Re: [CGUYS] Adobe update messed up printing PDF files

2011-03-31 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Wayne Dernoncourt
 My wife said that the printing on a PDF file was squished.
 Squished?  I couldn't tell what was going on so I looked
 at it, the copy on the screen is fine, when she prints out,
 it's wrong.  The original text was italicized, the printed
 is bolded.  I don't know much of anything else about fonts,
 Helvetica from Times, etc.

 I updated her Acrobat this past weekend, I have to figure
 that this is related.  Does anyone have a clue on how to
 figure out what got whacked and how to unwhack it?

 All help is gratefully appreciated.

Responding to my own message...
It also seems that the kerning is messed up, the text height
may as well but that could be an optical illusion going from
italics to bold, etc.

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[CGUYS] Adobe update messed up printing PDF files

2011-03-30 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
My wife said that the printing on a PDF file was squished.
Squished?  I couldn't tell what was going on so I looked
at it, the copy on the screen is fine, when she prints out,
it's wrong.  The original text was italicized, the printed
is bolded.  I don't know much of anything else about fonts,
Helvetica from Times, etc.

I updated her Acrobat this past weekend, I have to figure
that this is related.  Does anyone have a clue on how to
figure out what got whacked and how to unwhack it?

All help is gratefully appreciated.

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Re: [CGUYS] iphone apps

2011-03-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I think you have to be in OSX environment for IOS development.  I would love to 
be wrong.

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On Mar 8, 2011, at 2:01 AM, D Freye dfr...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 My friend wants to develope iphone apps on his $3000 desktop quadcore
 win7 machine. It runs VM at all times. Can you suggest anything in terms
 of soft or hard wares to get him started.
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[CGUYS] LaserJet M1522nf drivers...

2010-12-31 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I'm getting frustrated.  My wife's printer on her computer has
had issues for the past 4 or 5 months, she keeps getting new
copies of the printer (HP1522, HP1522 copy 1, etc.), I'm
trying to get this to work before we go off on vacation...  I
heard the solution was to delete and reinstall the most
current version of the driver from HP.  By now, I think I've
tried installing every version of the driver that HP has.

Some versions of the driver will look like it's expanding the
executable and then it quits with no error messages.  Hmmm,
some of the versions will expand, start running, tell me to
plug in the USB cable and the app never gets the cable
insertion signal, the computer starts going through the
balloons saying it found new hardware.  Right now I'm waiting
for my wife to show up where she stored (aka hid) the disk
that came with the printer to reinstall the driver from that.

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Re: [CGUYS] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
b_s-wilk
 snip
 Regarding Flash, Adobe has a knack for buying good
 programs and breaking, discontinuing, or overpricing
 them. Have they created any of their own products
 lately [in the past 15 years]?

 Apple didn't entirely ban Flash anyway. They require
 that apps for touch screens be developed using the
 Apple SDK. Adobe refused to use the SDK or to make
 Flash more open--it's totally proprietary. There's no
 guarantee that Flash will work properly without
 interfering with the underlying system.

I don't know if there's a distinction there or not...

 I don't like Flash. It's overused unnecessarily. It
 doesn't belong on most web pages where simpler
 non-proprietary code works better and
 faster--contributes too much to the World Wide
 Wait and crashes.

I agree with this 100%.  I also note the bit of hypocrisy
where the Apple web site uses flash.

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Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 21 Mar 2010 to 22 Mar 2010 (#2010-38)

2010-03-24 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa
 On Mar 23, 2010, at 2:48 PM, mike wrote:
 Yeah I covered that too in the past.  I'm not arguing
 you are not safer on a mac, I'm arguing the same thing
 Miller is verifying, macs are safer because they are
 such a small portion of the market and the hackers don't
 spend time going after them, not because they are coded
 by perfect beings up on a mountain top.

 This is such a ridiculous assertion. If Macs were attacked
 less often this type of assertion might have some merit,
 but it completely fails to explain why the number of
 exploits is zero.

Uhhh, raises hand in the past, the Mac marketplace was
much smaller, the likelihood of finding a Mac to infect was
equally likely small.  If there was three chances in a
hundred systems of infecting a computer, would aim for the
three systems?  Also, the most infectious varieties seem to
be peer based, that is they spread between like architecture
machines.  In our current environment, how many companies
have a preponderance of Mac's (except for Apple, etc.)?

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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Fred Holmes
 At 07:30 PM 3/15/2010, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's
and uses WordPerfect.  She's talking about moving to Word
but _really_ doesn't want to.  She uses WP for everything
including file management.

 WordPerfect is a far superior product to Word.  WordPerfect
 was very late migrating to Windows and had very poor
 marketing.  Thus MS already had the market share.  And Word
 is good enough for 99% of the people, so they didn't
 consider trying something new.

 /RANT

 A good virtual PDF printer (puts print to PDF as an
 additional printer on the print menu) is CutePDF Writer.
 Freeware.

 http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/Writer.asp
 snip

I'm reluctant to put anything from cuteanything - they
have a history of putting spyware in the program.  At least
now they seem to ask/insist on putting on your computer - at
least they now _seem_ to ask.  I'm still wary.

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[CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I've showed my wife how to use PDF Creator, it seems
to have at least a few limitations:
 - has to be run as an Administrator
 - it only will print one page, there's no error
   message, it's just that nothing happens until
   you cancel the print job and get a dialog and
   get a single page

I did print out an 8 page document on Valeries PC one
page at a time, transfer them to the Mac with a stick
and then used my Mac to combine them into one file.
Obviously this is horrible.  Does anyone have a good,
inexpensive piece of PDF file creation s/w that doesn't
need admin priv's, etc.

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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Mac or PC?

 I use Software 995.  (Paid version.) PC

Valerie insists on a PC with WordPerfect.  Me, I
use a Mac that includes PDF creation as a service.

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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
John Duncan Yoyo
 Open Office lets you print directly to PDF and it
 is free.

I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's
and uses WordPerfect.  She's talking about moving to Word
but _really_ doesn't want to.  She uses WP for everything
including file management.

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Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application

2010-03-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 PDF995 (Part of Software995 Suite)

 Installs as a print drive and when you click print
 select PDF and you have it.

 Love the program.  It is not expensive and you get
 some nice utilities with it.

 It will work out of any program even Word Perfect.

I looked at the website and liked it.  I plan to install
it this weekend.  PDF Creator also installs as a printer
driver, unfortunately there are issues...

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Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad

2010-03-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Stewart Marshall
 He is up tight because I said it is not reality yet
 until it hits the shelves.

I thought the MS slate/pad/tablet thingie was called the
Courier, last I heard it was very much in the prototype
stage.

I don't know if they're going to run Windows Mobile 7 or
Windows 7 on it.

 I say that about anything until it hits retail shelves.

 The Windows Mobile 7 phone is not reality until it hits
 store shelves.

 In my opinion the phone I most want to look at the
 Motorola Devour is not reality until it hits store
 shelves.  (All I can find is a stupid dummy phone to
 look at.)

Yup

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Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-06 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 Hardly. You're blowing this all out of proportion.
A better comparison would be that we're all aware
 we can be filmed while on that bridge.

 You have no reasonable expectation of privacy on the
 bridge. You do in your bedroom. If the school system
 was going to violate that reasonable expectation, it
 had a duty to inform, but it did not.  From the
 available facts, what the school system did was
 horribly wrong, and there's no way around it.

I don't know if it was the school system or some pervert...
I wonder if the VP might get thrown under the bus?

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Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal

2010-03-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 On 03/04/2010 01:48 PM, John Settle wrote:

 Don't sue the school district. Prosecute the
 people who did the deed.  They should not be
 allowed to hide behind the school district.

 Hear! Hear ! Well said.

 You are supposing that the school district wasn't
 responsible for the actions of its employees and
 contractors in this situation.  For example, why
 did the laptops have the commercial equivalent of
 Adeona if not as part of employees attempting to
 protect the property and rights of the school
 district?

I don't think this is going to go away, I believe the
FBI has been called in, child porn??

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Re: [CGUYS] charlie miller speaks (he's the security expert taking macs and windows down at pwn2own)

2010-03-02 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa
 On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Judy Cosler wrote:
 what is the issue with Flash?

