[expert] rsync-plus now available.
The troels team is very pleased indeed to announce the availability of rsync-plus, a new fast Mandrake downloader (English only) - see the sig below for the URL. You may now: Specify different exclude files for each download tree, Specify additional options to rsync. --delete is suggested for all tree downloads, and nothing for iso9660 CD image downloads. Run a number of rsync-plus downloads concurrently providing the destinations do not overlap (Caution: overlap not checked for, and the consequences are catastrophic if --delete is used!). Running a number of downloads concurrently makes sense when the source of network constriction is distant from you, so that a number of independent streams, possibly using different network paths, may be established, and you have enough incoming bandwidth. Download of the 9.2 trees is provided for when they become available. Fully supported by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Questions and suggestions welcome. Have fun! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fast Mandrake Downloder - New Release!
The troels team is very pleased indeed to announce the availability of a new fast Mandrake downloader (English only) - see sig below for the URL. You may now: Specify different exclude files for each download tree, Specify additional options to rsync. --delete is suggested for all tree downloads, and nothing for iso9660 CD image downloads. Run a number of downloads concurrently providing the destinations do not overlap (Caution: overlap not checked for!). Running a number of downloads concurrently makes sense when the source of network constriction is distant from you, so that a number of independent streams may be established. Download of the 9.2 trees is provided for when they become available. Fully supported by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Questions and suggestions welcome. Have fun! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT - for shell mongers: how _not_ to list a file
Use rsync.
Udo Rader wrote:
hi,
I have a directory that contains several hundred files and I want to
copy them all except _one_ file.
This sounds so easy yet still I am stuck or blind or stupid. Is there no
not operator in bash?
If it were, some construct like the thing below could then list all files
in /opt/too_many_files except no_not_this_one:
% ls -l /opt/too_many_files/*{!no_not_this_one}
Yes, I know this doesn't work, but is there any other efficient way to do
this in bash?
happy hacking
udo
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Re: [expert] OT - for shell mongers: how _not_ to list a file
Udo Rader wrote: Am Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:49:32 + schrieb Ron Stodden: Use rsync. *lol*, use it for rsync, use it for copy, use it for making coffee, use it for everything ;-) sounds like a bit of overhead to me :-) udo No, in fact it is usually faster and less overhead than any other method, especially if a file of the same name already exists on the destination, which is often the case, since updating is always the purpose except for the first time. Then rsync just uses a clever algorithm to move across only the detected differences. People's first reaction to rsync is often Aha!This is what ftp always should have been!!! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Perl question - include?
Thanks, Frankie,
But I am only trying to maintain a perl program
written by someone else, and as readers of this newsgroup will know I
strongly deprecate such unplanned non-integrated jack-in-the-box,
unsafe languages as perl in favout of such beuatiful creations as, say,
gprolog for Linux or Windows or Visual Prolog for Windows. Languages
with inbuilt AI for me!
Yes, I should rewrite the troels.rsync programs,
but lack present motivation to get started g hint, hint,
hint.
[Apologies to Anne for thr HTML}.
Frankie wrote:
Yes,
Nowdays, I give all my external files their own
package namespace.
For my config files, I put a sub in it.. a sub
contains all the config variables, and returns all the config values,
which I assign to the variables in the main program.
Ie (in the mainscript file body):
#!/use/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use config_package;
my ($var1, $var2, $var3, $var4, $etc) =
config_package::config_sub();
That way the scope is whatever you want it to be..
For that matter, you could pull the lot into a scoped
hash and use them as you need them.
As an added benefit, its very mod_perl friendly.
regards
Franki
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron
Stodden
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 7:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Perl question - include?
Frankie wrote:
try:
require filename.pl;
rgds
Franki
That clue gave the solution.
But:
1. Syntax is
require ("filename");
2. Unfortunately, my $whatever definitions do not survive
transition into the required (included) file.
In my case that was easily overcome by shifting those definitions
into the required file, which means they probably don't survive
transition back into the main program, which is in my case, rather
good (the reduced scope is safer).
Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you
perl enthusiasts:
How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file
at some point in a perl source file?
No, "include" doesn't work.
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Re: [expert] I don't know how to head this
Anne, If any message submitted to sympa contains any of the magic mailing list commands like submit cancel, remove, it will be dropped. Anne Wilson wrote: because sympa appears to bounce my efforts to raise the problem. I am posting messages to the lists that never get through. On the 15th I posted 3 to the expert list and only one got through. On the 14th 1 out of 4 appeared (and this is embarrassing because it looks as though you can't be bothered to answer those who try to help you). On the 17th I posted a message to the list headed 'What the ...' raising the problem, but sympa bounced it, saying that it appeared to contain commands. In the bounce message there is an invitation to reply to sympa-request if you are not satisfied. I did that, but I've heard nothing and the message was not released to the list. This week, Tuesday was ok. Wednesday, all my messages to expert got through, but only 6/8 to newbie. On Thursday 11/12 to expert got through and 1/4 to newbie. Has anyone any idea what is going on, and what, if anything, I can do about it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you perl enthusiasts: How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file at some point in a perl source file? No, include doesn't work. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Perl question - include?
Frankie wrote:
try:
require filename.pl;
rgds
Franki
That clue gave the solution.
But:
1. Syntax is
require ("filename");
2. Unfortunately, my $whatever definitions do not survive transition
into the required (included) file.
In my case that was easily overcome by shifting those definitions into
the required file, which means they probably don't survive transition
back into the main program, which is in my case, rather good (the
reduced scope is safer).
Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Stodden
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 2:45 PM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Perl question - include?
I've searched the perl man pages fruitlessly, so let me ask of all you
perl enthusiasts:
How do you do such a simple thing as to include another perl source file
at some point in a perl source file?
No, "include" doesn't work.
--
Ron. [Melbourne, Australia]
"If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come"
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Re: [expert] Making Space - I'm back
Joerg Mertin wrote: Just remember - it make no difference where you move a partition's content under Linux. The only problem that could show up is with Lilo/Grub - but if you adapt fstab accordingly, and the directories exist - it works. If by mistake you delete the partition table - and had a printout of fdisk -l /dev/hdx for the start/end points - the last time it worked - you can recover the data without a problem. That's why I never do backups... I do as Linus said a long time ago: Backups are for cowards. Post it to the Internet - and the Net will back it up for you A word of warning here ... Any procedure that changes the start or end sector of a bootable partition will render the partition unbootable. So you must firstly have a floppy boot (mkbootdisk) for that partition and kernel version.After moving the partition on the same drive do a boot from this floppy and rerun lilo or grub to fix it Any action that causes a bootable partition to be renumbered will render the partition unbootable. The only fix is to add dummy partitions or remove or shift partitions so that the original partition number is restored. Any action that causes a bootable partition to be shifted to another drive will render the new partition unbootable. Copy the partition, don't move it! You must have a floppy boot (mkbootdisk) for the new partition and kernel version.This is not easy to create - use chroot mkbootdisk from the original working Linux partition. Do a boot from this floppy and rerun lilo or grub to fix it. Only now may the original partition be deleted. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Click all ye faithful! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] system test
Yes, fully working for me - about 100 messages a day. Check your message filters - are you sending expert messages to trash? James Sparenberg wrote: Is this list working? if so... people are awfully quiet.. or no one wants to talk to me *sniff* --- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: You should be able to install from your dvd assuming it is bootable. The problem he is experiencing is with an install from a hard drive (ie. not using ISOs or CDs). No. Same problem occurs with CDs made by 9.1 MakeCD from my 9.1 tree. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 6:36 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. Thanks for that Ron CDs made OK, but CD installer baulks at the disk/scsi dialog and loop between dialogs with no exit. Message -'no device on which to create filesystems'. Seems to me it does not recognise any IDE disk channels. 9.0 recognises them all. Show stopper for me. I can now report exactly the same problem with an hd.img install attempt from a virgin 9.1 tree (ie nothing excluded). Alt F1 and Alt F3 at the No DISK drives message confirm that only IDE0 and IDE1 were detected.This may be a devfs problem? Time for Mandrake to acknowledge and produce a fix for this 9.1 show stopper. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. CDs made OK, but installer loops around the disk/scsi questions with no escape - inadequate GUI design. Surprisingly it seems that 9.1 has never been tested on a simple IDE2 3 on m/b config like mine. --- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 6:36 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. Thanks for that Ron CDs made OK, but CD installer baulks at the disk/scsi dialog and loop between dialogs with no exit. Message -'no device on which to create filesystems'. Seems to me it does not recognise any IDE disk channels. 9.0 recognises them all. Show stopper for me. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 29 Mar 2003 5:03 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! This makes me nervous - your ide config sounds very similar to mine The problem may not exist with an install from CDs. I have the 9.1 tree but not the ISOs. I plan now to run 9.1 mkcd from the tree to produce 9.1 ISO files, burn them to CD-RW and try to install from CD and announce the result here. Note that my downloaded 9.1 tree (see sig below) is non-standard by not including any non-English locales or RPMs. This does not give the 9.1 hd.img installer any problem. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: Ron, I haven't tried this, so I don't know if it will work or not. What happens if you make a boot floppy to do your install, but use the floppy image from the 9.0 release that supports your on-board controller? Once booted, install 9.1 from your hard drive (that's what you're trying to do, right?). Another option might be, if you have the 9.0 CDs, boot to rescue mode and mount your drives there. Then, install 9.1 from your hard drive. Again, I don't know if the above will work, as I haven't tried it and ultimately, Mandrake needs to have a patch or a fix put out. But, it may let you get 9.1 installed and running until they do. I plan to try an install from CD first, OK? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.2 MakeCD produces errors...
