[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** It looks like Michael Miller is a former TM teacher, now teaching on his own at his London center. The meditation teacher he refers people to in Los Angeles clearly says Guru Dev is the source of what they are calling Vedic Meditation (in order to avoid being sued by the TMO): Simple opportunist and thief with deep pockets. Take one look at his face and you know.
[FairfieldLife] 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
What everyone is really concerned about; Under the surface, is the moral decay, apathy; From the 90's, to date... We need a change alright! All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It hurts me too?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Miss(?) Erja L. playing some Elmore James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s7KQ7wheMIfeature=related That was all of it Card! Nice one. I really dig how she doesn't over sing. Kinda boggles my mind that this music from Mississippi and Chicago got all the way to Finland and took this chick over! I hope she does Elmore's The Sky is Crying. Thanks for keeping me up on what's going on across the ocean Card. Excellent! I guess there ain't that many white (or of any colour, for that matter) chicks playing almost exclusively blues guitar.
[FairfieldLife] Slaughter-yoga? ; )
hatha m. a blow , stroke RV. ; killing , slaughter ib. Not really, small things matter... :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe
On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Sorry to intrude in such nice projection but John wrote the song when his wife Cynthea kept running her mouth BEFORE they went to Rishikesh. Did you ever write a song Off? He wasn't thinking within the boundaries of philosophy you are trying to stuff him into. He was creating a word collage. Read what they guy wrote about his own songs and you will understand. Trying to turn his clever word salad into an advocacy piece for TM just shows how little you understand about his music. OTHO everything you say is true FOR YOU. That is the great thing about poetic songwriting. It was just the last part about Not wishing to see Off World disappointed, there really was a song about the Maharishi and TM that John did write after Rishikesh. It's actually called the Maharishi Song (it did not appear in any peer- reviewed journals): http://youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w The Maharishi Song - JOHN LENNON - HOME RECORDING (1968) THE MAHARISHI SONG KEY: G Chords used: EADGBE G: 320003 JOHN: Well let me tell you something about the Maharishi camp, in Rishi Kesh. There were one or two attractive women there, but mainly looked like, you know, schoolteachers or somethin'. And the whole damn camp was fine on the ones in the bathing suits, and they're supposed to be meditatin'. And there's this cowboy there called Tom who plays cowboys on TV, and my, did the Beatle wives go for him in a big way. I wonder what it was - it was his tight leather belt, his jeans, and his dumb eyes. YOKO: What's wrong with his eye? You have this eye. JOHN: Me, I took it for real, I wrote six hundred songs about how I feel; I felt like dying, and crying, and committing suicide, but I felt creative and said: 'What the hell's this got to do with what that silly little man's talking about?' But he did charm me in a way because he was funny, sort of cuddly, like a sort of, you know... YOKO: Like a teddy bear. JOHN: ...little daddy with a beard telling stories of heaven as if he knew. You could never pin him down, but he often spread rumors through his right hand man who used to be with the CIA and told about the planes he saved. How Maharishi came through the storm - on a plane. And the pilot was getting worried they couldn't land. When Maharishi looked up with one foul look, according to the man who works for him, everything was OK and they landed. After that I thought: lies. But who was that woman that looks like Jean Simmons who keeps going to him for private interviews? She musta been about forty, forty-five. Kept tellin' about her husband 'cause he wasn't there. I was always tryin' to get a private audience with the Maharishi and he kept refusing. I know only one thing. He musta had some of his own, it musta been that little Indian piece; she came with the tailor and would sit at his feet and that was one in five hundred. The rest had to wait like good American people, in lines to see the master walkin' on the petals who lived in a million dollar staccato house overlookin' the Himalayas. He looked holy. YOKO: But he was a sex maniac... JOHN: I couldn't say that, but he certainly wasn't... YOKO: Holy. JOHN: In the true sense of the word, that is.
[FairfieldLife] Disinformation
For instance, Wire Service News: Feldman said the Maharishi's work would live on because he has trained tens of thousands of teachers over the years. Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation ~ 1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil 2. Become incredulous and indignant 3. Create rumor mongers 4. Use a straw man 5. Sidetrack opponents w name calling, ridicule 6. Hit and Run 7. Question motives 8. Invoke authority 9. Play Dumb 10. Associate opponent charges with old news 11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions 12. Enigmas have no solution 13. Alice in Wonderland Logic 14. Demand complete solutions 15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions 16. Vanish evidence and witnesses 17. Change the subject 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad 19. Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs 20. False evidence 21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor 22. Manufacture a new truth 23. Create bigger distractions 24. Silence critics 25. Vanish Eight Traits of The Disinformationalist ~ 1. Avoidance 2. Selectivity 3. Coincidental 4. Teamwork 5. Anti-conspiratorial 6. Artificial Emotions 7. Inconsistent 8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant by H. Michael Sweeney Built upon Thirteen Techniques for Truth Suppression by David Martin, the following may be useful to the initiate in the world of dealing with veiled and half-truth, lies, and suppression of truth when serious crimes are studied in public forums. This, sadly, includes every day news media, one of the worst offenders with respect to being a source of disinformation. Where the crime involves a conspiracy, or a conspiracy to cover up the crime, there will invariably be a disinformation campaign launched against those seeking to uncover and expose the truth and/or the conspiracy. There are specific tactics which disinfo artists tend to apply, as revealed here. Also included with this material are seven common traits of the disinfo artist which may also prove useful in identifying players and motives. The more a particular party fits the traits and is guilty of following the rules, the more likely they are a professional disinfo artist with a vested motive. People can be bought, threatened, or blackmailed into providing disinformation, so even good guys can be suspect in many cases. Provided Online by http://www.neurolinguistic.com ..
