Ip Telephony question [7:26344]

2001-11-14 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi All,

I will take the IP Telephony 9E0-569 CIPT tomorrow, so any last minute
advice for me. If anyone taken this exam before what is the mostly questions
based on? I did not understand very well the last 3 chapters which are
CallManager Architecture, Call Preservation and Media Resources, WAN Design
Considerations. What is the percentage of these 3 chapters in the exam?

Any help will be appreciated?

Best regards,

Cisco Breaker




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Re: Subject: RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Paul Werner

And not even an honorable mention on Hedy Lamarr?  It seems 
that Hedy's invention in 1942 has more to do with the future of 
networking today, then any other technology I have seen of 
late.  Besides the fact that she was honored as the most 
beautiful woman of the world and graced the cover of nearly 
every Corel product sold for the last 10 years, she was a 
forward thinker and patriot in the fight against the Nazis.

She was the coinventor of today's modern wireless network 
technologies, namely frequency hopping spread spectrum.  She 
also gave up all patent rights to the invention to the US 
government (who quickly classified her work and patent, since 
the technology did not yet exist to make it work).  Once Dr. 
William Shockley invented the transistor in 1948, the 
technology could come alive.  It was first used for radio 
communications in the early 1960s on American warships during 
the Cuban missile crisis .  The technology of FHSS was not 
available to US consumers until the  early 1980s, when it was 
declassified in a limited fashion by both DoD and NSA (output 
power had to be less than 1W total radiated power).  Still, 
this technology is delivering high speed wireless at very 
extended distances.

v/r,

Paul Werner

p.s., "There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold"

 -Led Z, Stairway to Heaven



> May I please add Claude Shannon to your list. He's my hero.
> 
> And don't forget what Bilbo Baggins said about Aragorn, son 
of Arathorn:
> 
> "All that's gold doesn't glitter."
> 
> I think this would apply to the discussion about Paul (the 
moderator for
> 
> this group). He's gold in my book even if he doesn't 
glitter! ;-) Also,
> I 
> would like to mention that John Chambers is a humble man, not 
motivated
> by 
> greed or money. I think he's motivated mostly by "the 
conquest."
> 
> In case you're wondering, the more famous quote "All that 
glitters isn't
> 
> gold" comes from Merchant of Venice, although Shakespeare was 
not the
> first 
> person to say it. Aristotle and Chaucer also said it. It's 
been a common
> 
> proverb since Aristotle's time. It seems to be something that 
every 
> generation has to learn.
> 
> Back to work now ;-)
> 
> Priscilla


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RE: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Sergio Silva (ZA)

Well Done Nigel, Bet you sleep like a baby tonight!
Serg

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From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]


Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I
just
got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and practicing
on
the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.

I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
which
I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to catch
up
on the sleep that escaped me last night.

More to follow once I get rested up..

Nigel Taylor
CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->
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Re: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Kevin Wigle

hearty congrats!

It is always great to hear about someone reaching the top.

Can't wait for your follow on tale of triumph.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Nigel Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2001 19:55
Subject: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]


> Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I
just
> got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
> CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
> relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and
practicing
> on
> the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.
>
> I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
> which
> I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to
catch
> up
> on the sleep that escaped me last night.
>
> More to follow once I get rested up..
>
> Nigel Taylor
> CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->




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RE: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

2001-11-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

In all fairness, there are far more of us who have failed the Lab than
passed, no matter what or whose study materials we've used. And there are
plenty of CCIE's who earned theirs before any of these training aids were
available.

Bootcamp materials are an excellent source of ideas and inspiration. They
are by no means the only source.

A former boss of mine, a CCIE herself, told me several times that everything
she needed to pass is available for free on CCO.

It's all a matter of determination and effort.

Best wishes

Chuck

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Jeremy Wright
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]


You've been selling your labs since July and no one
has passed using them? I'd say they are a complete
waste of money if that's the case.  I've met the guys
from ccbootcamp and I guarantee they run a first class
operation. I think the smartest move is to use what
has a proven track record in the CCIE process.



> From: ""Michael Cinquanti""
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]
>
>
> > I too am completely biased (since I'm the
> Publisher of CertificationZone
> > and we sell the IPexpert Lab Workbook), but the
> fact that Mr. Ellis knows
> > 150 CCIEs who have used his service does not
> support the idea that
> > one Lab reference is the *best choice*. Since the
> ZONE has only been
> > selling the IPexpert Lab Workbook since July, Brad
> knows that we do not
> yet
> > have 150 customers who have used our book and
> passed the Lab Exam. But
> > based on the way our book is flying off the shelf
> and based on the fact
> > that qualified reviewers have told us that our
> reference is an excellent
> > study
> > tool, I suspect that it won't be too long before
> we do have that many
> > CCIEs and more.
> >
> > As for constant updating, in the past three
> months, the IPexpert Workbook
> > has been updated two times and already includes a
> sample lab in the new
> > one-day format. Yet another Update is being
> prepared now and will be
> > distributed, free-of-charge, to anyone who owns a
> previous version.
> >
> > We have also had people who've passed the lab and
> people who've failed the
> > lab review our book from cover-to-cover. The
> results are unanimous. They
> > think the IPexpert Book is a great preparation
> resource for the Lab Exam
> > and worth every penny it costs. We've published
> one such review (from a
> guy
> > who's currently preparing for his second Lab Exam
> attempt) at the ZONE
> > website. We should have a second review (from a
> guy who's already earned
> > his CCIE) posted at the site sometime this month.
> >
> > But I can't answer Pieter-Jan's original question
> -- and neither can Brad
> > Ellis. Postings on Newsgroups and Mailing Lists
> can be helpful, but don't
> > depend completely on what you read there. I urge
> all CCIE lab candidates
> > looking for appropriate references to examine all
> the alternatives
> > carefully. Visit the websites, use e-mail and
> those toll free phone
> > numbers, examine the qualifications of the
> authors, ask for references,
> and
> > contact those references directly. If you find two
> you like and can afford
> > to do so, buy them both. Good luck with the Lab
> Exam.
> >
> > >I am completely biased (since I am one of the
> owner's of NLI), but I do
> know
> > >of over 150 CCIE's that have used the ccbootcamp
> labs to get their
> CCIE...I
> > >havent heard of one CCIE yet that has used the
> other labs to get their #.
> > >:)
> > >
> > >Also, the bootcamp labs are constantly being
> updated and added on to.  In
> > >fact, we are in the process of modifying all of
> our old labs by removing
> the
> > >obsolete technology and changing them to a 1-day
> format (which means we
> give
> > >you pre-config files with IP addresses, not a
> real big deal there).
> > >
> > >thanks,
> > >-Brad Ellis
> > >CCIE#5796
> > >Network Learning Inc
> > >www.ccbootcamp.com
> > >
> > >""Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>
> > >>  I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to
> prepare for my CCIE Lab in
> June
> > >>  2002.
> > >>  I've found the following two on the net:
> > >>
> > >>  - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation
> Workbook 2.0
> > >>  - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription
> > >>
> > >>  Has anybody used these and which one is
> considered the best choice?
> > >>
> > >>  Regards,
> > >>
> > >>  Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen
> > >>  CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
> > Mike Cinquanti
> > President
> > Genium Publishing Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>


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RE: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

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Wojtek Zlobicki
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]


Lets try that again , being a little trigger happy  :)

> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Hitchhikers Guide memories being a little fuzzy , isn't 42 the answer :P
-

CL: ah, but what is the question? Wasn't that the ultimate point of the
Hitch Hiker's Guide?




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RE: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Normally I reserve my hearty congratulations for private e-mails. However,
this is one where I want to make an exception. Over the past couple of years
Nigel Taylor has been a good participant on this list and the CCIE Lab list.
Furthermore, he has been an excellent partner in several over-the-net labs.
I have spent long hours on the phone, trading configs, trading information
on what was seen and done in various setups. Nigel has excellent study
habits, excellent powers of observation, and has really dug into this stuff.
I have sure learned a lot during the course of our e-mails and our phone
conversations, not to mention our virtual networks, linked by gre tunnels
and ebgp-multihop. I hope Nigel will post a little bit of something he said
to me last time we spoke. About analyzing things based on the result, and
having several alternatives to attain that result, be they route tagging,
route-maps, policy routing, or other means.

This one was well earned, and well done.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Now go have some fun!

Chuck

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Nigel Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]


Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I
just
got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and practicing
on
the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.

I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
which
I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to catch
up
on the sleep that escaped me last night.

More to follow once I get rested up..

Nigel Taylor
CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->




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Re: Latency on the local access circuit [7:26263]

2001-11-14 Thread VoIP Guy

If traffic shaping, do both sides match?Are you doing any FRF.12
fragmentation?   Are you sure the traffic shaping paramaters are OK?  I have
a feeling this is it.  Make sure both sides match.


""Paul Jin""  wrote in message
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> Hi Alex,
>
> This site has another router connection back to the hub so this PVC is not
> being used at this moment except for testing.
>
> I have no fecn/becns.  I have the CIR set at 128K on the network portion.
>
> No discards within the cloud.  in fact, within the network, it is
> around 70 ms between stratacom to stratacom.  But between the router
> to router ping, it is very abnormally high.
>
> The hub site has other PVCs exiting to other routers and they all
> work ok.  Just this particular one.
>
> It seems that something locally must be changed.  Bad thing is I have to
> rely on many intermediaries to get answers and get things done.
>
> Paul




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RE: Best sniffer [7:26030]

2001-11-14 Thread Dennie Turner

Personally I prefer Sniffer Pro By Network Associates. Etherpeek is
supposed to be good too, but not as powerful as Sniffer pro. Both are
not free.

www.sniffer.com

www.wildpackets.com

Dennie

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Subject: Best sniffer [7:26030]

whats the best sniffer? i want one thats intuitive and powerful.
something
that can unwrap packets to the data content and if possbile let you view
communications between machines by orginizing the packets for you. if
its
free that would be good too




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CISCO EQUIPAMENT FOR SALE: CATALYST 1200 AND CISCO [7:26321]

2001-11-14 Thread Alexandre Carvalho

Hi Everyone,
Just to let you know about my auctions on Ebay for my routers and switches .
I still have some that I will post later.
For those who are interested contact me off line to set the deal.

Cat 1200 -> $250,00
Router 2511 -> $870,00
Router AS2511RJ -> $800,00

I can make a good deal if you buy a set of them..

Thanks,

Alex Carvalho


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1297065500




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Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]

2001-11-14 Thread Jeremy Wright

You've been selling your labs since July and no one
has passed using them? I'd say they are a complete
waste of money if that's the case.  I've met the guys
from ccbootcamp and I guarantee they run a first class
operation. I think the smartest move is to use what
has a proven track record in the CCIE process. 