9.2 MakeCD produces errors... ... mkcd_build_hdlist: write /local/spare/iso9660/mandrake/cd-9.1-650/tmp/Cooker/1/synthesis.hdlist.cz getSize getSize list 1 ERROR check_version: shadow-utils-4.0.3-4mdk.i586 provides shadow-utils == 4.0.3-4mdk but util-linux-2.11x-3mdk.i586 needs shadow-utils = 2902-5 ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but tkinter-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but libpython2.2-devel-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but python-docs-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2.2-6mdk but python-utmp-0.7-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2 ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but xchat-python-2.0.0-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta4.1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins == 1-0.beta4.1mdk ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-aa-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-fb-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 cleanrpmsrate /local/mandrake/9.1/9.1-tree/i586//Mandrake/base/rpmsrate - /local/spare/iso9660/mandrake/cd-9.1-650/tmp/build/Cooker/1/Mandrake/base//rpmsrate build_list group ERROR: empty rpmlist key (HASH(0x81088378)) KEYS ) ... but goes on to produce 3 ISO images, which I now plan to burn and attempt to install 9.2 from CD. Is this serious? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 MakeCD produces errors...
Ron Stodden wrote: 9.2 MakeCD produces errors... ... mkcd_build_hdlist: write /local/spare/iso9660/mandrake/cd-9.1-650/tmp/Cooker/1/synthesis.hdlist.cz getSize getSize list 1 ERROR check_version: shadow-utils-4.0.3-4mdk.i586 provides shadow-utils == 4.0.3-4mdk but util-linux-2.11x-3mdk.i586 needs shadow-utils = 2902-5 ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but tkinter-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but libpython2.2-devel-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but python-docs-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2.2-6mdk but python-utmp-0.7-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2 ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but xchat-python-2.0.0-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta4.1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins == 1-0.beta4.1mdk ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-aa-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-fb-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs xine-plugins = 1 cleanrpmsrate /local/mandrake/9.1/9.1-tree/i586//Mandrake/base/rpmsrate - /local/spare/iso9660/mandrake/cd-9.1-650/tmp/build/Cooker/1/Mandrake/base//rpmsrate build_list group ERROR: empty rpmlist key (HASH(0x81088378)) KEYS ) ... but goes on to produce 3 ISO images, which I now plan to burn and attempt to install 9.2 from CD. Is this serious? MakeCd ends with: REJECTED master disc 1 glibc-utils-2.3.1-10mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: libgd1) REJECTED master disc 1 httpd-naat-0.8-7mdk.noarch (Missing dependencies: mod_auth_external) REJECTED master disc 1 ispell-3.2.06-8mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: ispell-dictionary) REJECTED master disc 1 jmcce-1.4-0.rc2.5mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-zh) REJECTED master disc 1 jmcce-fonts-1.4-0.rc2.5mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-zh) REJECTED master disc 1 jmcce-inputref-1.4-0.rc2.5mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-zh) REJECTED master disc 1 kinput2-wnn4-v3.1-1mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-ja) REJECTED master disc 1 kterm-6.2.0-18mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-ja) REJECTED master disc 1 naat-frontend-www-common-0.8-28mdk.noarch (Missing dependencies: mod_auth_external) REJECTED master disc 1 naat-frontend-www-en-0.8-28mdk.noarch (Missing dependencies: mod_auth_external) REJECTED master disc 1 nss_db-2.2-6mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: libnss_files.so.2(GLIBC_2.0)) REJECTED master disc 1 nss_db-compat-2.2-6mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: libnss_files.so.2(GLIBC_2.0)) REJECTED master disc 1 snf-en-8.2-11mdk.noarch (Missing dependencies: mod_auth_external) REJECTED master disc 1 ttfprint-0.9-4mdk.i586 (Missing dependencies: locales-zh) The locales are indeed missing since this was an English-only tree download. These missing locales cause no problem for the installer, so should NOT cause the calling RPM to be REJECTED from the CD, surely? The other missing dependencies need Warly investigation. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Russian Iraq military intelligence: http://www.aeronautics.ru/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Tom, Charles, Thankyou for your responses. My point is that mandrake 9.0 suppports all my IDE combinations, Mandrake 9.1 does not. I do not use any raid. Therefore, ipso facto, plainly, without doubt, as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, we have Mandrake retrogression: The fix must come from Mandrake (a corrected hd.img?). And quickly! Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday March 28 2003 09:34 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:36:11 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems simple to me, avoid buying Win-motherboards with built in fake raid. Add on a real controller on a motherboard suitable for Linux if you need so many ide's. Though completely true, Tom, the statement is not completely accurate. Unless Roms Is a Raid controller it is an onboard ide controller which Is supported by linux (Not a widblows controller) The installation problem here is the fact that the driver mod for the onboard controller is not included in the hd image but the driver mod for the pci add-on controller Is included. The same occurred with the 7.1 cds installation. ATA100 add-on cards were supported but ATA100 onboard was not. Ron, you can try passing the I/O addresses at installation start. Sometimes this will work sometime not. OTTOMH I do not recall the exact formula to use but if you want to try it I can probably dig it up for you. Charles I figured somebody would catch me in a general statement ;) I still stand by it. IMO, these integrated addon controller boards are best avoided. Most all vendors make two models of their boards, one with, one without addon controllers. If you havt'a overload the pci bus with extra ide ports, get a real controller card. Y'alls MMV --- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Installing 9.1 from an hd.img floppy immediately says No DISK drive! My two hard disks are primaries on hde and hdg. They have to be because they are ATA100 or above and IDE0 and IDE1 only support ATA66 and below. Many motherboards operate this way. 9.0 installed and runs perfectly on this configuration. The strong implication is that nobody in Mandrake development or QA uses ATA100 or up disk drives - true? Once more, another release showstopper reported by Ron. When can we expect a fix, and how will it be delivered? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Ron Stodden wrote: Installing 9.1 from an hd.img floppy immediately says No DISK drive! My two hard disks are primaries on hde and hdg. They have to be because they are ATA100 or above and IDE0 and IDE1 only support ATA66 and below. Many motherboards operate this way. 9.0 installed and runs perfectly on this configuration. The strong implication is that nobody in Mandrake development or QA uses ATA100 or up disk drives - true? Once more, another release showstopper reported by Ron. When can we expect a fix, and how will it be delivered? Further information: 9.1 Install worked OK on another machine with the same disk configuration! Configuration differences: 1st machine (fails) has a Promise chip on the Gigabyte motherboard which supports IDE0 through IDE3. 2nd machine (succeeds) has a Soltek motherboard supporting IDE0 IDE1, with an add-on Promise PCI board providing IDE2 and IDE3. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 says No DISK drive!
Joeb wrote: What's on your IDE0 and IDE1? If nothing, then disable them in CMOS and see if that works. CD-RW burner on primary IDE0. CD reader on primary IDE1. All works OK with Mandrake 9.0. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 comming?