[FairfieldLife] Dueling Song Lyrics (was Re: Across the universe)
Fair is fair, right? I mean, if Off and Nabby can (as Curtis put it so accurately) gush all over one of John Lennon's songs as some kind of advocacy piece for Maharishi and TM, it seems fair and balanced to trot out the song in which John rather clearly expressed his real feelings about both, using Maharishi's actual name this time. Before the Apple lawyers made him change the lyrics, that is. Maharishi what have you done You made a fool of everyone You made a fool of everyone Maharishi ooh what have you done Maharishi you broke the rules You layed it down for all to see You layed it down for all to see Maharishi oooh you broke the rules One sunny day the world was waiting for a lover He came along to turn on everyone Maharishi the greatest of them all Maharishi how did you know The world was waiting just for you The world was waiting just for you Maharishi oooh how did you know Maharishi you'll get yours yet However big you think you are However big you think you are Maharishi oooh you'll get yours yet We gave him everything we owned just to sit at his table Just a smile would lighten everything Maharishi he's the latest and the greatest of them all He made a fool of everyone Maharishi However big you think you are Maharishi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Sorry to intrude in such nice projection but John wrote the song when his wife Cynthea kept running her mouth BEFORE they went to Rishikesh. Did you ever write a song Off? He wasn't thinking within the boundaries of philosophy you are trying to stuff him into. He was creating a word collage. Read what they guy wrote about his own songs and you will understand. Trying to turn his clever word salad into an advocacy piece for TM just shows how little you understand about his music. OTHO everything you say is true FOR YOU. That is the great thing about poetic songwriting. It was just the last part about Not wishing to see Off World disappointed, there really was a song about the Maharishi and TM that John did write after Rishikesh. It's actually called the Maharishi Song (it did not appear in any peer- reviewed journals): http://youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w The Maharishi Song - JOHN LENNON - HOME RECORDING (1968) THE MAHARISHI SONG KEY: G Chords used: EADGBE G: 320003 JOHN: Well let me tell you something about the Maharishi camp, in Rishi Kesh. There were one or two attractive women there, but mainly looked like, you know, schoolteachers or somethin'. And the whole damn camp was fine on the ones in the bathing suits, and they're supposed to be meditatin'. And there's this cowboy there called Tom who plays cowboys on TV, and my, did the Beatle wives go for him in a big way. I wonder what it was - it was his tight leather belt, his jeans, and his dumb eyes. YOKO: What's wrong with his eye? You have this eye. JOHN: Me, I took it for real, I wrote six hundred songs about how I feel; I felt like dying, and crying, and committing suicide, but I felt creative and said: 'What the hell's this got to do with what that silly little man's talking about?' But he did charm me in a way because he was funny, sort of cuddly, like a sort of, you know... YOKO: Like a teddy bear. JOHN: ...little daddy with a beard telling stories of heaven as if he knew. You could never pin him down, but he often spread rumors through his right hand man who used to be with the CIA and told about the planes he saved. How Maharishi came through the storm - on a plane. And the pilot was getting worried they couldn't land. When Maharishi looked up with one foul look, according to the man who works for him, everything was OK and they landed. After that I thought: lies. But who was that woman that looks like Jean Simmons who keeps going to him for private interviews? She musta been about forty, forty-five. Kept tellin' about her husband 'cause he wasn't there. I was always tryin' to get a private audience with the Maharishi and he kept refusing. I know only one thing. He musta had some of his own, it musta been that little Indian piece; she came with the tailor and would sit at his feet and that was one in five hundred. The rest had to wait like good American people, in lines to see the master walkin' on the petals who lived in a million dollar staccato house overlookin' the Himalayas. He looked holy. YOKO: But he was a sex maniac... JOHN: I couldn't say that, but he certainly wasn't... YOKO: Holy. JOHN: In the true sense of the word, that is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What everyone is really concerned about; Under the surface, is the moral decay, apathy; From the 90's, to date... We need a change alright! All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same. Are you gonna run for office?
[FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought
This is just a very tiny insight. What is not a thought? Whats more real than thought? Now don't get excited, this insight is very tiny. Consider this. 2+2=4 Is that a thought? Here's the thing. You clearly can have the thought 2+2=4, that's obvious. BUT IT'S NOT JUST A THOUGHT!The only reason that the thought 2+2=4 is of any interest is because IT REPRESENTS A PRINCIPLE! The principle is that if you put together two of anything twice you going to ALWAYS get four. The reason why that principle is not a thought, even though you can only think of it AS a thought, is because that principle is ALWAYS TRUE regardless of whether anyone thinks it or not. And it's true at all times, in all places, and under all conditions. So it's a universal principle. And it would still be true even if everyone in the universe was convinced that 2+2=5. Wouldn't matter. The principle would still be just as true. Like I say, it's tiny. But it may have enormous implications. It would mean that LIFE is intimately connected with universal principle. Now consider this. All the protons, neutrons, electrons and all the stuff those fellas do, are are all described by mathematical principles that define all their characteristics. In fact some Physicists say that they're only occasions of characteristics themselves, or in other words, only occasions of principle. Principle that was just as real in the middle ages when no one had any THOUGHTS about it, principle that is no more real now that 834 Atomic Physicists are thinking thoughts about it all the time. So what, Ben? Just like principle is beyond all thought, Life is beyond all your insights. Life isn't something to understand, you hopeless egghead; Life is something to be experienced. Ok, well then, how can one EXPERIENCE PRINCIPLE? Can you guess what the Ultimate Universal Principle would be? GOD! Maybe God's not only that, but He surely is that at least! And how do we experience God? Thy will be done! And now wait till you hear this! First listen to these guys, David Swarup Jeff Hijlkema, playing music by just listening to God, not knowing what they're going to play till they play it. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=116913507blogID=349306059 No, come on now, take three minutes to listen to that, just click on it, and then listen. (pause) Now remember what they said about how they played? an amazing acoustic and a magic improvisation -- we did not say a word..it came to us in the moment from the beginning till the end! Thanks up there!:):):):) This is what we're all after, to be Life-inspired in every moment, in all we do. I've noticed it beginning to happen in some things between me and Mary; and in some emails I write, not anything I post as yet, just one on one emails, when I don't think, I just write, and it's perfect for it's purpose, and I know if I gave it any thought I would never have written what I did. And there was a period several years ago I got into this Life-inspired zone somehow and there'd be 30 or 40 people waiting for a Class, and I'd leave my notes behind and would say what came to me to say in each moment, without knowing what I would say next till the next moment came, all day long, from nine in the morning till nine at night. (with breaks of course) But then somehow I lost it and had to teach from notes again. And it never extended into any other areas of my life, or only did very, very rarely. This must be a matter of Mind to Life. Is it not? Or is this different? Or is it all so simple as my will is Mind, and Thy will is Life? Is that it? Listening to God surely isn't a matter of tuning into how some infinite dude wants things to go! God is at the very least infinite universal principle. But who cares? So what? The EXPERIENCE is surrender to Thy will be done. That's all you need to know. Tiny insights would only get in the way. So forget all I wrote. It will only get in the way. Much Love, Ben - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/2/08 11:55:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If he ends up back in the White House, he could possibly be there longer than any other president= 16 years...think about it! America going thru Shani Shani twice in my life time! **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Slaughter-yoga? ; )
On Feb 3, 2008, at 5:49 AM, cardemaister wrote: hatha m. a blow , stroke RV. ; killing , slaughter ib. Not really, small things matter... :D If you ever get to see movies of Tibetan yogis practicing their lineal version of hatha-yoga (the original hatha-yogins were Buddhist- Shaivite hybrids) which wasn't interrupted by the Muslim invaders, you'll immediately get that the above definitions are actually descriptive. The movie The Yogis of Tibet ( http://www.theyogisoftibet.com/ ) has some striking examples. The original asanas were actually moving and linked to breathing patterns. The Lukhang of the Fifth Dalai Lama contains a mural which shows many of them. To the outsider these may appear forceful or violent and indeed, the cave yogi tradition I learned them from said to practice them like it was 'the last thing you were doing before you died.' Forcibly and deliberately. There is another definition, an inner, yogic definition, which appears in the Goraksha Samhita, says that Ha Tha means sun and moon. Interestingly, this derivation isn't completely supported in most dictionaries.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/2/08 9:17:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, I'm supporting Hillary because I think Obama is caught up in his own groundswell and really hasn't a clue what he's going to be facing if he's elected (or even just if he's nominated). I'm very doubtful that the support he's attracting is going to discourage the opposition among the power structure he'll have to deal with in the slightest. It's all thrilling and inspirational and uplifting and intoxicating, and I wish to heck I could be part of it just because it must *feel* so good. But I'm not at all sure there's any real muscle behind it. Judy, you're not giving your party much credit. Don't you think if Obama is nominated that the rest of the Democrats will rally behind and support him? He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Unified Field: The Key to Enlightenment, National Invincibility, and World Peace
Conference Starts on Monday 7:30pm at MSAE auditorium in Fairfield. The Unified Field, according to modern physics, is the deepest, most powerful level of Nature's functioningand the source of the infinite creativity and intelligence within every individual and displayed throughout the universe. http://www.america.unifiedfieldconferences.org/ A unique new 12-part videotaped conference series will be launched on February 4, 2008, in cities throughout the United States and around the world. The conference videotapes will be presented over 12 consecutive days, from Monday, February 4, to Friday, February 15. The public is invited to attend all conferences.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Why Obama Could Get Osama'
