on all use SNMP.   Had
>you
>the time, you actually could manipulate and create your own SNMP code to do
>your network management.
>
>And just to ensure this thread doesn't die and to stimulate discussion, I
>am
>going to make some erroneous statements next...here goes  (identify the
>mistakes here and get a fabu No-prize!!)
>
>(FX: clears throat)
>
>"We should use SNMP on our networks because the TCP traffic it generates
>causes a great deal of overhead.   Instead, if we need SNMP informaiton, we
>telnet to port 179, and run a get-set command that will dump the SNMP
>information to a text file, where we can search for what we need.   SNMP is
>not useful because it can only run on routers and switches.   There is also
>a security issue as the community strings on Cisco are stored in plaintext,
>and can not ever be encrypted.SNMP is enabled by default on all Cisco
>devices with the RW password of Cisco."
>
>I challenge all to find the mistakes, explain why they are wrong, and give
>us the correct info...
>
>There, that should spur some discussion on SNMP... enjoy!!
>
>Charles
>
>
>
>
>""Kevin Welch"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>013101c07881$76ef9160$2a002a0a@sjc102498">news:013101c07881$76ef9160$2a002a0a@sjc102498...
> > Maybe its because no one has started a thread about SNMP
> >
> > -- Kevin
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Why dont I see SNMP discussion on this board ??
> >
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Did you notice - in our forum which claims to be addressing 10,000
>Network
> > proffessionals , SNMP related discussion does not seem to be too
>attractive
> > ! not on the forum at least.
> > >
> > > Why dont I see discussion on Cisco MIB's, SNMP, RMON ?
> > >
> > > Is this not a trouble area ? Or is it becoz , there is not much of 
>SNMP
> > topics on any of the CCxx exams ?
> > >
> > > Is there any exams to prove the mettle of SNMP

Repost: CiscoWorks & HP Openview in multiple VLAN.

2001-01-07 Thread Ryan Ngai Hon Kong

Repost.

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Date: 2001-01-07 23:12
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Good day,

It seems that I'm stuck with a problem on my customer network. I doesn't
have much
idea about LANE and their existing network setup since it is managed by
other vendors
so the bottom line is that I cannot view their cisco router configuration at
all.
However base on their existing updated network schematic design, they have 4
core
catalyst switches with RSM module and few distribution & floor switches.

My current HP Openview and CiscoWorks configuration pointing the address of
the local
catalyst RSM IP with SNMP read-only enabled. I'm expecting that the HP
Openview
to discover all the devices in the network while the CiscoWorks discover all
the routers
in the network by looking on the routing table in RSM.

At the end, it turns up that both of the network management software didn't
discover
any devices in the network even the after 2 days leaving it on my table to
discover.
Do you guys think that I should replicate/mirror all the other VLANs traffic
into my network
management port (SPAN)?

Any idea or improvement should I look forward in case I left our any of
requirements?

Thanks in advance.

p/s: I'll be appreciate that if you intend to asked a question, please reply
to my email and I
will reply to your query to the group again to illuminate unnecessary
flooding.

Best wishes,
Ryan

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RE: A question regarding private addressing

2001-01-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Let me make some comments fundamentally for background. It's 
increasingly considered useful to minimize the amount of 
configuration that an end station needs to do before becoming active. 
Servers and routers are special cases.

DHCP is stateful:  the DHCP server remembers what addresses have been assigned.

Apple and Microsoft alternatives are dynamic stateless alternatives. 
They select a tentative name, and then broadcast sequentially 
selected addresses until they find one with no conflict.

CLNS and IPv6 alternatives listen for a high-order prefix defining 
alink-local or  site-local part, and prefix these part(s) in front of 
universal MAC lists.  Still mostly stateless, but more coooperative.

