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Dear Jason, My disciples are right after all Everyone except Ravi guru is faking on batgap.com I have watched everyone of you and you can't deceive me... I have left the group Budhha at the gas pump, but they are genuine spiritual aspirants like all of you. They can deceive everyone else but not Ravi guru and his disciples - the battle scarred veterans !!! Yaay to Guru Ravi and his disciples for exposing the charlatans ! Love - Ravi.___
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Sal Sunshine wrote: Thank goodness this guy's in Fresno. Sal Fresno to San Francisco would be one helluva commute. Fremont to SF is bad enough.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:08 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Yep, bringing him over here sure is a great advertisement for BATGAP, Rick. :) No offense, but I don't think this was one of your better ideas. Sal Wasn't this Rick's attempt to reach out towards other spiritual groups for their 'awakened'? I'll stick with the other old TM'ers thank you. Check out Sandra Glickman: http://batgap.com/sandra-glickman/ No TM background. Others to follow.
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Dear everyone, Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and turqoise retard from his Amma days. He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner, shukra69 for a snack...LOL He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He was rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally. He didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and disciple. Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi Chivukula..:-). His life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to threaten and harass masters, he learnt from them. When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will not sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells the wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi Chivukula. Love - Ravi On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:19 PM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:
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The irony is that the Ravi Chivukula, the thug became the lover...:-), he loves everyone now..but recognize a thug from a wussy. Ravi Chivukula loves the true spiritual thugs because they are the future lovers...but will smell and hunt down wussies, idiots and retards...LOL... You know who Ravi Chivukula is, he has a face, a family, a Guru, you know where he lives and works, Fremont and San Francisco, his life is an open book...he will come to Iowa when his Guru comes so people can meet him and his family. He will give his love and blessings to anyone who is open and interested. Do you know anything about your wussies, the retards, the idiots posing as spiritual thugs??? Ravi Chivukula has a special quality, his life of a thug converted lover doesn't match his Gurus, he has his unique style which is very different from his Gurus, he doesn't copy anyone, though he is in gratitude to his Gurus. The retards will use quotations from all over the place and will easily expose themselves as retarded because they can't compete with Ravi Chivukula..:-)because they are in a hurry to prove themselves to be thugs...LOL. Ravi is relaxed, patient..he is a hunter...of idiots, retards, wussieshe has done that all his life...never tolerated medocrity:-) Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear everyone, Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and turqoise retard from his Amma days. He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner, shukra69 for a snack...LOL He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He was rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally. He didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and disciple. Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi Chivukula..:-). His life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to threaten and harass masters, he learnt from them. When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will not sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells the wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi Chivukula. Love - Ravi
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Dear Edg, Yes !!! I am awake, just got up, I am singing a song trying to wake up my wife and kids, dancing, blissed out ready to take down these wussiesLOL Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ravi must be enlightened; look at Turq going nutzoid with unstressing about it. He's got Turq's number, and doesn't mind hanging him upside down in the public square and smacking Turq the Jerk around like it was Benito Mussolini's last moments. And yeah, Turq came out of the chute with horns sharpened -- that's a tell that he's still looking for outer embodiments to rail upon because his other spiritual rapists are dead now. Poor Turq -- how can anyone stand the pain of being handcuffed to such a personality? I guess masturbating while fantasizing about lacing some young thing's drink with Ambien is as good as life gets for him now. Edg
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Did I refer to myself in the 3rd person, Alex...:-), 3rd person is only for retards. Never for Alex Stanley !!! If I say - Dear Alex I love you too, would that make you happy? I will never use 3rd person with you or anyone who hates it. Just let me know. My focus is on the other, not myself. I hope you will discern and understand the difference, the retards are focussed on themselves, awakened on the other since all my karmas are finished. I have nothing left to achieve, I'm just having fun and a blast. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Alex Stanley is a person who is weirded out by people who refer to themselves in the third person. ___
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On May 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: We have not had fun like this for a long time. Let's enjoy it while it lasts. Exactamundo! My point that I was trying to make (badly) in my second-to-last post Sal
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On May 18, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and turqoise retard from his Amma days. He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner, shukra69 for a snack...LOL Bon appetit. :) He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He was rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally. He didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and disciple. Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi Chivukula..:-). His life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to threaten and harass masters, he learnt from them. When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will not sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells the wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi Chivukula. True. In our nightmares. Sal
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Dear do.rflex You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage, authenticity, intelligence.LOL. I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-) My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props like my disciples. Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details, place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications? Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love... Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and authentic.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.