> From: ""Michael Cinquanti"" 
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920]
> 
> 
> > I too am completely biased (since I'm the
> Publisher of CertificationZone
> > and we sell the IPexpert Lab Workbook), but the
> fact that Mr. Ellis knows
> > 150 CCIEs who have used his service does not
> support the idea that
> > one Lab reference is the *best choice*. Since the
> ZONE has only been
> > selling the IPexpert Lab Workbook since July, Brad
> knows that we do not
> yet
> > have 150 customers who have used our book and
> passed the Lab Exam. But
> > based on the way our book is flying off the shelf
> and based on the fact
> > that qualified reviewers have told us that our
> reference is an excellent
> > study
> > tool, I suspect that it won't be too long before
> we do have that many
> > CCIEs and more.
> >
> > As for constant updating, in the past three
> months, the IPexpert Workbook
> > has been updated two times and already includes a
> sample lab in the new
> > one-day format. Yet another Update is being
> prepared now and will be
> > distributed, free-of-charge, to anyone who owns a
> previous version.
> >
> > We have also had people who've passed the lab and
> people who've failed the
> > lab review our book from cover-to-cover. The
> results are unanimous. They
> > think the IPexpert Book is a great preparation
> resource for the Lab Exam
> > and worth every penny it costs. We've published
> one such review (from a
> guy
> > who's currently preparing for his second Lab Exam
> attempt) at the ZONE
> > website. We should have a second review (from a
> guy who's already earned
> > his CCIE) posted at the site sometime this month.
> >
> > But I can't answer Pieter-Jan's original question
> -- and neither can Brad
> > Ellis. Postings on Newsgroups and Mailing Lists
> can be helpful, but don't
> > depend completely on what you read there. I urge
> all CCIE lab candidates
> > looking for appropriate references to examine all
> the alternatives
> > carefully. Visit the websites, use e-mail and
> those toll free phone
> > numbers, examine the qualifications of the
> authors, ask for references,
> and
> > contact those references directly. If you find two
> you like and can afford
> > to do so, buy them both. Good luck with the Lab
> Exam.
> >
> > >I am completely biased (since I am one of the
> owner's of NLI), but I do
> know
> > >of over 150 CCIE's that have used the ccbootcamp
> labs to get their
> CCIE...I
> > >havent heard of one CCIE yet that has used the
> other labs to get their #.
> > >:)
> > >
> > >Also, the bootcamp labs are constantly being
> updated and added on to.  In
> > >fact, we are in the process of modifying all of
> our old labs by removing
> the
> > >obsolete technology and changing them to a 1-day
> format (which means we
> give
> > >you pre-config files with IP addresses, not a
> real big deal there).
> > >
> > >thanks,
> > >-Brad Ellis
> > >CCIE#5796
> > >Network Learning Inc
> > >www.ccbootcamp.com
> > >
> > >""Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>
> > >>  I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to
> prepare for my CCIE Lab in
> June
> > >>  2002.
> > >>  I've found the following two on the net:
> > >>
> > >>  - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation
> Workbook 2.0
> > >>  - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription
> > >>
> > >>  Has anybody used these and which one is
> considered the best choice?
> > >>
> > >>  Regards,
> > >>
> > >>  Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen
> > >>  CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
> > Mike Cinquanti
> > President
> > Genium Publishing Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 


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RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Odette II

Ole- Now that's more like what I was thinking!

BTW... I loved your binary signature :-)

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services


-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:03 PM
To: 'Mark Odette II'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's! [7:25805]


We are touching several subjects that every now and then are discussed on
this and other lists.

There are many things to consider:

When getting a job and you have a CCNP cert, I would assume that most
companies will expect you to live up to that cert, and fire you if you're
just "all paper - no brains".

Many applicants put so much stuff on their resume that has no real life
truth in it.

I remember when I was interviewing for an assistant, and wanted someone (at
that time) with Novell experience and preferable a CNA or better, and this
guy came in and said that he had paid and attended all CNE courses (5 I
believe) which would have costed him more than $10K - but when he found out
that he had to pay for the exams themself, he had refused to take them. Yeah
right! Who's gonna pay $10K+ for training but not an additional $500.- to
pass and get the cert???

After that interview, I made a paper with 10 simple questions from making a
CAT5 cable, to backing up the Novell NetWare 3.1x bindery, to creating setup
diskettes for NT 4.0 installation. Most of the applicants only got about
half of them right, and one guy did not get any of them right, but was
sitting with a BIG smile throughout the whole interview.

Next, salary surveys.

I often wonder what happens with salary and certs. - When people stay in the
same job and achieve a new cert, will they get a raise automatically, by
request, or not a chance? - When people apply for a new job, will the salary
match their certs or only the ones the position need them to have?

Also, some people have lost their lust of educating themselves and/or
providing service they can be proud of. Someone can have been in a job for
20 years, but does not have any pride in doing a good job, so they are
standing still so to speak.

Personally, I like to be proud of putting my name on what I have achived, so
people can look at the job I've done and say "that guy did a good job here".
That is probably why my company have given me three extremly good raises and
a very good bonus in the less than two years I've been working for them.

So, salary surveys... - Well, I like to read them to get a feel for what a
guy like me with 14 years of professional programming, system & network
administration, and web development/administration gets, and then compare it
to where I am salary wise. One thing everyone should remember is that salary
is not the only thing to consider. You can get a high salary, but be
travelling 70% of the time, working 90 hours a week, and be in an
environment with a populated department below the amount of tasks, forcing
you to eat antacid tablets like candy.

Anyway, this was just my 0010 cents.

Have fun out there...

Ole

~~~
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 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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~~~
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From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's! [7:25805]


>>>I just get tired of people claiming
> to be "networkers" and they don't even know how to use the ultimate
resource
> of networkers... the internet... they just post questions here without
doing
> ANY research on their own...
>>>

So do I interpret this correctly to say that the ONLY way you can be a
"Networker" is that you HAVE to either PAY for a BS Salary Survey (because
we all know the "Free" ones are nothing but teasers to get you to buy the
real deal) or find some other STATIC content that is not necessarily
accurate

I thought the term "Networking" in a social context was to interact with
many others to find out any answer to a question you may have It's not
like my Video Display or Printer can say, "Yo Mark, check out what I
found... Google says the word on Salaries for your kind of job of interest
is roughly BLAH BLAH BLAH annually!".

Some people need to just take a chill pill just because someone asks "Hey,
you guys and gals know what the avg. pay seems to be going for with
such-n-such job these days I'd really like to get some real-time fellow
colleague info on this, rather than depending on a silly survey that was
generated 9+ months ago".

Get the Point! :)
-M

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OT: File needed - CPA3640 upgrade file [7:26253]

2001-11-14 Thread Brad Ellis

Does anyone have the CPA3640 upgrade file?  I've got the other CPA upgrade
files, but Im missing that one.  Email me offlist if you do.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
Network Learning Inc
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RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

We are touching several subjects that every now and then are discussed on
this and other lists.

There are many things to consider:

When getting a job and you have a CCNP cert, I would assume that most
companies will expect you to live up to that cert, and fire you if you're
just "all paper - no brains".

Many applicants put so much stuff on their resume that has no real life
truth in it.

I remember when I was interviewing for an assistant, and wanted someone (at
that time) with Novell experience and preferable a CNA or better, and this
guy came in and said that he had paid and attended all CNE courses (5 I
believe) which would have costed him more than $10K - but when he found out
that he had to pay for the exams themself, he had refused to take them. Yeah
right! Who's gonna pay $10K+ for training but not an additional $500.- to
pass and get the cert???

After that interview, I made a paper with 10 simple questions from making a
CAT5 cable, to backing up the Novell NetWare 3.1x bindery, to creating setup
diskettes for NT 4.0 installation. Most of the applicants only got about
half of them right, and one guy did not get any of them right, but was
sitting with a BIG smile throughout the whole interview.

Next, salary surveys.

I often wonder what happens with salary and certs. - When people stay in the
same job and achieve a new cert, will they get a raise automatically, by
request, or not a chance? - When people apply for a new job, will the salary
match their certs or only the ones the position need them to have?

Also, some people have lost their lust of educating themselves and/or
providing service they can be proud of. Someone can have been in a job for
20 years, but does not have any pride in doing a good job, so they are
standing still so to speak.

Personally, I like to be proud of putting my name on what I have achived, so
people can look at the job I've done and say "that guy did a good job here".
That is probably why my company have given me three extremly good raises and
a very good bonus in the less than two years I've been working for them.

So, salary surveys... - Well, I like to read them to get a feel for what a
guy like me with 14 years of professional programming, system & network
administration, and web development/administration gets, and then compare it
to where I am salary wise. One thing everyone should remember is that salary
is not the only thing to consider. You can get a high salary, but be
travelling 70% of the time, working 90 hours a week, and be in an
environment with a populated department below the amount of tasks, forcing
you to eat antacid tablets like candy.

Anyway, this was just my 0010 cents.

Have fun out there...

Ole

~~~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~ 
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
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>>>I just get tired of people claiming
> to be "networkers" and they don't even know how to use the ultimate
resource
> of networkers... the internet... they just post questions here without
doing
> ANY research on their own...
>>>

So do I interpret this correctly to say that the ONLY way you can be a
"Networker" is that you HAVE to either PAY for a BS Salary Survey (because
we all know the "Free" ones are nothing but teasers to get you to buy the
real deal) or find some other STATIC content that is not necessarily
accurate

I thought the term "Networking" in a social context was to interact with
many others to find out any answer to a question you may have It's not
like my Video Display or Printer can say, "Yo Mark, check out what I
found... Google says the word on Salaries for your kind of job of interest
is roughly BLAH BLAH BLAH annually!".

Some people need to just take a chill pill just because someone asks "Hey,
you guys and gals know what the avg. pay seems to be going for with
such-n-such job these days I'd really like to get some real-time fellow
colleague info on this, rather than depending on a silly survey that was
generated 9+ months ago".

Get the Point! :)
-M

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You are indeed correct.  Posting questions here is a way of finding
information on the internet.  It's the lazy persons way!  Why take an hour
or two to look something up on your own when you can post a question here in
one minute and have someone else provide the answer?

The ability to research a problem and identi

RE: CCIE LAB SETUP [7:26281]

2001-11-14 Thread Wright, Jeremy

check out ccbootcamp.com ...i purchased all of my pod from them. 

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE LAB SETUP [7:26281]


Hey guys and gals, quick question... sorta...

We have some end-of-year-money (govt) and I need a quick list of a minimum
and the extras list of hardware for a good CCIE lab. Something that's
identical to the actual equipment used in the lab or that's pretty damn
close.

In other words, if you had a shitload of $ for a lab, what would you buy
yourself?

I do already have the following:
Cat5k w/RSm
7206 w/4port 10BaseT, 4port Fast-Serial
several 1900/2900's
2-804w/NT1 isdn routers
isdn simulator
2-2502
2-2600 w/WIC1

Cheers,
Jeff




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Lets try that again , being a little trigger happy  :)

> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Hitchhikers Guide memories being a little fuzzy , isn't 42 the answer :P




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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> At 12:15 PM 11/14/01, John Green wrote:
> >-
> >and what would this mean ??
> >where exactly is the equipment replicated ? is it one
> >at customer
> >access point and the other at the carrier provider's
> >end? is this what
> >is duplication and what is the context for
> >"Multiple networks" ?
>
> You'll have to tell us the context. Where did you get the wording below
and
> what is it in reference too? It sounds like a bunch of "hand waving" that
> might make more sense with some context, but might not. Very few companies
> would implement multiple, parallel networks to meet availability goals,
but
> some might.
>
> The sentence at the end doesn't fit. Did it come from somewhere else? Or
> maybe it fits if you read this as advertising material from a service
> provider. Are they trying to justify why a customer should use them for
> redundancy or something? It's impossible to tell.
>
> And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.
>
> Priscilla
>
> >
> >"Multiple networks, however, are extremely expensive
> >to build and
> >maintain. Capital expenditure is high because
> >equipment is replicated,
> >and operation and maintenance costs are high because
> >of the
> >duplication of personnel and practices for each
> >separate network. At
> >the same time, competitive pressures in the
> >communication industry are
> >forcing providers to shift their business models from
> >simply providing
> >bandwidth to delivering revenue-generating,
> >value-added services"
> >
> >__
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals
> >http://personals.yahoo.com
> 
>
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RE: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Nigel,

I'm sure you feel a little taller now :)

Ole


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Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I
just
got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and practicing
on
the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.

