Re: formatting zip disks in Pismo (OS 10.4)?

[sandra ragan]

On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:


They are currently MSDOS formatted (fat16).
I'd like to format them for her Wallstreet  (OS 9.2.2).
I opened disk utility and could see the zip disk and erase it but 
couldn't change the format.

Is this even possible?
Perhaps all zip disks are DOS formatted?


You should be able to formate them for the Mac using ZipTools. Unless 
they were Mac formated at the factory, they usually come in DOS or a 
cross platform DOS/UNIX format that's readable by pre-OS X Macs and 
PCs... you can read/write to that formate but not run first aid/disk 
recovery programs on those disks.
You usually need to find a Windows machine to formate (deeper than 
initialize) the Zip disks in DOS.


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Re: formatting zip disks in Pismo (OS 10.4)?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 20, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:

I'm going to send my mom a few zip disks from the pile and though  
it would be nice to format them for her.

They are currently MSDOS formatted (fat16).
I'd like to format them for her Wallstreet  (OS 9.2.2).
I opened disk utility and could see the zip disk and erase it but  
couldn't change the format.

Is this even possible?
Perhaps all zip disks are DOS formatted?
For that matter is there any advantage to one format over the other?


When you look in Disk utility you see the device and the volume.

For example, if I fire up Disk Utility I see:

37.3 GB Prolific PL3507 Combo device
Pocket Rocket

That's my 2.5" Firewire external drive. "37.3 GB Prolific " is the  
device, "Pocket Rocket" is the volume on that formatted device. I can  
change the format of DOS formatted devices, but not DOS formatted  
volumes.


If it were DOS formatted, and I select "Pocket Rocket" all I can do  
is reformat it as MS DOS. If I select "37.3 GB Prolific..." I can  
select Mac HFS+ or any other supported format.


That said, DOS formatting is likely the most useful, since it's then  
readable on multiple plateforms, and HFS+ doesn't get you anything  
more on a 100MB disk.


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formatting zip disks in Pismo (OS 10.4)?

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

I'm going to send my mom a few zip disks from the pile and though it 
would be nice to format them for her.

They are currently MSDOS formatted (fat16).
I'd like to format them for her Wallstreet  (OS 9.2.2).
I opened disk utility and could see the zip disk and erase it but 
couldn't change the format.

Is this even possible?
Perhaps all zip disks are DOS formatted?
For that matter is there any advantage to one format over the other?

Thanks

Andrew in Ann Arbor
technology is the answer, what was the question?


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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[Stuart Saunders]

On 16/02/2006, at 12:57 PM, G-Books wrote:


Subject: Pismo Power Jack

I'm about to dig into my Pismo to resolder the power jack to the
sound card.


Something that might prevent this problem in the future (or for  
others) is to give the adapter connector a quick shot of WD40 or the  
like. Pismos are notorious for tight adapter connections, and this  
solved it on my second Pismo. First Pismo was solved when I tripped  
over the adapter cord and launched it (Pismo) into space - landing on  
a concrete floor. Only damage was the adapter connector was now much  
easier to insert!


To prevent unintended 'launches', you can run wires (charger,  
ethernet, etc) from laptop, then around the leg of table it's on (2  
or 3 times is better) or other solid object before crossing floor  
etc. Then if you trip, worst can happen is you rip the wires out of  
the wall or adapter. Much better than dropping laptop.


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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[gladys pérez-almiroty]

i have a pismo and an ibook 1.33. when i take them both with me i  
only take 1 power brick: the one for the ibook. i bought a while ago  
an adapter that allows me to use the newer brick with the pismo. it  
is simply a male size on the pismo side and female ibook size on the  
other.clever and beautiful.

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On 15/02/06 16:49, "Frank Cornew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm about to dig into my Pismo to resolder the power jack to the
sound card. If I can locate a new style power jack, would the pismo
work with the new powerbook power bricks?

I'm using two of the original saucer 45 watt/24v/1.875 supplies and
have had to repair them multiple times. Have had to crack one open
and rebuild the plug on another one.

Have access to the new style power supplies, and believe there was an
adapter made so that old saucers would work with the new computers.


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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[themacuser]

The 12" PowerBook has a 45W supply. The iBook 12" does as well, and  
the 14" one (I think, I only have a 12" PB).
The 65W adaptors work fine on the 45W machine - they both supply 24  
volts, and should be just the same.

On 16/02/2006, at 8:53 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:

In addition to have physically incompatible connectors and jacks,  
the power
requirements for the new PowerBooks are different than the old  
PowerBook so,
unless you would heavily modify the Audio/Power board, that  
wouldn't work,

methinks, and could potentially be harmful to your old PowerBook.


Laurent is correct on this one. The G4 PowerBooks use a 65W power
supply, compared to the 45W supply of the G3 series. The voltage is
the same 24V, though. I'd advise keeping on with the YoYo, but that's
just me.


The early G4s were 45W, as are all the iBooks AFAIK.

Wattage isn't critical here, the adapter which can supply 65W will  
work fine

with a 45W machine.


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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> In addition to have physically incompatible connectors and jacks, the power
>> requirements for the new PowerBooks are different than the old PowerBook so,
>> unless you would heavily modify the Audio/Power board, that wouldn't work,
>> methinks, and could potentially be harmful to your old PowerBook.
> 
> Laurent is correct on this one. The G4 PowerBooks use a 65W power
> supply, compared to the 45W supply of the G3 series. The voltage is
> the same 24V, though. I'd advise keeping on with the YoYo, but that's
> just me.

The early G4s were 45W, as are all the iBooks AFAIK.

Wattage isn't critical here, the adapter which can supply 65W will work fine
with a 45W machine.

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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[calebcupplessocialism]

In addition to have physically incompatible connectors and jacks, the power
requirements for the new PowerBooks are different than the old PowerBook so,
unless you would heavily modify the Audio/Power board, that wouldn't work,
methinks, and could potentially be harmful to your old PowerBook.


Laurent is correct on this one. The G4 PowerBooks use a 65W power 
supply, compared to the 45W supply of the G3 series. The voltage is 
the same 24V, though. I'd advise keeping on with the YoYo, but that's 
just me.


Caleb

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Re: Pismo Power Jack

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 15/02/06 16:49, "Frank Cornew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm about to dig into my Pismo to resolder the power jack to the
> sound card. If I can locate a new style power jack, would the pismo
> work with the new powerbook power bricks?
> 
> I'm using two of the original saucer 45 watt/24v/1.875 supplies and
> have had to repair them multiple times. Have had to crack one open
> and rebuild the plug on another one.
> 
> Have access to the new style power supplies, and believe there was an
> adapter made so that old saucers would work with the new computers.

In addition to have physically incompatible connectors and jacks, the power
requirements for the new PowerBooks are different than the old PowerBook so,
unless you would heavily modify the Audio/Power board, that wouldn't work,
methinks, and could potentially be harmful to your old PowerBook.

-Laurent.
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Pismo Power Jack

[Frank Cornew]

I'm about to dig into my Pismo to resolder the power jack to the 
sound card. If I can locate a new style power jack, would the pismo 
work with the new powerbook power bricks?


I'm using two of the original saucer 45 watt/24v/1.875 supplies and 
have had to repair them multiple times. Have had to crack one open 
and rebuild the plug on another one.


Have access to the new style power supplies, and believe there was an 
adapter made so that old saucers would work with the new computers.


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Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz

[Jeff Drummond]

On Feb 11, 2006, at 7:54 am, Geoffrey Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the
world's fastest Pismo upgrades? I know *I* for one am prepared to pay
the premium, who's with me? Shall we petition the lovely lads at OWC
with a last-chance group order?


These upgrades were problematic when PowerLogix was
shipping them (check out OWCs CPU upgrade database).
I'd want to see some evidence that the bugs had been
worked out before I'd consider ordering one.