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I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage Bharadwaja, I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong samskaras of all my Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a Brahmin, not by birth but my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can read your energy. I was a Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my both boys are yogis. My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me at work. I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/chivukula.ravi, my email is chivukula.r...@gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com, available upon request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA What do you have? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear do.rflex You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage, authenticity, intelligence.LOL. I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-) My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props like my disciples. Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details, place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications? Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love... Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and authentic.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.
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Oops my interview soon at batgap.com/ravi-chivukula On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage Bharadwaja, I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong samskaras of all my Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a Brahmin, not by birth but my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can read your energy. I was a Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my both boys are yogis. My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me at work. I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/chivukula.ravi, my email is chivukula.r...@gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com, available upon request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA What do you have? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Dear do.rflex You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage, authenticity, intelligence.LOL. I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-) My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props like my disciples. Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details, place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications? Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love... Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and authentic.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.
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Funny you say this, you are open and can feel my energy and I like it. I got up this morning and my kid asked where and how I slept. I told him I'm a yogi, I don't sleep and have been target practicing all night long. I usually lie down 12 - 6 am watching my body rest and dream. I told him that I'm trying to shoot people who are taking aim at me and your dad is a sniper and he has been practicing shooting all night long..LOL.. For some reason a whole block of street was closed earlier this morning in Fremont, there was a SWAT team deployed. I was explaining to my kid how every SWAT team has an expert sniper to take down criminals who hold others hostage. I actually described it in precise detail and made the sign of a gun and shot with my hands.., funny how I used that analogy in the morning and here you are repeating it again..:-) OTOH there are no coincidences.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am just loving every bit of this. Let me say that Ravi Chivukula is a good listener. I think he picks up right away where people are coming from, although, I still say he misunderstood Tart. But if he shooting from the hip, I think his aim is pretty accurate.
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I will try, thank you very much for your concern and understanding. Getting tired of the stress of being a spiritual sniper...LOL, I'm at work though.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi. Oy. My suggegstion is that it is time to get back to your regular everyday job and follow the schedule and routine. _._,___
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On May 18, 2010, at 6:01 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: Funny you say this, you are open and can feel my energy and I like it. I got up this morning and my kid asked where and how I slept. I told him I'm a yogi, I don't sleep and have been target practicing all night long. I usually lie down 12 - 6 am watching my body rest and dream. I told him that I'm trying to shoot people who are taking aim at me and your dad is a sniper and he has been practicing shooting all night long..LOL.. For some reason a whole block of street was closed earlier this morning in Fremont, there was a SWAT team deployed. I was explaining to my kid how every SWAT team has an expert sniper to take down criminals who hold others hostage. I actually described it in precise detail and made the sign of a gun and shot with my hands.., funny how I used that analogy in the morning and here you are repeating it again..:-) OTOH there are no coincidences.. Love - Ravi. Ravi. Oy. My suggegstion is that it is time to get back to your regular everyday job and follow the schedule and routine. My suggestion is that he get back on his meds. Oy is right... Sal
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What kind of Sidhhis did Raman Maharishi demonstrate or was it just the imagination of devotees? I always laughed at anyone who said they had Ammachi in their dreams and made them do x, y or z. I would say it is just imagination, I have had Amma in my dreams and so...what then? I wouldn't be surprised if someone appears on this list that they had Ravi Guru in their dreams instructing them to abuse torky, sally and tartie for example..LOL..the power of imagination is such, oh what games we play to escape the truth staring at us constantly... Love - Ravi.. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: No evidence of Siddhis. imo, would-be Gurus should demonstrate an extraordinary level of Shakti power, appearing in people's dreams maybe. Even Dr. Lenz could do that.. I have yet to find a Guru who can do well in the stock market. Where's the Spiritual/material interface? At least Ravi seems to have a real job. The credits he cites amount to a beginning. Is he (you...if reading this) not on a learning curve like the rest of us? I recommend that you become a disciple of Ramana Maharshi, then teach from that perspective.
