[gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
Hello to you all, I am relatively new to the list so please point me to the good location if this question has already been asked (according to the list archives I found on http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user%40gentoo.org/, it hasn't) I am very interested about installing gentoo on my system : I am can't wait for a distro manager to update his rpms for a new software to be available on ly machine. I always end up downloading the sources and then breaking the package management system. Portage seems very interesting for me in that way. I also like the fact that it is similar to the process of LFS (which is for me to much of a hassle because of the lack of automation and dependancy checking). The fact is that I only have an rtc connection at home. While I cannot afford to install gentoo that way, I have access to a broadband connection available at my school. My questions are 1.Is it possible to do some kind of 'emerge bootstrap --pretend' for the _WHOLE_ gentoo installation ? I'd like to be able to download all the sources needed at school, burn them to a few CD's and then let my isolated machine compile during a few days. I would then upgrade my system the usual way with my rtc connection (I can bear up to around 10-20megs sources dl). 2. Could someone provide some figures about compilation time to compare with my machine? I have a 566Mhz Celeron but a bunch of RAM (312Mb) so I would be interested in the time taken to perform such compilation. How about the size of the sources as well (multimedia desktop Linux using GNOME). 3.Short (and last) one: are the ebuilds introducing any dependancy on the availability of new software (e.g. are the ebuilds of one version (eg GNOME2.2) usable for another one (GNOME2.4))? Thank you very much for your consideration, Regards, Vincent -- Vincent Rubiolo 4th Year Student At The School Of Engineering Ecole des Mines de Nantes (France) http://www.emn.fr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
Thanks for the replies everyone. All the suggestions have helped. JBanks --- Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:30:14PM -0700, Joshua Banks wrote: > > Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight > > > > I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or > > not I'm > doing > > this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about "etc-update" > > everyone seems to > be > > "hush-hush". > > I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. etc-update > already allows you to see the differences and manually sort them out > line by line or (my preference) in vimdiff mode. > > Only crazy people use the option for etc-update to automatically fix > the files, and they end up with a broken system. > > > > Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". > > > > > > How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. > > Why? > > Sure if you want to you can take all those files it says are changed > and look at both versions with diff or vimdiff or whatever.. but > etc-update calls these progams for you anyway. > > > > ** > > > > > > At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any > > > suggestions on using > > > "diff" > > > and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) > > > > > > ** > > etc-update *is* the better way. :) > > > > At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, > > > (2)its obvious > > > that > > > I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was > > > told so: > > > > > > Quote: > > > * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables > > > * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. > > > > > > * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update > > > * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage > > > * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health > > > * of your system. > > > End Quote: > > > > > > > > > So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc > > > directory, > too: > > > > > > 1) > > > bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals > > > > > > 2) > > > bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals > > Yes, if you have never edited a config file and now you have to > merge in new changes then usually what you want to do is just take > the update. And etc-update has an option for doing this. > > > > Now my other question is: > > > > > > Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically > > > speaking), WHAT, > if > > > anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes > > > manually instead > of > > > using "etc-update"? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it > > > fits.. :P > > Removing the ._cfg file is enough to make portage forget about it, I > think. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:38, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:12:50PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Does anyone have any more ideas? > > > > Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded > > since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on > > from there. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ grep '>>> emerge.*of 109' /var/log/emerge.log > 1063758884: >>> emerge (1 of 109) sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708 to / > 1063758912: >>> emerge (2 of 109) sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 to / > 1063758974: >>> emerge (3 of 109) sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.0-r5 to / > 1063759058: >>> emerge (4 of 109) sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 to / > 1063759530: >>> emerge (5 of 109) sys-apps/sed-4.0.7 to / > 1063759624: >>> emerge (6 of 109) sys-libs/ncurses-5.3-r4 to / > 1063760209: >>> emerge (7 of 109) sys-apps/texinfo-4.6 to / > 1063760354: >>> emerge (8 of 109) sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 to / > 1063760637: >>> emerge (9 of 109) sys-apps/cronbase-0.2.1-r2 to / > 1063760665: >>> emerge (10 of 109) sys-apps/man-1.5m to / > 1063760739: >>> emerge (11 of 109) dev-java/java-config-0.2.8-r2 to / > 1063760767: >>> emerge (12 of 109) dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 to / > 1063760913: >>> emerge (13 of 109) sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 to / > 1063761476: >>> emerge (14 of 109) sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r1 to / > 1063761518: >>> emerge (15 of 109) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to / > 1063761552: >>> emerge (16 of 109) sys-apps/bzip2-1.0.2-r2 to / > 1063761602: >>> emerge (17 of 109) sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r4 to / > 1063762060: >>> emerge (18 of 109) sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r3 to / > 1063762093: >>> emerge (19 of 109) app-shells/bash-2.05b-r7 to / > 1063762346: >>> emerge (20 of 109) sys-libs/readline-4.3-r4 to / > 1063762446: >>> emerge (21 of 109) dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 to / > 1063762520: >>> emerge (22 of 109) dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r1 to / > 1063763110: >>> emerge (23 of 109) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / > 1063763177: >>> emerge (24 of 109) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to / > 1063763655: >>> emerge (25 of 109) dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 to / > 1063765366: >>> emerge (26 of 109) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / > 1063766107: >>> emerge (27 of 109) sys-apps/gawk-3.1.3 to / > 1063766224: >>> emerge (28 of 109) sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.19-r1 to / > 1063766343: >>> emerge (29 of 109) sys-devel/m4-1.4 to / > 1063766381: >>> emerge (30 of 109) sys-devel/autoconf-2.57-r1 to / > 1063766410: >>> emerge (31 of 109) sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r5 to / > 1063766433: >>> emerge (32 of 109) sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 to / > 1063766442: >>> emerge (33 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 to / > 1063766452: >>> emerge (34 of 109) sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r7 to / > 1063766467: >>> emerge (35 of 109) sys-devel/bison-1.875 to / > 1063766565: >>> emerge (36 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r1 to / There was nothing interesting in packages 37 - 109? > Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that > newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. gcc-3.3.1-r2 has some bugs. Check on bugzilla. There's also been a bit of mention of gentoo-dev. > Shall I download the source for an earlier version of gcc and > compile and install it within my home directory, then try to use it > to compile python and see if it makes a difference? The only problem then is if your current (buggy) gcc will successfully compile the older version or not. > Alternatively it could be binutils? Really scared about leaving > myself with no working gcc/binutils though. binutils is okay. I'm runing the latest ~x86 version and have had no problems. Have almost finished recompiling world with it - recompiling for another reason though. > I just meant to show that I'm willing to try anything no matter how > wacky in the hope of being able to recover from here without a total > reinstall. That I can respect. Do you have a GRP cd? Worst comes to worst you could always just untar the .tbz2 packages you need, fix up your /var/db/pkg and /var/cache/edb/virtuals and then upgrade to what is safe (not gcc331-r2 at this stage ;-) Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] where to find "jar" program?
hi! i tried to update the system, but doing a "emerge -u system" stops at the package "sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2" with an error... it says it needs a "jar" program, but does not find it in $PATH... so where do i find this program? how do i find out which package i should merge to get this? "qpkg -f" works only for installed packages. is there a tool that can search also in NOT installed packages? why isn`t "jar" automatically merged as it seems that "db" depends on it? is this a bug? can someone help me? here is the output of the error: -- checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking SOSUFFIX from libtool... so checking for javac... no checking for gcj... gcj -C checking if gcj -C works... yes checking for jar... no configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH !!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 73, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) -- thanks, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
Le 09/17/03 Jayson Garrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment: > On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote: >> * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> > Hello all, >> >> Hello Jean, >> >> > I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know >> > what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? >> >> As the first person that replied to this message stated it really >> depends on what you want to do; >> >> A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT >> connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever >> going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill. >> >> Phil > > Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable. > > Jayson Garrell OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not make it work This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO but any other advice will be welcome Thx all, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier 3 Cours Victor Hugo, 13980 Alleins France Tel: 04 90 59 33 94Port: 06 09 17 35 87 mèl: jm.bornier*at*free.fr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:30:14PM -0700, Joshua Banks wrote: > Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight > > I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or > not I'm doing > this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about "etc-update" everyone > seems to be > "hush-hush". I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. etc-update already allows you to see the differences and manually sort them out line by line or (my preference) in vimdiff mode. Only crazy people use the option for etc-update to automatically fix the files, and they end up with a broken system. > > Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". > > > > How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. Why? Sure if you want to you can take all those files it says are changed and look at both versions with diff or vimdiff or whatever.. but etc-update calls these progams for you anyway. > > ** > > > > At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions > > on using > > "diff" > > and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) > > > > ** etc-update *is* the better way. :) > > At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, > > (2)its obvious > > that > > I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was > > told so: > > > > Quote: > > * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables > > * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. > > > > * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update > > * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage > > * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health > > * of your system. > > End Quote: > > > > > > So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc > > directory, too: > > > > 1) > > bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals > > > > 2) > > bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Yes, if you have never edited a config file and now you have to merge in new changes then usually what you want to do is just take the update. And etc-update has an option for doing this. > > Now my other question is: > > > > Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically > > speaking), WHAT, if > > anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually > > instead of > > using "etc-update"? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it > > fits.. :P Removing the ._cfg file is enough to make portage forget about it, I think. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 13:49, Joshua Banks wrote: > Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. > > ** > > "My Goal" in this posting: > Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of > "ect-update". Well, the "correct" way is to use etc-update. There's also a utility called dispatch-conf which is meant to be better than etc-update but not sure how it works - check the forums on that. > bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' > /etc/._cfg_inputrc > /etc/._cfg_rc.conf > /etc/._cfg_make.conf > /etc/._cfg_make.globals > /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS > /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net > /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs > /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname > /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps > /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 > /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules > /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock > /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm > /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc > /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh > /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot > /etc/._cfg_services > /etc/._cfg_fstab > /etc/._cfg_group > /etc/._cfg_hosts > /etc/._cfg_issue > /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf > /etc/._cfg_shells This is essentially what etc-update first does. It checks other directories as well, by default defined in make.globals under CONFIG_PROTECT. > Now, this is where my questions come in. > > Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of > "ect-update". > > At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any > suggestions on using "diff" and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be > helpful & appreciated as well.) Personally, I like to see all the diffs before deciding what I want to keep from either file. I usually then just use nano on the new file to merge my changes to the old file. > At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file > So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the > /etc directory, too: > bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals > bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals That's okay, but this is better: bash-2.05b# mv ._cfg_make.globals make.globals I usually do this for (after editing) each file I'm interested in and then use etc-update's -5 to move the rest. I have been bitten slightly a couple of times when a gui program has changed a config file that I wasn't aware of. To be safe, don't automatically overwrite a file unless you know what it is. > Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically > speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know > I've made the changes manually instead of using "etc-update"? Again, > correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P As I said before, portage just scans for ._cfg???_* files, so they wont show up as needing updating after deleting them. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] post-it notes application?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 07:32:49AM +0200, Alberto Bert wrote: > I would like to have a yellow post-it notes manager like knotes or goat, but I > don't use gnome or KDE (WM fan.) > Could you suggest me any program like those for wm or x, which don't > need to start heavy processes? Try xpad. I think it's gtk2-based. Looks/works nice in WM for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:12:50PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: > > Does anyone have any more ideas? > > Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since > the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from > there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ grep '>>> emerge.