RE: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
I don't understand why the moderator for the group allowed this message. If somebody has a complaint to make, then he can make it without voicing all the abuse below. regards Tarig Original Message- From: Mphekeleli Dhlamini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Networks A Division of the Bytes Technology Group A Member of the Altron Group www.btgroup.co.za visit the press office @ www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Tel : +27 11 800 9336 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38209t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how difficult is the CCNP beta exams? [7:38210]
ladies and gents, i'll take a BCMSN beta exam this saturday. i have two questions. is it difficult than orginal BCMSN beta exams? are there no exhibit buttons? thank u for reading my articles. god bless u! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38210t=38210 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is h323 used when configuring IVR for Voice? [7:38211]
Hi, From the Cisco web site http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fvvfax_c/vvfivr.htm#xtocid14; The example showed that aaa authentication login h323 group radius. The h323 is indicated in the command reference as the list-name. But I could not find the list-name h323 being used in the configuration below. Where is the h323 being reference in the configuration ? When using IVR how the application knows that the router should use the list-name h323 to authenticate the user ? Thank-you. TCL IVR for Gateway1 (GW1) Configuration Example The following output is the result of using the show running-config command: GW1 Router# show running-config Building configuration... Current configuration: ! Last configuration change at 08:39:29 PST Mon Jan 10 2000 by lab ! version 12.2 service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec no service password-encryption ! hostname GW1 ! logging buffered 10 debugging aaa new-model aaa authentication login default local group radius aaa authentication login h323 group radius aaa authentication login con none aaa authorization exec h323 group radius aaa accounting connection h323 start-stop group radius enable password xxx ! username lab password 0 lab ! resource-pool disable ! clock timezone PST -8 ip subnet-zero ip host baloo 1.14.124.xxx ip host dirt 223.255.254.254 ip host rtspserver3 1.14.1xx.2 ip host rtspserver1 1.14.1xx.2 ! mgcp package-capability trunk-package mgcp default-package trunk-package isdn switch-type primary-net5 isdn voice-call-failure 0 ! tftp://dirt/hostname/WV/en_new/ call application voice debit_card tftp://dirt/Router/scripts.new/app_debitcard.tcl call application voice debit_card uid-len 6 call application voice debit_card language 1 en call application voice debit_card language 2 ch call application voice debit_card set-location ch 0 tftp://dirt/hostname/WV/ch_new/ call application voice debit_card set-location en 0 tftp://dirt/hostname/WV/en_new/ call application voice debit_card_rtsp tftp://dirt/IVR 2.0/scripts.new/app_debitcard.tcl call application voice debit_card_rtsp uid-len 6 call application voice debit_card_rtsp language 1 en call application voice debit_card_rtsp language 2 ch call application voice debit_card_rtsp set-location ch 0 rtsp://rtspserver1:554/ call application voice debit_card_rtsp set-location en 0 rtsp://rtspserver1:554/ mta receive maximum-recipients 0 ! controller E1 0 clock source line primary pri-group timeslots 1-31 ! controller E1 1 ! controller E1 2 ! controller E1 3 ! gw-accounting h323 gw-accounting h323 vsa gw-accounting voip ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 1.14.128.35 255.255.255.xxx no ip directed-broadcast h323-gateway voip interface h323-gateway voip id gk1 ipaddr 1.14.128.19 1xxx h323-gateway voip h323-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 5# ! interface Serial0:15 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast isdn switch-type primary-net5 isdn incoming-voice modem fair-queue 64 256 0 no cdp enable ! interface FastEthernet0 ip address 16.0.0.1 255.255.xxx.0 no ip directed-broadcast duplex full speed auto no cdp enable ! ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 1.14.128.33 ip route 1.14.xxx.0 255.xxx.255.xxx 16.0.0.2 ip route 1.14.xxx.16 255.xxx.255.240 1.14.xxx.33 no ip http server ! radius-server host 1.14.132.2 auth-port 1645 acct-port 1646 radius-server key cisco radius-server vsa send accounting radius-server vsa send authentication ! voice-port 0:D cptone DE ! dial-peer voice 200 voip incoming called-number 53 destination-pattern 34. session target ipv4:16.0.0.2 dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric codec g711ulaw ! dial-peer voice 102 pots application debit_card_rtsp incoming called-number 3450072 shutdown destination-pattern 53. port 0:D ! dial-peer voice 202 voip shutdown destination-pattern 34. session protocol sipv2 session target ipv4:16.0.0.2 dtmf-relay cisco-rtp codec g711ulaw ! dial-peer voice 101 pots application debit_card incoming called-number 3450070 destination-pattern 53. port 0:D ! gateway ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 password xxx ! ntp clock-period 17180740 ntp server 1.14.42.23 end __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38211t=38211 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aironet to Cable Modem [7:38212]
First off I am not familiar with the aironet line! I have a cable modem (dynamic ip address) connected to a Aironet 350 AP (AIR-AP352E2C). I am able to get the aironet dynamic ip assigned to the ethernet interface (from the cable company dhcp servers). I was able to assign a static ip to the AP radio interface and connect via my wireless nic (static ip). But, I cannot access the internet via the cable modem. My guess is that it is more of a switch then a router. I was hopeful it had a little bit of routing capabilities. I assume that because the ethernet int and AP radio int are on different subnets that is the reason I can't talk. But, again I am not sure and hope someone can help me out!!! I would like any advice to get this working without any other equipment. I was hoping to do this without using one of my routers! Also, is there any way to configure it as a DHCP server? And any config advice would be helpful!!! Thanks for any advice you may give me ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38212t=38212 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please advise about ccnp beta exam.. [7:38214]
Hi all, I am a CCNA, and pursuing CCNP at the moment. Could u guys,please give more information about CCNP beta exam, its differences from the real CCNP exam. I am considering to take the all in one (BSCN,BCMSN,BCRAN) since my place is far away from the test place. Please advise about this exam, the toughness, and really appreciate if ones who took it can share his/her experience. And thanks to whom participates this groupstudy.. It's really good for sharing information and knowledge. Thanks and looking forward to your advise Guys, Hinwoto Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38214t=38214 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etherchannel/ISL trunk failure [7:38085]
Kelly great post and I do appreciate the help, I no think my englesh was that bad (just kidding), been living in Europe too long obviously. Back to the problem anyway, I removed the ISL trunk from the etherchannel and it's all OK now, no errors for the past couple of days. Problem is it's at an exhibition so it's fairly important it doesn't go down. The reasoning behind the ISL trunk was an application that couldn't handle an address with any zeros, so we needed an extra VLAN. The network requirements have a habit of changing rapidly too so it made sense to implement it at the time. My skill level? hmm not sure either, but you're right keep it simple works best for me too. cheers Pat -- email me on : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kelly Cobean wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'll make you a deal...I won't pose design questions in response to your fault questions when you can criticize me for trying to help you using something other than one big, fragmented run-on sentence. Worse than my unsolicited design suggestions are the inability of most people to form a coherent thought in writing to convey their point. It makes it difficult, if not impossible to HELP with the problem at hand when you must focus so hard on deciphering the broken sentence that you can't focus on the technology. Now, I certainly get your point that I'm not sticking strictly to the question at hand, but one of the best design philosophies (which determines in part your troubleshooting methodologies) out there is Keep It Simple. There is no need to apply a technology if it's not going to be used. I suggest this merely because I don't know you, your skill level, or your future plans for this network. My suggesting that you not use ISL if there are no plans for it in the future was an attempt to save you the heart-ache of chasing down a problem that needn't exist, however educational the answer may be. I also caveated my statement with unless you are preparing for multiple VLAN's down the road, so be as scalable as you want, just don't assume that I know your future plans. I'm merely analyzing the problem in front of me. After all, you did say that you had to get this up very quickly. Also note that I DID included some other thoughts for you to check on if diagnosing the problem to resolution is the path you're on, so my message wasn't entirely wasted on babbling about my perceived over-engineering of your network. As with all lists, responses to questions are take it or leave it. If you don't like mine that's fine, but maybe someone else on the list was able to benefit from it. In the future, I'll refrain from any attempts to suggest alternatives to problematic implementations. Apparently Arrogant, Kelly Cobean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Donlon Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Etherchannel/ISL trunk failure [7:38085] I love this group, how's about scalability, new requirements, sorry for being sarcastic but it's not about the design, simple as it is, but a fault cheers -- email me on : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kelly Cobean wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Based on the fact that you are only using a single VLAN, I would first question why you are using using ISL trunking? Since ISL is used for Inter-VLAN routing, it's an unnecessary configuration, unless you are preparing for multiple VLAN's down the road. Have you configured VTP appropriately? Also, I would check for any ARP abnormalities in your CAM and ARP tables. Kelly Cobean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Donlon Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Etherchannel/ISL trunk failure [7:38085] Hi everyone I have a strange problem I'd like to know if anyone can explain why it happened and how to prevent it happening again. I have two Cat 5500s connected using four 10/100 MB port configured as an etherchannel, it was also configured as an ISL trunk. It's a very simple network with these two switches, a PIX and only VLAN 1 is used. The problem occurred when clients DNS requests failed. The DNS is an NT server which was connected to Switch B, the PIX was connected to Switch A and the default gateway for VLAN 1 was on Switch A. From a PC on Switch A you could ping the NT server and the default gateway and PIX etc, but the NT server couldn't ping the default gateway. Moving a PC to Switch B replicated the problem, I could ping everything else on the network but not the default gateway. When I checked the switches I could see some errors on the first port of the channel, a few align, fcs and runts, I then noticed the port was leaving and joining the spanning tree every 30 seconds or so. Removing the
Re: RFC on Private IP Address v.s. RIP/IGRP [7:38190]
Chuck, Your non sequitor is minor if it's only one of those nights My non sequitor is one of those days and nights. Anyway, the reason i was curios about this was that most of the labs i've done (or remembered) were done with classless for the 172.16 and 192.168. Back when i did the RIP/IGRP to study for the CCNA i was using class A address ranges. I guess it's time to hit the rack. Thanks. Elmer - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Cebuano Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: RFC on Private IP Address v.s. RIP/IGRP [7:38190] interesting way to put the question. but.. 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16 are CIDR notation. any subnets within those ranges would default to the classfull values based upon the first couple of bits. remembering that 0 in the first position is class A, 10 in the first two positions indicate class B, and 110 in the first three positions indicate class C. RIP and IGRP are classful, and would note the classful values. - Original Message - From: Cebuano Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Wednesday, 13 March, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: RFC on Private IP Address v.s. RIP/IGRP [7:38190] Ladies and gents, If you are all aware of the RFC on Private IP Address allocation, it specifies that 172.16.0.0 uses /12 and 192.168.0.0 uses /16. Now does this mean our old friends RIP and IGRP are aware of this when they perform the First-Octet Rule to apply the mask for these network ranges accordingly? Please someone clarify this subtle issue. Thanks. Elmer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38216t=38190 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stacking 3548s [7:38208]
The max number of Cat3548's in a Cluster is 9. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stacking 3548s [7:38208] What's the maximum number of Catalyst 3548s can I stack them together? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38217t=38208 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Default Weight in BGP [7:38191]
Actually the value is from 0 to 65535, but this does bring up a questionIf weight is used internally on a router to prefer one egress path over another, and the attribute is never advertised to it's peers, then why would Cisco say the following about the Weight attribute: The administrative weight is local to the router. A weight can be a number from 0 to 65535. Any path that a Cisco router originates will have a default weight of 32768; other paths have weight 0 I guess I'm confused about this statement. If it's an internal-only value, then how would a Cisco router ever use a value of 0? Are they giving us information about other vendors products here, since as I understand it, weight is a Cisco proprietary attribute? Confused, Kelly Cobean, CCNP,CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Default Weight in BGP [7:38191] Just out of intrest, what does that have to do with BGP weights? BGP weights are used to define the exit point from a router when you want to perfer one path over another, cisco's default is 32768 but I think the weight can be anything up to 4million... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38218t=38191 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to find Protocol Type Code in Cisco CD ? [7:38213]
Try RFC 1700 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1700.html Phil. --- Ruen-Chze Loh wrote: Hi, I tried searching the Cisco CD for the table of Protocol Type Code used in Source Route Bridge administrative filter, but could not find any of the table. Can someone indicate to me where to find it in Cisco CD? What I need is a table for example: 8137-8138 Novell 80D5IBM SNA Service over Ethernet Thank-you. = Thank-you. Regards, Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38219t=38213 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stacking 3548s [7:38208]
Keep in mind that 7 is the max number of hops if using STP. STP dosen't treat the cluster as one hop. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Kelly Cobean wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The max number of Cat3548's in a Cluster is 9. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stacking 3548s [7:38208] What's the maximum number of Catalyst 3548s can I stack them together? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38220t=38208 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stacking 3548s [7:38208]
