Re: cabletron

2001-01-21 Thread KPNY

Well, I am not spreading rumour

http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/Smurf_attack_exhausts_Cabletron_Enter
asys__SSR_CPU.html

I am the one who reported this to CERT and Securiteam.com. During May last
year, we experienced smurf (just smurf with TTL=0) and this exhausted all of
our SSR CPU time... So you can see the consequence. After the event, we
replaced *ALL* the SSRs with Foundrys.

Cabletron Systems knows this (see this
http://www.enterasys.com/support/techbltn/tb1057-9.html). They can't solve
the problem 7 months after the event. The release note is not telling the
whole story. When I was on the venue, I can't telnet, all OSPF routes were
dropped, 100% CPU utilization, and no packet can get thru'. NO ACL can solve
this problem, no rate-shaping command effective All the packet travels
to L3 and then dropped by kernel and trigger 100% CPU usage it is a
nightmare (and I am still so scared..)

So, DO NOT USE CABLETRON. This is what I can tell.



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Re: IP duplication

2001-01-21 Thread suaveguru

so what command is that?
--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, suaveguru wrote:
> 
> > is it issuing show arp ?
> 
> Close, but no cigar. show arp will show you the
> router's ARP table,
> which will only contain one of the duplicates' MAC
> addresses. With luck,
> you would see both on different tries, but that
> can't be guaranteed. 
> What you need is a command that will let you see the
> ARP packets as they
> enter or exit the router.
> 
> > --- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Frusone Federico wrote:
> > > 
> > > > hi to all,
> > > > i,m looking for an application to find
> duplicate
> > > ip in a network. Someone
> > > > can help me ?
> > > 
> > > Assuming you mean "I want to check whether a
> given
> > > IP address was
> > > assigned to more than one interface/machine",
> you
> > > don't need an
> > > application for that. All you need is:
> > > 
> > > 1- A way to cause ARP requests to be sent on the
> LAN
> > > or VLAN where the
> > > suspected duplicate address lives.
> > > 
> > > 2- A way to see the ARP replies as they come in.
> > > 
> > > A router will let you do both.
> > > 
> > > -- 
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Re: IP duplication

2001-01-21 Thread suaveguru

this might just kill the router
--- Brian Lodwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about #debug arp
> 
> >>>Brian
> 
> >From: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: IP duplication
> >Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:47:35 -0800
> >
> >The latest version of Etherpeek 4.2 can detect
> Duplicate IP  addresses.
> >
> >Etherpeek 4.0 cant.
> >
> >See if our comic Natasha can write a Perl Script
> :-)
> >
> >-PG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From:suaveguru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:33:54 -0800 (PST)
> >To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: IP duplication
> >
> >
> >is it issuing show arp ?
> >--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Frusone Federico wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi to all,
> > > > i,m looking for an application to find
> duplicate
> > > ip in a network. Someone
> > > > can help me ?
> > >
> > > Assuming you mean "I want to check whether a
> given
> > > IP address was
> > > assigned to more than one interface/machine",
> you
> > > don't need an
> > > application for that. All you need is:
> > >
> > > 1- A way to cause ARP requests to be sent on the
> LAN
> > > or VLAN where the
> > > suspected duplicate address lives.
> > >
> > > 2- A way to see the ARP replies as they come in.
> > >
> > > A router will let you do both.
> > >
> > > --
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> look
> > > like your passport
> > > photo." (variously attributed to Al Gore and
> Erma
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Re: IP duplication

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

How about #debug arp

>>>Brian

>From: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: IP duplication
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:47:35 -0800
>
>The latest version of Etherpeek 4.2 can detect Duplicate IP  addresses.
>
>Etherpeek 4.0 cant.
>
>See if our comic Natasha can write a Perl Script :-)
>
>-PG
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:suaveguru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:33:54 -0800 (PST)
>To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: IP duplication
>
>
>is it issuing show arp ?
>--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Frusone Federico wrote:
> >
> > > hi to all,
> > > i,m looking for an application to find duplicate
> > ip in a network. Someone
> > > can help me ?
> >
> > Assuming you mean "I want to check whether a given
> > IP address was
> > assigned to more than one interface/machine", you
> > don't need an
> > application for that. All you need is:
> >
> > 1- A way to cause ARP requests to be sent on the LAN
> > or VLAN where the
> > suspected duplicate address lives.
> >
> > 2- A way to see the ARP replies as they come in.
> >
> > A router will let you do both.
> >
> > --
> > "Airplane travel is nature's way of making you look
> > like your passport
> > photo." (variously attributed to Al Gore and Erma
> > Bombeck)
> >
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-21 Thread Thanatos

I could not give you exact information, when I have looked at peering
policies in the past it normally depends on the type of address space
involved.  If the addresses came from what was typically a Class C space
they may not require a large aggregation of IP addresses.  It is pretty much
standard that coming from what was typical Class A space that anything
smaller than a /19 would not be advertised or accepted.  I know of a
broadband cable ISP that ran into this aggregation problem with Verio.  None
of their users could reach anything within Verio's network (Or AT&T for that
matter)

The following link has an example of Verio's peering policy, which I am
assuming is pretty standard as peering policies go.
http://info.us.bb.verio.net/routing.html#PeerFilter

-- Kevin.

"J Roysdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I've heard that most ISPs will filter less than /19.  If this is true,
then
> only the ISP who owns the aggregate route will get heard by most other
ISPs.
>
> Can anyone confirm at which point most ISPs filter?  I know at a minimum
> most won't accept more specific than /24.
>
> I finally got some evil internal routing & vpn issues taken care of, and
> should be finally implementing BGP with Sprint & UUNET (geeze, it's been
> forever dealing with these internal issues).  If nothing else, I'll ask
> their BGP folks what they filter at.
>
> I can also confirm that about double the ASN's in use (9731) have been
> handed out.  We were given ASN 18506 in September.
>
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>
> ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > >Brian,
> > >
> > >Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
> > >Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
> > >connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
> > >portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of
> ISP1s
> > >CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
> > >containing the company's block of IPs.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
> > >block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing
> between
> > >the two for incoming traffic!!!
> > >
> > >  I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice
with
> > >each other among other things).
> > >
> > ISP1, however, MUST advertise not its aggregate alone, but both its
> > aggregate and the more-specific customer block that also is
> > advertised by ISP2.
> >
> > Assume the following:
> >
> > ISP1 has the block 192.168.0.0/16.  This is the only block it
advertises.
> >
> > It delegates 192.168.2.0/24 to the customer.
> >
> > ISP2 advertises 192.168.2.0/24.
> >
> > So in the global routing table, there will be two routes:
> >
> >   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
> >
> > Since 192.16.2.0/24 is more specific than 192.168.0.0/16, the rest of
> > the world will send ALL 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to ISP2.
> >
> > By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
> > the routing system conceptually will contain:
> >
> >   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
> >
> > Other AS will install the ISP1 route to 192.168.2.0/24 if their
> > connectivity to ISP1 is better than their connectivity to ISP2, and
> > vice versa.
> >
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-21 Thread Thanatos

I could not give you exact information, when I have looked at peering
policies in the past it normally depends on the type of address space
involved.  If the addresses came from what was typically a Class C space
they may not require a large aggregation of IP addresses.  It is pretty much
standard that coming from what was typical Class A space that anything
smaller than a /19 would not be advertised or accepted.  I know of a
broadband cable ISP that ran into this aggregation problem with Verio.  None
of their users could reach anything within Verio's network (Or AT&T for that
matter)

The following link has an example of Verio's peering policy, which I am
assuming is pretty standard as peering policies go.
http://info.us.bb.verio.net/routing.html#PeerFilter

-- Kevin.

"J Roysdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
94gm53$u1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94gm53$u1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've heard that most ISPs will filter less than /19.  If this is true,
then
> only the ISP who owns the aggregate route will get heard by most other
ISPs.
>
> Can anyone confirm at which point most ISPs filter?  I know at a minimum
> most won't accept more specific than /24.
>
> I finally got some evil internal routing & vpn issues taken care of, and
> should be finally implementing BGP with Sprint & UUNET (geeze, it's been
> forever dealing with these internal issues).  If nothing else, I'll ask
> their BGP folks what they filter at.
>
> I can also confirm that about double the ASN's in use (9731) have been
> handed out.  We were given ASN 18506 in September.
>
> --
> Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/
>
>
> ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:p05001919b68e6e6b973a@[63.216.127.98]...
> > >Brian,
> > >
> > >Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
> > >Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
> > >connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
> > >portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of
> ISP1s
> > >CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
> > >containing the company's block of IPs.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
> > >block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing
> between
> > >the two for incoming traffic!!!
> > >
> > >  I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice
with
> > >each other among other things).
> > >
> > ISP1, however, MUST advertise not its aggregate alone, but both its
> > aggregate and the more-specific customer block that also is
> > advertised by ISP2.
> >
> > Assume the following:
> >
> > ISP1 has the block 192.168.0.0/16.  This is the only block it
advertises.
> >
> > It delegates 192.168.2.0/24 to the customer.
> >
> > ISP2 advertises 192.168.2.0/24.
> >
> > So in the global routing table, there will be two routes:
> >
> >   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
> >
> > Since 192.16.2.0/24 is more specific than 192.168.0.0/16, the rest of
> > the world will send ALL 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to ISP2.
> >
> > By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
> > the routing system conceptually will contain:
> >
> >   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
> >   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
> >
> > Other AS will install the ISP1 route to 192.168.2.0/24 if their
> > connectivity to ISP1 is better than their connectivity to ISP2, and
> > vice versa.
> >
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RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to eithershut up or go away?

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

Group,
  Well I don't really particularly like Pradeep's comment's, but I just 
deleted the message. I wouldn't have ever had to think about it again.
The problem I have is that I like to hear from everyone, and I know 
egotistical people make others think twice before writing in, thinking 
Pradeep will make them feel stupid for asking an "easy" question. I also 
realize some of the people who I might want to hear from may be more 
sensitive to malicious retort than I, and that really sucks if it makes them 
reluctant to write in. So do us a favor please Pradeep and hold off on the 
hostile comments, and help us with your awesome knowledge by answering these 
questions we can't figure out. Just think then you can actually claim 
whenever someone achieves CCIE from this list that you were partly 
responsible.
~my 2 cents
(if we gathered up all these 2 cents we could buy lots of Worldcom stock)

>>>Brian

>From: "William E. Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "William E. Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Dave Swink'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'John Day'" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to 
>eithershut up or go away?
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:13:01 -0600
>
>Not to mention the fact that its poor form to operate that way on a public,
>peer driven forum and that since we are colleagues by virtue of our trade,
>it leaves much to be desired in regards to wanting to ever work with you.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Dave Swink
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:31 PM
>To: John Day; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar
>to eithershut up or go away?
>
>
>Pradeep,
>
>Your immature, fantastically egotistical, and vicious comments are a
>frequent cause of discord on this list.  You have been reprimanded several
>times.  Take it to heart and change your behavior.  Or go away.
>
>I remember several months ago when you were desperately searching for a 
>job.
>Have you ever stopped to think about how many potential employers are
>getting an incredibly bad impression of you?  This field is surprisingly
>small at the senior level.  If you have a hard time with courtesy, at least
>try some enlightened self-interest.
>
>Dave Swink
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > John Day
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to
> > eithershut up or go away?
> >
> >
> > Dear Pradeep Kumar,
> >
> > If you don't start to act like a responsible member of this
> > message group, I
> > am going to ask the moderator of the group to remove you.
> >
> > You don't add anything positive to the discussion, and in fact, only 
>cause
> > trouble. Please go away. You appear to be a thoroughly disagreeable 
>chap.
> > You also seem to ask some stupid questions of your own from time to 
>time,
> > like the one about starting a thread on snmp. If you want a thread on
> > something, then START ONE. Otherwise, If you don't have anything
> > positive to
> > contribute, then keep your mouth shut.
> >
> > You obviously don't understand "normal" discussion group conduct. You 
>also
> > obviously don't understand acceptable versus unacceptable
> > comments. I doubt
> > that you are anything close to being a "protocol guru". If you were, you
> > wouldn't act like such a JERK.
> >
> > FYI, regarding your latest stupid comments, I am the senior manager of a
> > global network. For your information, I have fully funded a large
> > CCIE study
> > lab at my office, and also buy my Cisco people books, pay for their 
>exams
> > (passing grades only) and send them to schools. Any my VP didn't
> > kick me in
> > the butt for doing it.
> >
> > jd102750
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Type 1 to RJ45 TR Cables

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin Welch

Does anyone know a part number or a place that sells IBM Type 1 Token =
Ring to RJ45 Connectors.  I am trying to connect my the TR port on my =
2612 to an IBM 8228 MAU.

-- Kevin

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CATM exam

2001-01-21 Thread leong Chee Ming

Hi :

   Does anyone know what is the passing scores for CATM ? I am taking CATM 
next week.

regards
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Re: IP duplication

2001-01-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

The latest version of Etherpeek 4.2 can detect Duplicate IP  addresses.

Etherpeek 4.0 cant.

See if our comic Natasha can write a Perl Script :-)

-PG




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is it issuing show arp ?
--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Frusone Federico wrote:
> 
> > hi to all,
> > i,m looking for an application to find duplicate
> ip in a network. Someone
> > can help me ?
> 
> Assuming you mean "I want to check whether a given
> IP address was
> assigned to more than one interface/machine", you
> don't need an
> application for that. All you need is:
> 
> 1- A way to cause ARP requests to be sent on the LAN
> or VLAN where the
> suspected duplicate address lives.
> 
> 2- A way to see the ARP replies as they come in.
> 
> A router will let you do both.
> 
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> like your passport
> photo." (variously attributed to Al Gore and Erma
> Bombeck)
> 
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Frame Relay lab open

2001-01-21 Thread J Roysdon

I probably shouldn't do this due to someone hosing Chuck lab, but I'll risk
it.  If you want access, you need to email my hotmail account for a username
and password.  You must use a non-anonymous account (no hotmail, yahoo, msn,
aol, or any other place that you can get an account in 30 seconds).  In
other words, I want an account I can track down in case you turn out to be
an evil SOB who wants to wreck it for others.  I don't share private email
addresses, it just goes into a text file on my hard drive in case I need to
track someone down.  Email once with "Router Access" in the subject, and
I'll create an account when I have time.  Email twice and I'll block you
address and delete the emails.  Also know that I syslog all access into my
external router as well as the authentication info.

Ok, sorry to be so harsh, but I just needed to get that all out there.  Now
for the good stuff:
Currently, I've got a frame relay lab up with a 3640 as the frame relay
switch (inaccessible), a 2501 as the host/central site, and two 2502s as the
remote sites and also connected via a TR concentrator.

http://r2cisco.artoo.net/routers.html

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Re: Remote Telnet access via dial-up

2001-01-21 Thread J Roysdon

I still think it's funny how much folks have hyper-spazed on this thread.  I
think I've said it at least twice that only one telnet session is allowed
into the MS Telnet Server.  Further, I can see the IP that does connect,
plus I'm talking to the Cisco engineer the whole time, and
lastly, as soon as Cisco was done I disabled the account on my laptop.  The
routers weren't online in any other fashion.  End of access remotely, end of
story.