In a message dated 2/3/08 12:56:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Osama and his coherts have escaped, Both the Clinton's and the Bush's... Osama and his cohorts seem to have some, Kind of spiritual/psychic/Kind of spiritual/psy Seems to me: it would take, A spiritual force, as well as a military force: To penetrate the veil where he hides... Somehow we as a nation haven't pulled together, And become a beam of light strong enough; To overcome the veil of divisiveness, Divided we are weak, and unable, To penetrate areas of darkness, That night vision goggles don't penetrate. Obama promises to penetrate the veil; Only a unified spiritual force; Combined with political purity, Can end the reign Of spiritual leaders with evil intentions. So, there! Robert, Osama is protected by a culture. A culture that when somebody takes refuge in your home, you defend that person with your life. Also a culture of fear that if you betray somebody like Osama, not only your life but the lives of you immediate and extended family will be in jeopardy. He's on the run, moving constantly. Sooner or later he'll be nailed. Glad to see you've noticed we haven't pulled together as a nation and are divided, but ask yourself who's fault that is. Who was legally elected President in 2000 and who has fought that tooth and nail and resisted every thing the President has done. There is an old saying *either lead , follow or get out of the way*. The Democrats have done none of these. All they have done is thrown a temper tantrum for the past 7 years because the United States Supreme Court would not allow the Florida Supreme Court to rewrite state law regarding recounts in the middle of an election. Courts don't write law , they enforce them! Obama can promise you anything but there is no indication he can deliver. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'
In a message dated 2/3/08 12:06:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The blame is more with the whole thing that's being strummed up in the election, of Washington being broken: too much noise in the system... Too much divisiveness. Bush and the Clintons seem to invite divisiveness. That's the whole theme of the Obama campaign, to amend these tendencies. Time will tell, whether that is even possible, or whether we will just hold on to what is familiar in a time of change. I agree, but the only solution is that oil and water will mix. Conservativism and Capitalism just will not mix with Liberalism and Socialism. No matter how much Obama could be respected and even adored for his character and personality, his ideas and direction he wants to take the country will be fought tooth and nail. His side is not going to accept what the other side wants and vice versa. Oil and water will not Unite. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Unified Field: The Key to Enlightenment, National Invincibility, and World Peace
The unified field, a construct of physics, and the experience of pure consciousness are not the same. This analogy, which as an analogy worked fine, has now become literal. --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conference Starts on Monday 7:30pm at MSAE auditorium in Fairfield. The Unified Field, according to modern physics, is the deepest, most powerful level of Nature's functioningand the source of the infinite creativity and intelligence within every individual and displayed throughout the universe. http://www.america.unifiedfieldconferences.org/ A unique new 12-part videotaped conference series will be launched on February 4, 2008, in cities throughout the United States and around the world. The conference videotapes will be presented over 12 consecutive days, from Monday, February 4, to Friday, February 15. The public is invited to attend all conferences. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 3:00:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/08 3:00:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Do I think the status quo will change easily, no. There will be all kinds of resistance to change. But, as we know, in a quatum mechanical world- It's all a matter of vibration of the field. Barack Obama is inspiring a higher vibration of the field. If enough people can raise their vibration the field will allow for more evolutionary change. You will see, that Hillary or McCain will win where people are rigid and afraid of any real change. Many Independents and Republicans are going with Obama. The whole political field is changing. The status quo will do everything it can to remain the same. It's like the ego will find every-way it can to hold onto to it's illusion of power, and in the same way, as the vibration increases, as the tables are turned over in the Temple, the status quo hits back in every-way it can. It's a battle of staying in the hut, or moving to higher ground. If anyone thinks that Hillary Clinton or John McCain can lead us to higher ground, well, we get the government we deserve...
[FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/08 8:36:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. Right, that was the pitch for Bush as well on the Republican side, and we know how that turned out And it will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should either one of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and neither side is going to work with the other. What makes you think Hillary can do any better of a job than Obama pushing thru an agenda if the opposition is determined to see the President fail? Because she at least knows what she'd be up against; she's been fighting these people for a long time. Obama just doesn't have a clue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. This is too ridiculous to even deserve a comment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe
Vaj! I had forgotten about that little gem. Thanks for starting my Sunday with a laugh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Sorry to intrude in such nice projection but John wrote the song when his wife Cynthea kept running her mouth BEFORE they went to Rishikesh. Did you ever write a song Off? He wasn't thinking within the boundaries of philosophy you are trying to stuff him into. He was creating a word collage. Read what they guy wrote about his own songs and you will understand. Trying to turn his clever word salad into an advocacy piece for TM just shows how little you understand about his music. OTHO everything you say is true FOR YOU. That is the great thing about poetic songwriting. It was just the last part about Not wishing to see Off World disappointed, there really was a song about the Maharishi and TM that John did write after Rishikesh. It's actually called the Maharishi Song (it did not appear in any peer- reviewed journals): http://youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w The Maharishi Song - JOHN LENNON - HOME RECORDING (1968) THE MAHARISHI SONG KEY: G Chords used: EADGBE G: 320003 JOHN: Well let me tell you something about the Maharishi camp, in Rishi Kesh. There were one or two attractive women there, but mainly looked like, you know, schoolteachers or somethin'. And the whole damn camp was fine on the ones in the bathing suits, and they're supposed to be meditatin'. And there's this cowboy there called Tom who plays cowboys on TV, and my, did the Beatle wives go for him in a big way. I wonder what it was - it was his tight leather belt, his jeans, and his dumb eyes. YOKO: What's wrong with his eye? You have this eye. JOHN: Me, I took it for real, I wrote six hundred songs about how I feel; I felt like dying, and crying, and committing suicide, but I felt creative and said: 'What the hell's this got to do with what that silly little man's talking about?' But he did charm me in a way because he was funny, sort of cuddly, like a sort of, you know... YOKO: Like a teddy bear. JOHN: ...little daddy with a beard telling stories of heaven as if he knew. You could never pin him down, but he often spread rumors through his right hand man who used to be with the CIA and told about the planes he saved. How Maharishi came through the storm - on a plane. And the pilot was getting worried they couldn't land. When Maharishi looked up with one foul look, according to the man who works for him, everything was OK and they landed. After that I thought: lies. But who was that woman that looks like Jean Simmons who keeps going to him for private interviews? She musta been about forty, forty-five. Kept tellin' about her husband 'cause he wasn't there. I was always tryin' to get a private audience with the Maharishi and he kept refusing. I know only one thing. He musta had some of his own, it musta been that little Indian piece; she came with the tailor and would sit at his feet and that was one in five hundred. The rest had to wait like good American people, in lines to see the master walkin' on the petals who lived in a million dollar staccato house overlookin' the Himalayas. He looked holy. YOKO: But he was a sex maniac... JOHN: I couldn't say that, but he certainly wasn't... YOKO: Holy. JOHN: In the true sense of the word, that is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unified Field: The Key to Enlightenment, National Invincibility, and World P
The Unified Field, according to modern physics, is the deepest, most See the Wikipedia entry on unified field theories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_field_theory . There is no generally accepted UFT, it's not even clear that field theory is the right concept to be using. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the results come in from CERN regarding super-symmetry and Higgs. Suppose the running orders of the coupling constants don't meet, that could imply that there is no UFT. It'll be a nice test to see if this guy was born with or without a sense of shame.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:50:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I think the status quo will change easily, no. There will be all kinds of resistance to change. But, as we know, in a quatum mechanical world- It's all a matter of vibration of the field. Barack Obama is inspiring a higher vibration of the field. If enough people can raise their vibration the field will allow for more evolutionary change. You will see, that Hillary or McCain will win where people are rigid and afraid of any real change. Many Independents and Republicans are going with Obama. The whole political field is changing. The status quo will do everything it can to remain the same. It's like the ego will find every-way it can to hold onto to it's illusion of power, and in the same way, as the vibration increases, as the tables are turned over in the Temple, the status quo hits back in every-way it can. It's a battle of staying in the hut, or moving to higher ground. If anyone thinks that Hillary Clinton or John McCain can lead us to higher ground, well, we get the government we deserve... Oh Robert, you really are the idealist Chris Mathews spoke about a couple of weeks ago, *full of high hopes and dreams* mixed with a dash of mysticism. Hope you aren't crushed too badly when the vibes fade and you all of the sudden have to wake up. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/2/08 9:17:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, I'm supporting Hillary because I think Obama is caught up in his own groundswell and really hasn't a clue what he's going to be facing if he's elected (or even just if he's nominated). I'm very doubtful that the support he's attracting is going to discourage the opposition among the power structure he'll have to deal with in the slightest. It's all thrilling and inspirational and uplifting and intoxicating, and I wish to heck I could be part of it just because it must *feel* so good. But I'm not at all sure there's any real muscle behind it. Judy, you're not giving your party much credit. Don't you think if Obama is nominated that the rest of the Democrats will rally behind and support him? Yes, of course, where did I suggest otherwise?? He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. Right, that was the pitch for Bush as well on the Republican side, and we know how that turned out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/3/08 3:00:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All the divisiveness needs to end, soon. If not, and we get another Republican President- Well, that, my friends, could be the end of this Democracy... Apathy, lies, division, war-mongering; Quite simply, we don't need any-more-of- the- same And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/3/08 8:36:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He'll have the same advisors and coaching Hillary or any other Democrat would have. Yes, ultimately Obama would have to make the decisions, but he'll have lots of information and people surrounding him to help him, just as any President does. It's not like he's going to battle by himself. Right, that was the pitch for Bush as well on the Republican side, and we know how that turned out And it will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should either one of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and neither side is going to work with the other. What makes you think Hillary can do any better of a job than Obama pushing thru an agenda if the opposition is determined to see the President fail? **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe
On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:18 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Vaj! I had forgotten about that little gem. Thanks for starting my Sunday with a laugh. I always loved the ending. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] 'Back to the Future- 1960'
Ask Not What J.F.K. Can Do for Obama writePost();if (acm.cc) acm.cc.write();By FRANK RICH Published: February 3, 2008 BEFORE John F. Kennedy was a president, a legend, a myth and a poltergeist stalking Americas 2008 campaign, he was an upstart contender seen as a risky bet for the Democratic nomination in 1960. Barry Blitt if (acm.rc) acm.rc.write();Kennedy was judged an ambitious but superficial playboy by his liberal peers, according to his biographer Robert Dallek. He never said a word of importance in the Senate, and he never did a thing, in the authoritative estimation of the Senates master, Lyndon Johnson. Adlai Stevenson didnt much like Kennedy, and neither did Harry Truman, who instead supported Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri. J. F. K. had few policy prescriptions beyond Democratic boilerplate (a higher minimum wage, comprehensive housing legislation). As his speechwriter Richard Goodwin recalled in his riveting 1988 memoir Remembering America, Kennedys main task was to prove his political viability. He had to persuade his party that he was not a wealthy dilettante and not too young, too inexperienced and, above all, too Catholic to be president. How did the fairy-tale prince from Camelot vanquish a field of heavyweights led by the longtime liberal warrior Hubert Humphrey? It wasnt ideas. It certainly wasnt experience. It wasnt even the charisma that Kennedy would show off in that falls televised duels with Richard Nixon. Looking back almost 30 years later, Mr. Goodwin summed it up this way: He had to touch the secret fears and ambivalent longings of the American heart, divine and speak to the desires of a swiftly changing nation his message grounded on his own intuition of some vague and spreading desire for national renewal. In other words, Kennedy needed two things. He needed poetry, and he needed a country with some desire, however vague, for change. Mr. Goodwin and his fellow speechwriter Ted Sorensen helped with the poetry. Still, the placid America of 1960 was not obviously in the market for change. The outgoing president, Ike, was the most popular incumbent since F. D. R. The suburban boom was as glossy as it is now depicted in the television show Mad Men. The Red Panic of the McCarthy years was in temporary remission. But Kennedys intuition was right. Americas boundless self-confidence was being rattled by (as yet) low-grade fevers: the surprise Soviet technological triumph of Sputnik; anti-American riots in even friendly non-Communist countries; the arrest of Martin Luther King Jr. at an all-white restaurant in Atlanta; the inexorable national shift from manufacturing to white-collar jobs. Kennedy bet his campaign on, as he put it, the single assumption that the American people are uneasy at the present drift in our national course and that they have the will and strength to start the United States moving again. For all the Barack Obama-J. F. K. comparisons, whether legitimate or over-the-top, what has often been forgotten is that Mr. Obamas weaknesses resemble Kennedys at least as much as his strengths. But to compensate for those shortcomings, he gets an extra benefit that J. F. K. lacked in 1960. Theres nothing vague about the publics desire for national renewal in 2008, with a reviled incumbent in the White House and only 19 percent of the population finding the country on the right track, according to the last Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll. America is screaming for change. Either of the two Democratic contenders will swing the pendulum. Their marginal policy differences notwithstanding, they are both orthodox liberals. As the partys voters in 22 states step forward on Tuesday, the overriding question they face, as defined by both contenders, is this: Which brand of change is more likely, in Kennedys phrase, to get America moving again? Lost in the hoopla over the Teddy and Caroline Kennedy show last week was the parallel endorsement of Hillary Clinton by three of Robert Kennedys children. In a Los Angeles Times op-ed article, they answered this paramount question as many Clinton supporters do (and as many John Edwards supporters also did). The loftiest poetry wont solve Americas crises, they wrote. Change can be achieved only by a president willing to engage in a fistfight. That both Clintons are capable of fistfighting is beyond doubt, at least on their own behalf in a campaign. But Mrs. Clinton isnt always a fistfighter when governing. Theres a reason why Robert Kennedys children buried the Iraq war in a single clause (and never used the word Iraq) deep in their endorsement. They know that their uncle Teddy, unlike Mrs. Clinton, raised his fists to lead the Senate fight against the Iraq misadventure at the start. They know too that less than six months after Mission Accomplished, Senator Kennedy called
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought
- Original Message - From: Ben Gilberti To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought This is just a very tiny insight. What is not a thought? What's more real than thought? Now don't get excited, this insight is very tiny. Consider this. 2+2=4 Is that a thought? Here's the thing. You clearly can have the thought 2+2=4, that's obvious. BUT IT'S NOT JUST A THOUGHT!The only reason that the thought 2+2=4 is of any interest is because IT REPRESENTS A PRINCIPLE! A principle is a thought as well. And by the way: The proof for 2+2 being 4 is depending on your underlying principles (axiomatics). And these are just thoughts :-). And 2+2 can also be more, if you look from the point of view of quality (see Maharishi effect as best example). The principle is that if you put together two of anything twice you going to ALWAYS get four. The reason why that principle is not a thought, even though you can only think of it AS a thought, is because that principle is ALWAYS TRUE regardless of whether anyone thinks it or not. Nothing can be true without having been thought. The moment you do not think it, it is just not there, not existing. And it's true at all times, in all places, and under all conditions. That is a postulate but not a truth as such. A truth is always relative, depending of preceding prerequisites. If it was absolute it would not be a truth. So it's a universal principle. And it would still be true even if everyone in the universe was convinced that 2+2=5. Wouldn't matter. The principle would still be just as true. This is not a proper argument. The universality of a principle is not dependent on a wrong or false believe. It is dependent on raised theories, which can be either verified or falsified. But if you think they would be true, then this is just a believe. Like I say, it's tiny. But it may have enormous implications. It would mean that LIFE is intimately connected with universal principle. Seems to be the case. Now consider this. All the protons, neutrons, electrons and all the stuff those fellas do, are are all described by mathematical principles that define all their characteristics. In fact some Physicists say that they're only occasions of characteristics themselves, or in other words, only occasions of principle. Principle that was just as real in the middle ages when no one had any THOUGHTS about it, principle that is no more real now that 834 Atomic Physicists are thinking thoughts about it all the time. It may have been real, but that is our thought. Therefore a principle is a thought :-). So what, Ben? Just like principle is beyond all thought, Life is beyond all your insights. Life isn't something to understand, you hopeless egghead; Life is something to be experienced. I do not know, what the egg-head said, but he is right: Life is insight, life is thought, life is experience, these are all aspects or variations of the same principle, which again can manifest as an insight, a thought or an experience. Ok, well then, how can one EXPERIENCE PRINCIPLE? Can you guess what the Ultimate Universal Principle would be? GOD! Maybe God's not only that, but He surely is that at least! It's you, that is God. And how do we experience God? Thy will be done! Sounds a bit spacy. And now wait till you hear this! First listen to these guys, David Swarup Jeff Hijlkema, playing music by just listening to God, not knowing what they're going to play till they play it. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=116913507blogID=349306059 So they are listening to themselves, otherwise I personally would like to get name, address, mobile-and social security numbers of this GOD. No, come on now, take three minutes to listen to that, just click on it, and then listen. (pause) Now remember what they said about how they played? an amazing acoustic and a magic improvisation -- we did not say a word..it came to us in the moment from the beginning till the end! Thanks up there!:):):):) That's the way how inspiration or music should function. This is what we're all after, to be Life-inspired in every moment, in all we do. A new revelation or recognition ? I've noticed it beginning to happen in some things between me and Mary; and in some emails I write, not anything I post as yet, just one on one emails, when I don't think, I just write, and it's perfect for it's purpose, and I know if I gave it any thought I would never have written what I did. This is a poetical description of how thoughts may function but this is not a science-theoretically or philosophically appropriate consideration. The same way as if you stated, that Pizza would be no food for you even though it obvioulsy would seem to be