Cisco Switch Clustering Breakthrough Cisco Switch Clustering technology enables up to 16 interconnected Catalyst 3500 XL, Catalyst 2900 XL, and Catalyst 1900 switches, regardless of geographic proximity, to form a single IP management domain. Cisco Switch Clustering supports a broad range of standards-based connectivity options and configurations to deliver levels of performance that are scalable to meet customer requirements. Switch Cluster connectivity options for the Catalyst 3500 Series XL include Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Fast EtherChannel, low-cost Cisco GigaStack GBIC, Gigabit Ethernet, and Gigabit EtherChannel connectivity. Because the technology is not limited by proprietary stacking modules or stacking cables, Cisco Switch Clustering expands the traditional stacking domain beyond a single wiring closet and lets users mix and match interconnections to meet specific management, performance, and cost requirements. Catalyst 3500 XL switches can be configured either as command or member switches in a Cisco switch stack or cluster. The command switch serves as the single IP address management point and disburses all management instructions dictated by the network administrator. Command switches can cluster up to 15 additional interconnected member switches regardless of interconnection media. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stacking 3548s [7:38208] What's the maximum number of Catalyst 3548s can I stack them together? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38221t=38208 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Latency in Telnet, intervlan routing [7:38187]
make sure your route table isnt goofy. also maybe check the arp cache for mac/ip problems. i have seen this happen with a faulty arp cache. i cleared the arp cache, reset the devices, and verify the arp cache again. hope this helps -Original Message- From: Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Latency in Telnet, intervlan routing [7:38187] I do Telnet from a client on VLAN1 and I reach the server just fine. VLAN1 is where the server is also connected to. I do Telnet from any other VLAN: Telnet takes a long time, then it times out. That tells me it is something in the InterVLAN routing. What would be the next step to troubleshoot the problem ? I look into the Cat 5000 configuration but I can't see any relevant changes that caused the problem. If I use a Sniffer, I noticed a delta time larger for the Telnet. However, I don't see any brodcast that could such delay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38222t=38187 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38223t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SwitchSim [7:38112]
SwitchSim doesn't ring a bell in my head, but feel free to use my Catalyst 5000 application on my RouterChief site (link below). It will practice you in the set-based commands that is has, which is different from the IOS language, and you will need to know those for the Switching Exam. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Rafay Aslam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SwitchSim [7:38112] Hi Guys I found this product SwitchSim, it is a Cisco Switch Simulator ( not from Cisco) Let me know your exprience if you have use this simulator in the past. Thanks, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38224t=38112 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
I don't understand why the moderator for the group allowed this message. If somebody has a complaint to make, then he can make it without voicing all the abuse below. regards Tarig Not all messages are moderated, only those that have certain words or phrases. Moderation involves volunteers that simply don't have the time to go over every message. Original Message- From: Mphekeleli Dhlamini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Networks A Division of the Bytes Technology Group A Member of the Altron Group www.btgroup.co.za visit the press office @ www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Tel : +27 11 800 9336 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38225t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please advise about ccnp beta exam.. [7:38214]
The foundation exam is almost similiar to the individual exams except that the pressure is greater... I took the foundation exam and while it certainly is a faster way of clearing the certification, I don't really enjoyed the experience. Too stressful. The paper is divided into three sections which will typically have 50 to 60 questions each. And you would need to pass all three sections before you are considered to have passed the paper. This would also mean that as there are less questions in each section, each question will carry a bigger weightage. This can work both ways... get it right and your scores goes up higher, get it wrong and it also drops more. hinwoto wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I am a CCNA, and pursuing CCNP at the moment. Could u guys,please give more information about CCNP beta exam, its differences from the real CCNP exam. I am considering to take the all in one (BSCN,BCMSN,BCRAN) since my place is far away from the test place. Please advise about this exam, the toughness, and really appreciate if ones who took it can share his/her experience. And thanks to whom participates this groupstudy.. It's really good for sharing information and knowledge. Thanks and looking forward to your advise Guys, Hinwoto Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38226t=38214 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
csma/cd and switch [7:38227]
a node connects to a switch and switch in turn connects to all other nodes. hence in effect when a node transmits it is the only one transmitting on that wire and hence gets the full bandwidth in its transmit wire (eg in 10BaseT). (csma/cd not applicable here,right ? because it is the only node transmitting on it transmit wire connecting to the switch) But what if two or more nodes are trying to send packets (rather frames) to one particular node. say two frames from two different nodes, destined for node A arrive in the switch and now how does the switch send the frame (frames), or which frame would it send to node A ? and what happens to the other frame ? is it discarded by the switch or is it quequed in the memory and is sent next. how does it work ? csma/cd would apply here and bandwidth would have to be shared in such a case ??? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38227t=38227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: csma/cd and switch [7:38227]
I did't read all the questions. It depends on the switch, but it probably is FIFO, but switches may be able to do PQ, WFQ, etc. Usually it's fifo. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It get q'd -- RFC 1149 Compliant. John Green wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a node connects to a switch and switch in turn connects to all other nodes. hence in effect when a node transmits it is the only one transmitting on that wire and hence gets the full bandwidth in its transmit wire (eg in 10BaseT). (csma/cd not applicable here,right ? because it is the only node transmitting on it transmit wire connecting to the switch) But what if two or more nodes are trying to send packets (rather frames) to one particular node. say two frames from two different nodes, destined for node A arrive in the switch and now how does the switch send the frame (frames), or which frame would it send to node A ? and what happens to the other frame ? is it discarded by the switch or is it quequed in the memory and is sent next. how does it work ? csma/cd would apply here and bandwidth would have to be shared in such a case ??? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38230t=38227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nter-Vlan routing [7:38088]
This link will help to find any feature supported on any platform and the IOS required. Otherwise it is difficult at best to figure out the supported features. http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/FeatureNav/FN.pl Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38231t=38088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: frame-relay interface cannot ping itself [7:38205]
This was just addresses two days ago and John Neiberger gave a more eloquent answer but if you really need to ping yourself build a map to yourself. Going to be a lot of blind engineers out there :) Dave Ellis Lam wrote: I connect router A and router B with frame-relay. I am able to ping from A to B but not able to pint router A's interface to B, why ? -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38232t=38205 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
the place values for base 16 numbering starting from right to left are 16^0, 16^1,16^2,16^3, etc. In case your wondering 16^1 means 16 to the power of 1, or just 16. Like wise 16^3 = 16 * 16 * 16. So if you hex value is 2f2, starting with the right most 2, (16^0 * 2)+ (16^1 * 15) + (16^2 * 2). Which breaks down to 2+240+512= 754 in base 10. Also hex digits are 0-9, A=10, B=11,C=12,D=13,E=14,F=15. Hope this helps if you still need clarification let me know, I just took a hudge math coarse last semester and this stuff is still floating around in my head. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38233t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Not sure what you mean, I just use a calculator F00 = 3840 2F2 = 754 dave Mckenzie Bill wrote: Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38234t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: when do we need to nail the DR priority? [7:38236]
That is always when using Broadcast or non-broadcast networks right? Only on NBMA. The concept of hub and spoke is not meaningful on broadcast or point-to-point media. - Original Message - From: Chua, Parry To: Michael C. Popovich ; Bhisham Bajaj ; Shadi ; ccielab Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: RE: when do we need to nail the DR priority? You must ensure that the spoke's can never be a DR or not even a BDR, set it priority to 0 is the answer. Regards Parry -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38236t=38236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] All headers [7:38235]
Let me clarify one thing to the group here.I've been reading the postings from different people who are posting reguarly here with some valuable inputs.I respect the group and the people involved in it very much,from Priscilla,Ole,Chuck,Larry,Paul, you name them.I have great respect for them.I'm also pursuing my career in these field and in that way,I'm learning a lot here. FRANK,talking about my racist(yes,I might have been rude,but racist...) and my country.That's another issue because I know some very good people in America who will read my comment from a different point of view than you see it.Again,I can tell you a thing or two about racists like you and America in America who are making it difficult for some countries to develop to their full potential because of your contradictory strategies and measures you deploy to destabilise or govern the world. I might offend some people who are not like you FRANK,before I reply to your issue against my country (including my so called racism),I will reply to you personally because I have a lot to tell Americans like you who are a disgrace to their own country. To Paul and others who might have been offended by these remarks,my sincere apologies.I will deal with these PALOOKA specifically. My apologies again. Mphekeleli. Frank Kim 2002-03-14 01:51:02 Mphekeleli, What you've just said below is very unprofessional; in fact I think it shows to the whole group of people in this list that you are one racist individual. There are many ways to tell these people not to do it again. Where did you go to school? You are putting a bad image of yourself for your country. We Americans do not talk/speak/write in such a racist/rude way. That's why in America, there is a diversed group of cultures living here. Because we are polite/understanding/forgiving. Please go learn some manners. -Frank Date: 3/13/2002 17:02:29 -0500 From: Mphekeleli Dhlamini Reply-to: Mphekeleli Dhlamini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] All headers I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38235t=38235 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stacking 3548s [7:38208]
This doesn't mean that you should do this though be careful with openview... it starts acting squirly when you cluster switches. And issuing commands from a telnet session to manage 16 switches is flakey at best. Now if you are not a OV user and you have cisco works installed, clustering is pretty cool. Still not like having a separate ip on each switch, but decent. -Patrick out of curiosity, are you using registered addresses? Or just ultraconservative on the ip space? :) Kelly Cobean 03/14/02 09:24AM Man, I'm glad you said that. My boss (who did the ordering of all of our Cat3548's) said the limit was 9He's a pretty smart guy, so I took him at face value...Shame on me! Thanks for the correctionThat helps alot!!! Kelly Cobean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Stacking 3548s [7:38208] Cisco Switch Clustering Breakthrough Cisco Switch Clustering technology enables up to 16 interconnected Catalyst 3500 XL, Catalyst 2900 XL, and Catalyst 1900 switches, regardless of geographic proximity, to form a single IP management domain. Cisco Switch Clustering supports a broad range of standards-based connectivity options and configurations to deliver levels of performance that are scalable to meet customer requirements. Switch Cluster connectivity options for the Catalyst 3500 Series XL include Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Fast EtherChannel, low-cost Cisco GigaStack GBIC, Gigabit Ethernet, and Gigabit EtherChannel connectivity. Because the technology is not limited by proprietary stacking modules or stacking cables, Cisco Switch Clustering expands the traditional stacking domain beyond a single wiring closet and lets users mix and match interconnections to meet specific management, performance, and cost requirements. Catalyst 3500 XL switches can be configured either as command or member switches in a Cisco switch stack or cluster. The command switch serves as the single IP address management point and disburses all management instructions dictated by the network administrator. Command switches can cluster up to 15 additional interconnected member switches regardless of interconnection media. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stacking 3548s [7:38208] What's the maximum number of Catalyst 3548s can I stack them together? Thanks! Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38237t=38208 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Hex is based on 16, where Dec is based on 10. When you see a value, no matter if it's in dec, hex, bin, or something else, think of each number as being number 0 (the right one), 1, 2, 3, and so on. If you for instance have the decimal value 579: Number 0 would be 9 Number 1 would be 7 Number 2 would be 5 When you have decimal, the system is based on 10, so you will have to use 10 to calculate your way to a result. The number 579 can be calculated this way: 9 * 10^0 = 9 + 7 * 10^1 = 70 + 5 * 10^2 = 500 = Result = 579 This seems pretty silly to calculate a value like that, but that's because we're used to see the value in a 10-based format. Okay, let's take your first 16-based (hex) value - F00. Again, from right to left: Number 0 is 0 Number 1 is 0 Number 2 is F (15 in decimal) Instead of using the number 10 to calculate, you will need to use the number 16 to calculate: The value F00 in hex can be calculated this way: 0 * 16^0 =0 + 0 * 16^1 =0 + F * 16^2 = 3840 = Result = 3840 You can with hex make words if that helps you remember the value, as long as you do not use letters above F. For instance, the value ABBA would be a good one to use for a Swedish Ericsson Server (if they exist), and the value would be calculated like this: A * 16^0 =10 + B * 16^1 = 176 + B * 16^2 = 2816 + A * 16^3 = 40960 = Result = 43962 If this is still a little confusing, the let's continue with your second value, and break it up a little more: 2F2 First number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^0 (1). The result is 2. Second number is F (15 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^1 (16). The result is 240. The third number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^2 (256). The result is 512. The final result will therefore give us 2+240+512 = 754 decimal. Conversions between all systems other than decimal is much easier, because they are based on what I call double up. If you start with binary. Binary is based on 2. When you double up, you will get 4. Next time you will get 8. 8 is the number that Octal is based on, but that's not used much anymore. Next time you will get 16. 16 is the number that Hex is based on. Now, you can see that going from hex to binary will be easier. Hex numbers goes from 0 to 15, and binary goes from 0 to 1. So that means that four binary numbers matches one hex number. An example: The hex number F00 again. If you take each number and convert it to binary, it is much easier. 0 = 0 = F = Result = You can now convert the binary number to octal, which is based on three binary numbers instead of four. First, put spaces in between every third to make it easier: 111 100 000 000 You can see that it is the same binary number as above, but it looks different now. Now convert to Octal: 000 = 0 000 = 0 100 = 4 111 = 7 Octal result = 7400 Some people prefer to use binary when converting from hex to decimal. Again, let's take the F00. From Hex to Bin: F 0 0 = Let's split the binary numbers up: 0 * 2^0 (1) = 0 0 * 2^1 (2) = 0 0 * 2^2 (4) = 0 0 * 2^3 (8) = 0 0 * 2^4 (16)= 0 0 * 2^5 (32)= 0 0 * 2^6 (64)= 0 0 * 2^7 (128) = 0 1 * 2^8 (256) = 256 1 * 2^9 (512) = 512 1 * 2^10 (1024) = 1024 1 * 2^11 (2048) = 2048 RESULT = 3840 If you look at the first calculation we did in the beginning, you can see that I came to the same result. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Mckenzie Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38238t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to
RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
Atlantis Partners is just a bad company all around, from what I can tell. Here in Denver they post fake job openings just to get people to send in resumes to fill their databases. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that they did this. Why would anyone use a company that does stuff like that?? John Sean Knox 3/13/02 3:02:29 PM I would say it's a sign that recruiting firms, such as Atlantis, don't have a clue, as it has always been. - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word junior is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38239t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
St Louis Study Group [7:38240]
Hello all, Does anyone know if their is a study group in St Louis Missouri area? Thanks in advance. Kevin McCarty Computer Sciences Corporation Defense Sector 618 622 4757 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38240t=38240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
Why dont the group allow the message in the groupstudy?/ There are alots of Vietnamese Student here !!! Ignore it and Move on Hamdi, Tarig wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I don't understand why the moderator for the group allowed this message. If somebody has a complaint to make, then he can make it without voicing all the abuse below. regards Tarig Original Message- From: Mphekeleli Dhlamini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban Andrew Larkins BCom, CCNP, CCDA Bytes Technology Networks A Division of the Bytes Technology Group A Member of the Altron Group www.btgroup.co.za visit the press office @ www.itweb.co.za/office/bytes Tel : +27 11 800 9336 Fax : +27 11 800 9496 Mobile : +27 83 656 7214 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message may contain information which is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and return and/or destroy the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38241t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
They do that in Boston as well. TechieGold.com is thier website as well, which I suspect has fake jobs as well. Furthermore, in our area they merged with Remington. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Atlantis Partners is just a bad company all around, from what I can tell. Here in Denver they post fake job openings just to get people to send in resumes to fill their databases. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that they did this. Why would anyone use a company that does stuff like that?? John Sean Knox 3/13/02 3:02:29 PM I would say it's a sign that recruiting firms, such as Atlantis, don't have a clue, as it has always been. - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word junior is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38243t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542]
I was under the impression that some asian countries used the numerically consistent notation y/m/d :-) This of course demonstrates that the world is a big place with many different outlooks. We should be able to accomodate them all and Tim is therefore free to put whatever sig he likes at the bottom of his mails. rgds Marc Tom Lisa wrote: Everywhere except U.S. civilian usage. U.S. Military uses day/mo/yr format. At least it did when I was a member 20 years ago. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: european-format? I thought it was everywhere except the US format! ;-) JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 01:47 pm - Steven A. Ridder Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2002 12:26 pm Please respond to Steven A. Ridder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] Australia uses european-format time as well? -- RFC 1149 Compliant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... However if you do this I suggest you use a less ambiguous date format - my first reaction is oh, so you did the lab in January - but did you pass?? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/02/2002 10:57 am - Jeff Buehler Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2002 09:29 am Please respond to Jeff Buehler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: HELP !! CCIE 2B or NOT? [7:36542] Perhaps it would be more appropriate to put your lab date instead of the CCIE Written if you want to demonstrate where you are in your pursuit...for example. CCIE R/S LAB 6-1-2002 RTP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38244t=36542 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Bill, Hex is equivalent to Base16 numbering. Decimal is really Base10 numbering. Let's look at an example of Base10 numbering broken down into it's components, then we'll tackle your examples.. The decimal number 4243 drawn out in Base10 is as follows: (4x10^3) + (2x10^2) + (4x10^1) + (3x10^0) ... Let's do the math... 4x1000 + 2x100 + 4x10 + 3x1 = 4243 Simple, right? So hex is exactly the same, except you use powers of 16 and the letters A-F map to numbers 10-15 respectively. Let's do your examples... F00: Fx16^2 + 0x16^1 + 0x16^0 ...Let's do the math... 15x256 + 0x16 + 0x1 = 3840 ...Voila! Youve just converted Hex to decimal. Now how does that give us the Ring/Bridge #'s?...First, you need to understand that the Route Descriptor is broken down like this: , where R=Ring# and B=Bridge# Given that FOO in Binary is only 12 bits but the field above is 16 bits, we have to pad the left side with 0's so as not to change the value (Though it's not displayed this way.) This makes it 0x0F00. In binary, this is: 0x0F00 = This means that the Ring is and the Bridge is when you break the fields apart. Convert this binary back to decimal, you get Ring#=3840, Bridge#=0, (The bridge bits set to all 0's means the ring local to the destination). Valid bridge #'s are 1-15. Your second example: 2F2 = 0x02F2 = 00100010 = Ring 0010 / Bridge 0010 = Ring# 47/Bridge# 2 If you had a RIF that read 0810.02F2.0F00, then the RIF would translate to this: 0810(Routing control bits).Ring47/Bridge2.Ring3840/Bridge0(or ring local to destination) Hope this helps. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mckenzie Bill Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38245t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on PIX 501 Ole, I apologize in advance for yet another direct message. I am just wondering if you did get the message regarding the Pix 501 as groupstudy has not. I dislike having to message direct, but I am really scratching my head over this, so anything help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. In a nutshell, have you worked with a 501. If so, was it plug and play or did you have to perform additional configurations to get it to work. My thanks in advance for your time. Justin Cluer _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38246t=38246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Nice going, Ole! Now, how about an easy way to convert decimal to hex without going through binary (the way I learned)? :) Persio - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Hex is based on 16, where Dec is based on 10. When you see a value, no matter if it's in dec, hex, bin, or something else, think of each number as being number 0 (the right one), 1, 2, 3, and so on. If you for instance have the decimal value 579: Number 0 would be 9 Number 1 would be 7 Number 2 would be 5 When you have decimal, the system is based on 10, so you will have to use 10 to calculate your way to a result. The number 579 can be calculated this way: 9 * 10^0 = 9 + 7 * 10^1 = 70 + 5 * 10^2 = 500 = Result = 579 This seems pretty silly to calculate a value like that, but that's because we're used to see the value in a 10-based format. Okay, let's take your first 16-based (hex) value - F00. Again, from right to left: Number 0 is 0 Number 1 is 0 Number 2 is F (15 in decimal) Instead of using the number 10 to calculate, you will need to use the number 16 to calculate: The value F00 in hex can be calculated this way: 0 * 16^0 =0 + 0 * 16^1 =0 + F * 16^2 = 3840 = Result = 3840 You can with hex make words if that helps you remember the value, as long as you do not use letters above F. For instance, the value ABBA would be a good one to use for a Swedish Ericsson Server (if they exist), and the value would be calculated like this: A * 16^0 =10 + B * 16^1 = 176 + B * 16^2 = 2816 + A * 16^3 = 40960 = Result = 43962 If this is still a little confusing, the let's continue with your second value, and break it up a little more: 2F2 First number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^0 (1). The result is 2. Second number is F (15 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^1 (16). The result is 240. The third number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^2 (256). The result is 512. The final result will therefore give us 2+240+512 = 754 decimal. Conversions between all systems other than decimal is much easier, because they are based on what I call double up. If you start with binary. Binary is based on 2. When you double up, you will get 4. Next time you will get 8. 8 is the number that Octal is based on, but that's not used much anymore. Next time you will get 16. 16 is the number that Hex is based on. Now, you can see that going from hex to binary will be easier. Hex numbers goes from 0 to 15, and binary goes from 0 to 1. So that means that four binary numbers matches one hex number. An example: The hex number F00 again. If you take each number and convert it to binary, it is much easier. 0 = 0 = F = Result = You can now convert the binary number to octal, which is based on three binary numbers instead of four. First, put spaces in between every third to make it easier: 111 100 000 000 You can see that it is the same binary number as above, but it looks different now. Now convert to Octal: 000 = 0 000 = 0 100 = 4 111 = 7 Octal result = 7400 Some people prefer to use binary when converting from hex to decimal. Again, let's take the F00. From Hex to Bin: F 0 0 = Let's split the binary numbers up: 0 * 2^0 (1) = 0 0 * 2^1 (2) = 0 0 * 2^2 (4) = 0 0 * 2^3 (8) = 0 0 * 2^4 (16) = 0 0 * 2^5 (32) = 0 0 * 2^6 (64) = 0 0 * 2^7 (128) = 0 1 * 2^8 (256) = 256 1 * 2^9 (512) = 512 1 * 2^10 (1024) = 1024 1 * 2^11 (2048) = 2048 RESULT = 3840 If you look at the first calculation we did in the beginning, you can see that I came to the same result. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Mckenzie Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38247t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
That's nothing. I was recently contacted by a company that does some kind of multi-level marketing scam. The 'interview' is suppossed to be a group presentation of some kind. The woman posed as a 'recruiter' and got my name off the Internet. She had to have gotten it from a job site, since she knew I was looking and b/c I don't have personal pages floating around out there. How's THAT for sleazy? Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38248t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP exams-The Truth [7:38249]
a big passage below...i hope some of it makes sense to you ccnp exams are easy. they should be made more difficult in the new 641 series to regain some of their merit. But hey can you guys give me one good reason why cisco would like to have less certified people in the market rather than more? there might be a couple of minor reasons but cisco has drawn up its plans for the future.Once a cert.loses its lust, they would come up with another. they keep getting hefty fees for the exams, they keep getting richer, they keep expanding their non-core business revenue streams, they pay tax, and america's economy revives. guys this would never die out. Certs are here to stay according to me...just the same way as windows is. its all part of a capitalist economy. some foolish people on the boards value the ccnp at its face value. I pity them. If you have 6months of internetworking exp.behind your back , you are ready for the ccnp. I got 6months. Its been 19 days since my first ccnp exam, and im giving CIT in 3. that makes it 22 for the entire ccnp track. I passed wonderfully, always very close to the 900's. my support? well obviously just the book and boson the great. Now i dont want to give wrong ideas to those pursuing the ccnp. Please do it your own way- try to understand everything- i did and then only step onto helpers just as boson if you wish. And if you want to feel prouder after passing the exams,dont use the bosons. Actually the bosons do help more on the ccna than the ccnp. Ive hardly come across questions similar on the real paper in my ccnp track. The boson's just help me feel confident enough to go for the exams. I would also very strongly advise the cramsessions 2-3 hours before the exam. why am i taking this cert and making cisco rich? coz thats the only option i have to get a good enough job. I cant impress anybody with my exp. so i have to hope to be lucky to find a not-so-clever hiring manager who would choose me over the really experienced types coz i have these 4 dumb characters behind my name. And hey anywayz a lot of candidates have a wrong notion of an interview. An interview isint enough to get to know what a candidate is capable of technically. A lot of times, it all boils down to how u get along with the interviewer. well to end my thread, i would like to also mention that the ccie written is no big deal either. Just like guys in here are doubtful of the ccnp's merit nowadays, they would for the ccie in the same way within 6 months. i would take about 10 days of good study and 1 boson day after that to get through the current ccie-written. And finally, i would like to respect the experienced people out there if. You guys are the cool people who probably the ccnp cert were meant for but are being pursued by more or less newbies like me. But we are all humans, we all live in a capitalist economy and we all want to make money and we all dont want it to take too long. now, who wouldnt agree on that? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38249t=38249 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
Mark, It sounds like you want to create a huge subnet that spans across 3 links? If you are trying to have both the ethernet interface and the serial interface be unnumbered to the loopback interface you would inherintly introduce a problem to the router. The problem would be with the internal logic of a router running IP (if in fact it is routing). Let's take this scenario as an example. You are the router and you receive a packet destined for 192.168.10.5 which interface do you shoot it out of if the serial interface is addressed 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0 and the ethernet interface is addressed 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0, and you don't have any more specific static routes? You are now telling the router the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet is over here, and also saying the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet is over here. I don't see the reasoning in why you would want to try something like this, especially when you are using private addresses. Why not address the ethernet interface seperately and then possibly use the unnumbered loopback 0 on the serial interface? If you want everything to be on the same subnet you could just bridge everything. I am quite familiar with IP, but not such an old head to know all of the inner workings of DECnet. The DECnet concept of basically using a node address instead of addressing each interface kindof goes along with this type of setup you are trying by kindof establishing the loopback interface as the node address. IP was designed to have each interface addressed. In IP as I'm sure you know the mask portion of an IP address defines which hosts reside on this link. By default in your setup there will be 2 connected routes pointing packets destined for the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet to the serial and the ethernet interfaces. If you add more specific routes to it would fix that issue of not knowing which interface to push packets out of since those routes would be more preferred, but I believe these more specific routes would have to be manually entered, because a routing protocol will simply advertise the addressed networks (RIP, IGRP) or subnets (EIGRP, IS-IS, OSPF, BGP), not specific host routes. Crazy idea, Good luck with it and please let us know how it works out for you. Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll make the question simpler. Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an ethernet interface? Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0 Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1 Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing process, such as EIGRP or RIP. Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface. Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network. add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration. And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface. What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask for all hosts including loopback interface. I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P subinterface. Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each respective router. Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network). Is this Possible?? The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired. The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet. For Topology description: Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3 remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface. Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic only (no Data traffic) Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1 Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1 ... So much for a simpler
Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
Bitch, This is not Chinese or Korean. I don't think this is rubbish either. Do some research before open your foul mouth. HTH, Jim --- Mphekeleli Dhlamini wrote: I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38251t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kentrox vs. Adtran CSU/DSU [7:38252]
I have used Kentrox Satellite 651 CSU/DSU's before but looking at the Adtran TSU ACE CSU/DSU. Does anyone have an opinion of the Adtran? It's a little cheaper than the Kentrox and you don't have to buy the cables which are about $60 each for 10'. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38252t=38252 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
Forgive me for not reading the book yet, as I've been quite busy too ... but, I have a question in regards to the config line you gave. I've used the PDM so far to most of the configuration of my PIX, and it creates access-lists rather than conduits. I know from others I've talked with, that Cisco is moving from conduits to access-lists on the PIX configs... this is the question I configure to allow ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Echo Reply ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Time Exceeded ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Unreachable Does this do the same thing as what you were saying about conduit permit any any X?? I think it does, but just want to make sure that I haven't opened up ICMP completely with it being initiated from the outside. Thanks! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on PIX 501 Ole, I apologize in advance for yet another direct message. I am just wondering if you did get the message regarding the Pix 501 as groupstudy has not. I dislike having to message direct, but I am really scratching my head over this, so anything help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. In a nutshell, have you worked with a 501. If so, was it plug and play or did you have to perform additional configurations to get it to work. My thanks in advance for your time. Justin Cluer _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38253t=38246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kentrox vs. Adtran CSU/DSU [7:38252]
TO me a csu is a csu. I personally don't have any preference, but I do prefer being able to configure channels on the front screen as opposed to having proprietary cables and wacky key combinations to access menus. I once had to drive 2.5 hours one way in a snow storm to Cape Cod (no I wasn't barefoot and it wasn't up hill both ways :D ) to reconfigure some channels with ATT only to find out that I didn't have the right cables and connectors to do the cut over. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Doug Korell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have used Kentrox Satellite 651 CSU/DSU's before but looking at the Adtran TSU ACE CSU/DSU. Does anyone have an opinion of the Adtran? It's a little cheaper than the Kentrox and you don't have to buy the cables which are about $60 each for 10'. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38254t=38252 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
god i hate multilevel marketing. -Original Message- From: Marc Maxwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] That's nothing. I was recently contacted by a company that does some kind of multi-level marketing scam. The 'interview' is suppossed to be a group presentation of some kind. The woman posed as a 'recruiter' and got my name off the Internet. She had to have gotten it from a job site, since she knew I was looking and b/c I don't have personal pages floating around out there. How's THAT for sleazy? Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38255t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MUX Vs Router [7:38258]
what's the simlar and different , when to use mux and when to use router.? Thanks :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38258t=38258 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
If you need to use tracert, you need to open for ICMP type 11 = Time Exceeded: conduit permit icmp any any 11 You do not need the Echo-Reply (icmp type 0) if you only use tracert, but you if you're using both tracert and ping, you would need either: conduit permit icmp any any 0 conduit permit icmp any any 11 or conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:23 AM To: Ole Drews Jensen Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hey Drew, does this mean that inside devices could trace out but no one could trace in? I only allow ICMP to certain machines. We can ping out but if you trace out through the PIX you get * * *. If I do a conduit permit icmp any any then you can trace but you can also ping and trace everything from the outside which I don't want. Thanks! Steve -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on PIX 501 Ole, I apologize in advance for yet another direct message. I am just wondering if you did get the message regarding the Pix 501 as groupstudy has not. I dislike having to message direct, but I am really scratching my head over this, so anything help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. In a nutshell, have you worked with a 501. If so, was it plug and play or did you have to perform additional configurations to get it to work. My thanks in advance for your time. Justin Cluer _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38259t=38246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUX Vs Router [7:38258]
Well, they are two different pieces of equipment that do two different thingsRouters take traffic from multiple layer 3 networks, allowing comunication between them. MUX's and DEMUX's take multiple layer 2 segments and combine them to form one. now, aside from that, there are vendors that sell mux's that route traffic... such as http://www.tiaranetworks.com These are routers in every sense of the word that can also aggregate bandwidth through multiple serial connections. hth, -Patrick 03/14/02 01:00PM what's the simlar and different , when to use mux and when to use router.? Thanks :) Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38261t=38258 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
They do this to collect as many resumes as possible and then flood *any* and all openings with them...even if Atlantis has no intention of sending a candidate to an interview. This prevents the applicant from applying directly to said company on their own, because Atlantis will demand a cut since they referred them. Another bad recruiting firm to watch out for is MacArthur and Associates - same type of sleeze as Atlantis. - Sean -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] Atlantis Partners is just a bad company all around, from what I can tell. Here in Denver they post fake job openings just to get people to send in resumes to fill their databases. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that they did this. Why would anyone use a company that does stuff like that?? John Sean Knox 3/13/02 3:02:29 PM I would say it's a sign that recruiting firms, such as Atlantis, don't have a clue, as it has always been. - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word junior is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38260t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP exams-The Truth [7:38249]
How about this: the more tests people have to take, the more money Cisco makes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/02 11:13AM a big passage below...i hope some of it makes sense to you ccnp exams are easy. they should be made more difficult in the new 641 series to regain some of their merit. But hey can you guys give me one good reason why cisco would like to have less certified people in the market rather than more? [snip] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38262t=38249 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
All very good but an easier route is to configure the ring numbers in hex; the router will give the decimal equivalents. int tok 0 ring 16 source-bridge 0xf00 2 0x2f2 will appear as int tok 0 ring 16 source-bridge 3840 2 754 Fred. Kelly Cobean wrote: Bill, Hex is equivalent to Base16 numbering. Decimal is really Base10 numbering. Let's look at an example of Base10 numbering broken down into it's components, then we'll tackle your examples.. The decimal number 4243 drawn out in Base10 is as follows: (4x10^3) + (2x10^2) + (4x10^1) + (3x10^0) ... Let's do the math... 4x1000 + 2x100 + 4x10 + 3x1 = 4243 Simple, right? So hex is exactly the same, except you use powers of 16 and the letters A-F map to numbers 10-15 respectively. Let's do your examples... F00: Fx16^2 + 0x16^1 + 0x16^0 ...Let's do the math... 15x256 + 0x16 + 0x1 = 3840 ...Voila! Youve just converted Hex to decimal. Now how does that give us the Ring/Bridge #'s?...First, you need to understand that the Route Descriptor is broken down like this: , where R=Ring# and B=Bridge# Given that FOO in Binary is only 12 bits but the field above is 16 bits, we have to pad the left side with 0's so as not to change the value (Though it's not displayed this way.) This makes it 0x0F00. In binary, this is: 0x0F00 = This means that the Ring is and the Bridge is when you break the fields apart. Convert this binary back to decimal, you get Ring#=3840, Bridge#=0, (The bridge bits set to all 0's means the ring local to the destination). Valid bridge #'s are 1-15. Your second example: 2F2 = 0x02F2 = 00100010 = Ring 0010 / Bridge 0010 = Ring# 47/Bridge# 2 If you had a RIF that read 0810.02F2.0F00, then the RIF would translate to this: 0810(Routing control bits).Ring47/Bridge2.Ring3840/Bridge0(or ring local to destination) Hope this helps. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mckenzie Bill Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Thanks Everyone in advance. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38264t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP exams-The Truth [7:38249]
Tests are definitly profitable. For the CCIE lab ALONE, I heard that approx 50,000 people have taken the test. For most of the time, the test was $1000.00. So, since the inception of the LAB, Cisco has pulled in $50,000,000.00! And AFAIK, none of that cash goes to Sylvan or anyone else but Cisco. That's just for the lab! I can't imagine how many people have paid for the CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Written, etc.. Tests certainly are profitable. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Ken Diliberto wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... How about this: the more tests people have to take, the more money Cisco makes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/02 11:13AM a big passage below...i hope some of it makes sense to you ccnp exams are easy. they should be made more difficult in the new 641 series to regain some of their merit. But hey can you guys give me one good reason why cisco would like to have less certified people in the market rather than more? [snip] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38263t=38249 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Thanks, Now you have to remember the DIV and MOD calculation you learned in school. First, learn the values of each of the hex numbers. If we take a max of four hex numbers (1 word, 2 bytes, 16 bits, etc.) you have the following: 16^3 16^2 16^1 16^0 Doing a fast calculation gives us: 4096 256 16 1 That means that 1000 hex is 4096 dec. Got that? - Good! With four numbers, you will have the range of to or 0 to 65535. So if you have the decimal number 5000, you do the following: Step 1: How many times does 4096 fit into 5000? Answer = 1 Step 2: What's left? Answer = 904 Step 3: How many times does 256 fit into 904? Answer = 3 Step 4: What's left? Answer = 136 Step 5: How many times does 16 fit into 136? Answer = 8 Step 6: What's left? Answer = 8 RESULT = 1388 hex is the same as 5000 dec. Here's a practice story for you :-) The 2750 with the 2989 64206 got a 3053 at the old 51966 where 43962 used to 190. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Persio Pucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Nice going, Ole! Now, how about an easy way to convert decimal to hex without going through binary (the way I learned)? :) Persio - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Hex is based on 16, where Dec is based on 10. When you see a value, no matter if it's in dec, hex, bin, or something else, think of each number as being number 0 (the right one), 1, 2, 3, and so on. If you for instance have the decimal value 579: Number 0 would be 9 Number 1 would be 7 Number 2 would be 5 When you have decimal, the system is based on 10, so you will have to use 10 to calculate your way to a result. The number 579 can be calculated this way: 9 * 10^0 = 9 + 7 * 10^1 = 70 + 5 * 10^2 = 500 = Result = 579 This seems pretty silly to calculate a value like that, but that's because we're used to see the value in a 10-based format. Okay, let's take your first 16-based (hex) value - F00. Again, from right to left: Number 0 is 0 Number 1 is 0 Number 2 is F (15 in decimal) Instead of using the number 10 to calculate, you will need to use the number 16 to calculate: The value F00 in hex can be calculated this way: 0 * 16^0 =0 + 0 * 16^1 =0 + F * 16^2 = 3840 = Result = 3840 You can with hex make words if that helps you remember the value, as long as you do not use letters above F. For instance, the value ABBA would be a good one to use for a Swedish Ericsson Server (if they exist), and the value would be calculated like this: A * 16^0 =10 + B * 16^1 = 176 + B * 16^2 = 2816 + A * 16^3 = 40960 = Result = 43962 If this is still a little confusing, the let's continue with your second value, and break it up a little more: 2F2 First number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^0 (1). The result is 2. Second number is F (15 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^1 (16). The result is 240. The third number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^2 (256). The result is 512. The final result will therefore give us 2+240+512 = 754 decimal. Conversions between all systems other than decimal is much easier, because they are based on what I call double up. If you start with binary. Binary is based on 2. When you double up, you will get 4. Next time you will get 8. 8 is the number that Octal is based on, but that's not used much anymore. Next time you will get 16. 16 is the number that Hex is based on. Now, you can see that going from hex to binary will be easier. Hex numbers goes from 0 to 15, and binary goes from 0 to 1. So that means that four binary numbers matches one hex number. An example: The hex number F00 again. If you take each number and convert it to binary, it is much easier. 0 = 0 = F = Result = You can now convert the binary number to octal, which is based on three binary numbers instead of four. First, put spaces in between every third to make it easier: 111 100 000 000 You can see that it is the same binary number as above, but it looks different now. Now convert to Octal: 000 = 0 000 = 0 100 = 4 111 = 7 Octal result = 7400 Some people prefer to use binary when converting from hex to decimal. Again, let's take the F00. From Hex to Bin: F 0 0 = Let's split the
RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