 Probably because it is not Silverlight. That would be
 consistent with the rest of his comments.

 Not that I want to defend either Flash or Silverlight.
 HTML5 will go a long way to making them both superfluous.

I think Flash has other issues, for example Flash cookies
that store information about you even if you have cookies
disabled as long as Flash/javascript are enabled.  I hope
that HTML5 fixes everything, but I have to wonder what
holes are exposed.

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Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-02-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
  Knife the baby??! Good Lord, he must be doing
  something I haven't heard about. He's a war profiteer,
  maybe? He's been selling munitions to terrorists?
  snip

 This is a reference from the antitrust trial.  See
 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CGN/is_3533/ai_53185748/
 for ... the details.

 Yes, I know. My point was that Gates was being explicitly
 compared to people who made the money they gave away from
 war profiteering and the like. Gates sells computer
 software.

I think this is more about market control than a free market
for software.

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Re: [CGUYS] Better Late than Never

2010-02-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 Microsoft is to pull out all the stops in a bid to
 lock down security on its products, considered by
 many as the company's Achilles heel.
 Chairman and founder Bill Gates has called for a
 fundamental shift to focus on improved security
 against hackers and viruses.

 In a memo sent to the US firm's 47,000 employees,
 Mr Gates said that locking down Microsoft's products,
 a strategy he has dubbed 'trustworthy computing', ... 

 Yes, a focus on improved security obviously means We
 will find and fix every possible vulnerability in
 millions of lines of code, and, from now on, no security
 issues will ever be reported.

A 17 year old bug should've been code that's undergone
repeated inspections and testing.  I don't know what the
details are, but I wonder if it's a typical buffer over-run
flaw?

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Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it

2010-02-06 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
  Doesn't justify how they got that money.  And Gates
 goes from Knife the baby to savior...

 Knife the baby??! Good Lord, he must be doing
 something I haven't heard about. He's a war profiteer,
 maybe? He's been selling munitions to terrorists?
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This is a reference from the antitrust trial.  See
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CGN/is_3533/ai_53185748/
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Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa
 I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a
 file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't
 delete or rename.

 rm -i * does prompt me with the file name, buy when I
 reply y it says no such file or directory.

 Any suggestions for deletion?

Re-reading this, does the filename include the quotes?

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Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:03 AM, John Emmerling wrote:
 rm -i Icon\\r
 rm -i 'Icon\\r'
 rm -i Icon\r
 rm -i 'Icon\r'

Maybe rm -if ./Ico*

You may have to drop the i part and wipe out Icoa, Icob, etc.

I thought there was an option to delete by the inode, but I
don't see it mentioned on the man page.

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Re: [CGUYS] AAAHH, the old days

2009-12-24 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rosenberg, Alan [USA]
 The old days??

 The old days were when an IBM 7094 (the powerhouse of
 its day) filled a room with a raised floor, dedicated
 air conditioning, and a crew of operators, cost
 megabucks to buy (or lease) and maintain, had a cycle
 time measured in microseconds, and a maximum memory
 capacity equivalent to 32KB.

My first system was a PDP-11/40 with a max memory of 124kw
(248kbytes, 8kbytes were devoted to I/O and CSR) with a
66mb disk drive and a tape drive - that was in 1979...

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Re: [CGUYS] Right computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
t.piwowar
 Creative accounting and refusing to admit the real costs.

 When you lock down a computer you have greatly reduced its
 functionality. People can't do as much with a locked down
 computer.  Their productivity is lower. Their creativity
 is lower.

 It is not a fair comparison when that cost is ignored.

Locking down a community machine is expected.  Doing anything
else is ridiculous.  I might like my desktop one way, you
another, somebody else, etc.  The purpose of the machines
might be to provide some limited means of providing editing
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Re: [CGUYS] Android feedback

2009-12-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
mike
 I've had no regrets with my android phone, got the
 hero, no keyboard and it's great.  I've not been
 wanting for apps in the least, everything I've gone
 looking for, I've found.  There are a couple things
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My boss at work (as opposed to the boss at home...), his
girl friend now has a Droid (ATT coverage is non-existent
in the area).  The boss is a self-admitted and unashamed
MFB, he reports that the GF is having problems with butt
dialing and a poor user interface.  From all of the
reports I've seen none of that is reported.  Are others
having the same sorts of issues?

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Re: [CGUYS] A Tale of Two Hard Drives: Apple's Secret Wea pon?

2009-11-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
mike
 More crap from Tom.

 Top 17 macbook pro runs 2500 dollars

 For under 1800 I can get a system with

 17 display (1680 x 1050) as opposed to apple's 1920 x 1200
 intel i7 1.73 cpu to apple's older 2.8 core 2 duo
 intel mainboard on both machines
 4 gigs ddr3 memory on both machines
 geforce 250m with 1 gig of ram to Apples 9600m with 512
 bluetooth, webcam, hdmi out..no hdmi on apple
 500 gig 7200 HD opposed to apple's 500 gig 5400 drive
 8x dvdrw
 gigabit network adapter

 So for 700 dollars less I get a smaller resolution for
 my screen.  Much better graphics, faster HD..HDMI.
 1 year warranty on both machines.  Apple has the
 advantage of stores which may be lcoal to you.

 So in the end it's up to you to decide if the 700 dollar
 difference is worth it.  But...there is a 700 dollar
 difference.

I think the biggest thing you get for $700 is support,
local support.  I hate to sound like a bigot, but I've
gotten support from people whose accents I couldn't
understand.  I actually got a Mac for different reasons,
I got tired of the refrain from MS - well, we will fix
_all_ of the mistakes we made in this version of Windows
and next time it _will_ be enterprise ready and then
watching them not deliver.  With Windows 7, they may
actually be able to claim that they succeeded.

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Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-10-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 trying to drag this back to 'puters - sort of
 Verizon also did not want to be stuck with the
 problems.  From what I understood Apple wanted
 everything but was willing to give nothing.
 Verizon said we wont play that game.

I'm not so sure that it wasn't more that Verizon and
Apple wanted opposite ends of the control spectrum.
They both wanted to control the platform, I don't
know who walked or if ATT wanted the same thing and
blinked first.

 So Apple approached ATT and ATT jumped at the deal
 because they needed a way to bring more folks in.
 (Sounds a lot like deceptive marketing to me).

How much worse was ATT's network that Verizon's at the
iPhone intro?  As I understand it, the iPhone eats data
service like candy.

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Re: [CGUYS] Pogue Feeling Sorry for M$

2009-09-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?8dpc

 Zune's reputation as the player for weirdos and losers.
 Among the under-25 set, Zune is a punch line

 Wow!

 Boy, you really had to hunt for something negative in that
 review, didn't you? How strange that you didn't quote the
 very next sentence:
 snip

The one thing I miss about the Zune is a version of the s/w for
the Mac.  Don't get me wrong, my slightly less than a year-old
iPod is fine, but I want competition!  Few actual MP3 players
begin to measure to the iPod and those that will work with a
Mac don't do very well.

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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 OK on the Mackey thing.  Yes I did read it, and he has
 some great things to say, HOWEVER.

 You must have government mandate minimums.  If they do
 not many companies will try and fly through with a
 bunch of worthless insurance.
 snip

 Rev, now you miss his point.  If you allow companies to
 compete over state lines, removing their captive
 audience, you won't *need* mandates.  That's what
 competition is best at providing: choice.

I'm behind on my email, but one problem is that anymore
there are few actual insurance companies.  The big ones keep
buying the smaller ones to limit competition.

 It's also good at providing lower cost alternatives.

H, it seems that they are good at dropping people who
actually need to use their services.  See examples of
recision by the health insurance companies.  If someone
gets sick and starts costing them money hurting the profit
potential of the company, the insurance company finds a way
to ditch the person/company.

 snip

 What we need is more health plans like this
 right

 No, what we need are more companies to provide
 competitive pressure.  Your company doesn't provide it?
 That's OK, these 6 others do.  Let markets do what they
 do best: weed out the losers.

Hmmm, update - 4 companies, the other two were bought out.

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Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...

2009-09-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Mike
 Only your misunformation on this one. I doubt when he
 mentions single payer federal system he is talking
 about just Illinois.