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, jstein@ writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. This is too ridiculous to even deserve a comment. I've referred to Dixon's similar comments as: 'The continuing empty rhetoric of a hopeless willfully blind passenger on the freaky leaky right wing GOP sinking ship.'
[FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence Demo
A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence going bonkers in Rishikesh under the care of MMY. http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
[FairfieldLife] ' Ugly Man ' by Rickie Lee Jones
Excellent tune. Ugly men. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUFWNg8OBII
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
Robert wrote: ...the moral decay, He balances a succinct discussion of each school's philosophy with the personal and moral (or, often, immoral) practices of its gurus. - David Marshall 'World of the Gurus' by Vishal Mangalwadi Cornerstone Press, Chicago, 1992 http://tinyurl.com/2udnsb apathy; Why Babaji, won't you put the pipe down, stand up and fight to save the children? 'The Fighting Ascetics of India' by J.N. Farquhar University press, 1925 Fortified Temple of Fighting Ascetics: http://tinyurl.com/2v82ze
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence going bonkers in Rishikesh under the care of MMY. http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684 Excellent! John is so sarcastic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:17:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should either one of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and neither side is going to work with the other. What makes you think Hillary can do any better of a job than Obama pushing thru an agenda if the opposition is determined to see the President fail? Because she at least knows what she'd be up against; she's been fighting these people for a long time. Obama just doesn't have a clue. Well maybe if somebody else were to scream there is a right wing conspiracy against me somebody might believe them. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:18:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the Democrats just do as they please if Obama is elected? The socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution of wealth, with higher energy costs, Don't forget universal health care. along with an erosion of the Bill of Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's opposition. Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution back together again after its merciless shredding by the Bush administration. Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. This is too ridiculous to even deserve a comment. Thank you, you just did. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure. That's what I thought too... ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me. If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one country only very soon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Is Not A Thought
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Ben Gilberti To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought This is just a very tiny insight. What is not a thought? What's more real than thought? Now don't get excited, this insight is very tiny. Consider this. 2+2=4 Is that a thought? Here's the thing. You clearly can have the thought 2+2=4, that's obvious. BUT IT'S NOT JUST A THOUGHT!The only reason that the thought 2+2=4 is of any interest is because IT REPRESENTS A PRINCIPLE! A principle is a thought as well. And by the way: The proof for 2+2 being 4 is depending on your underlying principles (axiomatics). And these are just thoughts :-). And 2+2 can also be more, if you look from the point of view of quality (see Maharishi effect as best example). The principle is that if you put together two of anything twice you going to ALWAYS get four. The reason why that principle is not a thought, even though you can only think of it AS a thought, is because that principle is ALWAYS TRUE regardless of whether anyone thinks it or not. Nothing can be true without having been thought. The moment you do not think it, it is just not there, not existing. And it's true at all times, in all places, and under all conditions. That is a postulate but not a truth as such. A truth is always relative, depending of preceding prerequisites. If it was absolute it would not be a truth. So it's a universal principle. And it would still be true even if everyone in the universe was convinced that 2+2=5. Wouldn't matter. The principle would still be just as true. This is not a proper argument. The universality of a principle is not dependent on a wrong or false believe. It is dependent on raised theories, which can be either verified or falsified. But if you think they would be true, then this is just a believe. Like I say, it's tiny. But it may have enormous implications. It would mean that LIFE is intimately connected with universal principle. Seems to be the case. Now consider this. All the protons, neutrons, electrons and all the stuff those fellas do, are are all described by mathematical principles that define all their characteristics. In fact some Physicists say that they're only occasions of characteristics themselves, or in other words, only occasions of principle. Principle that was just as real in the middle ages when no one had any THOUGHTS about it, principle that is no more real now that 834 Atomic Physicists are thinking thoughts about it all the time. It may have been real, but that is our thought. Therefore a principle is a thought :-). So what, Ben? Just like principle is beyond all thought, Life is beyond all your insights. Life isn't something to understand, you hopeless egghead; Life is something to be experienced. I do not know, what the egg-head said, but he is right: Life is insight, life is thought, life is experience, these are all aspects or variations of the same principle, which again can manifest as an insight, a thought or an experience. Ok, well then, how can one EXPERIENCE PRINCIPLE? Can you guess what the Ultimate Universal Principle would be? GOD! Maybe God's not only that, but He surely is that at least! It's you, that is God. And how do we experience God? Thy will be done! Sounds a bit spacy. And now wait till you hear this! First listen to these guys, David Swarup Jeff Hijlkema, playing music by just listening to God, not knowing what they're going to play till they play it. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=116913507blogID=349306059 So they are listening to themselves, otherwise I personally would like to get name, address, mobile-and social security numbers of this GOD. No, come on now, take three minutes to listen to that, just click on it, and then listen. (pause) Now remember what they said about how they played? an amazing acoustic and a magic improvisation -- we did not say a word..it came to us in the moment from the beginning till the end! Thanks up there!:):):):) That's the way how inspiration or music should function. This is what we're all after, to be Life-inspired in every moment, in all we do. A new revelation or recognition ? I've noticed it beginning to happen in some things between me and Mary; and in some emails I write, not anything I post as yet, just one on one emails, when I don't think, I just write, and it's perfect for it's purpose, and I know if I gave it any thought I would never have written what I did. This is a poetical description of how thoughts may function but this is not a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo
Vaj, thanks for that; what a nice version of a great song. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence going bonkers in Rishikesh under the care of MMY. http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. It's not like Maharishi made a big deal about it -- he wasn't pushing it, but it was in there -- perhaps as an aside thought. I don't have a copy with me, and I'm not going to buy one, so you'll have to read the whole thing and report back to us if you want to score a point. Why the squabble? We all know how religious the movement has always been -- usually covert but always there. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Americas choice, by the Master
America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Share International Magazine, November 2004 http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence going bonkers in Rishikesh under the care of MMY. http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684 Excellent! John is so sarcastic. and John's dead now -- I'm thinking obvious conspiracy by Maharishi and the TMO -- don'cha SEE it!?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me. If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one country only very soon. Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services for free? What countries might those be? Certainly not the TM org. Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense. But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans. The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it? It really is about the money in the end, and he isn't American.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
Why doesn't he just say, Vote Democratic? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Share International Magazine, November 2004 http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else. NOT On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point. I guess we're getting a second chance. Or is it a third chance, or maybe a fourth. Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new admininstration, I think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach. Unless of course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will happen. (please don't include me in this. The Art Bell crowd have predicted this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at least) Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. A familiar theme. But never under estimate the power of the gun. Not as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short term, it can be quite persuasive. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large undisputed public appearance. You know, the appearance which has been promised for as long as you've been posting. The one which will be made in the very near future, when the world is ready Share International Magazine, November 2004 http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why doesn't he just say, Vote Democratic? Same reason Maharishi doesn't use short sentences when he's telling *his* followers what to think and what to do. If, like them, you're paying big bucks to have someone run your life, you want it done in as many words as possible. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Share International Magazine, November 2004 http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Angels in SBAL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1.on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2.on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3.on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... Beautiful !