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Pismo / Mail won't

[Stuart Saunders]

My Pismo G4 550 with 10.4.4 will not get Mail under Airport, supplied  
by my iMac.
Safari and Firefox work on the Pismo using Airport, Mail won't  
connect - unless I plug in the ethernet connection.


Both recently upgraded to 10.4.4.

Anybody got any clues as to what is going wrong & how to fix?

TIA,
S.

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Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz

[Geoffrey Peters]

Stardate 060210.20:17 -0600. A subspace message from Jason Long reads:


Too late, I've already got one! 


... bastard :P


I didn't realize that there were so few sold. I was a bit leery of Powerlogix
as I'd read some of the upset customer reports on the xlr8yourmac database.


From my experiences, Powerlogix made the best upgrades out of the 
lot. Sonnet, frankly, make shit.


To pick a nit I'm pretty sure that Moore bought the G4/500 upgrade 
for his >Pismo, not the G3/900.


That's his personal machine - the wife has the G3/900.


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Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz

[Jason Long]

Too late, I've already got one! 
I didn't realize that there were so few sold. I was a bit leery of 
Powerlogix as I'd read some of the upset customer reports on the xlr8yourmac 
database, but I got lucky with no problems and no delays once I'd decided 
not to wait for the just announced 1 GHz G3 chip, but to settle for the 900 
MHz.
It's no longer my primary computer as I bought a 20' iMac G5 1.8 a year ago 
for more screen space. But I just took it on the road for a couple of weeks 
and it did just fine although I was really wishing that I'd bought the damn 
Airport card. Aside from frying the modem and Ethernet ports in a series of 
lightning strikes a couple of years ago it runs great.


To pick a nit I'm pretty sure that Moore bought the G4/500 upgrade for his 
Pismo, not the G3/900.


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Re: Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz

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> 
> Does anyone here have the incredibly good fortune to own the very 
> rare PowerLogix "BlueChip G3 Pismo 900" (yes, that's right, the 
> sexiest machine Apple ever made can run at 900 MHz) CPU upgrade?

> Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the 
> world's fastest Pismo upgrades? 

Sounds like a winner to me...
Let's do it.

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Pismo upgrades: The BlueChip G3 900 MHz

[Geoffrey Peters]

Well ... some things just never cease to amaze me.

Does anyone here have the incredibly good fortune to own the very 
rare PowerLogix "BlueChip G3 Pismo 900" (yes, that's right, the 
sexiest machine Apple ever made can run at 900 MHz) CPU upgrade?


No?

Want one?

Well, ya can't have one. Unless ... read on!

It seems that when the lovely lads at OWC 'absorbed' PowerLogix (whom 
I swear made *THE* best CPU upgrades ever -- Sonnet make shite,  by 
comparison) they merged their CPU upgrade lines, and the only Pismo 
upgrade they kept was the NewerTech G4/500 (PPC7510).


BOOO!!! B *much raining of peanuts and hissing* BOO!

Charles Moore mentions the launch of the BlueChips in his MacOpinion 
colums 
http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/04/04/13/index.html 
with a 900 MHz (750FX) and 1 GHz (750GX) available back in late April 
of 2004. Obviously *some* of them made it out the door, because 
Charles has one, and at least one person bought *two* because he's 
selling one on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/cp5hs ... and interestingly 
enough, the seller's upgrade features a third chp, the low(er) power 
750GL.


Man, my chin hit the floor, bounced four times and ran out the door screaming.

Now, I can kinda understand why OWC decided to not continue the 
BlueChips, seeing as they already had the Newertech stuff, and the 
fact that the BlueChip 900 was US$349 against the NewerTech G4/500 at 
US$279 ... but *SURELY* when they took over they brought in whatever 
remained of the BlueChip kits!! If so ...


Hands up all you Pismo addicts who'd like another crack at the 
world's fastest Pismo upgrades? I know *I* for one am prepared to pay 
the premium, who's with me? Shall we petition the lovely lads at OWC 
with a last-chance group order?



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Re: Value of a Pismo?

[Geoffrey Peters]

Stardate 060206.08:21 -0800. A subspace message from R. P. Bell reads:

Thanks for all your input, most heartening :D


On #1, the scuffed rubber and chinks around the edges will hurt value, but I
still think you are in the ball-game with my estimate.  The single 
bad pixel is

only marginably problematic, but a buyer will try to use that as a bargaining
point ("what else is going wrong with it?").


Mmm, somewhat expected.


Have you thought of taking the best of each (screen from #2, plastics from the
best, even if you have to mix parts, etc.) and make one sterling machine?


Apart from moving the LCD assemblies over, I already have tried to 
'max out' Monolith as best as I can, Pismo 2 took the 'leavings'. 
(Actually, there was a third Pismo machine in the equation, but that 
ended up with the somewhat daggy sticker-fested casing that I 
mentioned in an earlier post, an intact but very dull screen, and the 
*real* left-overs ... but I did offer the tech who assisted me any 
pieces left over, working or not, and I heard back from him tonight 
that he'd found a 400 MHz CPU and 128 MB of RAM, and had already made 
a poor uni student very happy with a small 'desktop' Pismo computer 
for A$120 -- a win win situation all round :))


As for the single stuck pixel, I didn't notice that until I was 
giving it the clean-down (being stuck on blue-white means it blended 
in very well to the default Aqua desktop), and frankly, I don't think 
it is very obvious unless you go looking for it, or try to make it 
display red :). Besides, of the two LCDs, that one is the brighter 
and less marked of the two.


There was also an AirPort card, but I'm staunchly 
anti-wireless-technology so I gave that to my techie-friend (lucky 
for him he piped up when he did, I was about to snap it in two). I 
wouldn't inflict that toxic-ness on anyone, if they wish to be 
suicidal and add one after they buy my machines, that's their choice.



... the keymarks on the screen are NOT permanent, regardless of what
you've been told.  I clean them from my Pismo screen about twice a year


How do you do it? The suggestions that hit this list a few days ago 
reference products unavailable in Australia.



Do you have original docs?


No, alas. Nor the boxes or anything else, purely what you see in the pics.


Then, the other machine could be parted out ...


Mmm, no, I'm not interested in trying to maximise any return on these 
two lovelies, all I seek is some redress for my time and the promise 
they go to a loving home :)


I myself have no need for portable computing, and even though both of 
them rate faster in CPU and bus-speed than Brutus, my beloved G3/300 
platinum minitower (call him 'beige' and I'll curse you ;)), is the 
more flexible machine for my needs, and still does virtually 
everything I want from a computer these days anyway. I don't game, I 
don't watch videos (heck, I refuse to watch TV), I dabble some with 
music, and I write a *lot* of text. I bought a Mac Mini earlier this 
year, experimented for about three months before I realised I missed 
the flexibility the G3/300 gave me, couldn't justify the expenditure 
on a machine I was leaving sit idle more often than not, so I sold 
it. Got back exactly what I paid for it too :)


And that's despite turning it into a FrankenMini, as seen here below:

http://madchat.tv/apple/frankenmini

The old 630 case was a perfect choice. With the addition of a 2.5" 
adaptor and some spare parts, Mimi went from a 1.25GHz/256/40/combo 
entry-level model with the pokey 4200 RPM drive, to a speedy little 
minx sporting a 7200 RPM Western Digital 8MB Caviar 120 GB and a 
Pioneer DVR-109. I never did get to finish her properly, but it was a 
fun hack, and as I still have the 630 shell when I come across a Mini 
at the right price in the future, Mimi shall be reborn :)



... the TI-Books really scuff up bad and show case damage much
worse than the Pismos, in my opinion.


