Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Jason,

My disciples are right after all 

Everyone except Ravi guru is faking on batgap.com

I have watched everyone of you and you can't deceive me...

I have left the group Budhha at the gas pump, but they are genuine
spiritual aspirants like all of you. They can deceive everyone else but not
Ravi guru and his disciples - the battle scarred veterans !!!

Yaay to Guru Ravi and his disciples for exposing the charlatans !

Love - Ravi.___


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-19 Thread Bhairitu
Sal Sunshine wrote:

 Thank goodness this guy's in Fresno.

 Sal

Fresno to San Francisco would be one helluva commute.  Fremont to SF is 
bad enough.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Buck
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:08 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences
 
  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:


 Yep, bringing him over here sure is a 
 great advertisement for BATGAP, Rick. :)
 No offense, but I don't think this was one
 of your better ideas.
 
 Sal


Wasn't this Rick's attempt to reach out towards other spiritual groups for
their 'awakened'? I'll stick with the other old TM'ers thank you.
Check out Sandra Glickman: http://batgap.com/sandra-glickman/
No TM background.
Others to follow.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear everyone,

Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent
memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his
family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent
memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt
these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and
turqoise retard from his Amma days.

He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner,
shukra69 for a snack...LOL

He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was
applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He
was rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally.
He didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and
disciple. Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi
Chivukula..:-). His life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to
threaten and harass masters, he learnt from them.

When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin
and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will
not sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells
the wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi
Chivukula.

Love - Ravi

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:19 PM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
The irony is that the Ravi Chivukula, the thug became the lover...:-), he
loves everyone now..but recognize a thug from a wussy. Ravi Chivukula loves
the true spiritual thugs because they are the future lovers...but will
smell and hunt down wussies, idiots and retards...LOL...

You know who Ravi Chivukula is, he has a face, a family, a Guru, you know
where he lives and works, Fremont and San Francisco, his life is an open
book...he will come to Iowa when his Guru comes so people can meet him and
his family. He will give his love and blessings to anyone who is open and
interested.

Do you know anything about your wussies, the retards, the idiots posing as
spiritual thugs??? Ravi Chivukula has a special quality, his life of a thug
converted lover doesn't match his Gurus, he has his unique style which is
very different from his Gurus, he doesn't copy anyone, though he is in
gratitude to his Gurus.

The retards will use quotations from all over the place and will easily
expose themselves as retarded because they can't compete with Ravi
Chivukula..:-)because they are in a hurry to prove themselves to
be thugs...LOL. Ravi is relaxed, patient..he is a hunter...of
idiots, retards, wussieshe has done that all his life...never tolerated
medocrity:-)

Love - Ravi.



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent
 memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his
 family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent
 memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt
 these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and
 turqoise retard from his Amma days.

 He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner,
 shukra69 for a snack...LOL

 He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was
 applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He
 was rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally.
 He didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and
 disciple. Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi
 Chivukula..:-). His life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to
 threaten and harass masters, he learnt from them.

 When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin
 and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will
 not sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells
 the wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi
 Chivukula.

 Love - Ravi





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Edg,


Yes !!!

I am awake, just got up, I am singing a song trying to wake up my wife and
kids, dancing, blissed out ready to take down these wussiesLOL

Love - Ravi.



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 Ravi must be enlightened; look at Turq going nutzoid with unstressing about
 it. He's got Turq's number, and doesn't mind hanging him upside down in the
 public square and smacking Turq the Jerk around like it was Benito
 Mussolini's last moments.

 And yeah, Turq came out of the chute with horns sharpened -- that's a tell
 that he's still looking for outer embodiments to rail upon because his other
 spiritual rapists are dead now. Poor Turq -- how can anyone stand the pain
 of being handcuffed to such a personality? I guess masturbating while
 fantasizing about lacing some young thing's drink with Ambien is as good as
 life gets for him now.

 Edg





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Did I refer to myself in the 3rd person, Alex...:-), 3rd person is only for
retards.

Never for Alex Stanley !!!