Anne Wilson wrote: Way back, and English duo sang I'm a g-nu, a g-nother g-nu --- nor am I in the least like that dreadful hartebeast, Oh g-no, g-no, g-no, I'm a g-nu! Anne (Michael) Flanders (in his wheelchair) (Donald) Swann (piano). Both now 'late' I believe? Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 23:17, Ron Stodden wrote: civileme wrote: E, pardon my intrusion but I think you might want to check your mailer settings. I am sure you didn't want to send html to the list You are sure? How? E, use of html is deliberate because it supports useful features in this list context not provided by plain text. perhaps but extremely hard to read and often 10 times the size of ascii. Surely no-one these days is still using text-only browsers, or, worse, non-GUI operation. If so, long past time to update. Interestingly, mozilla has tabbed browsing if you select the 'Modern' theme. from Edit Preferences Appearance Themes. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ "Empty warhead found in White House" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
et wrote: On Friday 28 February 2003 02:17 am, Ron Stodden wrote: civileme wrote: E, pardon my intrusion but I think you might want to check your mailer settings. I am sure you didn't want to send html to the list You are sure? How? E, use of html is deliberate because it supports useful features in this list context not provided by plain text. you say " it supports useful features in this list contex". not _this_ list. maybe if an individual want to see an attchment of a screen shot, you might want to send the attachment to that one e-mail address, but that DOES NOT require html to this list. does it? Methinks you need to educate yourself about html before sounding off so. Text style, colour, fonts are the kind of basic communication-enhancing features I referred to. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ "Empty warhead found in White House" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
Simone Riccio wrote: Dear Ron, html is of course nice 2 see and maybe look professional but please consider that not everyone on this list has broadband, and goes on with 56Kbps modems. So, that's more than a cosmetic or geek or old fashion thing... It involves respect for those who can be eased by the lesser size of text messages! The greater size of html messages causes me, for one, no extra cost or problem, and all I have is an old age pension - nobody could be worse off for resources. html does not require broadband, since it makes no perceptible difference in message download time. So, in what way 'eased'? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
Greg Meyer wrote: HTML e-mail is always more than likely to be spam than a real message. In fact, I typically have a filter set up to automatically send mails with html to the trash. After I saw civileme's post, I had to go retrieve this one to reply to it. You'll notice how hard it is to read your post. And yes many still use text-only browsers, for many reasons, not the least of which is a security one You used kmail. Does it not handle html messages? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
civileme wrote: E, pardon my intrusion but I think you might want to check your mailer settings. I am sure you didn't want to send html to the list You are sure? How? E, use of html is deliberate because it supports useful features in this list context not provided by plain text. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Contribs
Mandrake-Authoritative answers requested: Question One. My local mirror here shows that there has been no update to 9.0-contribs since October last year. Is this correct? What has gone wrong? Question Two. When 9.1 is released, will the present Cooker-contrib become 9.1-contrib and a new Cooker-contrib be started? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Contribs
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 07:06:14 +1100 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My local mirror here shows that there has been no update to 9.0-contribs since October last year. That's correct Ron. Neither the 9.0 main or the Contrib tree will have changed since 9.0 went final which was in Oct. Once 9.1 goes final the and mirrors are updated current Cooker Contrib will become the 9.1 Contrib but there is usually a delay between the appearance of the new Main and new Contrib on the mirrors as Main is always changed/updated first. During this delay it is safe to use the current Cooker Contrib as an update source, but only for a period of a week or 2. My understanding of the purpose of contribs is for 3rd parties to contribute applications, which may be non-GPL, which are then distributed as unsupported contribs by Mandrake as a courtesy. I find it incredible if there have really been no 3rd party application contributions for 9.0 since Oct 2002. Previous releases had plenty of contrib updates during field currency of the current release. So nobody has ever submitted any contribs based on a stable 9.0? Now it seems that 3rd parties must develop thier contributed applications against the always-changing not-stable status of Cooker if they are to make it (untested!!!) into the next release? I reallly do find this incredible! Unbelievable! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ "Empty warhead found in White House" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cooker update
Greg Meyer wrote: I am synching a local mirror every night at 10:00PM est using fmirror with carroll.cac.psu.edu. I then share the local directory through nfs and define my cooker source as the local mirror. When I want to update during the day, I don't have to worry about network traffic or overloaded mirrors. Have you tried our popular GPL'd Mandrake fast downloader? Visit my web site below for more info download. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Empty warhead found in White House Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE in 9.0
et wrote: so, ron, is there any change in te error mesages if you use su - instead of su? is that the only message, and does kpackage work? does it start at all? su not involved at all.SuperUser Terminal from KDE menu, then enter password in the resulting terminal. kpackage started and worked fine. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE in 9.0
Todd Lyons wrote: Not quite. See the prompt above? It had already exited. The messages you see afterward are from kdeinit killing itself and its child processes off. Do it again and instead of hitting Ctrl-C at this point, press Enter and you'll get a prompt as well But why? Surely a completing program should make the OS give a prompt? 9.0 doesn't! strace -v kpackage kpackage.debug 21 grep -A 2 -B 10 Bad file descriptor kpackage.debug You may have to look a bit more than 10 lines above. Use less, search to the point where it has Bad file descriptor then look back towards the top to see what file is attempting to be opened that fails. Thanks, will remember for next time. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Franki wrote: there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least trying... don't know of any other... Thanks, but apache is not installed in any of the Mandrake partitions on either of the two machines involved. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. I did tell you some. It's difficult because I fix each up only as it pops up during my work - which interrupts my work. Here's a partial recap. Probably more to come as I recall them. The harware is beautifullfy sound, both before, after, and during. Gateway machine is heavily firewalled. Other machine is on a LAN from the gateway machine. 1. KDE 3.0 panel had most of its icons changed to gearwheels. 2. KDE menu abbreviated - no Terminals or File tools or Control Centre (which is up all the time on its own desktop for managing printer jobs). 3. Mozilla printing just quit with no message.Required rpm -e on all the mozilla RPMs and reinstall. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. Alas! My reply was inadvertenly attached to James Sparenburgs's message below. My apologies. All Linux partitions on both machines worked perfectly for about 6 months after expert installation. Then these problems started appearing on 3 of the partitions. Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. The installer goes with the packages it's given... it doesn't install something and go hey wait a minute and intelligently fix your problem for you. It should restore your system to the same state as when it was originally installed, except for your customisation and data, which it and rpm knows to leave alone. This does imply checksums or backup copies on hand of installed unchanging files.The installer/reinstaller has access to the RPM library used at original installation. My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an important requirement and goal of installer implementation. New arrivals to Mandrake from Windows - near all of us? - expect no less, particularly when no other solution to a randomly clobbered system is offered. Recall that the i86 architecture fails to offer hardware memory block protection that would immediately trap any program's attempt to write-access outside its allocated or shared memory blocks.The CDC 6600 had this implemented, so the technology is nothing new - except to Intel. That's the major reason why i86 architecture is not safe, especially for multiple concurrent users, and not useable for critical missions. It is incredible to me that this obvious requirement seems to have been totally overlooked by Mandrake. which is more evidence that the developers just ignore industry experience and do not appear to actually be using the product in any user-workhorse mode. Unless you're referring to another issue beyond the KDE cosmetics and mozilla printing, I'm not sure why you think DrakX has anything to do with it. Explained above. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE in 9.0
What is KDE doing all this for when I run kpackage in a terminal? This situation existed long before my recently-reported system clobbering. [root@small ron]# kpackage _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root DCOPServer up and running. kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : Networking/WWW/Mozilla.mail.desktop error stat'ing fd 3: Bad file descriptor [here kpackage was exited. No entry followed the following prompt] [root@small ron]# Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children. kdeinit: Exit. [hang. Here a ^C was necessary]. [root@small ron]# Re: _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root Setting the owner as per above does not stop the message. What service is invalid? What said so? *.desktop is not a service. What file had a bad file descriptor? According to what? What device or resource was busy? Who said so? What was it busy doing? What client was killed? The information that answers these questions was immediately available when the message is being prepared and was deliberately omitted. Why? This is a sick form of agression by the developer against his users. In this parlous state, is 9.0 a viable product? -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Dave Laird wrote: O my GOD! Mandrake 9.1beta3 installed without one single hitch, error, or problem of any sort. This is AWESOME! When it's finished it's going to be the best Mandrake version ever. For the benefit of those of us sitting this dance out, could you please tell us more about what makes it so awesome? What has really changed from 9.0? Has the problem with attempts to apply a selection of 9.0-updates (supposed to be well tested compulsory security fixes) totally clobbering 9.0 as something useful been guaranteed fixed? This has happened consistently on 3 of my 9.0 partitions so far, and the only remedy is to go to another distribution until Mandrake has it corrected. So much for the wisdom of development and QA layoffs at MandrakeSoft. The first symptom is loss of most of the KDE task bar icons and abbreviation of the KDE menu. Mozilla printing and other things , like no longer any service command, get clobbered too. Stay release until this is absolutely corrected. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ No Penguin Liberation Front (plf) access - no plf rsync server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