 I dont get why the lefties dont want to admit this is
 the goal, what are they afraid of?  It's very difficult
 to have any real discourse when facts are so easily
 shoved aside. All you have to do is listen to Obama and
 others who represent him. Admitting this is the goal
 would mean we could have an honest conversation about
 the merits or lack of with this kind of system. We are
 entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.

What goal?  I personally would prefer a single payer,
government/non-profit organization based health insurance.
Why?  Commercial insurance typically has share holders and
share holders want profits.  Profits are insurance premiums
minus insurance disbursements, if a person becomes a patient
that will cost the insurance company money, the insurance
company will find a way to delay any procedure.  Refer to
the high school girl in Arizona(?) that needed a liver
transplant, the insurance company said the procedure was
experimental and declined the procedure.  The case
attracted attention, eventually the insurance company
okayed the surgery, unfortunately the girl died a couple
of hours (?days?) after the okay.  I'm sure the insurance
company was glad they saved the money.  Bill Moyers had a
show about the topic with a person who was a whistle blower,
look up Wendell Potter.

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Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com | Why ATT Killed Google Voice

2009-08-23 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
TPiwowar
 On Aug 23, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Mike wrote:
 So you know google is lying...how do you know that?

 The issue is not Google or Apple lying. It is you trying
 to insert misinformation into the account of what transpired.

 GV was not rejected by Apple. It was not approved. The
 two are not the same.

slashdot.org has a link to an article on techcrunch(??)
discussing the status of the FCC responses.  Some were
heavily redacted.

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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
TPiwowar
 On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
 I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
 you point me to one of those blogs?  On the other hand, every day
 I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
 And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that came with
 version 2 of the OS.

 Of course you didn't. Mike is engaging in the Big Lie Technique,
 as he often does.

I have a MacBook Pro because it does most of what I want it to do
the best.  I wanted to find an MP3 player to use with it, first I
had an Insignia (house brand of BestBuy), total piece of crap.  The
wheel was flimsy/cheesy and went back a couple of days later.  Then
I tried a Sansa ?something? - it worked better, but not by much.
When I lost it, I didn't look hard for it (returning it to Amazon
was to much trouble).  I spent a couple of days looking for
something else that wasn't iPod and ended up with an iPod.

I had given up on Windows when I kept hearing the phrase This
time we _really_ did an excellent job and then seeing what
they produced...  I tried Linux and the version I tried wouldn't
play DVD's or rip CD's to MP3's.   I didn't have much inclination
to fool with it much - I want it to work.

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Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

2009-08-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
t.piwowar
 On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
 I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player
 in the mobile device market.  Way too much competition coming
 down the pike.

 With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen
 for the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up.
 snip

Now it looks like places have switched WRT the phone markets.  In
the desktop/laptop markets, MS had most of the headaches.  In the
phone markets, it now looks like Apple has that role (the hack from
BlackHat with SMS messages taking over your phone).  Someone else
found a similiar vulnerability with WM phones, but it does seem
like the iPhone market has become a big target for the bad guys.

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[CGUYS] Turbo Tax help

2009-08-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
My wife and I are finally trying to do our 2008 taxes
(long aggravating tale of woe).  We also got married
last year and now we need help in getting Turbo Tax to
fill out the tax return (I have 401K contributions,
they don't show up on the tax return, etc.)  We
imported her information since we are using her address
as the mailing address.  The automated assistant seems
to be little more than worthless.  I'm thinking we
should go to a tax person to deal with this.  I don't
see a relevant newsgroup beyond the broad us.taxes
newsgroup.  Can anyone point in the right direction?

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Re: [CGUYS] Turbo Tax help

2009-08-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
b_s-wilk
 On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
 I'm thinking we should go to a tax person to deal
 with this.

 Yes you should. I found that fighting the software
 distracted me from other important tax issues, causing
 a mess. I filed and then had to hire a human to refile
 a correct form.

 We do our own taxes, small business and all. Tax software
 isn't particularly efficient, but having everything in a
 database/spreadsheet at the end is convenient. It often
 takes more time to use software or an accountant than to
 fill out forms yourself. Most of the work is gathering
 all of the pieces of paper, records, notes, numbers,
 statememts, forms. I use my own Excel spreadsheet, then
 sometimes TurboTax.

Yes, keeping track of all of those stinking little pieces of
paper drives me crazy.  Usually I just put all of them in a
folder and pull it out when it's time to do taxes.  This year,
I got smart, I gave them to my wife - she's the organized one
and _she_ lost them for awhile (most was found).

 Filling out the forms is easy once you gather the numbers.
 Not making careless mistakes is the best reason for using
 tax software or a pro. Turbo Tax is best, IMHO; didn't
 like TaxCut. IRS has the info you need about 401k,
 http://www.irs.gov/retirement/article/0,,id=119625,00.html.

I use Turbo Tax so the printing is clear, etc. and the right
numbers get entered into the appropriate boxes and catch
goofy mistakes.

 I usually start doing taxes by downloading all the
 publications and forms I need,
 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/, using
 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf and
 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p334.pdf as guides.

Mine is dead simple, Sweetie knows more about her return
and she doesn't want/need my help in getting information.

 I NEVER file online. We use snail mail with confirmation.

Same here, I tried it once and lost the fee with issues I
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Re: [CGUYS] Road runner cable access with a third party router

2009-08-06 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 Security isn't high on the list of concerns, cows out number
 people at least 5 to 1, the town does have a stop light and
 it works.   I wasn't really concerned with being safe as much
 as not breaking the Internet for our hosts.  The mom there
 is talking about getting a laptop/netbook eventually.

 Security when connected to the internet is always a concern.

I didn't say it wasn't a concern, I did say that security came
after not breaking things.  After I made sure the internet
still worked, _then_ I would worry the security issue.

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Re: [CGUYS] Road runner cable access with a third party router

2009-08-05 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 Does any of that make sense?  I understand that the local
 cable office does have a WAP version as well as a non-WAP
 version of the modem.

 One other approach when the cable company or other
 broadband ISP doesn't want to open up its firewall setup
 is to have a DMZ IP address which is assigned to your
 router.  Set up the router to do its normal IP filtering,
 NAT and SPI functions, and you're just as safe as if you
 had the router connected to a dumb modem.  This assumes
 of course that you use WPA2 with AES and a relatively
 long password/pre-shared-key.

Security isn't high on the list of concerns, cows out number
people at least 5 to 1, the town does have a stop light and
it works.   I wasn't really concerned with being safe as much
as not breaking the Internet for our hosts.  The mom there
is talking about getting a laptop/netbook eventually.

 Most ISPs will detail how to setup a DMZ IP address or
 range for folks like gamers.  Just remember to use the
 router and not your computer as the interface.

I haven't talked to the ISP, I might do that eventually.

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[CGUYS] Road runner cable access with a third party router

2009-08-03 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I was visiting my sister  brother in-law in NY this past
weekend for a baby shower (oh, the joys...).  They do
have cable (road runner).  My niece, aka the new mom, says
that as she understands it, if you disconnect the PC from
the cable/modem to try and insert a router/WAP, things get
screwed up.  She wasn't sure why or how, I tried to talk
to a sales droid at a Best Buy ~25 miles away (it's in the
wilds of NY) and she seemed pretty clueless about the
situation.  Since I had no desire to cause anybody any
problem, I was without email/newsgroup access for ~4 days...

Does any of that make sense?  I understand that the local
cable office does have a WAP version as well as a non-WAP
version of the modem.

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Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare

2009-07-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Talk about rationing.

 When I hear those commercials that rail against
 rationing, I wonder which insurance company paid
 for it, and if the CEO has the same coverage that
 all his employees are offered.

 I think the congress critters must be made to
 live under the same rules that they set for everyone.

I heard about one proposed amendment that would've put Congress
under the same plan as everybody else.  I'm pretty sure that was
laughed away...sad

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Re: [CGUYS] Bing FAILS on Big News

2009-07-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
t.piwowar
 I bet Mozart's contemporaries said the same things about him.

 I also bet that long after Bill Gates is forgotten, people
 will still be thrilled by MJ.

Could be

 BTW, without Googling it, who invented the transistor? the
 microprocessor? the 1st programming language?