Heh, no argument there! When people ask me what laptop they should 
look at, I always point them to the iBooks. Sturdier, tougher, and 
more tolerant of the daily grind than any PowerBook, almost as 
flexible, and still the best portable computing dollar you can get 
today. The Pismo is, despite what Steve & Jon come up with, possibly 
the second-best machine *EVER* to have come from Apple, with the TAM 
holding first place. One day I will own a TAM *dreams ...*


Anyway. I've got two Wallstreets' worth of parts here, time to see if 
I can get the Japanese-market version going smoothly at 250 MHz ...



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Re: Value of a Pismo?

[R. P. Bell]

Geoffrey...

I think, given your recent update and the images you supplied, that my original 
estimate of cost is very close to what you can expect, as they stand. If I were 
you, I'd try to sell them locally (eg. Australia), if only because 
international 
shipping is somewhat prohibitive. I didn't try to do the math on the conversion 
to Australian value.

On #1, the scuffed rubber and chinks around the edges will hurt value, but I 
still think you are in the ball-game with my estimate.  The single bad pixel is 
only marginably problematic, but a buyer will try to use that as a bargaining 
point ("what else is going wrong with it?").

Have you thought of taking the best of each (screen from #2, plastics from the 
best, even if you have to mix parts, etc.) and make one sterling machine?  That 
would raise value to US$375-500--maybe even US$525, if it is really and 
honestly 
"primo" and you have a motivated buyer).

The OS 9.1 system, no disks, is a wash (another reason to rob Peter to pay 
Paul).  The OX 10.3.2 with distro is good and greatly supports the valuation I 
gave, especially for a single machine made out of the best of both.  Think 
about 
bundling all the best: Best plastics/Flawless LCD/768 RAM/40 HD/Good 
battery/VST 
Zip/Apple case/10.3.2 w-CDs/best AC adapter and cord, all carefully cleaned and 
detailed (the keymarks on the screen are NOT permanent, regardless of what 
you've been told.  I clean them from my Pismo screen about twice a year)--I 
say, 
that makes a really nice package deal for a motivated buyer.  Do you have 
original docs?

Then, the other machine could be parted out (even I need another 2.5" drive 
(though I would like to have 40 GB or even more), and would consider a 500 MHz 
logic, too--and I'm just one of several, I'm sure).  Those parts would bring 
you 
$75-120, giving you about US$100 more than my previous estimates.  Personally, 
I'd pay more for a primo Pismo than for a 1st generation TI-Book (and maybe 
even 
for 2nd generation--the TI-Books really scuff up bad and show case damage much 
worse than the Pismos, in my opinion).

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Re: Value of a Pismo?

[Geoffrey Peters]

Tsk tsk, naughty top-poster! :)

Stardate 060208.21:08 -0800. A subspace message from R. P. Bell reads:


Most of us will tell you that, hands down, the Pismo is probably the brightest
star ever put in the notebook sky by Apple.


No argument - why else would OWC still be offering their G4 
modification upgrades :)


The Amrani-clad Ferrari gets supercharged, woo! (if I were keeping 
one - I don't have a need for portable computing - I would get this 
done)


You're probably looking at from US$250 to US$400 for #1, depending 
on condition

(especially the LCD; bad pixels really kill the value, as do bad plastics and
keyboard) ...


#1 has got a single stuck white/blue pixel, roughly in the middle of 
the top right quadrant of the screen, otherwise it is all good. As I 
mentioned, rubber is a little scuffed but intact (no aluminium 
showing), and a few wear-marks & scuffs around the corners. 
Suprisingly, it has all four feet :)


http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-1-kit.jpg 
http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-1-screen.jpg


(I forgot to put the original 10.3.2 disc-pack in that shot ... oh well)


and US$100-200 (max) for #2 (incidentally, can you verify that #2
will boot from the AC adapter?).


This one, the screen overlay has zero dead pixels, but its overlay 
has a few key-mark rubbing-spots that are noticable when the screen 
is lit. And she runs fine off the mains :) It does have all four feet 
mising, though, and a split that runs from the clicker to the latch, 
along the botton edge of the front.


http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-2-kit.jpg 
http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-2-screen.jpg


All keys present on both, all keys work on both.


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Re: Value of a Pismo?

[R. P. Bell]

Geoffrey...

Most of us will tell you that, hands down, the Pismo is probably the brightest 
star ever put in the notebook sky by Apple.  True, they are becoming somewhat 
dated, but my PB 2000-400 Firewire is loaded with 1 GB RAM and a new 30 GB HD, 
running OS X.3.9 and just keeps on working.  The screen is great, the plastics 
are almost flawless and the keyboard--after several years of operation--is 
still 
spot on.  Of course, I baby it...and I'll probably take the leap to a new 
MacBook Pro in another year or so, but when all is said and done, the Pismo is 
just a great computer at a very attractive price point (high $$ for a used 
computer, to be sure--especially after 5 years, but then, what PC notebook can 
compare favorably to that?).

You're probably looking at from US$250 to US$400 for #1, depending on condition 
(especially the LCD; bad pixels really kill the value, as do bad plastics and 
keyboard), and US$100-200 (max) for #2 (incidentally, can you verify that #2 
will boot from the AC adapter?).  If you get an off of US$500 cash for both, 
I'd 
recommend that you very seriously consider taking it.  Shipping from down under 
will, of course, hurt US sales value.

Good luck.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Geoffrey Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: Value of a Pismo?


|I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of
| how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor
| scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll
| put photos up if people are curious.
|
| #1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr
| run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO
| power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs.
|
| #2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by
| the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first
| LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no
| discs.
|
| Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from
| US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated.
|
|
| Geoffrey
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Re: Value of a Pismo?

[Steve Peckey]

On 2/8/06, Geoffrey Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of
> how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor
> scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll
> put photos up if people are curious.
>
> #1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr
> run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO
> power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs.
>
> #2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by
> the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first
> LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no
> discs.
>
> Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from
> US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated.
>

>
> Geoffrey

I wanted to give you a $ figure but with all things its only worth
someone is willing to pay for it. I find it best when selling items to
look on ebay then look at the used mac sites for a compatible unit.
There in the middle is the value.
I hope this helps I am sure that many list members will give you a $
amount from their experience with them. I can say that a good pismo is
a prize.

Steve



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Value of a Pismo?

[Geoffrey Peters]

I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of 
how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor 
scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll 
put photos up if people are curious.


#1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr 
run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO 
power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs.


#2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by 
the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first 
LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no 
discs.


Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from 
US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated.



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Re: adding Classic to Pismo with Tiger, is 9.2.2 better than 9.2.1?

[Geoffrey Peters]

Stardate 060204.16:08 -0500. A subspace message from Andrew in Ann Arbor reads:


 I have got the 9.2.1 to 9.2.2 update, is there any benefit to going to 9.2.2


Oh, *hell* yes.

Stability.

OS X will work (after a fashion) with 9.2 and 9.2.1, but it *expects* 9.2.2.

Apply the update, post-haste. Or you will find that you will 
encounter far too many error type 10's and 11's when booted into OS 
9, and frequent unexplained quits of Classic whilst under OS X.



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[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

Following a suggestion I started my Pismo from the OS9.2.1 CD and 
installed it on the internal disk (40 Gb one partition).
I had to tell it to save the old system folder but after that It went 
through the install like normal.

It still boots in Tiger so I haven't ruined that installation.
I have got the 9.2.1 to 9.2.2 update, is there any benefit to going to 
9.2.2 or am I better off at 9.2.1?


I can start Classic now (before I got a "not installed" error).
Now I need to get the Belkin drivers for the USB-SCSI adaptor and see 
if I can make it work in Classic.

I'm assuming I need to be in classic when I install the drivers?

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Re: adding Classic to Pismo running Tiger?

[Howard Katz]

Forgive my faulty memory re: which disk here--

To install classic under Tiger, you boot up the accessories(?) disc
that came with the Tiger package (ok--I said my memory was
faulty--it's the disk everyone looks at and figures they have no use
for.  :) )

One of the selections there is to install classic--use that and you'll
be all set.