James Sparenberg wrote: Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software installed you do. My goodness, how would anyone possibly know? There are presently 180 9.0-update RPMs.I would have installed about one third, so you must see that I would not be prepared to conduct the enormous amount of research to find out which, and then possibly to discover it is not one but some combination. That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ No Penguin Liberation Front (plf) access - no plf rsync server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
Franki wrote: Also, I am not a yank, I'm Australian, but IF the US are telling the truth.. then hell yes, we should overthrow saddam.. and for once we should do it BEFORE a tragedy occurs, not after.. To act like that patently violates the UN charter which expressly prohibits that kind of megalomaniacal action - Iraq, USA, Australia all signed up to abide by the UN Charter. Thou shalt not aggress another sovereigh nation. Never! Not even if provoked (which Iraq has not done. Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was because Kuwait was slant drilling under the border to illegally extract Iraqian oil and refused to desist. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman. But it is plainly quite true - he is quite certifiably insane.He is the grandson of a traitor, Prescott Bush, who was aiding and abetting the Nazis though WWII until he was arrested and imprisoned.The sins of the father are visited upon the son, even over two generations. Even an elementary psychological awareness immediately recognises his multiple false projections. First, instead of owning it, he projects his own devils on to Osama bin Laden, now on to Saddam Hussien.When he describes Hussein he is describing himself and his own contemplated actions. This kind of projection is very common (and a serious sin against God), just very bad in his case.He has virtually no personality or character - his observers immediately sense this and project their own goodness on to him in the attempt to fill the psychological void (nature abhors a vacuum), but healing does not happen - it should be obvious why (there is falseness all around). The psychological effect of such behaviour on healthy observers is to induce the unconscious desire to heal (this is God at work). This strong attraction is sensed as charisma - always the result of mental sickness, serious character faults, in the observed. Shakespeare wrote most of his plays about this fascinating subject. So that in a few words is the simple explanation of what is going on. What is needed is better knowledge of one's internal psychological processes, so they are not disowned and therefore projected out on the external world. When that happens, the world reflects it back in kind, and it hurts. Beware of yourself, George W Bush! You yourself are the enemy your speechwriter describe so fluently. Bush himself is not fluent - note the constant applause interruptions in his State of the Union speech. No developed ideas at all - it takes peace and time to express them - result is more plans-void from Bush. Especially when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000 innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things. You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal. If he's a madman then everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing ovations that I could count. He also has had the highest approval rating of any president in US history. He also has my undivided attention and support. So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen then? Or more likely there is something seriously wrong with the German side of the equation. Ah, yeah, given history, I'd say definitely so. It pisses me off when other countries that have no ethics or balls to do the right thing in defense of innocents criticize my country and my president. Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered. Oh yeah, and the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to it. Madmen, eh? yeah, I can certainly talk about some madmen; like the ones that murder Jews. However I'm starting to understand why the Mandrake lists should minimize political talk; because I am extremely pissed right now. I suggest that this conversation go elsewhere; like maybe to my personal inbox, where I will be more than glad to finish this dance. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ No Penguin Liberation Front (plf) access - no plf rsync server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: Bad md5sums on 91 ISO's; CHECK yours]
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Wobo: I downloaded another copy of cd1 last night from ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/Mandrake/mandrake-iso/i586 And it was a good copy. Maybe the microshaft sql worm had something to do with this stuff; I don't know. But I am sure that downloading an iso 5 times in a row without success is wierd. There is never any need to redownload. Just use rsync -avP --stats and rsync will examine both server and local files and only download and patch in the differences - a very quick process. The lovely corollary is that after downloading with rsync, download it again - if no change is made you can be 100.% sure your download is good. That is a very quick process too. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only), Penguin Liberation Front (plf) downloads not available, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeSoft back to daily business
civileme wrote: It is unprofessional to use FUD. The biggest users ever were the old bloated IBM (yeah the company nearly knocked out of business for its arrogance) and even bigger, Microsoft. When someone else announced a product, MS would immediately announce their own implementation with a shorter delivery date. All vaporware, of course. This they did time and time again, and if the product slipped, MS would slip too, but still just before the other's release. In this way they repeatedly stole other people's product prospects and sometimes even drove them out of business (eg Netscape) by using FUD as a competition weapon. And still vaporware years later. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only), Penguin Liberation Front (plf) downloads not available, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: Bad md5sums on 91 ISO's; CHECK yours]
Damon Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 12:42, Ron Stodden wrote: There is never any need to redownload. Just use rsync -avP --stats Not all servers support rsync, in fact I think there are few that do. Most that I use do. Here's how to find out: rsync rsync://ftp.sunet.se/(or whaver server you choose - if it is an http server, change http to ftp). If this gives you the server's message of the day and a list of the available rsync download modules you are in business. But I found it very useful when downloading the 9.0 betas and RCs (it downloaded only what had changed). Best the man page regarding the flags as the clobbering / replacing ones are quite important :-) -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030119 Get Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only), Penguin Liberation Front (plf) downloads not available, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD Burners
Ric Tibbetts wrote: I'm going to put a new (IDE) CD Burner in my PC (Mdk 9.0). Any suggestions on a good one, that is known to have good compatability, and ease of install? Plextor has the best name in the business, Sony the worst. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Were still talking about the initial install aren't we? I was talking about runtime boot up. Afaik /etc/modules.conf's content hasn't been written yet i.e. is about to be written. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Take care to know which Nic is going to be eth0 or eth1 i.e. which Nic is which. Smoothwall recognizes them alphabetically on vendor. What makes you think that? It is kernel that assigns eth numbers at boot time, I suspect based on the (remembered) MAC at the other end of the link, using arp (see man arp), and the eth number assigned by kernel has nothing to do with the NIC type, NIC manufacturer, or PCI slot. I suspect that the NIC is never aware of its eth number - communication is done MAC to MAC, which is why the MAC is assigned by the NIC manufacturer on a globally unique basis, although it can be programatically changed (and the low order byte is dynamically changed as part of the cable modem protocol). -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 14 January 2003 13:12, Ron Stodden wrote: It is kernel that assigns eth numbers at boot time, I suspect based on the (remembered) MAC at the other end of the link, using arp (see man arp), and the eth number assigned by kernel has nothing to do with the NIC type, NIC manufacturer, or PCI slot. I suspect that the NIC is never aware of its eth number - communication is done MAC to MAC, which is why the MAC is assigned by the NIC manufacturer on a globally unique basis, although it can be programatically changed (and the low order byte is dynamically changed as part of the cable modem protocol). You are quite right, I didn't write that down as specifically as I should've. It isn't as much as in which order the kernel sees the nics during the install procedure but how the available drivers list is ordered. I cannot agree, since the NIC driver module is inserted based on the line in /etc.modules.conf, such as: alias eth1 tulip This indicates that the eth number has already been assigned when the driver module is inserted. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Update Mirroring
Trevor Rhodes wrote: Hello Guru Types and others, Having numerous Mandrake 9 installations here it can be a rather large amount to download to do the updates for all machines. Would anyone know how I could mirror the updates to my system and do the updates from there? At least that way I only have to download them once instead of once for each install/reinstall. Install rsync6.2.pl and rsync-exclude from my web site (after reading the readme and setting up the proper receiving structures) and run ./rsync6.2.pl to mirror everything Mandrake that you want. Then change your software sources in K-menu configuration Mandrake Control Center Software Manager Software sources to your local mirror paths. If all the other systems are located on the same LAN, your local Mandrake structures can either be mirrored to each machine (good backup strategy) or for the other machines the software sources arranged to operate from your master Mandrake mirror structure. Use this to set up and activate the following sources, as needed: 9.0 tree 9.0 contrib 9.0 updates 9.0 unsupported MandrakeClub Cooker Cooker-contrib a whole range of ISOs Then run Software Manager Software Install on each machine. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
Jack Coates wrote: I really think they need to improve the icon set, I'm sure that a flashier default icon set would improve cash flow by 14.6562144% in the first three months (not including February in this analysis) :-) I think Mandrake's popularity, and so its income, would be improved if the menu system included ALL the installed applications. At present (9.0) it still falls far short.I am frequently favourably surprised - the latest surprise is kwikdisk. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why my CD does not want to get out ?
Jason wrote: I find Kwikdisk better (it sits in the systray) and you can activate KDF from it as well. 9.0 kwikdisk (expert, everything install) doesn't run here. It loads then just hangs - no display, no diagnostics when run from terminal. ^C to recover. It is not in the list of panel appliets. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why my CD does not want to get out ?