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me. If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one country only very soon. Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services for free? What countries might those be? Certainly not the TM org. I’m pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else. NOT On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point. I guess we're getting a second chance. Or is it a third chance, or maybe a fourth. Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new admininstration, I think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach. Unless of course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will happen. (please don't include me in this. The Art Bell crowd have predicted this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at least) Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. A familiar theme. But never under estimate the power of the gun. Not as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short term, it can be quite persuasive. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large undisputed public appearance. You know, the appearance which has been promised for as long as you've been posting. The one which will be made in the very near future, when the world is ready Are you reffering to The Day of Declaration when Maitreya will present His credidentials ? As we speak He is appearing to people and groups around the world on an almost daily basis, without revealing His nature. Cosmic timing is not an easy matter to understand. All I know is that this near future (Day of Declaration) means in generation. Regarding your other comments; this was, as you see below, an article prior to the last election - which was rigged by the way. Share International Magazine, November 2004 http://www.shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at the London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: This fellow just wants the fees for himself, thats all there is to it. What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems like a sensible business model to me. If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one country only very soon. Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services for free? What countries might those be? Certainly not the TM org. I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free. Things have changed in the USA since then. But it was a beautiful show of how altruistic the americans can be at their best, if it was not just a plot to keep Berlin as a strategic part of the USA zone. Same can be said of the Marshall-plan though I see more of a higher thinking behind that endeavor.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you reffering to The Day of Declaration when Maitreya will present His credidentials ? As we speak He is appearing to people and groups around the world on an almost daily basis, without revealing His nature. Cosmic timing is not an easy matter to understand. All I know is that this near future (Day of Declaration) means in generation. Okay. Fair enough
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of Duveyoung Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. Found on Amazon.com: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: America's choice by the Master , through Benjamin Creme When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have the opportunity to change the course of history. Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else. NOT On their decision largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources of their country to create that trust. The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a choice? I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point. I guess we're getting a second chance. Or is it a third chance, or maybe a fourth. Beleaguered As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace- loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new admininstration, I think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach. Unless of course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will happen. (please don't include me in this. The Art Bell crowd have predicted this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at least) Canker Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must awaken to this main source of tension and terror. Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the people of Earth. A familiar theme. But never under estimate the power of the gun. Not as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short term, it can be quite persuasive. We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this world. This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace. Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large undisputed public appearance. You know, the appearance which has been promised for as long as you've been posting. The one which will be made in the very near future, when the world is ready. Q.Is there any specific date for Maitreya's appearance? A. Most people imagine that world events (and the coming of a World Teacher is certainly a world event) take place according to precise dates. They imagine that all Hierarchical decisions are designed for dates written in stone. This is assuredly not the case. The Masters predict certain happenings to take place around a certain time but They know that humanity has freewill and therefore has an enormous influence on the precise timing of a given event. The Masters work in 2,000 year cycles, so for Them really precise timing is not a major consideration. No one knows the exact date on which Maitreya will take up His open work but everyone can understand that it is very, very soon. Since Maitreya will not at first reveal His name and status the onus is on each one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. In this way people will be recognising the expression of
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. Generally, when I hear words like socialist and agenda I tune out. But . . . Higher taxes: This doesn't have anything to do with your party affiliation. If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up. The republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the taxes. If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay for the prior republican spending. Redistribution of wealth. This occurs all the time. We have a social contract. We are in this country together. The constitution gives power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general welfare. We tax for roads and other infrastructure. We tax for defense. We tax for education. We tax for social security. What makes universal health care any different? We provide it through Medicare to the elderly. Why not everyone? It isn't like people are going to lose their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars. Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech? Ha! Show me. Don't forget that the federal government is not allowed to support a particular religion or any religion. Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is probably why we haven't got very far on gun control. However, you reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly legal to put some restrictions on gun ownership. Though I would agree with people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, which has led to many needless arguments.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Maitreya will not at first reveal His name and status the onus is on each one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. In this way people will be recognising the expression of their aspiration for the future of humanity, rather than simply following `The Teacher'. Share International Magazine, April 2007 Nab, you know I love ya like a brother, and I find myself sympathetic to many of Benjamen Creme's sentiiments, but the above, kinda reminds me of the ol, if the initiators were more pure in their lives, the world plan would be further along, or, the teachers are not doing enough to bring about the age of enlightenment type thing. Not really resonating with me anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish. Yeah that sounds right. We are all too childish for Jim. You are having quite a Sunday aren't ya Nabby? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. My mistake, sorry. Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes. I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? He (and a couple others I believe) found it necessary to disparage Edg for his recollection of angels, and gods, or god in the SBAE implying that his recollection was faulty, or false. At least that was the impression I got.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Judy, Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports about the SBAL must necessarily be erroneous or disinformantionally skewed. You know, his typical slander-tool. Knob said: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to spiritual vampires for sure. ;-) My immediate comment: I would have and have used the word demons not devils; 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written about; and, Yes, I do think I've used the term spiritual vampires -- trolls like Knob are exactly such. What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus on that aspect? Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper? Do you rant at the kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his excellent healthy action? The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere. I seldom have the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits. And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Oops, I meant to say: 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that ONLY I have written about; Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports about the SBAL must necessarily be erroneous or disinformantionally skewed. You know, his typical slander-tool. Knob said: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to spiritual vampires for sure. ;-) My immediate comment: I would have and have used the word demons not devils; 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written about; and, Yes, I do think I've used the term spiritual vampires -- trolls like Knob are exactly such. What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus on that aspect? Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper? Do you rant at the kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his excellent healthy action? The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere. I seldom have the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits. And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj, thanks for that; what a nice version of a great song. Jerry Garcia Band was one band that did cover versions that I always liked better than the originals. JGB's version of Dear Prudence is my fave. I still like the original, though, which is not the case with Tangled Up in Blue. Dylan's voice makes my flesh crawl, but JGB's cover of TUIB is teh awesome! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence going bonkers in Rishikesh under the care of MMY. http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. Generally, when I hear words like socialist and agenda I tune out. But . . . Higher taxes: This doesn't have anything to do with your party affiliation. If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up. The republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the taxes. If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay for the prior republican spending. Redistribution of wealth. This occurs all the time. We have a social contract. We are in this country together. The constitution gives power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general welfare. We tax for roads and other infrastructure. We tax for defense. We tax for education. We tax for social security. What makes universal health care any different? We provide it through Medicare to the elderly. Why not everyone? It isn't like people are going to lose their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars. Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech? Ha! Show me. Don't forget that the federal government is not allowed to support a particular religion or any religion. Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is probably why we haven't got very far on gun control. However, you reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly legal to put some restrictions on gun ownership. Though I would agree with people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, which has led to many needless arguments. Honest, sober, insightful and in my view, accurate commentary. Refreshing! Thanks for that, 'ruthsimplicity'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. Close enough for government work