I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
which
I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to catch
up
on the sleep that escaped me last night.

More to follow once I get rested up..

Nigel Taylor
CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->




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Re: ospf config [7:26311]

2001-11-14 Thread Erick B.

Richard,

Your config looks fine for this side, and as long as
each 2501 is configured with the correct IP subnet for
serial interface and OSPF network statements are
correct you should form six neighbors for OSPF.

HTH, Erick

--- "Mr. Richard L. Pickard"
 wrote:
> 11/14/2001   7:22pm  Wednesday
> 
> Professionals,
> The router name is area zero but it actually has six
> serial interfaces that
> are in six different areas.
> Each serial interface in connected to a 2501.
> 
> I am trying to run all six areas on the 2600.
> I am most of the way there.  I think I need to add
> "OSPF point-to-point" &
> "neighbor" commands
> All six 2500s are connected on the ethernet side to
> a catalyst that is set up
> as area zero.
> That half on the config works.
> 
> Richard
> 
> //
> 
> 
> AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf database
> 
> OSPF Router with ID (200.20.20.20)
> (Process ID 100)
> 
> Router Link States (Area 1)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.202003   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> 
> Router Link States (Area 2)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.202003   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> 
> Router Link States (Area 3)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.202003   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> 
> Router Link States (Area 4)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.202002   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> 
> Router Link States (Area 5)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.201973   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> 
> Router Link States (Area 6)
> 
> Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#
>   Checksum Link count
> 200.20.20.20200.20.20.201975   
> 0x8002 0x1E1A   0
> AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf ?
>  Process ID number
>   border-routers   Border and Boundary Router
> Information
>   database Database summary
>   flood-list   Link state flood list
>   interfaceInterface information
>   mpls MPLS related information
>   neighbor Neighbor list
>   request-list Link state request list
>   retransmission-list  Link state retransmission
> list
>   summary-address  Summary-address
> redistribution Information
>   virtual-linksVirtual link information
>   |Output modifiers
>   
> 
> AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf 100
>  Routing Process "ospf 100" with ID 200.20.20.20 and
> Domain ID 0.0.0.100
>  Supports only single TOS(TOS0) routes
>  Supports opaque LSA
>  SPF schedule delay 5 secs, Hold time between two
> SPFs 10 secs
>  Minimum LSA interval 5 secs. Minimum LSA arrival 1
> secs
>  Number of external LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
>  Number of opaque AS LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
>  Number of DCbitless external and opaque AS LSA 0
>  Number of DoNotAge external and opaque AS LSA 0
>  Number of areas in this router is 6. 6 normal 0
> stub 0 nssa
>  External flood list length 0
> Area 1
> Number of interfaces in this area is 1
> Area has no authentication
> SPF algorithm executed 2 times
> Area ranges are
> Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
> Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum
> 0x0
> Number of DCbitless LSA 0
> Number of indication LSA 0
> Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
> Flood list length 0
> Area 2
> Number of interfaces in this area is 1
> Area has no authentication
> SPF algorithm executed 2 times
> Area ranges are
> Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
> Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum
> 0x0
> Number of DCbitless LSA 0
> Number of indication LSA 0
> Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
> Flood list length 0
> Area 3
> Number of interfaces in this area is 1
> Area has no authentication
> SPF algorithm executed 2 times
> Area ranges are
> Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
> Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum
> 0x0
> Number of DCbitless LSA 0
> Number of indication LSA 0
> Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
> Flood list length 0
> Area 4
> Number of interfaces in this area is 1
> Area has no authentication
> SPF algorithm executed 2 times
> Area ranges are
> Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
> Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum
> 0x0
> Number of DCbitless LSA 0
> Number of indication LSA 0
> Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
> Flood list length 0
> Area 5
> Number of interfaces in this a

Re: ospf config [7:26311]

2001-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 11/14/01 7:42:42 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Subj: ospf config [7:26311]
 Date:  11/14/01 7:42:42 PM Central Standard Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Richard L. Pickard)
 Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Richard L. Pickard)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 11/14/2001   7:22pm  Wednesday
 

Richard,
Try the "area (X) range A.B.C.D. " command to connect all your areas to the 
backbone (area 0)
HTH,
Rob H.



 Professionals,
 The router name is area zero but it actually has six serial interfaces that
 are in six different areas.
 Each serial interface in connected to a 2501.
 
 I am trying to run all six areas on the 2600.
 I am most of the way there.  I think I need to add "OSPF point-to-point" &
 "neighbor" commands
 All six 2500s are connected on the ethernet side to a catalyst that is set
up
 as area zero.
 That half on the config works.
 
 Richard
 
 //
 
 
 AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf database
 
 OSPF Router with ID (200.20.20.20) (Process ID 100)
 
 Router Link States (Area 1)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0
 
 Router Link States (Area 2)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0
 
 Router Link States (Area 3)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0
 
 Router Link States (Area 4)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020020x8002 0x1E1A   0
 
 Router Link States (Area 5)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019730x8002 0x1E1A   0
 
 Router Link States (Area 6)
 
 Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
 200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019750x8002 0x1E1A   0
 AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf ?
  Process ID number
   border-routers   Border and Boundary Router Information
   database Database summary
   flood-list   Link state flood list
   interfaceInterface information
   mpls MPLS related information
   neighbor Neighbor list
   request-list Link state request list
   retransmission-list  Link state retransmission list
   summary-address  Summary-address redistribution Information
   virtual-linksVirtual link information
   |Output modifiers
   
 
 AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf 100
  Routing Process "ospf 100" with ID 200.20.20.20 and Domain ID 0.0.0.100
  Supports only single TOS(TOS0) routes
  Supports opaque LSA
  SPF schedule delay 5 secs, Hold time between two SPFs 10 secs
  Minimum LSA interval 5 secs. Minimum LSA arrival 1 secs
  Number of external LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
  Number of opaque AS LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
  Number of DCbitless external and opaque AS LSA 0
  Number of DoNotAge external and opaque AS LSA 0
  Number of areas in this router is 6. 6 normal 0 stub 0 nssa
  External flood list length 0
 Area 1
 Number of interfaces in this area is 1
 Area has no authentication
 SPF algorithm executed 2 times
 Area ranges are
 Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
 Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless LSA 0
 Number of indication LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
 Flood list length 0
 Area 2
 Number of interfaces in this area is 1
 Area has no authentication
 SPF algorithm executed 2 times
 Area ranges are
 Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
 Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless LSA 0
 Number of indication LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
 Flood list length 0
 Area 3
 Number of interfaces in this area is 1
 Area has no authentication
 SPF algorithm executed 2 times
 Area ranges are
 Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
 Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless LSA 0
 Number of indication LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
 Flood list length 0
 Area 4
 Number of interfaces in this area is 1
 Area has no authentication
 SPF algorithm executed 2 times
 Area ranges are
 Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
 Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless LSA 0
 Number of indication LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
 Flood list length 0
 Area 5
 Number of inter

Re: RFC 768 UDP ? [7:26283]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:37 PM 11/14/01, nrf wrote:
> > >>> "Phil Barker"  11/14/2001 12:55:16 PM >>>
> > Just been reading the above RFC. To quote
> >
> > "Checksum is the 16-bit one's complement of the one's
> > complement sum of a pseudo header of information from
> > the IP header, the UDP header, and the data, padded
> > with zero octets at the end (if necessary) to make a
> > multiple of two octets.
> >
> > The pseudo header conceptually prefixed to the UDP
> > header contains the source address, the destination
> > address, the protocol, and the UDP length. This
> > information gives protection against misrouted
> > datagrams. This checksum procedure is the same as is
> > used in TCP."
> >
> > This business about a pseudo header is bothering me.
> > If the IP header has already had a checksum that runs
> > across the source and destination address then why
> > does UDP do this again ? It also creates an obvious
> > dependancy of UDP on IP also.
>
>You're correct, it  isn't necessary, and this has been acknowledged by the
>standards writers.  Some TCP/IP implementations ignore the UDP checksum (
>they will not reject a packet that does not have a UDP checksum, as long as
>the IP header checksum is OK).

True, but TCP does the same thing (i.e. uses a checksum based on a pseudo 
header) and TCP's checksum is required. So the question still remains, why? 
The only clue is that the RFC says this gives protection against misrouted 
packets. It's hard to fathom what they were getting at, but what are some 
situations where the IP addresses inserted by the sender might be different 
from those that are in the packet that arrives at the recipient? I can 
think of one major case that has become very popular in modern 
networks.. (It supposedly handles the issue by recalculating the 
checksum, but it could be buggy).


> >
> > Another question about padding making a multiple of
> > two octets. I seem to remember Novell IPX requiring
> > even numbered packets (2.X) maybe. Is this something
> > to do with 16 bit processors working more efficiently
> > with an even packet sizes i.e reading two bytes at a
> > time was less expensive processor-wise than reading an
> > odd byte ?

Sounds like a good guess.

> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email
>and
> > Music Charts
> > http://uk.my.yahoo.com


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Re: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 11/14/01 7:15:46 PM Central Standard Time, 
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Re: books question [7:26294]

2001-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 11/14/01 5:00:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< Subj: books question [7:26294]
 Date:  11/14/01 5:00:28 PM Central Standard Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stull, Cory)
 Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Can someone recommend good books on Cisco Call Manager / Unity / VOIP / QOS
 ???
 
 I've checked out the internet but you can only get so much out of the
 descriptions and reviews online.
 
 Thanks
 Cory
 
 Cory,
Integrated Voice and Data Networks by Scott Keagy is an excellent reference. 
Published by Cisco Press.
HTH,
Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah...




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RE: 2 sets of Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26317]

2001-11-14 Thread Rik Guyler

Sure it's possible.  No problemo.  This is no different than connecting the
Cats together via single Gig links.

Rik

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Subject: 2 sets of Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26317]


As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can give me.

Question:

If you have 3 cat6500's...

Cat 1 and 2 are already channeled by Gigabit ethernet.  Can I channel Cat 3 
to Cat2 by Gigabit as well?  This will obligate Cat 2 to have 2 sets of 
channels all are Gigabit...is this possible??



>

>Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:45:56 -0500
>
>I wouldn't create 2 etherchannels between the switches, as this creates 
>a loop, and with STP enabled, one of the channels would be disabled.  
>Use
all
>4 ports, or 2 of the ports; one from each supervisor engine.  The 
>commands to accomplish this would be as follows:
>
>set port chan 1/1,2/1 on (2 port etherchannel, one from each supervisor
>engine)
>set port chan 1/1-2/2 on (4-port etherchannel)
>
>-Brant.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Washington Rico"
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:28 AM
>Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
>
>
> > As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can 
> > give
>me.
> >
> > Question..
> > I am trying to create a Gigabit ethernet channel from two Cat 6500s.
Cat
>A
> > Gigabit pors 1/1-2 and 2/1-2.  Cat B Gigabit ports 1/1-2 and 2/1-2.
Can I
> > create a channel were Cat A ports 1/1,2/1 are on the same channel or 
> > am
I
> > forced to use contiguous ports as 1/1-2 as one channel group?
> >
> > Cat software 5.5.7
> >
> >
> > _
> > $B$+$o(B &
>$B;H$($k%V%i%&%6$G!"%$%s%?! > http://explorer.msn.co.jp/
_
$B$+$o(B &
$B;H$($k%V%i%&%6$G!"%$%s%?!<%M%C%H@83h$b$C$H3Z$7$/$J$k!*(B
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RE: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Rik Guyler

Dude, you are SOOO the man!  Congrats!