Ron Stodden wrote: Jason wrote: I find Kwikdisk better (it sits in the systray) and you can activate KDF from it as well. 9.0 kwikdisk (expert, everything install) doesn't run here. It loads then just hangs - no display, no diagnostics when run from terminal. ^C to recover. It is not in the list of panel appliets. Ah! supermount disable, then kwikdisk runs from an icon in the systray! Nice tool! But it is best set up in rc.local to run in the background. IMHO it should be set up as a ksysv service. There in no menu item, and no 'man kwikdisk' either. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Possible Hack? -- Change in Suid Root files found
David Rankin wrote: I need help. Something went whacko with eth0 and with my system just before my nightly cron job ran and I got a lot of weird messages in my log files. I don't know if this was a successful hack or if it was just a noral response from the system after eth0 went bonkers. The log entries are as follows: Dec 26 03:54:01 Nemesis kernel: eth0: Tx hung, 2256843 vs. 2256833. Dec 26 03:54:01 Nemesis kernel: eth0: PNIC2 transmit timed out, status Assuming you have 1 NICs... The rules by which the kernel assigns eth numbers to the NICs are not published. In my experience, you cannot preset what eth number is assigned. Nor can you depend on a NIC always being assigned the same eth number (maybe what has happened to you?). I believe the arp command probably has the ability to change the eth number based on the MAC address of the NIC. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone have Hp 820cse working in MDK9?
mycal62 wrote: Hi all , quick question, does anyone have a hp 820cse working in mandrake 9.0 ? I had my working when I first installed MDK 9 but it won't work now . I know it still works as i moved it to another box ( 98lite ) and it works fine. I did the usual updates ( no cooker ) , maybe this broke it ? since it's my only printer, I would like to get it working in 9.0 , especially now that I have everything else working well in 9.0. Have you tried enabling your disabled (software) printer through the K-menu MCC, System, printer, select your printer and try the icons, then print a test page.Remove any stalled print jobs in the job list. Failing that, as root in a terminal run printerdrake, double click on your printer and reselect the driver choice and the options, then print a test page. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Possible Hack? -- Change in Suid Root files found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure about that. in /etc/modules.conf put this: alias eth0 modulename where modulename is the name of the *.o module, e.g. wavelan or 8192too. Unfortunately, not so. This will only cause the wrong driver to be insmoded for that NIC, producing loads of errors. Sorry! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Possible Hack? -- Change in Suid Root files found
I correct myself: Ron Stodden wrote: I believe the arp command probably has the ability to change the eth number based on the MAC address of the NIC. Should be: I believe the arp command probably has the ability to change the kernel-assigned eth number by using the MAC of the NIC at the other end of the link as a link identifier, a known reference point, assumed not to change. arp can tell you the value of that MAC. For this reason, it's a good idea to stick a label on all your network devices showing the MAC. MACs are assigned uniquely by the device manufacturer. They are non-volatile on the NIC, but can be changed by a driver command.. See: man arp -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why my CD does not want to get out ?
Jason wrote: Ahhh but Kwikdisk DOES have a menu entryin 9.0: Start MenuConfigurationHardwareKwikdisk,,, ;) Huh? I don't speak Windows here.Is that some kind of joke? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone have Hp 820cse working in MDK9?
mycal62 wrote: thanks for the reply, but your suggestions failed. :-( Then use the KDE Control Center System Printer or printerdrake to remove your printer (software). Then install it again as a new printer with the appropriate driver. If you are using cups, you can also try as root: service cups stop then: service cups start My HP printer has both parallel and USB interfaces, so you can try using the other interface and install it as a new printer (all diffferent software). -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why my CD does not want to get out ?
Stefano Pogliani wrote: Jure, could you pls list the steps: 1. for disabling in MCC 2. for manually control mounting (do you mean that each time I insert a CD, I should issue [from root :-[ ] a mount /dev/cdrom ?) Nah! Just use kdf (Applications - Monitoring - KDiskFree) to do all your mounting and unmounting by just clicking on the right line.For KDE, leave the kdf window up all the time by giving it its own desktop called Mount. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Stable video card
Jack Coates wrote: Voodoos are good, but I've had overheating problems with mine -- there's also a lot of outdated documentation out there that can really help you screw it up :-) I run my AGP Voodoo3 3000 with a little 5 volt fan (any computer shop) attached to the heat sink with cable ties, blowing on to the heat sink. Sink and fan are the same length and width and all the holes line up for the ties. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Drowning Servers..... Literally.
James T. Nelson III wrote: A quick google search for 'circuit board cleaner' turned up some results that might help you. I hope all of the googlers here are well aware of the new google viewer (could replace bugzilla!) and the new google image search (try a search on your surname!). Just wonderful tools! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Kazaa for linux
Jason Greenwood wrote: Nope, I'm not, I'm in New Zealand (though I am also an American) and if they want to prosecute me, they need to come here to do it and PROVE I did something wrong, which there are many ways of avoiding. I don't think that's true. Many licences are qualified as restricted to the courts of the owner's country. So you can be tried overseas in absentia and fined. However, collecting that fine is an international event and may or may not be possible.In any case the costs of collection may well exceed the penalty. Where the copyright owner has a local branch in New Zealand, you would probably be in trouble. Compare the recent case here in Melbourne where the Supreme Court deemed a defamation published in Barrons (USA) against Gutnik here in Melbourne to be actionable here in Melbourne. IOW, the deemed point of publication is where the download occurred, NOT the where the article was uploaded. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Toshiba Satellite 5105 NVIDIA Driver Problems......
Lorne wrote: Can you adjust it with the monitor? Try vidtune. I'm not sure if that still works with the new software or not. BTW, it is now xvidtune, not vidtune. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Praedor Atrebates wrote: I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. Many downloaders have a resume option which lets you continue downloadong where you left off at the end of the last session. Use rsync to download over your 56KB link, but make sure the --partial option is set. You have been around here long enough to be aware of our troels.rsync8.3.pl from my web site. Use it (--partial is always set). The web site also contains an example of using cron to automatically redial after a server timeout disconnect to enable a fully hands-off automated troels download under time-limited session conditions. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lisa
Tom wrote: You are right about the glitch in the docs. Anyhow, if you plan to run SAMBA on that ML 9.0 machine, you will need to disable lisa. The lisa package interferes with SAMBA's operation. Thanks. No use for samba here... -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Install of 'unsupported'
A software install to 9.0 of the entire unsupported/kde3.1-rc3 directory produces errors: libglut.so.3 is needed by kdegraphics-3.1-0.rc3.1-mdk htdig is needed by kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6-mdk Install aborted. What to do? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] lisa
According to kpackage, lisa is installed and is a kind of 'network neighbourhood' thingy with a daemon installed by ksysv. But 'man lisa' describes a lisajous figure drawing utility. Also: [root@small ron]# lisa [root@small ron]# NetManager::prepare: bind (TCP) failed, errno: 98 Stupid conflicts like this are not good. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Shorewall Follies - It's drivin' me NUTS!!
Jack Coates wrote: and I also recommended Monmotha for a reason :-) It's a lot easier than shorewall because it only battens down the external interface. I find gShield rated better than MonMotha. I use it. Very easy to install as well. http://muse.linuxmafia.org/gshield.html -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Install of 'unsupported'
Rolf Pedersen wrote: Ron Stodden wrote: A software install to 9.0 of the entire unsupported/kde3.1-rc3 directory produces errors: libglut.so.3 is needed by kdegraphics-3.1-0.rc3.1-mdk htdig is needed by kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6-mdk Install aborted. What to do? urpmf libglut.so.3 libMesaglut3:/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so.3 libMesaglut3:/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so.3.7.0 This is on CD1; htdig is on CD2 I beg to differ. Searches show that 1. htdig is only present in Cooker. No good for a 9.0 installation. 2. A Find shows that there is no such thing anywhere on my Mandrake mirrors as libglut* Hence my expert question... -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Install of 'unsupported'
s wrote: On Saturday 30 November 2002 06:28 am, Ron Stodden wrote: A software install to 9.0 of the entire unsupported/kde3.1-rc3 directory produces errors: libglut.so.3 is needed by kdegraphics-3.1-0.rc3.1-mdk htdig is needed by kdebase-3.1-0.rc3.6-mdk Install aborted. What to do? install libMesaglut3 htdig. I did, but the subsequent attempt to get the software installer to install the whole unsupported/kde-3.1-rc3 directory led, after a very l-o-n-g time, to a system reset. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.
Philip Webb wrote: 021128 Ron Stodden wrote: Reminder. No response to the below serious situation: I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines. Two are all OK. On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which needs an MSDOS FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it. This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk and runs Windows 98 faultlessly. I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in different partitions on this machine and both have this problem. Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it? since no-one else has responded, maybe a further question: why don't you simply use Lilo to start Linux (you mention XOSL)? ie at boot, Lilo offers you the usual screen of choices you choose one. Thanks for the response, but in this case I cannot see any relevance. Selecting Linux in XOSL calls the LILO choices screen with Linux pre-selected. I hit Enter. The clobbering of the C active flag is done somewhere in the Linux runtime. I could try setting up GRUB instead of lilo - this would eliminate lilo as the cause. I could set up lilo to boot directly into Linux as you suggest, thus elinating XOSL as the cause. but XOSL could hardly be doing this, IMHO. The site is about 70km away and my next visit is on Wednesday of next week. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.