*of 109' /var/log/emerge.log 1063758884: >>> emerge (1 of 109) sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708 to / 1063758912: >>> emerge (2 of 109) sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 to / 1063758974: >>> emerge (3 of 109) sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.0-r5 to / 1063759058: >>> emerge (4 of 109) sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 to / 1063759530: >>> emerge (5 of 109) sys-apps/sed-4.0.7 to / 1063759624: >>> emerge (6 of 109) sys-libs/ncurses-5.3-r4 to / 1063760209: >>> emerge (7 of 109) sys-apps/texinfo-4.6 to / 1063760354: >>> emerge (8 of 109) sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 to / 1063760637: >>> emerge (9 of 109) sys-apps/cronbase-0.2.1-r2 to / 1063760665: >>> emerge (10 of 109) sys-apps/man-1.5m to / 1063760739: >>> emerge (11 of 109) dev-java/java-config-0.2.8-r2 to / 1063760767: >>> emerge (12 of 109) dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 to / 1063760913: >>> emerge (13 of 109) sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 to / 1063761476: >>> emerge (14 of 109) sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r1 to / 1063761518: >>> emerge (15 of 109) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to / 1063761552: >>> emerge (16 of 109) sys-apps/bzip2-1.0.2-r2 to / 1063761602: >>> emerge (17 of 109) sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r4 to / 1063762060: >>> emerge (18 of 109) sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r3 to / 1063762093: >>> emerge (19 of 109) app-shells/bash-2.05b-r7 to / 1063762346: >>> emerge (20 of 109) sys-libs/readline-4.3-r4 to / 1063762446: >>> emerge (21 of 109) dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 to / 1063762520: >>> emerge (22 of 109) dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r1 to / 1063763110: >>> emerge (23 of 109) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / 1063763177: >>> emerge (24 of 109) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to / 1063763655: >>> emerge (25 of 109) dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 to / 1063765366: >>> emerge (26 of 109) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / 1063766107: >>> emerge (27 of 109) sys-apps/gawk-3.1.3 to / 1063766224: >>> emerge (28 of 109) sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.19-r1 to / 1063766343: >>> emerge (29 of 109) sys-devel/m4-1.4 to / 1063766381: >>> emerge (30 of 109) sys-devel/autoconf-2.57-r1 to / 1063766410: >>> emerge (31 of 109) sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r5 to / 1063766433: >>> emerge (32 of 109) sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 to / 1063766442: >>> emerge (33 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 to / 1063766452: >>> emerge (34 of 109) sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r7 to / 1063766467: >>> emerge (35 of 109) sys-devel/bison-1.875 to / 1063766565: >>> emerge (36 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r1 to / Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. Shall I download the source for an earlier version of gcc and compile and install it within my home directory, then try to use it to compile python and see if it makes a difference? Alternatively it could be binutils? Really scared about leaving myself with no working gcc/binutils though. > > If I end up having to reinstall > > the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 > > days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare > > that sort of time right now. > > I have to have a whinge about this. Many people ask for help and then end it > with saying, "if you can't help, i'm gonna leave!" Well, I didn't quite say that. I was just expressing my reasons for not wanting to completely reinstall, which I could see many people thinking would be the easiest option. > To be perfectly honest, > every time I see something like this, I get the inclination to not help the > person at all. It is totally unrelated to the problem and therefore > unnecessary. I could say a lot more but I'd just be repeating myself... This isn't really unrelated to my problem. If I had 4 days spare then I would probably reinstall. Also related is the fact that this is my desktop machine which I need to do my work on, and recently one of its (two) P3 700 CPUs died, so if I did start again I'd be recompiling everything with half the CPU power. I see what you're saying though. I agree that when you see people say things like "if no one can help me then I'm going back to windows" or something then you just think, "go back to windows then!" I just meant to show that I'm willing to try anything no matter how wacky in the hope of being able to recover from here without a total reinstall. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: > Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight > > I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or > not I'm doing > this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about "etc-update" everyone > seems to be > "hush-hush". > > I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing > confirmation. I've read > to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. > > JBanks > --- Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. > > > > ** > > > > "My Goal" in this posting: > > Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of > > "ect-update". > > > > How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. > > > > Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the > > differences are of > > which I know how to do,(using "diff" at its most basic level that-is) and is good > > practice for > > me > > to get used to using "diff" as well as looking at the contents of these files to > > be more > > familiar > > with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually > > update the needed > > files, VERSUS using "etc-update", that this will make my Gentoo experience that > > much more > > fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. > > > > Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P > > > > So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: > > > > > > *** > > > > I ran, > > bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system > > > > After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: > > > > * Regenerating GNU info directory index... > > * Processed 56 info files. > > * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. > > * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. > > > > After looking at the info in "emerge --help config" I run, > > > > bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' > > /etc/._cfg_inputrc > > /etc/._cfg_rc.conf > > /etc/._cfg_make.conf > > /etc/._cfg_make.globals > > /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS > > /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial > > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot > > /etc/._cfg_services > > /etc/._cfg_fstab > > /etc/._cfg_group > > /etc/._cfg_hosts > > /etc/._cfg_issue > > /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf > > /etc/._cfg_shells > > > > ** > > > > > > > > Now, this is where my questions come in. > > > > Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". > > > > How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. > > > > ** > > > > At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions > > on using > > "diff" > > and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) > > > > ** > > > > For example: > > bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals > > 3c3 > > < # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 > > 04:46:52 > > carpaski > > Exp $ > > --- > > > # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 > > > 01:01:26 > > carpaski > > Exp $ > > 44c44 > > < FEATURES="sandbox ccache" > > --- > > > FEATURES="sandbox ccache autoaddcvs" > > 51c51 > > < USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES" > > --- > > > USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS" > > > > > > > > At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, > > (2)its obvious > > that > > I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was > > told so: > > > > Quote: > > * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables > > * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. > > > > * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update > > * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage > > * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health > > * of your system. > > End Quote: > > > > > > So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc > > directory, too: > > > > 1) > > bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg000
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
Only thing i can say is instead of cp new.cfg old.cfg rm old.cfg u could just mv old.cfg new.cfg Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about "etc-update" everyone seems to be "hush-hush". I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing confirmation. I've read to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. JBanks --- Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** "My Goal" in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using "diff" at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using "diff" as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using "etc-update", that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in "emerge --help config" I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using "diff" and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 < # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 < FEATURES="sandbox ccache" --- FEATURES="sandbox ccache autoaddcvs" 51c51 < USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES" --- USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS" At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using "etc-update"? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PRO
Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about "etc-update" everyone seems to be "hush-hush". I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing confirmation. I've read to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. JBanks --- Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. > > ** > > "My Goal" in this posting: > Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of > "ect-update". > > How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. > > Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the > differences are of > which I know how to do,(using "diff" at its most basic level that-is) and is good > practice for > me > to get used to using "diff" as well as looking at the contents of these files to be > more > familiar > with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update > the needed > files, VERSUS using "etc-update", that this will make my Gentoo experience that much > more > fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. > > Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P > > So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: > > > *** > > I ran, > bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system > > After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: > > * Regenerating GNU info directory index... > * Processed 56 info files. > * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. > * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. > > After looking at the info in "emerge --help config" I run, > > bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' > /etc/._cfg_inputrc > /etc/._cfg_rc.conf > /etc/._cfg_make.conf > /etc/._cfg_make.globals > /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS > /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net > /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs > /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname > /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps > /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 > /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules > /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock > /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm > /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc > /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh > /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial > /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot > /etc/._cfg_services > /etc/._cfg_fstab > /etc/._cfg_group > /etc/._cfg_hosts > /etc/._cfg_issue > /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf > /etc/._cfg_shells > > ** > > > > Now, this is where my questions come in. > > Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". > > How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. > > ** > > At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions > on using > "diff" > and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) > > ** > > For example: > bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals > 3c3 > < # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 > 04:46:52 > carpaski > Exp $ > --- > > # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 > > 01:01:26 > carpaski > Exp $ > 44c44 > < FEATURES="sandbox ccache" > --- > > FEATURES="sandbox ccache autoaddcvs" > 51c51 > < USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES" > --- > > USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS" > > > > At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its > obvious > that > I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told > so: > > Quote: > * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables > * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. > > * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update > * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage > * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health > * of your system. > End Quote: > > > So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc > directory, too: > > 1) > bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals > > 2) > bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals > > > Now my other question is: > > Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically > speaking), WHAT, if > anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually > instead of > using "etc-update"? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it > fits.. :P > > T
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:41:14AM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: > > gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. > > -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include > > -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c > > /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o > > build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared > > build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o > > build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so > > WARNING: removing "select" since importing it failed > > In fact *every single python module* has this error, which seems to > install a python with no modules. So, I can hypothesis that the > following happened: > > - The emerge -e recompiled some essential part of my system > involving the development of dynamically loaded modules, and it > did it wrongly (I am using ~x86 btw, so maybe I am asking for > this?) > > - It then went on to recompile python with all its modules failing > to import. > > - This python was installed, leaving me with no working portage. > > I now have to work out exactly what was installed that broke this. > The thing is though, that as far as I can tell, gcc and binutils > do seem to work. I really don't want to go messing with those > especially without portage to configure them properly for gentoo. > > Does anyone have any more ideas? Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from there. > If I end up having to reinstall > the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 > days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare > that sort of time right now. I have to have a whinge about this. Many people ask for help and then end it with saying, "if you can't help, i'm gonna leave!" To be perfectly honest, every time I see something like this, I get the inclination to not help the person at all. It is totally unrelated to the problem and therefore unnecessary. I could say a lot more but I'd just be repeating myself... Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:41:14AM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: > gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. > -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u > sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 > -c /home/andy/t > mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o > gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o > build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se > lect.so > WARNING: removing "select" since importing it failed In fact *every single python module* has this error, which seems to install a python with no modules. So, I can hypothesis that the following happened: - The emerge -e recompiled some essential part of my system involving the development of dynamically loaded modules, and it did it wrongly (I am using ~x86 btw, so maybe I am asking for this?) - It then went on to recompile python with all its modules failing to import. - This python was installed, leaving me with no working portage. I now have to work out exactly what was installed that broke this. The thing is though, that as far as I can tell, gcc and binutils do seem to work. I really don't want to go messing with those especially without portage to configure them properly for gentoo. Does anyone have any more ideas? If I end up having to reinstall the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare that sort of time right now. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
Sorry I can't help here, had a look on google and couldn't find anything useful. Maybe someone with a bit more experience could help more. Regards. Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:54:07PM +1000, blade- wrote: Hi, I found this on the forum for you since you cant get there. Its how to manually re-install python. # cd # tar xzf /usr/portage/distfiles/Python-2.2.1.tgz # cd Python-2.2.1 # ./configure --with-fpectl --infodir=/usr/share/info/ --mandir=/usr/share/man # make # make install prefix=/usr # rm /usr/bin/python 2>/dev/null # ln -s /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python This guy had a simular problem and he said this fixed it. Thanks. Now we are getting somewhere. It was the "select" module that portage was complaining about, and when I compile python from source and install it I see this: gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so WARNING: removing "select" since importing it failed Needless to say, python still does not have a select module after this python is installed. Now I need to figure out why it can't compile this and I may be part of the way towards fixing this. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:54:07PM +1000, blade- wrote: > Hi, > > I found this on the forum for you since you cant get there. Its how to > manually re-install python. > > # cd > # tar xzf /usr/portage/distfiles/Python-2.2.1.tgz > # cd Python-2.2.1 > > # ./configure --with-fpectl --infodir=/usr/share/info/ > --mandir=/usr/share/man > # make > # make install prefix=/usr > # rm /usr/bin/python 2>/dev/null > # ln -s /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python > > This guy had a simular problem and he said this fixed it. Thanks. Now we are getting somewhere. It was the "select" module that portage was complaining about, and when I compile python from source and install it I see this: gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so WARNING: removing "select" since importing it failed Needless to say, python still does not have a select module after this python is installed. Now I need to figure out why it can't compile this and I may be part of the way towards fixing this. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > I just upgraded to OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 from 3.6.1_p2-r3 and now I can no > longer login using ssh. > > Both remote loging from another machine (permission denied after the > password is entered) as well as "ssh localhost" (no output at all) do > not work. What error are you getting in /var/log/auth.log from sshd? -- Marshal Newrock, unemployed Linux user in Lansing, MI Caution: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] post-it notes application?