Mark, My original question that I sent to the group somehow got lost. Ole was kind enough to respond to a direct query regarding to some fun I am having with installing a Pix (501) for the first time. My firewall background is SonicWall and Watchguard, both are very simple in configuration and work directly out of the box. I was under the impression it was pretty much plug and play, so I decided to test it by putting it between my PC and the rest of the LAN. However, after the initial setup, the Pix passed no information through it. So I went to a ping to start the troubleshooting. The curious (to me) issue was that from the console or the PDM of the Pix I can ping network addresses on both sides of the Pix. From the inside of the Pix, I cannot ping (or browse the web) through the Pix. I cannot even ping the outside interface of the Pix from the inside interface. The specific question is this ... is additional configuration of the Pix required to permit access from the inside interface to the outside interface and beyond? To expand on the topic you and Ole are discussing, is the use of the conduits (or access-lists) required for each and every type of service I want to send from the inside to the outside? I have no problem researching the commands to learn how it is done, I just want to make certain I am on the right path. Thanks, Justin From: Mark Odette II Reply-To: Mark Odette II To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:45:59 -0500 Forgive me for not reading the book yet, as I've been quite busy too ... but, I have a question in regards to the config line you gave. I've used the PDM so far to most of the configuration of my PIX, and it creates access-lists rather than conduits. I know from others I've talked with, that Cisco is moving from conduits to access-lists on the PIX configs... this is the question I configure to allow ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Echo Reply ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Time Exceeded ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Unreachable Does this do the same thing as what you were saying about conduit permit any any X?? I think it does, but just want to make sure that I haven't opened up ICMP completely with it being initiated from the outside. Thanks! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on PIX 501 Ole, I apologize in advance for yet another direct message. I am just wondering if you did get the message regarding the Pix 501 as
FW: MUX Vs Router [7:38258]
In my experience if you have a choice - stay away from the muxes. We had 30 locations with NRS telco lines and muxes with multiple resets being required each week. Since, we have moved to 100% routers on Frame lines. Down time is less than 1% of what it was with the Muxes. We also have much more control over the communication and with IP addressing on the routers, we can monitor with WhatsUp and other software. The Frame circuits are a bit more expensive per month, but the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages. You also have to have one mux on each end of your circuit, no spoke/hub connectivity. By the way, if you decide to use muxes, we have many 8/16/32 port Multitech muxes. Contact me off the group and we can work out a good deal. David Toalson 816-701-4142 -- From: WW[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: WW Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MUX Vs Router [7:38258] what's the simlar and different , when to use mux and when to use router.? Thanks :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38267t=38258 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another CCNP [7:38269]
Just passed my last test today. Ty King Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38269t=38269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
The company has no level of professionalism. They call you in for this Cattle call. You and 15 other people for a interview for the same job. Then they want to do all of the negotiation. I find that any job they set you up for they are trying to keep about $20,000 +. So becareful, of them or anyone that wants to do all the negotiation for you. They get paid the difference. Steven A. Ridder wrote: They do that in Boston as well. TechieGold.com is thier website as well, which I suspect has fake jobs as well. Furthermore, in our area they merged with Remington. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Atlantis Partners is just a bad company all around, from what I can tell. Here in Denver they post fake job openings just to get people to send in resumes to fill their databases. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that they did this. Why would anyone use a company that does stuff like that?? John Sean Knox 3/13/02 3:02:29 PM I would say it's a sign that recruiting firms, such as Atlantis, don't have a clue, as it has always been. - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word junior is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38271t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38270]
Brian, et al., The idea is to do such: Interface FastEthernet0 description Connected to PIX Outside Interface, and PIX Inside Interface is subnet for Data traffic. Ip adress x.x.x.x 255.255.255.x Interface Loopback0 description VoIP subnet with VoIP originating/terminating on this Router... other hosts also placed on the same subnet at a later date, and connecting via the Ethernet Port which connects to a switch that the other hosts are also plugging into. Ip address 192.168.101.1 255.255.255.0 Interface Serial0 NO IP ADDRESS Encap Frame-Relay Interface Serial0.1 description Connected to the Internet Ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.252 interface-dlci 16 Interface Serial0.100 description Connected to HQ over PVT FR for Voice traffic ip unnumbered loopback0 interface-dlci 100 Router EIGRP 1750 Network 192.168.100.0 Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll make the question simpler. Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an ethernet interface? Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0 Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1 Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing process, such as EIGRP or RIP. Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface. Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network. add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration. And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface. What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask for all hosts including loopback interface. I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P subinterface. Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each respective router. Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network). Is this Possible?? The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired. The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet. For Topology description: Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3 remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface. Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic only (no Data traffic) Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1 Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1 ... So much for a simpler reply. :) Thanks in advance for everyones' comments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tshon Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933] What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we need your help to help you. Brian Lodwick wrote: This has got to be the most confusing message I have ever read. A loopback interface is just a virtual interface. It's not a real interface it's just a virtual interface you can create within the router, and you can create as many as you want. The biggest reason someone would want to use a loopback interface would be for resiliency. If you build a certain session to the loopback interface (BGP, DLSW...) and you have more than one path to reach this router the session will not die if a certain interface dies. ___ ( ) --- r1 Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272]
When would you use Layer 3 EtherChannel? Ive bonded layer two links together before, but not sure when you could/should use the layer 3 EtherChannel? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/ios127xe/config/ channel.htm#12748 Thanks!! Jeff Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38272t=38272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kentrox vs. Adtran CSU/DSU [7:38252]
ROFL That had to suck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kentrox vs. Adtran CSU/DSU [7:38252] TO me a csu is a csu. I personally don't have any preference, but I do prefer being able to configure channels on the front screen as opposed to having proprietary cables and wacky key combinations to access menus. I once had to drive 2.5 hours one way in a snow storm to Cape Cod (no I wasn't barefoot and it wasn't up hill both ways :D ) to reconfigure some channels with ATT only to find out that I didn't have the right cables and connectors to do the cut over. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Doug Korell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have used Kentrox Satellite 651 CSU/DSU's before but looking at the Adtran TSU ACE CSU/DSU. Does anyone have an opinion of the Adtran? It's a little cheaper than the Kentrox and you don't have to buy the cables which are about $60 each for 10'. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38273t=38252 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Default Weight in BGP [7:38191]
Weight, like all BGP attributes, is present for EVERY route in the BGP table. So, if the route is sourced from another router, it will need to be assigned a weight. The assigned weight will be 0. (Weight has local-significance only, and is not transited) So, routes sourced locally will have a local weight of 32k. Routes sourced remotely will have a weight of 0. Using route-maps, you can adjust these weights if needed. As to why it's 32k, I assume it has something to do with the fact that the BGP table is de-coupled from the routing table, and ensuring that routers advertize themselves as the best-path as oposed to chosing another BGP route as best. However, this is off the top of my head, I'm sure Halabi or Doyle would have more on this in their books. --Wes Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38274t=38191 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Last question on OSPF point-to-multi nonbroadcast [7:38189]
It's point-to-multipoint without automatic neighbor discovery. All the advantages of P2M, with the added control of manually specifying your neighbors. I don't usually use it - but it's another tool in the shed, just in case... --Wes Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38275t=38189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another CCNP [7:38269]
Congratulations!! - Original Message - From: King, Ty To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: another CCNP [7:38269] Just passed my last test today. Ty King _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38276t=38269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
I have an idea, why don't we just standardize on a Language that NOBODY uses anymore, like maybe formal Latin. That way, you all can waste even more of my precious time on things that have nothing whatsoever to do with becoming a CCIE. In other words, please take your petty squables offline. I realize that the Internet is a global community, and we should all make an effort to be sensitive and support everyone in their quest to become a CCIE, however, for the most part the english language is the lowest common denominator, so it only makes sense. If more of the countries of the world spoke spanish, for example, than english, then it would make sense to host this list in spanish, but that's not the case. I propose to the moderator(s) a formal request to stop this thread, as their is nothing beneficial about it, and it is clearly headed down-hill. Realistically, none of us care whether the post was in Chinese or Korean, or Plutonian for that matter. We saw it, we didn't understand it, we moved on. And just so my post has something to do with becoming a CCIE Can someone tell me the consequences of having a switched network with a diameter greater than 7? Does Spanning-Tree freak out? Thanks. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer GRC International, Inc., an ATT company -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Bond Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] Bitch, This is not Chinese or Korean. I don't think this is rubbish either. Do some research before open your foul mouth. HTH, Jim --- Mphekeleli Dhlamini wrote: I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38277t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
si. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Kelly Cobean wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have an idea, why don't we just standardize on a Language that NOBODY uses anymore, like maybe formal Latin. That way, you all can waste even more of my precious time on things that have nothing whatsoever to do with becoming a CCIE. In other words, please take your petty squables offline. I realize that the Internet is a global community, and we should all make an effort to be sensitive and support everyone in their quest to become a CCIE, however, for the most part the english language is the lowest common denominator, so it only makes sense. If more of the countries of the world spoke spanish, for example, than english, then it would make sense to host this list in spanish, but that's not the case. I propose to the moderator(s) a formal request to stop this thread, as their is nothing beneficial about it, and it is clearly headed down-hill. Realistically, none of us care whether the post was in Chinese or Korean, or Plutonian for that matter. We saw it, we didn't understand it, we moved on. And just so my post has something to do with becoming a CCIE Can someone tell me the consequences of having a switched network with a diameter greater than 7? Does Spanning-Tree freak out? Thanks. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer GRC International, Inc., an ATT company -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Bond Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057] Bitch, This is not Chinese or Korean. I don't think this is rubbish either. Do some research before open your foul mouth. HTH, Jim --- Mphekeleli Dhlamini wrote: I don't usually reply or ask on these groupstudy,but I think these is not acceptable under any circumstances.If people can just have manners and morals when involving like the discussion boards.I just can't what people will say if I post in my Zulu language knowing for a fact that these won't make sense to most if not all the people who are going to receive these.Waste of bandwidth.. Can you please go and start your own Chinese/Korean or whatever group where they'll understand these rubbish you have written here please. I'm not expecting any replies from the author of these s@$t! People must keep focus sometimes.Forget your democratic country and behave like a responsible human being. Pc9101 2002-03-13 05:24:42 Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38278t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
Thats easy, just integer divide the decimal number by 16 and put the remainder in the first column. Keep dividing by 16 and placing the remainder in the next column moving right to left until you have a number less than 16 and place it in the left-most column. For example: 873 = 0x369 873/16=54, r9 54/16= 3, r6 3/16= 0, r3 HTH, Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Persio Pucci wrote: Nice going, Ole! Now, how about an easy way to convert decimal to hex without going through binary (the way I learned)? :) Persio - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223] Hex is based on 16, where Dec is based on 10. When you see a value, no matter if it's in dec, hex, bin, or something else, think of each number as being number 0 (the right one), 1, 2, 3, and so on. If you for instance have the decimal value 579: Number 0 would be 9 Number 1 would be 7 Number 2 would be 5 When you have decimal, the system is based on 10, so you will have to use 10 to calculate your way to a result. The number 579 can be calculated this way: 9 * 10^0 = 9 + 7 * 10^1 = 70 + 5 * 10^2 = 500 = Result = 579 This seems pretty silly to calculate a value like that, but that's because we're used to see the value in a 10-based format. Okay, let's take your first 16-based (hex) value - F00. Again, from right to left: Number 0 is 0 Number 1 is 0 Number 2 is F (15 in decimal) Instead of using the number 10 to calculate, you will need to use the number 16 to calculate: The value F00 in hex can be calculated this way: 0 * 16^0 =0 + 0 * 16^1 =0 + F * 16^2 = 3840 = Result = 3840 You can with hex make words if that helps you remember the value, as long as you do not use letters above F. For instance, the value ABBA would be a good one to use for a Swedish Ericsson Server (if they exist), and the value would be calculated like this: A * 16^0 =10 + B * 16^1 = 176 + B * 16^2 = 2816 + A * 16^3 = 40960 = Result = 43962 If this is still a little confusing, the let's continue with your second value, and break it up a little more: 2F2 First number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^0 (1). The result is 2. Second number is F (15 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^1 (16). The result is 240. The third number is 2 (2 decimal) which must be multiplied by 16^2 (256). The result is 512. The final result will therefore give us 2+240+512 = 754 decimal. Conversions between all systems other than decimal is much easier, because they are based on what I call double up. If you start with binary. Binary is based on 2. When you double up, you will get 4. Next time you will get 8. 8 is the number that Octal is based on, but that's not used much anymore. Next time you will get 16. 16 is the number that Hex is based on. Now, you can see that going from hex to binary will be easier. Hex numbers goes from 0 to 15, and binary goes from 0 to 1. So that means that four binary numbers matches one hex number. An example: The hex number F00 again. If you take each number and convert it to binary, it is much easier. 0 = 0 = F = Result = You can now convert the binary number to octal, which is based on three binary numbers instead of four. First, put spaces in between every third to make it easier: 111 100 000 000 You can see that it is the same binary number as above, but it looks different now. Now convert to Octal: 000 = 0 000 = 0 100 = 4 111 = 7 Octal result = 7400 Some people prefer to use binary when converting from hex to decimal. Again, let's take the F00. From Hex to Bin: F 0 0 = Let's split the binary numbers up: 0 * 2^0 (1) = 0 0 * 2^1 (2) = 0 0 * 2^2 (4) = 0 0 * 2^3 (8) = 0 0 * 2^4 (16) = 0 0 * 2^5 (32) = 0 0 * 2^6 (64) = 0 0 * 2^7 (128) = 0 1 * 2^8 (256) = 256 1 * 2^9 (512) = 512 1 * 2^10 (1024) = 1024 1 * 2^11 (2048) = 2048 RESULT = 3840 If you look at the first calculation we did in the beginning, you can see that I came to the same result. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Mckenzie Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hex to