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Re: adding Classic to Pismo running Tiger?

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On Feb 2, 2006, at 9:32 pm, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:


Hello All

I've been loving Tiger on my 500 MHz Pismo but I want to figure out  
a SCSI connection before I sell off the trusty Lombard and the best  
solution I've found to date is a USB to SCSI adapter that only runs  
under OS9.

So I want to install Classic on the Pismo.
The Pismo has a 40 Gb hard drive with 19 Gb used.
Get Info identifies it as "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)"
Can I just install OS9 or do I need to partition the disk first?
If I need to partition can I copy the Tiger installation to my  
external Firewire disk, partition the Pismo drive and copy the  
Tiger installation back?

Is there a better way?

Thanks

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Andrew, you do not need to partition the disk. Just go ahead and  
install OS 9.


A;an

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[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

Hello All

I've been loving Tiger on my 500 MHz Pismo but I want to figure out a 
SCSI connection before I sell off the trusty Lombard and the best 
solution I've found to date is a USB to SCSI adapter that only runs 
under OS9.

So I want to install Classic on the Pismo.
The Pismo has a 40 Gb hard drive with 19 Gb used.
Get Info identifies it as "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)"
Can I just install OS9 or do I need to partition the disk first?
If I need to partition can I copy the Tiger installation to my external 
Firewire disk, partition the Pismo drive and copy the Tiger 
installation back?

Is there a better way?

Thanks

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Re: Pismo battery woes?

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 02/02/06 11:22, "Geoffrey Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd been given a Pismo (yes, givem, the last of the truly gorgeous
> laptops Apple ever made) but it wasn't going ... it *had* been
> functioning, but was then stored (with a full charge) in the bottom
> of a filing cabinet for two months before I got my lucky li' mitts on
> this G3/500/768MB/20GB beauty with the unmarred case. Sent it off to
> get fixed.
> 
> The case issue aside (a long story), the battery which was 14 months
> old, had been swapped on me by the body repair centre.
> 
> It is being recognised, as in under 9.1 the battery appears in the
> menubar, but it reads 0 % and there's no lightning bolt. Press the
> li'l button on the side of the battery, and the firsyt green LED
> blinks a few times.
> 
> Is this battery totally scrubbed, or has someone figured out a way to
> rejuve these dears?
> 
> (btw: I'm now -- Hi!! *waves*)
> 
> 
> Geoffrey
> -- 
> --  Endian Little Hate I --- --
>   "I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes
> ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect." -- Brains
> (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969)

Hey, good for you, Geoffrey!

The battery might be dead but you might be able to revive it. You can search
in the G-Books archive as this subject comes out regularly.

BTW, that's the first time I see a quote from Brains of the 'Thunderbirds'!
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[Geoffrey Peters]

I'd been given a Pismo (yes, givem, the last of the truly gorgeous 
laptops Apple ever made) but it wasn't going ... it *had* been 
functioning, but was then stored (with a full charge) in the bottom 
of a filing cabinet for two months before I got my lucky li' mitts on 
this G3/500/768MB/20GB beauty with the unmarred case. Sent it off to 
get fixed.


The case issue aside (a long story), the battery which was 14 months 
old, had been swapped on me by the body repair centre.


It is being recognised, as in under 9.1 the battery appears in the 
menubar, but it reads 0 % and there's no lightning bolt. Press the 
li'l button on the side of the battery, and the firsyt green LED 
blinks a few times.


Is this battery totally scrubbed, or has someone figured out a way to 
rejuve these dears?


(btw: I'm now -- Hi!! *waves*)


Geoffrey
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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

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> are the units just standard "Laptop IDE"?
> 
> I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same
> connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a G4
> Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.

Yup.

Should be a drive set to Master, and if you use a different drive the front
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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

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On Feb 1, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Scott Lawrence wrote:
I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same  
connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a  
G4 Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.


There is an adapter board on the back of the drive. Under the adapter  
is the standard laptop drive connector. I used a Samsung combo drive  
from a dell in my wife's Pismo.


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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 01/02/06 09:37, "Scott Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
> 
>> 
 DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
 Pismos.
>> 
>>> Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
>>> buy a new one?
>> 
>> I tend to replace the mechanism, never tried to repair them.
> 
> are the units just standard "Laptop IDE"?
> 

Yes, they are all IDE or ATAPI in the case of CD-ROM/DVD drives. Maybe not a
familiar form factor but it should be standard.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Scott Lawrence]

On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:45 PM, James Sanderson wrote:



On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:



DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


How do you know the LG model from any of the others?


On mine, i was definitively able to tell by disassembling the unit.

Using a #0 phillips screwdriver, remove the two screws holding the  
plastic flap on the back, then the two insanely tiny screws on either  
side of the unit.  (notice that the two that go through plastic are  
about 2mm longer than the others)


You can then lift the unit out of the carrier.  The label is on the  
bottom.


:)

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Scott Lawrence]

On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:




DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
Pismos.



Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
buy a new one?


I tend to replace the mechanism, never tried to repair them.


are the units just standard "Laptop IDE"?

I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same  
connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a G4  
Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.


-s

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
>> Pismos.
>> 
>> I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they
>> show the symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.
> 
> How do you know the LG model from any of the others?

It tells you in Apple System Profiler, or on the drive caddy it says
DRN-8080.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[James Sanderson]

On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:



DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


How do you know the LG model from any of the others?

Jim Sanderson

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Tom and Lisa Peters]

Hi all.  I just joined.

I recently came into posession of a broken G3 Powerbook "Pismo".  It 
seemed relatively complete (no hard drive, no keyboard, no psu, but 
cpu, ram, dvd-rom, battery).  I borrowed a 3400 from work, and tried 
out the pismo with it, but nothing.


I completely disassembled it, down to the power connector, to find 
that it had sheared from the board:

http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0562

so I desoldered, straightned, and reconnected it:
http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0566

I plugged it all back together, along with a 20gig spare drive I 
had, and it gave me the ? Folder.  YAY!


I just got done installing OS 9 on a 1 gig partition, and OS 10.2 on 
the remaining partition.  It all works really well.


(I do still need a shield for the ram/cpu area, keyboard, and power supply)

I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that 
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the 
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it 
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.


Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

-s

(I've also got a 15" TiBook 500 (Rev A), and my current machine, a 
15" AlBook 1.67ghz... which belong to work, but for all intents and 
purposes, my machines.)


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Nice rework on the sound/AC board.

From what I gather the lombard/pismo DVDs are getting flaky by now. 
Luckily, you can replace the mechanisms with a number of other 
devices you can find on Ebay.  This is a good reference page:


http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html#dvdr

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
>> Pismos.

> Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
> buy a new one?

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Scott Lawrence]

On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:

I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.

Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?


DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and  
buy a new one?


As mentioned in the previous post, I'm not afraid to bring a  
soldering iron to the thing.


-s

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that
> over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the
> stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it
> doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.
> 
> Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in Pismos.

I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they show the
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Re: Best Wireless Solution for Pismo?

[Caleb Cupples]

> I can confirm that the current version of the Linksys wpc54gs card works
> fine with the Airport software, no additional drivers required.
>
> Version 1 of wpc54g card also works fine but the Version 2 card does not
> as it does not have the Broadcom chipset in it.

Also on the list of good cards is the Sonnet Aria Extreme, as it also has the 
Broadcom chipset, and it's not bad at $70. I have one that I got for my 
Lombard, and I'd be using it, except for the fact I'm stuck on 9 at the 
moment.

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Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

[Scott Lawrence]

Hi all.  I just joined.