Hi, I would like to have a yellow post-it notes manager like knotes or goat, but I don't use gnome or KDE (WM fan.) Could you suggest me any program like those for wm or x, which don't need to start heavy processes? Thanx alb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 13:53, Owen Gunden wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 01:36:11PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Do an emerge -ep world and look for any of those packages shortly after > > gpm is listed. If you don't find anything, then I haven't got a clue. If > > you do, then it's just figuring out why the package is pulling it in. > > Thanks for the tip. > > I think I've found the culprit. Inside > /usr/portage/net-www/links/links-2.1_pre9.ebuild, inside DEPEND: > > fbcon? ( >=media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 sys-libs/gpm ) > > So, odd though it may seem, if you have fbcon turned on (which I do), > you're required to have gpm for links. Does this make sense? If not, I'll > be filing a bug. Well, I haven't used links before but... Can links be used with framebuffer and navigated successfully with keyboard? If so then gpm shouldn't be a requirement. If not then gpm should be there. Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1
Did you overwrite the config files with etc-update, if so u will have to re-config it, I just updated mine and its working fine. Sebastian Bergmann wrote: I just upgraded to OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 from 3.6.1_p2-r3 and now I can no longer login using ssh. Both remote loging from another machine (permission denied after the password is entered) as well as "ssh localhost" (no output at all) do not work. Any idea? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1
I just upgraded to OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 from 3.6.1_p2-r3 and now I can no longer login using ssh. Both remote loging from another machine (permission denied after the password is entered) as well as "ssh localhost" (no output at all) do not work. Any idea? -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
Hi, I found this on the forum for you since you cant get there. Its how to manually re-install python. # cd # tar xzf /usr/portage/distfiles/Python-2.2.1.tgz # cd Python-2.2.1 # ./configure --with-fpectl --infodir=/usr/share/info/ --mandir=/usr/share/man # make # make install prefix=/usr # rm /usr/bin/python 2>/dev/null # ln -s /usr/bin/python2 /usr/bin/python This guy had a simular problem and he said this fixed it. fede files # emerge rsync Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6, in ? import os,sys,portage,emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil,traceback File "/usr/lib/python2.2/threading.py", line 5, in ? import thread *ImportError*: No module named thread Andy Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:22:11PM -0500, David H. Askew wrote: I've never done this, but take a look at : /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files/README.RESCUE Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this and afterwards I still get: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6, in ? import os,sys,portage,emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil,traceback File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 10, in ? from select import * ImportError: No module named select on any invocation of emerge. This is the same as before. :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 01:36:11PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > Do an emerge -ep world and look for any of those packages shortly after > gpm is listed. If you don't find anything, then I haven't got a clue. If > you do, then it's just figuring out why the package is pulling it in. Thanks for the tip. I think I've found the culprit. Inside /usr/portage/net-www/links/links-2.1_pre9.ebuild, inside DEPEND: fbcon? ( >=media-libs/libpng-1.2.1 sys-libs/gpm ) So, odd though it may seem, if you have fbcon turned on (which I do), you're required to have gpm for links. Does this make sense? If not, I'll be filing a bug. Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** "My Goal" in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using "diff" at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using "diff" as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using "etc-update", that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in "emerge --help config" I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, "My Goal", to manually update the files without the use of "ect-update". How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually "diff"ing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using "diff" and "cp" in a better way than I'm using will be helpful & appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 < # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- > # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 > 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 < FEATURES="sandbox ccache" --- > FEATURES="sandbox ccache autoaddcvs" 51c51 < USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES" --- > USE_EXPAND="VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS" At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using "etc-update"? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
Sorry!! On Wednesday 17 September 2003 12:49, Owen Gunden wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:27:08AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > gpm is in the default use flags so to not use gpm you need to have "-gpm" > > in your use flags. > > The strange thing is, I /do/ have -gpm in my use flags: > > % emerge info | grep USE > USE="x86 avi crypt cups encode foomaticdb gif jpeg libg++ mad mikmod mmx > mpeg ncurses pdflib png quicktime spell truetype xml2 xmms xv zlib directfb > gtkhtml alsa gdbm berkdb slang readline tetex aalib bonobo svga tcltk java > guile ruby X sdl tcpd pam libwww ssl perl python esd imlib oggvorbis gnome > gtk motif opengl mozilla cdr apache2 fbcon gtk2 imap maildir mozcalendar > moznocompose moznoirc mozsvg mozxmlterm plotutils ppds samba scanner usb > -oss -apm -arts -gpm -kde -nls -qt" > > Also: > % grep gpm /var/cache/edb/world > returns nothing. > > Any more ideas? Here's a list of packages that have anything related to gpm: app-editors/fte app-editors/jed app-editors/kvim app-editors/xemacs-gtk app-editors/xemacs app-editors/xwpe app-misc/mc app-misc/twin dev-util/rhide media-libs/aalib media-sound/aumix net-p2p/giftcurs net-www/elinks net-www/links net-www/w3m-m17n net-www/w3m net-www/w3mmee sys-libs/gpm x11-misc/imwheel Do an emerge -ep world and look for any of those packages shortly after gpm is listed. If you don't find anything, then I haven't got a clue. If you do, then it's just figuring out why the package is pulling it in. Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kylix 3 problem in gentoo
Jan, This probably doesn;t help...but for a long time after I installed kylix 3 open edition ...whenever I started it my computer would totally freeze ...and I could not figure out why this was soeventually after 2 weeks or so it stopped and i could run kylix fineI was unable to find out how it was resolvedbut try changing the user who you performed the install underi.e instead of root try a normal user cos when kylix closes it may try to update some files and realize that it doesn;t have necessary permissions...justa suggestion. Good luck, Simon On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Jan Meier wrote: > Hi, > I got a problem with kylix 3, if I exit kylix the computer freezes! I don't > know why is that? > Can anybody help? > thanx > Jan > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:22:11PM -0500, David H. Askew wrote: > > I've never done this, but take a look at : > > /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files/README.RESCUE Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this and afterwards I still get: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 6, in ? import os,sys,portage,emergehelp,xpak,string,re,commands,time,threading,shutil,traceback File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 10, in ? from select import * ImportError: No module named select on any invocation of emerge. This is the same as before. :( pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 12:49, Owen Gunden wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:27:08AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > gpm is in the default use flags so to not use gpm you need to have "-gpm" > > in your use flags. > > The strange thing is, I /do/ have -gpm in my use flags: > > % emerge info | grep USE > USE="x86 avi crypt cups encode foomaticdb gif jpeg libg++ mad mikmod mmx > mpeg ncurses pdflib png quicktime spell truetype xml2 xmms xv zlib directfb > gtkhtml alsa gdbm berkdb slang readline tetex aalib bonobo svga tcltk java > guile ruby X sdl tcpd pam libwww ssl perl python esd imlib oggvorbis gnome > gtk motif opengl mozilla cdr apache2 fbcon gtk2 imap maildir mozcalendar > moznocompose moznoirc mozsvg mozxmlterm plotutils ppds samba scanner usb > -oss -apm -arts -gpm -kde -nls -qt" > > Also: > % grep gpm /var/cache/edb/world > returns nothing. > > Any more ideas? Here's a list of all packages that have anything related to gpm (IUSE or DEPEND): -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
I've never done this, but take a look at : /usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/files/README.RESCUE ..just trying to be helpful On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 23:20, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > My galeon web browser mysteriously stopped working today. In an > attempt to get it to work again, I did the following: > > emerge -euv galeon > > The idea was to recompile galeon and absolutely everything it > depends upon. > > I had to stop the compilation at one point with a control-c, > although this was at a point that should have been safe to do this. > When I then tried to run emerge again, I got this: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 14, in ? > import portage > File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 10, in ? > from select import * > ImportError: No module named select > > This happens whatever arguments I give to emerge, and obviously > means that the python select module is for some reason not > installed. Python was not the ebuild that I interrupted, so I am > confused why this should be the case. > > So, I am now completely unable to run emerge to do anything else. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get a working portage > setup now? > > I am sorry if this is explained in the forum, I am having difficulty > viewing web pages at the moment due to having no working web > browser (I have wget though!). > > Regards, > Andy. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb ? Answer : None, they just declare darkness a new standard. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
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[gentoo-user] portage broken
Hello, My galeon web browser mysteriously stopped working today. In an attempt to get it to work again, I did the following: emerge -euv galeon The idea was to recompile galeon and absolutely everything it depends upon. I had to stop the compilation at one point with a control-c, although this was at a point that should have been safe to do this. When I then tried to run emerge again, I got this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 14, in ? import portage File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py", line 10, in ? from select import * ImportError: No module named select This happens whatever arguments I give to emerge, and obviously means that the python select module is for some reason not installed. Python was not the ebuild that I interrupted, so I am confused why this should be the case. So, I am now completely unable to run emerge to do anything else. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get a working portage setup now? I am sorry if this is explained in the forum, I am having difficulty viewing web pages at the moment due to having no working web browser (I have wget though!). Regards, Andy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge --verbose what?