Joe Braddock wrote: Maybe it's not Linux clobbering the active partition but something occuring at boot. Is it possible that the drive in question has some software installed to make it seeable by your bios? I know some of the WD drives come with software to make it compatable with older BIOS chips. What boot manager are you using? XOSL. See my other reply above. The hd is an IBM 20GB Deskstar. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.
zephod wrote: Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it? I agree. I never encountered anything like this. LILO can do those things, but you have to explicitly configure lilo to do such a thing (what does lilo.conf look like?). I will be at this site on next Wednesday, and will get lilo.conf then. I don't think diskdrake is capable to configure LILO to do partition-hiding / activation while booting. How did you configure XOSL? Did you install Linux on a primary or logical partition? XOSL only has Windows, Linux1 and Linux2 choices. Both Linux installations are on logical partitions. Does it occur each time after you booted Linux or just after install? Immediately after quitting either Linux the BIOS complains of no active partition. My first guess would be the configuration of XOSL. Maybe it could be some idiot program which executes lilo -A ... at boot time (you realy installed everything?), but I doubt it. Expert, Install, Every group selected except servers, no individual selection. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.
Reminder. No response to the below serious situation: Ron Stodden wrote: I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines. Two are all OK. On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which requires an MSDOS FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it. This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk, and runs Windows 98 faultlessly. I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in different partitions on this machine and both have this problem. Not very encouraging for my customer, is it?Frankly, very embarrasing. Anybody got any ideas what to do? Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it? Beats me! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.0 clobbers partition active flag.
I have successfully installed 9.0 on three machines. Two are all OK. On the third, Linux runs, as initiated by XOSL or by its floppy, but always after exit the active flag on the C drive (which contains XOSL) is clobbered, leaving an unbootable machine which requires an MSDOS FDISK run from the Windows startup floppy to fix it. This machine is Pentium 2, 300MHz, 64MB, 20GHB hard disk, and runs Windows 98 faultlessly. I have installed two 9.0s, expert, all selected except servers, LILO, in different partitions on this machine and both have this problem. Not very encouraging for my customer, is it?Frankly, very embarrasing. Anybody got any ideas what to do? Why would anything in runtime Linux ever have reason to look at the active flag in the MBR on C:? Let alone change it? Beats me! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdkonline
Marek wrote: I have set up mdkonline from the GUI to check for updates every night. Does mdkonline update kernels as well. If yes is there an option to disable the kernel updates. Historically, updates has been used to do a kernel update. IIRC, afterwards, the new kernel is current for lilo with the old set up as an alternate. Of course a reboot is required, but updates gives you no hint of that! Mandrake updates gives you an install check option on each item. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] make an rpm list on disk
Matthew O. Persico wrote: I am transplanting my cdrom, video card and hard disk from a dual CPU PII 266 box to a single CPU PIV 1.7GHz box. I am betting that I can simply choose the non-smp kernel when I boot up to get me going. If I lose the bet, I am going to have to re-install. I thought there was a way to put the list of RPMs on a disk so that when you re-install, you don't have to slog through all the menus to chose what you want. Does anyone know the command to make the file and how to invoke it during the install? You don't really provide enough information. Simplest way is to borrow the hard disk from the source machine and put it on the new machine for the following exercise: 1. Use Partition Magic to copy the Linux partition to the same Linux partition name on the new machine. 2. If you copy to another partition, all you need to change on the new machine is all the mentions of the old partition in /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf, then as root run new lilo. 2 may require you to make a temporay new linux minimum-size partition, or there may be enough from CD1's rescue mode to do the job. 3. Return the source hard disk. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GUI Crashing all the time in 9.0
someone wrote: Has anyone else had a problem with their machine dropping back from gui to console after a period of uptime? I have a computer that I run at init level 5 and use as my main home PC. However, I also have it running several things out of cron, and performing server type functions like samba and cups. It's an AMD XP 1400 with 512MB of RAM, so I don't feel I'm asking too much from the system. Almost for certain you have a hardware problem causing sporadic resets. Only change hardware with the power off and unplugged: 1. Assume it is an add-on card. Remove them all except the video card and see if the problem goes away. If so, then replace them one by one until you find the culprit. If not under warranty, throw it away. 2. Next try the memory sticks by series replacement with a good one. 3. Check the CPU temperature through the BIOS. If too high, make sure there is plenty of space inside to circulate the cooling air without obstructions (like eg a ribbon cable), that all the fans are working, and that the power supply fan outlet on the back is clear and not too close to a wall (say 6+). 4. Try a power supply with a higher wattage rating. If overloaded some power supplies may shut down and try again 15 minutes later. 5. Lastly, it might be the motherboard itself. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] docs for setting up mdk as a firewall
hans privat wrote: hi, have downloaded that script, but there are some enties I don't have an idea abot what to write in as there are : DNS : = what I have to write here ? is it the local DNS, but right now I don't have a setted up DNS - or is it the DNS of the provider ? Your provider. What else? AUTH_ALLOW=207.69.200.132 216.32.132.250 206.132.27.156 209.81.232.66 207.45.69.69 216.80.83.185 212.158.123.66 #IPs allowed to use the AUTH service (leave blank and put 113 in TCP_ALLOW for all) what I have to do with these entries ? There are no such entries in MonMotha's latest (rc.firewall-2.3.8pre7). What did you download? have tried to send an email to the programmer of this script, but all my emails bounced back - seems to be undeliverable. See: http://monmotha.mplug.org/firewall/index.php Email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (works for me) BUT, he prefers you use his mailing lists: Mailing lists are up. These lists are being hosted by the University of Hawaii ICS department and the Mid-Pacific Linux Users Group (they also host my firewall). Thanks a lot guys for all that you've done for me! Anyway, here are the lists: * monmotha-announce - Announcements of new versions, security and other errata. This is a low traffic, moderated list. * monmotha-discuss - Open, general discussion about the script. [http://mailman.mplug.org/mailman/listinfo/monmotha-discuss to join] * monmotha-devel - Developer/Development related discussion about the script. Please feel free to subscribe to the ones you feel appropriate for your usage of the script. So I'm hoping now, that anyone can give some assistance for write in the correct values in this script. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre Fortin wrote: Well... my time has run out to mess with this; seriously!!. Looks like 8.2 will have to stay on all my converts' machines until I can either find time to try again or 9.1 is released, whichever comes first. Or some other CD-RW burner appears - can you borrow one from your many family/friends/converts? I'll probably find time next month to try 9.0 on a spare machine here via NFS/FTP; but I'll have to keep one 8.2 box here to support my family/friends -- nothing worse than saying Ooops... the release you're on doesn't have that feature... -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] systemstart and eth0-dependencies
hans privat wrote: if I change the two cards, so that I have eth0 as IP 10.0.0.10 and eth1 has the IP 192.168.10.8, then I'm running into problems with ssh-login from local or remote. Now my very interesting question : Is this behavior predesigned on linux, or do I have a possibility to make a change in a script anywhere on the linux-system, so that eth0 can have also an IP 10.0.0.10 or any other IP, and the eth1 is having the local-network adress of 192.168.10.1 (or any other IP) and a login with ssh rootjojo will be successfully. The situation is certainly unsatisfactory, and the solution I use involves making all the NICs the same speed, so that they are interchangeable and you don't care which one the kernel decides is eth0. man arp is a hot clue. The arp command probably sets up which is eth0, 1, etc based not on your assigned IP address but based on the NIC's MAC address, which is really what you want. The problem here is that arp seems to be using the MAC of whatever is at the other end of the link. Anybody have an answer to this riddle? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre Fortin wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:39:08 +1000 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes, you must 'loop mount' the ISO images, then you can copy out all the
files and get the tree back.
That can't be all... that gives a tree with Mandrake/{RPMS,RPMS2,RPMS3}
which is what got us in the pickle we're in -- 3 sets of files already
separated into the CD images... I've tried recombining the RPMS*
directories into RPMS...
Yes, put them all in one RPMS
Every attempt at running MakeCD generates TONS of errors:
WARNING scoreList: package has zero size
autodeps: ignoring package
WARNING buildDisc: group 1 REJECTED package (not selected in rpm lists:
)
etc...
There is no scoreList package in the 9.0 tree (which zero size might be
trying to tell you), so you have gone off the rails somewhere. You
have only quoted warnings, not errors.
A normal good run of MakeCD generates pages and pages of messages and
warnings, yes. Nevertheless the resulting CDs are good.
Back to the number of CDs issue: I've only got a few hours before
making that trip... If I can't get 9.0 on CDs, I may just say fsck it!
and wait for 9.1 in the hopes the false-economy issue has been revisited
by saner heads...