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I have:www.myspace.com/thearismusic From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 18 May, 2010 4:05:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage Bharadwaja, I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong samskaras of all my Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a Brahmin, not by birth but my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can read your energy. I was a Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my both boys are yogis. My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me at work. I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/ chivukula. ravi, my email is chivukula.ravi@ gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com, available upon request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA What do you have? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ gmail.com wrote: Dear do.rflex You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage, authenticity, intelligence. LOL. I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-) My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props like my disciples. Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details, place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications? Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon give me something to work with you, pleasee , I beg you. ..LOL you don't want to feel my love... Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and authentic.. Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo. com wrote: Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.
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Dear yifuxero piece of shit It doesn't matter what I say, you already are one of my bottom of the can idiotic retarded wannabe thuggie disciple...LOL..join the queue after torky, sally, tartie, shukri, freakybrain...you are the sixth... Ravi Chivukula is a hunter.:-) His eyes are hypnoticLOL.. You know how a lion catches its prey. It just locks its eyes with its prey - the minute the prey looks at the lion, it is frozen and all the lion has to do now is devour it. So you can run, you can hide, I will find you, look at you, hypnotize you, devour you and give you moksha... P.S. I make a 6 figure salary that you can only dream of..so you can come and lick my ass and I will pay you for that..LOL Love - Ravi. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:15 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: How about the Siddhi of controlled out of body travel. Can you do that? by dreams, this term represents an entry point into a broader topic, such as Yoga Nidra (complete awareness during the sleep states), and then going onto lucid dreams, precognitive dreams; and most important: the Radiant Form of the Master. Since Ammachi is your Guru, I take it you have seen Her Radiant Form. By that I mean not a mere dream, but a totally mind-blowing Radiant, effulgent, Celestial form that is Beautiful beyond discription. You keep on saying...no, no, I don't have these types of awarenesses that are common among the Tibetan Rinpoches (such as complete conscious awareness during the sleep states); and the capacity to Rise Above Bodily Consciousness, meeting up with various Spiritual Masters both living and physically dead. (the Siddhi common to genuine Sant Mat Saints). So, you have realized the Self. Everything is BeingOK; not a new message but an important one if one goes beyond the ordinary Neo-Advaitic message and states why such a realization is important (i.e. gives one some types of benefits). The next question would be why one would declare such as Self-attainment, if the achievement is only to end on the surface of your skin. (and thus, the need for hugging). I'm trying to grasp the situation here with BatGap but don't quite understand it. Bear with me a bit(to summarize), let's start from page 1: 1. Going back to Sakyamuni Buddha and others such as St. Paul, various claims are made: people can eliminate suffering and become happy if only they perform actions (a, b, c,...). OK, fine; but I don't see much evidence for such claims, especially coming from the MUM statistics, and the like. 2. Then, over the centuries, various people claim to have duplicated the efforts of the Buddha; only to recycle the old messages and claims. 3. Apart from some extremely rare cases such as Nityananda and various Christian Saints; given the set of Awakened people, the evidence seems to suggest that true Enlightenment goes beyond mere Awakening and indeed, the latter is ordinary in no extraordinary sense! (in that case, one might as well interview Vegas card cheaters for amusement). 4. Among the truly Awakened, some demonstrate genuine Siddhis, either in a deliberate fashion (Nityananda); or that occur spontaneously in the Presence of persons like Ramana Maharshi. Yet you make lite of such happenings apparently to proclaim your elevated status and lower theirs. At any rate, I applaud you for not asking for donations and not having much in the way of a concealed agenda. Maybe you can hit people for some $$ later on.