First transistor was by a team headed by William Shockley at ATT,
Intel had the first microprocessor (depending on definition), the
first programming language is also based on definitions - in some
ways an assembler is a programming language (macro's, etc.)

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Re: [CGUYS] Bing FAILS on Big News

2009-07-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Robert Carroll
 Don't forget ALGOL.  Predecessor of Fortran.  Contemporary of
 Cobal.

Hmmm, I thought FORTRAN pre-dates COBOL which pre-dates ALGOL.
ALGOL was the predecessor to Simula.  Checking wikipedia says
that FORTRAN was from 1953, COBOL 1959.  Wikipedia says that
ALGOL is from 1958...

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Re: [CGUYS] Has Apple Crossed the Line?

2009-06-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Stephen Brownfield
 I didn't know there were so many B5 fans on the list.

 John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
 Great now I get hear all Toms posts with Londo's
 accent.

It is to late for pebbles in the stream to vote...

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Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Stampede?

2009-06-26 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
 Tom:
 There is a BIG difference between network connectivity
 (i.e., server connections) between Home and Business.

Absolutely, but more than a few businesses don't require
server connections, etc.

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Re: [CGUYS] Has Apple Crossed the Line?

2009-06-26 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 I know I'll regret asking...how do you link your
 made up political bogeymen to this?

 I was wondering the same after reading the linked
 article, since it doesn't even touch on ideology at
 all.  But, it has a simple explanation:

 Tom is green.  Anyone putting forth an idea that
 doesn't fit within his epistemological template is
 purple. (Babylon 5 fans will understand this analogy.)

Yeah, but who is going to grab the scarf from around your
(or Tom's) neck??

Yes, this relates to the story where the Drazi purple
and green fought - it's amusing in places...

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Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-22 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
One Man
 It's a deal killer.   It's an inappropriate use of a form
 of govt id which was intended for the SS admin, not the
 convenience of Sprint.  A private biz cannot require you
 to divulge your ssn.

My power company demanded my SSN to pay my bill!

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-13 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
mike
 Have no idea what you are so excited about.  I never said you
 could upgrade from 98 to w7...that was the point.  XP and
 OS X came out within months of each other, xp a few months
 after os x.  The big technology leap for apple was of course
 os 9 to OS X, for windows, the big leap is xp to vista..but

I think the move from Win98SE/WinME to WinNT/Win2K is closer to
OS9 - OSX.  If MS would've stuck to their original plan with
all of their improvements that got delayed/sidetracked (new fs,
etc.) then it would've been a bigger deal.  XP-Vista a big
pain at introduction, now a much improved security model.

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Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle

2009-06-12 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
b_s-wilk
 We went from getting around 20 stations to 2. We have a new

Well, you now almost have the same status I always have had.
I used to get (with rabbit ears) a bunch of snowy stations
from DC with one slightly better station (channel 4).  I
live in southern MD (LaPlata/Waldorf).

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
  Let's put this all into a certain perspective.  Market
 forces have made it abundantly clear that the Windows
 operating system and the computers that come supplied
 with that OS are absolutely superior in every way,
 shape and form.  The sales figures have made this an
 indisputable fact according to the marketplace, and
 the marketplace is the primary criteria by which all
 such things are determined in our capitalist system.
 End of argument?

 50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong.

 Look at it another way.  If this were a presidential
 election, what words would you use to describe the voting
 gap between 1st and 2nd place?  Don't tell me you still
 have McGovern and Mondale bumper stickers tucked away.

That's ridiculous!  Personal computers (small computers
designed to be owned/used by an individual) have been
around for what 25-30 years?  Microsoft has been in the
drivers seat for 20-25 of those years (since
DOS 3.something?).  MS acquired this dominance more through
shrewd business tactics (bundling and discounting DOS and
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 pain

2009-06-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Most vista drivers are supposed to work out of the box.  So
 far I only found one that did not, and it was HP which is
 notoriously slow in releasing updates.

A friend of mine at work ended up buying another XP system when
the scanner vendor wouldn't supply Vista drivers (and didn't
have plans to supply them, the machine was no longer being sold,
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right

2009-06-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Never been involved in retail marketing have you? Anything
 a company does is considered a revenue stream.

 Some companies make money on the front some make it on the
 back some make it every step of the way.
 marketing stuff snipped

 OSX has come out with how many versions over the past
 10 years?

Looks to be about 7 or 8 versions...

 MS has had only three.  XP, Vista and later this year
 Win 7.

(I'm a little confused now - there was Windows 3.0, Win98,
Windows NT, etc.)

 XP has had 3 SP and Vista has had 1.  Windows did not
 charge for any of the updates or service packs over the
 years.

Apple also comes out with Service Packs, MS does theirs on a
monthly basis with the occasional Oh! Crap! tossed in for
good measure.  Apple's patches aren't as frequent but they
cost the same as the ones from MS (they're free).

 If a person had purchased XP ,Vista (Home premium) and
 Win 7.  They might have spent as much money on OS as a
 person buying all the different versions of OSX*.* over
 the same time period.

It seems that if a person buys a Windows upgrade they
usually need to buy more horsepower to get performance.  Apple
seems to be able to deliver OS upgrades without requiring new
h/w purchases.  So, yes, people running Mac's can upgrade from
10.3 to 10.4 to 10.5 much easier than going from a 2005 era
Windows XP installation to Windows Vista installation, but
Windows 7 might be acceptable on the XP installation (reported
to have acceptable performance on a netbook).

 I would like to see Win 7 marketed just over the $100 mark to
 get it out there and into as many hands as it could possibly
 get into.  No matter what type of authentication service you
 use someone will crack it.  So market the crap out of it,
 price it at the sweet spot and sell the hell out of it.

Vista gave MS a bad reputation.  After all of these patches,
etc. it's probably okay, but the reputation lingers on.  A
good (read cheap) might remedy some of the reputation.

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Re: [CGUYS] Subject: Re: When I think know...

2009-06-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 That is not the song playing in my mind.  It is old
 Marshall Tucker stuff and Little Feet.  (My first
 room mate in college was a big fan of them)

I'm a classic rock guy as well

 When I remember the concerts I used to go too way
 back when and some of the bands I saw I just kind of
 shake my head and wonder what has become of time.

 I still want to see a TSO or Mannheim concert in my
 lifetime, but the closest they come is usually about
 3 hours away and it is on weekends which is undoable
 for me.

Do yourself a favor, skip the concert, buy the CD and
enjoy that.  I took my girlfriend (now wife) to see them
and was disappointed - they had a great light show, all
kinds of props, etc. big hair and they had an act.  I'm
not sure how much of their music was theirs and how much
was recorded.  There are (?were?) an East Coast tour and
simultaneously a West Coast tour.  I'm not sure which of
the two groups did the CD (or was it some of each).
They had a couple of songs that weren't on the CD, but it
wasn't worth the ticket price (IMHO).

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Re: [CGUYS] Mac or PC laptop?

2009-05-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa
 On May 28, 2009, at 10:27 PM, rileyca...@espsound.com wrote:
 Your PC software will not run on a Mac - PERIOD.  PC software will
 run on an Apple made computer if you have installed Windows on it
 but the Mac OS runs software written to run in the Mac operating
 system.

 This uninformed person has never heard of WINE.

Or Parallels/VMWare Fusion/Sun VirtualBox.

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Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$

2009-05-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 As you pointed out, testing used synthetic benchmarks.
 Vendors tend to code for these well-known benchmarks.
 We expect real world experience to be worse.

 Actually, the expectation is that real-world results will
 be just be different.  Synthetic benchmarks only measure
 what they were designed to measure.

 Let's just conveniently forget the hundreds of hands-on
 reviews that *all* indicated much better performance on
 the same hardware over Vista.  We found the one that
 says what you want it to say.

The only thing I've heard of definitively is that it doesn't
require as much in the line of resources (memory, graphics
performance, etc.)  System performance is still waiting for
Release Candidate experience.

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[CGUYS] Boardwatch magazine t-shirt

2009-05-03 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I've been doing some hourse cleanning/re-organizing and have
found stuff I forgot ever ordering.  For example a Boardwatch
poster and t-shirt with a picture of Bill Gates with a title
of BillGatus in the StarTrek Next Generation type.  The
poster and T-shirt still have the original box.  I'm trying
to find out if anyone wants any of this stuff or should I
use the t-shirt to wash  wax a car and recycle the carboard
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Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its
not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of
any other email way to get a hold of the government.  You
can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form.