Don't feel too secure with ssh either.  How would Cisco get my public key
securely?  If I sent it to them, it'd be vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle
attack.  Unless you physically copy your public key to your box from your
access server, someone could have snatched it on the wire and tossed you
another, which they could easily talk to your spoofed ssh client with, and
then relay the commands to the real ssh server with the public key it
intercepted, and you'd never know it.

I've got CDPD in my car.  Slower than mud, especially for telnet.  It's fine
if I just need to pop in and check status on a router.  The best method
seems to be to ssh into my Linux box which I run screen on (allowed for
multiple bash sessions to be kept active, even when I disconnect).  I often
have a few dozen screens open to customer sites and can easily pop on
remotely even with CDPD's slowness to get status on something or make a
minor change.  The speed is only 14.4K, but it's really the latency that's
horrid.  700-2000ms delay is pretty normal, if not more.

It is nice for getting traffic status while on the road, but the following
page takes 3-5 minutes to load (watch the wrap):
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/traffic?from=index&event=overview&link=btwn/
twn-traffic_overview&traffic_city=sfo:gcd:San+Francisco:CA:377750:-1224183&u
id=u18ah4oao6gcscze:bl14a0uwt

Outlook Webaccess can take 10 minutes to load.  But if you're bored and
stuck in traffic, what else can you do?  Heh.

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> On Jun 10, 11:13am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
>  Yes.  I would have the head of anybody that tried that stunt.  At
> the very least, he should have been using ssh.  However, even that
> would have been dicey.
>
>  As far as the lack of an analogue phone line, that problem is
> easily solved (depending on your point of view) by using CDPD (Cellular
> D? Packet Data).  I have a friend in Canada that has a CDPD modem in
> his laptop.  The service is $50/month for unlimited usage from Telus
> Mobility.  It doesn't matter where he is, his laptop is always
> on-line.  Add an ethernet card in the second PCMCIA slot, and you've
> got a roaming router that could create a back door into any network.
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-21 Thread J Roysdon

I've heard that most ISPs will filter less than /19.  If this is true, then
only the ISP who owns the aggregate route will get heard by most other ISPs.

Can anyone confirm at which point most ISPs filter?  I know at a minimum
most won't accept more specific than /24.

I finally got some evil internal routing & vpn issues taken care of, and
should be finally implementing BGP with Sprint & UUNET (geeze, it's been
forever dealing with these internal issues).  If nothing else, I'll ask
their BGP folks what they filter at.

I can also confirm that about double the ASN's in use (9731) have been
handed out.  We were given ASN 18506 in September.

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""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:p05001919b68e6e6b973a@[63.216.127.98]...
> >Brian,
> >
> >Hi!  Funny you bring this up, I just got a phone call on it today.
> >Basically, you can have two seperate ISPs and have incoming redundant
> >connections without using BGP.  ISP1 will provide a block of IPs from a
> >portion of their CIDR block to the "company."  Since this is part of
ISP1s
> >CIDR block, they already broadcast a route to the rest of the internet
> >containing the company's block of IPs.
>
>
> >
> >ISP2 will then also broadcast a route to ISP1's block of IPs (just the
> >block!!!).  The tricky part comes when you try to do load balancing
between
> >the two for incoming traffic!!!
> >
> >  I am making several assumptions here (that the ISPs will play nice with
> >each other among other things).
> >
> ISP1, however, MUST advertise not its aggregate alone, but both its
> aggregate and the more-specific customer block that also is
> advertised by ISP2.
>
> Assume the following:
>
> ISP1 has the block 192.168.0.0/16.  This is the only block it advertises.
>
> It delegates 192.168.2.0/24 to the customer.
>
> ISP2 advertises 192.168.2.0/24.
>
> So in the global routing table, there will be two routes:
>
>   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
>   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
>
> Since 192.16.2.0/24 is more specific than 192.168.0.0/16, the rest of
> the world will send ALL 192.168.2.0/24 traffic to ISP2.
>
> By having ISP1 advertise both its aggregate and the more-specific,
> the routing system conceptually will contain:
>
>   192.168.0.0/16  ISP1
>   192.168.2.0/24  ISP1
>   192.168.2.0/24  ISP2
>
> Other AS will install the ISP1 route to 192.168.2.0/24 if their
> connectivity to ISP1 is better than their connectivity to ISP2, and
> vice versa.
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Re: IP duplication

2001-01-21 Thread suaveguru

is it issuing show arp ?
--- ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Frusone Federico wrote:
> 
> > hi to all,
> > i,m looking for an application to find duplicate
> ip in a network. Someone
> > can help me ?
> 
> Assuming you mean "I want to check whether a given
> IP address was
> assigned to more than one interface/machine", you
> don't need an
> application for that. All you need is:
> 
> 1- A way to cause ARP requests to be sent on the LAN
> or VLAN where the
> suspected duplicate address lives.
> 
> 2- A way to see the ARP replies as they come in.
> 
> A router will let you do both.
> 
> -- 
> "Airplane travel is nature's way of making you look
> like your passport
> photo." (variously attributed to Al Gore and Erma
> Bombeck)
> 
> 
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RE: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-21 Thread William E. Gragido

Oz has not posted on here in a LONG time man, I thought I was the only who
remembered.

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Steve H
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)


In my case.. 1 down, 3 to go..

Congrats Mark.. I just finally got myself back on the study train myself,
and took the BCMSN Switching test today. I've been out of the study game,
and out of GroupStudy for about a year now (Sorry guys & gals!!!) ;-)

Well.. I finally found the motivation again, and passing todays test helped!
I also found myself not studying as dilligently as I could have. In the end,
I made it thru on 2 things.  Personal experience and 2 days of cramming with
the Cisco Press BCMSN Exam Certification Guide.  I broke down & bought it as
a last minute desparation move, as the Cisco Press BCMSN "course book" was
putting me to sleep every day by chapter 2.. (Theory is soo boring!!).

With only 2 days with the cert guide, I crammed the sample test & read the
chapter Q&A quizzes over & over.. and on the topics I didn't fully
understand, I read over as much of the chapter as I could to fill in the
mental blanks.

I do think I got a bit lucky, as there were a few area's I still feel weak
in, but either got no questions on those area's, or barely 1 or 2.

So, the concensus is that BCRAN is the easiest? Interesting. I thought
todays test was easier than I expected, but still enough to cause a bead or
2 of sweat..  Personally, I know I'm horrible at things like Async configs..
but ISDN I find rather easy.

If anyone is still around from the last time I haunted the list (Chuck..
Tony.. Ozzie.. Paul.. anyone... Buehler.. Buehler.. ) they'll probably
remember why.. but that was in another life ;-)

Interesting that everyone thinks CIT is the worst. Personally, I'm setting
aside 3 weeks hard study time for BSCN Routing as the hardest. I'm on a
tight personal goal schedule. 1 test every 2 weeks, but again, 3 for BSCN.
So, tomorrow I schedule the CIT and hit the books. I suspect I have an
advantage, in that most of my experience is raw troubleshooting. It's also
mostly in routing, over switching, but the BSCN goes into a depth I haven't
learned from experience yet. So, I'm planning heavy studies for that one.
CIT I'm more secure about.  Hopefully, it's not overconfidence..

If all goes well.. we (my test partner) should see CCNP accomplished by
mid-March.  As she likes to say "Failure is not an option" ;-) Then
again.. one does not always need immediate gratification to achieve success.
But.. drive on we must!

Steve-H@ .. oh wait.. nevermind. Now it's just:
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> Hey Group,
>Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
barely
> studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my
> stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this
test
> was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as
the
> switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and
then
> I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP,
CCDA.
> God I can't wait.   =o)
>
> On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
Lammle's
> Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and
> got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have
scored
> me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all
and
> now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change
> that 13 though, just not a good number)...
>
> Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)
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disk 0 and slot 0

2001-01-21 Thread kenny wong

Hi everyone , 
Got a question.

When a do a " show file system " in my C7500 , i got

File Systems: blah... blah... blah

There is a flash card inserted in slot0 of the router.
But i give me disk0: and slot0:

So , What is the difference between disk0: and slot0:
? Thanks...

Regards
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Re: Routers in my lab

2001-01-21 Thread J Roysdon

Try a fully loaded 6509 with both power supplies.  Needless to say, I'd
recommend keeping the static bags hand to unload this thing before trying to
get it into the rack, or at least yank both power supplies.

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"sam adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I think the Cat 5K is just a little to heavy for the back.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Ole Drews Jensen
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:22 AM
> To: 'Albert Lu'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mask Of Zorro
> Subject: RE: Routers in my lab
>
>
> What excactly you need or not, depends on what you want to study for next,
> and what you would like to practise. If you wish to work with Token Ring,
> you would need to get either a fixed router that has a build-in Token Ring
> interface, or a modular router where you can get a Token Ring WIC to
insert.
> You would then also need a MAU (or MSAU as they are called in Microsoft
> Study Guides) and one or two Token Ring NIC's so you could play around
with
> it.
>
> Noone can answer your question better than yourself. Draw what you
> need/would like on a piece of paper, and then look at the products
available
> on http://www.cisco.com
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
>
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
> 
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> 
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:29 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mask Of Zorro
> Subject: Re: Routers in my lab
>
>
> I'm thinking of getting rid of
>
> 1x2503
> 2x2610
> 1x2502
> 1x2504
>
> And using that money to get Cat5000 and ISDN simulator. I'm also
> considering a couple of 2513, do I really need 2513 if so do I need 2 or
> can I go with 1?
>
> I know people who's done CCIE with just 6-7 routers, I'm not sure how I
can
> make use of more than that either.
>
> BTW. My aim is to be able to do most of the CCBootcamp labs.
>
> --
> > From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Albert Lu' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Routers in my lab
> > Date: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:45 AM
> >
> > I would keep them all unless you're in acute need of money. Even though
> I'm
> > many frequent flyer miles away from the CCIE, I do believe that you can
> not
> > have to much equipment to practice on.
> >
> > If it were for the CCNA only, 1,2 or 3 2500's should be plenty.
> >
> > You might want to get rid of a some of the 2500's and get different
> routers
> > instead, plus a switch or two. You can keep buying stuff from now to
> > Christmas, the only thing that stops you are the amount of money you can
> > afford to spend on this.
> >
> > If I was a multi-millionaire and for some reason still wanted to study
> for
> > these Cisco tests, I would buy every model they have ever made and setup
> a
> > whole house as a lab.
> >
> > But, I'm not, so I currently only have four 2500's to play with, but
> that's
> > kind of okay for now. I would have liked a Cat5000, but that's a little
> too
> > heavy for my wallet.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >
> > 
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  http://www.CiscoKing.com
> > 
> >  NEED A JOB ???
> >  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Routers in my lab
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Take a look at what I've got in my lab consisting of 12 routers.
> >
> > 3x2503
> > 2511
> > 2501
> > 2521
> > 2502
> > 2504
> > 2x2610
> > 2x2620
> >
> > Have I over done it? Are there scenarios in the CCIE that may need all
> > this? What should I keep what should I get rid of?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Albert
> >
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Re: True Client Proximity Problem:

2001-01-21 Thread Natasha

Dir. sir, we are a friendly group of professionals and students here and
every so often someone comes along and disrupts the normal flow of
information. Pradeep, you and I are disrupters, You with your self
indulgence and me with my silly weekend jokes. When you say that you
make CCIEs I have a tendency not to believe you because teaching takes
abilities such as listening that aren't evident in your posts. Just like
I'm no comic but love to pass on a good joke, you pass on an attitude.

As to your questions.
What is Content Routing?
With a normal EDI message, there is a small amount of 'header'
information, which contains details such as the sender's address, the
recipient's address, the date and time of creation, the data type and
some reference information. This data is used by the EDI systems at both
ends of the link to route the data. The recipient will use it to
determine which department the data is destined for, and which
application should process it. Using this information, it will decide
how to translate it. Because this information is often used for routing,
these headers are sometimes called 'envelope' segments. In most cases,
they are all that is needed to successfully route data from the sender
to the recipient's application. Envelope segments carry the addressing
information, and they encapsulate normal data segments, which carry the
main body of the information.
-
question 2 the 3 sites?
I do that with PERL scripts.

I'm not saying like you that I know everything about computers or
networking but I'm very good at  finding it. 
http://www.orionltd.co.uk/products/cnt_main.htm





>Pradeep Kumar wrote:
> 
> Garth,
> 
> I agree with you.Everyone needs help.I also do , except those which do not violate 
>the Cisco NDA.
> 
> I believe in " SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW AND LEARN WHAT YOU DONT"
> 
> There are at least 10- 12 members of this group who are a CCNA /CCNP coz of help 
>from me.
> 
> I am not a CCIE , I make CCIE's.Not boasting.If you want to bet , give me any 10 
>people in this group, just average people, and I will make them clear thier CCIE 
>written in 2 months flat. One of them , I want is Jim, who started this string :-)
> 
> Give me another 6 months and you will see me in this same group assuring CCIE lab 
>too.If you ask me how I get that confidence --- man , I work my backside off in my 
>home lab.
> 
> I dont "do labs". I create labs.
> 
> so Garth, time to do some complicated Content Routing ( not IP Routing)  labs.One 
>field where I am taking help from someone who keeps botting me but I keep going back 
>to him.
> 
> Now here is some home work for you.
> question 1: what is content Routing ?
> 
> question 2: If you had 3 sites, site A, Site B, site C . How would you plan your 
>network so that you get true Client Proximity, ie if all three sites are 
>www.grou.com, then when the client browser does a get www.group.com, you want the 
>Client request to go to that server which is closest to the client.
> 
> -PG

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Re: Looking for site to Lucent QIP subnet calculator

2001-01-21 Thread J Roysdon

I just tried it, and it's not a bad subnet calculator, but so far my
preference is 3Com's 3CIPCalc.  Both allow you to export to text files, but
again 3Com's seems the most useful for importing into a spreadsheet.

I've got both mirrored (bypass registration spam collectors):
ftp://artoo.net/pub/bin/windows/32bit/

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> Anthony,
>
> You can find the QIP subnet calculator at the following URL:
>
>
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B6A9CEAD2921543F&Method=DisplayDetails
>
> jas
>
> At 05:53 PM 1/19/01 +, Anthony Iyoha wrote:
> >Please, if you have info about the site where I can download Lucent qip
> >subnet calculator,I will appreciate it very much.I know it was posted to
the
> >group sometimes last year but lost the address to the site.
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Re: ISDN idle-timer

2001-01-21 Thread Erick B.

Jenny, 

Here's output from 12.0(7)T Enterprise. I have
12.1(5)T here at home but don't have no dial lines to
test with.