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On May 18, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear yifuxero piece of shit More fresh air, right lurk? :) What did we ever do without him... It doesn't matter what I say, you already are one of my bottom of the can idiotic retarded wannabe thuggie disciple...LOL..join the queue after torky, sally, tartie, shukri, freakybrain...you are the sixth... Ah, yes, the breezes wafting from his words are like the pure west wind... Ravi Chivukula is a hunter.:-) His eyes are hypnoticLOL.. You know how a lion catches its prey. It just locks its eyes with its prey - the minute the prey looks at the lion, it is frozen and all the lion has to do now is devour it. So you can run, you can hide, I will find you, look at you, hypnotize you, devour you and give you moksha... Now he's beginning to sound almost unhinged... P.S. I make a 6 figure salary that you can only dream of..so you can come and lick my ass and I will pay you for that..LOL Thank goodness this guy's in Fresno. Sal
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I love Jim..:-) On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Gawd, it's an Indian Jim Flanegin.
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What was Ravi doing just prior to the batgap.com Interview May 5, 2010 5:36 PM PT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLP3aU8WPrM May 5, 2010 5:42 PM PT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVMUw9V0uc Its easy to miss it - but Ravi clearly stated on batgap that he was not an intellectual, he was uncomfortable and had no knowledge of the TM terms, his path is of love, a sufi. Its only his Guru's grace that he is able to write and share all experiences. But he was accepted with love and understanding by everyone on batgap.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: I love Jim..:-) But I thought you loved your wife. And you've been telling her that she cannot possibly love two people at the same time -- you and Amma. So one of them's got to go, hotshot. You either love Jim and dump your wife, or love your wife and dump Jim. By your *own* standards, you can't do both. BTW, Jim is somewhat of a joke around here. In some people's views. I don't regard him that way. I have no problem liking him, you, Judy, and Nabby, each in different ways and for different reasons. The fact that you take him seriously makes you one, too.
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Yes you are right, I'm in total agreement here. It includes Amma too. My wife would love the whole world through my eyes and I would do the same through her eyes. There are several examples of this in Indian scriptures. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: It doesn't seem to encompass Amma. Or your wife's right to revere and see anyone she chooses to. Why aren't they included?
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TurquoiseB wrote: OK guys...you knew this was coming, right? :-) I am *such* a sucker for an opportunity to get funny (or at least the way I see 'funny'), so although I merely skimmed this post before, I think I'll have some fun with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: Hi everyone. I just joined the group at the request of Rick to address various questions that have arose. Its natural since I myself was confused and the true purpose and the future direction has been revealed to me since my initial awakening in November '09. Condescend much? I am happy for your initial wakening in November '09, although I don't see it having done much for you as a human being. But you said to ask questions, so I have a question about the above. One of the problems I had with the videos of the awakened on BatGap was at least the ones I saw were experiences somewhat removed from folks I met over the years especially outside the TM movement. I mentioned in that Jyotish thread the workshops and symposiums I attended where the were many such of these people who BTW didn't go around advertising they were awakened. Probably the best thing to do if one does feel they are enlightened is to shut up about it. Just let it play out in your life. It sometimes seems that some of the TM folks finally got a taste of shakti and thought it was enlightenment instead of a rung on the ladder there. OTOH, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying one has had a taste of enlightenment. But it is an ongoing experience with no end. IOW, as many seekers through the centuries have found, once you've think you've arrived you find a few days or weeks later there is more. ;-)
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences One of the problems I had with the videos of the awakened on BatGap was at least the ones I saw were experiences somewhat removed from folks I met over the years especially outside the TM movement. I mentioned in that Jyotish thread the workshops and symposiums I attended where the were many such of these people who BTW didn't go around advertising they were awakened. Probably the best thing to do if one does feel they are enlightened is to shut up about it. I'm only inviting those who say they've awakened permanently, so it's a selective group. And not all those whom I invite agree to an interview. Some do want to be private. Just let it play out in your life. It sometimes seems that some of the TM folks finally got a taste of shakti and thought it was enlightenment instead of a rung on the ladder there. OTOH, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying one has had a taste of enlightenment. But it is an ongoing experience with no end. IOW, as many seekers through the centuries have found, once you've think you've arrived you find a few days or weeks later there is more. ;-) I haven't listened to these interviews since I taped them, but in the last few days I've started doing so. Listen to interviews 3-6 and tell me if these folks don't sound permanently shifted.