 Spammers attack web forms too. They have bots that fill in
 forms with their messages and submit the forms.

 You may not need something a complicated/annoying as a
 CAPATCHA. Just have one form field that asks something
 that a spammer would not know.

As in performing some elementary math what is 3*5, what is
the capital of MD (if there is a form, capital of the state
where the addressee said they were from on their address)?
What other types of questions?

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Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?

2009-04-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't
 document the Windows interface so that WP could use it.  The
 document was very interesting.  It was things I had all along
 but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and
 document.

 It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several
 times first to Novell and then Corel.

I thought Windows showed up before the Novell  Corel, but the
sale(s) didn't help.

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Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?

2009-04-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
 It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several
 times first to Novell and then Corel.

 The big failure was that the folks at WordPerfect never
 figured out how to re-engineer their program for a GUI.
 They made lots of mistakes. Their menu structure was
 terrible. The tried to invent their own user interface
 rules instead of following the operating system's
 conventions. It was a flop.

I thought they tried to use a version of thier DOS interface
in the Windows world.  At the time, WP was the leader of the
word processing packages, they wanted to maintain the same
user I/F to make the transition easier.

 As much as I criticize MS for its user interface foibles,
 the errors made by WordPerfect Corp were far, far worse.

I heard (?somewhere?) the single application that sold Windows
to the masses was a give away called Solitaire.

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Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?

2009-04-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing
 software down people's throats is no way to win a
 popularity contest.

 I remember WordPerfect and WordStar being the dominant
 word processors, with Lotus and MS being real also rans.
 WordPerfect at the time was a much better choice for most
 folks who wanted a word processor.  Word became
 ubiquitous and now is popular, it didn't win because it
 was a better choice, it won because it was available and
 WP just couldn't ever quite compete in Windows for
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According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't
document the Windows interface so that WP could use it.  The
document was very interesting.  It was things I had all along
but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and
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Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...

2009-04-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
 Bill G. came last. It wasn't his hardware. The hardware was
 made by IBM.

 And the OS was written by Digital Research. Some say MS stole it.

Hmmm, no. As  I understand the story, IBM went to Digital
Research and the guy there blew off the meeting with IBM for
licensing CPM.  Next, IBM went to MS, they had a BASIC
interpreter for CPM.  Gates said Sure, we'll do an operating
system for you in (insert number here) months - they went to
Seattle Computer Products and bought QDOS (Quick and Dirty
Operating System) and modified that to run on IBM PC's.

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Re: [CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...

2009-04-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Oh, boy, here we go.
Who exactly says that, and why? MS licensed it, which to the
best of my knowledge isn't theft.
(Anyway, it was Seattle Computer Products, not DR.  DR's OS
was CP/M.)

 I'm sure MS has a division assigned to rewriting history and
 you have a shelf of their briefing books...

 Digital Research (Gary Kildall) was livid at the cloning of
 his OS (and a cheap clone at that). Up to this point he felt
 snip
 but seems to have remained bitter about this event.

 http://www.mackido.com/History/History_DrDos.html

 I caution anyone following this story to check the
 source of the information they are reading.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86-DOS

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[CGUYS] Getting Firefox extensions as non-admin to work

2009-04-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Does anyone have a clue on how to get Firefox to work
with extensions as a non-admin on a Mac?  As an admin,
they work great.  BTW, the extensions are noscript,
Forecast Fox, flashblock and a few others.

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Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]

2009-04-05 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
David K Watson
 One box has superior specs, better reviews, and higher customer
 satisfaction ratings. The other one is cheaper and sells more.

 Where do you get your figures?  I looked on amazon, and the
 Wii had better customer satisfaction ratings there than any of the
 Xbox models.  That also seems to be the general understanding
 on the tech sites I visit.

Aren't the Xbox's legendary for the red ring of death?

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Re: [CGUYS] Ipod Touch question

2009-04-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Here is what all I do on my smart phone.
 snip

This computer has been out of commission for the last week, I
currently have 748 messagesgroan

Nope this has nothing to do with the current discussion except
in the most general of ways.  I've been putting together the
box o'stuff/junk (as poromisde) and it's getting _heavy_.  More
specifically:
 3 250gb SATA drives of unknown status (they may/may not work)
 1 120gb IDE - Spinrite'd and wiped
 3(?4?) 80gb IDE - Spinrite'd and wiped
 1 30gb IDE - Spinrite'd and wiped
 2 15gb IDE - 1 has been Spinrite'd and wiped, the other will
   be when I get back home
 1 DVD reader/writer - gee, it wouldn't work with Windows98 SE
   who would've guessedg
 1 tape drive (Hornet? TR4?) - worked last time it was used,
   the tapes are long gone

Some of the drives are mounted in trays so they can be removed
easier as in swapping OS's - yeah, I didn't do that much.  I
also have keys that will be accompanying the drives.  I may
take the drives out of the trays and see if they guys that got
most/all of the other racks if they want the trays, keys and
last rack.

I also intend to pack the video card and floppy drive from the
system that is doing the wiping along with mice, etc.  When I
was fooling with the individual pieces, they don't weigh much,
but put them together...  I'm going to have to see how much
this will cost to ship before a decision gets made.  I hope
you understand.

This is in addition to the Windows XP license (I still haven't
found two, only one) that I have along with various books, etc.
There's also a cordless phone that needs a battery (I didn't
see one at Best Buy), there's cell phone cases (my current one)
that interfere with it working for me, there's some MP3 stuff
(one player working missing the battery cover, a case for a
Sansa something, an offer to download some music for the Sansa
since I have a Mac, it was of little use to me, I had hoped the
Sansa would be a viable alternative to an iPod - it wasn't,
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Re: [CGUYS] Ipod Touch question

2009-04-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Wayne Dernoncourt
 Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Here is what all I do on my smart phone.
  snip

 This computer has been out of commission for the last week, I
 currently have 748 messagesgroan

That wasn't supposed to go to the list!!!arggghh

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Re: [CGUYS] Digital audio recorder

2009-03-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
David Turk
 We have a group that will be doing oral histories,  then
 giving us the files.  We'd prefer this stay all-digital,
 so we don't have to do the conversion from cassette tape.
 Can someone recommend a device?  Also, the ones I've been
 looking at can save files as both WAV  MP3.  Would there
 be a preferred format?  These will be voice recordings
 only, no music.
 tia.

One of the podcasts I listen to is by www.insightcruises.com
Last December(??) there was a series 3 podcasts (actually
one session that was split into three pieces) and the speaker
talks about the equipment that is used and how to produce and
make the podcast ready for release (how to make it available
for itunes, podcatcher, etc.  One of the things the speaker
talked about was the equipment that worked well for that
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Re: [CGUYS] Digital audio recorder

2009-03-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
David Turk
 The organization will be conducting the interviews on their
 own, without any assistance from us, aside from telling them
 what device  file format we would like them to use.
 Hopefully, editing will be kept to a minimum.
 Thanks for the suggestion.

I should've read this before my reply...

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Re: [CGUYS] What? Me Worry? - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! -- OT! POLITICS! or something like it

2009-02-18 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 Ok, so you refute some of my possibilities.  Do you
 have any idea why we don't have them?  If it is true
 that customers want them or it is recognized that
 they would want them, and their are no impediments in
 law to selling them then surely there are enough
 salesmen out their to figure it out and sell them.

 I agree with you in principle, but I think that the
 conservative and risk-averse monoculture within US
 auto companies is the largest factor at work.  As
 long as gas was cheap, they convinced themselves
 that Americans would never buy small, but well
 designed cars from Europe, even though the Japanese
 were eating their lunch with smaller cars.
  snip

I have to agree with you about the monoculture part.
How long has VW, Toyota, Datsun/Nissan  Honda been
selling cars in the US?  How long have import sales
gone up and domestic sales down?  Have often were
those two trends reversed?  Shouldn't that say
something about the success of the Detroit mindset?

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Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
You probably need a fair number of amps to drive
speakers to a reasonable volume.