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. My mistake, sorry. Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes. I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Since Maitreya will not at first reveal His name and status the onus is on each one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. In this way people will be recognising the expression of their aspiration for the future of humanity, rather than simply following `The Teacher'. Share International Magazine, April 2007 Nab, you know I love ya like a brother, and I find myself sympathetic to many of Benjamen Creme's sentiiments, but the above, kinda reminds me of the ol, if the initiators were more pure in their lives, the world plan would be further along, or, the teachers are not doing enough to bring about the age of enlightenment type thing. Not really resonating with me anymore. Maitreya will during His first public apperances not be known for who He really is, that will come later at what has been called the Day of Declaration. What Creme is saying here is simply that during this period the people will have to descide for themselves regarding wether His suggestions are wise or not. Based on what He says, not based on wether or not they know that he is a savior, The Teacher or Maitreya the Christ himself. Makes sense to me that descisions are collectively made from levels of deeper, altruistic aspirations, not on the level of following some kind of leader. Very down to earth kind of thinking, very Benjamin Creme and Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Edg SBAL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg I'm sorry if I insulted you Edg, got carried away by your anti TM- rant. Sorry again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Edg SBAL
Nablusoss, You just went up a notch in my book. I bow. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg I'm sorry if I insulted you Edg, got carried away by your anti TM- rant. Sorry again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free. I'm quite certain that Nabby is actually Norwegian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
Ruth, excellent response and post. I disagree only with your 2d Amend. analysis. Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the individual, rather than the government militia. In my read that's exactly what it states. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered by the laws of the new republic. It was assumed that eventually any government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last resorts to Tyranny. The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says. Though that's just the way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing. I think the Supremes have a 2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been following it. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and the attempts to restrict gun ownership. Generally, when I hear words like socialist and agenda I tune out. But . . . Higher taxes: This doesn't have anything to do with your party affiliation. If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up. The republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the taxes. If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay for the prior republican spending. Redistribution of wealth. This occurs all the time. We have a social contract. We are in this country together. The constitution gives power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general welfare. We tax for roads and other infrastructure. We tax for defense. We tax for education. We tax for social security. What makes universal health care any different? We provide it through Medicare to the elderly. Why not everyone? It isn't like people are going to lose their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars. Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech? Ha! Show me. Don't forget that the federal government is not allowed to support a particular religion or any religion. Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is probably why we haven't got very far on gun control. However, you reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly legal to put some restrictions on gun ownership. Though I would agree with people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, which has led to many needless arguments.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free. I'm quite certain that Nabby is actually Norwegian. Are you getting that from his IP number? Care to solve the mystery for us, Nabsters? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruth, excellent response and post. I disagree only with your 2d Amend. analysis. Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the individual, rather than the government militia. In my read that's exactly what it states. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered by the laws of the new republic. It was assumed that eventually any government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last resorts to Tyranny. There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military. The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says. Though that's just the way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing. I think the Supremes have a 2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been following it. Marek
[FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card
Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card to their PC, and can they recommend a brand? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense. But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans. The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it? It really is about the money in the end, and he isn't American. Maharishi has no pockets. The real beef is not about money but honesty. Thom Knoles, Guru: Born of american parents. Course fee Mastering the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted. Others seems to be mainly aussies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre
Maharishi has no pockets. somehow that line sounds so much cuter when MMY works it. Might only fly surrounded by giggles. Lately I've been keeping all my money in bank accounts cuz it was pulling my pants down so far I was either gunna have to switch to singing Hip Hop, or get me some farmer overalls just to keep them up. I wonder if MMY switched to bank accounts when the cash started weighing his dhoti down? The real beef is not about money but honesty. Yes I agree, which is why I always found MMY's attempt at that dodge to be offensive in a don't try to play me, fool sorta way. Thom Knoles, Guru: Born of american parents. Course fee Mastering the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted. Others seems to be mainly aussies. I think well see a lot more of this in the near future. There is a market for a non Raja governed meditation. But fortunately we have MMY's own words to guide us in this matter: Competition is for the competent. And they're off...Bevan's huffing and puffing, sweating profusely, Tony trips over his Raja gown and OMG BREAKS his nose! That's gotta hurt folks, I guess it's back to the Shnozz Salon for King Tony. I'll just skip to the end where ANYBODY who offers a simple, natural, mental technique to relax for a reasonable price, wins easily. The public is probably not gunna go for the enlightenment enhanced package one more time. Not unless a whole generation of kids decide to all drop acid again. So far Ecstasy just seems to make them want to dance and make out rather than follow a guru to the promised land. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense. But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans. The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it? It really is about the money in the end, and he isn't American. Maharishi has no pockets. The real beef is not about money but honesty. Thom Knoles, Guru: Born of american parents. Course fee Mastering the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted. Others seems to be mainly aussies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense. But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans. The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it? It really is about the money in the end, and he isn't American. Maharishi has no pockets. The real beef is not about money but honesty. Thom Knoles, Guru: Born of american parents. Course fee Mastering the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted. Actually it is taught in 6 instalments, with a total of USD 6000.- Others seems to be mainly aussies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre
http://people.tribe.net/playagirl/blog/9a8f7c95-72f8-4f8e-9c27-5c5564f63f2b You know what Nabby? I think we might be able to share some hater-aid with you over this guy. I'll bet he's cutting into Ravi's business. That name sounds so familiar. One of us must know this guy. Meditation is the new MDMA, without the side effects. For thirty-five years, the delightful Thom Knoles has traveled the world, initiating people into the sacred practice of meditation. He spends most of his time in India, Australia, and the United States. Thom has been an adviser to Presidents, run seminars with Deepak Chopra (and others) and is a consultant to a select group of billionaires. Thom is arguably the most knowledgeable meditation teacher on the planet, having taught over ten thousand people from all walks of life. The ancient wisdom of the Vedas (Indian system for attaining enlightenment) and the complexities of modern day science are combined and communicated by Thom in a fun and easy to understand manner On the theme of psychology, physics and quantum-mechanics, Thom gives mind altering answers to virtually every question; put simply, the guy's a genius. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense. But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans. The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it? It really is about the money in the end, and he isn't American. Maharishi has no pockets. The real beef is not about money but honesty. Thom Knoles, Guru: Born of american parents. Course fee Mastering the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted. Actually it is taught in 6 instalments, with a total of USD 6000.- Others seems to be mainly aussies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card