I recently came into posession of a broken G3 Powerbook "Pismo".  It  
seemed relatively complete (no hard drive, no keyboard, no psu, but  
cpu, ram, dvd-rom, battery).  I borrowed a 3400 from work, and tried  
out the pismo with it, but nothing.


I completely disassembled it, down to the power connector, to find  
that it had sheared from the board:

http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0562

so I desoldered, straightned, and reconnected it:
http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0566

I plugged it all back together, along with a 20gig spare drive I had,  
and it gave me the ? Folder.  YAY!


I just got done installing OS 9 on a 1 gig partition, and OS 10.2 on  
the remaining partition.  It all works really well.


(I do still need a shield for the ram/cpu area, keyboard, and power  
supply)


I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that  
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the  
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it  
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.


Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

-s

(I've also got a 15" TiBook 500 (Rev A), and my current machine, a  
15" AlBook 1.67ghz... which belong to work, but for all intents and  
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Re: Best Wireless Solution for Pismo?

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> Anyone have an idea of the best solution to update a G3 500 Pismo with 
> wireless capabilities?
>
> --
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>
>   
I can confirm that the current version of the Linksys wpc54gs card works
fine with the Airport software, no additional drivers required.

Version 1 of wpc54g card also works fine but the Version 2 card does not
as it does not have the Broadcom chipset in it.

The advantage of these cards over all the others is WPA support, the
IOExpert and Orange drivers currently only support WEP.

The DLink usb (DWL-122 from memory) also works, again with no WPA
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Re: Best Wireless Solution for Pismo?

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> Anyone have an idea of the best solution to update a G3 500 Pismo with
> wireless capabilities?

Old fashioned plain ol' dull boring Airport card. Works great in mine.


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Best Wireless Solution for Pismo?

[mginn5]

Anyone have an idea of the best solution to update a G3 500 Pismo with wireless 
capabilities?

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Pismo hanging

[Tannis Baker]

I just bought some new memory (upgrading to 768 from 512 mg) and a combo drive 
for my G3
Pismo operating 9.2.2. My relatively computer saavy and I installed it 
ourselves using the
laptop's owner's manual - and all seemed to go well.

The combo came with a variety of drivers for pismos operating OS 9 and I copied 
the one
that seemed right to my extension folder, restarted and and the drive played a 
DVD promptly.

However, after that the computer would not wake up - the screen was black and 
made no
noise - without using Shift/option/Command + start button.  A little later, it 
was still
not waking up but at least made some noise to indicate that it was running - 
holding down
the power key alone worked that time to wake it up.

So, we tried zapping the pram and rebuilding the desktop and that solved the 
wakeup problem.

But the next problem seems insolvable and I am wondering if anyone would have 
any advice.
When waking up it takes a few seconds to go from black to grey and then about 
10 seconds
for the open program to show up.  When restarting, it flickers in the grey 
screen a bit
and then starts to open fairly regularly (albeit seemingly more slowly than 
pre-upgrade),
then it hangs on the desktop with the MacHD icon highlighted for about 10 
seconds, frozen
and then finally the Startup apps open. (In my case it is Claris Emailer, 
stickies and
Mozilla.)

I tried turning off the combo-drive extension (and restarting) but the results 
were the
same so now I am wondering if it has something to do with the amount of memory 
(> 512
mgs)and 9.2.2.

Thanks for the advice!

Tannis




 

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Re: format a Hitachi drive in a firewire case on a Pismo?

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 29/01/06 12:30, Fabian Fang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2006, at 5:17 AM, kaldav wrote:
> 
>> I have bought a new Hitachi drive for my Pismo (listed as
>> compatible on OWC) and put it in an external Sarotech firewire
>> case. However, it doesn't show up with Disk Utility in OSX10.3.9.
>> 
>> Then I re-started from a 10.3.2 installer CD, twice by holding down
>> the C key, and it is not seen with Disk Utility.
>> 
>> I also re-started in OS9.22 and Drive SetUp did not see it to
>> format it.
>> 
>> Is there a trick to getting this drive to appear on the desktop to
>> format it?
> 
> I believe that Sarotech FireWire enclosures use Oxford 911 or 912
> chipsets.  You may have to install the Oxford Java Utility for your
> drive to show up.  If so, please write me offlist for specific
> procedure.

Did you check that the cable is good? I thought that Oxford chipsets were
pretty much compatible with Mac OS X...

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Re: format a Hitachi drive in a firewire case on a Pismo?

[Fabian Fang]

On Jan 29, 2006, at 5:17 AM, kaldav wrote:

I have bought a new Hitachi drive for my Pismo (listed as  
compatible on OWC) and put it in an external Sarotech firewire  
case. However, it doesn't show up with Disk Utility in OSX10.3.9.


Then I re-started from a 10.3.2 installer CD, twice by holding down  
the C key, and it is not seen with Disk Utility.


I also re-started in OS9.22 and Drive SetUp did not see it to  
format it.


Is there a trick to getting this drive to appear on the desktop to  
format it?


I believe that Sarotech FireWire enclosures use Oxford 911 or 912  
chipsets.  You may have to install the Oxford Java Utility for your  
drive to show up.  If so, please write me offlist for specific  
procedure.


Fabian


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Re: format a Hitachi drive in a firewire case on a Pismo?

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on 29/01/06 08:17, kaldav at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> I have bought a new Hitachi drive for my Pismo (listed as compatible
> on OWC) and put it in an external Sarotech firewire case. However, it
> doesn't show up with Disk Utility in OSX10.3.9.
> 
> Then I re-started from a 10.3.2 installer CD, twice by holding down
> the C key, and it is not seen with Disk Utility.
> 
> I also re-started in OS9.22 and Drive SetUp did not see it to format it.
> 
> Is there a trick to getting this drive to appear on the desktop to format it?

I don't think the problem is with the drive. I would think that the problem
is with the Firewire enclosure. Does that enclosure need external power? I
have one that won't work if not connected to an external source of power.

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Re: Pismo battery revival?

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> Hello,
> I had a Pismo battery that showed four green lights when the button
> on the side was pushed.
> I let it sit for a few weeks without power and now only one battery
> light blinks green.
> Is the battery dead and can I revive it somehow?

The blinking light means it is flat.

Getting to 4 lights doesn't mean that the battery is A1, I have seen many
that claim to fully charge but only last ten minutes under load.

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[kaldav]

Hello,
I had a Pismo battery that showed four green lights when the button 
on the side was pushed.
I let it sit for a few weeks without power and now only one battery 
light blinks green.

Is the battery dead and can I revive it somehow?
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format a Hitachi drive in a firewire case on a Pismo?

[kaldav]

Hello,
I have bought a new Hitachi drive for my Pismo (listed as compatible 
on OWC) and put it in an external Sarotech firewire case. However, it 
doesn't show up with Disk Utility in OSX10.3.9.


Then I re-started from a 10.3.2 installer CD, twice by holding down 
the C key, and it is not seen with Disk Utility.


I also re-started in OS9.22 and Drive SetUp did not see it to format it.

Is there a trick to getting this drive to appear on the desktop to format it?
Thanks.

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Re: make bezel easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo?

[VICTORIA.DUGGAN]

On Jan 25, 2006, at 5:42 AM, Illovox Media wrote:


Nifty idea.  How do you do it?



Remove the cover from the zip then remove the little sticker from the  
side of the slot and extend the slot with a dremel.


to stop everything getting in (dust etc) super glue a piece of felt  
(color of your choice to the inside of the bezel before fitting) once  
fitted and dried use a razor (not the phone type) to cut the slot in  
the felt and thats it.


vicki

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make bezel easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo?