Rik

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE#8387 [7:26309]


Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I
just got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and practicing
on the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.

I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
which I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to
catch up on the sleep that escaped me last night.

More to follow once I get rested up..

Nigel Taylor
CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->




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ipx in 6500 [7:26326]

2001-11-14 Thread cage

I want to play DF3 lan/ipx in my company over more than one vlan, i have
built the vlan for ipx, but the DF3 did not work, no server was discovied in
the 6500. i don't know if the DF3 lan/ipx server can provide the sap
service.
what can i do?




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Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

> Why are you tracking people anyways? What do you have
> to gain? You getting paid by knowing peoples real name
> and company they work for? Maybe selling it to
> recruiters?

It makes conversation possible.  It is much easier to address someone as
Joe than CiscoDude9834343.

> You're the reason why my company uses this kind of
> secure internet service. It keeps people like you from
> snooping around our network.

> Also I never attacked you personally and don't know
> why you attacked me. It just seems that you would be
> smart enough to make some cash off your site. No need
> attack me for making a wrong assumption.

Paul simply asked that people use their real names.  It was not a direct
attack on you but a courteous request that asked that  all users use real
names.




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Lab equipment for sale [7:26323]

2001-11-14 Thread Terry Hartman

A friend of mine used this equipment to study for the CCIE now wants to
sell.

1 - Cisco 2501
1 - Cisco 2502
1 - Cisco 2514
1 - Cisco 2521
1 - Catalyst 5000 with the following modules WS-X5009, WS-X5010 and dual
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Re: Passport 8006 and Cisco's switch [7:26227]

2001-11-14 Thread Erick B.

This one is tough. The Passport 8600 is better then
the 6500 in some ways and the 6500 is better in other
ways and both are solid boxes. 

The question is, what are you trying to do?

Replacing Bay/Nortel with Cisco isn't a valid answer
:) (Why replace a perfectly good box?)

Erick

--- VoIP Guy  wrote:
> Passport 8100 is L2 like Cisco 6000
> and 8600 is L3 like Cisco 6500
> 
> The 81's and 86's are cool becaue they support
> DiffServ by default and the
> Cat's need a PFC.
> 
> 
> ""Abu Salmaan Sheikh""  wrote in message
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> > Catalyst 6500 series.
> >
> > Abu
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > William
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:50 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Passport 8006 and Cisco's switch
> [7:26227]
 > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > Do anyone know which Cisco's switch can be well
> competitive
> > > to Passport 8006
> > > ??
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!!!


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ospf config [7:26311]

2001-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What are you trying to achieve?
You say "I am trying to run all six areas on the 2600."  Judging by the
show ip ospf 100, you are succeeding in that aim.  However your six areas
on the 2600 won't talk to each other directly, because inter-area traffic
must go via area zero, so I assume all your inter-area traffic is going via
the catalyst.

In the words of HCB, "what problem are you trying to solve?"
I really hope this is a lab, and not a production setup...

JMcL


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11/14/2001   7:22pm  Wednesday

Professionals,
The router name is area zero but it actually has six serial interfaces that
are in six different areas.
Each serial interface in connected to a 2501.

I am trying to run all six areas on the 2600.
I am most of the way there.  I think I need to add "OSPF point-to-point" &
"neighbor" commands
All six 2500s are connected on the ethernet side to a catalyst that is set
up
as area zero.
That half on the config works.

Richard

//


AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf database

OSPF Router with ID (200.20.20.20) (Process ID 100)

Router Link States (Area 1)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 2)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 3)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 4)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020020x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 5)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019730x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 6)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019750x8002 0x1E1A   0
AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf ?
 Process ID number
  border-routers   Border and Boundary Router Information
  database Database summary
  flood-list   Link state flood list
  interfaceInterface information
  mpls MPLS related information
  neighbor Neighbor list
  request-list Link state request list
  retransmission-list  Link state retransmission list
  summary-address  Summary-address redistribution Information
  virtual-linksVirtual link information
  |Output modifiers


AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf 100
 Routing Process "ospf 100" with ID 200.20.20.20 and Domain ID 0.0.0.100
 Supports only single TOS(TOS0) routes
 Supports opaque LSA
 SPF schedule delay 5 secs, Hold time between two SPFs 10 secs
 Minimum LSA interval 5 secs. Minimum LSA arrival 1 secs
 Number of external LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of opaque AS LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless external and opaque AS LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge external and opaque AS LSA 0
 Number of areas in this router is 6. 6 normal 0 stub 0 nssa
 External flood list length 0
Area 1
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 2
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA

Re: Best sniffer [7:26030]

2001-11-14 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Ethereal does the trick (www.ethereal.com)

""Ali Mesdaq""  wrote in message
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> whats the best sniffer? i want one thats intuitive and powerful. something
> that can unwrap packets to the data content and if possbile let you view
> communications between machines by orginizing the packets for you. if its
> free that would be good too




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Re: RFC 768 UDP ? [7:26283]

2001-11-14 Thread nrf

Comments inline
""Patricia Leeb-Hart""  wrote in message
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> Oh, my.  One's head reels!
>
> >>> "Phil Barker"  11/14/2001 12:55:16 PM >>>
> Just been reading the above RFC. To quote
>
> "Checksum is the 16-bit one's complement of the one's
> complement sum of a pseudo header of information from
> the IP header, the UDP header, and the data, padded
> with zero octets at the end (if necessary) to make a
> multiple of two octets.
>
> The pseudo header conceptually prefixed to the UDP
> header contains the source address, the destination
> address, the protocol, and the UDP length. This
> information gives protection against misrouted
> datagrams. This checksum procedure is the same as is
> used in TCP."
>
>
>
>
> This business about a pseudo header is bothering me.
> If the IP header has already had a checksum that runs
> across the source and destination address then why
> does UDP do this again ? It also creates an obvious
> dependancy of UDP on IP also.

You're correct, it  isn't necessary, and this has been acknowledged by the
standards writers.  Some TCP/IP implementations ignore the UDP checksum (
they will not reject a packet that does not have a UDP checksum, as long as
the IP header checksum is OK).



>
> Another question about padding making a multiple of
> two octets. I seem to remember Novell IPX requiring
> even numbered packets (2.X) maybe. Is this something
> to do with 16 bit processors working more efficiently
> with an even packet sizes i.e reading two bytes at a
> time was less expensive processor-wise than reading an
> odd byte ?
>
> Phil.
>
>
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2 sets of Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26317]

2001-11-14 Thread Washington Rico

As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can give me.

Question:

If you have 3 cat6500's...

Cat 1 and 2 are already channeled by Gigabit ethernet.  Can I channel Cat 3 
to Cat2 by Gigabit as well?  This will obligate Cat 2 to have 2 sets of 
channels all are Gigabit...is this possible??



>

>Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:45:56 -0500
>
>I wouldn't create 2 etherchannels between the switches, as this creates a
>loop, and with STP enabled, one of the channels would be disabled.  Use 
all
>4 ports, or 2 of the ports; one from each supervisor engine.  The commands
>to accomplish this would be as follows:
>
>set port chan 1/1,2/1 on (2 port etherchannel, one from each supervisor
>engine)
>set port chan 1/1-2/2 on (4-port etherchannel)
>
>-Brant.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Washington Rico" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:28 AM
>Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
>
>
> > As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can give
>me.
> >
> > Question..
> > I am trying to create a Gigabit ethernet channel from two Cat 6500s.  
Cat
>A
> > Gigabit pors 1/1-2 and 2/1-2.  Cat B Gigabit ports 1/1-2 and 2/1-2.  
Can I
> > create a channel were Cat A ports 1/1,2/1 are on the same channel or am 
I
> > forced to use contiguous ports as 1/1-2 as one channel group?
> >
> > Cat software 5.5.7
> >
> >
> > _
> > $B$+$o(B &
>$B;H$($k%V%i%&%6$G!"%$%s%?! > http://explorer.msn.co.jp/
_
$B$+$o(B & $B;H$($k%V%i%&%6$G!"%$%s%?!<%M%C%H@83h$b$C$H3Z$7$/$J$k!*(B
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RE: Latency on the local access circuit [7:26263]

2001-11-14 Thread Paul Jin

Hi Alex,

This site has another router connection back to the hub so this PVC is not
being used at this moment except for testing.

I have no fecn/becns.  I have the CIR set at 128K on the network portion.

No discards within the cloud.  in fact, within the network, it is
around 70 ms between stratacom to stratacom.  But between the router
to router ping, it is very abnormally high.  

The hub site has other PVCs exiting to other routers and they all
work ok.  Just this particular one.

It seems that something locally must be changed.  Bad thing is I have to
rely on many intermediaries to get answers and get things done.

Paul




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anyone in Vancouver,Canada ? [7:26315]

2001-11-14 Thread Li Hou

If you live in Vancouver, Canada, and study towards CCNP/CCIE or
recertificate, I'm happy to share experience with you.

Li
CCIE,CCNP,CCDP,MCSE




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Re: All you veterans... [7:26301]

2001-11-14 Thread Sal DiStefano

Funny the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America is on the list
but not Cisco.

I called and they said to send it in and they may pay for it anyway.

Sal
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff D" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: All you veterans... [7:26301]


> Check it out for reimbursement:
>
> https://www.gibill.va.gov/Education/LCVets.htm




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RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

May I please add Claude Shannon to your list. He's my hero.

And don't forget what Bilbo Baggins said about Aragorn, son of Arathorn:

"All that's gold doesn't glitter."

I think this would apply to the discussion about Paul (the moderator for 
this group). He's gold in my book even if he doesn't glitter! ;-) Also, I 
would like to mention that John Chambers is a humble man, not motivated by 
greed or money. I think he's motivated mostly by "the conquest."

In case you're wondering, the more famous quote "All that glitters isn't 
gold" comes from Merchant of Venice, although Shakespeare was not the first 
person to say it. Aristotle and Chaucer also said it. It's been a common 
proverb since Aristotle's time. It seems to be something that every 
generation has to learn.

Back to work now ;-)

Priscilla



At 07:58 PM 11/14/01, Hartnell, George wrote:
>A very distant shout from the lives of some of those we owe...
>
>Thomas Hobbs, Charles Babbage, Albert Smee, Alan Turing.  It never ceases to
>amaze me that 'success', in modern America, equals money.  It used to equate
>with knowledge and the gaining thereof.  Though some of the early digital
>pioneers died poor and alone, I doubt the names of many contemporary CEOs
>will last as long in history.  Nor do I feel their contribution(s) have been
>of equal value.  The soul of this new machine deserves far better than greed
>as the primary motivator.
>
>Best, G.
>Vice-president (honorary), Old Geezers Club


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Re: Dazed and Confused [7:6705]

2001-11-14 Thread nettable_walker

11/14/2001   7:33pm  Wednesday

After six attempts I would think you would have most of the questions
written down.
Use that as a study guide.
There are people who take tests for a living.
They just memorize as much as they can & write a book on what's on the test.
When I am about to teach a CCNA class I take the test again just so my class
is on the same page with the test.

Richard

//

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> If you can memorize the stuff in the Cisco ICND book, you'll do fine.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 03:50 PM, Thomas Richardson wrote:
>
> > I have failed the CCNA test 6 times and am confused as to why. I feel I
> > have
> > passed but I keep getting scores in the 829 - 839 range. I have taken
> > a 5
> > week course in a private school and studied out of the Sybex, Steve Mc
> > Querry and Wendell Odom books and I have the Sybex Virtual Lab and
> > studied
> > from Troytech study guide. Two girls in my class with absolutely no tech
> > background or experience passed the exam on the first try.  What
> > gives?  It
> > is very frustrating not knowing what I am missing. Can anyone give me
> > advise
> > on if I should continue CISCO or move on to something different.