Rick Archer wrote: Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card to their PC, and can they recommend a brand? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM I use the Fusion 5 Gold card from DVICO (now discontinued because they have newer models) which works well. The only thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't save the files as regular transport streams (ts) but instead a stream that requires conversion since they don't play readily on my networked player. http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/ I ordered mine through Digital Connection: http://www.digitalconnection.com/ You can also look on the AVSForum's home theater PC section for other recommendations or experiences since there are a number of companies that make cards: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Bill Clinton Finds His Voice, Today'
Nice sermon Bill gave at church this morning... Very humble, gracious and charming. He said that he was torn between his dream, Of voting for a black man, or a woman... But he of course thought, Hillary is the best. He said that if he or Hillary died today, That both of them feel they would have left this world, With having accomplished a lot. He said that he is not against anybody. Bill seems to still have the touch, When he's less aggressive, and more from the heart. He actually had me believing him. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre HYPERLINK http://people.tribe.net/playagirl/blog/9a8f7c95-72f8-4f8e-9c27-5c5564f63f2b http://people.tribe.net/playagirl/blog/9a8f7c95-72f8-4f8e-9c27-5c5564f63f2b You know what Nabby? I think we might be able to share some hater-aid with you over this guy. I'll bet he's cutting into Ravi's business. That name sounds so familiar. One of us must know this guy. I remember him vaguely. I think he and his wife Kathy used to be the national leaders of the TMO in Australia. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Ruth, excellent response and post. I disagree only with your 2d Amend. analysis. Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the individual, rather than the government militia. In my read that's exactly what it states. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered by the laws of the new republic. It was assumed that eventually any government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last resorts to Tyranny. There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military. ++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously, the government hasn't been. Also, think Blackhawk down or Afgans knocking off choppers with small arms. In the forties, Japan observed that it would a disaster to attack the US mainland where most of the citizens were armed- that being one of the reasons for being armed in the first place. The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says. Though that's just the way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing. I think the Supremes have a 2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been following it. Marek ++ the DC gun ban was struck down by a local court and is now on appeal however, seeing the serious implications of a ruling either way, they might just make a ruling only to apply in DC.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Judy wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. So, it has been established that Maharishi doesn't actually talk about the gods in SBAL, except in one single instance refering to gods, plural. Maharishi doesn't actualy name any of the gods and he doesn't seem to talk much about any angels either. Would there be any angels in Hinduism to talk about, in any case? But I wonder why Maharishi didn't mention the yakshis or the asparsas in SBAL. Which just goes to prove that, contrary to what Edg implied, Maharishi didn't talk much about religion, gods, angels or demons when he composed SBAL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Ruth, excellent response and post. I disagree only with your 2d Amend. analysis. Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the individual, rather than the government militia. In my read that's exactly what it states. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered by the laws of the new republic. It was assumed that eventually any government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last resorts to Tyranny. There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military. ++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously, the government hasn't been. Then why do you need a 'militia' if you trust the US Military to uphold the constitution? And how do you expect a 'militia' to stand up the the US Military if it doesn't? Also, think Blackhawk down or Afgans knocking off choppers with small arms. In the forties, Japan observed that it would a disaster to attack the US mainland where most of the citizens were armed- that being one of the reasons for being armed in the first place. Get realistic. Without the US Military, the US would have been no match for the Japanese military. The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says. Though that's just the way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing. I think the Supremes have a 2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been following it. Marek ++ the DC gun ban was struck down by a local court and is now on appeal however, seeing the serious implications of a ruling either way, they might just make a ruling only to apply in DC.
[FairfieldLife] MEDITATION TIME WITH GEORGE HARRISON
MEDITATION TIME WITH GEORGE HARRISON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgv-g0p7ujI
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered by the laws of the new republic. It was assumed that eventually any government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last resorts to Tyranny. There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military. ++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously, the government hasn't been. Then why do you need a 'militia' if you trust the US Military to uphold the constitution? And how do you expect a 'militia' to stand up the the US Military if it doesn't? snip Get realistic. Without the US Military, the US would have been no match for the Japanese military. I don't know if the Japaneese or German war machine was larger but the German takeover in Europe bypassed Switzerland which is a relatively small country where I believe, at the time, it was mandatory that all citizens be armed. It seems to be a positive factor as they haven't had any sign of a war in their country since before America was discovered.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military. Well, the Iraquis have been doing a bang-up job of pretending otherwise...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free. ** The Americans didn't give a damn about the Krauts, who they burned, men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the pointless firebombing of German cities in WWII. The Berlin Air Lift was not a humanitarian gesture, but an attempt to keep the Russkis from taking over more of Germany as their exclusive military outpost (rather than the Americans keeping their many bases in Germany). http://tinyurl.com/2d4hy6
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
Ruth wrote: It isn't like people are going to lose their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars. They might if they don't need any health care or if they are forced to buy government health care when they don't need it. Why should young people be forced to pay for the health care of older people? It doesn't make any sense. It's a crazy ponzi scheme just like Social Security. There is an analogy between the compulsory aspects of the candidates' health care proposals and Social Security. A young man or woman would be crazy to participate in the Social Security system if he or she had any choice. If anyone saved 12.4% of his earnings over a lifetime, he would not only have far more money in retirement than Social Security can provide, it would, equally important, be his money, to invest and dispose of as he sees fit. But the government needs young people's money to support their grandparents' retirements, so Social Security is forced upon them. The same thing, in essence, will happen with health care if any comprehensive reform plan is adopted. Read more: 'Forcing Young People Into the System' Posted by John Hinderaker: Powerline, February 3, 2008 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/02/019711.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...
Judy wrote: Obama just doesn't have a clue. Barack Obama claims he's putting together a coalition more diverse than any we've seen for a long time. His close association with an anti-Semitic pastor and his use of at least one virulently anti-Israeli adviser suggest that, at root, his coaltion isn't as diverse as it might be. Read more: 'Soft Power' Posted by Paul Mirengoff: Powerline, February 2, 2008 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/02/019701.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruth wrote: It isn't like people are going to lose their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars. They might if they don't need any health care or if they are forced to buy government health care when they don't need it. Why should young people be forced to pay for the health care of older people? It doesn't make any sense. It's a crazy ponzi scheme just like Social Security. There is an analogy between the compulsory aspects of the candidates' health care proposals and Social Security. A young man or woman would be crazy to participate in the Social Security system if he or she had any choice. If anyone saved 12.4% of his earnings over a lifetime, he would not only have far more money in retirement than Social Security can provide, it would, equally important, be his money, to invest and dispose of as he sees fit. But the government needs young people's money to support their grandparents' retirements, so Social Security is forced upon them. The same thing, in essence, will happen with health care if any comprehensive reform plan is adopted. snip Hard to know what to think about the SS figures- it looks like a chain letter really but some of the figures are curious. When I started working, I was making a little over 100 a week(quite a while back) now, on SS I receive bout 250 a week but the money has lost so much value that it is the equivalent of nearer 25 so is it coming out even? 5.00 used to more than fill anyones gas tank where now 50.00 will hardly do it- money has really depreciated.
[FairfieldLife] secular organization to teach TM is spiritual suicide
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. So, it has been established that Maharishi doesn't actually talk about the gods in SBAL, except in one single instance refering to gods, plural. Maharishi doesn't actualy name any of the gods and he doesn't seem to talk much about any angels either. Would there be any angels in Hinduism to talk about, in any case? But I wonder why Maharishi didn't mention the yakshis or the asparsas in SBAL. Which just goes to prove that, contrary to what Edg implied, Maharishi didn't talk much about religion, gods, angels or demons when he composed SBAL. Bingo !