So when the following happens after an emerge: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 61 info files: 1 errors; run with emerge --verbose to view errors. What am I supposed to tell emerge to do verbosely? Re-emerge the same package? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:27:08AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > gpm is in the default use flags so to not use gpm you need to have "-gpm" in > your use flags. The strange thing is, I /do/ have -gpm in my use flags: % emerge info | grep USE USE="x86 avi crypt cups encode foomaticdb gif jpeg libg++ mad mikmod mmx mpeg ncurses pdflib png quicktime spell truetype xml2 xmms xv zlib directfb gtkhtml alsa gdbm berkdb slang readline tetex aalib bonobo svga tcltk java guile ruby X sdl tcpd pam libwww ssl perl python esd imlib oggvorbis gnome gtk motif opengl mozilla cdr apache2 fbcon gtk2 imap maildir mozcalendar moznocompose moznoirc mozsvg mozxmlterm plotutils ppds samba scanner usb -oss -apm -arts -gpm -kde -nls -qt" (in reality it's actually all one line, I just wrapped it for mail etiquette purposes.) > As for what is trying to pull it in, try "emerge -evp world | grep '+gpm'". > When I do it, I find xemacs and giftcurs. I'm yet to figure what is pulling > in xemacs, but I like it in giftcurs because I can then use the mouse in a > kterm. Even stranger, that command returns no results on my machine. Also: % grep gpm /var/cache/edb/world returns nothing. Any more ideas? Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 11:33 pm, gabriel wrote: > On September 16, 2003 10:57 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > > I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot > > seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have > > to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this > > browser? I really do not like Konqueror. > > you need to run "kappfinder". it'll go through your box and find > programs that can be run from kde and allow you to select which > ones you want included. Way too simple Gabriel ;-) I forgot about that. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 11:05 pm, Ben Sparks wrote: > It should be in /usr/bin/mozilla-firebird or something like that. > portage does not automatically add merged programs to the > menu...yet ;) > > On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 22:57, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > > I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot > > seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have > > to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this > > browser? I really do not like Konqueror. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Kevin PLEASE do not start a new thread by replying to an old one and changing the subject. Start a new thread by opening a blank mail and typing in the address, or by clicking on the address in the headers of any list post. The way you've been posting arranges replies to your questions under an unrelated thread. To answer your question, to start Firebird, open a konsole and type MozillaFirebird. You can create an icon on your desktop for it by right clicking on the screen background. Go up to the top of the menu to "create new" and select "link to application" set a name for the link by typing in the box on the "general" tab. Don't worry about permissions for this. Go to the "Execute" tab and type MozillaFirebird in the box. Click the OK button and you should be good to go. You can select a different icon by clicking on the icon on the "general" tab. You can add programs to the KDE menu by going to the "start applications icon (bottom left corner) choose "settings" and then "Menu Editor". for an internet application, click the plus sign (+) to the left of "Internet". Highlight the word internet, then click the "New Item" icon (top left). Enter a name to appear on the menu, click OK where it says Command, in this case you can just type MozillaFirebird, but in some cases you would need to type the full path to the executable, in this case /usr/bin/MozillaFirebird You can also set a keyboard shortcut here too but before you do that I would learn what shortcuts are included by default first. You don't want to mess up here. I once by mistake set open office to open on a shortcut of "s" Yup, you got it. Every stinkin time I typed the letter "s" anywhere, Open Office opened. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
On September 16, 2003 10:57 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to > find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla > first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not > like Konqueror. you need to run "kappfinder". it'll go through your box and find programs that can be run from kde and allow you to select which ones you want included. -- i pray that my son does not die today. but if he should die, i pray that he dies well. but most of all, i pray that if he lives, it will not be dishonour that preserves him. - dornean war-prayer, michael p. kube-mcdowell's "shield of lies" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
Create a new e-mail instead of replying and changing the subject On Wednesday 17 September 2003 11:57, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to > find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla > first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not > like Konqueror. At this stage, most applications are not added to menus automatically. For KDE, you'll need to use Settings->Menu Editor to add a menu item for it. I don't know what the name of the executable is - somebody else can help there. If you want to find it yourself, do: grep /bin/ /var/db/pkg/net-www/firebird-vernum/firebird-vernum.ebuild Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
It should be in /usr/bin/mozilla-firebird or something like that. portage does not automatically add merged programs to the menu...yet ;) On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 22:57, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: > I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to find > it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla first? > Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not like > Konqueror. > > Kevin > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not like Konqueror. Kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge php fails
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Andrew Farmer wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 10:31:12AM +0200, Rudmer van Dijk muttered: > > Hi, > > > > anyone seen this? > > > > I was trying to emerge php-4.3.3-r1 but it failed on configure: > > > > checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... no > > configure: error: libjpeg not found! > > > > !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.3-r1 failed. > > !!! Function econf, Line 324, Exitcode 1 > > !!! econf failed > > Unfortunately, it's a PHP bug, not a Gentoo problem. Bug the PHP folks > about this one... No, it is not PHP bugs. Please read bugs.gentoo.org. It's been filed and RESOLV. Just change the name of blackdown's libjpeg.so name (somewhere at /opt/blackdown.) to libjpeg.so.whatever and then reemerge (mod_)php. Don't forget to rename libjpeg.so.whatever to libjpeg.so after emerge :) -- bpdp -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system
On Monday 15 September 2003 23:17, Collins Richey wrote: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:58:47 -0700 (PDT) > > Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why do you say that Collins? > > > > Joshua Banks > > > > --- Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:28:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What do you mean "times out"like your not gettting a reply from > > > > the needed site assuming that you have internet connectivity issues > > > > resolved? Can you get to other sites on the internet? > > > > > > > > Works for me > > > > deadmeat jbanks # emerge -up system > > > > > > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > > > > > > > Calculating system dependencies ...done! > > > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.8.6.10-r1 [1.8.6.8-r1] > > > > > > Works ok for me, too, but, alas, here's another freaking baselayout > > > upgrade - the biggest pain-in-the-tush on gentoo! > > Because it provides updates for files like fstab and passwd that are > critical to the operation of your system, and frequently the replacements > are worthless copies of the original default files. All it takes is one > miskey, and you're screwed. I'll not waste a lot of bandwidth here, > since this deficiency has been much discussed in the past. By all means waste more bandwidth discussing the deficiency. The best thing we can do is post on the Gentoo dev list about the deficiencies or create a bug. The more people complain, the more the devs will see that the current way of doing things is not the best for the user base. I tried to convince the devs on gentoo-dev that allowing etc-update to present updates to /etc/make.conf is a bad idea because the file should only be used to customize the system from the defaults and not carry its own documentation. Others also thought updates to make.conf -- in the current implementation -- was not the most optimal but alas nothing came out of it. If you haven't read Daniel Robbins's email titled "[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: [gentoo-core] What Gentoo is all about]" on gentoo-dev here is a piece of it: "To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo philosophy is to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, without getting in the way." Well etc-update --- while a great utility --- is not letting me do what I want to do without getting in the way. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge php fails
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 10:31:12AM +0200, Rudmer van Dijk muttered: > Hi, > > anyone seen this? > > I was trying to emerge php-4.3.3-r1 but it failed on configure: > > checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... no > configure: error: libjpeg not found! > > !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-4.3.3-r1 failed. > !!! Function econf, Line 324, Exitcode 1 > !!! econf failed Unfortunately, it's a PHP bug, not a Gentoo problem. Bug the PHP folks about this one... -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] [markus@openbsd.org: [openssh-unix-announce] OpenSSH 3.7.1 released]
FYI. More buffer problems discovered... Cooper. --- Begin Message --- OpenSSH 3.7.1 has just been released. It will be available from the mirrors listed at http://www.openssh.com/ shortly. OpenSSH is a 100% complete SSH protocol version 1.3, 1.5 and 2.0 implementation and includes sftp client and server support. We would like to thank the OpenSSH community for their continued support to the project, especially those who contributed source and bought T-shirts or posters. We have a new design of T-shirt available, more info on http://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#18 For international orders use https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order and for European orders, use https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu Security Changes: = All versions of OpenSSH's sshd prior to 3.7.1 contain buffer management errors. It is uncertain whether these errors are potentially exploitable, however, we prefer to see bugs fixed proactively. OpenSSH 3.7 fixed one of these bugs. OpenSSH 3.7.1 fixes more similar bugs. Changes since OpenSSH 3.6.1: * The entire OpenSSH code-base has undergone a license review. As a result, all non-ssh1.x code is under a BSD-style license with no advertising requirement. Please refer to README in the source distribution for the exact license terms. * Rhosts authentication has been removed in ssh(1) and sshd(8). * Changes in Kerberos support: - KerberosV password support now uses a file cache instead of a memory cache. - KerberosIV and AFS support has been removed. - KerberosV support has been removed from SSH protocol 1. - KerberosV password authentication support remains for SSH protocols 1 and 2. - This release contains some GSSAPI user authentication support to replace legacy KerberosV authentication support. At present this code is still considered experimental and SHOULD NOT BE USED. * Changed order that keys are tried in public key authentication. The ssh(1) client tries the keys in the following order: 1. ssh-agent(1) keys that are found in the ssh_config(5) file 2. remaining ssh-agent(1) keys 3. keys that are only listed in the ssh_config(5) file This helps when an ssh-agent(1) has many keys, where the