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ospf config [7:26311]

2001-11-14 Thread Mr. Richard L. Pickard

11/14/2001   7:22pm  Wednesday

Professionals,
The router name is area zero but it actually has six serial interfaces that
are in six different areas.
Each serial interface in connected to a 2501.

I am trying to run all six areas on the 2600.
I am most of the way there.  I think I need to add "OSPF point-to-point" &
"neighbor" commands
All six 2500s are connected on the ethernet side to a catalyst that is set up
as area zero.
That half on the config works.

Richard

//


AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf database

OSPF Router with ID (200.20.20.20) (Process ID 100)

Router Link States (Area 1)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 2)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 3)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020030x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 4)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2020020x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 5)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019730x8002 0x1E1A   0

Router Link States (Area 6)

Link ID ADV Router  Age Seq#   Checksum Link count
200.20.20.20200.20.20.2019750x8002 0x1E1A   0
AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf ?
 Process ID number
  border-routers   Border and Boundary Router Information
  database Database summary
  flood-list   Link state flood list
  interfaceInterface information
  mpls MPLS related information
  neighbor Neighbor list
  request-list Link state request list
  retransmission-list  Link state retransmission list
  summary-address  Summary-address redistribution Information
  virtual-linksVirtual link information
  |Output modifiers
  

AREA_ZERO#sho ip ospf 100
 Routing Process "ospf 100" with ID 200.20.20.20 and Domain ID 0.0.0.100
 Supports only single TOS(TOS0) routes
 Supports opaque LSA
 SPF schedule delay 5 secs, Hold time between two SPFs 10 secs
 Minimum LSA interval 5 secs. Minimum LSA arrival 1 secs
 Number of external LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of opaque AS LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
 Number of DCbitless external and opaque AS LSA 0
 Number of DoNotAge external and opaque AS LSA 0
 Number of areas in this router is 6. 6 normal 0 stub 0 nssa
 External flood list length 0
Area 1
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 2
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 3
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 4
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 5
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LSA 0. Checksum Sum 0x0
Number of DCbitless LSA 0
Number of indication LSA 0
Number of DoNotAge LSA 0
Flood list length 0
Area 6
Number of interfaces in this area is 1
Area has no authentication
SPF algorithm executed 2 times
Area ranges are
Number of LSA 1. Checksum Sum 0x1C1B
Number of opaque link LS

RE: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Hartnell, George

A very distant shout from the lives of some of those we owe...

Thomas Hobbs, Charles Babbage, Albert Smee, Alan Turing.  It never ceases to
amaze me that 'success', in modern America, equals money.  It used to equate
with knowledge and the gaining thereof.  Though some of the early digital
pioneers died poor and alone, I doubt the names of many contemporary CEOs
will last as long in history.  Nor do I feel their contribution(s) have been
of equal value.  The soul of this new machine deserves far better than greed
as the primary motivator.

Best, G.
Vice-president (honorary), Old Geezers Club




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CCIE#8387 [7:26309]

2001-11-14 Thread Nigel Taylor

Well as it would turn out it's my turn to write that awesome email...  I just
got back from RTP today where after checking my email, I was awarded
CCIE#8387. What a journey/process this has been and I must say that I'm
relieved that it's now over.  After countless hours of study and practicing
on
the "rack" the reward was most definitely worth the sacrifice.

I didn't sleep a any last night as I awaited the results of my lab score
which
I was unable to check until 12 noon today. So on that note I'm off to catch
up
on the sleep that escaped me last night.

More to follow once I get rested up..

Nigel Taylor
CCIE#8387 and all that other stuff.. :->




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GOOD STUFF [7:26308]

2001-11-14 Thread RCL

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RE: Dazed and Confused [7:6705]

2001-11-14 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Here's my advice...

Since you seem to have done everything else... Download all three bosons
(www.boson.com).  They have excellent practice exams and should get you over
the hump.

My normal study routine for any Cisco exam is... 
* Read the Exam Cram, Cisco press and anything else associated with the
target exam...  
* Practice the things I can do on my pod (insert joke here)... 
* Do the Bosons until I'm hitting %100... 

I took anywere from a week to a month to prepare for each exam, and I passed
them all first time using this technique.  Trust me, I'm no smarter then
anybody else on the list; if I can do it, you can do it.

In the interest of full disclosure, I've done some writting for them in the
past; but not for the CCNA track - so I'm pure on this one...

Thanks and good luck...

-=- Dennis

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If you can memorize the stuff in the Cisco ICND book, you'll do fine.


On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 03:50 PM, Thomas Richardson wrote:

> I have failed the CCNA test 6 times and am confused as to why. I feel I 
> have
> passed but I keep getting scores in the 829 - 839 range. I have taken 
> a 5
> week course in a private school and studied out of the Sybex, Steve Mc
> Querry and Wendell Odom books and I have the Sybex Virtual Lab and 
> studied
> from Troytech study guide. Two girls in my class with absolutely no tech
> background or experience passed the exam on the first try.  What 
> gives?  It
> is very frustrating not knowing what I am missing. Can anyone give me 
> advise
> on if I should continue CISCO or move on to something different.




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Re: RFC 768 UDP ? [7:26283]

2001-11-14 Thread Patricia Leeb-Hart

Oh, my.  One's head reels!

>>> "Phil Barker"  11/14/2001 12:55:16 PM >>>
Just been reading the above RFC. To quote 

"Checksum is the 16-bit one's complement of the one's
complement sum of a pseudo header of information from
the IP header, the UDP header, and the data, padded
with zero octets at the end (if necessary) to make a
multiple of two octets.

The pseudo header conceptually prefixed to the UDP
header contains the source address, the destination
address, the protocol, and the UDP length. This
information gives protection against misrouted
datagrams. This checksum procedure is the same as is
used in TCP."




This business about a pseudo header is bothering me.
If the IP header has already had a checksum that runs
across the source and destination address then why
does UDP do this again ? It also creates an obvious
dependancy of UDP on IP also.

Another question about padding making a multiple of
two octets. I seem to remember Novell IPX requiring
even numbered packets (2.X) maybe. Is this something
to do with 16 bit processors working more efficiently
with an even packet sizes i.e reading two bytes at a
time was less expensive processor-wise than reading an
odd byte ?

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2 questions (nat & tcp 3-way handshake) [7:26305]

2001-11-14 Thread Mirza, Timur

*   if u r doing nat outside to inside, is it normal behavior to get two
different nat addresses for the same source (in this case, 10.14.13.136)? i
know its going to 2 different destinations but shouldn't the source get the
same address?

ohdblndxnet-dr>sh ip nat tr ve

Pro Inside global Inside local  Outside local
Outside global
--- 151.144.200.14151.144.200.1410.250.250.123
10.14.13.136
create 03:07:37, use 00:00:24, left 00:59:35, flags: outside
--- 151.144.200.15151.144.200.1510.250.250.50
10.14.13.136
create 01:25:59, use 00:31:07, left 00:28:52, flags: outside

*   is there a debugging tool that will allow me to view the tcp 3-way
handshake? i know u can create an acl & debug it to view packets but can u
see the syn, syn ack & ack packets?

Timur Mirza
Principal Network Engineer
Network Transition Group
Irvine, California
Verizon Wireless
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949.697.7964 (c)




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Re: Dazed and Confused [7:6705]

2001-11-14 Thread C. Kolp

If you can memorize the stuff in the Cisco ICND book, you'll do fine.


On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 03:50 PM, Thomas Richardson wrote:

> I have failed the CCNA test 6 times and am confused as to why. I feel I 
> have
> passed but I keep getting scores in the 829 - 839 range. I have taken 
> a 5
> week course in a private school and studied out of the Sybex, Steve Mc
> Querry and Wendell Odom books and I have the Sybex Virtual Lab and 
> studied
> from Troytech study guide. Two girls in my class with absolutely no tech
> background or experience passed the exam on the first try.  What 
> gives?  It
> is very frustrating not knowing what I am missing. Can anyone give me 
> advise
> on if I should continue CISCO or move on to something different.




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RE: One subnet presents bad performance. How can I see [7:26302]

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Odette II

1st thing I would do is a Tracert from a Windows box, or Traceroute from a
Unix box on the "2nd" subnet to the target server/host and see where the
buck stops.  This will tell you if it is a Routing issue, which is what I
would first think of... but none-the-less, traceroute is your number one
test tool for walking up the troubleshooting chain.

Once you've verified cross-subnet communications (which will be proving both
physical and logical connections, the end result will define your next step
on how to rectify the problem.  You might even have a simple Subnet Mask
issue.

For looking at bad juju on the CAT5K, do a  to reset all the
counters for all ports, and then within a 5 to 10 minute period, do a  from
the CLI and look for high levels of packet errors.

Hope this helps.

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services

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Subject: One subnet presents bad performance. How can I see troubleshoot
[7:26299]


In one particular subnet, this morning users got timed out trying to ftp to
a certain server or Telnet to that server.
If I perform the operation from another subnet, that's work fine and no time
out or delays occur.

I used Netmon to analyze the telnet process both on the subnet "1" - the
subnet that is working  and subnet "2", which has presented problems.

I couldn't see any new protocol or broadcast that could cause the delay on
the network.
What's the command to see statistics or look for errors in the Catalyst 5000
series switch ?
How would be the steps to troublshoot this ?




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All you veterans... [7:26301]

2001-11-14 Thread Jeff D

Check it out for reimbursement:

https://www.gibill.va.gov/Education/LCVets.htm




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RE: Latency on the local access circuit [7:26263]

2001-11-14 Thread Alex Lei

Paul,

I have a feeling that you might have tried the below, but just for a
suggestion:

Is the ping time always high, or does it vary depending on the time of the
day? If it's the latter, it might be a congestion problem, and you can check
for the presence of FECN's on the frame switch. This happened to me once,
and it turned out to be an incorrect CIR on the PVC.

Alex


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RE: Uplink fast and Port fast [7:26236]

2001-11-14 Thread Hartnell, George

Trip over the same rock fantastic


Spanning Tree Protocol is where you want to go.  Here's a typical symptom:

Install new workstation on high end switch to troubleshoot multimedia
through firewall.  Connection fails. Link light fine. Realize all other cu
ports are static address servers.  Further realize DHCP uses broadcast for
address.  Static address on workstation connects.  Hu.

STP is the culprit.  Why it comes up as a default for simple non-redundant
route switched systems I'll leave up to the conjecturests. (Yes, I do know
the advertised reason.)  If you look at a STP packet through a sniffer, most
of the settings will become clear.  The most important is the time it takes
to become what's known as in a 'forwarding' state.  Typically this adds up
to 50 seconds.  Blocking--listening --learning and finally forwarding.

By the time most of a minute has passed, Microsoft devices needing an
address have given up.  They have no address and so, have no network
connection.  

I've tripped over this rock in my early days of Cisco switching.

I'm tempted to entirely disable STP, in my environment; point to point,
non-redundant, no ring.  There have been discussions on this in previous
threads.  I believe the answer was similar to my feelings --- why not, if
you don't need it?  Not sure of the C(isco)ompany line, though.

Port fast, simply enough, enables a quick STP forwarding state.  Uplink fast
is similar, but over trunked connections, I believe.  Other vendors have
other cutesy names for similar functions.