In both 'show dialer' and 'show isdn act' I see the
time remaining reported. Someone from the other list
suggested using 'show caller' commands and I tried
those on 12.07T but they didn't report time remaining
and didn't report much of anything; I believe that is
more of access-server command to give detailed
information on calls placed, etc.

r5#show dialer int bri1/0

[snip]

Time until disconnect 46 secs
Current call connected 00:01:16

[snip]

Idle timer (120 secs), Fast idle timer (20 secs)
Wait for carrier (30 secs), Re-enable (15 secs)
Dialer state is idle

r5#show isdn act
[snip]

CallCalling  Called   Remote  Seconds
Seconds Seconds Charges
TypeNumber   Number   NameUsedLeft
   IdleUnits/Currency

Out133379 
41  78  0


  
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Erick,
> Thanks for passing on the question.
> 
> sh is act doesn't help much either.
> 
> router1#sh is act
>

> ISDN ACTIVE CALLS
>

> CallCalling  Called   Remote  Seconds
> Seconds Seconds Charges
> TypeNumber   Number   NameUsed   
> LeftIdleUnits/Currency
>

> Out  xx  router2 1890  
> -   -  0
>

> 
> I'd be interested in getting feedback from others
> regarding what IOS
> versions/platforms show the idle-timer in the 'show
> dialer' command, and
> which don't.
> 
> Is anyone else running 12.1 with ISDN?  What
> platform?  What shows up with
> 'show dialer'?
> 
> JMcL
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried 'show isdn act' ? I haven't done it
> on
> a AS5300 but that shows a listing of active calls
> with
> phone #, time up, idle time remaining, etc.
> 
> I also asked your question on the Cisco-NAS mailing
> list which is more access-server related.
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In IOS 11.2, a 'show dialer' shows the time until
> > disconnect, as below...
> > Serial2/0:9 - dialer type = ISDN
> > Idle timer (120 secs), Fast idle timer (20 secs)
> > Wait for carrier (30 secs), Re-enable (15 secs)
> > Dialer state is physical layer up
> > Interface bound to profile Dialer1
> > Time until disconnect 118 secs  <-- idle
> > timer value
> > Connected to xx (router1)
> >
> > I find the idle-timer very useful when
> > troubleshooting.
> > However I am playing with an AS5300 running IOS
> > 12.1(4), and it doesn't give the value of the
> > idle-timer.
> >
> > Serial0:30 - dialer type = ISDN
> > Idle timer (120 secs), Fast idle timer (20 secs)
> > Wait for carrier (30 secs), Re-enable (15 secs)
> > Dialer state is data link layer up
> > Dial reason: ip (s=x.x.x.x, d=x.x.x.x)
> > Interface bound to profile Di2
> > Current call connected 00:05:14
> > Connected to xx (router2)
> >
> > I've checked the CCO command reference for 12.1,
> and
> > it still shows the
> > 'time until disconnect' line in the doco.  I can't
> > see any matching bugs on
> > Bug Search.
> > Has anyone come across this before?  Bug, or
> > 'feature'?  Is it restricted
> > to the AS5300?
> > And... has anyone found this information in any
> > other command??
> >
> > Ta,
> > JMcL


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RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to eithershut up or go away?

2001-01-21 Thread William E. Gragido

Not to mention the fact that its poor form to operate that way on a public,
peer driven forum and that since we are colleagues by virtue of our trade,
it leaves much to be desired in regards to wanting to ever work with you.

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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:31 PM
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Subject: RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar
to eithershut up or go away?


Pradeep,

Your immature, fantastically egotistical, and vicious comments are a
frequent cause of discord on this list.  You have been reprimanded several
times.  Take it to heart and change your behavior.  Or go away.

I remember several months ago when you were desperately searching for a job.
Have you ever stopped to think about how many potential employers are
getting an incredibly bad impression of you?  This field is surprisingly
small at the senior level.  If you have a hard time with courtesy, at least
try some enlightened self-interest.

Dave Swink

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Day
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to
> eithershut up or go away?
>
>
> Dear Pradeep Kumar,
>
> If you don't start to act like a responsible member of this
> message group, I
> am going to ask the moderator of the group to remove you.
>
> You don't add anything positive to the discussion, and in fact, only cause
> trouble. Please go away. You appear to be a thoroughly disagreeable chap.
> You also seem to ask some stupid questions of your own from time to time,
> like the one about starting a thread on snmp. If you want a thread on
> something, then START ONE. Otherwise, If you don't have anything
> positive to
> contribute, then keep your mouth shut.
>
> You obviously don't understand "normal" discussion group conduct. You also
> obviously don't understand acceptable versus unacceptable
> comments. I doubt
> that you are anything close to being a "protocol guru". If you were, you
> wouldn't act like such a JERK.
>
> FYI, regarding your latest stupid comments, I am the senior manager of a
> global network. For your information, I have fully funded a large
> CCIE study
> lab at my office, and also buy my Cisco people books, pay for their exams
> (passing grades only) and send them to schools. Any my VP didn't
> kick me in
> the butt for doing it.
>
> jd102750
>
>
>
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Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-21 Thread Steve H

In my case.. 1 down, 3 to go..

Congrats Mark.. I just finally got myself back on the study train myself,
and took the BCMSN Switching test today. I've been out of the study game,
and out of GroupStudy for about a year now (Sorry guys & gals!!!) ;-)

Well.. I finally found the motivation again, and passing todays test helped!
I also found myself not studying as dilligently as I could have. In the end,
I made it thru on 2 things.  Personal experience and 2 days of cramming with
the Cisco Press BCMSN Exam Certification Guide.  I broke down & bought it as
a last minute desparation move, as the Cisco Press BCMSN "course book" was
putting me to sleep every day by chapter 2.. (Theory is soo boring!!).

With only 2 days with the cert guide, I crammed the sample test & read the
chapter Q&A quizzes over & over.. and on the topics I didn't fully
understand, I read over as much of the chapter as I could to fill in the
mental blanks.

I do think I got a bit lucky, as there were a few area's I still feel weak
in, but either got no questions on those area's, or barely 1 or 2.

So, the concensus is that BCRAN is the easiest? Interesting. I thought
todays test was easier than I expected, but still enough to cause a bead or
2 of sweat..  Personally, I know I'm horrible at things like Async configs..
but ISDN I find rather easy.

If anyone is still around from the last time I haunted the list (Chuck..
Tony.. Ozzie.. Paul.. anyone... Buehler.. Buehler.. ) they'll probably
remember why.. but that was in another life ;-)

Interesting that everyone thinks CIT is the worst. Personally, I'm setting
aside 3 weeks hard study time for BSCN Routing as the hardest. I'm on a
tight personal goal schedule. 1 test every 2 weeks, but again, 3 for BSCN.
So, tomorrow I schedule the CIT and hit the books. I suspect I have an
advantage, in that most of my experience is raw troubleshooting. It's also
mostly in routing, over switching, but the BSCN goes into a depth I haven't
learned from experience yet. So, I'm planning heavy studies for that one.
CIT I'm more secure about.  Hopefully, it's not overconfidence..

If all goes well.. we (my test partner) should see CCNP accomplished by
mid-March.  As she likes to say "Failure is not an option" ;-) Then
again.. one does not always need immediate gratification to achieve success.
But.. drive on we must!

Steve-H@ .. oh wait.. nevermind. Now it's just:
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>Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
barely
> studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my
> stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this
test
> was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as
the
> switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and
then
> I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP,
CCDA.
> God I can't wait.   =o)
>
> On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
Lammle's
> Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and
> got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have
scored
> me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all
and
> now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change
> that 13 though, just not a good number)...
>
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Re: AS5300 versions

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

First of all why is it "stopping".  Is it possible that you have a number of modems in 
a pending state.  Does your system hang up incorreclty (not hang up).  I wouldn't have 
a job if it wasn't for hang ups, that, incidently never happen to other suppliers.

We run many versions of IOS and for no reason some places seem to be better than 
others.  I spend a lot of my time trying to work out why.  We usually run version 
2.6.2.0 of modem software.  In another area we run 2.6.1.0.  It seems there is not 
much difference.  As I said earlier some places never seem to drop others do but some 
clients.

Teunis
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Australia


On Sunday, January 21, 2001 at 10:26:01 PM, R Danser wrote:

> 
> Does anyone have an AS5300 that is running stable and connecting at decent
> speeds.  I have an AS5300 that is used for an 800 number.  I am getting many
> disconnects and lower than expected connection rates.  The versions of code
> that I have loaded seem to correct or help the connection speed but after a
> few weeks the AS5300 stops answering and must be reset.  I know that part of
> the problem may be the carrier and I am working on that also.  Just want to
> know what version of IOS and Mica modem code seem to work the best.  Cisco
> says they are all great.  My thoughts are your mileage may very.
> 
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> 
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Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin_Cullimore

Reviewing the list submissions for the past couple of months might give you
the impression that this is a case where if you could only read one book on
a topic, Halabi's would be it for BGP, regardless of the vendor
sponsorship. I'm actually looking forward to the Doyle book, especially
since he's now at Juniper (according to various book websites).
Unfortunately, I'm at the same state you are, so I can't really add to the
summary.






"george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/21/2001
09:30:08 PM

Please respond to "george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
Subject:  Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.


Just found my own answer. Looks like the cisco press " internet routing
architectures " by Halabi is exactly what I was looking for.
Concur?


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AS5300 versions

2001-01-21 Thread R Danser


Does anyone have an AS5300 that is running stable and connecting at decent
speeds.  I have an AS5300 that is used for an 800 number.  I am getting many
disconnects and lower than expected connection rates.  The versions of code
that I have loaded seem to correct or help the connection speed but after a
few weeks the AS5300 stops answering and must be reset.  I know that part of
the problem may be the carrier and I am working on that also.  Just want to
know what version of IOS and Mica modem code seem to work the best.  Cisco
says they are all great.  My thoughts are your mileage may very.

Thanks in advance.


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Backplane Speeds

2001-01-21 Thread Perry Lucas

Anyone know the backplane speeds of 3600 series of routers?  I can find the
PPS stats but can't find anything on their backplane speeds (megabits per
second)

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True Client Proximity Problem:

2001-01-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Garth,

I agree with you.Everyone needs help.I also do , except those which do not violate the 
Cisco NDA.

I believe in " SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW AND LEARN WHAT YOU DONT"

There are at least 10- 12 members of this group who are a CCNA /CCNP coz of help from 
me.

I am not a CCIE , I make CCIE's.Not boasting.If you want to bet , give me any 10 
people in this group, just average people, and I will make them clear thier CCIE 
written in 2 months flat. One of them , I want is Jim, who started this string :-)

Give me another 6 months and you will see me in this same group assuring CCIE lab 
too.If you ask me how I get that confidence --- man , I work my backside off in my 
home lab.

I dont "do labs". I create labs.

so Garth, time to do some complicated Content Routing ( not IP Routing)  labs.One 
field where I am taking help from someone who keeps botting me but I keep going back 
to him.

Now here is some home work for you.
question 1: what is content Routing ?

question 2: If you had 3 sites, site A, Site B, site C . How would you plan your 
network so that you get true Client Proximity, ie if all three sites are www.grou.com, 
then when the client browser does a get www.group.com, you want the Client request to 
go to that server which is closest to the client.

-PG









-Original Message-
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Sent:Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:04:14 -
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him


Pradeep (Protocol Guru),

Apology or not, for those that have watched the group for a long time, they
will recognise your blunt, unhelpful, ignorant replies.
This is not the first, you get flamed and then you apologise because the
majority disagrees with you.
Get a life - you're just a smart .
You may need some help one day, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

Kindest Regards,

Gareth


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> Can we expect something intelligent.
> The only thing I can give you off line is a kick on your
backside.Actually, I dont have time for it.Give me your VP's mail id. He
might do it better.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:Jim Healis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:35:42 -0800
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Business Proposal for CCIE lab
>
>
> I would appreciate hearing feedback from others on the proposal I am
> planning to present to the VP of my department for the plan of paying
> for my studying for the CCIE lab.
> Anyone interested in helping me, contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him

2001-01-21 Thread Saif

WeLL GUYS IT WAS NOT RACISM U KNOW I WAS JUST WANTING TO LET PARADEEP KUMAR SAB 
THAT HOW DOES IT FEEL WHEN SOME BODY USE BAD WORDS FOR ONE AND I AM
SURE PARADEEP NOW GOT AFTER SEEING HIS APLOGY THAT  IT REALLY HURTS WHEN U SAY ANY 
THING BAD
ANY WAY I ALSO APLOGIZE FOR MY WORDS I ONLY USED TO LET PARADEEP KUMR SAAB FEEL 
THAT HE WAS WRONG
SORRY PARADEEP KUMAR SAAAB :)

Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> Can we expect something intelligent.
> The only thing I can give you off line is a kick on your backside.Actually, I dont 
>have time for it.Give me your VP's mail id. He might do it better.
>
> -Original Message-
> From:Jim Healis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:35:42 -0800
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Business Proposal for CCIE lab
>
> I would appreciate hearing feedback from others on the proposal I am
> planning to present to the VP of my department for the plan of paying
> for my studying for the CCIE lab.
> Anyone interested in helping me, contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him

2001-01-21 Thread Saif

Look at this :) my God so clever  any ways after ur aplogy i also aplogize :) just
wanted to tell u that u are also same like others  and if some one says bad how does it
feel man ?
sorry for my words just wanted to let u feel :)

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> Hey guys...I love you allMy public apology to Jim.
> Never again a bad word.
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Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-21 Thread Lori Mack

Actually, the Cisco Press book "Building Scalable Cisco Networks" is very good on BGP
and I'm studying for the same exam. I've also heard good things about Halabi. Good luck
on your test!
Lori

george wrote:

> Just found my own answer. Looks like the cisco press " internet routing
> architectures " by Halabi is exactly what I was looking for.
> Concur?
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Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-21 Thread John Neiberger

I would recommend two books on BGP:

BGP4: Interdomain Routing in the Internet (whose author I can't remember at
the moment)

Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd Edition, by Basaam Halabi and some other
fellow.

Both are excellent books.  The first is a bare-bones primer on BGP and
doesn't go into a lot of configuration detail, while the second book covers
the workings of the protocol very well while also detailing how to configure
it on Cisco equipment.

HTH,
John

>  I am preparing for the CCNP level certification. I prefer to use the CCIE
>  study series for the exams instead of studying a book dedicated to an
>  exam.(worked great for the switching exam).  Routing tcp vol 1 does not
>  touch BGP. What do you reccomend for learning BGP from ground zero. Need
to
>  learn cisco commands, a cisco book would be ideal. (don't want to buy a
book
>  dedicated to a particular exam). Any other recomendations would be
>  appreciated.
>  Too bad TCP vol 2 not around yet.
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Re: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to either shut up or go away?

2001-01-21 Thread John Neiberger

To John Day:

Thanks for your comments, hopefully they will find their mark with those
whose contributions tend not to be positive.  

There are times when some on this list (myself included, and I'm still
embarrassed about a thread from last summer ) have let threads get out of
hand, devolving into unprofessional flame wars.  We all, Pradeep included,
should try to avoid those at all times.  If we are--or strive to
be--professionals, we should behave that way.

To Pradeep:

Perhaps you have a sense of humor that we have not figured out yet, but very
often your posts seem to be confrontational and/or demeaning.  Whether you
really intend to come across this way or not, that is how we see you. So I
would have to stand with John on this one and ask that everyone--including
you--try to keep the postings on this list professional and constructive.