>At 10:37 PM 1/6/01, John Nemeth wrote:
>>On May 29,  5:24am, Craig Columbus wrote:
>>}
>>} OK.  I can accept that Microsoft (or Apple for that matter) would do
>>} something like this and then expect the world to revolve around
>>
>>   Actually, as Howard mentioned, neither of these companies
>>initiated the protocol
>
>It can be argued that Apple initiated the particular protocol that we have
>been discussing, that is, the Microsoft Automatic Private IP Addressing
>method. The client sends a gratuitous ARP 10 times broadcasting the
>network-layer address that it wants to use. If the address is in use, the
>client selects another address. The creators of AppleTalk, including
>Gursharan Sidhu, Ron Hochsprung, and Alan Oppenheimer own a patent that
>reads essentially just like that.
>
>The patent is from 1984. At that time IP networks were managed by computer
>scientists. Apple had the brilliant idea that ordinary people could set up
>and manage networks. I think we should give credit where credit is due. As
>Chuck mentioned, in the 1990s Microsoft also tried to make file and print
>sharing easy, but the majority of the credit should go to Apple.
>
>Apple could have imposed the dynamic network-layer addressing patent on the
>industry but perhaps it was too specific. (It has a bunch of LocalTalk
>specifics in it.) Also, they probably let it go because they recognize the
>value of furthering the ease of use of IP networks. People who will be
>connecting their home appliances together don't want to understand IP
>addressing, subnet masks, etc.! And how about ad hoc networks in training
>classes, on long plane rides, in hotel lobbies, on the beach, etc. &;-)
>
>John makes some other very good points below. I don't want to detract from
>them, but I just had to make the point again about AppleTalk. It's unfair
>to not do so.
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>>} them.  However, I'm confused as to the benefit.  Why would anyone want a
>>} non-assigned default IP address to appear on their network?  Do they really
>>} think that people will implement a non-RFC1918 compliant address space just
>>} to save configuration time?  (Actually, I can think of several cases where
>>
>>   It does save configuration time, since this is for cases where no
>>configuration at all happens, most likely due to the lack of a real
>>administrator.
>>
>>} How do Internet backbone routers (BGP ASs) deal with this traffic?
>>
>>   They don't.  There is a reason why this address range is called
>>"link local".  It's only useful within a single network segment that
>>isn't connected to any other networks.
>>
>>} Let's say that I want to take the easy way out and I connect a small
>>} network to the Internet via an ISP.  I'm not running NAT, but I'm running
>>} the 169.254 addresses inside my network. If I've got a static route to an
>>
>>   Then, you're SOL.  To connect to the Internet, some kind of
>>configuration must happen (even, if it is just a box running NAT on the
>>outside interface and a DHCP server on the inside interface).
>>
>>} ISP public address, and we're not exchanging routing information, I can't
>>} see how this traffic would ever get back to my network.  If I'm exchanging
>>
>>   It wouldn't.
>>
>>} routes with an ISP (via BGP or some other interior protocol), where and how
>  >} do the 169.254 routes get filtered?  There has to be some mechanism, or
>>
>>   It should be filtered at the network ingress point.
>>
>>} there would be thousands of summary routes back to 169.254 showing up on
>>} the Internet table.
>>
>>   169.254 should never ever show up on the Internet, although I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it did.  I've seen some pretty large ISP's put
>>RFC-1918 addresses on the global Internet, which is also a no-no.
>>
>>} Any help in understanding this is appreciated.
>>
>>   The purpose of this is to setup small impromptu isolated networks
>>which often don't have an administrator with no configuration at all
>>required.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Repost: CiscoWorks & HP Openview in multiple VLAN.

2001-01-07 Thread Andy Walden


The message made it to the list. Because no one is really managing the
addresses on this list, whenever you send a message to the list you will
usually get a couple of bounces from bad addresses.

andy

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> Subject:  CiscoWorks & HP Openview in multiple VLAN.
> Date: 2001-01-07 23:12
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>  
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> 
> Good day,
> 
> It seems that I'm stuck with a problem on my customer network. I doesn't
> have much
> idea about LANE and their existing network setup since it is managed by
> other vendors
> so the bottom line is that I cannot view their cisco router configuration at
> all.
> However base on their existing updated network schematic design, they have 4
> core
> catalyst switches with RSM module and few distribution & floor switches.
> 
> My current HP Openview and CiscoWorks configuration pointing the address of
> the local
> catalyst RSM IP with SNMP read-only enabled. I'm expecting that the HP
> Openview
> to discover all the devices in the network while the CiscoWorks discover all
> the routers
> in the network by looking on the routing table in RSM.
> 
> At the end, it turns up that both of the network management software didn't
> discover
> any devices in the network even the after 2 days leaving it on my table to
> discover.
> Do you guys think that I should replicate/mirror all the other VLANs traffic
> into my network
> management port (SPAN)?
> 
> Any idea or improvement should I look forward in case I left our any of
> requirements?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> p/s: I'll be appreciate that if you intend to asked a question, please reply
> to my email and I
> will reply to your query to the group again to illuminate unnecessary
> flooding.
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> Ryan
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2600 Route Processor

2001-01-07 Thread Rick Holden

I find on Cisco's web page that the 2600 series routers are capable of
inter-vlan routing. Does this mean that a 2600 can be used as a route
processor for an MLS? Or does it just mean that it can route between vlans
because it can has to Ethernet ports?