 I have a small portable radio that does more than enough.
snip

Also, I don't know much specific about Coby mp3 players,
but when I've seen that brand name on line, it seems to
me it has usually been associated with what I would
suspect are cheap products (way too much advertised
capability, given the price).

 Review at Amazon gave it 4 out of 5 stars. I was not
 expecting iPod quality, but I got far, far less.

I'm wondering if those were paid reviews written by
someone attached to Coby (like the Belkin reviews).
Make sure you put in a review so that other people don't
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Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake

2009-02-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
BTW, I saw and bought a small radio with an adjustable iPod
charger/plug for about $30 at Walgreen's.  It doesn't
sound great, but it's okay for podcasts.  It can also take
some number of batteries for portable use (it's about 6-8
wide, a couple of inches deep and about 6 tall).

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Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Matthew Taylor
 You can not ignore what is not there.

 On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:

 Ding!  You win the prize for the obvious - the bills
 threatened the availability of abortion without
 consequences and had to be opposed - even if this
 meant tolerating infanticide

 Why are you ignoring the fact that this infanticide
 was already illegal?

Infanticide is legal?  Wouldn't that come under the homicide
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Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons
 Peace is possible the day the Palestinian people want to
 live in peace.  To date the majority has not so chosen.
 I do not support everything Israel does or has done, but
 until all their neighbors, including the Palestinians,
 accept its right to exist and live in peace, the war those
 neighbors declared continues to their detriment.  As the
 best example of a functioning representative republic in
 the region we should aid them as we can.

 It's incredible you dare make this claim.  Palestinians
 aren't occupying and controlling access to Israel, nor do
 they limit the ability of Israelis to travel.  I suggest
 Israel no more desires peace than you claim the
 Palestinians do.  It's especially apparent if you judge
 base on actions.

(I'm behind on email, out of touch for a week with no email...)

But they do get rockets, mortars and explosives into Gaza and
the West Bank along with people who will kill themselves
with the explosives (hmmm, that hasn't happened recently has
it, at least I haven't seen it in the news).  The focus of the
Israeli's seems to be to stop the flow of weapons.  They are
talking about giving land up, there are some factions (the
settlers) that don't buy it.

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Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
John Emmerling
 Hamas was launching rockets as recently a week ago (I won't
 vouch for the reliability of this NewsDaily site, so please
 corroborate for yourself):

I was talking about the suicide bombers.

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Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Wayne Dernoncourt

 But they do get rockets, mortars and explosives into Gaza and
 the West Bank along with people who will kill themselves
 with the explosives (hmmm, that hasn't happened recently has
 it, at least I haven't seen it in the news).  The focus of the
 Israeli's seems to be to stop the flow of weapons.  They are
 talking about giving land up, there are some factions (the
 settlers) that don't buy it.

Thinking about this a little more, it seems that the Israeli
military/police are reluctant to evict the settlers from the
homes that are in the disputed zones.  Disputed in that Israel
and the Palestinians have both said it's Palestinians and the
settlers that say it's the settlers.  It seems that one way to
build trust would be to have a team of Israeli soldiers
escort Palestinian police to evict the settlers.  The role of
the Israeli's is to make sure that Palestinians don't go
overboard in evicting  I'm sure that there is lots wrong
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Re: [CGUYS] A Mac user's take on the Windows 7 user interface

2009-01-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
*Big* difference. One may not agree with the conclusions, but at least
there are no incendiary remarks.

 You don't know incendiary. You want to see incendiary, read this...

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10148896-27.html

 MSN Mobile Music: Worst idea ever?

 Now here's a recipe for success: Take a brand that your
 parent company's been on the verge of abandoning for the
 last four years. Slap it on a new music download store
 for mobile phones. Encrust all the tracks with DRM, even
 though the rest of the music download industry is finally
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I believe this is an example of something called sarcasm.

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Re: [CGUYS] Win 7: A Clear-Eyed Review

2009-01-24 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 You cut off the rest of my sentence so I would appear
 unreasonable.
 snip

 It's very, very clear: negative reviews are clear-eyed,
 even-handed, and accurate. Positive reviews are
 fawning, suspicious, and written by M$'s minions.
 I get it.

cue Fox news...

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Re: [CGUYS] Win 7: A Clear-Eyed Review

2009-01-23 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Okay, Tom, it's time to take off the Apple-colored
glasses. . .  Post a link to the ad that people are
saying they're just a generic PC.

 I saw it on microsoft.com and later on network TV.
 There was a good amount of press about how it was
 replacing the terrible Seinfeld ads.  Have you
 erased that from your brain? Do you remember the
 sorry Gates-Seinfeld ads?

What news shows ran stories about the MS ads?  Did they
compare the MS ads to the Mac-PC ads?  I thought the
MS ads were the target of lots of criticism.  The info
I get from Leo Laporte says that Windows Vista wasn't
bad in itself, the user experience was bad because of
some stupid design decisions (supposedly they made parts
(the UAC??) of it deliberately annoying, I no longer
remember the reasoning), but it was better on security,
etc.  The part that everyone remembered though was the
really annoying part and skipped everything else that
was really good (from a security standpoint).

One set of rumors has Win7 running on a netbook - time
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-22 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
That's why I prefer to use a limited user for everything on a
regular basis, it limits my exposure.  (I picked up this habit
years ago when I was a system manager for a PDP  VAX systems.

 That is correct, except when installing software or making
 changes to the system. That is what the admin account is for.

And that is what I was trying to do - install the flight
simulator...  Except that it's not a general app, it's special.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-22 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
And that is what I was trying to do - install the flight
simulator...  Except that it's not a general app, it's special.

 The idea of general app vs. special app is totally foreign
 to me. All apps can do potentially harmful things to a computer
 so I worry about all apps. If there are no safeguards about any
 random app running I am concerned.

I'm not sure how else to describe the application.  The flight
sim (X-plane) needs to read/write the prefs (different from Mac OSX
prefs, this is the starting location, aircraft, etc.)  Standard
trouble shooting practice is to delete the prefs directory (file?).

 A while back Flash was able to update itself without getting
 intercepted by OS X. I was very unhappy about that and am
 glad this is no longer the case. We really do need to have
 the OS able to protect itself.

I'd be uneasy with that.  I have little snitch running in an
attempt to prevent that kind of behavior.

 One reason I like hardware applicances is because all their
 code is in firmware. While it can be updated, it is a special
 process. It sometimes even requires that hardware buttons get
 pressed a certain way, so the hardware protects the firmware.

Yes

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-21 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
 That's in the documentation. They don't directly say not
 to do it. They do describe why you will be sorry if you do it.

That's why I prefer to use a limited user for everything on a
regular basis, it limits my exposure.  (I picked up this habit
years ago when I was a system manager for a PDP  VAX systems.

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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Mail: Redirect vs. Forward

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 Huh, Jeff, WTF?

 Mark--It's very simple.

 Tom operates under the RDF'd delusion that Apple is some
 kind of warm-hearted, sweet-little-aunt-who-bakes-you-pies
 company that only behaves badly when backed into a corner

I wonder if the Tom/Jeff pair are different personalities in
the same body?  They both denigrate the other and proclaim
their's is the correct side.  Both companies are using methods
to make their company grow.  It's not like Microsoft isn't
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to
use Active X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to
ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't say it.

 Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one
 step further to say that any company who can't figure out
 how to do a job using open standards is advertising that
 they have very poor engineering skills. Hence I would
 expect to be otherwise not too hot.

 I believe subsequent posts cleared Garmin of this offense,
 but raised a new one. To register you had to be running an
 administrative account.  That is not quite as bad as
 requiring IE, but certainly does not establish their
 engineering chops. So instead of 0 stars they get 2 stars.

Can IWork or iLife be installed as a limited user?  Yes, I
installed the Garmin program as admin and then switched to
the limited user to do the actual registration.