sshd(8) server might close the connection before the correct key is tried. * SOCKS5 support has been added to the dynamic forwarding mode in ssh(1). * Removed implementation barriers to operation of SSH over SCTP. * sftp(1) client can now transfer files with quote characters in their filenames. * Replaced sshd(8)'s VerifyReverseMapping with UseDNS option. When UseDNS option is on, reverse hostname lookups are always performed. * Fix a number of memory leaks. * Support for sending tty BREAK over SSH protocol 2. * Workaround for other vendor bugs in KEX guess handling. * Support for generating KEX-GEX groups (/etc/moduli) in ssh-keygen(1). * Automatic re-keying based on amount of data sent over connection. * New AddressFamily option on client to select protocol to use (IPv4 or IPv6). * Experimental support for the "aes128-ctr", "aes192-ctr", and "aes256-ctr" ciphers for SSH protocol 2. * Experimental support for host keys in DNS (draft-ietf-secsh-dns-xx.txt). Please see README.dns in the source distribution for details. * Portable OpenSSH: - Replace PAM password authentication kludge with a more correct PAM challenge-response module from FreeBSD. - PAM support may now be enabled/disabled at runtime using the UsePAM directive. - Many improvements to the OpenSC smartcard support. - Regression tests now work with portable OpenSSH. Please refer to regress/README.regress in the source distribution. - On platforms that support it, portable OpenSSH now honors the UMASK, PATH and SUPATH attributes set in /etc/default/login. - Deny access to locked accounts, regardless of authentication method in use. Checksums: == - MD5 (openssh-3.7.1.tgz) = 3d2f1644d6a3d3267e5e2421f1385129 - MD5 (openssh-3.7.1p1.tar.gz) = f54e574e606c08ef63ebb1ab2f7689dc Reporting Bugs: === - please read http://www.openssh.com/report.html and http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/ OpenSSH is brought to you by Markus Friedl, Niels Provos, Theo de Raadt, Kevin Steves, Damien Miller, Ben Lindstrom, Darren Tucker and Tim Rice. ___ openssh-unix-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindrot.org/mailman/listinfo/openssh-unix-announce --- End Message --- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading
Top-posting cuz your post came as an attachment??? Ya you have to emerge hotplug then rc-update add it to the default run level before building the kernel [well it doesn't matter but might as well follow the instructions]. You have to add hotplug support to your kernel configuration. If all goes well the hotplug script will automatically load all of your devices for you at boot time. It worked for me when I last built in July. Everything such as my ethernet, sound, tv tuner, scanner, mouse, etc... was detected. Recently though I have found that the USB support is broken on my box. I'm not "nix-pro" enough to figure out why it doesn't work. For the most part hotplug is well worth it. Saves much time. Tom --- I just recently looked over the new 1.4 install instructions, very nice job by the way. I noticed that hotplug is used by default in the install now. I have never used hotplug but it seems interesting, if I understand correctly I can build my kernel as usual, enable the modules that I want/need make the kernel and set hotplug to run in the default runtime and have hotplug load all the modules that I need when I need them without me having to put them in /etc/modules.autoload (BTW when did /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-version replace /etc/modules.autoload...I just realized this today.)? I know that was a long sentence but I'm trying to understand hotplug and it sounds really interesting. If someone could correct me or clarify that what I think is true then I definitely have some kernel rebuilding in my near future. Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading
I just recently looked over the new 1.4 install instructions, very nice job by the way. I noticed that hotplug is used by default in the install now. I have never used hotplug but it seems interesting, if I understand correctly I can build my kernel as usual, enable the modules that I want/need make the kernel and set hotplug to run in the default runtime and have hotplug load all the modules that I need when I need them without me having to put them in /etc/modules.autoload (BTW when did /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-version replace /etc/modules.autoload...I just realized this today.)? I know that was a long sentence but I'm trying to understand hotplug and it sounds really interesting. If someone could correct me or clarify that what I think is true then I definitely have some kernel rebuilding in my near future. Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems
- Original Message - From: "Jason Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 01:10, Tom St.Denis wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:04:48 -0400 > > > > "Tom St.Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Perhaps, try emerging gpm to see if the mouse works on > > >>console. Or just cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse > > >>around. ;-) > > > > Ok wierd. I ram > > > > gpm -m /dev/mouse > > > > and my keyboard locked up. so maybe when USB is kicked in > > it kills hardware? Knoppix works [I tried it recently] > > with all it's USB mouse/PS2 keyboard glory [using > > 2.4.21-xfs from knoppix] > > Well then, you've isolated the problem (further). Some sort of conflict > between usb and ps2. > > > So maybe the problem is actually in a recent USB tools > > update? > > There were updates to usbutils on the 7th and 8th of this month, so you can > try downgrading it. Have you tried acpi=off and such options to the kernel? Sorry much too late. I have work todo so I sadly moved back to WinXP [arrg] for the time being. Thanks anyways. For what it's worth I had -r1 of usbutils installed [so did my bro] which is older than this month [by default emerge usbutils will get -r1]. My setup was fairly typical: AMD XP 2400+ ASUS A7V333 Motherboard USB Mouse [Microsoft IntelliMouse] PS2 Keyboard [104-key fairly standard thingy] IDE hard disk, IDE cdrom [LG combo] CMPCI audio BTTV tv tuner GeForce Ti200 Video Card In my most recent build with 2.4.20-r7 [gentoo-sources], 2.4.20 [vanilla] and 2.4.22 all of the devices seemed to load correctly. The trouble was as soon as I tried to use the mouse the keyboard controller halted. The keyboard kept buffering keys though [which was wierd]. I had installed Gentoo 1.4 in July and it worked perfectly. So the break is in one of the usb related tools/drivers merged in since I last installed. I've tried a 1.4 released CD [athlon-xp] and a x86-1.4 [sept 9th] basic bootstrap build. Both failed. Anyways, I have school work todo and a book to write so I have to just use WinXP to get work done [no way!] Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 01:10, Tom St.Denis wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:04:48 -0400 > > "Tom St.Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Perhaps, try emerging gpm to see if the mouse works on > >>console. Or just cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse > >>around. ;-) > > Ok wierd. I ram > > gpm -m /dev/mouse > > and my keyboard locked up. so maybe when USB is kicked in > it kills hardware? Knoppix works [I tried it recently] > with all it's USB mouse/PS2 keyboard glory [using > 2.4.21-xfs from knoppix] Well then, you've isolated the problem (further). Some sort of conflict between usb and ps2. > So maybe the problem is actually in a recent USB tools > update? There were updates to usbutils on the 7th and 8th of this month, so you can try downgrading it. Have you tried acpi=off and such options to the kernel? > I'm going to try and merge in 2.4.21 and see if it works > [then 2.4.20] but I did have 2.4.22 working with gentoo > just last week [though I had set it up a few months before > that so the usbtools was probably not a recent update on > my box]. If this helps Which flavour of kernel are you running at the moment? Perhaps there has been a minor revision in the patches that is causing something? Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 14:57, Owen Gunden wrote: > Why is emerge -DUpv world trying to install gpm? > > I am not USEing gpm, and I don't have any of the apps that directly depend > on gpm installed: > And yet emerge -DUpv world shows: > > [ebuild N] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1 > [ebuild U ] media-libs/sdl-image-1.2.3 [1.2.2] > [ebuild U ] media-libs/sdl-net-1.2.5 [1.2.4] > [ebuild N] dev-db/edb-1.0.3 > [ebuild N] media-libs/imlib2-1.0.6-r1 > [ebuild U ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.0.4 [2.0.3] > [ebuild U ] app-admin/gkrellm-2.1.16 [2.1.15] +gtk +gtk2 -nls > [ebuild U ] games-rpg/freedroid-1.0.2 [1.0.1] +oggvorbis > > Any idea why emerge insists on installing gpm? gpm is in the default use flags so to not use gpm you need to have "-gpm" in your use flags. As for what is trying to pull it in, try "emerge -evp world | grep '+gpm'". When I do it, I find xemacs and giftcurs. I'm yet to figure what is pulling in xemacs, but I like it in giftcurs because I can then use the mouse in a kterm. Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with bind.
Collins Richey wrote:
To settle the matter about shorewall, just change your Shorewall conf/rules
temporarily to log all reject actions instead of quietly dropping them. Analyze
the log, and you will quickly see whether Shorewall has anything to do with the
problem. If so, then you have the data (src, destination, ports, etc.) to
cobble new rules.
Thanks for the help... After following your suggestion, I soon
discovered that shorewall was not at fault, which prevented me wasting
more time with it.
By running "netstat -l" I soon found the problem, which was that in
named.conf I had somehow added the line:
listen-on { 127.0.0.1 };
so it was only listening on the localhost interface, which explains why
it worked from the firewall machine but not from any of my other local
machines.
This line was not in my original Mandrake file... I think it must have
come from my misuse of etc-update to merge config files!
- Steven
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Re: [gentoo-user] Last night emerge -u world has broken gkrellm2 and kopete
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 11:31 am, Patrick Börjesson wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:30:06 -0700 > > Timothy Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm guessing that binutils has something to do with it, but I'm not > > sure. > > Actually it's gcc's fault. gcc-3.3.1-r2 seems to break packages for most > people. > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28875 > > > Any suggestions on remedying this would be greatly appreciated. > > Yep, just emerge an earlier version of gcc, preferably 3.2.x. Don't know > if 3.3 should be masked or not but it seems to break alot of peoples > systems. The solution for me was to mask all versions of gcc-3.3 and > then reemerge gcc. Add this to /etc/portage/package.mask to mask > > gcc-3.3: > >=sys-devel/gcc-3.3_alpha1 > > You also have to reemerge all packages that were compiled with > gcc-3.3-r2 for them to work again. Patrick, Thank you so very much you were exactly right. It was libxslt that was broken. -- Stand Fast, tjg. Timothy Grant www.craigelachie.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote: > * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Hello Jean, > > > I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know > > what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? > > As the first person that replied to this message stated it really > depends on what you want to do; > > A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT > connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever > going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill. > > Phil Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable. Jayson Garrell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What creates System.map, config and vmlinuz?
Mark Knecht wrote:
QUESTION 2: What is the process to create these files if I want them?
Just use installkernel script from sys-apps/debianutils (AFAIK, this
package are in 'system', so installed automaticaly while initial
install) after make {bzImage,modules,modules_install}.
This script:
1) Copy your bzImage, System.map and .config to /boot and name this
files as vmlinuz-, System.map-, config- (ex.
vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 etc.)
2) Make the symlinks to this files (vmlinuz->vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r5,
System.map->System.map-2.4.20-gentoo-r5, ...)