If I say - Dear Alex I love you too, would that make you happy? I will never
use 3rd person with you or anyone who hates it. Just let me know. My focus
is on the other, not myself. I hope you will discern and understand the
difference, the retards are focussed on themselves, awakened on the other
since all my karmas are finished. I have nothing left to achieve, I'm just
having fun and a blast.

Love - Ravi.



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:





 Alex Stanley is a person who is weirded out by people who refer to
 themselves in the third person.
 ___



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 18, 2010, at 7:19 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:

 We have not had fun like this for a long time.  Let's enjoy it while it lasts.

Exactamundo!  My point that I was trying to make
(badly) in my second-to-last post

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 18, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 Ravi Chivukula was a quintessential spiritual thug. He has an excellent 
 memory, people who create fake id's, troll through list and attack him, his 
 family, his Guru are spiritual wussies and pussies. He has an excellent 
 memory, he remembers incidents from when he was 2, he will detect and hunt 
 these people who harass devotees. He clearly remember tartie boy, sally and 
 turqoise retard from his Amma days.
 
 He will eat tartie for breakfast, Turquoise for lunch and Sal for dinner, 
 shukra69 for a snack...LOL

Bon appetit. :)

 He met Ammachi when he was 24, but he only accepted her teaching if it was 
 applicable to him and rejected anything that wasn't applicable to him. He was 
 rude and made fun of anyone who accepted his guru's teachings literally. He 
 didn't spare anyone. He was the quintessential spiritual thug and disciple. 
 Wow the greatness of Ammachi !!! and a disciple like Ravi Chivukula..:-). His 
 life was an open book, he didn't create fake id's to threaten and harass 
 masters, he learnt from them.
 
 When Ravi sees these retards attacking devotees, true men like Jim Flanegin 
 and a list started by a man Rick Archer that he so appreciates, he will not 
 sit idle. He has the spiritual energy to share the essence and smells the 
 wussies from a distance. They can only dream of a state like Ravi 
 Chivukula.

True.  In our nightmares.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear do.rflex

You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage,
authenticity, intelligence.LOL.

I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will
simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any
chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-)

My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting
and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have
to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole
life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props
like my disciples.

Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details,
place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I
can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications?
Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from
Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon
give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg
you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love...

Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids
to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up
with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing
with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and
authentic..

Love - Ravi.



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with
 others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't
 think there's something awfully wrong with him.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage Bharadwaja,
I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong samskaras of all my
Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a Brahmin, not by birth
but my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can read your energy. I was
a Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my both boys are yogis.

My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software
engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me
at work.

I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/chivukula.ravi, my email is
chivukula.r...@gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com,
available upon request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA

What do you have?



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear do.rflex

 You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage,
 authenticity, intelligence.LOL.

 I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will
 simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any
 chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-)

 My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting
 and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have
 to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole
 life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props
 like my disciples.

 Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details,
 place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I
 can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications?
 Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from
 Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon
 give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg
 you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love...

 Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids
 to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up
 with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing
 with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and
 authentic..

 Love - Ravi.



 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting
 with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who
 does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oops my interview soon at batgap.com/ravi-chivukula


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage
 Bharadwaja, I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong
 samskaras of all my Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a
 Brahmin, not by birth but my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can
 read your energy. I was a Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my
 both boys are yogis.

 My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software
 engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me
 at work.

 I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/chivukula.ravi, my email is
 chivukula.r...@gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com,
 available upon request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA

 What do you have?



 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula 
 chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear do.rflex

 You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage,
 authenticity, intelligence.LOL.

 I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will
 simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any
 chance? How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-)

 My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting
 and throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have
 to depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole
 life is public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props
 like my disciples.

 Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details,
 place of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I
 can meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications?
 Any batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from
 Rick? Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon
 give me something to work with you, pleasee, I beg
 you...LOLyou don't want to feel my love...

 Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email
 ids to totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come
 up with something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love
 dealing with the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be
 honest and authentic..

 Love - Ravi.



 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting
 with others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who
 does't think there's something awfully wrong with him.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Funny you say this, you are open and can feel my energy and I like it.