Regards (and hoping this very thread does not become a flame war),
John Neiberger

>  Dear Pradeep Kumar,
>  
>  If you don't start to act like a responsible member of this message
group, I
>  am going to ask the moderator of the group to remove you.
>  
>  You don't add anything positive to the discussion, and in fact, only
cause
>  trouble. Please go away. You appear to be a thoroughly disagreeable chap.
>  You also seem to ask some stupid questions of your own from time to time,
>  like the one about starting a thread on snmp. If you want a thread on
>  something, then START ONE. Otherwise, If you don't have anything positive
to
>  contribute, then keep your mouth shut.
>  
>  You obviously don't understand "normal" discussion group conduct. You
also
>  obviously don't understand acceptable versus unacceptable comments. I
doubt
>  that you are anything close to being a "protocol guru". If you were, you
>  wouldn't act like such a JERK.
>  
>  FYI, regarding your latest stupid comments, I am the senior manager of a
>  global network. For your information, I have fully funded a large CCIE
study
>  lab at my office, and also buy my Cisco people books, pay for their exams
>  (passing grades only) and send them to schools. Any my VP didn't kick me
in
>  the butt for doing it.
>  
>  jd102750
>  
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Re: colt tests

2001-01-21 Thread Aderion Brewer

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

You need a CCO login in order to get to the exams.  They do give a good
grasp of the what you can expect on the tests...

Break a leg

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>
> Thanks, John
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colt tests

2001-01-21 Thread John Slezak

Hi does anyone know the url where I can get the colt tests?

Thanks, John

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Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-21 Thread george

Just found my own answer. Looks like the cisco press " internet routing
architectures " by Halabi is exactly what I was looking for.
Concur?


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Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-21 Thread george

I am preparing for the CCNP level certification. I prefer to use the CCIE
study series for the exams instead of studying a book dedicated to an
exam.(worked great for the switching exam).  Routing tcp vol 1 does not
touch BGP. What do you reccomend for learning BGP from ground zero. Need to
learn cisco commands, a cisco book would be ideal. (don't want to buy a book
dedicated to a particular exam). Any other recomendations would be
appreciated.
Too bad TCP vol 2 not around yet.


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Re: Kindly Request

2001-01-21 Thread Deepak Sharma

hshaahahahhahahah.love it!

Rasik Dean wrote:

> =20
> 22 January 2001,
>
>  Dear Sir / Madam,
>
>  My name is Rasika Perera. I am a 24 years old Sri Lankan boy. I am a =
> school leaver and unemployed. I am interested in computer field and Art. =
>
> I like to follow a computer course and learn English Language to speak =
> and write well.
>
> But I have some financial difficulties. I haven't enough money to =
> complete my studies. I have a brother and a sister. They are students. =20
>
> Dear Sir/Madam please send me a Alarm Clock.=20
>
> Thanking you
>
> =20
>
> Yours Obediently,
>
> =20
>
> Rasika Perea.   =20
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Re: Kindly Request

2001-01-21 Thread Deepak Sharma

hshaahahahhahahah. I love it!

Rasik Dean wrote:

> =20
> 22 January 2001,
>
>  Dear Sir / Madam,
>
>  My name is Rasika Perera. I am a 24 years old Sri Lankan boy. I am a =
> school leaver and unemployed. I am interested in computer field and Art. =
>
> I like to follow a computer course and learn English Language to speak =
> and write well.
>
> But I have some financial difficulties. I haven't enough money to =
> complete my studies. I have a brother and a sister. They are students. =20
>
> Dear Sir/Madam please send me a Alarm Clock.=20
>
> Thanking you
>
> =20
>
> Yours Obediently,
>
> =20
>
> Rasika Perea.   =20
>
> =20
>
> E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Address: No 7/3, Library Road,Chilaw,Sri Lanka
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RE: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to eithershut up or go away?

2001-01-21 Thread Dave Swink

Pradeep,

Your immature, fantastically egotistical, and vicious comments are a
frequent cause of discord on this list.  You have been reprimanded several
times.  Take it to heart and change your behavior.  Or go away.

I remember several months ago when you were desperately searching for a job.
Have you ever stopped to think about how many potential employers are
getting an incredibly bad impression of you?  This field is surprisingly
small at the senior level.  If you have a hard time with courtesy, at least
try some enlightened self-interest.

Dave Swink

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Day
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to
> eithershut up or go away?
>
>
> Dear Pradeep Kumar,
>
> If you don't start to act like a responsible member of this
> message group, I
> am going to ask the moderator of the group to remove you.
>
> You don't add anything positive to the discussion, and in fact, only cause
> trouble. Please go away. You appear to be a thoroughly disagreeable chap.
> You also seem to ask some stupid questions of your own from time to time,
> like the one about starting a thread on snmp. If you want a thread on
> something, then START ONE. Otherwise, If you don't have anything
> positive to
> contribute, then keep your mouth shut.
>
> You obviously don't understand "normal" discussion group conduct. You also
> obviously don't understand acceptable versus unacceptable
> comments. I doubt
> that you are anything close to being a "protocol guru". If you were, you
> wouldn't act like such a JERK.
>
> FYI, regarding your latest stupid comments, I am the senior manager of a
> global network. For your information, I have fully funded a large
> CCIE study
> lab at my office, and also buy my Cisco people books, pay for their exams
> (passing grades only) and send them to schools. Any my VP didn't
> kick me in
> the butt for doing it.
>
> jd102750
>
>
>
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Cisco 2501

2001-01-21 Thread tl5footer

I have a Cisco 2501 32k 8 mg of ram IOS 12.1 2 serials port 1 10 base
ethernet 1 aux and console which include v.35 cable and consol cables for
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On topic: Am I the only one that would like Pradeep Kumar to eithershut up or go away?

2001-01-21 Thread John Day

Dear Pradeep Kumar,

If you don't start to act like a responsible member of this message group, I
am going to ask the moderator of the group to remove you.

You don't add anything positive to the discussion, and in fact, only cause
trouble. Please go away. You appear to be a thoroughly disagreeable chap.
You also seem to ask some stupid questions of your own from time to time,
like the one about starting a thread on snmp. If you want a thread on
something, then START ONE. Otherwise, If you don't have anything positive to
contribute, then keep your mouth shut.

You obviously don't understand "normal" discussion group conduct. You also
obviously don't understand acceptable versus unacceptable comments. I doubt
that you are anything close to being a "protocol guru". If you were, you
wouldn't act like such a JERK.

FYI, regarding your latest stupid comments, I am the senior manager of a
global network. For your information, I have fully funded a large CCIE study
lab at my office, and also buy my Cisco people books, pay for their exams
(passing grades only) and send them to schools. Any my VP didn't kick me in
the butt for doing it.

jd102750




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Re: Non-contiguous subnet masks

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

I have an awesome book for you! You must read Radia Perlman's 
Interconnections. This book not only digs into this issue, but relates IP to 
IPX, CNLP, DEC, and IPv6. I will first add we would not be able to call CIDR 
address listings in routing tables prefixes if non-contiguous masks were 
ever allowed in any vendors software. I was approached with this very 
question a little while ago I had just completed my Microsoft TCP/IP test 
and I thought I knew subnetting. A friend of mine asked why the masks had to 
be contiguous and I had a really dumb answer for him which was- that is just 
how it is. I will try to sum up what Radia goes over why this is so. If you 
think about this first and foremost non-contiguous subnet masks would make a 
confusing system even more confusing reading. In the beginning there wasn't 
anything keeping a vendor from implementing software that would allow 
non-contiguous subnet masks, but amazingly enough nobody was stupid enough. 
This would have made a not so efficient protocol even more inefficient. This 
would absolutely require the router to read the entire address before any 
routing decisions were made~ ouch. Then what is really neat is how Radia has 
homework at the end of the chapter to help bring to light how difficult it 
would be to determine if 2 addresses are in the same subnet. (the book is 
awesome).  Luckily non-contiguous masks were never implemented and we can 
call them darn slash things (/28) prefixes, our routing tables are smaller, 
and our processors have less load (humans and routers).

>>>Brian

>From: "Tony van Ree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Tony van Ree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "J. Kata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Non-contiguous subnet masks
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:07:45 +1100
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm old and sometimes get confused.  Why would one want to do something 
>that is not really very standard even if they could.  I once used to do a 
>lot of troubleshooting for a group that never had time to standardise their 
>network because it was "unique" and therefore required all their time to 
>manage it.  It was "unique" because it was not standardised.
>
>Don't most big failures occur because we do something others wouldn't?
>
>If so, why would you use no contiguous subnetmasks rather than blockout 
>nicely what you need?  Is there a substitute for good design?
>
>Teunis
>Hobart, Tasmania
>Austalia
>
>
>On Saturday, January 20, 2001 at 07:19:19 PM, J. Kata wrote:
>
> > Supposedly, non-contiguous subnet masks are
> > legal because the rfc's don't restrict their
> > use. Are there any good resources where I can
> > read up on this subject? Has someone come across
> > their use in the real world?
> >
> > And finally, can anyone answer these questions?
> >
> > IP: 172.31.100.100
> > SM: 255.255.24.164
> >
> > What subnet does this ip address belong to?
> > How many subnets does this mask support?
> > How many hosts does this mask support?
> > What is the broadcast address?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  -- Janusz Kata
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Re: 4500 or 4500 M

2001-01-21 Thread Nigel Taylor

Phil,
This link was posted to the list most recently.  I used it to verify
 my router was a 4500M.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/29.html

Enjoy...

Nigel..



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> Yet another 4000 question...  How do I know if my 4500 is or is not an =
> M.  I have a 4500 with 16 Megs of FLASH & 32 Megs of RAM.  I used to =
> know this one, maybe some 4500M owner can shed some light...
>
> Thanks=20
> Phil
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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Book

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

Thanks alot for your help I appreciate it.


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>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:12:27 -0600
>
>Give these guys a try http://www.solutionlabs.com/ and also
>www.certificationzone.com .  For some pretty simple ones to get your 
>started
>buy the Cisco CCIE All-In-One Lab Study Guide with CDROM.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>JH
>
>
>
>
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>desperate
> > need of lab materials that we can practice in order to get us ready for
>our
> > exams. i.e. setting up atm, voip, frame really, token ring, etc. If 
>anyone
> > knows ant good books or lab guides that can help us it would be greatly
> > appreciated.
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Re: BRI to AS5300 / No Traffic Pls Respond URGENT

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Just a thought but why not set up a dialer interface for your ISDN clients complete 
with dailer map statements. You might also need to do something like 

interface Serial2:15
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 1800
 autodetect encapsulation ppp v120 
 isdn switch-type "your switch type"
 isdn incoming-voice modem
 no peer default ip address
 no fair-queue
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap

Just a thought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Saturday, January 20, 2001 at 11:41:05 AM, Aftab Rashid wrote:

> 
>  Hi
> 
> I am using AS5300 with 4 PRIs for incoming dialup connection. My normal
> dialup connections through PSTN lines are working fine. But when we dial
> 
> using ISDN bri channel, the connection gets established but it do not
> passes the traffic. The PC gets the IP assigned but could not ping even
> to the RAS.  When we dial to other brand servers from the same PC and
> ISDN line, it works normally.
> 
> Here is configuration of Serial interface for reference.
> 
> interface Serial0:15
>  ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer idle-timeout 3600
>  isdn switch-type primary-net5
>  isdn incoming-voice modem
>  peer default ip address pool ippool
>  fair-queue 64 256 0
>  no cdp enable
>  ppp authentication pap
> !
> 
> Please point out what is missing.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Aftab
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Re: BRI interface not calling

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Why use the BRI ports to do your configs.

You might find that using a dialer interface for each area will work better.  Also do 
you want all of the interfaces to come up at the same time?  You only have one dialer 
list statement so this would stick em all into the same dialer group.  You might 
therefore want to look at using different dialer groups and all that stuff.  The Cisco 
Press BCRAN book has some good stuff on this.

I have found through bitter experience that hard configuring the BRI ports has flies 
on it in terms of functionality and operability.

Just some thoughts.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Austalia




On Sunday, January 21, 2001 at 01:17:02 PM, Hans Stout wrote:

> Hello colleagues,
> 
> I have a problem with two BRI interfaces on my Cisco 2610:
> On both interfaces, I have static dialer maps configured to two separate 
> locations, so the total is 4 locations to be dialed, two on BRI1/0, and two 
> on BRI1/1. Th problem is that two calls at a maximum are made, and the 
> remaining two connections are not made. I can make one call on BRI1/0 and 
> one on BRI1/1, or two on BRI1/0, or two on BRI1/1, but never four at the 
> same time. I have verified that all locations are reachable, but it seems 
> that only two ISDN calls are allowed at the same time. I am unable to figure 
> it out; I have attached the router config, maybe you have an idea ?
> 
> MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347#sh run
> Building configuration...
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> ! Last configuration change at 11:54:01 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
> ! NVRAM config last updated at 10:22:29 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
> !
> version 11.3
> service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
> service timestamps log datetime localtime
> service password-encryption
> !
> hostname MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$I.82$PNonsJvJ7Mjydwhw71IbI0
> !
> username MTDP_Nemesvamos_29348 password 7 01040554565A
> username MTDP_Eislingen_29354 password 7 10590A490846
> username MTDP_StEtienne_29350 password 7 095B4D591454
> username MTDP_Valmont_29349 password 7 0211070B0657
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip source-route
> no ip finger
> no ip bootp server
> no ip domain-lookup
> ipx routing 00b0.6456.6f20
> isdn switch-type basic-net3
> clock timezone GMT 0
> !
> !
> process-max-time 200
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
> description connected to MTD Saarbruecken,DE LAN
> ip address 10.66.2.1 255.255.254.0
> ip access-group 190 in
> no ip redirects
> no ip directed-broadcast
> no ip proxy-arp
> bridge-group 1
> !
> interface Serial0/0
> description MTD Saarbruecken,DE MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04528
> no ip address
> encapsulation frame-relay
> bandwidth 512
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial0/0.22 point-to-point
> description connected to Root_Beer
> ip address 10.1.200.30 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 22
> !
> interface Serial0/0.31 point-to-point
> description DLCI 32 to MTD Nemesvamos,HU DLCI 77 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04175
> ip address 10.66.0.25 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 32
> !
> interface Serial0/0.33 point-to-point
> description DLCI 33 to MTD StEtienne,FR DLCI 34 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B05935
> ip address 10.66.0.9 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 33
> !
> interface Serial0/0.35 point-to-point
> description DLCI 35 to MTD Valmont,FR DLCI 36 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B06090
> ip address 10.66.0.5 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 35
> bridge-group 1
> !
> interface Serial0/0.37 point-to-point
> description DLCI 37 to MTD Eislingen,DE DLCI 38 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04530
> ip address 10.66.0.1 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 37
> !
> interface Serial0/0.39 point-to-point
> description DLCI 39 to MTD Marchtrenk,AU DLCI 40 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B22520
> ip address 10.66.0.13 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 39
> !
> interface Serial0/0.41 point-to-point
> description DLCI 41 to MTD Falkoping,SE DLCI 42 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B13531
> ip address 10.66.0.17 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 41
> !
> interface Serial0/0.43 point-to-point
> description DLCI 43 to MTD Randers,DK DLCI MCIWorldcom CKT W0A99203
> ip address 10.66.0.21 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 43
> !
> interface Serial0/0.983 point-to-point
> descript

Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd....

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Hescock

Nigel,
   It has to be a classful network that's not connected to your router and
it has to be in your igrp routing table.  Please check the archives,
there's a lot of information about it in there.  