3) If symlinks already exists, rename old symlinls to .old
4) Check for lilo presence and, if lilo present, run lilo to reflect
kernel changes
So, if you use this script, symlink 'vmlinuz' in your /boot directory
always point to latest installed kernel, and 'vmlinuz.old' - to previus
kernel version. Also, 'System.map' point to System.map for latest
kernel, and 'System.map.old' - for previous, and some theme for kernel
config files (.config). And then your install new kernel, this simlinks
just 'shifted' for new version. This way, you don't need change anything
in bootloader config file - you once setup two boot menu items for
newest and old kernel and this items always work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] small network
* Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello all, Hello Jean, > I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know > what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? As the first person that replied to this message stated it really depends on what you want to do; A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill. Phil -- http://www.philscorner.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Last night emerge -u world has broken gkrellm2 and kopete
I run '~x86' Last night I emerged the following... emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / emerge (1 of 26) sys-apps/which-2.16 to / emerge (2 of 26) x11-misc/commonbox-utils-0.4 to / emerge (3 of 26) x11-wm/fluxbox-0.1.14-r2 to / emerge (4 of 26) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / Killed emerge 5 to go home from work Started again at home emerge (1 of 22) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r2 to / emerge (2 of 22) dev-util/intltool-0.27.2 to / emerge (3 of 22) media-sound/xmms-1.2.8-r2 to / emerge (4 of 22) sys-apps/psmisc-21.2-r4 to / emerge (5 of 22) sys-apps/module-init-tools-0.9.14 to / emerge (6 of 22) dev-libs/atk-1.4.0 to / emerge (7 of 22) dev-libs/libxslt-1.0.33 to / emerge (8 of 22) x11-libs/xosd-2.2.4-r2 to / emerge (9 of 22) dev-lang/nasm-0.98.38 to / emerge (10 of 22) media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre1 to / Died here due to MD5 sums being incorrect However, when I got to work this morning and fired my notebook back up, both kopete and gkrellm2 refused to start my backup IM (gaim) also refused to start. All of them were segfaulting. The rest of my kde stuff still appears to work so I'd love to know what I've done wrong. I rebuilt both gkrellm and kopete and they still behave the same way. I'm guessing that binutils has something to do with it, but I'm not sure. gaim does provide the following information before dieing... (process:14076): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib (process:14076): Gdk-WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers Any suggestions on remedying this would be greatly appreciated. -- Stand Fast, tjg. Timothy Grant www.craigelachie.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:29:48 -0400 Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 16 September 2003 02:02 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > > Have you checked the Allow,Deny settings in cpusd.conf? > > > Thanks Collins. You got me looking at cupsd.conf again. I did a diff > with the conf from the other machine that was working and found that > the server was listening on MRK:631. I changed that to 127.0.0.1:631 > and all is fine now. > -- Cool. If I could spell, you might have gotten there quicker . -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] researching older package revisions
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:36:39 -0700 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >What command can I use to find out what revisions of a package exist out > there in portage? [snip] >How can I get a list of all the possible revisions of a specific package > so that I don't just hunt and peck for the right numbers? Hi Mark, You could simply look in the portage directory. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .../portage/app-admin/gkrellm> pwd /usr/portage/app-admin/gkrellm [EMAIL PROTECTED] .../portage/app-admin/gkrellm> ls ChangeLog files/ gkrellm-2.1.10.ebuild gkrellm-2.1.16.ebuild Manifest gkrellm-1.2.13.ebuild gkrellm-2.1.15.ebuild I haven't done an emerge sync lately, but it shows versions 2.1.10, .13, .15 and .16. For other packages, look in the particular directory. Cheers, A> -- Anthony Floyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xander: The quick draw is about more than speed. It's also about pointing the stake the right way. And there can be splinter issues. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:19:16 -0400 Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different > subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. > > I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous post, > I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same child error > as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then starting it and > restarting it run without error. Trying to access cups at MRK:631 now > gives me: > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. > > This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea where to > look. > Have you checked the Allow,Deny settings in cpusd.conf? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Stats
Jay Carson wrote: Anyone know whats going on with gentoo-stats. I just finished building my system and everything seems to work, but when I type: gentoo-stats --new I receive the following error Obtaining new system ID... There was an error when obtaining a new system ID (proxy?). Please try again later. This has been happening for a while now... and there is no proxy. Unmerge gentoo-stats. That project has died and has seen no activity for long. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Fw: OpenSSH heads-up
> > >Erg. > >eta on gentoo ? > I synced and emerged when I first saw that warning today, and it was already in. Your favorite mirror my just be lagging. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm dependency?
Owen Gunden wrote: Why is emerge -DUpv world trying to install gpm? Good question. It's annoying when that happens. The only explanation is that it is a dependency. Inject it if you really don't want it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] researching older package revisions
Hi, What command can I use to find out what revisions of a package exist out there in portage? My machine runs with ~x86 as standard. Lucky or unlucky a while back I ended up with gcc33 emerged. Actually it hasn't been too bad, but there have been a few problems. One happened today with an update of gkrellm to revision 2.1.19 which won't run for me. Segfaults. Other issue arise. Out of this I wanted to go backwards to the version I had before. I *thought* (from memory only) that I had been using 2.1.18, but I haven't been able to find it. I removed gkrellm completely and tried removing the ~x86. This installed 2.1.16 which runs fine. I put the ~x86 back in and tried 'emerge =app-admin/gkrellm-2.1.18' and it's not found, but I can find 2.1.16 and 2.1.19 this way. I somehow don't think the rev number jumped from 2.1.16 directly to 2.1.19, but it might have. How can I get a list of all the possible revisions of a specific package so that I don't just hunt and peck for the right numbers? Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Last night emerge -u world has broken gkrellm2 and kopete
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:30:06 -0700 Timothy Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm guessing that binutils has something to do with it, but I'm not > sure. Actually it's gcc's fault. gcc-3.3.1-r2 seems to break packages for most people. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28875 > Any suggestions on remedying this would be greatly appreciated. Yep, just emerge an earlier version of gcc, preferably 3.2.x. Don't know if 3.3 should be masked or not but it seems to break alot of peoples systems. The solution for me was to mask all versions of gcc-3.3 and then reemerge gcc. Add this to /etc/portage/package.mask to mask gcc-3.3: >=sys-devel/gcc-3.3_alpha1 You also have to reemerge all packages that were compiled with gcc-3.3-r2 for them to work again. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key id: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at search.keyserver.net[:11371] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox hates me
Thanks for replying! On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:14:57PM +0200, Marcin Daczkowski wrote: > > session.screen0.rootCommand:~/.xsessio > > in my ~/.fluxbox/init file because under no other circumstances did > > gentoo's startup sequence for fluxbox read .xinit, .xsession, or any > > other file I tried. > > hmm... what kind of *dm do u use? xdm works perfectly with me, the > xsession looks like: This is using gdm and choosing "Xsession" as my session. Sorry, I should have mentioned that originally. > > #!/bin/sh > > exec wmcpuload & > .. > exec fluxbox > > btw. what version of flux do u use? > Version of fluxbox is 0.1.14-r2. I notice there are several newer versions, but they must be masked out. When I do "emerge -p fluxbox" I get [ebuild R ] x11-wm/fluxbox-0.1.14-r2 My .xsession file contains: #!/bin/sh #load this to have gtk2 apps look ok GSDPID=`pidof gnome-settings-daemon` if [ "x$GSDPID" == "x" ]; then /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon & fi APPSRUNNING=`pidof pclock` if [ "x$APPSRUNNING" == "x" ]; then pclock & fi The "APPSRUNNING" hack was to keep fluxbox from loading multiple copies of pclock and the other applets in the slit if I reloaded fluxbox from the menu. Fluxbox is not in the file because it starts whether I have it in .xsession or not, and having it in two places just seems to be complicating things. > hmm. queer i done the same and everything still works fine. have you > checked it for all styles that are supposed to change background? is the > rootCommand in style u checked correct? hmm, maybe sth has corrupted it > :> or maybe images were removed :> The rootCommands are unchanged from when I emerged fluxbox, and they work from the command line. I don't know if I've tried every single style on the menu, but the ones I've tried all exhibit this behavior. This is why it's so frustrating. It worked originally, and everything I've read indicates that it should work now -- but it doesn't. :/ > i think u should ask on fluxbox-users mailing list for better help :) Oh probably, but I posted here in case it is a gentoo issue -- and because I subscribe to this list, but not (at present) to fluxbox-users. Thanks again! -- Creede -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 02:02 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:19:16 -0400 > > Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different > > subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. > > > > I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous > > post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same > > child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then > > starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to access > > cups at MRK:631 now gives me: > > > > Forbidden > > > > You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. > > > > This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea > > where to look. > > Have you checked the Allow,Deny settings in cpusd.conf? Thanks Collins. You got me looking at cupsd.conf again. I did a diff with the conf from the other machine that was working and found that the server was listening on MRK:631. I changed that to 127.0.0.1:631 and all is fine now. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
I'm not certain I know how to interpret this but here's the top of netstat -l: # netstat -l Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp0 0 *:1314 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:6346 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:netbios-ssn *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:6000 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 MRK.schroder.com:631*:* LISTEN tcp0 0 localhost.localdom:smtp *:* LISTEN udp0 0 MRK.schroder:netbios-ns *:* udp0 0 *:netbios-ns*:* udp0 0 MRK.schrode:netbios-dgm *:* udp0 0 *:netbios-dgm *:* udp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* udp0 0 *:631 *:* udp0 0 MRK.schroder.com:ntp*:* udp0 0 localhost.localdoma:ntp *:* udp0 0 *:ntp *:* It looks to me that I am listening on 631. Does this help? On Tuesday 16 September 2003 01:17 pm, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: > Have you tried a netstat to see if the port is really in use? > > Regards > Jose > > Ernie Schroder wrote: > >Jose, > > I tried the cups-1.1.18-r5 version that did work in the past and > > that is no help. Interestingly, the Child exited error has > > changed from ststus 99 to status 98. I googled the error and > > found at > >http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_4_2 > > > >Section 4: CUPS Errors > > > >4.2 cupsd: Child exited with status 98!? > > > >Another process is using the port that cupsd listens to > > (default 631). It might be the rpc.rquotad deamon. Either disable > > this deamon or make sure cupsd starts before nfs. > > > >There is no rpc.rquotad deamon running or even in /etc/init.d > >and nfs-utils is not emerged. I tried emerge -C cups and emerging > > the 1.1.18-r5 version that worked in the past. I'm confused. > > > >Thanks > > > >On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:49 am, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: > >>Ernie, > >> > >>I had some problems with cups and several related packaged > >> some time ago and I finally opted for reemerging an old version. > >> My problems were related to printing (maybe something broken in > >> drivers) so I'm sorry I cannot offer any help to you. Anyway if > >> you cannot afford to lose more time you may go to an prior > >> version. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Ernie Schroder wrote: > >>>HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different > >>>subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. > >>> > >>>I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous > >>>post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same > >>>child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and > >>> then starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to > >>> access cups at MRK:631 now gives me: > >>> > >>>Forbidden > >>> > >>>You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. > >>> > >>>This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea > >>>where to look. > >>> > >>>I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to > >>>configure a printer. > >>> > >>>On Monday 15 September 2003 07:31 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: > I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but > still cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the > problem started at the last cups update. (somewhere around > 8/4/03) It is a USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. > After re-emerging the above apps, I attempted to restart cups > and got the !! next to "stopping cupsd" So, I rebooted. during > the boot sequence, I saw the following message: > > starting cupsd > [OK] cupsd: Child exited with status 99! > > # cupsdconf[returns] > > Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You > probably don't have the access permissions to perform this > operation. > > opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the > following error in a pop up window: > > Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received > from manager: > Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is > correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. > > I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 > in a browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the > outside, though Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks > like I have something messed up somewhere but I can't figure > it out. Anyone have an idea? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsof
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox hates me
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:49:50 -0700 Creede Lambard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > session.screen0.rootCommand:~/.xsessio > in my ~/.fluxbox/init file because under no other circumstances did > gentoo's startup sequence for fluxbox read .xinit, .xsession, or any > other file I tried. hmm... what kind of *dm do u use? xdm works perfectly with me, the .xsession looks like: #!/bin/sh exec wmcpuload & ... exec fluxbox btw. what version of flux do u use? > themes, seeing what they all looked like, watching Fury-NG change the > background to gentoo.jpg, and so forth. Then, I decided to switch the > background color in the "Background Color" menu, and suddenly, the > "rootCommand" entries from the styles wouldn't execute anymore. No > matter what I do the background stays the same. This is the same for > xv and bsetroot, both of which exist and both of which work from the > command line. hmm. queer i done the same and everything still works fine. have you checked it for all styles that are supposed to change background? is the rootCommand in style u checked correct? hmm, maybe sth has corrupted it :> or maybe images were removed :> i think u should ask on fluxbox-users mailing list for better help :) greets, Marcin `babun` Daczkowski -- my PGP public key available via $finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] or via my website http://daczkowski.civ.pl/daczkowski.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: OpenSSH heads-up
Thanks :) P - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bucknum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Fw: OpenSSH heads-up | | > | > | >Erg. | > | >eta on gentoo ? | > | | I synced and emerged when I first saw that warning today, and it was already | in. Your favorite mirror my just be lagging. | | -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list | | | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:19:16 -0400 Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous post, > I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same child error > as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then starting it and > restarting it run without error. Trying to access cups at MRK:631 now > gives me: > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. > > This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea where to > look. > > I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to > configure a printer. > Second try. Permissions? /etc/cups/ is root.lp /var/log/cups is lp.lp -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail server migration?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, raptor wrote: > how do u do mail-server migration.. > I mean changing the machine (and the IP).. > I mean migration in such a way that all users emails > are preserved and there is no interuption in the service...!?! > I'm with postfix. What are the details of the server? Will the old and new be identical, other than hardware? What services other than postfix are on the server? What type of mailboxes are you using? Are the mailboxes on the mail server or a different machine? Do you have local (real) users or virtual users? This should be a good start. I've done a mail server migration (qmail to postfix w/maildir, local users) without any problem. -- Marshal Newrock, unemployed Linux user in Lansing, MI Caution: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem couldn't be fixed?