I got up this morning and my kid asked where and how I slept. I told him I'm
a yogi, I don't sleep and have been target practicing all night long. I
usually lie down 12 - 6 am watching my body rest and dream. I told him that
I'm trying to shoot people who are taking aim at me and your dad is a sniper
and he has been practicing shooting all night long..LOL..

For some reason a whole block of street was closed earlier this morning in
Fremont, there was a SWAT team deployed. I was explaining to my kid how
every SWAT team has an expert sniper to take down criminals who hold others
hostage. I actually described it in precise detail and made the sign of a
gun and shot with my hands.., funny how I used that analogy in the morning
and here you are repeating it again..:-)

OTOH there are no coincidences..

Love - Ravi.


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, lurkernomore20002000 
steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



 I am just loving every bit of this. Let me say that Ravi Chivukula is a
 good listener. I think he picks up right away where people are coming from,
 although, I still say he misunderstood Tart. But if he shooting from the
 hip, I think his aim is pretty accurate.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I will try, thank you very much for your concern and understanding. Getting
tired of the stress of being a spiritual sniper...LOL, I'm at work though..

Love - Ravi.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Ravi.
 Oy. My suggegstion is that it is time to get back to your regular everyday
 job and follow the schedule and routine.
 _._,___



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 18, 2010, at 6:01 PM, wayback71 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... 
 wrote:
 
 Funny you say this, you are open and can feel my energy and I like it.
 
 I got up this morning and my kid asked where and how I slept. I told him I'm
 a yogi, I don't sleep and have been target practicing all night long. I
 usually lie down 12 - 6 am watching my body rest and dream. I told him that
 I'm trying to shoot people who are taking aim at me and your dad is a sniper
 and he has been practicing shooting all night long..LOL..
 
 For some reason a whole block of street was closed earlier this morning in
 Fremont, there was a SWAT team deployed. I was explaining to my kid how
 every SWAT team has an expert sniper to take down criminals who hold others
 hostage. I actually described it in precise detail and made the sign of a
 gun and shot with my hands.., funny how I used that analogy in the morning
 and here you are repeating it again..:-)
 
 OTOH there are no coincidences..
 
 Love - Ravi.
 
 Ravi.
 Oy.  My suggegstion is that it is time to get back to your regular everyday 
 job and follow the schedule and routine.

My suggestion is that he get back on his meds.
Oy is right...

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
What kind of Sidhhis did Raman Maharishi demonstrate or was it just the
imagination of devotees? I always laughed at anyone who said they had
Ammachi in their dreams and made them do x, y or z. I would say it is just
imagination, I have had Amma in my dreams and so...what then?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone appears on this list that they had Ravi
Guru in their dreams instructing them to abuse torky, sally and tartie for
example..LOL..the power of imagination is such, oh what games we play to
escape the truth staring at us constantly...

Love - Ravi..


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:



 No evidence of Siddhis. imo, would-be Gurus should demonstrate an
 extraordinary level of Shakti power, appearing in people's dreams maybe.
 Even Dr. Lenz could do that..
 I have yet to find a Guru who can do well in the stock market. Where's the
 Spiritual/material interface? At least Ravi seems to have a real job.
 The credits he cites amount to a beginning. Is he (you...if reading this)
 not on a learning curve like the rest of us? I recommend that you become a
 disciple of Ramana Maharshi, then teach from that perspective.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread ditzyklanmail
I have:www.myspace.com/thearismusic






From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 18 May, 2010 4:05:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

  
I'm a South Indian Brahmin who traces his family lineage to Sage Bharadwaja, 
I'm the best expression of my mom and dad, I have strong samskaras of all my 
Brahmin forefathers. I have earned the right to be a Brahmin, not by birth but 
my own efforts. I do astrology, ayurveda, I can read your energy. I was a 
Guru/Yogi in my last life, my wife is a yogini, my both boys are yogis.

My Guru is Ammachi, the supreme mother. I have been working as a Software 
engineer from 1996, I have an IQ of 140, people who love me and respect me at 
work.