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Nifty idea.  How do you do it?

on 1/24/06 8:43 AM, G-Books at G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com wrote:

> From: "VICTORIA.DUGGAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:05:16 +
> 
> 
> On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:17 AM, kaldav wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an  iBook G4 12" 1ghz would
>> work in a Pismo?
>> Thanks.
>> 
> Hi Yes it will it is just a straight drop into the pismo caddy but
> the face plate will not fit as it is slot loading. You can make one
> easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Dan K]

Caleb Cupples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put
>one in my Lombard eventually.
I figure an original SuperDrive ought to go for $50 or so, based on the
prices of current models, eg: "Pioneer DVR-K05 8X Dual Layer Slim DVD±RW
Drive" @ US$87:


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

KNEW I was forgetting one! Wegener Media   
sells kits with the correct bezel and all for starting at $150:  




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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts.  
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy www.powerbookguy.com> sells one for $129.


Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for  
superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or  
will I have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn?


The one from the Tibook worked just fine right off the bat, but that  
was in 10.3. You might have to run Patchburn if the drive post-dates  
Jaguar.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

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On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 12:43 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:




It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the 
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in 
my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less 
important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the 
old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put 
one in my Lombard eventually.



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts. 
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy 
<http://www.powerbookguy.com> sells one for $129.


Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for 
superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or will I 
have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn?


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson  
wrote:




It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the  
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in  
my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less  
important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the  
old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to  
put one in my Lombard eventually.



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts.  
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy www.powerbookguy.com> sells one for $129.


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Re: DVD-ROM Drive for Pismo

[Caleb Cupples]

On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:29 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Michael Kern wrote:

Can a Toshiba DVD-Rom from a Dell laptop be made to fit in the caddy 
of a

Pismo drive

Some can. XLR8 Your Mac <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has information 
on the known working models.




I don't know about DVD drives, but I've got an old Toshiba CD-ROM that 
I pulled out of my first PC laptop that works in my Lombard. Of course, 
I only used it long enough to verify that it works, before I swapped 
the stock LG DVD drive back in.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Caleb Cupples]

On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote:



It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive 
from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. 
It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to 
attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put 
one in my Lombard eventually.


Thanks,
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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 12:17 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an  iBook G4 12" 1ghz would  
work in a Pismo?


It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the  
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my  
Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less  
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Re: DVD-ROM Drive for Pismo

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Michael Kern wrote:

Can a Toshiba DVD-Rom from a Dell laptop be made to fit in the  
caddy of a

Pismo drive

Some can. XLR8 Your Mac <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has information  
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Can a Toshiba DVD-Rom from a Dell laptop be made to fit in the caddy of a
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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

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On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:17 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an  iBook G4 12" 1ghz would  
work in a Pismo?

Thanks.

Hi Yes it will it is just a straight drop into the pismo caddy but  
the face plate will not fit as it is slot loading. You can make one  
easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo.



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Re: Battery Time Left (Pismo)

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On Jan 20, 2006, at 6:05 AM, John McGibney wrote:

I use it on a TiBook and an AlBook both with 10.4.4. I've never had  
a problem with Panther nor Tiger.


Tjhis is a Pismo-specific Tiger issue. My wife's Pismo was also  
unable to calculate the remaining battery/charge time after the  
update from Panther to Tiger. It's a known - and unfixed - bug. I'm  
not sure Apple cares too much about it.


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Re: My Pismo is dead

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> Thanks for the responses . Even though I used it almost everyday, I
> guess I left it unplugged for a day or two when it stopped working.
> Resetting the Power Manager didn't do the trick. I've left it plugged
> in now for 3 days and today it booted up. Go figure.

Recharged the PRAM battery, common problem.

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Re: Battery Time Left (Pismo)

[John McGibney]

I use it on a TiBook and an AlBook both with 10.4.4. I've never had a  
problem with Panther nor Tiger.
Try deleting theorg.orange-carb.SlimBatteryMonitor.plist  file  
from your user/library/preference folder.


John

On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:50 AM, Daniel Colwell wrote:


On Thursday, Jan 19, John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I use SlimBatteryMonitor, it loads a menu icon that can be color
coded, shows time left till empty, shows percent charged while
charging and pops up a dialog box when the battery gets to 10% left.
And its donationware, pay only if you want to.

John


John,

I use SlimBatteryMonitor as well. In fact, that application is how  
I first noticed my problem. What hardware/OS are you using? Some  
others with a Pismo have had my same problem. SlimBatteryMonitor  
stopped showing the time left, just about when I updated to Tiger.


In fact, after all my testing, I still run it in the Menu bar.

Just hoping for a fix so I don't have to switch to Dashboard every  
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Re: Battery Time Left (Pismo)

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On Thursday, Jan 19, John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I use SlimBatteryMonitor, it loads a menu icon that can be color
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charging and pops up a dialog box when the battery gets to 10% left.
And its donationware, pay only if you want to.

John


John,

I use SlimBatteryMonitor as well. In fact, that application is how I  
first noticed my problem. What hardware/OS are you using? Some others  
with a Pismo have had my same problem. SlimBatteryMonitor stopped  
showing the time left, just about when I updated to Tiger.


In fact, after all my testing, I still run it in the Menu bar.

Just hoping for a fix so I don't have to switch to Dashboard every  
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Re: My Pismo is dead

[Ryan Lee]

Thanks for the responses . Even though I used it almost everyday, I  
guess I left it unplugged for a day or two when it stopped working.  
Resetting the Power Manager didn't do the trick. I've left it plugged  
in now for 3 days and today it booted up. Go figure.


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Re: My Pismo is dead

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> I'll second the suggestion to leave the 'Book plugged in for a week or so
> and then see if it'll fire up. I've had several PowerBooks fail to boot
> after sitting unused for months. A good long soak in the electron pool
> appears to be just the ticket. FYI, I've seen this with Pismo _and_ with
> gen 1 400/500 TiBooks (very similar inside, doncha know.)

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Re: My Pismo is dead

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On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Dan K wrote:

I'll second the suggestion to leave the 'Book plugged in for a week  
or so
and then see if it'll fire up. I've had several PowerBooks fail to  
boot

after sitting unused for months. A good long soak in the electron pool
appears to be just the ticket. FYI, I've seen this with Pismo _and_  
with

gen 1 400/500 TiBooks (very similar inside, doncha know.)


I've also had very good luck on "dead" Pismos by propping up the  
keyboard, pulling the PRAM battery lead (red, black, white wire by  
the battery) and powering the 'book on. It should boot fine if it's  
just the rechargeable PRAM not waking up after it's long sleep. After  
the 'book boots, I've simply plugged the PRAM battery back in and it  
charges back up.


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I'll second the suggestion to leave the 'Book plugged in for a week or so 
and then see if it'll fire up. I've had several PowerBooks fail to boot 
after sitting unused for months. A good long soak in the electron pool 
appears to be just the ticket. FYI, I've seen this with Pismo _and_ with 
gen 1 400/500 TiBooks (very similar inside, doncha know.)

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> My Pismo recently stopped booting up. 

Have you been using it regularly? I ask, because I didn't use mine of 
over 7 months and it wouldn't start. I left it plugged in for a week 
and it eventually restarted.
I had tried restting the PMU, to no avail. I was lucky, I guess.

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[sandra ragan]

My brother got a Pismo free a couple weeks ago because it was "dead" 
according to someone's IT techs .. after what sounds like a couple hard 
boots, it came back to life again... maybe it should be renamed the 
Phoenix?


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On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Ryan Lee wrote:

My Pismo recently stopped booting up. No life at all. No green lights 
on the battery. It had poor battery life but I kept it plugged in all 
the time. I've tried removing the battery and swapped power cords 
with one I know was working but still no response. What could be the 
problem and how can I resurrect it?


Try resetting the Power Manager 
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449>


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On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Ryan Lee wrote:

My Pismo recently stopped booting up. No life at all. No green  
lights on the battery. It had poor battery life but I kept it  
plugged in all the time. I've tried removing the battery and  
swapped power cords with one I know was working but still no  
response. What could be the problem and how can I resurrect it?