And, by the way, while STP is a basic, and comparatively simple, those, like
me, who have not much switching stick time, have found it confounding in
that 'real world' we frequent.  That world sometimes has some serious time
limitations.  I tend to learn more quickly by knowing what I looking for.

Very best, G.
VP OGC

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Nothing wrong with questions but for these real basic things a simple
search will work and you will learn more by looking around and reading:

http://www.cisco.com/

  Dave
 

William wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Any one know what is uplink fast and port fast?
> 
> Thanks a lot!!
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One subnet presents bad performance. How can I see troubleshoot [7:26299]

2001-11-14 Thread Brown, M

In one particular subnet, this morning users got timed out trying to ftp to
a certain server or Telnet to that server.
If I perform the operation from another subnet, that's work fine and no time
out or delays occur.

I used Netmon to analyze the telnet process both on the subnet "1" - the
subnet that is working  and subnet "2", which has presented problems.

I couldn't see any new protocol or broadcast that could cause the delay on
the network.
What's the command to see statistics or look for errors in the Catalyst 5000
series switch ?
How would be the steps to troublshoot this ?




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Re: CBWFQ (Class-Based Weighted Fair Queing) Question [7:26197]

2001-11-14 Thread VoIP Guy

TO sum it up, it guarantees and limits bandwidth.  The PQ gets services over
all the other queues (proably voice traffic) and then the CBQ gets serviced
according to the bandwidth you configure for each class.  So when you config
the bandwidth you could consider is guaranteing what you put down or
reserved.  It's all semantics.
The rest if WFQ'd and is a free for all in that queue, especially if the
traffic is not classified, it essentialy becomes round robin in that queue.



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>
> Studying CBWFQ, I was wondering if it guarantees bandwidth or just limits
> the bandwidth:
>
> 
> class-map my-map
>   match access-group 151
>
> policy-map my-policy
>   class my-map
>bandwidth 2048
>
> int fast0/0
> service-policy input my-policy
>
> access-list 151 permit ip 213.213.213.0 0.0.0.255 any
> --
> In this case is the 213.213.213.0 bandwidth limited to 2 Mbps ?
>
> Thanks is advance
>
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RE: Pinging spree [7:26268]

2001-11-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maybe I'm missing something here.  If everyone pings your backbone router
to check their connection, what is the likely result of blocking ping
replies?  Would it not be a rather severe increase in help desk calls,
asking why connectivity has been lost?

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 15/11/2001 09:36 am -
   

"Bill
Carter"
  
cc:
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[7:26268]
   
nobody@groups
   
tudy.com
   

   

   
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07:19
am
   
Please
respond
to
"Bill
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access-list 101 deny icmp any x.y.z.0 0.0.0.255 echo  (from anywhere to
your
IP subnet)
access-list 101 permit ip any any
int s0 (your interface facing the Internet)
ip access-group 101 in
no ip unreachables
no ip directed-broadcast



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Hi,

We are an ISP. We have everyone on a pinging spree pinging our backbone
router to check their connection. How do I disable that ethernet interface
to stop responding to ping requests (ICMP i suppose)

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books question [7:26294]

2001-11-14 Thread Stull, Cory

Can someone recommend good books on Cisco Call Manager / Unity / VOIP / QOS
???

I've checked out the internet but you can only get so much out of the
descriptions and reviews online.

Thanks
Cory




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Re: Switch 3508 and IP Phone / QoS [7:26225]

2001-11-14 Thread VoIP Guy

The back-up occours when you come from a gig port down to a 100 MB port.  By
nature there will be a back up at the queue of the 100 MB port because it
can't move the packets as fast as the 1000MB port.

Steve


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>
>
>   Dave
>
> William wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Who know whether 3508 can be integrated the IP Phone system ? OR whether
> Qos
> > is supported in 3508 ?
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Re: Passport 8006 and Cisco's switch [7:26227]

2001-11-14 Thread VoIP Guy

Passport 8100 is L2 like Cisco 6000
and 8600 is L3 like Cisco 6500

The 81's and 86's are cool becaue they support DiffServ by default and the
Cat's need a PFC.


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> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:50 AM
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> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Do anyone know which Cisco's switch can be well competitive
> > to Passport 8006
> > ??
> >
> > Thanks a lot!!!
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Re: Dial into Router [7:26287]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

Most common problem is not locking the modem DTE speed.  For some
stupid reason there is an option, often default, to have the modem DTE
speed follow the connect speed.  

  dave

416South wrote:
> 
> I'm able to get this modem to dial into the router just fine. Problem is
> still driving me nuts is that all the characters are showing up as garbage
> (x~ other programs as well.  Has anyone been successful with dialing
into
> routers that may have had the same problems?
> I'm using a USR modem set at
> 9600 baud
> flow control hardware
> Emulation is VT100
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Dial into Router [7:26287]

2001-11-14 Thread John Neiberger

What interface is the modem connected to?  If you're dialing into the
console port then you should turn off flowcontrol on the modem.  You should
use hardware flow control only if you're connecting to the AUX port.

I'm sure you've already checked this, but make sure the speed setting on the
line matches the modem.  The AUX and console ports have different default
settings.

HTH,
John

>>> " 416South"  11/14/01 2:42:19 PM >>>
I'm able to get this modem to dial into the router just fine. Problem is
still driving me nuts is that all the characters are showing up as garbage
(x~<`?z?33?)messed up stuff.  I am using Hyperterm and have tryed with
other programs as well.  Has anyone been successful with dialing into
routers that may have had the same problems?
I'm using a USR modem set at 
9600 baud 
flow control hardware
Emulation is VT100


Thanks




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Re: Dial into Router [7:26287]

2001-11-14 Thread John Neiberger

What interface is the modem connected to?  If you're dialing into the
console port then you should turn off flowcontrol on the modem.  You should
use hardware flow control only if you're connecting to the AUX port.

I'm sure you've already checked this, but make sure the speed setting on the
line matches the modem.  The AUX and console ports have different default
settings.

HTH,
John

>>> " 416South"  11/14/01 2:42:19 PM >>>
I'm able to get this modem to dial into the router just fine. Problem is
still driving me nuts is that all the characters are showing up as garbage
(x~<`?z?33?)messed up stuff.  I am using Hyperterm and have tryed with
other programs as well.  Has anyone been successful with dialing into
routers that may have had the same problems?
I'm using a USR modem set at 
9600 baud 
flow control hardware
Emulation is VT100


Thanks




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Dial into Router [7:26289]

2001-11-14 Thread 416South

I'm able to get this modem to dial into the router just fine. Problem is
still driving me nuts is that all the characters are showing up as garbage
(ø~<`?ú?³³?)messed up stuff.  I am using Hyperterm and have tryed with
other programs as well.  Has anyone been successful with dialing into
routers that may have had the same problems?
I'm using a USR modem set at 
9600 baud 
flow control hardware
Emulation is VT100


Thanks





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Dial into Router [7:26287]

2001-11-14 Thread 416South

I'm able to get this modem to dial into the router just fine. Problem is
still driving me nuts is that all the characters are showing up as garbage
(ø~<`?ú?³³?)messed up stuff.  I am using Hyperterm and have tryed with
other programs as well.  Has anyone been successful with dialing into
routers that may have had the same problems?
I'm using a USR modem set at 
9600 baud 
flow control hardware
Emulation is VT100


Thanks





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RE: CCIE LAB SETUP [7:26281]

2001-11-14 Thread 416South

You might want to look at the "fatkid.com" site also for some examples of
there lab


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Re: CAT 5500 backup [7:25969]

2001-11-14 Thread 416South

thanks all

worked just fine


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RE: 6500 conditions. [7:26272]

2001-11-14 Thread Jim Gillen

Jason

How fast are the hard disks on these servers you will be connecting.

I have had experience with this setup with a 6006 switch and the limitations
on the connections is the speed of the hard disk solution be it RAID etc.

For seventy servers I think the 30 Gig backplane will be more than ample.






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Hey there.

dig the list, always have.  I am looking to confirm a rumor on the cat 6513
switch.
I was thinking of doing gig Ethernet from my server farm to the switch
through the core.
Only problem, is I am looking at like 70 servers each with a gig port,
hopefully Ethernet.  This is about 5 blades in the cat 6513, with 16 ports
per blade.

Now the rumor.  Sounds like cisco's cat 6513 will only support 30 gig
backplane for the gig Ethernet line cards.  This means theoretical maxing
out the switch with 30 Ethernet gig ports to servers running gig nic's.
Has anyone else heard this?   I think the gig fiber solution scales to a 250
gig backplane, but this gig Ethernet limitation concerns me

thanks for all responses in advance!
jason
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RE: CCIE LAB SETUP [7:26281]

2001-11-14 Thread juno vtv

Please search the archives under ccie,lab,etc...  There have been numerous
discussions involving lab setup.

-junovtv


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RFC 768 UDP ? [7:26283]

2001-11-14 Thread Phil Barker

Just been reading the above RFC. To quote 

"Checksum is the 16-bit one's complement of the one's
complement sum of a pseudo header of information from
the IP header, the UDP header, and the data, padded
with zero octets at the end (if necessary) to make a
multiple of two octets.

The pseudo header conceptually prefixed to the UDP
header contains the source address, the destination
address, the protocol, and the UDP length. This
information gives protection against misrouted
datagrams. This checksum procedure is the same as is
used in TCP."




This business about a pseudo header is bothering me.
If the IP header has already had a checksum that runs
across the source and destination address then why
does UDP do this again ? It also creates an obvious
dependancy of UDP on IP also.

Another question about padding making a multiple of
two octets. I seem to remember Novell IPX requiring
even numbered packets (2.X) maybe. Is this something
to do with 16 bit processors working more efficiently
with an even packet sizes i.e reading two bytes at a
time was less expensive processor-wise than reading an
odd byte ?

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CCIE LAB SETUP [7:26281]

2001-11-14 Thread Jeff

Hey guys and gals, quick question... sorta...

We have some end-of-year-money (govt) and I need a quick list of a minimum
and the extras list of hardware for a good CCIE lab. Something that's
identical to the actual equipment used in the lab or that's pretty damn
close.

In other words, if you had a shitload of $ for a lab, what would you buy
yourself?

I do already have the following:
Cat5k w/RSm
7206 w/4port 10BaseT, 4port Fast-Serial
several 1900/2900's
2-804w/NT1 isdn routers
isdn simulator
2-2502
2-2600 w/WIC1

Cheers,
Jeff




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RE: Pinging spree [7:26268]

2001-11-14 Thread Bill Carter

access-list 101 deny icmp any x.y.z.0 0.0.0.255 echo  (from anywhere to your
IP subnet)
access-list 101 permit ip any any
int s0 (your interface facing the Internet)
ip access-group 101 in
no ip unreachables
no ip directed-broadcast



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Hi,

We are an ISP. We have everyone on a pinging spree pinging our backbone
router to check their connection. How do I disable that ethernet interface
to stop responding to ping requests (ICMP i suppose)

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NM-8AM in 3640 [7:26279]

2001-11-14 Thread Jeff

Anyone have this configured?

I'm looking for a quick config but am having trouble finding it on CCO.

Want to assign specific ip-address to each line and allow dial-in clients to
be able to browse internal network (dns/wins)... and use tacacs of course
for authentication with ACS.

Internet
 |
 3640
 |
 FireWall
 |
   LAN

Thanks in advance.




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RE: IP and ATM failed to deliver ? [7:26245]

2001-11-14 Thread jason

IMHO, this is a little vague and definitely out of date.