I don't recall, but what was the problem with burning the ISO image
files that you apparently have on to 700MB blanks?
--
Ron. [Melbourne, Australia]
troels... now updated to use sunet.se server.
See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
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Re: [expert] odd permisions on mounted fat32 drive
J. Grant wrote: Hi bascule, PlugHead and W. Kasberg, PlugHead you are correct, linux inteligently maps the limited FAT readonly/system/hidden/archive to its attempt at the unix equiv. Thus system is root only, hidden is root too (with no read access to dirs i think) readonly does not have read flag for anyone. Or some variation on this, i forget, i only use fat for legacy stuff now. Due to the limited options on fat some of the files will not be mapped entirely perfectly. This means that winnt, program files etc can only be viewed by root. Also, Windows file names permit only one period (after which is the extension), whereas Linux files can have an unlimited number of periods. This means that when Windows has to handle a Linux file, it renames it so that all the periods except the last are changed to underscores. After that there is no way of telling whether an underscore was a period or an underscore. Important information is thereby permanently lost. So never use Windows to download Linux files, period! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] iptables in mdk 8.2
hans privat wrote: hi Ron, first - thanks for your answer. but have a lot of open questions anyway. the script you mentioned, I have downloaded. but for example, I don't have a setted up DNS yet. Now - I have 3 workstations and 1 (designated) firewall. and maybe, the workstations would be grow in the future. Your ISP has a couple of name servers. These will be set up automatically by dhcp or kppp on internet log on for the gateway machine. The results are the file /etc/resolv.conf These name servers are being constantly updated on a world-wide basis, so your lan machines should use these same name servers and not attempt a local name server. This is easily achieved by a one-time copy of /etc/resolv.conf to each of the lan machines. The static IP addresses of your lan machines that you have assigned are made known to each other by setting them up by hand in /etc/hosts and then one-time copying that file to all machines (see 'exports' below). Make sure for each machine that the name search order starts with 'hosts' in /etc/nsswitch, so that name search always starts with your /etc/hosts file before going out to your ISP's name servers. Ping each of your machines from each other _by_name_ to test this. Having done that, and set up masquerading in your firewall, the only other thing to set up is /etc/exports in each machine (you cannot export the / directory!) and run exportfs -r so that you can mount things from all the lan machines on each of the lan machines. Create the mount points and put all the mount information into the /etc/fstab of each machine.exportfs is from the nfs-utils RPM which may not have been installed. Crystal clear now? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Patch for Mandrake 8.2 NFS (stale handles)
Barry Rountree wrote: There are many, many, many other ways of accomplishing the same thing. But not, apparently, the conventional Edit | Find menu entry in the man page browser that everyone would expect! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Bill Beauchemin wrote: I dont have a problem using ERoaster. I burned MDK 9.0 just fine and have burned a few audio cd's also. 1. It is not installed, even in expert/all. I installed it manually. 2. It does not provide a blanking option before you burn (it is a special option outside that that you would have to somehow know about beforehand). 3. It produced kcrash after burn fixate when I tried it on 9.0 Cd2 with a 700MB RW blank.. 4. The CD was: [ronsmall scd0]$ du -Sb Mandrake 698137088 Mandrake/RPMS2 2048Mandrake [ronsmall scd0]$ The ISO was: [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ du -Sb 2-Cooker.iso 699957248 2-Cooker.iso [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ 5. md5sums: [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ md5sum /dev/scd0 2-Cooker.iso md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error 03cef1e0d2c88fe37466722f389266b0 2-Cooker.iso [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ This despite the Audio dao option being checked. 6. Ditect cdrecord: [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 --dao blank=fast 2-Cooker.iso Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling ... Track 01: 666 of 666 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 96%] 4.2x. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 699269120/699269120 (341440 sectors). Writing time: 1177.005s Fixating... Fixating time: 27.155s Average write speed 3.9x. Min drive buffer fill was 96% cdrecord: fifo had 11015 puts and 11015 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 6209 times full, min fill was 96%. [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ md5sum /dev/scd0 2-Cooker.iso 03cef1e0d2c88fe37466722f389266b0 /dev/scd0 03cef1e0d2c88fe37466722f389266b0 2-Cooker.iso [ronsmall cd-9.0-etc]$ So, plainly, eroaster cannot pass any usefulness test. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Randy Kramer wrote: Question: when you do the md5sum /dev/cdrom do you get the published md5sum? When I used to download Mandrake ISOs, yes, the md5sums did always agree, else do another rsync corrective download on top of the ISO, a very quick process. My iso images result from MakeCD on a 9.0 downloaded tree by my troels.rsync6.2.pl. This is for install by hd.img and drops all non-english RPMs and files, so differs from the Mandrake tree. There can be no download errors since I repeat troels... until it makes no further changes. The Mandrake 9.0 ISOs do not include everything in their 9.0 tree and I cannot afford to download the ISOs themselves as well as the tree, so I make my own, which are smaller, but CD2 still exceeds 650MB. So there are at least a couple of good reasons why the iso published md5sums will not agree with my ISOs. The md5sums of the ISO file and the burned CD (with 700MB blanks and --dao) are always tested and always agree. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre, ./MakeCD (no arguments) shows these options: --disc_building_tries maximum number of iteration to build correct ISO size Set the number of iterations when trying to adjust ISO size --discsize disc size in bytes Select a custom disc size (default 68100). So try these, but you may get 4 disks instead of 3 g. Mandrake deemed 4 to be an unacceptable number. Your ISO images made this way will include the RPMs dropped from the Mandrake ISOs to reduce space. There maybe a firmware upgrade for your drive - check on the web with good old google. The Acer 6206 may be a rebadged someone else's drive (look carefully all over it, inside and out). There are not that many original drive creators, the rest just rebadge.Same with CD-RW blanks. Pierre Fortin wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:22:09 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought an Acer 6206 CD burner several years ago (the manufactured date on my drive is November, 1998). At the time, it came with Easy CD-Creator version 3.something and would only burn up to 650 MB CDs. Later, Easy CD-Creator version 3.5b (IIRC) came out and allowed that same drive to burn 700 MB CDs. If your drive was manufactured since around that time, I'd dig a little deeper -- maybe all you need is some sort of software upgrade or setting. Hi Randy, As to any s/w that runs on M$, my web pages include the following: This is a Micro$oft-free site -- one Windows-induced heart attack in 1998 was enough! This means there is NO way I will ever use M$ or applications that run only on M$; let alone help any of my family/friends -- I've converted several to Linux and they are quite happy now with Mandrake 8.2 and my support efforts have dwindled to a trickle... My burner is HP7550i which HP's website (http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg40817.ht ml) claims is 80 minute capable. The common denominators are: - cdrecord is not doing something right with this drive since it doesn't notice the laser is not turned on - the drive may actually be capable to only 78:30 minutes according to some rare posts The problem is that unless HP are lying and actually have the firmware know not to turn on the laser on a larger than N burn, the odds are that any fix will have to come in cdrecord... I have a convinced a 59-year young friend who is getting a computer for the first time to learn the right way... her WalMart computer with LM8.2 installed has just shipped -- I was hoping to install LM9.0 and use that as the starting point... My point is that when Mandrake chose to create 650MB ISOs, they put a lot of users in the lurch... For the price of blank CD (a cost each of us can easily eat), here are the impacts just from my perspective: - research, locate, possibly purchase new writer - delay keeping my new Linux converts happy - training new user on 8.2 unnecessarily - time lost researching feasability of re-organizing ISOs to write on 650MB media (optional) - consider waiting for 9.1 - consider finding an alternate distro (not likely -- dumped RH for poor desktop support in '99) There are enough issues to overcome just winning and keeping new Linux converts without shoving sticks into their wheel-spokes... This was not a very business-savvy decision at Mandrake, IMO... My converts are in Canada, NC and SC; so this impacts my ability to keep these users up-to-date since I can't burn the CDs for them -- once they are completely comfortable with their move away from M$, I can have them purchase their distros directly. Until then, I am the one on the hook for keeping these new Linux users happy with their choice... and my budget includes Club membership; but this release may impact my Club contributions and whether I have to wait for 9.1 Although I do visit my family/friends occasionally, coinciding visits with new releases is NOT in my plans. Hoping Mdk does not repeat this mistake in the next release... cuz I'm not comfortable that any new burner I buy would work any better -- although HP claims my burner will burn 80 minute CDs, either the burner or cdrecord won't do it... Those are my thoughts on the issue -- sorry I was late to this discussion; but I had a marriage to attend... mine! I'd love to hear Mandrake's reasoning for releasing the ISOs in 728334336, 73358 and 478511104 sizes... Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] iptables in mdk 8.2