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Re: [CGUYS] yardsticks Re:Tandoori Chicken

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jordan
 Tandoori Chicken (19+ / 0-)

 1 Chicken, approximately 2 pounds (without skin),
 cut in serving sizes.

 Ingredients for marinade:
 3 tbsp yogurt + 1 tbsp vinegar
 1 tsp garam masala --- oh good, alcohol should help
   of course, it must be sampled to ensure quality
 1 cup portland cement --- portland cement??
   a, ups the crunch factor!g

 1/2 tsp corriander powder
 1/2 tsp cumin powder
 1/2 tsp ginger powder
 1/2 tsp garlic powder
 Salt  Red Pepper to taste
 Pinch of orange edible color powder

 Other Ingredients:
 1/4 cup oil to brush
 1/2 lemon
 1/2 tsp cumin powder
 1 onion sliced

 Mix all ingredients for the marinade and add chicken to it.Let marinade
 set for two hours.  On the barbecue grill, grilllike any other chicken.
 Brush chicken with oil 2-3 times while cooking.  To cook in conventional
 oven, preheat to 375  and bake chicken in shallow dish for 25-30 minutes
 till done.  Discard
 any excess water and brush chicken 2-3 times while baking.

 To serve, arrange chicken pieces on a serving platter.  Arrange sliced
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Can IWork or iLife be installed as a limited user?  Yes, I
installed the Garmin program as admin and then switched to
the limited user to do the actual registration.

 No application can be installed by a non-admin user. That
 is as it should be.

Some programs can be installed and used as a non-admin,
x-plane for example.  It isn't a general purpose
application like word processing, etc.  To run, it has to
open files for read/write from where it was installed.
Installing as admin means that is who has to run it.
Installing it as a limited user lets me use it as
non-admin user (that was my goal).

 So is the latest version of the story that you were
 correctly blocked from installing software and that lead
 to your not being able to register? After you installed
 the software with proper admin rights you were able to
 register from a standard account?

The latest version?  There things I know now that I didn't
before changing the results of what I get.

 If that is the case there is no reason to castigate
 Garmin. Maybe you should be reading the Little Mac Book?

I expect to be learning things my entire life.  I've never
seen the Little Mac Book.  Many things were obvious in use,
other things not so obvious.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Some programs can be installed and used as a non-admin,
x-plane for example.  It isn't a general purpose
application like word processing, etc.  To run, it has to
open files for read/write from where it was installed.

 They tell you to not install it into the Applications
 folder. Doing that would cause a password prompt (unless
 your were user 500 or 501).

Actually, I don't remember ever getting a password prompt,
just an error dialog about not being able to write to a file.
I also don't remember ever being told not to install it as
an application.

 Looks like you give it a directory of its own and it builds
 everything it needs in there. This would circumvent the OS's
 password prompt. At most you would get a prompt that you are
 running something that was downloaded. You can say yes to
 that without entering a password. I for one would prefer that
 the OS did require a password for this.

I do get the dialog about Downloaded from the internet...

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-19 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
katan
 Really? Install our program or run Active X to register the
 product?  That doesn't sound like the greatest customer
 service. I guess there's always ye olde tried-and-true
 mail-in card?

I didn't see one.  I'm guessing they get a lot of configuration
information from the Active-X control/Mac app.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-18 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
David Newhall
 On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:35 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic
 digest system wrote:

 Date:Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:05:21 -0500
 From:Wayne Dernoncourt way...@panix.com
 Subject: Windows  Active X

 I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October.  I've been
 trying to register it on the Garmin site for the last
 couple of weeks.  I say trying because so far I've
 been failing.  They don't really support the Mac so
 I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP computer.
 The Windows version uses Active X for the registration
 process.  For some reason, Active X is being prevented
 from running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing
 still worked.  I don't know how to figure out where to
 go from here.

 Garmin is one of the few GPS companies that provides
 decent Mac support. I've registered two on my Mac and
 love the new tool that sends google map coordinates to
 the Favorites folder on the device right from Google
 Maps.

Ahhh, I normally use this Mac as a limited user, everything
I do is as a limited user.  Installing the Garmin s/w didn't
do much that way.  I tried doing this as a the admin and
had lots more success.  It's been registered!  Thanks much.

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[CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October.  I've been trying to
register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks.  I
say trying because so far I've been failing.  They don't really
support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP
computer.  The Windows version uses Active X for the registration
process.  For some reason, Active X is being prevented from
running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked.  I
don't know how to figure out where to go from here.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Active X

2009-01-17 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tony B
 Wild first guess - you _are_ using IE? ActiveX only works
 in IE. And there should be a blocking notice you'll have
 to manually approve. Install IE7 (if applicable) and try
 again.

Tom seemed to indicate lack of Mac support seemed to be a
reason to not consider Garmin.  None of the manufacturers
seem to go out of there way to support the Mac.  Very sad.

This was true with both Firefox and IE.  First I used Firefox
and then realized it could be an IE thing.  I thought I looked
at the settings, I didn't see anything to allow/disallow the
Active X control.  I'll take another look and maybe re-install
IE.

Thanks for the link to test Active X, Garmin also has a link
to test their application with the 'puter setup.

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Re: [CGUYS] Family Project

2009-01-15 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Yes, we know Tom, you hate windows.  We know, you've
flogged it to DEATH...we all know.  It's not a secret.
Everyone agrees with you now, you've beaten everyone
to your side.  Windows is horrid and terrible and a
scourge.

 I use Windows all the time. Probably half the time most
 days.

 Why is it okay for me to be pissy about Apple's problems,
 but blasphemy to write similar things about MS?

It's how much you heap on MS versus how much you heap on
Apple.  This doesn't mention the level of the vitriol you
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 Public Beta: 1st Major Blooper

2009-01-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
 Tom was trying to make this into a problem with
 Windows 7, which it clearly is not.

 You keep slicing and dicing every MS problem to
 find any way you can to put the responsibility on
 somebody else.

 Oh? What somebody else did I try to put the problem
 on?

 I don't know. You were very vague on that. That's one of my
 problems with your defense of MS. Your tack that nobody is
 responsible for anything.

 I prefer to work with vendors that take responsibility.

I can no longer keep track of who the players are...  What,
if anything, do the activation keys do for the Windows 7 beta?
I am surprised that if they were needed that the MS servers
couldn't meet the demand.  It's not like they've never had a
big release before.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 Public Beta: 1st Major Blooper

2009-01-11 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Chris Dunford
 Wayne, Tom appears to have confused two different events.
 There was a technical glitch of some kind, not related to
 demand, in delivering the activation keys. Subsequently
 MS decided that it was going to need more hardware to
 handle the volume of Win7 downloads, so it added more. But
 these were two separate events.

I'm a little surprised by that, given the black eye that
MS got from Vista, I thought they would've had a couple of
dozen dry runs to make sure that _no_ one had issues in
trying the beta.  It wasn't a big deal, just a We don't
need this crap

 To answer your first question, the activation key simply
 allows you to use the beta for more than 30 days.

As I understand it the full release is supposed to be
sometime in late summer (according to various and sundry
tech news sources), correct and they only plan to have one
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Re: [CGUYS] Zunepocalypse

2009-01-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
OK, MP3 players have the same fail-safe requirements
as 747s. My bad. Don't know what I could've been thinking.

 I did not ever use the word failsafe. You are once again
 trying to drag the discussion to a nutty place.

 Previously you tried to sell the idea that because it was
 not possible to test _everything_ then it was okay to be
 slovenly and not conduct diligent testing and quality
 control.

I think the blame is being placed incorrectly.  It seems that
the code in question was part of a library licensed/purchased
by MS to develop the Zune?  That library functionality didn't
have enough unit tests to test for correct functionality.  I
don't see any reason to believe that MS should conduct
additional unit tests on a purchased library.  This is poor
code QA from the original developer, not MS.

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Re: [CGUYS] PC and MAC interchanges

2008-12-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall
 Often if you go the manufactures web site you can
 download drivers for the sticks.

 98SE was the only one to support USB.

I know, if you worked hard enough, you _might_ get them
to work work with later service packs of WinNT.

 My suggestion is this (Suggestion) look up a few of the
 major manufacturers and see which ones support 98SE.
 Buy one of theirs and download the driver and see if it
 works.

 I have used up to 1 GB size of these sticks with great
 success.  Otherwise if it must be smaller look around on
 ebay.  Someone must be selling a few of these dirt cheap
 (even compgeeks might have them) with the price of solid
 state memory coming down they just get cheaper and cheaper.

What brand have you used with success?  The thought of
going to lots of different websites looking through that
stuff...shudder  I know that even if I can find one that
you have used successfully, I may not be successful.