Creating Serial cross over cable [7:38280]
Hi, I am trying to figure out my options for creating 60pin serial cross over cables. If I had 2 cables that are 60pin to 25pin, can I just buy a 25pin null-modem cable, connect them and create a serial crossover? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38280t=38280 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Management VLANs? [7:38282]
this isn't a direct CCNP cert question, but I was thinking of trying to make my network infrastructure easier to navigate. I was thinking of creating a VLAN on a certain IP scheme and have each piece of equipment have a virutal interface on it. Am I going about this the right way? How do some of you address this issue? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38282t=38282 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another CCNP [7:38269]
Welcome to the club! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael J. Doherty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another CCNP [7:38269] Congratulations!! - Original Message - From: King, Ty To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: another CCNP [7:38269] Just passed my last test today. Ty King _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38283t=38269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272]
You cant set etherchannel to a layer 3 address, not in any of the cisco switches I had. Its only a layer 2 link, not a layer 3 link. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Reed Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] When would you use Layer 3 EtherChannel? Ive bonded layer two links together before, but not sure when you could/should use the layer 3 EtherChannel? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/ios127xe/config/ channel.htm#12748 Thanks!! Jeff Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38284t=38272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38285]
OK, For some reason, my first time of sending this reply got chopped, so here it is again. Brian, et al., Please Note the following: ***All I wanted to know was: Can the Loopback Interface be used to host a complete subnet (and the Router make routing decisions with this inteface), or is its functionality such that it will always respond like an interface configured with a 255.255.255.255 mask, and 86 traffic not destined for IT on the same subnet?? I'm not looking for someone to help me make a completely working config for all routers in this implementation. The idea is to do such: !Interface FastEthernet0 ! description Connected to PIX Outside Interface, and PIX Inside Interface is subnet for Data traffic. ! Ip adress x.x.x.x 255.255.255.x !Interface Loopback0 ! description VoIP subnet with VoIP originating/terminating on this Router... other hosts also placed on the same subnet at a later date, and connecting via the Ethernet Port which connects to a switch that the other hosts are also plugging into. ! Ip address 192.168.101.1 255.255.255.0 !Interface Serial0 ! NO IP ADDRESS ! Encap Frame-Relay !Interface Serial0.1 ! description Connected to the Internet ! Ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.252 ! interface-dlci 16 !Interface Serial0.100 ! description Connected to HQ over PVT FR for Voice traffic ! ip unnumbered loopback0 ! interface-dlci 100 ! {insert Map-Class Tag here} !{Insert Route-Maps Here} !{Insert Voice configuration here... a.k.a. Dial Peers} !{Insert QoS config here... a.k.a. Map Classes} !Router EIGRP 1750 !Network 192.168.100.0 Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll make the question simpler. Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an ethernet interface? Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0 Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1 Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing process, such as EIGRP or RIP. Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface. Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network. add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration. And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface. What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask for all hosts including loopback interface. I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P subinterface. Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each respective router. Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network). Is this Possible?? The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired. The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet. For Topology description: Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3 remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface. Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic only (no Data traffic) Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1 Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1 ... So much for a simpler reply. :) Thanks in advance for everyones' comments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tshon Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933] What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we need your help
Stacker and Predictor? [7:38286]
Hello, Can anyone explain in a simple way (layman's terms) on how Stacker and Predictor work? Thank you. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38286t=38286 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Latency in Telnet, intervlan routing [7:38187]
To add, Make sure that subnet masks are all configured properly. Beleive me that could be the problem. Wrong subnet masks are hidden problems that would allow you to do certain thing and deny certain things. It may allow you to ping, but not to telnet. Abbas -Original Message- From: Tauseef Nagi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latency in Telnet, intervlan routing [7:38187] Here are few things you could look into, 1) Is this a new config.? 2) Did it ever work before? if yes, what changed? 3) Assuming that routing is setup correctly on the Cat5K routing module (if this is being used), (a) do you have the right static routing setup on the server to respond to traffic coming from different network? (b) where is your default gateway point to (as next hop) on your server? (c) If the server is a unix box, do you have any tcp wrappers? any ip-chains? any firewall? 4) If everything checks out OK thus far, check for issues with switch and routing module configuration 5) What are you using to route inter-vlan traffic? is it routing module in Cat5K or is it external router? 6) If it is internal routing module, have you configured the vlan interfaces correctly? 7) Once all the end stations are connected, are the vlan interfaces show as up and up? 8) How about the ip addressing? are all the configurations falling withing their respective masking bounderies? 9) How about the ACLs? 10) So on and so forth... I hope that somewhere along this path, you'll find the issue. Please do share with us what was the resolution. Tauseef Mason wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I do Telnet from a client on VLAN1 and I reach the server just fine. VLAN1 is where the server is also connected to. I do Telnet from any other VLAN: Telnet takes a long time, then it times out. That tells me it is something in the InterVLAN routing. What would be the next step to troubleshoot the problem ? I look into the Cat 5000 configuration but I can't see any relevant changes that caused the problem. If I use a Sniffer, I noticed a delta time larger for the Telnet. However, I don't see any brodcast that could such delay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38288t=38187 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
You'll need to open any ports that you want passed, no matter the direction. You can do this in bulk by specifying access-list inside permit ip any any and verifying that the access-list is applied to the inside interface with access-list inside in interface inside. This will allow outbound traffic from any inside host and allow established traffic to come back in and reach the originator. You probably don't want to do this in practice since it's playing fast and loose with your security. Hope this helps, Craig At 01:42 PM 3/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: Mark, My original question that I sent to the group somehow got lost. Ole was kind enough to respond to a direct query regarding to some fun I am having with installing a Pix (501) for the first time. My firewall background is SonicWall and Watchguard, both are very simple in configuration and work directly out of the box. I was under the impression it was pretty much plug and play, so I decided to test it by putting it between my PC and the rest of the LAN. However, after the initial setup, the Pix passed no information through it. So I went to a ping to start the troubleshooting. The curious (to me) issue was that from the console or the PDM of the Pix I can ping network addresses on both sides of the Pix. From the inside of the Pix, I cannot ping (or browse the web) through the Pix. I cannot even ping the outside interface of the Pix from the inside interface. The specific question is this ... is additional configuration of the Pix required to permit access from the inside interface to the outside interface and beyond? To expand on the topic you and Ole are discussing, is the use of the conduits (or access-lists) required for each and every type of service I want to send from the inside to the outside? I have no problem researching the commands to learn how it is done, I just want to make certain I am on the right path. Thanks, Justin From: Mark Odette II Reply-To: Mark Odette II To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:45:59 -0500 Forgive me for not reading the book yet, as I've been quite busy too ... but, I have a question in regards to the config line you gave. I've used the PDM so far to most of the configuration of my PIX, and it creates access-lists rather than conduits. I know from others I've talked with, that Cisco is moving from conduits to access-lists on the PIX configs... this is the question I configure to allow ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Echo Reply ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Time Exceeded ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Unreachable Does this do the same thing as what you were saying about conduit permit any any X?? I think it does, but just want to make sure that I haven't opened up ICMP completely with it being initiated from the outside. Thanks! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems
Re: ATM route check [7:38201]
Hi, lane uses svc's to build data-direct connections between LECs, so in principle you can trace the path through all intermediate atm switches by simply doing show atm vc and writing down all the cross-connects on the NNI switches. Needless to say, this may take quite a while... Another method is to simulate (compute) a path by using pnni command: show atm pnni dtl node executed on the atm switch. Below is an example: AMART#sh atm pnni dtl node 25 ubr AMART# Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: UBR route request from ATM_OWNER_UNKNOWN Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: To node AMERICA Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: selected target node 25 Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: priority: 2 (25 0) pnni-remote-internal Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: Compute On-Demand Route Based On Admin Weight Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: Found A 3 Hop Route To Destination. Total AW = 15120 Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: PNNI: SOURCE ROUTE Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: DTL 1 4 Nodes Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: AMART 8000 (ATM0/0/0) Mar 14 21:33:37.933 MET: ALTO 0 Mar 14 21:33:37.937 MET: PACI 81103000 (ATM2/1/3) Mar 14 21:33:37.937 MET: AMERICA 0 Mar 14 21:33:37.937 MET: PNNI: Found 1 Ports To Next DTL Node 9 8000 (ATM0/0/0) Mar 14 21:33:37.937 MET: PNNI: Send Source Route Reply To Requestor: Code PNNI_SUCCESS AMART# This output shows that the connection for ubr service class from node amart (8510msr) to node america (8510msr) has been computed with 3 hops and it goes through two intermediate switches (alto and paci, both 8540). Please read more on atm pnni to get a better understanding of this output. Cheers, Alex == Ellis Lam escribis en el mensaje [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, When I use LANE, how can I trace what is the path I take in the ATM switches. In ATM switches, if I don't do any config, it will use PNNI, right, so that can I know the path exactly. Any idea ? Ellis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38289t=38201 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
Well I was just contacted by a firm that had a 'recruiter'. I think it is some sort of scam, because they don't want to interview people, they just want to tell you about their company. Sounds ok, but I think it is some sort of group presentation along the lines of mlm etc. The woman said she got my name off the Internet. In my case that would pretty much have to be a job site, since I don't have personal pages etc. I guess they figure if you are looking for a job, you might be desperate enough to sign up with them. How's THAT for sleazy? Marc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38290t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stacker and Predictor? [7:38286]
STAC (LZS) was developed by STAC Electronics, who then changed their name to Hi/fn, Inc., and is based on the Lempel-Ziv (LZ) compression algorithm. Although effective, the STAC compression algorithm uses more CPU resources to perform compression. Cisco IOS software uses an optimized version of STAC compression. LZS is available in Cisco's Link Access Procedure, Balanced (LAPB), HDLC, X.25, and Frame Relay data compression solutions. FRF.9 and IPComp use the LZS compression algorithm. The Predictor compression algorithm tries to predict the next sequence of characters in the data stream by using an index to look up a sequence in the compression dictionary. It then examines the next sequence in the data stream to see if it matches. If so, that sequence replaces the looked-up sequence in the dictionary. If not, the algorithm locates the next character sequence in the index and the process begins again. The index updates itself by hashing a few of the most recent character sequences from the input stream. - Rich - Original Message - From: Cisco Nuts To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Stacker and Predictor? [7:38286] Hello, Can anyone explain in a simple way (layman's terms) on how Stacker and Predictor work? Thank you. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38291t=38286 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272]