hans privat wrote: hi, in a sysadmin-book I've read, that with kernel 2.4 the iptables should be used. now I have done a lookup with lsmod and have seen, that there was NO iptables but an ipchains. You have the iptables RPM installed. Good! But you must now delete the ipchains ROPM - use kpackage to do that. then I have done a rmmod ipchains and was trying at first a modprobe iptables. the answer was there is no iptables-modul, then I tried it again with insmod iptables, but got this here : [rootjojobaer /]# insmod iptables insmod: iptables: no module by that name found Don't worry about this. Leave the kernel modules to look after themselves. Now I was looking with locate iptables and have found it in /sbin/iptables. Is there no module available, called iptables for mdk 8.2 ? No. and what is this prog /sbin/iptables ? That is the guts of it. You use this to install and maintain the iptables rules. how to use it ? man iptables am sorry about my bloody questions, but have never done a job with masquerading and firewalls - so these are my first steps with it. right now I'm understanding only moon of about all these things. hope, anybody can help me here A very simple way to get set up is to download to /etc/iptables the rc.iptables-2.3.8pre7 script from: http://monmotha.mplug.org/firewall/index.php cd to /etc/iptables, and customise it with an editor as explained in the script, then: ./rc.firewall-2.3.8pre7 -- to install or reinstall it, iptables-save /etc/sysconfig/iptables -- to save it from the kernel for auto reinstall after every boot then you will have a nice firewall with masquerading, without even rebooting! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] iptables in mdk 8.2
Ron Stodden wrote: A very simple way to get set up is to download to /etc/iptables the rc.iptables-2.3.8pre7 script from: Should be: rc.firewall-2.3.8pre7 script from: http://monmotha.mplug.org/firewall/index.php cd to /etc/iptables, and customise it with an editor as explained in the script, then: Set rc.firewall-2.3.8pre7 executable (Properties, Permissions) ./rc.firewall-2.3.8pre7 -- to install or reinstall it, iptables-save /etc/sysconfig/iptables -- to save it from the kernel for auto reinstall after every boot then you will have a nice firewall with masquerading, without even rebooting! -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Patch for Mandrake 8.2 NFS (stale handles)
Todd Lyons wrote: Can you try changing it to soft mounts instead of hard mounts? Also, have you tried changing the read and write block chunk size? man mount makes no mention of any 'hard' or 'soft' mount options, so what is it whereof you speak, please? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre Fortin wrote: The only difference I can see between 8.2 and 9.0 are the 650MB 9.0 ISOs... That's not a difference between 8.2 9.0, it is a difference between CD blanks. Read their ATIPs. cdrecord always has dealt with both (it also supports overburn), but not all CD-RWs may (but this is not your problem). Set your Konqueror Configuration to report file sizes in bytes, then compare with 650MB, which is either 650,000,000 or 650x1024x1024 -- 6.81574e+08 == 681,574,000. Perhaps what you thought was 650MB really wasn't? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CLI
Brian York wrote: A silly question but what is the command to show disk information (freespace, total space,.) The KDE equivalent of df is kdf wnich gives you a graphical display of all your local or remote mounted partitions/file systems as indicated in your /etc/fstab. It also manages mounting, unmounting and file manager invocations on the mount points for you and is worth retaining open or rolled-up on one of your desktops at all times. It is invoked by K; Applications; Monitoring; kdf. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Patch for Mandrake 8.2 NFS (stale handles)
Todd Lyons wrote: From my man page: Also the following Boolean options, possibly preceded by no are recognized: bg, fg, soft, hard, intr, posix, cto, ac, tcp, udp, lock. For details, see nfs(5). Especially useful options include rsize=8192,wsize=8192 This will make your nfs connection faster than with the default buffer size of 4096. (NFSv2 does not work with larger values of rsize and wsize.) hard The program accessing a file on a NFS mounted file system will hang when the server crashes. The process cannot be interrupted or killed unless you also specify intr. When the NFS server is back online the program will continue undisturbed from where it was. This is probably what you want. soft This option allows the kernel to time out if the nfs server is not responding for some time. The time can be specified with timeo=time. This option might be useful if your nfs server sometimes doesn't respond or will be rebooted while some process tries to get a file from the server. Usually it just causes lots of trouble. Yes, but it took me a LONG time to find them in man mount, because (I discover - thanks!) they only apply to the network file system (nfs). I suppose I should apologise, but some kind of find capabilty on man pages would have helped... I would say that 'hard' is the default which means that nfs mounts will not reliably umount on shutdown, causing indefinite hangs since 7.2 (still a problem in 9.0). I will try 'intr' on these mounts. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre Fortin wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:01:09 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday October 16 2002 09:58 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: ARGHHH! Worse!!! What appeared to be under *700*, wasn't: 681836544 Mar 18 2002 Mandrake82-cd1-inst.i586.iso 680624128 Mar 18 2002 Mandrake82-cd2-ext.i586.iso 679739392 Mar 18 2002 Mandrake82-cd3-supp.i586.iso * 728334336 Sep 29 03:24 Mandrake90-cd1-inst.i586.iso * 73358 Sep 29 17:00 Mandrake90-cd2-ext.i586.iso 478511104 Sep 30 01:51 Mandrake90-cd3-i18n.i586.is 73358 bytes == 699.6 MB and easily fits on a 700MB CD Apparently not with _xcdroast_... it just burned a blank disk... I just burned 8.2 successfully on the *same* platter that xcdroast claimed was burned with 9.0 I'm burning 9.0 with -overburn right now... of course, that can only be done with _cdrecord_ directly since xcdroast does not appear to have support for overburn and many other cdrecord options. As Tom says, all the 9.0 misc/MakeCD iso images will fit on CD-RW 700MB blanks. I have done it without overburn, so do not see your problem? Perhaps the 9.0 iso files might go on 650MB blanks with overburn? ... Bottom line: GUI frontends generally suck! Absolutely true - all of them that I have tried get it wrong. Every one!I do not know why Mandrake perseveres or distributes them since they do not work - not one of them! cdrecord is tops, and very easy to use as root. Don't forget the dao argument if you want to be able to md5sum iso file /dev/cdrom, which IMHO is essential. There is no equivalent in Windows 98 SE - but some Windows burning software has a verify mode, which cdrecord does not have. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Patch for Mandrake 8.2 NFS (stale handles)
Pierre Fortin wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:19:54 +1000 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some kind of find capabilty on man pages would have helped... Did you try /stringreturn...? Same as find in less... No, but that is nice to know, thanks but users (me) would normally expect an Edit | Find menu entry. What text language are the man pages written in? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...
Pierre Fortin wrote: Last year, my telco lowered its DSL rates by $10/mo; all of those savings went into the Mandrake Club. This time, since it looks like I may have to shell out for a new writer*, whatever money is spent on it due to Mandrake's choice of ISO size will impact my Club level... * unfortunately, if the specs are still at 650MB, then any product is still a risky choice. CD technology has always been hard to keep up with. A new drive is probably only good for 6 months. And now we have obsolescence of record speed x 2, so what do we do with those earlier x2 CD-RW blanks we all have? My Plextor 40/12/40 won't write them (cdrecord changes a speed=2 request to speed=4) but my Sony 10/4/32 will. I will have to use the x2 blanks for giveaway software, since everyone with multiread capability (what happened to that organisation and logo?) should be able to read them. It's a difficult situation, but optical technology, while having enormous potential, is far from stable and mature - and we have another generstion of incompatibilities (ie more expense on drives) among optical devices ahead of us as DVDs and DVD writers emerge and CDs become entirely obsolete (very soon now, I think). So you have to kind-of wait - there is always something better around the corner. Prices have been dropping, but even so, the drive makers must be really raking in the dough. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] docs for setting up mdk as a firewall
Two errors in the parent message (My apologies): Ron Stodden wrote: To install: 1. ./rc.firewall-2.3.8-pre7 2. iptables-save /etc/sysconfig/iptables/iptables Should be: 2. iptables-save /etc/sysconfig/iptables from where it will be automatically loaded at boot time. You can do 1 above any time since the script starts with iptables flush commands. Should be: You can edit rc.firewall-2.3.8-pre7 and do 1 2 above any time since the script starts with iptables flush commands. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [Fwd: MDK 9.0 crashes at boot]
Bogdan Stancescu wrote: I seem to have selected lilo with graphical menu at install. You must have also created a boot floppy at install time, yes? Anyway, I can't edit /etc/lilo.conf because I can't boot any kind of Linux for now! That is what the boot floppy you created was for. Boot, then as root execute lilo will restore system to hard-disk-bootable. If you foolishly did not create a boot floppy or the installation is somehow corrupted, you still can by repeating the original install in update mode. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