begin quote On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:57:23 +0200 Terje Kvernes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [ ... ] > > > Thats strange, 40Mb for root? Unless you partitioned /usr off I'm > > really quite curious about how you managed to do that. > > giving /usr a partition of its own isn't that odd, is it? :-) Not really, I find it a bit hard to predict how large it shall be though. > then again, my home server currently has around 20 partitions. of > these, seven are system-related: /, /boot, /opt, /usr, /local, /var, > /var/tmp. the rest of the partitions are data-related, be it music, > cvs, tftproot, chroot-environments, images etc. and yes, I do of > course run LVM with all of this stuff. > Hmm, okeis, Makes me wonder, how much space do you "waste" on such a setup to make it accept the constant bloating of software? //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
Have you tried a netstat to see if the port is really in use? Regards Jose Ernie Schroder wrote: Jose, I tried the cups-1.1.18-r5 version that did work in the past and that is no help. Interestingly, the Child exited error has changed from ststus 99 to status 98. I googled the error and found at http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_4_2 Section 4: CUPS Errors 4.2 cupsd: Child exited with status 98!? Another process is using the port that cupsd listens to (default 631). It might be the rpc.rquotad deamon. Either disable this deamon or make sure cupsd starts before nfs. There is no rpc.rquotad deamon running or even in /etc/init.d and nfs-utils is not emerged. I tried emerge -C cups and emerging the 1.1.18-r5 version that worked in the past. I'm confused. Thanks On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:49 am, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: Ernie, I had some problems with cups and several related packaged some time ago and I finally opted for reemerging an old version. My problems were related to printing (maybe something broken in drivers) so I'm sorry I cannot offer any help to you. Anyway if you cannot afford to lose more time you may go to an prior version. Regards Ernie Schroder wrote: HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to access cups at MRK:631 now gives me: Forbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea where to look. I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to configure a printer. On Monday 15 September 2003 07:31 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but still cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the problem started at the last cups update. (somewhere around 8/4/03) It is a USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. After re-emerging the above apps, I attempted to restart cups and got the !! next to "stopping cupsd" So, I rebooted. during the boot sequence, I saw the following message: starting cupsd [OK] cupsd: Child exited with status 99! # cupsdconf[returns] Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You probably don't have the access permissions to perform this operation. opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the following error in a pop up window: Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 in a browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the outside, though Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks like I have something messed up somewhere but I can't figure it out. Anyone have an idea?
Re: [gentoo-user] kylix 3 problem in gentoo
it looks very cool. I will try it. thanx. On Tuesday 16 September 2003 19:14, Robert Young wrote: > no. But > Have you tried > > http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ > > A delphi clone. > > I an not aware of any ebuild for it yet though. (Maybe I will take a stab > at trying to create one, one of these days.) > > Rob > > Jan Meier wrote: > > Hi, > > I got a problem with kylix 3, if I exit kylix the computer freezes! I > > don't know why is that? > > Can anybody help? > > thanx > > Jan > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kylix 3 problem in gentoo
no. But Have you tried http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ A delphi clone. I an not aware of any ebuild for it yet though. (Maybe I will take a stab at trying to create one, one of these days.) Rob Jan Meier wrote: > Hi, > I got a problem with kylix 3, if I exit kylix the computer freezes! I don't > know why is that? > Can anybody help? > thanx > Jan > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] kylix 3 problem in gentoo
Hi, I got a problem with kylix 3, if I exit kylix the computer freezes! I don't know why is that? Can anybody help? thanx Jan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
Joshua Banks wrote: Hello Dhruba, Can you give a specific example please, from the command line? Actually, I'm just talking about the command syntax that I would use if I were to use your suggestion of: ebuild /path/to/ebuild postinst Can you give me a real world example of the above please so that I know for sure what your talking about. Thanks, Joshua Banks Sure no problem. For example, to read the messages that appear after merging mozilla do: $ ebuild /usr/portage/net-www/mozilla/mozilla-1.4-r3.ebuild postinst * Please unmerge old versions of mozilla, as the header * layout in /usr/lib/mozilla/include have changed and will * result in compile errors when compiling programs that need * mozilla headers and libs (galeon, nautilus, ...) This has the drawback that if there are any actions in postinst() other than comments then those will also be executed when you run the above command. The clever way is to merely read the ebuild. HTH. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
Hello Dhruba, Can you give a specific example please, from the command line? Actually, I'm just talking about the command syntax that I would use if I were to use your suggestion of: ebuild /path/to/ebuild postinst Can you give me a real world example of the above please so that I know for sure what your talking about. Thanks, Joshua Banks --- Dhruba Bandopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. > > > > But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for > > different reasons failed to capture. The message said something like: > > > > "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that it?] you > > can delete the following packages from your system:" > > > > And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: > > > > - textutils > > - fileutils > > - sh-utils > > > > I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? > > > > Biker > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > You can read any missed message again by doing: > > ebuild /path/to/ebuild postinst > > -- > Dhruba Bandopadhyay | dhruba[AT]codewordt.co.uk | ICQ: 31628525 > Dev-sources-test4-bk6 | XFree-4.3.0-r3 | Nvidia-1.0.4496 | E-0.16.6-pre7 > | ~x86 > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] GRP Instructions
Hi, I am new to gentoo, looking for a minimal installation guide for the GRP -- I tried following the full 1.4 instructions a couple of times but got hopelessly tangled in the emerge stuff. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lee -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for different reasons failed to capture. The message said something like: "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that it?] you can delete the following packages from your system:" And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: - textutils - fileutils - sh-utils I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? Biker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list You can read any missed message again by doing: ebuild /path/to/ebuild postinst -- Dhruba Bandopadhyay | dhruba[AT]codewordt.co.uk | ICQ: 31628525 Dev-sources-test4-bk6 | XFree-4.3.0-r3 | Nvidia-1.0.4496 | E-0.16.6-pre7 | ~x86 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail server migration?