Check out the link I pasted in my original email on how to configure a Layer 3 channel. It shows these commands and a little more: Router# configure terminal Router(config)# interface port-channel 1 Router(config-if)# ip address 172.32.52.10 255.255.255.0 I never saw it before... Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Letterman Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] You cant set etherchannel to a layer 3 address, not in any of the cisco switches I had. Its only a layer 2 link, not a layer 3 link. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Reed Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] When would you use Layer 3 EtherChannel? Ive bonded layer two links together before, but not sure when you could/should use the layer 3 EtherChannel? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/ios127xe/config/ channel.htm#12748 Thanks!! Jeff Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38292t=38272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
And just so my post has something to do with becoming a CCIE Can someone tell me the consequences of having a switched network with a diameter greater than 7? Does Spanning-Tree freak out? Thanks. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer GRC International, Inc., an ATT company It means you have, in the worst case scenerio, way to many bridges between any one host and another. On A Cisco switch you cannot configure a diameter greater than 7. It would be a poor design that would be difficult to troubleshoot. I recall a Networkers session in LA last year on troubleshooting large swithc networks in which the presenter said something to the effect, if you have a diameter larger than 7 you have other problems, suggested that really anymore than around 4 is probably to much. Dave David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38293t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Byte count [7:38294]
Hello, Can anyone guide me where to find a complete list of the average packet size protocol. I know that ip is 1024,dlsw is 512 that is it. I am taking my lab soon and I would love some help. Reagrds Zape _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38294t=38294 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Management VLANs? [7:38282]
I think Cisco generally recommends that your switch mgmt interface is on a different VLAN than your regular (read: end-user/server) devices. This helps isolate broadcast/multicast traffic so the switch CPU doesn't have to process it - especially critical in networks where there is a high percentage of broadcast/multicast traffic. Additionally, there's a security component to this line of thinking; if you have an isolated subnet purely for switch management then you can restrict (at the router) who is allowed into that network; this is in addition to the various access controls you can employ on the individual switches. A word of caution though...I wouldn't recommend that you have a single mgmt VLAN that spanned your entire network unless you work in a really small shop - this breaks all sorts of rules in the Core-Distribution-Access religion and can be difficult to manage. Last note; I've seen a document (but can't place my fingers on it now) that recommended that you NOT use VLAN # 1 as your mgmt VLAN. Unfortunately it didn't elaborate as to why. HTH, Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Kelker Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Management VLANs? [7:38282] this isn't a direct CCNP cert question, but I was thinking of trying to make my network infrastructure easier to navigate. I was thinking of creating a VLAN on a certain IP scheme and have each piece of equipment have a virutal interface on it. Am I going about this the right way? How do some of you address this issue? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38296t=38282 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stacker and Predictor? [7:38286]
That explaination from Dowey is straight from the BCRAN book and 100% correct Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38297t=38286 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC on Private IP Address v.s. RIP/IGRP [7:38190]
At 11:16 PM 3/13/02, Chuck wrote: interesting way to put the question. but.. 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16 are CIDR notation. It's also simply a notation used by humans to save on the typing required. You will often see the private class B addresses listed as 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255. That's the same thing as 172.16.0.0/12. Notice that the first 12 bits are the same in all the network addresses in the 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 range, so why not save on some typing? Priscilla any subnets within those ranges would default to the classfull values based upon the first couple of bits. remembering that 0 in the first position is class A, 10 in the first two positions indicate class B, and 110 in the first three positions indicate class C. RIP and IGRP are classful, and would note the classful values. and my apologies for putting this answer into the BGP thread. The news server ate my post, and.. Cebuano wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ladies and gents, If you are all aware of the RFC on Private IP Address allocation, it specifies that 172.16.0.0 uses /12 and 192.168.0.0 uses /16. Now does this mean our old friends RIP and IGRP are aware of this when they perform the First-Octet Rule to apply the mask for these network ranges accordingly? Please someone clarify this subtle issue. Thanks. Elmer Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38298t=38190 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CLI for 1900 Switch [7:37805]
You need enterprise edition IOS software. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38299t=37805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38300]
The answer everyone keeps giving you is no. Mark Odette II wrote: OK, For some reason, my first time of sending this reply got chopped, so here it is again. Brian, et al., Please Note the following: ***All I wanted to know was: Can the Loopback Interface be used to host a complete subnet (and the Router make routing decisions with this inteface), or is its functionality such that it will always respond like an interface configured with a 255.255.255.255 mask, and 86 traffic not destined for IT on the same subnet?? I'm not looking for someone to help me make a completely working config for all routers in this implementation. The idea is to do such: !Interface FastEthernet0 ! description Connected to PIX Outside Interface, and PIX Inside Interface is subnet for Data traffic. ! Ip adress x.x.x.x 255.255.255.x !Interface Loopback0 ! description VoIP subnet with VoIP originating/terminating on this Router... other hosts also placed on the same subnet at a later date, and connecting via the Ethernet Port which connects to a switch that the other hosts are also plugging into. ! Ip address 192.168.101.1 255.255.255.0 !Interface Serial0 ! NO IP ADDRESS ! Encap Frame-Relay !Interface Serial0.1 ! description Connected to the Internet ! Ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.252 ! interface-dlci 16 !Interface Serial0.100 ! description Connected to HQ over PVT FR for Voice traffic ! ip unnumbered loopback0 ! interface-dlci 100 ! {insert Map-Class Tag here} !{Insert Route-Maps Here} !{Insert Voice configuration here... a.k.a. Dial Peers} !{Insert QoS config here... a.k.a. Map Classes} !Router EIGRP 1750 !Network 192.168.100.0 Brian Mark Odette II wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll make the question simpler. Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an ethernet interface? Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0 Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1 Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing process, such as EIGRP or RIP. Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface. Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network. add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration. And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface. What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask for all hosts including loopback interface. I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P subinterface. Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each respective router. Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network). Is this Possible?? The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired. The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet. For Topology description: Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3 remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface. Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic only (no Data traffic) Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1 Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1 ... So much for a simpler reply. :) Thanks in advance for everyones' comments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tshon Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933] What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we
Re: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272]
What you are seeing is that you still have a L2 interface. you have combined multiple interfaces into one, and then assigned the one interface an IP address. Check CCO on switching. Jeffrey Reed wrote: Check out the link I pasted in my original email on how to configure a Layer 3 channel. It shows these commands and a little more: Router# configure terminal Router(config)# interface port-channel 1 Router(config-if)# ip address 172.32.52.10 255.255.255.0 I never saw it before... Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Letterman Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] You cant set etherchannel to a layer 3 address, not in any of the cisco switches I had. Its only a layer 2 link, not a layer 3 link. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Reed Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L2 VS L3 EtherChannel [7:38272] When would you use Layer 3 EtherChannel? Ive bonded layer two links together before, but not sure when you could/should use the layer 3 EtherChannel? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/ios127xe/config/ channel.htm#12748 Thanks!! Jeff Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Confidential e-mail for addressee only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy the original communication. 1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38301t=38272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Management VLANs? [7:38282]
Not sure, I'm understanding your question but try this. Make all of your switches operate in Vlan 2 all other management protocolsCDP,VTP and such are in VLAN 1 and then use the rest of your vlan for date traffic from hosts. Michael Kelker wrote: this isn't a direct CCNP cert question, but I was thinking of trying to make my network infrastructure easier to navigate. I was thinking of creating a VLAN on a certain IP scheme and have each piece of equipment have a virutal interface on it. Am I going about this the right way? How do some of you address this issue? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38302t=38282 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295]
I have heard good things about the Exam Cram. If you don't have them already, i would pick up the Caslow and Doyle books as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295] Would anyone recommend book(s) to study fo CCIE writen exam? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38303t=38295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hex to Decimal for the RD [7:38223]
At 09:01 AM 3/14/02, Mckenzie Bill wrote: Could someone help me get a clear understanding of converting the hex number to a nice decimal ring number or bridge number. Two examples that have me stumped are: F00 and 2f2. Why would just those two numbers have you stumped? If you can do any number, then you can do them all, it seems to me. Were those the ones on the test? ;-) The only weird thing that you might not know, but certainly should know, is that a number can only be one digit, so decimal to hex is: 1 = 1 2 = 2 3 = 3 4 = 4 5 = 5 6 = 6 7 = 7 8 = 8 9 = 9 10 = A 11 = B 12 = C 13 = D 14 = E 15 = F I still remember the first time I heard an IBM customer engineer talk in Able Baker Charley, etc. language. I thought he had gone off his rocker. Other than that, you just have to know what each number place means. On the right, 16^0 = the ones (just like 10^0 = the ones in decimal). 16^1 is the next place. 16^2 is the next and so on. It's no different than decimal, except that you're dealing with groups of 16 instead of 10. Priscilla Thanks Everyone in advance. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38304t=38223 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating Serial cross over cable [7:38280]
I've looked in to it before, quite a while ago when crossover cables didn't seem to be around and the only cables on the market were the Cisco DCE and DTE at about 80 quid each. I messed about with a break out box and multimeter, and found that there were pins connected in the DCE which weren't in the DTE (or vice versa (or both)). At about 20 dollars for a crossover cable it's probably not worth your while even if you manage to prove me wrong, unless you have a specific reason for doing it that way. There are even people on the group that sell them. I won't advertise at the moment, but I've ordered a couple of hundred dollars worth this week, so I'll let you know what the service/product is like when they turn up. Regards, Gaz Joe Lin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am trying to figure out my options for creating 60pin serial cross over cables. If I had 2 cables that are 60pin to 25pin, can I just buy a 25pin null-modem cable, connect them and create a serial crossover? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38307t=38280 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Management VLANs? [7:38282]
maybe I'm making this whole thing too complicated. What if I just put a loopback interface on each router/switch on a management subnet. what I'm trying to attempt is to make my entire router / switching structure easier to access by not having to remember exactly which whole ip address is for which router, rather could say that's router 10 so it's 10.10.10.10 (as an example). Michael Kelker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... this isn't a direct CCNP cert question, but I was thinking of trying to make my network infrastructure easier to navigate. I was thinking of creating a VLAN on a certain IP scheme and have each piece of equipment have a virutal interface on it. Am I going about this the right way? How do some of you address this issue? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38305t=38282 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
Once you have your NAT set up, the pix will allow stateful sessions back in through the firewall, ie. If you browse from inside to outside, the session will be allowed back in. Ping (ICMP) is slightly different, it is not a single outgoing session. It is an outgoing packet followed by a separate reply. Your conduits or access lists are required only to allow incoming sessions, or, (in the case of access-lists) if you require to restrict outgoing sessions. My technical grammar may be a little off the mark, but it should clear up the thought process. Regards, Gaz Justin C wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mark, My original question that I sent to the group somehow got lost. Ole was kind enough to respond to a direct query regarding to some fun I am having with installing a Pix (501) for the first time. My firewall background is SonicWall and Watchguard, both are very simple in configuration and work directly out of the box. I was under the impression it was pretty much plug and play, so I decided to test it by putting it between my PC and the rest of the LAN. However, after the initial setup, the Pix passed no information through it. So I went to a ping to start the troubleshooting. The curious (to me) issue was that from the console or the PDM of the Pix I can ping network addresses on both sides of the Pix. From the inside of the Pix, I cannot ping (or browse the web) through the Pix. I cannot even ping the outside interface of the Pix from the inside interface. The specific question is this ... is additional configuration of the Pix required to permit access from the inside interface to the outside interface and beyond? To expand on the topic you and Ole are discussing, is the use of the conduits (or access-lists) required for each and every type of service I want to send from the inside to the outside? I have no problem researching the commands to learn how it is done, I just want to make certain I am on the right path. Thanks, Justin From: Mark Odette II Reply-To: Mark Odette II To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:45:59 -0500 Forgive me for not reading the book yet, as I've been quite busy too ... but, I have a question in regards to the config line you gave. I've used the PDM so far to most of the configuration of my PIX, and it creates access-lists rather than conduits. I know from others I've talked with, that Cisco is moving from conduits to access-lists on the PIX configs... this is the question I configure to allow ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Echo Reply ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Time Exceeded ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Unreachable Does this do the same thing as what you were saying about conduit permit any any X?? I think it does, but just want to make sure that I haven't opened up ICMP completely with it being initiated from the outside. Thanks! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246] Hi Justin, When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol. When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP echo-reply (number 0) back to A. The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside, so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply). The command for that is: conduit permit icmp any any 0 This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want PING to work both ways, simply use this command: conduit permit icmp any any Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Ole, Thanks for the reply. I understand being busy. I normally try to solve these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time. I spent six hours on it yesterday. Justin From: Ole Drews Jensen To: 'Justin C' Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600 I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not. I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these days, as there are many projects I have to finish. I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from yesterday, and help you out. Try the