Brian

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Nigel Taylor wrote:

> All,
> In using the "ip default-network" command to try and have a default
> route passed into my IGRP routing domain to my OSPF domain. I don't
> see the command in the config for it, what I do get is this..a static route
> to an interface that doesn't exist.
> 
> The command I issued was: ip default-network 172.17.59.0 and added
> this network under the IGRP process in question, what I get this in the
> config is..
> 
> ip route 172.17.0.0 255.255.0.0  172.17.59.0
> 
> The weird thing is I can't get it out even after using the "no ip
> default-network"
> command.  The only way I've been able to get it out is by doing a "wr erase"
> and reloading the router.
> 
> Has anyone experienced this beforePlease tell me what I'm doing wrong.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Nigel Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd
> 
> 
> > So you can summarize the 172.17.59.0/29 with a /26 when redistribute EIGRP
> in
> > ospf (R3). On R1 you can create another ospf process make a mutual
> > redistribution between the 2 ospf process with a double summarization
> > 172.17.59.0/26 and 172.17.59.64/26 when come back to the original ospf
> process.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nigel Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > David,
> > > Another part of the lab requirements also said "NO"
> static
> > > routes could be configured..  So I'm read through like every book I've
> > > got... and checking like every IGRP doc on CCO for and answer...
> > >
> > > Thoughts anyone.?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Nigel..
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Nigel Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd
> > >
> > > > Your IGRP is configured with a /26 so you can not see any with a mask
> > > different
> > > > /26. So you will not see 172.17.59.48/28, 172.17.59.68/30 and
> > > 172.17.59.0/29.
> > > > The solution is two summarize all this route with a /26 mask. The
> problem
> > > is
> > > > that igrp does not have a summarization command, so the way to
> accomplish
> > > > summarization is to configure two static route and then redistribute
> that
> > > route
> > > > int igrp:
> > > >
> > > > ip route 172.17.59.0 255.255.255.192 null0
> > > > ip route 172.17.59.64 255.255.255.192 null0
> > > >
> > > > router igrp x
> > > > redistribute static metric 
> > > >
> > > > Hope this help;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nigel Taylor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey All,
> > > > > I'm also working on a OSPF - EIGRP - IGRP redistribution
> > > lab. In
> > > > > my case the lab
> > > > > required you to only use 172.17.59.x  for the EIGRP and OSPF
> domains.
> > > The
> > > > > requirement
> > > > > called for the IGRP domain that is connected to use 171.68.62.93 w/
> a 26
> > > bit
> > > > > mask.
> > > > > Let's try some ASCII art.
> > > > >
> > > > > EIGRP(E1)--R3 ---(S1)---(FR, P-t-P, Area
> > > > > 0)---R2 -R1(Area 1)
> > > > >  /   \
> > > > >/   \
> > > > > IGRPOSPF(Area 2)
> > > > > (E0) (E2)
> > > > >  /   \
> > > > >R4 R5
> > > > > \
> > > > > (Area 3)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I've got the EIGRP(E1) using 172.17.59.0/29.  The OSPF domain is
> > > > > using 172.17.59.48/28(S1) and (E2) using 172.17.59.68/30.  As I said
> the
> > > > > IGRP(E0)
> > > > > is assigned 171.68.62.93 w a /26 on R3's E0 interface.  I've read
> > > through
> > > > > the list thread
> > > > > on this but I'm still unable  to see a route to the OSPF from the
> IGRP
> > > > > domain.
> > > > > I'm so tired at this point can anyone shed some light on this for
> me...
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > Nigel...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: Mike McSpedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: fwells12 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:05 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: IGRP/OSPF redistribution question.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I forgot something:
> > > > > > If OSPF have a /20 network you can use15 /24 network to advertise
> this
> > > > > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike McSpedon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Re

Re: (no subject)

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Try tracing back to your authenticatioon server once you are into the remote router.  
If the access is ok then make sure the remote router knows where the authentication 
server is.

eg. tacacs-server host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

It would seem you are getting the last choice to log in.

Just a thought.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Austalia
 
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> I need help.
> 
> I have a router AS5300 at a central site and a 1601 at a remote site
> dailing into to  the central site. When you do a telnet to the remote site, 
> it takes long for you cannot authenticate. But if you use the local database 
> to authenticate, it is ok.  What do you guys think is the problem
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Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd....

2001-01-21 Thread Nigel Taylor

All,
In using the "ip default-network" command to try and have a default
route passed into my IGRP routing domain to my OSPF domain. I don't
see the command in the config for it, what I do get is this..a static route
to an interface that doesn't exist.

The command I issued was: ip default-network 172.17.59.0 and added
this network under the IGRP process in question, what I get this in the
config is..

ip route 172.17.0.0 255.255.0.0  172.17.59.0

The weird thing is I can't get it out even after using the "no ip
default-network"
command.  The only way I've been able to get it out is by doing a "wr erase"
and reloading the router.

Has anyone experienced this beforePlease tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Nigel.



- Original Message -
From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Nigel Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd


> So you can summarize the 172.17.59.0/29 with a /26 when redistribute EIGRP
in
> ospf (R3). On R1 you can create another ospf process make a mutual
> redistribution between the 2 ospf process with a double summarization
> 172.17.59.0/26 and 172.17.59.64/26 when come back to the original ospf
process.
>
>
>
>
> Nigel Taylor wrote:
>
> > David,
> > Another part of the lab requirements also said "NO"
static
> > routes could be configured..  So I'm read through like every book I've
> > got... and checking like every IGRP doc on CCO for and answer...
> >
> > Thoughts anyone.?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Nigel..
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Nigel Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: IGRP/EIGRP/OSPF redistribution cont'd
> >
> > > Your IGRP is configured with a /26 so you can not see any with a mask
> > different
> > > /26. So you will not see 172.17.59.48/28, 172.17.59.68/30 and
> > 172.17.59.0/29.
> > > The solution is two summarize all this route with a /26 mask. The
problem
> > is
> > > that igrp does not have a summarization command, so the way to
accomplish
> > > summarization is to configure two static route and then redistribute
that
> > route
> > > int igrp:
> > >
> > > ip route 172.17.59.0 255.255.255.192 null0
> > > ip route 172.17.59.64 255.255.255.192 null0
> > >
> > > router igrp x
> > > redistribute static metric 
> > >
> > > Hope this help;
> > >
> > >
> > > Nigel Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey All,
> > > > I'm also working on a OSPF - EIGRP - IGRP redistribution
> > lab. In
> > > > my case the lab
> > > > required you to only use 172.17.59.x  for the EIGRP and OSPF
domains.
> > The
> > > > requirement
> > > > called for the IGRP domain that is connected to use 171.68.62.93 w/
a 26
> > bit
> > > > mask.
> > > > Let's try some ASCII art.
> > > >
> > > > EIGRP(E1)--R3 ---(S1)---(FR, P-t-P, Area
> > > > 0)---R2 -R1(Area 1)
> > > >  /   \
> > > >/   \
> > > > IGRPOSPF(Area 2)
> > > > (E0) (E2)
> > > >  /   \
> > > >R4 R5
> > > > \
> > > > (Area 3)
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I've got the EIGRP(E1) using 172.17.59.0/29.  The OSPF domain is
> > > > using 172.17.59.48/28(S1) and (E2) using 172.17.59.68/30.  As I said
the
> > > > IGRP(E0)
> > > > is assigned 171.68.62.93 w a /26 on R3's E0 interface.  I've read
> > through
> > > > the list thread
> > > > on this but I'm still unable  to see a route to the OSPF from the
IGRP
> > > > domain.
> > > > I'm so tired at this point can anyone shed some light on this for
me...
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Nigel...
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: David FAHED <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Mike McSpedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: fwells12 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: IGRP/OSPF redistribution question.
> > > >
> > > > > I forgot something:
> > > > > If OSPF have a /20 network you can use15 /24 network to advertise
this
> > > > network.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike McSpedon wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding the first approach - I'd be careful to do that only if
the
> > > > routes
> > > > > > in the OSPF domain aren't summarizable into a /24 (e.g., OSPF
has a
> > /20
> > > > > > that needs to be reachable from the IGRP domain).  Regarding the
> > second
> > > > > > approach, since Paige is an ASBR, you'll need to use the
> > > > "summary-address"
> > > > > > not the "area-range" command to summarize the /26 and /28 into
/24s
> > for
> > > > IGRP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > -Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:05 AM

Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Book

2001-01-21 Thread John Huston

Give these guys a try http://www.solutionlabs.com/ and also
www.certificationzone.com .  For some pretty simple ones to get your started
buy the Cisco CCIE All-In-One Lab Study Guide with CDROM.

Good Luck,

JH






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Re: Non-contiguous subnet masks

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I'm old and sometimes get confused.  Why would one want to do something that is not 
really very standard even if they could.  I once used to do a lot of troubleshooting 
for a group that never had time to standardise their network because it was "unique" 
and therefore required all their time to manage it.  It was "unique" because it was 
not standardised.

Don't most big failures occur because we do something others wouldn't?

If so, why would you use no contiguous subnetmasks rather than blockout nicely what 
you need?  Is there a substitute for good design?

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Austalia


On Saturday, January 20, 2001 at 07:19:19 PM, J. Kata wrote:

> Supposedly, non-contiguous subnet masks are
> legal because the rfc's don't restrict their 
> use. Are there any good resources where I can
> read up on this subject? Has someone come across
> their use in the real world?
> 
> And finally, can anyone answer these questions?
> 
> IP: 172.31.100.100
> SM: 255.255.24.164
> 
> What subnet does this ip address belong to?
> How many subnets does this mask support?
> How many hosts does this mask support?
> What is the broadcast address?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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4500 or 4500 M

2001-01-21 Thread Circusnuts

Yet another 4000 question...  How do I know if my 4500 is or is not an =
M.  I have a 4500 with 16 Megs of FLASH & 32 Megs of RAM.  I used to =
know this one, maybe some 4500M owner can shed some light...

Thanks=20
Phil

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Re: ISDN idle-timer

2001-01-21 Thread jenny . mcleod

Erick,
Thanks for passing on the question.

sh is act doesn't help much either.

router1#sh is act

ISDN ACTIVE CALLS

CallCalling  Called   Remote  Seconds Seconds Seconds Charges
TypeNumber   Number   NameUsedLeftIdleUnits/Currency

Out  xx  router2 1890   -   -  0


I'd be interested in getting feedback from others regarding what IOS
versions/platforms show the idle-timer in the 'show dialer' command, and
which don't.

Is anyone else running 12.1 with ISDN?  What platform?  What shows up with
'show dialer'?

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 22/01/2001
09:14 am ---


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Subject:  Re: ISDN idle-timer


Hi,

Have you tried 'show isdn act' ? I haven't done it on
a AS5300 but that shows a listing of active calls with
phone #, time up, idle time remaining, etc.

I also asked your question on the Cisco-NAS mailing
list which is more access-server related.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In IOS 11.2, a 'show dialer' shows the time until
> disconnect, as below...
> Serial2/0:9 - dialer type = ISDN
> Idle timer (120 secs), Fast idle timer (20 secs)
> Wait for carrier (30 secs), Re-enable (15 secs)
> Dialer state is physical layer up
> Interface bound to profile Dialer1
> Time until disconnect 118 secs  <-- idle
> timer value
> Connected to xx (router1)
>
> I find the idle-timer very useful when
> troubleshooting.
> However I am playing with an AS5300 running IOS
> 12.1(4), and it doesn't give the value of the
> idle-timer.
>
> Serial0:30 - dialer type = ISDN
> Idle timer (120 secs), Fast idle timer (20 secs)
> Wait for carrier (30 secs), Re-enable (15 secs)
> Dialer state is data link layer up
> Dial reason: ip (s=x.x.x.x, d=x.x.x.x)
> Interface bound to profile Di2
> Current call connected 00:05:14
> Connected to xx (router2)
>
> I've checked the CCO command reference for 12.1, and
> it still shows the
> 'time until disconnect' line in the doco.  I can't
> see any matching bugs on
> Bug Search.
> Has anyone come across this before?  Bug, or
> 'feature'?  Is it restricted
> to the AS5300?
> And... has anyone found this information in any
> other command??
>
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> JMcL
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Re: Terminal serial to host cable

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

Did you use the "BLACK" Cisco cable?  If so look at this.  It has a roll over.  
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 become 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1  say using pins 3 & 6 for TXD RXD, 4 & 5 sig 
gnd,  2 and 6 for RTS, CTS or what ever you have a cross over in the cable.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


n Friday, January 19, 2001 at 01:57:30 PM, Jonathan Hays wrote:

> I recently connected my Cisco terminal setup (a laptop with a DB9-RJ45
> adapter on Serial A) to a UNIX workstation with the gender adapters
> shown in the ASCII diagram below. I was surprised that it worked llike
> this because I expected a crossover of TX and RX, but when I pulled the
> adapters apart and followed the wires from end-to-end it appears there
> is no crossover. Pin numbers shown are those stamped on the connectors.
> 
> Laptop Workstation
>DB9-RJ45RJ45-DB25
> tx 2   6 ---straight---62  tx
> rx 3   3 ---through33  rx
> cable
> 
> Shouldn't TX and RX cross over? Why does this work?
> 
> Sorry about the slightly off-topic post.
> 
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Re: ospf study question

2001-01-21 Thread Erick B.


OSPF will run on LAN, WAN, loopbacks, dialer, tunnel,
etc interfaces. 

--- Charles Paver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi.  Was wondering what interface i could or would
> put
> ospf on, for testing in a home lab environment! 
> Such
> as, can I run ospf from eth0 to serial1 with 2
> different routers, both on same network?  Anyone
> know
> if it is limited to serial interfaces?
> Thanks!


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Re: Strange Router CPU Utilisation

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I had several goes at this on Saturday but my outgoing mail was failing.

I have found this sort of thing can happen when you get a nasty liitle routing loop 
and of a "stuck in active".  One way to find what is happening could be to do a "show 
proc cpu" note what processes are happening,  wait a minute or so and do it again note 
what is happening, wait the same period of time and repeat the procedure.  Then 
compare each to see if you can identify what prcess is doing the damage. This is made 
much easier if you baseline you cpu utilisation.  That is,  when things are going fie 
do as above for a comarison of when it is failing.

If things are really bad you may need to do the above from the console.  If so, check 
what is going through the console and note any messages fly through there.  This may 
indeed be your problem.  Once you know what is be sent to the console do a "no logging 
console" and check the cpu.  With any luck the errors going to the console will be in 
the log.  "show log".

It often takes some time to find but the methods above might help.  The hardest is the 
nasty little loop.  (Which can be across Nations).

Hope this helps,

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Austalia


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> Hello, gang.
> I'd like to know if anyone has seen this behaviour of a 4505 (v.11.2) where
> it is able to handle heavy traffic throughout the day with no more than a
> 50% cpu utilisation max but shows a few periods of spikes up to 98% when
> there is no WAN traffic say 4am or 9pm. These spikes show up as "outgoing"
> traffic which lasts ~15 to 20 mins on MRTG chart. Nothing shows up on the
> syslogs. I once tried sniffer before the router "crashed" and all i saw was
> a build up of ICMP and "other" packets. My guess is this is because the
> router is not responding to client requests thus it keeps getting a barage
> of "ICMP". This only shows up on the ethernet ports, i.e. coming in from e0,
> out e1 in reference to MRTG.
> Any ideas would help. Thanks.
> 
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CCIE Lab Preparation Book

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

Dear All,

I currently have a study group with about 6 members , we are in desperate 
need of lab materials that we can practice in order to get us ready for our 
exams. i.e. setting up atm, voip, frame really, token ring, etc. If anyone 
knows ant good books or lab guides that can help us it would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks in Advance,

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Re: cabletron

2001-01-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

In my experience most of the top known companies are good.  