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Re: Scores on Boson's and Colts - BCMSN

2001-01-07 Thread Timothy Metz

I just took BCMSN last week and got a 912. Until the last couple days
(before the test) I was only getting scores in the 80's on Boson #2.
Although my real test was similar (in subject matter) to #2 it wasn't as
similar as the Boson CCNA vs. Cisco CCNA. I was pleasantly surprised when I
hit the finished button, well, actually, more like ecstatic. I thought the
test was challenging but no walk in the park. I was sure I was in the low
800's. As always, read the questions very carefully ;-) Passing score for my
test (64 questions) was 699.

As for study materials, I used the Sybex and Cisco Press books. They are
very similar except on two points:

The Sybex goes way into detail on Multicasting, this level of detail WASN'T
necessary for my test.

The Cisco Press book spends alot of time on the Campus model and the
different models of switches, this WAS necessary for my test.

Hope that helps,

Tim


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> For folks who did Boson and Colts and passed BCMSN:
>
> How well do the scores on the Boson's and Colts predict success on the
real
> BCMSN?
>
> For example, I took Boson BCMSN Test #2 quiz A, B, and C and got 77, 75,
and
> 69 (I don't like that trend!).
> Then I took Colt "BCMSN post assessment" and got 48/63 (passing score
> 47-ouch!).
>
> With scores like that, do you think I'd pass by a comfortable margin, or
> maybe just barely pass, or maybe not pass at all?
>
> - Jennifer Mellone
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Re: Subject: ATQ0H0

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Werner

Yes, I have experienced this several times.  It is the dreaded 
Catalyst switch who thinks it is talking to a modem :-)  Here 
are my recommended fixes in this order:

1.  Get a known good black console cable.  Get several.  Try 
each one out and see if any will get the console to come up 
other than ATQ commands.

2. Change out your DB-9 to RJ-45 converters with others that 
are known/good.  See if that works.

3.  Finally, and lastly, change out to other COM ports/other PC 
COM ports to see if that will help.  In the three times I had 
this scenario, only once did I have to go to step 3.  
Obviously, it goes without saying that you need to ensure you 
have the correct COM port settings(9600,8,N,1,) particularly 
with flow control turned *off*.

4.  If all else fails, upgrade the firmware to something 
older/newer (experiment here).  Yes, I know it is fun sucking a 
1MB image through a 9600bps line, but that's what a cup of 
coffee is for 8-)

5.  If this one is so old that it has one of those DB-9 console 
connectors on the back of the switch (vice the newer RJ-45), 
you may need to order Cisco's OEM console cable for that box, 
or you will need to build a null modem cable as specced out 
here (watch wrap):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/192
8v5x/icg5x/csspec.htm#41267

You are on the right track if you can access the diagnostic 
console.  Lastly, strongly resist the temptation to throw the 
switch against the wall.  It may be needed for an RMA:-)

Best of luck,

Paul Werner  


> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:45:17 -0500
> From: "Jon O'Nan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ATQ0H0
> 
> I've been working with an older Catalyst 1900 switch 
(firmware ver 5.37)
> We
> can't get any management console output. We are able to bring 
up the
> diagnostic console by holding in the mode button on the front 
of the
> switch
> while turning on the power. After upgrading the firmware via 
xmodem, the
> switch will POST and then leave us with a blsnk screen except 
for modem
> strings ATQ0H0. Anyone ever experienced the same issue?



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Re: 2600 Route Processor

2001-01-07 Thread Bill Sucevic

You can setup an ethernet port on the 2600 to run ISL or dot1q (802.1q)
VLAN trunking.  This is down by creating subinterfaces for the ethernet
port.  

Here's a quick example:

interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 no shutdown
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 description Subinterface for VLAN 1 running ISL
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation isl 1
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description Subinterface for VLAN 2 running ISL
 ip address 2.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation isl 2

At 12:18 AM 1/8/01 -0500, Rick Holden wrote:
>I find on Cisco's web page that the 2600 series routers are capable of
>inter-vlan routing. Does this mean that a 2600 can be used as a route
>processor for an MLS? Or does it just mean that it can route between vlans
>because it can has to Ethernet ports?
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Sample paper CCIE R/S written

2001-01-07 Thread Gautam Gupta

Hi

Where can i get a sample paper of CCIE R/S written. I checked colt but
there is nothing...

Regards
Gautam

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Re: Help for VOIP!

2001-01-07 Thread Makarand Yerawadekar

Hi,

You may use 3600 and 2500. Let voice backhaul throu FE of 3600s for both end.

On 2500 you may want to config for QoS.

On 2500 you would use standard cables, if connecting back to back then DTE and DCE
cables. For VIC-2FXS it is usual RJ-11.