> "Although both ATM and IP held the promise of building
> converged
> networks in principle, neither actually delivered in
> practice. ATM
> networks were unsuccessful because they could not
> scale to the levels
> required for pure data applications. 

What is "pure data?" The term is meaningless. Does this mean circuit
emulation? Or . ?

And what is "impure data?"   ;-)

>Traditional IP
> networks failed
> because they used legacy routers that implemented
> forwarding and
> features in software. These routers were not able to
> achieve anywhere
> near the performance needed for delivering services at
> speed. 

The 75xx series are probably the ultimate in "software based" routers 
and they certainly are no longer adequate in the core of a medium to large
ISP network. IMHO, the problem is not just that much of the functionality is
implemented in software, but also that all the traffic must cross one or two
busses. However, newer routers like Cisco's GSR, Junipers, and others have
been deployed for years now. With crossbar style backbones and plenty of
ASICs, they are now faster than most ATM switches. OC-48 is no problem wit
packet over sonet, and OC-192 interfaces are shipping.

> So
> providers had to choose between providing simple
> connectivity with no
> services or providing poor performance with services enabled."

Does "no services" mean Sonet?

Services don't have be provided from the backbone ... indeed, a backbone
router should switch packets as fast as possible, meaning they should do as
little other work as possible. Services should be provided at the access
layer (check out the Cisco 1 series - its a service provider access
router marketed as a platform for providing services). This is what's done
in practice, and its what Cisco has been preaching for years with their
three layer model for network design.

ATM's selling point was for implementing a single infrastructure for both
voice and data. But its simply not economic at the very highest speeds
(switches aren't fast enough, and the segmentation and re-assembly hardware
in routers is too expensive and isn't fast enough). IMHO, this isn't because
of any failure of ATM so much as it is because the load on a big ISP's
backbone has grown so fast. At moderate to slower speeds, though, its useful
as a very flexible layer 2 for carrying all kinds of traffic.

Most of this is opinion, so YMMV.

the "other" jason


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Re: token ring frame format [7:26194]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Check IEEE 802.5. It's available for free here:

http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/

Priscilla


At 02:26 AM 11/14/01, jegcitroen wrote:
>Hi, guys
>
>anybody can tell me what the frame formats listed below look like:
>
>Active monitor present (AMP) MAC frame
>Standby monitor present MAC frame (SMP)
>Ring purge MAC frame
>Beacon MAC frame
>
>Thanks in advance.


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Re: IP and ATM failed to deliver ? [7:26245]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

That's called marketing-speak. You are having the right reaction of a true 
engineer (i.e. skepticism!) ;-) One of the biggest networks in the world is 
based on IP and ATM (and other technologies). It's called the Internet.

Priscilla

At 12:17 PM 11/14/01, John Green wrote:
>IP and ATM failed to deliver ?
>
>well i don't say this but got this from the web site
>of a competitor of cisco!!
>But that is besides the point. Below I have reproduced
>the text verbatim.
>what it says that both IP and ATM failed as carriers
>to carry puredata
>due to different reasons as explained below. IP due to
>the packet
>forwarding features in traditional routers (i guess
>cisco), and ATM
>because it itself could not scale to the levels
>required for pure data.
>well would some one explain this what and how exactly
>? specially how
>ATM fails to scale for data traffic ?
>"Although both ATM and IP held the promise of building
>converged
>networks in principle, neither actually delivered in
>practice. ATM
>networks were unsuccessful because they could not
>scale to the levels
>required for pure data applications. Traditional IP
>networks failed
>because they used legacy routers that implemented
>forwarding and
>features in software. These routers were not able to
>achieve anywhere
>near the performance needed for delivering services at
>speed. So
>providers had to choose between providing simple
>connectivity with no
>services or providing poor performance with services enabled."
>
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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:15 PM 11/14/01, John Green wrote:
>-
>and what would this mean ??
>where exactly is the equipment replicated ? is it one
>at customer
>access point and the other at the carrier provider's
>end? is this what
>is duplication and what is the context for
>"Multiple networks" ?

You'll have to tell us the context. Where did you get the wording below and 
what is it in reference too? It sounds like a bunch of "hand waving" that 
might make more sense with some context, but might not. Very few companies 
would implement multiple, parallel networks to meet availability goals, but 
some might.

The sentence at the end doesn't fit. Did it come from somewhere else? Or 
maybe it fits if you read this as advertising material from a service 
provider. Are they trying to justify why a customer should use them for 
redundancy or something? It's impossible to tell.

And I have a question for you. What does 42 mean? Thanks.

Priscilla

>
>"Multiple networks, however, are extremely expensive
>to build and
>maintain. Capital expenditure is high because
>equipment is replicated,
>and operation and maintenance costs are high because
>of the
>duplication of personnel and practices for each
>separate network. At
>the same time, competitive pressures in the
>communication industry are
>forcing providers to shift their business models from
>simply providing
>bandwidth to delivering revenue-generating,
>value-added services"
>
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RE: 6500 conditions. [7:26272]

2001-11-14 Thread Bullock, Jason

Hey there.

dig the list, always have.  I am looking to confirm a rumor on the cat 6513
switch.  
I was thinking of doing gig Ethernet from my server farm to the switch
through the core.
Only problem, is I am looking at like 70 servers each with a gig port,
hopefully Ethernet.  This is about 5 blades in the cat 6513, with 16 ports
per blade.  

Now the rumor.  Sounds like cisco's cat 6513 will only support 30 gig
backplane for the gig Ethernet line cards.  This means theoretical maxing
out the switch with 30 Ethernet gig ports to servers running gig nic's.
Has anyone else heard this?   I think the gig fiber solution scales to a 250
gig backplane, but this gig Ethernet limitation concerns me

thanks for all responses in advance!
jason




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Re: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

I have no idea what John Chambers is worth nor do I give a damn.  Of
coarse it's symbolic, he does not live paycheck to paycheck but what do
you expect, he give away all that he owns because things are not so good
now and ignore the past accomplishments???  

  Me thinks there are those out there displaying one of humanities worst
attributes, envy.  I gaurentee you none of us would be doing what we are
now if we lived in some socialist utopian egalitarian society.

 Off my soapbox, on to real work...

 Dave

Cisco Kid wrote:
> 
> Isnt John Chambers a multi billionaire already .
> 
> I am sure he will be making cut backs in his family
> budget, cutting holidays , selling his car etc etc
> . or am i being a little cheeky
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > At 12:15 AM 11/12/01, nrf wrote:
> > >Yeah, that was Chambers all-right.
> > >
> > >Now if I may digress...
> > >
> > >Funny thing, a lot of people dismissed Chambers's
> > one-dollar move as just a
> > >cheap PR stunt,
> >
> > Why are people so cynical? What are we teaching them
> > in schools? Don't get
> > me started. ;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > >in that he just wanted to look like he was sharing
> > in the
> > >pain of the 8500 layoffs, while not really sharing
> > the pain (i.e. he didn't
> > >give up any of his stock options, for example).
> > >
> > >Fair enough, but on the other hand, I didn't see
> > any other CEO's of
> > >companies that did big layoffs doing anything
> > comparable.  McNealy of Sun,
> > >Barrett of Intel, Roth of Nortel, Fiorina of HP,
> > McGinn/Schacht of Lucent,
> > >Armstrong of AT&T, Nasser of Ford (OK, Nasser isn't
> > there anymore),
> > >Tucci/Ruettgers of EMC, etc. etc.   While slashing
> > thousands from their
> > >payroll,did these guys cut their salaries at all?
> > >
> > >
> > >So the way I see it, while of course it is true
> > that Chambers could have
> > >done more to share the pain, on the other hand, he
> > did a whole lot more than
> > >those other guys did.  So you could say that
> > Chambers is a pretty cool guy,
> > >relatively speaking.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually I think I read in an article that
> > Chambers cut his salary to
> > >$1.00
> > > > a year. I am 99% sure this was Chambers who did
> > this, but have been known
> > >to
> > > > be wrong once in a while. ;-)
> > 
> >
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RE: Monitoringsoftware [7:26224]

2001-11-14 Thread Juan Blanco

In microsoft 4.0 and wk2000 this feature or tool is free

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Try going to google.com and doing a search on "free+snmp+monitor" and you
will find what you need.

-Kent

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Do any router/switch monitoring software shipped with some cisco product for
free?

Or any cheaper monitoring software ?




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Pinging spree [7:26268]

2001-11-14 Thread Charles Lomotey

Hi,

We are an ISP. We have everyone on a pinging spree pinging our backbone
router to check their connection. How do I disable that ethernet interface
to stop responding to ping requests (ICMP i suppose)

Charles





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Re: IP and ATM failed to deliver ? [7:26245]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

Be interesting to see the full context of this.  Where it came from
might clue one into any bias.  I do know the are issue scaling ATM SVC's
but we have a huge ATM backbone.  

  Dave

John Green wrote:
> 
> IP and ATM failed to deliver ?
> 
> well i don't say this but got this from the web site
> of a competitor of cisco!!
> But that is besides the point. Below I have reproduced
> the text verbatim.
> what it says that both IP and ATM failed as carriers
> to carry puredata
> due to different reasons as explained below. IP due to
> the packet
> forwarding features in traditional routers (i guess
> cisco), and ATM
> because it itself could not scale to the levels
> required for pure data.
> well would some one explain this what and how exactly
> ? specially how
> ATM fails to scale for data traffic ?
> "Although both ATM and IP held the promise of building
> converged
> networks in principle, neither actually delivered in
> practice. ATM
> networks were unsuccessful because they could not
> scale to the levels
> required for pure data applications. Traditional IP
> networks failed
> because they used legacy routers that implemented
> forwarding and
> features in software. These routers were not able to
> achieve anywhere
> near the performance needed for delivering services at
> speed. So
> providers had to choose between providing simple
> connectivity with no
> services or providing poor performance with services enabled."
> 
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Re: Uplink fast and Port fast [7:26236]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

Nothing wrong with questions but for these real basic things a simple
search will work and you will learn more by looking around and reading:

http://www.cisco.com/

  Dave
 

William wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Any one know what is uplink fast and port fast?
> 
> Thanks a lot!!
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RE: how much dram and flash [7:26255]

2001-11-14 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Try a show ver

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what command would tell me how much flash and memory i have.




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Latency on the local access circuit [7:26263]

2001-11-14 Thread Paul Jin

Hi All,

I am having issues with a remote router we turned up overseas..

The router is working fine and the local access circuit test
from the local telco comes back clean but,

I am getting ping times on a normal 100 byte packet of around 170ms -
220ms.  Similar type of connections all fall within around 70ms or so on
this type of pings, but on this one, it is much higher.

Has anyone had any issues similar where you had 100ms + added onto a ping
time by the local access circuit?

This is frame relay network and the problem site is a remote site.

On the hub router, 
1 - all other connections are fine.
2 - I have control of the frame relay switches and RTD within the
network is about 50ms, and usually in this type of scenario, I get
another 20ms + or so added to the ping router to router for the local access
circuits.
3 - Already checked the traffic shaping statements on the PVCs.
4 - Already checked the parameters on the frame switch for any wrong
parameters on the switches.  This is a complete FR PVC.
5 - I see no errors on the remote side's serial interface, or do I see any
errors on the port of the switch.

My next step is to put a ticket out for the local techs to swap out the
CSU/DSU and the cables...  And maybe they are not working 100% or
they introduced cables that might not be standard.