The dificulty with Cabletron is that almost each series has a different command 
structure.  The ElS1000 is not remotely like a SmartSwitch 9000 which looks nothing 
like the SSR's.  But once configured they work ok.

What I don't like and a number of machines from various  are guilty of it (or maybe I 
like about Cisco) is when you do a clear on the counters in a number of modles this 
only happens until you log out.  So if you decide to clear the counters and come back 
later and you have left the machine even timed out your couters are back to what they 
were.  This make trouble shooting a bit of a pain.  

Be wary of the autoneg as they can produce some horrible stuff.

www.enterasys.com/support/manuals/  is a must for Cabletron stuff.

Just some thoughts.

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Sunday, January 21, 2001 at 02:08:01 PM, Craig Columbus wrote:

> Don't get me started.  I just took over a network with Cabletron 
> routers/switches, mainly 200s, 600s, 700s, and 2000s.  Now, this is just my 
> opinion, but they're better suited to be doorstops than 
> routers/switches.  They're a pain to configure and manage and they're not 
> exceptionally fast or stable.  I'm removing them from the network as fast 
> as my budget will allow.
> In my opinion, Cisco products (well, with the possible exception of the 
> Cisco 700 series routers), are far superior.
> 
> Just my $0.02...your mileage may vary.
> 
> Craig
> 
> At 04:03 PM 1/21/2001 +, you wrote:
> >Can someone give me some feedback on Cabletron hubs/switches.  It is good,
> >bad, advantages, disadvantages and how it really compares to the Cisco
> >Catalyst line of switches.  If you have cabletron switches would you upgrade
> >to Cisco Catalyst switches or would you remain with cabletron.  Please
> >responsd to this email address.  Thanks.
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Re: ospf study question

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

Charles
  Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP is a great book. I would also look at Cisco's 
website and see how this is configured and see if you find anything showing 
configuration of OSPF in interface config mode. If you pay close attention 
to how OSPF is configured on the router you can understand that it is 
configured for particular networks (and in OSPF areas). So then you can 
figure the router doesn't care too much about which lower layer protocol is 
carrying IP as long as the routing info gets to everyone in the domains 
necessary. There are wierd acceptions to be aware of, but they are how this 
protocol instructs the SPF routers to communicate routing info in certain 
situations like in frame multipoint (because OSPF tries to use a Designated 
router in many cases to cut down on bandwidth overhead from update messages 
in a meshed network). Get crazy and try it out.

>>>Brian

>From: Charles Paver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Charles Paver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ospf study question
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:40:09 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hi.  Was wondering what interface i could or would put
>ospf on, for testing in a home lab environment!  Such
>as, can I run ospf from eth0 to serial1 with 2
>different routers, both on same network?  Anyone know
>if it is limited to serial interfaces?
>Thanks!
>
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Re: Kindly Request

2001-01-21 Thread Traceroute

Bravo! LOL
- Original Message -
From: "hal9001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rasik Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kindly Request


> I am absolutely sure that being an intelligent and resourceful type of lad
> you will be able to set the machine you E-Mailed this on to wake you up
> without any help from this list.
>
> GOODBYE
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rasik Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:33 PM
> Subject: Kindly Request
>
>
> > =20
> > 22 January 2001,
> >
> >  Dear Sir / Madam,
> >
> >  My name is Rasika Perera. I am a 24 years old Sri Lankan boy. I am a =
> > school leaver and unemployed. I am interested in computer field and Art.
=
> >
> >
> > I like to follow a computer course and learn English Language to speak =
> > and write well.
> >
> > But I have some financial difficulties. I haven't enough money to =
> > complete my studies. I have a brother and a sister. They are students.
=20
> >
> > Dear Sir/Madam please send me a Alarm Clock.=20
> >
> > Thanking you
> >
> > =20
> >
> > Yours Obediently,
> >
> > =20
> >
> > Rasika Perea.   =20
> >
> > =20
> >
> > E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Address: No 7/3, Library Road,Chilaw,Sri Lanka
> >
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Re: Kindly Request

2001-01-21 Thread hal9001

I am absolutely sure that being an intelligent and resourceful type of lad
you will be able to set the machine you E-Mailed this on to wake you up
without any help from this list.

GOODBYE

Karl
- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: Kindly Request


> =20
> 22 January 2001,
>
>  Dear Sir / Madam,
>
>  My name is Rasika Perera. I am a 24 years old Sri Lankan boy. I am a =
> school leaver and unemployed. I am interested in computer field and Art. =
>
>
> I like to follow a computer course and learn English Language to speak =
> and write well.
>
> But I have some financial difficulties. I haven't enough money to =
> complete my studies. I have a brother and a sister. They are students. =20
>
> Dear Sir/Madam please send me a Alarm Clock.=20
>
> Thanking you
>
> =20
>
> Yours Obediently,
>
> =20
>
> Rasika Perea.   =20
>
> =20
>
> E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Address: No 7/3, Library Road,Chilaw,Sri Lanka
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ospf study question

2001-01-21 Thread Charles Paver

Hi.  Was wondering what interface i could or would put
ospf on, for testing in a home lab environment!  Such
as, can I run ospf from eth0 to serial1 with 2
different routers, both on same network?  Anyone know
if it is limited to serial interfaces?
Thanks!


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RE: Timed Access Lists

2001-01-21 Thread Timothy Metz

yes, you are absolutely right, and that's what I did. No one else responded
to my message but these timed access lists are the best thing since sliced
bread I no longer need to be concerned with my daughter compromising Net
Nanny (which she is quite good at) even with her quite liberal surfing
privileges. Here's the config in case you or anyone else is interested:

ip access-list extended Michelle_Limit
 permit ip host 192.168.0.1 any
 permit ip host 192.168.0.2 any
 permit ip host 192.168.0.3 any time-range fri-evening
 permit ip host 192.168.0.3 any time-range sat-evening
 permit ip host 192.168.0.3 any time-range sun-evening
 permit ip host 192.168.0.3 any time-range weekdays
 permit ip host 192.168.0.3 any time-range weekend

time-range fri-evening
 periodic Friday 19:00 to 21:30

time-range sat-evening
 periodic Saturday 18:30 to 21:30

time-range sun-evening
 periodic Sunday 18:30 to 20:30

time-range weekdays
 periodic weekdays 7:30 to 8:00
 periodic weekdays 15:00 to 17:30
 periodic weekdays 19:00 to 20:30

time-range weekend
 periodic weekend 7:30 to 10:00
 periodic weekend 12:30 to 17:00



Tim


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Gareth Hinton
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Timed Access Lists
>
>
> Timothy,
>
> Would it not be better to use permits first, so that it does process them
> all.
> Then use a deny if you want to log exceptions, or otherwise leave it off.
>
> Gareth
>
>
> "Timothy Metz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Has anyone ever used timed access lists?
> >
> > I'm wondering if I can specify multiple times and days and still process
> > through the list or will I exit the list after a test condition is
> > compared... This is getting hard to verbalize but I'll give it a shot...
> >
> > ie:
> >
> > I want to limit www browsing on one time schedule during the week and a
> > different time schedule during the weekend.
> >
> > Setting up two time ranges is not a problem
> >
> > Now I need to write the access list
> >
> > deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekdays
> > deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekends
> > permit ip any any
> >
> > will this work or will http traffic exit the list after the first test
> > condition?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tim
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Re: 3102 for sale

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

This ain't EBAY.

Just kidding
>>>Brian

>From: Ben Hockenhull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ben Hockenhull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 3102 for sale
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:16:53 -0600
>
>Hi there,
>
>I'm selling off part of my lab, consisting of 1 fully loaded Cisco 3102
>router.  It has been used in my lab for the last several years, and works
>perfectly.  I'm selling it because I need to buy some voice hardware and
>need money.
>
>The router comes with:
>
>8 meg of flash
>16 meg of dram
>1 AUI ethernet interface
>1 synchronous serial interface
>12.0.9 Enterprise Plus loaded
>
>I'm also including the following cables:
>
>1 X.21 serial cable
>1 V.35 DTE serial cable
>Console Cable
>Power Cord
>
>There's a bit of cosmetic damage on the case, but the router is
>otherwise in great shape and works perfectly and is guaranteed
>against DOA.
>
>Considering the flash, dram and cables, I'd like $400.00 for this guy.
>You pay shipping via your carrier of choice.
>
>Please contact me privately if you're interested.
>
>Ben
>
>
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RE: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2~

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Lodwick

Eric you should check out these books, too. These are my favorites:

Radia Perlman's Interconnections- (helps you stop for a minute and tear into 
how things really work in a non-vendor specific view- read front to back 
read's really nice )

Andrew Tannenbaum- (kindof scary book, but is nice to have around as the 
real bottom line. Awfully dry kindof like reading a VCR manual, but nothing 
is left out)

Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP first edition- (for RIPv1&2, EIGRP, OSPF)

Sam Halabi's BGP- (get crazy with BGP4, I haven't touched Jeff Doyle's new 
book, but you can be confident (I believe) if you learn what is in Halabi's 
book on BGP you have surely covered what will be required of you on the CCIE 
)

Caslow's CCIE second edition (wonderfull book for referrence at the practice 
lab)

CCNP BCRAN Osbourne\McGraw Hill (for stuff like comression & frame relay 
traffic shaping)

Exam Cram CCIE- (Good for the magazine rack in the bathroom)

>>>Brian


>From: Luis Ignacio Zas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Luis Ignacio Zas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:17:56 -0500
>
>According with the Cisco Press website http://www.ciscopress.com , the
>publish date would be February 2001. Note that the original date was Aug
>2000, so I wouldn't hold my breath on the Feb date.
>
>
>At 08:03 AM 1/20/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >According to Amazon, Doyle's volume 2 has a 6 week lead time. Has anyone
> >actually seen this one on the shelves yet?
> >
> >Halabi is remarkably clear reading. But it never hurts to have a second 
>way
> >of looking at things.
> >
> >Doyle vol 1 is definitely a must. I would add Slattery / Burton Advanced 
>IP
> >routing in Cisco Networks for the wealth of examples and router outputs.
> >
> >One must read Caslow in the frame of mind in which it is intended. Caslow
> >expects that you already know the basics, and now you want to start 
>thinking
> >like a CCIE. It is a book about problem solving, not a book about 
>learning
> >fundamentals.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
>Eric
> >Gunn
> >Sent:   Saturday, January 20, 2001 7:30 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject:CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am looking at obtaining the books that are "Required reading" for the
> >CCIE lab, according to www.ccbootcamp.com. I have heard great things 
>about
> >their perpetration labs and plan to buy them as soon as I can get my lab
> >pieced together from optsys.
> >
> >The books listed are:
> >
> >Internet Routing Architectures, Bassam Halabi
> >CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volume I, Jeff Doyle
> >Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIE's, Caslow
> >Cisco Lan Switching (CCIE professional development)
> >Cisco Catalyst Lan Switching Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi
> >
> >
> >I noticed the TCP/IP book by Doyle has a Volume 1 and Volume 2. The first
> >book  seems to be the foundation book while the second one goes into BGP.
> >Multicasting, etc.
> >
> >The Architecture book by Halabib is a must have, from everyone that has
> >read it. It  seems to be heavy in BGP more than other exterior routing
> >protocols. Is Doyle vol 2 worth reading back to front or are their better
> >reads one the list for that information?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Eric Gunn
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Kindly Request

2001-01-21 Thread Rasik Dean

=20
22 January 2001,

 Dear Sir / Madam,

 My name is Rasika Perera. I am a 24 years old Sri Lankan boy. I am a =
school leaver and unemployed. I am interested in computer field and Art. =


I like to follow a computer course and learn English Language to speak =
and write well.

But I have some financial difficulties. I haven't enough money to =
complete my studies. I have a brother and a sister. They are students. =20

Dear Sir/Madam please send me a Alarm Clock.=20

Thanking you

=20

Yours Obediently,

=20

Rasika Perea.   =20

=20

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Address: No 7/3, Library Road,Chilaw,Sri Lanka


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OT weekend funnie! Old Navy "Lore"

2001-01-21 Thread Natasha

 Subject:  Brass Monkey

 Every sailing ship had to have cannons for protection. Cannons of
 the times required round iron cannonballs. The master wanted to store
the
 cannonballs such that they could be of instant use when needed, yet
 not roll around the gun deck.

 The solution was to stack them up in a square-based pyramid next to
 the cannon. The top level of the stack had one ball, the next level
 down had four, the next had nine, the next had sixteen, and so on. Four
 levels would provide a stack of 30 cannonballs.

 The only real problem was how to keep the bottom level from sliding
 out from under the weight of the higher levels. To do this, they
 devised a small brass plate ("brass monkey") with one rounded
indentation
 for each cannonball in the bottom layer.

 Brass was used because the cannonballs wouldn't rust to the "brass
 monkey," but would rust to an iron one. When temperature falls,
 brass contracts in size faster than iron. As it got cold on the gun
 decks, the indentations in the brass monkey would get smaller than the
iron cannonballs they were holding.

 If the temperature got cold enough, the bottom layer would pop out
 of the indentations spilling the entire pyramid over the deck. 
Thus it was, quite literally, 
"cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey."

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3102 for sale

2001-01-21 Thread Ben Hockenhull

Hi there,

I'm selling off part of my lab, consisting of 1 fully loaded Cisco 3102
router.  It has been used in my lab for the last several years, and works
perfectly.  I'm selling it because I need to buy some voice hardware and
need money.

The router comes with:

8 meg of flash
16 meg of dram
1 AUI ethernet interface
1 synchronous serial interface
12.0.9 Enterprise Plus loaded

I'm also including the following cables:

1 X.21 serial cable
1 V.35 DTE serial cable
Console Cable
Power Cord

There's a bit of cosmetic damage on the case, but the router is
otherwise in great shape and works perfectly and is guaranteed
against DOA.

Considering the flash, dram and cables, I'd like $400.00 for this guy.
You pay shipping via your carrier of choice.

Please contact me privately if you're interested.

Ben


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Re: Timed Access Lists

2001-01-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

Timothy,

Would it not be better to use permits first, so that it does process them
all.
Then use a deny if you want to log exceptions, or otherwise leave it off.

Gareth


"Timothy Metz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Has anyone ever used timed access lists?
>
> I'm wondering if I can specify multiple times and days and still process
> through the list or will I exit the list after a test condition is
> compared... This is getting hard to verbalize but I'll give it a shot...
>
> ie:
>
> I want to limit www browsing on one time schedule during the week and a
> different time schedule during the weekend.
>
> Setting up two time ranges is not a problem
>
> Now I need to write the access list
>
> deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekdays
> deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekends
> permit ip any any
>
> will this work or will http traffic exit the list after the first test
> condition?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
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RE: CEF or round robin

2001-01-21 Thread Steve Smith

Changed back to CEF and it is balanced on packets sent and received
withing 20 or so. Seem good to me.

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:31 PM
To: Steve Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CEF or round robin


So what was the problem you found that was effecting traffic negatively?

CEF does not necessarily "load share" equally across two paths.  It can
be
set up to do "per source/destination" or "per packet"
Per source/destination has the usual problems - all traffic can end up
going
across one link. Per packet will indeed share traffic more or less
equally
across two links.