Try resetting the Power Manager <http://docs.info.apple.com/ 
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My Pismo is dead

[Ryan Lee]

My Pismo recently stopped booting up. No life at all. No green lights 
on the battery. It had poor battery life but I kept it plugged in all 
the time. I've tried removing the battery and swapped power cords with 
one I know was working but still no response. What could be the problem 
and how can I resurrect it?


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Re: Pink Hue on Pismo display

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 16/01/06 16:16, MMB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In my case I had to replace the VDU in my Powerbook. I suggest you
> check the G-Book archives over the last year and use "pink" as a search
> term. The topic has come up a few times.

What is a "VDU"?

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Re: Pink Hue on Pismo display

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> Mad Dog Tom and Lisa Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> have suggested
>> that it's a failing backlight.
> 
> It is the backlight, you really don't need to worry until it fails,
> but when it does you will have serious trouble seeing anything on the
> screen. It's sort of like a florescent lamp going bad. Just takes
> longer to warm up.

It is, I've been using one with this symptom in my test rig for about 18
months and it has gradually got worse but is still fine when warmed up.

Replacement second hand LCDs aren't stupidly expensive these days, so
personally I'd hold out until you can't bare it any more and replace it with
one from eBay or wherever.

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Re: Pink Hue on Pismo display

[Alan Miller]

On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:16 PM, MMB wrote:


J Sanderson:

You wrote:

I am wondering if anyone here can remind me what causes the above  
symptom.  It goes away after a few seconds and the colour is fine.  
The pink colour returns after waking the comp from sleep.  The  
colour always goes away.  Is this something to be very concerned  
about, somewhat concerned about , not to worry about in the near  
future but...


Mad Dog Tom and Lisa Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> have suggested  
that it's a failing backlight.



It is the backlight, you really don't need to worry until it fails,  
but when it does you will have serious trouble seeing anything on the  
screen. It's sort of like a florescent lamp going bad. Just takes  
longer to warm up.

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Re: Pink Hue on Pismo display

[MMB]

J Sanderson:

You wrote:



I am wondering if anyone here can remind me what causes the above
symptom.  It goes away after a few seconds and the colour is fine.
The pink colour returns after waking the comp from sleep.  The colour
always goes away.  Is this something to be very concerned about,
somewhat concerned about , not to worry about in the near future but...

Mad Dog Tom and Lisa Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> have suggested  
that it's a failing backlight. I have a Powerbook G4 Ti 867 which  
developed this symptom recently (and the pinkness increased). You have  
to check out whether it is the monitor - can you plug your Pismo into  
another display?


In my case I had to replace the VDU in my Powerbook. I suggest you  
check the G-Book archives over the last year and use "pink" as a search  
term. The topic has come up a few times.


<http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/>
I found 64 matches:
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Re: Fwd: Flickering Pismo screen

[Mark Philip]

Hi all, my trusty 400MHz Pismo is now flickering. Is there 
something I can do about this? Is it a display ribbon cable issue? 
Thanks...

--
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Just fixed it. Took out the display invertor board and made sure 
everything was tight.

I love this old Pismo!

Cheers...

Hmm, the problem came back again.
Any idea how to resolve this?
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Fwd: Flickering Pismo screen

[Mark Philip]

Hi all, my trusty 400MHz Pismo is now flickering. Is there something 
I can do about this? Is it a display ribbon cable issue? Thanks...

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Just fixed it. Took out the display invertor board and made sure 
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I love this old Pismo!

Cheers...

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I can do about this? Is it a display ribbon cable issue? Thanks...

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Re: Pink Hue on Pismo display

[Tom and Lisa Peters]

I am wondering if anyone here can remind me what causes the above 
symptom.  It goes away after a few seconds and the colour is fine.  
The pink colour returns after waking the comp from sleep.  The 
colour always goes away.  Is this something to be very concerned 
about, somewhat concerned about , not to worry about in the near 
future but...


TIA,

J Sanderson


If I recall correctly, its a failing backlight.  It is fixable with 
the correct replacement part.


Mad Dog

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Pink Hue on Pismo display

[James Sanderson]

I am wondering if anyone here can remind me what causes the above  
symptom.  It goes away after a few seconds and the colour is fine.   
The pink colour returns after waking the comp from sleep.  The colour  
always goes away.  Is this something to be very concerned about,  
somewhat concerned about , not to worry about in the near future but...


TIA,

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Re: no "Battery Time Left" on Pismo

[John McGibney]

Various upgrades to Tiger screwed up Apple's battery monitor  
software. Try using one of the freebee aftermarket ones found at  
versiontracker.com. They seem immune to the upgrade bug.


John


On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:


For some reason I can no longer get info on how long my battery has
left in hours and minutes.

I can get the info in percentage, but if I ask for it to be shown as
time left, it says "calculating..." or is just a blank, depending on
which program I use to measure it. I have "show battery status in the
menu bar" checked in the Energy Saver Systems Preference. I also use
SlimBatteryMonitor. Both show the same percentage, but no longer the
time.

As best I remember this was working up till just a week or so ago.

I have a 400MHz Pismo, 40G, 768MB. I recently upgraded to Tiger and
then 10.4.3. Could have been the same time. Battery is fairly new. I
was getting about 4 hours or so last I remember seeing the time. Is
this a Tiger issue?

I tried running just on battery till it went to sleep (about 1-2 %),
then charging to full. Did this twice, still no joy so I tried  
"reset-

nvram, reset-all". Still nothing but %.


I've got the same problem with a 500 MHz Pismo running a clean  
install of Tiger with 512 Mb RAM.
It's  a new aftermarket battery so I haven't worried about it but  
it would be nice to have.
I did try running it down till it shut off but that made no  
difference.
Seems like if my 520 could figure out time remaining the Pismo  
should be able to manage it.



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Re: no "Battery Time Left" on Pismo

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

For some reason I can no longer get info on how long my battery has
left in hours and minutes.

I can get the info in percentage, but if I ask for it to be shown as
time left, it says "calculating..." or is just a blank, depending on
which program I use to measure it. I have "show battery status in the
menu bar" checked in the Energy Saver Systems Preference. I also use
SlimBatteryMonitor. Both show the same percentage, but no longer the
time.

As best I remember this was working up till just a week or so ago.

I have a 400MHz Pismo, 40G, 768MB. I recently upgraded to Tiger and
then 10.4.3. Could have been the same time. Battery is fairly new. I
was getting about 4 hours or so last I remember seeing the time. Is
this a Tiger issue?

I tried running just on battery till it went to sleep (about 1-2 %),
then charging to full. Did this twice, still no joy so I tried "reset-
nvram, reset-all". Still nothing but %.


I've got the same problem with a 500 MHz Pismo running a clean install 
of Tiger with 512 Mb RAM.
It's  a new aftermarket battery so I haven't worried about it but it 
would be nice to have.

I did try running it down till it shut off but that made no difference.
Seems like if my 520 could figure out time remaining the Pismo should 
be able to manage it.



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Re: Fwd: Airport Issues after Pismo set to IRDA

[Barry Muller]

Well,

Based on some suggestions I connected the eMac to the
DSL modem directly.  All OK.  Then I reconnected the
airport, rebooted the base station and he DSL modem
and reset the base station using the eMac.  At first
it looked like this did the trick as Internet COnnect
showed that the eMac was connected, however neither of
my browsers could connect to any site - even after a
reboot.

THe pismo was looking for a p/w (which I changed on
the new set up) and then it found the base station and
the internet.  THe wierd part is that the eMac and the
Pismo show the same connect time, which they must be
getting from the base station, so what would cause my
browsers on the eMac not to be able to find a website?

Baffling!