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Re: [CGUYS] PC and MAC interchanges

2008-12-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Michael Fernando
 To copy stuff from an old Win98SE disk ...

  I have used up to 1 GB size of these sticks with great
  success.  Otherwise if it must be smaller look around on
  ebay.  Someone must be selling a few of these dirt cheap
  (even compgeeks might have them) with the price of solid
  state memory coming down they just get cheaper and cheaper.

 How about a different approach?  Buy/borrow an external
 USB disk enclosure that takes IDE disks.  Transfer your Win98SE
 disk into that.  Connect it to your new system which has better
 USB support.  Copy the files over to the new system.

Yeah, that might work!

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Re: [CGUYS] PC and MAC interchanges

2008-12-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Michael Wosnick
 Hi all,

 I am posting this with great reluctance. While I am truly
 wanting legitimate information, I know I am risking a lot
 of posturing in the PC vs. Mac, MS vs. the world camps,
 etc and would prefer to just get the straight info
 without all the politics, posturing, name-calling etc.

It gets tiring after a while doesn't it, but the participants
never seem to tire...

 I have been a dedicated PC user since they came out. So has
 my wife. Both of our workplaces are fully and 100% PC and
 it is imperative that we are able to connect from home
 (VPNs etc) and more importantly to have our work products at
 home be fully compatible with the products that are coming
 out of the hundreds of PCs that inhabit our professional
 careers and workplaces.  And so our desktops and laptops at
 home are all PC and windows-based (some Vista, some XP pro).

I had a Win98SE system that I used for years.  A guy at work
gave me a dead Mac notebook (13 Titanium with dead hard
drive), I replaced it and got everything working again and
finally upgraded it when the optical drive croaked with a
MacBook Pro.  So a _lot_ of the recent stuff was on the Mac
laptop, more old/archival stuff is on the Win98SE system.  I
now want to pull off the old stuff from the Win98SE system
and ditch it.  There's about 2GB worth of stuff that may need
to be kept.  I divided that up into 625-700MB directories and
the plan was to burn this stuff to CD's, make sure those are
readable and then nuke the drive.  Win98SE can start Roxio
Easy CD Creator, but when I hit burn, I'm told incompatible
media... (it's at home, I'm not)

Are there different types of CD media (from Staples) out there?
Maybe a session with the Genius bar would help.

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Re: [CGUYS] PC and MAC interchanges

2008-12-28 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Jeff Wright
 There's about 2GB worth of stuff that may need
 to be kept.  I divided that up into 625-700MB directories and
 the plan was to burn this stuff to CD's, make sure those are
 readable and then nuke the drive.  Win98SE can start Roxio
 Easy CD Creator, but when I hit burn, I'm told incompatible
 media... (it's at home, I'm not)

 Move it all to a USB thumb drive (or hard drive) and then
 copy it to the Macbook.  Win98 supports USB, tho' it will
 only be v. 1.1...s-l-o-o-o-o-w.

 Any decent USB drive should have 98 drivers ready to install.

Ahhh, yes, Any decent USB drive..., this is a PNY 4GB stick.
Apparently according to the PNY website, they only support
the 128MB/256MB sticks.  I used to use a 64MB/128MB stick and
when it broke, the system didn't seem to want to recognize any
other sticks (PNY, same size, etc. - it's been years).

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Re: [CGUYS] parallels 4.0

2008-12-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
William McCarthy
 Having only an anecdote, my own experience, to offer, I
 would suggest that she wait. My own (attempted) upgrade
 from 3 to 4 has been terrible. Before version 4, I had
 been very happy with Parallels.
 snip

I wish I would read this before last weekend when I ordered
the upgrade...

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Re: [CGUYS] Time Machine

2008-12-06 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Tom didn't mention that a firewire connection is best
between the computer and the external hard drive.

 Sadly, Apple is walking away from FireWire. Their newest
 laptops omit it.

 Although FireWire continues to have many advantages over
 USB2, USB2 is just good enough to get by. FireWire is
 another great technology destroyed by our WFB's race to
 the bottom.

Yes, Firewire is great.  But I think you went a little far with
the previous sentence, instead of USB2 is just good enough to
get by, I think that should read USB2 is good enough.  How
much does it cost a manufacturer for Firewire 400/800 versus
USB 2?

 So if you are buying new drives make sure that USB2 is
 included. It costs a bit more, but everything I have been
 buying these last couple of years has both FireWire and
 USB2.

Firewire seems to be getting rare.

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Re: [CGUYS] Lie Online, Go to Jail

2008-12-02 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
db
 Yes,  and a good thing too that it was determined to
 be a crime.

 Just because the internet is a new frontier does not
 mean crime and injustice isn't perpetrated by its use.

 To the contrary.  The internet is just a new medium
 for human beings to use for age old purposes
 (information, communication, business etc.) and
 sometimes unfortunately in age old abusive or unfair
 ways (persecution, fraud, theft, ..)
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Maybe part of the sentence is the prohibition of the use
of any on-line electronic device (see Kevin Mitnick)

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Re: [CGUYS] Reviewer Bias [Was: Windows 7]

2008-11-25 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
But what I get tired of, is the one sided biases that some
folks show when they review stuff.

I recently watched a review of the Blackberry Storm done by
(Get this) two Iphone users.  Built in bias!  Pick
someone who does not use either phone and have them compare
and see what they like.  That is a fair comparison.

 I would prefer to read reviews by people who know what they
 are writing about. The iPhone created a new category of
 mobile phone and the rest of the industry is now scrambling
 to match it. Someone who uses the phone that sets the
 standard is going to be in a good position to write an
 intelligent review. I fully understand why MS would prefer to
 snip

You should try listening to some of the podcasts on twit.tv.
Leo LaPorte does gobs of tech related podcasts.  The techguy
podcast is a call-in show trying to help computer users out.
A pretty normal question is What kind of phone should I buy?
Hmmm, does that format sound familiar?

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Re: [CGUYS] MS Herding the Sheeple [Was: Windows 7]

2008-11-25 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
And of course, Herr Doctor himself.  Tom has on many
more than one occasion urged list members to dump their
ISP provided email and move to the cloud via Gmail or
the like.  An idea with which I agree with whole-heartedly.

 A feeble attempt to change the subject. Nothing has been
 posted in opposition to cloud computing or even MS's
 attempt to join the parade.

 My issue is solely with MS's tactic of herding its sheeple
 to its web properties by removing popular parts of Windows.

I think Windows 7 is an attempt to get better performance from
peoples computers.  The big problem that Vista had was that it
needed so much computer.  Lot's of systems were sold as Vista
Ready when the only version of Vista that would run was the
most basic version and they didn't expect anyone to actually
use that one.  The modular approach lets people pick and choose
what is actually installed.  How this works should be
interesting to watch.

I understand (listening to Paul Thurrott) that the guy in charge
of Vista development at MS uses a netbook on a daily basis and
expects to use that for Windows 7.  BTW, Paul T. uses a Macbook
Pro w/boot manager for his laptop, he started out using an
Amiga and switched sometime after Windows 3.1(??).

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Re: [CGUYS] Glitter [Was: Setting the default browser]

2008-11-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
Things like this are improvements that MS should be making
to the Windows OS, but all that seems to happen is the
addition of what I would call glitter, not functionality

 That is what happens when engineers try to copy a successful
 competitor's product and they don't fundamentally understand
 the reasons for the other product's success. They copy the
 wrong things. The useless glitter.

Okay...

 For example, when the not-so-successful engineers from Next
 tried to write the successor to OS 9 they missed so much of
 what made the Mac great. It took years of screaming by their
 customers to get important missed features put back and even
 today, 6 versions into OS X, there are still important
 features that were left behind. The arrogant Nexties could
 not get their brains around the concept that their ideas
 were not as good as the ideas that were already there.
 FTFF is still a sore point with many long-time Apple
 customers.

What important features aren't present?  When was the last
important brought forward?  Are kind of things are these
missing features (UI (appearance, etc.), gadgets/mini-apps,
system functionality (back-up), the list goes on)?

Hmmm, for those of us who are not cognoscenti, what is FTFF?

 I'm glad to see Windows users owning up to their useless
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