I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/ chivukula. ravi, my email is chivukula.ravi@ 
gmail.com, my videos showing my bliss are on youtube.com, available upon 
request, I live in Fremont, CA work in San Francisco, CA

What do you have?




On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ gmail.com 
wrote:

Dear do.rflex


You are the first one to totally stump me today, I admire your courage, 
authenticity, intelligence. LOL.


I don't know how to react since I can't call you any loving names. I will 
simply say I love my do.rflex - are you from planet Zinooka, by any chance? 
How does anyone take you seriously I wonder...:-)


My life is an open book, if you take sometime from your constant vomiting and 
throwing up, you can read it and discern for yourself - why do you have to 
depend on others? I'm on facebook, my videos are on Youtube, my whole life is 
public, my love for everyone is total and I don't need any props like my 
disciples. 


Can you provide me your details - first name, last name, family details, place 
of residence, where you work, names of your family members and where I can 
meet you? Any facebook or youtube links detailing your qualifications? Any 
batgap.com interviews? Do you at least have any recommendation from Rick? 
Sally, Torky, Tarty? Are you buddies with shukri, freakybrain? C'mon give me 
something to work with you, pleasee , I beg you. ..LOL 
you don't want to feel my love...


Now all my disciples will get it - create complicated yahoo troll email ids to 
totally confuse me..LOL, but I'm totally adaptable I will surely come up with 
something, I'm a greater guru than Maharishi or Ammachi, I love dealing with 
the bottom of the cans like you:-), but you need to be honest and 
authentic..


Love - Ravi.





On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo. com wrote:














 


Makes one wonder how he gets by in regular day to day life interacting with 
others if he acts like this - or if there's anyone he encounters who does't 
think there's something awfully wrong with him.



 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear yifuxero piece of shit


It doesn't matter what I say, you already are one of my bottom of the can
idiotic retarded wannabe thuggie disciple...LOL..join the queue after torky,
sally, tartie, shukri, freakybrain...you are the sixth...

Ravi Chivukula is a hunter.:-)

His eyes are hypnoticLOL..

You know how a lion catches its prey. It just locks its eyes with its prey -
the minute the prey looks at the lion, it is frozen and all the lion has to
do now is devour it.

So you can run, you can hide, I will find you, look at you, hypnotize you,
devour you and give you moksha...

P.S. I make a 6 figure salary that you can only dream of..so you can come
and lick my ass and I will pay you for that..LOL


Love - Ravi.





On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:15 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:



 How about the Siddhi of controlled out of body travel. Can you do that?
 by dreams, this term represents an entry point into a broader topic, such
 as Yoga Nidra (complete awareness during the sleep states), and then going
 onto lucid dreams, precognitive dreams; and most important: the Radiant Form
 of the Master.
 Since Ammachi is your Guru, I take it you have seen Her Radiant Form. By
 that I mean not a mere dream, but a totally mind-blowing Radiant, effulgent,
 Celestial form that is Beautiful beyond discription.
 You keep on saying...no, no, I don't have these types of awarenesses that
 are common among the Tibetan Rinpoches (such as complete conscious awareness
 during the sleep states); and the capacity to Rise Above Bodily
 Consciousness, meeting up with various Spiritual Masters both living and
 physically dead. (the Siddhi common to genuine Sant Mat Saints).
 So, you have realized the Self. Everything is BeingOK; not a new
 message but an important one if one goes beyond the ordinary Neo-Advaitic
 message and states why such a realization is important (i.e. gives one
 some types of benefits).
 The next question would be why one would declare such as Self-attainment,
 if the achievement is only to end on the surface of your skin. (and thus,
 the need for hugging).
 I'm trying to grasp the situation here with BatGap but don't quite
 understand it. Bear with me a bit(to summarize), let's start from page
 1:
 1. Going back to Sakyamuni Buddha and others such as St. Paul, various
 claims are made: people can eliminate suffering and become happy if only
 they perform actions (a, b, c,...).
 OK, fine; but I don't see much evidence for such claims, especially coming
 from the MUM statistics, and the like.
 2. Then, over the centuries, various people claim to have duplicated the
 efforts of the Buddha; only to recycle the old messages and claims.
 3. Apart from some extremely rare cases such as Nityananda and various
 Christian Saints; given the set of Awakened people, the evidence seems to
 suggest that true Enlightenment goes beyond mere Awakening and indeed, the
 latter is ordinary in no extraordinary sense! (in that case, one might as
 well interview Vegas card cheaters for amusement).
 4. Among the truly Awakened, some demonstrate genuine Siddhis, either in a
 deliberate fashion (Nityananda); or that occur spontaneously in the Presence
 of persons like Ramana Maharshi. Yet you make lite of such happenings
 apparently to proclaim your elevated status and lower theirs.
 At any rate, I applaud you for not asking for donations and not having much
 in the way of a concealed agenda. Maybe you can hit people for some $$ later
 on.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 18, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 Dear yifuxero piece of shit