Bye

-Mak


Gene Park wrote:

> Hi, members,
>
> I have one question about VOIP.
> Actually, I have two 3600s with three exact modules-
> Voice card(NM-1V), ATM (1A-OC3MM), and FastEthernet,
> but no serial ports. The NM-1V has two FXS.
>
> Based on these, how do I set up for VOIP lab?
> I have several 2503, 2513, and 2514.
> Because I don't have serial ports on 3600s, do I
> need to use FastEthernet ports or use ATM interface?
> Please let me have cabling info too.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
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Re: help for lab setup!

2001-01-07 Thread Brad Ellis

Gene,

Hi!  You could have a (2) Port frame-switch with one of your
routers...although that doesnt do you much justice for practicing FR.  You
could put a module in the 36xx or get a cheap 25xx (2521) that has (4)
serial ports.  I'm not sure which ATM module that you have.  To do some real
useful ATM, you'll need an ATM switch that will do SVCs and PVCs (ie
LS1010).  For the VoIP, what VIC modules do you have?  Hopefully you have a
couple VIC-2FXS modules in your NM-2Vs.  If that's the case, you'll just
need a couple of analog phone to plug into them.  The only other thing I see
missing from your hardware is a Cat5k and an ISDN simulator.  Other than
that, it looks great!!!  Good luck.

-Brad Ellis
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> Dear Members:
>
> I've given following hardware to set up CCIE lab for a group of people.
So I'm looking for tips
> for topology. Any ideas would be appreciated. And I have some questions.
>
> 1. With the routers provided, I don't think I can make frame relay switch.
My guess is that I have
> to insert 4-port serial network module in an available slot on 3600. Am I
right or any other
> suggestions?
> 2. In ATM module, what do I have to plug into ATM0? Is it an ATM switch or
some other gear to have
> practices? I'm not sure on this. I heard that ATM LANE is no longer tested
in the lab.
> 3. For the voice, 2 channel voice module is installed. I think two phones
are required. What else
> do I need? I never had practice on the VOIP. Please help.
>
> 2 of 2503
> 2 of 2513
> 4 of 2514
> 1 of 2509
> 2 of 3600(3 modules in there)
> 2-channel voice network(voice 2v)
> ATM IA-OC3MM
> FastEthernet  1 FE-TX
>
> 1 of 2900XL Cat
> 1 of MAU
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
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Troubleshooting 102 - "password recovery"

2001-01-07 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Well that wasn't nearly so bad as it could have been. The low life who
trashed my router, not to mention spoiled it for a lot of folks on these
lists, could have been more malicious. But he was deliberate. No doubt about
it.

So here is today's troubleshooting lesson - not really password recovery,
but configuration register setting recovery. I have done a bit of password
recovery practice, but not much.

1) cannot get into rommon mode. Not that I can tell. Gibberish of various
sorts on screen. Check to be sure my version of HyperTerminal sends the
correct control-break sequence, using another router. it does. I was sure I
had upgraded this particular version, but these days, when moving between so
many different computers at home and on the job, one never can tell.

2) Ok, with gibberish on the screen, what are some things to check? A quick
look through CCO confirms that baud rate is the only terminal setting that
can be changed in the register. Thank goodness one cannot also change the
data, stop, and parity.

3) OK. Brute force this thing. 9600 does not work. Let's work down the
scale, and see. 4800 does not work. 1200 did not work earlier this
afternoon. But 2400 does work. I see clear text and I see I am in rommon
after all.

4) Check the current config register setting. E/s 202 [enter] reveals
the setting as 0x3942 you bad boy!

5) Use the o/r 0x2102 to reset the register  and reload.

6) Rommon again! Hhmmm.

7) OK, this time do a config mem ( I probably should have looked at this
last time anyway, but I did not )

8) Well, what did the yo-yo do here? Hostname rommon>  interesting.
Certainly explains the console message I was seeing last time I reloaded.
Well, I don't have time to fool around any more. Erase start, reload, things
come up ok. I will copy my saved configuration later.

9) Too bad garbage-head inserted himself into this weekend. Someone was
doing a very interesting IPSec tunnel between my pod and theirs. I was
looking forward to seeing the result.

10) End result - learned a few more things which will be valuable in the
lab - troubleshooting portion.

Extra credit - with a configuration register setting of 0x3942, what was
happening at boot time?

Chuck
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Re: Radius support in cisco routers

2001-01-07 Thread Steve Linney

Nezar,

We needed to go to IP/Plus on a 1600 to get Radius support. This required
more flash than the 4mb we originally purchased.

Steve
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> As far as I can see there is no Radius support in cisco's 16xx and =
> 26xx series. Is it a software version limitation ? For example do newer =
> releases support radius ? Or is it a hardware limitation ? If this was =
> the case which series supports radius ?
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