My reading indicates that CEF per packet is actually the way to go if
one
wants to balance traffic equally across two paths.

( Cisco press book Network Design and Case Studies )
( BTW anyone else think this book is not all that good? )

HTH

Chuck

-Original Message-
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Of
Steve Smith
Sent:   Friday, January 19, 2001 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:CEF or round robin

OK gang I need to opinions.

We set up 2 point-to-point Ts to a client running CEF. Everything seemed
to work fine, speed was good, packets per T was about equal. Then we had
a switch go bad. We replaced it but still had a sluggish network. Some
of our techs came in from another office and together we found the
problem.

While looking around they saw CEF per-packet was set on the 2 Ts. They
informed our CEO that was really wrong and should not be ran that way.
They said "round robin is the only real way to utilize 2 Ts". I say  #
*!

Any opinions?

Thanks in advance,
Steve

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Re: cabletron

2001-01-21 Thread Craig Columbus

Don't get me started.  I just took over a network with Cabletron 
routers/switches, mainly 200s, 600s, 700s, and 2000s.  Now, this is just my 
opinion, but they're better suited to be doorstops than 
routers/switches.  They're a pain to configure and manage and they're not 
exceptionally fast or stable.  I'm removing them from the network as fast 
as my budget will allow.
In my opinion, Cisco products (well, with the possible exception of the 
Cisco 700 series routers), are far superior.

Just my $0.02...your mileage may vary.

Craig

At 04:03 PM 1/21/2001 +, you wrote:
>Can someone give me some feedback on Cabletron hubs/switches.  It is good,
>bad, advantages, disadvantages and how it really compares to the Cisco
>Catalyst line of switches.  If you have cabletron switches would you upgrade
>to Cisco Catalyst switches or would you remain with cabletron.  Please
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Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him

2001-01-21 Thread Gareth Hinton

Pradeep (Protocol Guru),

Apology or not, for those that have watched the group for a long time, they
will recognise your blunt, unhelpful, ignorant replies.
This is not the first, you get flamed and then you apologise because the
majority disagrees with you.
Get a life - you're just a smart .
You may need some help one day, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

Kindest Regards,

Gareth


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> The only thing I can give you off line is a kick on your
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might do it better.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
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BGP communty question

2001-01-21 Thread Field, Brian


Scenario:

- BGP config for a neighbor has send-community attribute set.
(neighbor 1.2.3.4 send-community)

- A following "out" route-map is define for this neighbor.
(neighbor 1.2.3.4 route-map TEST out)

- there is no "set community" information defined in the TEST route
map.

Question:

Does any community information get sent to this peer?

Thanks
Brian

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Job Posting - STOP IT!

2001-01-21 Thread Paul Borghese

This is not the correct form to be discussing Job related issues!

Please post on the Jobs list.

Paul
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:57 AM
Subject: Job Posting


> I am searching for a Sr. Network Managing Engineer with a CCIE =
> Certification (completed written and lab). This position is located in =
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>
> Network Management Engineers will work with Implementation Engineers to =
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> solutions in a consulting environment. We require at least 2 years of
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> enterprise wide level. Skill requirements include a solid foundation in
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> required. Consulting experience a plus.
>
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> stock options for these positions are between 15-25,000 shares.
> Salary is between 125-150k (depending on experience).
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Sacramento/Placer County Cisco Users Group (SPCCUG) Meeting:Pass The News!

2001-01-21 Thread Sean Odom

We are back from out Holiday Break and the SPCCUG has an exciting year
planned!  Our beta web site for the group created by Jon Young/Intel is
almost operational!  If you want to see the work in progress visit
http://www.cordels.com/cert/index.html  Eventually the DNS will be
www.cisco-cert.org. Our membership grew from 53 at the beginning of last
year to 205 on our mailing list as of today!  Wow! Meeting twice a month
became too much of a problem for planning so we will go back to the old way
of having one long meeting each month from 6:30PM until 9:30 PM on the
second Thursday of each month for both CCNA level and CCNP level members.
Here is the next meeting information:

Next Meeting:
   February 8th, 2001 at 6:30PM
Location:
  Nerdbooks (www.nerdbooks.com)
911 Washington Boulevard, Roseville
Directions:
From Sacramento take 80 West
Exit the second Douglas Exit and go over the freeway
Make a right on Judah
Make a right on Oak
Make a left on Washington (NerdBooks on the left about two miles
down.)
Speaker:
Coriolis/Sybex Author/Cisco Instructor Sean Odom
CCNA TOPIC:
 Configuring PPP and CHAP authentication over Serial links
CCNP TOPICS:
 Redistribution Of Routing Protocols 101
 BGP Part 1 of 3
(equipment will be provided)
 -->You may bring your own router as well if it has two serial ports.  I
have plenty of DTE/DCE cables I will be bringing.
 -->Bring a laptop and Hyperterminal if you have one!

Other Topics: Special Interest Group (SIG group leaders) We need volunteers


GROUP BY-LAWS
The cost is $5 per meeting,  refreshments are provided.
  a.. No prerequisites are required to join the group.
  b.. Each meeting consists of a CCNA Presentation, a CCNP/CCDA
Presentation, and a Real World Presentation.
  c.. At the end of the meeting prizes are awarded from participating vendor
donations.
  d.. Vendors are never allowed to advertise during any Technical
presentation.
  e.. Presentations are always technical presentation and are never sales
presentations.
  f.. Vendors may present material at the end of after the technical
presentations
  g.. The focus of the group is to obtain certifications, Cisco technical
and real world working knowledge.
  h.. Group member consist of those attempting their CCNA/CCDA, CCNP/CCDP to
those attempting their CCIE.
  i.. We have a drawings during the meeting.  Many of the gifts are
purchased by the groups fund.  This way we are not soliciting anyone.
  j.. Our group reviews study material that are important to know for the
exam and also to provide better understanding of the process of working with
Cisco routers & switches.
  k.. A Real World Presentation is brought into the discussion group.
  l.. The cost is $5 per meeting,  refreshments are provided.

  Are group attendance averages between 35 to 50 professionals during the
meeting.  We meet once a month. The 2nd Thursday day @ 6:30
through 8:30 p.m.  We do request a $5.00 fee from the members, so that we
can purchase beverages and invest into the group.

We have a committee group that meets on a regular bases and we are currently
working on a web page, so that we can provide more beneficial information
to our members.

The following is a small section that is announced regularly with our email
to the group.
  The Sacramento Placer County Cisco Users Group (SPCCUG) consist of many
professional working on advancing their
Cisco skills by attending study group meetings.  Majority are working
closely with Cisco products and have chosen
to become certified.  We also have students from the surrounding ATEC
schools attending these meetings.

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RE: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2

2001-01-21 Thread Luis Ignacio Zas

According with the Cisco Press website http://www.ciscopress.com , the 
publish date would be February 2001. Note that the original date was Aug 
2000, so I wouldn't hold my breath on the Feb date.


At 08:03 AM 1/20/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>According to Amazon, Doyle's volume 2 has a 6 week lead time. Has anyone
>actually seen this one on the shelves yet?
>
>Halabi is remarkably clear reading. But it never hurts to have a second way
>of looking at things.
>
>Doyle vol 1 is definitely a must. I would add Slattery / Burton Advanced IP
>routing in Cisco Networks for the wealth of examples and router outputs.
>
>One must read Caslow in the frame of mind in which it is intended. Caslow
>expects that you already know the basics, and now you want to start thinking
>like a CCIE. It is a book about problem solving, not a book about learning
>fundamentals.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric
>Gunn
>Sent:   Saturday, January 20, 2001 7:30 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2
>
>Hello,
>
>I am looking at obtaining the books that are "Required reading" for the
>CCIE lab, according to www.ccbootcamp.com. I have heard great things about
>their perpetration labs and plan to buy them as soon as I can get my lab
>pieced together from optsys.
>
>The books listed are:
>
>Internet Routing Architectures, Bassam Halabi
>CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volume I, Jeff Doyle
>Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIE's, Caslow
>Cisco Lan Switching (CCIE professional development)
>Cisco Catalyst Lan Switching Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas Rossi
>
>
>I noticed the TCP/IP book by Doyle has a Volume 1 and Volume 2. The first
>book  seems to be the foundation book while the second one goes into BGP.
>Multicasting, etc.
>
>The Architecture book by Halabib is a must have, from everyone that has
>read it. It  seems to be heavy in BGP more than other exterior routing
>protocols. Is Doyle vol 2 worth reading back to front or are their better
>reads one the list for that information?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Eric Gunn
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Re: BSCN

2001-01-21 Thread Georg Naggies

after doyle+halabi there will be no more gaps - you can save your money for
the other book
thats my advice, i passed with 894/1000

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> I'm studying for Routing as well.  I don't have the ISBNs for these, but
if
> you want a good understanding of the material you should pick up Bassam
> Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture, and Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP.
> I'm presently working my way through the Doyle book, and find the reading
> both easy and informative.  I've started Halabi's book and I'm a bit lost
> with all the NAP's and NSF's of the overview, but it seems to be just as
> informative.  I think these are probably two very good texts to read.  I
do
> plan on getting the Cisco Press BSCN book just to fill in any gaps for the
> exam.  Good luck.
>
> ~Seth~
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mathias Kenfack-Tabakem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:29 PM
> Subject: BSCN
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I need your help. I'll will be taking the BSCN sometimes in Feb. this
> year.
> > Could you please advise me on which preparation kit to use? Has anyone
> used
> > CCNP: Routing Study Guide by Todd Lammle, Sean Odom, Kevin Wallace ISBN:
> > 0782127126 ?
> > if yes how do you rate it ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Mathias
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cabletron

2001-01-21 Thread SH Wesson

Can someone give me some feedback on Cabletron hubs/switches.  It is good, 
bad, advantages, disadvantages and how it really compares to the Cisco 
Catalyst line of switches.  If you have cabletron switches would you upgrade 
to Cisco Catalyst switches or would you remain with cabletron.  Please 
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cabletron

2001-01-21 Thread SH Wesson

Can someone give me some feedback on Cabletron hubs/switches.  It is good, 
bad, advantages, disadvantages and how it really compares to the Cisco 
Catalyst line of switches.  If you have cabletron switches would you upgrade 
to Cisco Catalyst switches or would you remain with cabletron.  Please 
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Re: kick:The ugly Pakistani SAIF@MATIN.NET.PK

2001-01-21 Thread hal9001

GirlsGirlsput the hockey sticks down and lets get back to the
lessons in progress!  Really have we no manners any longer...you'll just
get sent out of class!

Karl
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Subject: Re: kick:The ugly Pakistani [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> 'like WE have been doing to THEM always'??
> regardless of your level of cisco expertise - you have shown yourself to
be
> an embarassment.
> WE do not LOVE you. I am neither Indian nor Pakistani by the way, but I am
> laughing at the suggestion that pathetic weasels like you and your
pakistani
> friend will one day configure networks on whom people's jobs may depend
on.
> Why don't you BOTH just shut up and just go away. Leave the intolerance to
> the stupid, or better still, join them.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: kick:The ugly Pakistani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:24:52 -0800
> >
> >Jon,
> >1. You are right -Racism is ugly.The Pakistani - Saif Sahaab ( Sahaab
===>
> >Sir ) deserves a kick ( on his front, like we have been doing to them
> >always ) not Jim.
> >
> >2. Jon- I agree and most do, to your point as it is a known fact.But what
> >our friend Jim wants is a  plan to convince his VP to get him an aided
CCIE
> >training.
> >
> >Perhaps his company does not have a policy like the one you mentioned in
> >place.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From:Jon Krabbenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:01:32 -0800
> >To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him
> >
> >
> >Now who should be kicked??!!
> >Racism is an ugly and intolerable thing
> >
> >Jim In answer to your question, my company pays 100% for departmentally
> >related training. For me they paid for my Cisco and Sun training. For non
> >related training, (anything, any subject), they pay 80% up $4000 per
year.
> >You may need to sign a term of employment agreement were you will be
> >responsible for repaying a % if you quit within the term.
> >
> >Hope that helps!
> >
> >Jon
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Saif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:42 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him
> >
> >
> >Indian Jerk
> >
> >Pradeep Kumar wrote:
> >
> > > Can we expect something intelligent.
> > > The only thing I can give you off line is a kick on your
> >backside.Actually, I dont have time for it.Give me your VP's mail id. He
> >might do it better.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From:Jim Healis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:35:42 -0800
> > > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Business Proposal for CCIE lab
> > >
> > > I would appreciate hearing feedback from others on the proposal I am
> > > planning to present to the VP of my department for the plan of paying
> > > for my studying for the CCIE lab.
> > > Anyone interested in helping me, contact me off-list.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
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Re: Greater Philadelphia Cisco Users Group

2001-01-21 Thread Mustafa Makhdoom

I am interested in joining too ...
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>
> If anyone is interested joining the very early stages of the Greater
> Philadelphia Cisco Users Group please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Early
> conversations with probable sponsors are very encouraging and I forsee
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No Subject

2001-01-21 Thread Alem Denis

I need help.

I have a router AS5300 at a central site and a 1601 at a remote site
dailing into to  the central site. When you do a telnet to the remote site, 
it takes long for you cannot authenticate. But if you use the local database 
to authenticate, it is ok.  What do you guys think is the problem


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Re: BRI interface not calling

2001-01-21 Thread Nigel Taylor

Hans,
 What is your "debug" commands telling you.  For ISDN I find
this tool invaluable.  I looked at the configs you provided and everything
looks good from I can tell.  Turn on "debug ids events" "debug ISDN
q921(tells us what's happening on L2)" and "debug ISDN q931(for L3)" and
only make attempts to ping  to the connections you're troubleshooting(i.e
ping the remote bri interfaces, 10.66.1.2/3/10/11) Capture it and maybe
you'll get some answers.  Post it to the group/and send it to me direct.

HTH or at least gets you some answers...

Nigel..