More fresh air, right lurk? :)
What did we ever do without him...

 It doesn't matter what I say, you already are one of my bottom of the can 
 idiotic retarded wannabe thuggie disciple...LOL..join the queue after torky, 
 sally, tartie, shukri, freakybrain...you are the sixth...

Ah, yes, the breezes wafting from his
words are like the pure west wind...

 Ravi Chivukula is a hunter.:-)
 
 His eyes are hypnoticLOL..
 
 You know how a lion catches its prey. It just locks its eyes with its prey - 
 the minute the prey looks at the lion, it is frozen and all the lion has to 
 do now is devour it.
 
 So you can run, you can hide, I will find you, look at you, hypnotize you, 
 devour you and give you moksha...

Now he's beginning to sound almost unhinged...

 P.S. I make a 6 figure salary that you can only dream of..so you can come and 
 lick my ass and I will pay you for that..LOL 

Thank goodness this guy's in Fresno.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I love Jim..:-)

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 Gawd, it's an Indian Jim Flanegin.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
What was Ravi doing just prior to the batgap.com Interview

May 5, 2010 5:36 PM PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLP3aU8WPrM

May 5, 2010 5:42 PM PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVMUw9V0uc

Its easy to miss it - but Ravi clearly stated on batgap that he was not an
intellectual, he was uncomfortable and had no knowledge of the TM terms, his
path is of love, a sufi. Its only his Guru's grace that he is able to write
and share all experiences. But he was accepted with love and understanding
by everyone on batgap.


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:08 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@... wrote:

 I love Jim..:-)

But I thought you loved your wife.

And you've been telling her that she cannot possibly
love two people at the same time -- you and Amma.
So one of them's got to go, hotshot. You either 
love Jim and dump your wife, or love your wife and
dump Jim. By your *own* standards, you can't do both.

BTW, Jim is somewhat of a joke around here. 
In some people's views. I don't regard him that way. I have no problem
liking him, you, Judy, and Nabby, each in different ways and for different
reasons.
The fact
that you take him seriously makes you one, too.


 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yes you are right, I'm in total agreement here. It includes Amma too. My
wife would love the whole world through my eyes and I would do the same
through her eyes. There are several examples of this in Indian scriptures.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:


 It doesn't seem to encompass Amma.

 Or your wife's right to revere and see anyone
 she chooses to.

 Why aren't they included?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 OK guys...you knew this was coming, right?  :-)

 I am *such* a sucker for an opportunity to get funny
 (or at least the way I see 'funny'), so although I
 merely skimmed this post before, I think I'll have
 some fun with it.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... 
 wrote:
   
 Hi everyone.

 I just joined the group at the request of Rick to address 
 various questions that have arose. Its natural since I 
 myself was confused and the true purpose and the future 
 direction has been revealed to me since my initial 
 awakening in November '09. 
 

 Condescend much?

 I am happy for your initial wakening in November '09,
 although I don't see it having done much for you as a
 human being. But you said to ask questions, so I have 
 a question about the above.