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On May 17, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Very funny, yes I agree...I was expecting it as well. What would be a dog without the wagging of its tail - its so much in love with it. I'm a dog that has stopped wagging its tail and have become the master. The divine is trying very hard through me to make other dogs stop wagging their tails...LOL..but you have to accept that you are a dog first, that would be the first step. How can I work with someone who hasn't even come to that stage. I wouldn't waste any more of my time with you..:-) Getting a bit testy, are we Ravi? :) My, for someone who's awakened, you sure do seem to have gotten up on the wrong side of bed. Oh, yeah--one more thing. Woof. Sal
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I'm whoever you think I am, I can be testy, impatient, angry, loving, compassionate all the while in bliss..while dealing with stupid people I act stupid, while dealing with my kids I'm a father, while dealing dealing with my wife I'm a husband, while with my Amma an innocent child, so somehow my state of consciousness is undisturbed by idiots and fools like you..:-) I love fights with spiritual thugs because I love them too. and I'm always the winner since I know how to control the fight. I'm in bliss regardless of the side of the bed I get up from..:-), people like Sal and torquoise fascinated with your tails always get up on the side away from your tail..LOL.. And you now know if I will respond to your next post or not..:-) OMG I'm so glad Rick invited here, you guys are helping me stay rooted to my body so I can continue my fun for some time... On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: Getting a bit testy, are we Ravi? :) My, for someone who's awakened, you sure do seem to have gotten up on the wrong side of bed. Oh, yeah--one more thing. Woof. Sal __._,_.
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I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot Sal from there) like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get totally disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my responses there. Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife is very concerned since she wants me to be around forever. So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my body. I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my energy and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from conflict and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity. I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the conversation..LOL..
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Thanks Steve, anyone open will feel my energy like I said I don't anyone to copy my path. Steve is unique and has his own path to the divine, that is my story and I hope others will absorb the essence and reject anything that doesn't make sense to them. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:40 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That's great. I appreciate you sharing your story. It sounds very genuine, and it is your experience. So thank you for that.
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On May 17, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot Sal from there) No, it was another idiot, Rav. :) Never been an Amma devotee or posted on any of her chat groups. like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get totally disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my responses there. Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife is very concerned since she wants me to be around forever. Yes, it's perfectly obvious that your high conflict family has had no effect on you as an adult (I use that word loosely here) whatsoever. So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my body. I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my energy and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from conflict and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity. I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the conversation..LOL.. Which proves exactly how lacking in control you are, Rav. Anyone who has to keep getting the last word in has serious anger issues, not that there's anything wrong with that, of course... Sal
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A very good question. Since I work entirely with feeling people's energy, I cannot help society or global issues, ie I'm not a revolutionary. I get impatient with any kinds of political or any other ideology. I cannot think about anyone else who is not in my personal or virtual presence as this list..:-) I cannot indulge in gossip and even when some people start talking about someone who is not in my presence or some global issues such as offshore drilling I drift off. I only consider the person I'm dealing with. So I unfortunately can only work with individuals. But my prayers and blessings to the people of Bangladesh (just hoping that my prayers and blessings somehow translate to something useful there) Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:41 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: Does your Bliss state help people in Bangladesh? Just asking.
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Thank you Steve. I have always considered words to be totally inadequate in expressing my feelings. All my life I was trapped with an intense love for my beloved, my mother but was never able to express it. It was like my Amma says - honey trapped inside a rock. I struggled, hated myself, anger, bitter, resentful. I acted out always fighting defensively, lashing out at people. I have hurt so many in my lifetime but because of my awakening I have completely purged myself through a painful process to become a perfect vessel for the divine. I'm just in a tremendous gratitude that existence makes me articulate my feelings through the medium of writing. This only started since April and even if it helps one person it will be of immense value. Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Nice video. Brought a smile to my face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: A video is worth million words !!!. I uploaded a recent video (Friday May 14, 2010) of my love for her - reconfirming our vows so to speak - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0 Sorry I had something stuck in my mouth while I was singing but you will feel my love and energy.