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> 
> Sorry about x-posting.  I just joined the macnetwork
> list, but it seems there isn't much traffic there. 
> This does have a G-book component to the problem
> (actually the start of the problem) so maybe the
> list
> admin won't mind.
> 
> Barry
> 
> --- Barry Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > To: "Mac Network" 
> > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:48:13 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Barry Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Airport Issues after Pismo set to IRDA
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have an eMac running 10.2.8 w\ airport extreme
> > card and a Pismo running 10.4.3 with an airport
> card;
> > these (used to) connect to an Airport Extreme base
> that is
> > connected to a DSL modem (SBC).  When I first got
> > this "system" I managed to muddle through and get
> > everything working OK.
> > 
> > About a month ago I tried to synch my Wallstreet
> to
> > the Pismo using the IRDA port.  That didn't work
> for
> > me, but afterward nothing would connect to the
> > BaseStation.  I managed to get the Pismo back, but
> > the eMac only gives the error that it cannot find
> the
> > PPPOE host.  It does see the base station though. 
> > I've tried to set the to machines to the same
> > settings in system prefs/network, but the windows
> in
> Jaguar
> > are slightly different than in Tiger, so I it
> seems
> (to
> > me) that I cannot get the settings exactly the
> same
> > (eventhough I admit that is counter intuitive).
> > 
> > Any help is very much appreciated.  Please do not
> > hesitate to break out the finger puppets to
> explain
> > this to me as networks are a known weak-point in
> my
> > knowledge of computers.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Barry
> > 
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Re: Lombard vs. Pismo: Your experience?

[Alan Miller]

I really liked my Lombard, until I got the Pismo, Firewire, the last  
requirement for Tiger. They were both 400 MHz models, I can't say I  
see a big difference in speed. Bit built in Airport and Firewire have  
me on the Pismo over the Lombard laying at my feet. That and it's  
dead again, I can't even get a chime.


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On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Mark Pearson wrote:


I'm looking to move up from a 3400c to a Lombard or Pismo and want
your advice as to which to go for, or if there is a significant real
world difference.

I've combed the LEM site and EveryMac, but want more than just  
specs to go by.


I'd like to be able to surf the web wirelessly, write, and watch an
occasional DVD. I'm comfortable in OS 9, Jaguar, or Panther. I have no
current need for SCSI, and FW is nice, but not necessary. Budget is a
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Lombard vs. Pismo: Your experience?

[Mark Pearson]

I'm looking to move up from a 3400c to a Lombard or Pismo and want
your advice as to which to go for, or if there is a significant real
world difference.

I've combed the LEM site and EveryMac, but want more than just specs to go by.

I'd like to be able to surf the web wirelessly, write, and watch an
occasional DVD. I'm comfortable in OS 9, Jaguar, or Panther. I have no
current need for SCSI, and FW is nice, but not necessary. Budget is a
concern

Thanks for your opinions and experience.

Mark

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Re: any significance to Pismo screen cable color?

[Howard Katz]

Maybe there really is a difference, and one is a
boy-'book and the other is a girl-'book?  :)

LaterHoward

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> On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:30 PM, G-Books wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:23:52 +1100
> > From: kaldav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: any significance to Pismo screen cable color?
> >
> > Hello,
> > On a Pismo screen, could anyone please tell me if there is any
> > significance to the color of the cable that comes out of the screen
> > to the inverter board. I have seen blue or pink. Got to wondering if
> > there were certain brands of screens that matched certain inverter
> > boards better than others.
> > Thanks.
>
> I have taken apart probably 15 or so and quite a few Lombards, and
> there is no difference. Pink and Blue are interchangeable.
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Re: any significance to Pismo screen cable color?

[Jeff Hubatka]

On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:23:52 +1100
From: kaldav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: any significance to Pismo screen cable color?

Hello,
On a Pismo screen, could anyone please tell me if there is any
significance to the color of the cable that comes out of the screen
to the inverter board. I have seen blue or pink. Got to wondering if
there were certain brands of screens that matched certain inverter
boards better than others.
Thanks.


I have taken apart probably 15 or so and quite a few Lombards, and  
there is no difference. Pink and Blue are interchangeable.


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any significance to Pismo screen cable color?

[kaldav]

Hello,
On a Pismo screen, could anyone please tell me if there is any 
significance to the color of the cable that comes out of the screen 
to the inverter board. I have seen blue or pink. Got to wondering if 
there were certain brands of screens that matched certain inverter 
boards better than others.

Thanks.

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Re: which ipod for a Pismo?

[Geoffrey Loeffler]

I like and use the mini, I have a Pismo 500, it has a gig of ram but  
it’s firewire will work most excellent with the mini as your’s will  
too. Actually I connected the USB 1 and it works but not shazam like  
in firewire. These pismos are so nice, has to rank as the best and  
most versital book ever  made by Apple. I broke down and finally  
bought a new 17” PowerBook, but it sure does not fit like the pismo  
does and for writing letters and email, it will be from the Pismo

Have fun
G
On Dec 29, 2005, at 4:14 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could please tell me which version of the
ipod/s would work with a 400 mhz G3 Pismo laptop, 512 mb ram, firewire
and usb 1.
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sticky drawer on Pismo DVD drive

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

I've been trying to sort out a Lombard for my father in law and I have 
a 6x DVD drive that seems to work OK once you get the drive closed.
The drawer binds as I try and close it, sometimes I have to open it and 
clse it several times before I can get it to close all the way.

Once it's closed  it works fine.
There seems to be a lot of friction in the slides so either something's 
jumped the track or something needs lubrication.
If I can't find anything obvoiusly out of line I'm thinking of a little 
silicon lube on the slides.


Any suggestions?

Thanks

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Pismo hard drive- replace with a Toshiba?

[kaldav]

Hello,
There have been discussions concerning replacing a Pismo hard drive 
and the need for an ATA5 rather than ATA6 drive.
Has anyone tried a Toshiba drive with a multi interface of ATA 
2/3/4/5/6 like the Toshiba 40GB 2.5" Super Slimline (9.5mm) HDD 
MK4025GAS? One specification sheet said it was ATA6, but the seller 
said it was multiinterface. Also, I think it is 4200 rpm. Thanks for 
any advice about this drive, or something similar.


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Re: Upgrading Pismo

[VICTORIA.DUGGAN]

On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Tannis Baker wrote:


If you are not bothered about the cosmetics fitting flush, and you
are also confident with the insides of the Mac and the drives.


One more thing - what do you mean confident, Vicki? This machine has
always worked beautifully for me - except for the OEM DVD-ROM drive  
which

has never worked beautifully if at all.

I have read that they were sometimes troublesome but am now  
wondering if

the problem could that be something other than mechanical?

Tannis




Hi Tannis

You read into the mail to much! I meant that if you were confident  
with the take apart and re-assemble your -self.


Nothing more!!

 The Pismo i had i kept for the longest out of any G book i have  
owned, and only sold it on when i upgraded to a G4 Ti 1GHz.


vicki

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Re: Upgrading Pismo

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 2, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Tannis Baker wrote:



If you have 384 ram fitted then either the top or bottom already has
128 fitted meaning you would need another 256 chip. to get 512.


Oops you are right, Vicki!  That was a typo as I was looking at 256mg
prices - but looks like I might be smarter to go for 512 since I have
recently learned that pismos can now go to 1gb.  Thanks for the  
offer to
help - I am in Canada and have replaced memory before - although  
not in

the lower slot!

Tom and Vicki have both recommended buying a drive off of eBay and
fitting it myself but I must say I am leery of some of the work  
involved

after reading a link linked to a site sent to me by Tom.


If you can get a slotloader from a newer Powerbook being parted out,  
they fit right in; even without the bezel they work pretty well. This  
is just a matter of unscrewing the old drive, and attaching the new  
one. Slides right in.


Someday I'll dremel out the old bezel to fit it on the new drive.

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