Has anyone had problems like this?

thanks,
Paul



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Unsubscription [7:26265]

2001-11-14 Thread Almeida, Renata

Please, remove me from this list

Thanks
Renata




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RE: Passport 8006 and Cisco's switch [7:26227]

2001-11-14 Thread Abu Salmaan Sheikh

Catalyst 6500 series.

Abu

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> Dear all,
> 
> Do anyone know which Cisco's switch can be well competitive 
> to Passport 8006
> ??
> 
> Thanks a lot!!!
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RE: Baystack 420-24T Multilink Trunking [7:26226]

2001-11-14 Thread Abu Salmaan Sheikh

The technology in Cisco is called EtherChannel.

Thanks
Abu


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> Dear all,
> 
> Any technology in Cisco can have similar function of 
> baystack's 420-24T
> Multilink Trunking?
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RE: Baystack 420-24T Multilink Trunking [7:26226]

2001-11-14 Thread Kent Hundley

Cisco calls this feature "Fast Etherchannel" or sometimes just
"Etherchannel".  Lots of info on it at their web site.

-Kent

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Dear all,

Any technology in Cisco can have similar function of baystack's 420-24T
Multilink Trunking?




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RE: Uplink fast and Port fast [7:26236]

2001-11-14 Thread Kent Hundley

These features are covered in detail on the cisco web site.  Go to cisco.com
and search for "uplink fast" and "portfast" and you will find exactly what
your looking for.

-Kent

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Dear all,

Any one know what is uplink fast and port fast?

Thanks a lot!!




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RE: Monitoringsoftware [7:26224]

2001-11-14 Thread Kent Hundley

Try going to google.com and doing a search on "free+snmp+monitor" and you
will find what you need.

-Kent

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Do any router/switch monitoring software shipped with some cisco product for
free?

Or any cheaper monitoring software ?




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RE: how much dram and flash [7:26255]

2001-11-14 Thread Jim Brown

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what command would tell me how much flash and memory i have.




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RE: how much dram and flash [7:26255]

2001-11-14 Thread Ozzie Sutcliffe

sh ver
oz


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Re: where exactly is the equipment replicated ? [7:26243]

2001-11-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

One thing that really has to be examined in scenarios like this is 
when to build your redundant data center and network yourself, or if 
better economies of scale come from putting the backup facilities 
into a well-connected hosting center.

Such centers often, but not always, have lots of experience setting 
up the redundancy mechanisms. It even can be different with different 
parts of the same company -- I've had much better support from AT&T 
in Nashville then in Washington DC (hi Michelle!)




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how much dram and flash [7:26255]

2001-11-14 Thread george gittins

what command would tell me how much flash and memory i have.




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Re: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]

2001-11-14 Thread Cisco Kid

Isnt John Chambers a multi billionaire already .

I am sure he will be making cut backs in his family
budget, cutting holidays , selling his car etc etc
. or am i being a little cheeky

Jonathan

--- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> At 12:15 AM 11/12/01, nrf wrote:
> >Yeah, that was Chambers all-right.
> >
> >Now if I may digress...
> >
> >Funny thing, a lot of people dismissed Chambers's
> one-dollar move as just a
> >cheap PR stunt,
> 
> Why are people so cynical? What are we teaching them
> in schools? Don't get 
> me started. ;-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> >in that he just wanted to look like he was sharing
> in the
> >pain of the 8500 layoffs, while not really sharing
> the pain (i.e. he didn't
> >give up any of his stock options, for example).
> >
> >Fair enough, but on the other hand, I didn't see
> any other CEO's of
> >companies that did big layoffs doing anything
> comparable.  McNealy of Sun,
> >Barrett of Intel, Roth of Nortel, Fiorina of HP,
> McGinn/Schacht of Lucent,
> >Armstrong of AT&T, Nasser of Ford (OK, Nasser isn't
> there anymore),
> >Tucci/Ruettgers of EMC, etc. etc.   While slashing
> thousands from their
> >payroll,did these guys cut their salaries at all?
> >
> >
> >So the way I see it, while of course it is true
> that Chambers could have
> >done more to share the pain, on the other hand, he
> did a whole lot more than
> >those other guys did.  So you could say that
> Chambers is a pretty cool guy,
> >relatively speaking.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually I think I read in an article that
> Chambers cut his salary to
> >$1.00
> > > a year. I am 99% sure this was Chambers who did
> this, but have been known
> >to
> > > be wrong once in a while. ;-)
> 
> 
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RE: encryption [7:26215]

2001-11-14 Thread guy shurki

use this command from the global config.


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RE: Uplink fast and Port fast [7:26236]

2001-11-14 Thread guy shurki

william,

there is a big diffrent between the two,

fastport allow you to move a port in a stp spanning tree protocol from block
mode to forward stat in 5 seconds, which usally take 50 sec, due to the stp
protocol.

you will use it only when you have a point to point connection like a work
station connected directlly to the switch, it you don't have a point to
point connection don't use it, you can creat network loop and unstable
network.

uplink fast
Uplink Fast is a Cisco specific feature that, when enabled on an access
switch, improves the convergence time of the Spanning-Tree Protocol (STP) in
the event of the failure of an uplink, if you have redundency of two links
that are connected to the router, you can excute the uplink fast command on
both links, in case of failure of directly connected line, the stp will open
the blocked link in 5 sec insted of 50 secounds.

guy




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RE: What was that acronym again?? [7:26165]

2001-11-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I've been wanting to introduce a new protocol.  It was IOS version 
(mumbble--11-something?) when IBM BSC support was introduced. At that 
point, all the legacy BSC Automatic Teller Machines could run over 
Asynchronous Transfer Mode.

It is my intention to introduce the Money Protocol for Local 
Stations, which cam run over Multiprotocol Label Switching. I won't 
have time to get the draft ready for the next IETF in Salt Lake City, 
but March or so in Minneapolis (MPLS) sounds quite appropriate.

On a related thread, Sprint's sales people put out a press release 
announcing they had their GSR's operational, which would give 
"increased latency and performance" to their customers.


>I have experience these same type of FCS errors as well! 
>
>That is hilarious...
>
>Pat
>
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>
>I was browsing the Open Forum on CCO and came across this gem in a reply to
>a query on CRC errors.  I think someone's been working in sales for too
>long, or else just used an acronym decoder without applying any thought.
>
>"Input errors are the numbers of CRC errors and framing errors. A CRC is a
>received frame with bad First Customer Ship (FCS) value, or checksum value.
>"
>
>JMcL




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RE: Uplink fast and Port fast [7:26236]

2001-11-14 Thread Dennis Laganiere

There are three major enhancements available for Spanning Tree, as it is
applied on Cisco devices:

PortFast - By default, all ports on a switch are assumed to have the
potential to have bridges or switches attached to them.  Since each of these
ports must be included in the STP calculations, they must go through the
four different states whenever the STP algorithm runs (when a change occurs
to the network).  Enabling PortFast on the user access ports is basically a
commitment between the Network Architect and the switch, agreeing that the
specific port does not have a switch or bridge connected, and therefore this
port can be placed directly into the Forwarding state; this allows the port
to avoid being unavailable for 50 seconds while it cycles through the
different bridge states, simplifies the STP recalculation and reduces the
time to convergence.

UplinkFast - Convergence time on STP is 50 seconds.  Part of this is the
need to determine alternative paths when a link between switches is broken.
This is unacceptable on networks where real-time or bandwidth-intensive
applications are deployed (basically any network). If the UplinkFast feature
is enabled (it is not by default) AND there is a least one alternative path
whose port is in a blocking state AND the failure occurs on the root port of
the actual switch, not an indirect link; then UplinkFast will allow
switchover to the alternative link without recalculating STP, usually within
2 to 4 seconds.  This allows STP to skip the listening and learning states
before unblocking the alternative port.

BackboneFast - BackboneFast is used at the Distribution and Core layers,
where multiple switches connect together, and is only useful where multiple
paths to the root bridge are available.  This is a Cisco proprietary feature
that speeds recovery when there is a failure with an active link in the STP.
Usually when an indirect link fails, the switch must wait until the maximum
aging time (max-age) has expired, before looking for an alternative link.
This delays convergence in the event of a failure by 20 seconds (the max-age
value).  When BackboneFast is enabled on all switches, and an inferior BPDU
arrives at the root port - indicating an indirect link failure - the switch
rolls over to a blocked port that has been previously calculated. The
primary difference between UplinkFast and BackboneFast is that BackboneFast
can detect indirect link failures, and is used at the Distribution and Core
layers; while UplinkFast is aware of only directly connected links, and is
used primarily on Access layer switches.  If UplinkFast is turned on for the
root switch, it will automatically disable it. Since BackboneFast is an
enhancement strictly for Core and Distribution layer devices, and these are
all Set-based switches, there is no command to enable it for IOS based
switches.

Hope that helps...

-=- Dennis 

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Dear all,

Any one know what is uplink fast and port fast?

Thanks a lot!!




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RE: ospf summerization....please help me... [7:26241]

2001-11-14 Thread guy shurki

please read the sybex book for routing ccnp, it look like this book that
you  are reading is realy bad.

sybex ccnp routing ospf cheapter


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Re: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

I ran into something similar the other day.  configured a 2610
ethernet for full-duplex which it accepted no problem.  This was
conected to a 4006, 10M full-duplex, started getting duplex mismatches. 
I haven't taken the time to look but me thinks the 2610 accepts
full-duplex but doesn't really support it.  I'm sure someone out there
knows for sure...

  Dave

sam sneed wrote:
> 
> if this is a 2948 G-L3, they do not support extended access lists. The IOS
> won;t give you an error, it just won't work. The cisco site backs this up
> at:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/29.html#intro
> 
> sam sneed
> 
> ""Andrew L""  wrote in message
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> >
> >   I'm using a 2900 Catalyst and embarassingly enough, I cannot fully
block
> > myself from port 80.  My ACL does block me from accessing the switch's
Web
> > interface, but I still surf the net.
> >
> >   I'm on port F0/2 and my router is on F0/9.  All ports are on the
default
> > VLAN.
> >
> >   Any help appreciated.  Thanks in advance!
> >
> > interface VLAN1
> > ip address 192.168.0.5 255.255.255.0
> > ip access-group 101 in
> > no ip directed-broadcast
> > no ip route-cache
> > !
> > access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq www
> > access-list 101 permit ip any any
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Re: Switch 3508 and IP Phone / QoS [7:26225]

2001-11-14 Thread MADMAN

Sure it's just a 8 port gig switch. What kind of QOS do you need when
you have a  gig of bandwidth??  K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid;)


  Dave

William wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Who know whether 3508 can be integrated the IP Phone system ? OR whether
Qos
> is supported in 3508 ?
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IP and ATM failed to deliver ? [7:26245]

2001-11-14 Thread John Green

IP and ATM failed to deliver ?

well i don't say this but got this from the web site
of a competitor of cisco!!
But that is besides the point. Below I have reproduced
the text verbatim.
what it says that both IP and ATM failed as carriers
to carry puredata
due to different reasons as explained below. IP due to
the packet
forwarding features in traditional routers (i guess
cisco), and ATM
because it itself could not scale to the levels
required for pure data.
well would some one explain this what and how exactly
? specially how
ATM fails to scale for data traffic ?
"Although both ATM and IP held the promise of building
converged
networks in principle, neither actually delivered in
practice. ATM
networks were unsuccessful because they could not
scale to the levels
required for pure data applications. Traditional IP
networks failed
because they used legacy routers that implemented
forwarding and
features in software. These routers were not able to
achieve anywhere
near the performance needed for delivering services at
speed. So
providers had to choose between providing simple
connectivity with no
services or providing poor performance with services enabled."

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