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Oops..wanted to clarify that this is my path, I don't want to get everyone else to get mad and angry at each other. Since my Kundalini channel is completely open, all the negativity is immediately converted to pure creative energy on my crown. This has been my entire lifetime practice. So when I blast someone please remember this energy is not stuck in my lower centers, it immediately gives me a rush of energy since I'm pure and untouched. So please, careful everyone, approach a living guru for your personal guidance. Listen to me like a friend. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot Sal from there) like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get totally disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my responses there. Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife is very concerned since she wants me to be around forever. So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my body. I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my energy and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from conflict and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity. I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the conversation..LOL..
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You can tell how someone is my retarded devotee (I love them BTW, I can give them moksha but they are happy chasing their tails now) Clue #1 - fake id's like tartbrain, torquoise, sally, Clue #2 - Will always attack me, Amma or any other guru please use these clues to identify them and treat them with respect. LOL..I can die happily now..oops my wife would not like it, forget it retards.. Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one of my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in one single day... I must indeed be a guru, I'm humbled by their love. I hope everyone treats my 3 retarded disciples with the same love and respect they are showing me. I don't expect anything less !!!
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Thanks Steve. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well, I have to say that this has really been a breath of fresh air. We have so much quarreling here, that it gets pretty dull. So, it's nice to have your input.
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Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one of my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in one single day... I must indeed be a guru, I'm humbled by their love. I hope everyone treats my 3 retarded disciples with the same love and respect they are showing me. I don't expect anything less !!! Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: Thank you Steve. I have always considered words to be totally inadequate in expressing my feelings. All my life I was trapped with an intense love for my beloved, my mother but was never able to express it. It was like my Amma says - honey trapped inside a rock. I struggled, hated myself, anger, bitter, resentful. I acted out always fighting defensively, lashing out at people. I have hurt so many in my lifetime but because of my awakening I have completely purged myself through a painful process to become a perfect vessel for the divine. So the Divine is calling people idiots and acting pompously. Must be the same Divine Nabby is involved with. I'm just in a tremendous gratitude that existence makes me articulate my feelings through the medium of writing. This only started since April and even if it helps one person it will be of immense value. Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Nice video. Brought a smile to my face. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: A video is worth million words !!!. I uploaded a recent video (Friday May 14, 2010) of my love for her - reconfirming our vows so to speak - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0 Sorry I had something stuck in my mouth while I was singing but you will feel my love and energy.
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Dear Shukra69, Sorry today's applications for retarded disciples is closed. I was reunited with 3 of them in a single day and I was off today. I return to work tomorrow. But you never know, I'm very kind and compassionate - try my luck tomorrow. Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote: mania
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Dear tartie, I'm your worst nightmare come true tartie guy..LOL, Amma has sent me to take care of retards like you tartie brain. She is too busy with the cream of the top tartie baby... LOL.. You are making me totally blissful, don't kill your Guru. I'm training my 12 year old to be a yogi as well, you will end up being his disciple and I would hate that..LOL..please don't... Love - Ravi. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:23 PM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thank you for the wonderful insight that you have provided today. Until this minute, I had a rather good feeling about Amma. However if you are the greatest fruit of her teaching, I think you have saved me and others a lot of misdirection. Thanks again. Tartbrain (one is not very much attached to or identified with names )
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On May 17, 2010, at 9:57 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Well, I have to say that this has really been a breath of fresh air. We have so much quarreling here, that it gets pretty dull. So, it's nice to have your input. Yes, Ravi sure is a breath of fresh air, isn't he? So when I blast someone please remember this energy is not stuck in my lower centers, it immediately gives me a rush of energy since I'm pure and untouched. You can tell how someone is my retarded devotee... Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one of my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in one single day... Sorry today's applications for retarded disciples is closed. I'm your worst nightmare come true tartie guy..LOL, Amma has sent me to take care of retards like you tartie brain. She is too busy with the cream of the top tartie baby... Thanks for pointing out how fresh Rav has made the air here, lurk. :) Otherwise, we might have been inclined to chalk him up as a manic, grandiose, Edg-lite windbag. (And not only that, he's a bore.) Not that there's anything wrong with all that, of course... Sal
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On May 17, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Joe wrote: I actually hoping that this goof ball posts out before Judy this week. (And that's saying something!) Right now Rav's in the clear lead, with 23 to Judy's 16...stay tuned. Sal