RE: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295]
Cisco Press TCP/IP Volumes I II CISCO Certification: Bridges, Routers Switches for CCIEs, ISBN0130903892 Routing Architectures by Halabi, 157870233X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295] Would anyone recommend book(s) to study fo CCIE writen exam? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38308t=38295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Byte count [7:38294]
At 04:15 PM 3/14/02, zapeta zape wrote: Hello, Can anyone guide me where to find a complete list of the average packet size protocol. I know that ip is 1024 IP usually use 1500 for protocols that send blocks of data, such as FTP and HTTP. On the other hand, a lot of Web servers use less to make it look like you're getting better performance. (You see the Web page arrive in chunks). Telnet sends one character per packet, by default, which adds up to 64 bytes on an Ethernet segment (it requires padding). DHCP packets are often about 200-300. Routing protocols vary. RIP uses 512. Others use 1500. SMTP varies. It will send 1500 bytes if the message is that long, but often it's not. In other words, you need to know the application to answer the question. I have always claimed, in fact, that an average packet size if a somewhat useless statistic. What you really want to know is if applications are sending what you expect them to send. (This requires doing a baseline analysis.) In my Top-Down Network Design book, I provide quite a few examples of packet sizes for typical applications. That might help you. dlsw is 512 Really? Why does DLSW use only a 512-byte packet? FTP and HTTP would often have to be fragmented if that were the case. I used to know DLSW but I don't any more Priscilla I am taking my lab soon and I would love some help. Reagrds Zape _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38309t=38294 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kentrox vs. Adtran CSU/DSU [7:38252]
Hehehe. That's one good reason not to live in New England. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... TO me a csu is a csu. I personally don't have any preference, but I do prefer being able to configure channels on the front screen as opposed to having proprietary cables and wacky key combinations to access menus. I once had to drive 2.5 hours one way in a snow storm to Cape Cod (no I wasn't barefoot and it wasn't up hill both ways :D ) to reconfigure some channels with ATT only to find out that I didn't have the right cables and connectors to do the cut over. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Doug Korell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have used Kentrox Satellite 651 CSU/DSU's before but looking at the Adtran TSU ACE CSU/DSU. Does anyone have an opinion of the Adtran? It's a little cheaper than the Kentrox and you don't have to buy the cables which are about $60 each for 10'. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38310t=38252 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAQ's [7:38311]
Has anyone ever attempted to set up a FAQ section on the groupstudy.com website? I know that there are afew questions that are asked all the time such as What equipment do I need for my home lab? or what books do I need to study for the CCIE exam? etc,., etc., I'm pretty certain that the people asking this do not know that these questions have been asked a million times, so it would be easier to just send them to the faq site instead of answering them a million times. Just a thought. Paul, maybe you could charge companies to be listed under the What equipment do I need for my home lab? FAQ on the web site to click to when they need equipemnt -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38311t=38311 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF neighbour query [7:38312]
HI Guys I have an OSPF question andmy network setup is as follows: R1--Switch--R2 R1 has an ip addres of 10.103.56.97/20 and R2 has an ip address of 10.103.56.1/21. Under OSPF the foll network command is present network 10.103.56.0 0.0.7.255 area 8. Both the routers are in the same area. The problem is that they dont form neighbours. When i ping 224.0.0.5 from both the routers both of them respond and there is no problem at layer3, ican ping each other. i did a debug on R1 and get the foll OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 Its a plain config with no changes to the timer, i am assuming that since they are a broadcast ospf net work they should form neighbours. Also the foll output will be helpfull, R1#FastEthernet1/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.97/20, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 209.25.40.16, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 209.25.40.16, Interface address 10.103.56.97 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:03 Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) - R2#sh ip ospf in FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.1/21, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 10.96.255.70, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 10.96.255.70, Interface address 10.103.56.1 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:07 Index 4/4, flood queue length 0 Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0) Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0 Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) Pls advise, i am going crazy over it. Thanks in advance. cheers naresh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38312t=38312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF neighbour query [7:38312]
the mask is the wrong length. neighbors have to agree on mask length. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Chhetri Naresh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI Guys I have an OSPF question andmy network setup is as follows: R1--Switch--R2 R1 has an ip addres of 10.103.56.97/20 and R2 has an ip address of 10.103.56.1/21. Under OSPF the foll network command is present network 10.103.56.0 0.0.7.255 area 8. Both the routers are in the same area. The problem is that they dont form neighbours. When i ping 224.0.0.5 from both the routers both of them respond and there is no problem at layer3, ican ping each other. i did a debug on R1 and get the foll OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 Its a plain config with no changes to the timer, i am assuming that since they are a broadcast ospf net work they should form neighbours. Also the foll output will be helpfull, R1#FastEthernet1/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.97/20, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 209.25.40.16, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 209.25.40.16, Interface address 10.103.56.97 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:03 Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) - R2#sh ip ospf in FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.1/21, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 10.96.255.70, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 10.96.255.70, Interface address 10.103.56.1 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:07 Index 4/4, flood queue length 0 Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0) Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0 Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) Pls advise, i am going crazy over it. Thanks in advance. cheers naresh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38313t=38312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF neighbour query [7:38312]
Reading your output further, the router told you that the masks didn't match: OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... the mask is the wrong length. neighbors have to agree on mask length. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Chhetri Naresh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI Guys I have an OSPF question andmy network setup is as follows: R1--Switch--R2 R1 has an ip addres of 10.103.56.97/20 and R2 has an ip address of 10.103.56.1/21. Under OSPF the foll network command is present network 10.103.56.0 0.0.7.255 area 8. Both the routers are in the same area. The problem is that they dont form neighbours. When i ping 224.0.0.5 from both the routers both of them respond and there is no problem at layer3, ican ping each other. i did a debug on R1 and get the foll OSPF: Mismatched hello parameters from 10.103.56.1 Dead R 40 C 40, Hello R 10 C 10 Mask R 255.255.248.0 C 255.255.240.0 Its a plain config with no changes to the timer, i am assuming that since they are a broadcast ospf net work they should form neighbours. Also the foll output will be helpfull, R1#FastEthernet1/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.97/20, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 209.25.40.16, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 209.25.40.16, Interface address 10.103.56.97 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:03 Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) - R2#sh ip ospf in FastEthernet0/0 FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 10.103.56.1/21, Area 8 Process ID 65514, Router ID 10.96.255.70, Network Type BROADCAST, Cost: 1 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 Designated Router (ID) 10.96.255.70, Interface address 10.103.56.1 No backup designated router on this network Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 00:00:07 Index 4/4, flood queue length 0 Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0) Last flood scan length is 0, maximum is 0 Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 0 msec Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) Pls advise, i am going crazy over it. Thanks in advance. cheers naresh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38314t=38312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295]
For the written i probably wouldn;t go with either of Doyles books - save those for the lab!! :) The best book is the Caslow book, followed by either the Exam Cram or the Sybex book (neither of these books are particularly brilliant in their own write - pardon the pun!but are tailored to the exam and are good as a revision). norco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Would anyone recommend book(s) to study fo CCIE writen exam? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38315t=38295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FAQ's [7:38311]
I seem to remember that someone started to put an FAQ together but from the looks of it they never finished it. Perhaps someone should start compiling one again? Please send all FAQ submissions to Steven at [EMAIL PROTECTED]! :-) Just kidding! This would be a great idea, though. I think it would be really nice if people were forced to read through the FAQ before being allowed to post the first time. John Steven A. Ridder 3/14/02 3:41:38 PM Has anyone ever attempted to set up a FAQ section on the groupstudy.com website? I know that there are afew questions that are asked all the time such as What equipment do I need for my home lab? or what books do I need to study for the CCIE exam? etc,., etc., I'm pretty certain that the people asking this do not know that these questions have been asked a million times, so it would be easier to just send them to the faq site instead of answering them a million times. Just a thought. Paul, maybe you could charge companies to be listed under the What equipment do I need for my home lab? FAQ on the web site to click to when they need equipemnt -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38316t=38311 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38317]
Would have been nice if someone actually put it that way... all responses seemed to be confused as to what I was wanting to do until I put in the form of my last reply. Thanks for the input. Mark -Original Message- From: Tshon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Mark Odette II Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces..long reply, read carefully please to [7:38285] The answer everyone keeps giving you is no. Mark Odette II wrote: OK, For some reason, my first time of sending this reply got chopped, sohere it is again.Brian, et al.,Please Note the following:***All I wanted to know was: Can the Loopback Interface be used to host acomplete subnet (and the Router make routing decisions with this inteface),or is its functionality such that it will always respond like an interfaceconfigured with a 255.255.255.255 mask, and 86 traffic not destined for ITon the same subnet??I'm not looking for someone to help me make a completely working config forall routers in this implementation.The idea is to do such:!Interface FastEthernet0! description Connected to PIX Outside Interface, and PIX Inside Interfaceis subnet for Data traffic.! Ip adress x.x.x.x 255.255.255.x!Interface Loopback0! description VoIP subnet with VoIP originating/terminating on thisRouter... other hosts also placed on the same subnet at a later date, andconnecting via the Ethernet Port which connects to a switch that the otherhosts are also plugging into.! Ip address 192.168.101.1 255.255.255.0!Interface Serial0!NO IP ADDRESS! Encap Frame-Relay!Interface Serial0.1! description Connected to the Internet! Ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.252! interface-dlci 16!Interface Serial0.100!description Connected to HQ over PVT FR for Voice traffic! ip unnumbered loopback0! interface-dlci 100! {insert Map-Class Tag here}!{Insert Route-Maps Here}!{Insert Voice configuration here... a.k.a. Dial Peers}!{Insert QoS config here... a.k.a. Map Classes}!Router EIGRP 1750!Network 192.168.100.0 BrianMark Odette II wrote in message[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'll make the question simpler.Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use anethernet interface?Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routingprocess, such as EIGRP or RIP.Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface.Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network.add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRPAS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration.And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface.What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopbackinterface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the samesubnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet maskfor all hosts including loopback interface.I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-Psubinterface.Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on eachrespective router.Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the wire (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopbackinterface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network).Is this Possible??The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan toassign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believethat the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ipunnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired.The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NATTranslating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet.For Topology description:Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface.Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR trafficonly (no Data traffic)Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1... So much for a simpler reply. :)Thanks in advance for everyones' comments.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf OfTshonSent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]What in the