One of  the problems I had with the videos of the awakened on BatGap 
was at least the ones I saw were experiences somewhat removed from folks 
I met over the years especially outside the TM movement.  I mentioned in 
that Jyotish thread the workshops and symposiums I attended where the 
were many such of these people who BTW didn't go around advertising they 
were awakened.  Probably the best thing to do if one does feel they 
are enlightened is to shut up about it.  Just let it play out in your 
life.  It sometimes seems that some of the TM folks finally got a taste 
of shakti and thought it was enlightenment instead of a rung on the 
ladder there.  OTOH, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying 
one has had a taste of enlightenment.  But it is an ongoing 
experience with no end.  IOW, as many seekers through the centuries 
have found, once you've think you've arrived you find a few days or 
weeks later there is more. ;-)




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:07 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences
 
One of the problems I had with the videos of the awakened on BatGap 
was at least the ones I saw were experiences somewhat removed from folks 
I met over the years especially outside the TM movement. I mentioned in 
that Jyotish thread the workshops and symposiums I attended where the 
were many such of these people who BTW didn't go around advertising they 
were awakened. Probably the best thing to do if one does feel they 
are enlightened is to shut up about it. 
I'm only inviting those who say they've awakened permanently, so it's a
selective group. And not all those whom I invite agree to an interview. Some
do want to be private.
Just let it play out in your 
life. It sometimes seems that some of the TM folks finally got a taste 
of shakti and thought it was enlightenment instead of a rung on the 
ladder there. OTOH, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying 
one has had a taste of enlightenment. But it is an ongoing 
experience with no end. IOW, as many seekers through the centuries 
have found, once you've think you've arrived you find a few days or 
weeks later there is more. ;-)
I haven't listened to these interviews since I taped them, but in the last
few days I've started doing so. Listen to interviews 3-6 and tell me if
these folks don't sound permanently shifted.
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 Very funny, yes I agree...I was expecting it as well. 
 
 What would be a dog without the wagging of its tail - its so much in love 
 with it. I'm a dog that has stopped wagging its tail and have become the 
 master.
 
 The divine is trying very hard through me to make other dogs stop wagging 
 their tails...LOL..but you have to accept that you are a dog first, that 
 would be the first step. How can I work with someone who hasn't even come to 
 that stage.
 
 I wouldn't waste any more of my time with you..:-)

Getting a bit testy, are we Ravi?  :)
My, for someone who's awakened,
you sure do seem to have gotten up
on the wrong side of bed.

Oh, yeah--one more thing.
Woof.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I'm whoever you think I am, I can be testy, impatient, angry, loving,
compassionate all the while  in bliss..while dealing with stupid people I
act stupid, while dealing with my kids I'm a father, while dealing dealing
with my wife I'm a husband, while with my Amma an innocent child, so somehow
my state of consciousness is undisturbed by idiots and fools like you..:-) I
love fights with spiritual thugs because I love them too. and I'm always
the winner since I know how to control the fight.

I'm in bliss regardless of the side of the bed I get up from..:-), people
like Sal and torquoise fascinated with your tails always get up on the side
away from your tail..LOL..

And you now know if I will respond to your next post or not..:-)

OMG I'm so  glad Rick invited here, you guys are helping me stay rooted to
my body so I can continue my fun for some time...

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote:




 Getting a bit testy, are we Ravi? :)
 My, for someone who's awakened,
 you sure do seem to have gotten up
 on the wrong side of bed.

 Oh, yeah--one more thing.
 Woof.

 Sal

  __._,_.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict
family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People
might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight
like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot
Sal from there) like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get
totally disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my
responses there.

Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots
in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife
is very concerned since she wants me to be around forever.

So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my
body. I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never
rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very
outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my
energy and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from
conflict and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity.

I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the
conversation..LOL..


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thanks Steve, anyone open will feel my energy like I said I don't anyone to
copy my path. Steve is unique and has his own path to the divine, that is my
story and I hope others will absorb the essence and reject anything that
doesn't make sense to them.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:40 PM, lurkernomore20002000 
steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



 That's great. I appreciate you sharing your story. It sounds very genuine,
 and it is your experience. So thank you for that.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

 I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict 
 family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People 
 might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight 
 like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot Sal 
 from there)

No, it was another idiot, Rav. :) Never been an Amma
devotee or posted on any of her chat groups.

 like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get totally 
 disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my responses 
 there.
 
 Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots 
 in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife is 
 very concerned since she wants me to be around forever.

Yes, it's perfectly obvious that your high conflict
family has had no effect on you as an adult (I use
that word loosely here) whatsoever.

 So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my body. 
 I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never 
 rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very 
 outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my energy 
 and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from conflict 
 and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity.
 
 I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the 
 conversation..LOL..

Which proves exactly how lacking in control you are, Rav.
Anyone who has to keep getting the last word in
has serious anger issues, not that there's anything
wrong with that, of course...

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
A very good question.

Since I work entirely with feeling people's energy, I cannot help society or
global issues, ie I'm not a revolutionary. I get impatient with any kinds of
political or any other ideology. I cannot think about anyone else who is not
in my personal or virtual presence as this list..:-) I cannot indulge in
gossip and even when some people start talking about someone who is not in
my presence or some global issues such as offshore drilling I drift off. I
only consider the person I'm dealing with.

So I unfortunately can only work with individuals. But my prayers and
blessings to the people of Bangladesh (just hoping that my prayers and
blessings somehow translate to something useful there)

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:41 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Does your Bliss state help people in Bangladesh? Just asking.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thank you Steve.

I have always considered words to be totally inadequate in expressing my
feelings. All my life I was trapped with an intense love for my beloved, my
mother but was never able to express it. It was like my Amma says - honey
trapped inside a rock. I struggled, hated myself, anger, bitter, resentful.
I acted out always fighting defensively, lashing out at people. I have hurt
so many in my lifetime but because of my awakening I have completely purged
myself through a painful process to become a perfect vessel for the divine.
I'm just in a tremendous gratitude that existence makes me articulate my
feelings through the medium of writing. This only started since April and
even if it helps one person it will be of immense value.

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, lurkernomore20002000 
steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



 Nice video. Brought a smile to my face.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com,
 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote:
 
  A video is worth million words !!!.
 
  I uploaded a recent video (Friday May 14, 2010) of my love for her -
  reconfirming our vows so to speak -
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0
 
  Sorry I had something stuck in my mouth while I was singing but you will
  feel my love and energy.
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oops..wanted to clarify that this is my path, I don't want to get everyone
else to get mad and angry at each other. Since my Kundalini channel is
completely open, all the negativity is immediately converted to pure
creative energy on my crown. This has been my entire lifetime practice.

So when I blast someone please remember this energy is not stuck in my lower
centers, it immediately gives me a rush of energy since I'm pure and
untouched. So please, careful everyone, approach a living guru for your
personal guidance. Listen to me like a friend.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 I want to clarify to everyone else my path. I was born into a high conflict
 family but was entirely untouched by it like a lotus in a mud pond. People
 might remember my old feisty self from Amma list, I would get mad and fight
 like hell with people who made fun of Amma (I think I remember this idiot
 Sal from there) like the ones I'm responding to with fervor. But I would get
 totally disturbed and feel guilty. I used to fall into meditation after my
 responses there.

 Since now I'm totally awakened I'm treating my interaction with even idiots
 in a very loving way. I feel like I will leave my body anytime and my wife
 is very concerned since she wants me to be around forever.

 So I'm so glad that Rick invited here, anything to keep me rooted to my
 body. I love fights and dealing with idiots totally, I in my life have never
 rejected anything. I used to love fighting with Amma devotees too and very
 outspoken in my criticism. Everything adds to my bliss. Even though my
 energy and consciousness is same as someone like Jim, I don't shy away from
 conflict and fights. I totally love it and handle it with equanimity.

 I know I will always have the last word and I am in total control of the
 conversation..LOL..




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
You can tell how someone is my retarded devotee (I love them BTW, I can give
them moksha but they are happy chasing their tails now)

Clue #1 - fake id's like tartbrain, torquoise, sally,

Clue #2 - Will always attack me, Amma or any other guru

please use these clues to identify them and treat them with respect.

LOL..I can die happily now..oops my wife would not like it, forget it
retards..

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one
 of my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in
 one single day...