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:17 AM
Subject: BRI interface not calling


> Hello colleagues,
>
> I have a problem with two BRI interfaces on my Cisco 2610:
> On both interfaces, I have static dialer maps configured to two separate
> locations, so the total is 4 locations to be dialed, two on BRI1/0, and
two
> on BRI1/1. Th problem is that two calls at a maximum are made, and the
> remaining two connections are not made. I can make one call on BRI1/0 and
> one on BRI1/1, or two on BRI1/0, or two on BRI1/1, but never four at the
> same time. I have verified that all locations are reachable, but it seems
> that only two ISDN calls are allowed at the same time. I am unable to
figure
> it out; I have attached the router config, maybe you have an idea ?
>
> MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347#sh run
> Building configuration...
>
> Current configuration:
> !
> ! Last configuration change at 11:54:01 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
> ! NVRAM config last updated at 10:22:29 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
> !
> version 11.3
> service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
> service timestamps log datetime localtime
> service password-encryption
> !
> hostname MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$I.82$PNonsJvJ7Mjydwhw71IbI0
> !
> username MTDP_Nemesvamos_29348 password 7 01040554565A
> username MTDP_Eislingen_29354 password 7 10590A490846
> username MTDP_StEtienne_29350 password 7 095B4D591454
> username MTDP_Valmont_29349 password 7 0211070B0657
> ip subnet-zero
> no ip source-route
> no ip finger
> no ip bootp server
> no ip domain-lookup
> ipx routing 00b0.6456.6f20
> isdn switch-type basic-net3
> clock timezone GMT 0
> !
> !
> process-max-time 200
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
> description connected to MTD Saarbruecken,DE LAN
> ip address 10.66.2.1 255.255.254.0
> ip access-group 190 in
> no ip redirects
> no ip directed-broadcast
> no ip proxy-arp
> bridge-group 1
> !
> interface Serial0/0
> description MTD Saarbruecken,DE MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04528
> no ip address
> encapsulation frame-relay
> bandwidth 512
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> interface Serial0/0.22 point-to-point
> description connected to Root_Beer
> ip address 10.1.200.30 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 22
> !
> interface Serial0/0.31 point-to-point
> description DLCI 32 to MTD Nemesvamos,HU DLCI 77 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04175
> ip address 10.66.0.25 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 32
> !
> interface Serial0/0.33 point-to-point
> description DLCI 33 to MTD StEtienne,FR DLCI 34 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B05935
> ip address 10.66.0.9 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 33
> !
> interface Serial0/0.35 point-to-point
> description DLCI 35 to MTD Valmont,FR DLCI 36 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B06090
> ip address 10.66.0.5 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 35
> bridge-group 1
> !
> interface Serial0/0.37 point-to-point
> description DLCI 37 to MTD Eislingen,DE DLCI 38 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04530
> ip address 10.66.0.1 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 64
> traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 64000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 37
> !
> interface Serial0/0.39 point-to-point
> description DLCI 39 to MTD Marchtrenk,AU DLCI 40 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B22520
> ip address 10.66.0.13 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 39
> !
> interface Serial0/0.41 point-to-point
> description DLCI 41 to MTD Falkoping,SE DLCI 42 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B13531
> ip address 10.66.0.17 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 41
> !
> interface Serial0/0.43 point-to-point
> description DLCI 43 to MTD Randers,DK DLCI MCIWorldcom CKT W0A99203
> ip address 10.66.0.21 255.255.255.252
> no arp frame-relay
> bandwidth 32
> traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
> traffic-shape adaptive 32000
> frame-relay interface-dlci 43
> !
> interface Serial0/0.983 

Re: kick:The ugly Pakistani SAIF@MATIN.NET.PK

2001-01-21 Thread alex campbell

'like WE have been doing to THEM always'??
regardless of your level of cisco expertise - you have shown yourself to be 
an embarassment.
WE do not LOVE you. I am neither Indian nor Pakistani by the way, but I am 
laughing at the suggestion that pathetic weasels like you and your pakistani 
friend will one day configure networks on whom people's jobs may depend on.
Why don't you BOTH just shut up and just go away. Leave the intolerance to 
the stupid, or better still, join them.




>From: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Pradeep Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: kick:The ugly Pakistani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:24:52 -0800
>
>Jon,
>1. You are right -Racism is ugly.The Pakistani - Saif Sahaab ( Sahaab ===> 
>Sir ) deserves a kick ( on his front, like we have been doing to them 
>always ) not Jim.
>
>2. Jon- I agree and most do, to your point as it is a known fact.But what 
>our friend Jim wants is a  plan to convince his VP to get him an aided CCIE 
>training.
>
>Perhaps his company does not have a policy like the one you mentioned in 
>place.
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:Jon Krabbenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:01:32 -0800
>To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him
>
>
>Now who should be kicked??!!
>Racism is an ugly and intolerable thing
>
>Jim In answer to your question, my company pays 100% for departmentally
>related training. For me they paid for my Cisco and Sun training. For non
>related training, (anything, any subject), they pay 80% up $4000 per year.
>You may need to sign a term of employment agreement were you will be
>responsible for repaying a % if you quit within the term.
>
>Hope that helps!
>
>Jon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Saif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:42 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him
>
>
>Indian Jerk
>
>Pradeep Kumar wrote:
>
> > Can we expect something intelligent.
> > The only thing I can give you off line is a kick on your
>backside.Actually, I dont have time for it.Give me your VP's mail id. He
>might do it better.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:Jim Healis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:35:42 -0800
> > To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Business Proposal for CCIE lab
> >
> > I would appreciate hearing feedback from others on the proposal I am
> > planning to present to the VP of my department for the plan of paying
> > for my studying for the CCIE lab.
> > Anyone interested in helping me, contact me off-list.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jim
> >
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BRI interface not calling

2001-01-21 Thread Hans Stout

Hello colleagues,

I have a problem with two BRI interfaces on my Cisco 2610:
On both interfaces, I have static dialer maps configured to two separate 
locations, so the total is 4 locations to be dialed, two on BRI1/0, and two 
on BRI1/1. Th problem is that two calls at a maximum are made, and the 
remaining two connections are not made. I can make one call on BRI1/0 and 
one on BRI1/1, or two on BRI1/0, or two on BRI1/1, but never four at the 
same time. I have verified that all locations are reachable, but it seems 
that only two ISDN calls are allowed at the same time. I am unable to figure 
it out; I have attached the router config, maybe you have an idea ?

MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
! Last configuration change at 11:54:01 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
! NVRAM config last updated at 10:22:29 GMT Sun Jan 21 2001
!
version 11.3
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
service timestamps log datetime localtime
service password-encryption
!
hostname MTDP_Saarbruecken_29347
!
enable secret 5 $1$I.82$PNonsJvJ7Mjydwhw71IbI0
!
username MTDP_Nemesvamos_29348 password 7 01040554565A
username MTDP_Eislingen_29354 password 7 10590A490846
username MTDP_StEtienne_29350 password 7 095B4D591454
username MTDP_Valmont_29349 password 7 0211070B0657
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
no ip finger
no ip bootp server
no ip domain-lookup
ipx routing 00b0.6456.6f20
isdn switch-type basic-net3
clock timezone GMT 0
!
!
process-max-time 200
!
interface Ethernet0/0
description connected to MTD Saarbruecken,DE LAN
ip address 10.66.2.1 255.255.254.0
ip access-group 190 in
no ip redirects
no ip directed-broadcast
no ip proxy-arp
bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial0/0
description MTD Saarbruecken,DE MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04528
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
bandwidth 512
frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
interface Serial0/0.22 point-to-point
description connected to Root_Beer
ip address 10.1.200.30 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 22
!
interface Serial0/0.31 point-to-point
description DLCI 32 to MTD Nemesvamos,HU DLCI 77 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04175
ip address 10.66.0.25 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 64
traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 64000
frame-relay interface-dlci 32
!
interface Serial0/0.33 point-to-point
description DLCI 33 to MTD StEtienne,FR DLCI 34 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B05935
ip address 10.66.0.9 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 64
traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 64000
frame-relay interface-dlci 33
!
interface Serial0/0.35 point-to-point
description DLCI 35 to MTD Valmont,FR DLCI 36 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B06090
ip address 10.66.0.5 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 64
traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 64000
frame-relay interface-dlci 35
bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial0/0.37 point-to-point
description DLCI 37 to MTD Eislingen,DE DLCI 38 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B04530
ip address 10.66.0.1 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 64
traffic-shape rate 128000 7936 7936 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 64000
frame-relay interface-dlci 37
!
interface Serial0/0.39 point-to-point
description DLCI 39 to MTD Marchtrenk,AU DLCI 40 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B22520
ip address 10.66.0.13 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 32
traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 32000
frame-relay interface-dlci 39
!
interface Serial0/0.41 point-to-point
description DLCI 41 to MTD Falkoping,SE DLCI 42 MCIWorldcom CKT W0B13531
ip address 10.66.0.17 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 32
traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 32000
frame-relay interface-dlci 41
!
interface Serial0/0.43 point-to-point
description DLCI 43 to MTD Randers,DK DLCI MCIWorldcom CKT W0A99203
ip address 10.66.0.21 255.255.255.252
no arp frame-relay
bandwidth 32
traffic-shape rate 64000 8000 8000 1000
traffic-shape adaptive 32000
frame-relay interface-dlci 43
!
interface Serial0/0.983 point-to-point
description Worldcom Mgmt - gnm6-rtra - dlci 145
ip address 10.66.0.253 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 983
!
interface BRI1/0
ip address 10.66.1.1 255.255.255.248
encapsulation ppp
bandwidth 8
dialer map ip 10.66.1.2 name MTDP_Eislingen_29354 broadcast 07161990837
dialer map ip 10.66.1.3 name MTDP_Nemesvamos_29348 broadcast 003688505520
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
hold-queue 75 in
!
interface BRI1/1
ip address 10.66.1.9 255.255.255.248
encapsulation ppp
bandwidth 8
dialer map ip 10.66.1.10 name MTDP_StEtienne_29350 broadcast 0033232919344
dialer map ip 10.66.1.11 name MTDP_Valmont_29349 broadcast 0033387298719
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
bridge-group 1
hold-queue 75 in
!
interface BRI1/2
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
shutdown
dialer-group 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication chap
!
interface BRI1/3
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
shutdown
dialer-group 1

Re: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin Welch

Actually there are a couple more books I would add to this excellent list:

Top Down Network Design  (Thanks again for the wonderful book Priscilla)
Performance and Fault Management
Cisco Access Lists Field Guide

-- Kevin

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2


> Is  Routing TCP/IP Volume 2 out yet?  I see it listed on Amazon as a 4-6
> week ship time and cannot find it at all on bookpool.com?
>
> -- Kevin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Katson PN Yeung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2
>
>
> > Yes, this is very true that Dr. Perlman's book should be on the
shelf
> > Here is my list (and the reading procedure.)
> >
> > 1. Interconnection 2nd edition
> > 2. Routing TCP/IP vol 1
> > 3. IRA. 1st edition
> > 4. Caslow's 2nd edition.
> > 5. Cisco ATM solution
> > 6.Integrating Voice and data networks.
> >
> > I have already finished 1-3 multiple times and I really find it is
helpful
> > for my daily job. Now I am doing 4, after reading it from cover to
cover,
> I
> > will go for a written test.
> >
> > One more point, personally, I think Interconnection 2nd edition should
be
> > read and understand before anything else...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Craig Columbus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I haven't read Doyle's Vol2, but if volume1 is taken as an indicator,
> I'm
> > > sure it'll be a good reference.
> > > I've read the others that you have on your list, with the exception of
> the
> > > Rossi book, and can confirm that you should have them on your shelf.
> > > In addition, you really should obtain a copy of Interconnections by
> Radia
> > > Perlman.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > At 09:29 AM 1/20/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >I am looking at obtaining the books that are "Required reading" for
the
> > > >CCIE lab, according to www.ccbootcamp.com. I have heard great things
> > about
> > > >their perpetration labs and plan to buy them as soon as I can get my
> lab
> > > >pieced together from optsys.
> > > >
> > > >The books listed are:
> > > >
> > > >Internet Routing Architectures, Bassam Halabi
> > > >CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volume I, Jeff Doyle
> > > >Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIE's, Caslow
> > > >Cisco Lan Switching (CCIE professional development)
> > > >Cisco Catalyst Lan Switching Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas
> Rossi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I noticed the TCP/IP book by Doyle has a Volume 1 and Volume 2. The
> first
> > > >book  seems to be the foundation book while the second one goes into
> BGP.
> > > >Multicasting, etc.
> > > >
> > > >The Architecture book by Halabib is a must have, from everyone that
has
> > > >read it. It  seems to be heavy in BGP more than other exterior
routing
> > > >protocols. Is Doyle vol 2 worth reading back to front or are their
> better
> > > >reads one the list for that information?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >-Eric Gunn
> > > >
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Routing protocol displays for Routing Exam

2001-01-21 Thread Steve Dangerfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Group / Anyone sat Routing,

Do you get many questions detailing the Routing protocol show commands ?

Steve

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Re: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2

2001-01-21 Thread Kevin Welch

Is  Routing TCP/IP Volume 2 out yet?  I see it listed on Amazon as a 4-6
week ship time and cannot find it at all on bookpool.com?

-- Kevin

- Original Message -
From: "Katson PN Yeung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE reading: TCP/IP by Doyle Vol.1 or 2


> Yes, this is very true that Dr. Perlman's book should be on the shelf
> Here is my list (and the reading procedure.)
>
> 1. Interconnection 2nd edition
> 2. Routing TCP/IP vol 1
> 3. IRA. 1st edition
> 4. Caslow's 2nd edition.
> 5. Cisco ATM solution
> 6.Integrating Voice and data networks.
>
> I have already finished 1-3 multiple times and I really find it is helpful
> for my daily job. Now I am doing 4, after reading it from cover to cover,
I
> will go for a written test.
>
> One more point, personally, I think Interconnection 2nd edition should be
> read and understand before anything else...
>
>
>
> "Craig Columbus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I haven't read Doyle's Vol2, but if volume1 is taken as an indicator,
I'm
> > sure it'll be a good reference.
> > I've read the others that you have on your list, with the exception of
the
> > Rossi book, and can confirm that you should have them on your shelf.
> > In addition, you really should obtain a copy of Interconnections by
Radia
> > Perlman.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > At 09:29 AM 1/20/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >I am looking at obtaining the books that are "Required reading" for the
> > >CCIE lab, according to www.ccbootcamp.com. I have heard great things
> about
> > >their perpetration labs and plan to buy them as soon as I can get my
lab
> > >pieced together from optsys.
> > >
> > >The books listed are:
> > >
> > >Internet Routing Architectures, Bassam Halabi
> > >CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volume I, Jeff Doyle
> > >Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIE's, Caslow
> > >Cisco Lan Switching (CCIE professional development)
> > >Cisco Catalyst Lan Switching Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi, Thomas
Rossi
> > >
> > >
> > >I noticed the TCP/IP book by Doyle has a Volume 1 and Volume 2. The
first
> > >book  seems to be the foundation book while the second one goes into
BGP.
> > >Multicasting, etc.
> > >
> > >The Architecture book by Halabib is a must have, from everyone that has
> > >read it. It  seems to be heavy in BGP more than other exterior routing
> > >protocols. Is Doyle vol 2 worth reading back to front or are their
better
> > >reads one the list for that information?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >-Eric Gunn
> > >
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Re: Non-contiguous subnet masks

2001-01-21 Thread Chuck

Dear Chris :
Could you refer us the RFC or website for further study.   Thanks



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Timed Access Lists

2001-01-21 Thread Timothy Metz

Has anyone ever used timed access lists?

I'm wondering if I can specify multiple times and days and still process
through the list or will I exit the list after a test condition is
compared... This is getting hard to verbalize but I'll give it a shot...

ie:

I want to limit www browsing on one time schedule during the week and a
different time schedule during the weekend.

Setting up two time ranges is not a problem

Now I need to write the access list

deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekdays
deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekends
permit ip any any

will this work or will http traffic exit the list after the first test
condition?


Thanks

Tim

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Catalyst 5000 error need advice... Module 1 failure...

2001-01-21 Thread Anthony

Hi Group,

The catalyst is suffering the problem as below, I've pulled it out at insert
it back again. Reset has been done but the message appear again.

*WS-5509 and 12 port 10/100*

Module 1 failure due to CBL0, CBL1, or CBL2 Error

Any advice? The WS-5509 is failure or the 5505 chassis? Or I've to return it
to vendor?

Thank you.

Regards,








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Re: Business Proposal for CCIE lab:kick him

2001-01-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Hey guys...I love you allMy public apology to Jim.
Never again a bad word.

:-)




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