 I must indeed be a guru, I'm humbled by their love. I hope everyone treats
 my 3 retarded disciples with the same love and respect they are showing me.
 I don't expect anything less !!!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thanks Steve.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, lurkernomore20002000 
steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



 Well, I have to say that this has really been a breath of fresh air. We
 have so much quarreling here, that it gets pretty dull. So, it's nice to
 have your input.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one of
my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in
one single day...

I must indeed be a guru, I'm humbled by their love. I hope everyone treats
my 3 retarded disciples with the same love and respect they are showing me.
I don't expect anything less !!!

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com,
 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote:
 
  Thank you Steve.
 
  I have always considered words to be totally inadequate in expressing my
  feelings. All my life I was trapped with an intense love for my beloved,
 my
  mother but was never able to express it. It was like my Amma says -
 honey
  trapped inside a rock. I struggled, hated myself, anger, bitter,
 resentful.
  I acted out always fighting defensively, lashing out at people. I have
 hurt
  so many in my lifetime but because of my awakening I have completely
 purged
  myself through a painful process to become a perfect vessel for the
 divine.

 So the Divine is calling people idiots and acting pompously. Must be the
 same Divine Nabby is involved with.

  I'm just in a tremendous gratitude that existence makes me articulate my
  feelings through the medium of writing. This only started since April and
  even if it helps one person it will be of immense value.
 
  Love - Ravi.
 
  On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, lurkernomore20002000 
  steve.sun...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   Nice video. Brought a smile to my face.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife%
 40yahoogroups.com,

   Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
   
A video is worth million words !!!.
   
I uploaded a recent video (Friday May 14, 2010) of my love for her -
reconfirming our vows so to speak -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLFWJfcMZ0
   
Sorry I had something stuck in my mouth while I was singing but you
 will
feel my love and energy.
   
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear Shukra69,

Sorry today's applications for retarded disciples is closed. I was reunited
with 3 of them in a single day and I was off today. I return to work
tomorrow.

But you never know, I'm very kind and compassionate - try my luck tomorrow.

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote:



 mania





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Dear tartie,

I'm your worst nightmare come true tartie guy..LOL, Amma has sent me to take
care of retards like you tartie brain. She is too busy with the cream of the
top tartie baby...

LOL..

You are making me totally blissful, don't kill your Guru. I'm training my 12
year old to be a yogi as well, you will end up being his disciple and I
would hate that..LOL..please don't...

Love - Ravi.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:23 PM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 Thank you for the wonderful insight that you have provided today. Until
 this minute, I had a rather good feeling about Amma. However if you are the
 greatest fruit of her teaching, I think you have saved me and others a lot
 of misdirection.

 Thanks again.

 Tartbrain
 (one is not very much attached to or identified with names )



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2010, at 9:57 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:

 Well, I have to say that this has really been a breath of fresh air. We have 
 so much quarreling here, that it gets pretty dull. So, it's nice to have your 
 input. 

Yes, Ravi sure is a breath of fresh air, isn't he?

So when I blast someone please remember this energy is not stuck in my lower 
centers, it immediately gives me a rush of energy since I'm pure and untouched. 
  

You can tell how someone is my retarded devotee...

Hey tartie - another one of my idiot disciples from my Amma days, its one of 
my luckiest days..LOL, Amma has reunited me with my 3 favorite retards in one 
single day...

Sorry today's applications for retarded disciples is closed.

I'm your worst nightmare come true tartie guy..LOL, Amma has sent me to take 
care of retards like you tartie brain. She is too busy with the cream of the 
top tartie baby...

Thanks for pointing out how fresh Rav has made the
air here, lurk.  :)  Otherwise, we might have been 
inclined to chalk him up as  a manic, grandiose,
Edg-lite windbag.  (And not only that, he's a bore.) Not that there's
anything wrong with all that, of course...

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi's clarifications on his experiences

2010-05-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 17, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Joe wrote:

 I actually hoping that this goof ball posts out before Judy this week. (And 
 that's saying something!)

Right now Rav's in the clear lead, with 23
to Judy's 16...stay tuned.

Sal