raptor wrote: how do u do mail-server migration.. I mean changing the machine (and the IP).. I mean migration in such a way that all users emails are preserved and there is no interuption in the service...!?! I'm with postfix. basically it's very simple in case you are going to change machine and IP ... 1. prepare and configure new system, put it on the network (with new IP) 2. completely test functionality of incomming mail by telneting to port 25 (because no DNS MX record showing to your new server) 3. completly test outgoing mail 4. (re)configure one mail client to use new mail server and TEST it ! 5. If not passed point 2. goto point 1. 6. Change MX record for your domain on appropriate DNS server and restart it. 7. Wait until new record propagate to all the inet or reconfigure your old mailserver as relay (forwarder) to new one 8. On every client the last time download mails and reconfigure it to use new server 9. Drink your vine, beer, tee, 100% fruit juice or natural water, but not chemically prepared sweet limonads :-) . noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:04:48 -0400 "Tom St.Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps, try emerging gpm to see if the mouse works on console. Or just cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse around. ;-) Ok wierd. I ram gpm -m /dev/mouse and my keyboard locked up. so maybe when USB is kicked in it kills hardware? Knoppix works [I tried it recently] with all it's USB mouse/PS2 keyboard glory [using 2.4.21-xfs from knoppix] So maybe the problem is actually in a recent USB tools update? I'm going to try and merge in 2.4.21 and see if it works [then 2.4.20] but I did have 2.4.22 working with gentoo just last week [though I had set it up a few months before that so the usbtools was probably not a recent update on my box]. If this helps lsmod output: --- Module Size Used byTainted: GF cmpci 33260 0 (unused) tulip 42304 1 tuner 10880 1 (autoclean) tvaudio14268 0 (autoclean) (unused) bttv 96320 0 (unused) videodev6272 2 [bttv] i2c-algo-bit7656 1 [bttv] soundcore 3908 4 [cmpci bttv] i2c-core 13636 0 [tuner tvaudio bttv i2c-algo-bit] rivafb 43176 63 mousedev4404 0 (unused) joydev 6080 0 (unused) usbmouse2296 0 (unused) usb-storage69404 0 (unused) hid15380 0 (unused) uhci 25792 0 (unused) ehci-hcd 17632 0 (unused) usbcore63200 1 [usbmouse usb-storage hid uhci ehci-hcd] --- Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
Jose, I tried the cups-1.1.18-r5 version that did work in the past and that is no help. Interestingly, the Child exited error has changed from ststus 99 to status 98. I googled the error and found at http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_4_2 Section 4: CUPS Errors 4.2 cupsd: Child exited with status 98!? Another process is using the port that cupsd listens to (default 631). It might be the rpc.rquotad deamon. Either disable this deamon or make sure cupsd starts before nfs. There is no rpc.rquotad deamon running or even in /etc/init.d and nfs-utils is not emerged. I tried emerge -C cups and emerging the 1.1.18-r5 version that worked in the past. I'm confused. Thanks On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:49 am, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: > Ernie, > > I had some problems with cups and several related packaged some > time ago and I finally opted for reemerging an old version. My > problems were related to printing (maybe something broken in > drivers) so I'm sorry I cannot offer any help to you. Anyway if you > cannot afford to lose more time you may go to an prior version. > > Regards > > Ernie Schroder wrote: > >HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different > >subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. > > > >I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous > > post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same > > child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then > > starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to access > > cups at MRK:631 now gives me: > > > >Forbidden > > > >You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. > > > >This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea > > where to look. > > > >I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to > >configure a printer. > > > >On Monday 15 September 2003 07:31 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: > >>I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but > >> still cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the > >> problem started at the last cups update. (somewhere around > >> 8/4/03) It is a USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. > >> After re-emerging the above apps, I attempted to restart cups > >> and got the !! next to "stopping cupsd" So, I rebooted. during > >> the boot sequence, I saw the following message: > >> > >>starting cupsd > >>[OK] cupsd: Child exited with status 99! > >> > >># cupsdconf[returns] > >> > >>Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You > >>probably don't have the access permissions to perform this > >>operation. > >> > >>opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the > >>following error in a pop up window: > >> > >>Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from > >>manager: > >>Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is > >>correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. > >> > >>I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 > >> in a browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the outside, > >> though Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks like I have > >> something messed up somewhere but I can't figure it out. Anyone > >> have an idea? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:53:14 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. > > > > But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for > > different reasons failed to capture. The message said something > > like: > > > > "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that > > it?] you can delete the following packages from your system:" > > > > And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: > > > > - textutils > > - fileutils > > - sh-utils > > > > I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? > > > > Biker > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > You can read any missed message again by doing: > > ebuild /path/to/ebuild postinst > > -- > Dhruba Bandopadhyay | dhruba[AT]codewordt.co.uk | ICQ: 31628525 > Dev-sources-test4-bk6 | XFree-4.3.0-r3 | Nvidia-1.0.4496 | > E-0.16.6-pre7 > | ~x86 > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > Coreutils are the gnu standard utils, that were fileutils, shellutils and textutils. But recently the mantainers have joined them in one package. You can get more info here: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ Raharu, Sorry for my english -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBD9mHrARBACVOX21wEnyWbbf+hZl92n4tan3bjgF49eH0qi58RHBaOhHI1Lu D5wY13aUYH++XDDjMkVCSKa/jMrvmOPB1Cz5i6d2oafWulXHBo6Ha06jT+9iQ03J ZDDa+6wZlsFwAjk9UUOz5wMJW8XWTWLP+DrtfOqfVg4JGowx9zYEM4Kn+wCgor7i 1S+7JS6ecNWpPN+pt9PisyMD/3uk9Mp9XMh/w+pRU4TOcpKebzunYvOkdLSMlKrv FMMBFUztW0Gt/wS73GUKusS+ORar5q7fyaFiQdXc0UjdxuaSiIZLDl0Px76NoiAy 8/Amf4/AAZI6TmOUL/KqqoN3Q8kEvxhlnY0OtA/Cnb81LVSlull7ot29KWspZCS0 1MnHBACEnVtwiYjkslQDVOBiKOnsKfpEhhYU+YALxTurk9xHP6EszYI2/bADEVuH qvTt19W/UR6FRaetkI/1pQ/zEGIUi/6K+hsKsRyi0NpNrfjvEzn7p+z3hdjZfMQD iwV97+jjJsI+PLP0rycK56NwuLI9zsUcV2KsdOH2n4jsyo/8ALQzUmFoYXJ1IFN0 dWRpb3MgKHd3dy5yYWhhcnUub3JnKSA8cmFoYXJ1QHJhaGFydS5vcmc+iFsEExEC ABsFAj9mHrAGCwkIBwMCAxUCAwMWAgECHgECF4AACgkQlajEbd+ev6VY2ACgolH/ 0nuC8pBKVMG2egeZCnTUprEAn3ueGHKMNdFLoM6PZZoYhsl0K3w6uQENBD9mHrEQ BACU3u44hKgz5XmNepxheuw1/LGNDBkxSWiovju25RPucEDqx7MN3d0wn3o8YSmN /wzTpYDtMZlgfWJlA7hYLS1iO6elb68dMjpi3ij/zA8Nk+Yz7nnBnScF08+pAM94 MH+nOIt4uBtX1aWC87YrwORHquo2zwSlpq/FfDgXq+AEfwADBQP+J12Xqe/gI5vg sv6K18Q6YHhbeYkK0rXbSP/taNHprIi84ENCC0WnLMkDUqIEXD2YJJqNdU/Ct2Yd brwXXpC5njSJT5MvtrCPoXdCCHa2LayvuTfeLCR2khqoquHmr07NrvyyC3nwEdPA Uyk03CWWqgiTyjTZnaVvyE+C8oRdUzyIRgQYEQIABgUCP2YesQAKCRCVqMRt356/ pYQfAJ9TgFvoyAORVe+eKRsMBKYTo1zeHgCff0fZuIu4mFqTZ62mBimB7bAMvdo= =1N6Q -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mail server migration?
|Hi, | |Firstly I dont suggest you do this if you dont already know postfix quite |well, |if at all possible maby get some help or give a freind a call who might be |able to |help you out if you get stuck. | |Secondly you should also maby spend some time reading about postfix before |considering this. | |Now There are a few things you would have to tell us before we could try |to help you |are you going from gentoo + postfix to gentoo + postfix ? are you |reinstalling the gentoo machine |if so why ? are you just changing the ip ? or are you making a whole |reinstall for anther whole reason ? ]- ok... it is a postfix install on mandrake which I did.. It is working rock solid no problem. I would want to move it to gentoo-box. The reason for this is I want to free the old machine (it is not so old :")) from this service.. Other reasons is that it is rather hard to upgrade postfix on this machine via urpmi, u know :") Also i want to set spare machine for mai, web-mail, antivir, spam-filering etc.. instead of using current one. The config of the new mail will be almost untouched... except changed addresses of cource.. The real problems is handling DNS + /mail-queues and + user+mailboxes changes. Even this is not hard if I have the choice to do this with big interuption, that is what i can't do :"( My initial idea was : Setting the new mail server with higher prvilege in DNS, so from the time this DNS change get updated worldwide (it is aprox. 2 days, isnt it) all mail will go to the new mail server. the problems is what is happening in between... and how to transffer old mail's & queues concurently to the new server, so that they are available and not duplicate... In fact that is the BIG trouble.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFree86/KDE Problems
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:59:17 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a PS/2 style keyboard and a USB [microsoft] mouse. Were you using the same kernel the last time you were running Gentoo? Perhaps some incompatibility? Yup. I was using 2.4.22 from kernel.org [I used genkernel but I downloaded it myself]. I saved the config to another drive and am using it again for this build. Perhaps, try emerging gpm to see if the mouse works on console. Or just cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse around. ;-) I'll try that when I get come from school. I noticed that when I cat'ed /dev/psaux [which is what I used originally] I get no output when I move the mouse. Wierd!. But that doesn't explain why the keyboard works in the console but not in X [for the record, when I use fvwm the keyboard/mouse doesn't work either so I'm sure it's an X problem not KDE] Also try doing something in background while you launch kdm to confirm if it's a hard lockup. Perhaps "kdm& sleep 60; reboot"? It isn't. I did a ping in another console window and the ethernet was still going. The cursor still blinks [in the username field] just the keyboard/mouse are locked out. Ahh, troubleshooting, eh? Just try to isolate the symptoms as much as possible. Thanks so far. Maybe I can put my conf files up on a website for people to browse. So far this is what I have done 1. Took 1.4 Athlon-XP cd 2. fdisked, formatted, installed stage3 3. emerge sync'ed and updated world 4. emerged the kernel, hotplug, lilo, metalog, dcron 5. rebooted 6. emerge sync'ed again 7. "emerge -u kde" 8. waited. 9. waited. 10. Ran KDM and boom no results. I should also add that I have tried the recent 1.4-basic [from sept 9'th] and got the same results [this was from a bootstrap build I started saturday night]. Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fw: OpenSSH heads-up
Erg. eta on gentoo ? P - Original Message - From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: OpenSSH heads-up OK, an official OpenSSH advisory was released, see here: http://www.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-announce/2003-September/63.html > The fix is currently in FreeBSD -CURRENT and -STABLE. It will be applied to the security branches as well today. Attached are patches: buffer46.patch -- For FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE and later buffer45.patch -- For FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE and earlier Currently, I don't believe that this bug is actually exploitable for code execution on FreeBSD, but I reserve the right to be wrong :-) Cheers, -- Jacques Vidrine . NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] buffer45.patch Description: Binary data buffer46.patch Description: Binary data ATT10825.dat Description: Binary data -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] fluxbox hates me
Well, it sure seems that way anyway. I have it installed and it's very nice (quite a change from Gnome and KDE), but it's been a struggle to get it to work the way I think it's supposed to. For instance, in order to get any applets running in the slit I had to do what I think is an ugly hack of setting session.screen0.rootCommand:~/.xsession in my ~/.fluxbox/init file because under no other circumstances did gentoo's startup sequence for fluxbox read .xinit, .xsession, or any other file I tried. So I have a clock, a load monitor and a few other applets running, but now I have a different problem. For a while I was happily switching themes, seeing what they all looked like, watching Fury-NG change the background to gentoo.jpg, and so forth. Then, I decided to switch the background color in the "Background Color" menu, and suddenly, the "rootCommand" entries from the styles wouldn't execute anymore. No matter what I do the background stays the same. This is the same for xv and bsetroot, both of which exist and both of which work from the command line. So, does anyone know why this should be? And, this color seems to be persistent -- it stays on the desktop when you restart from the menu, exit X and log back in, or reboot the computer (I know, I hate to do that, but it was an experiment). Anybody know where this color is stored? Finally, anybody know why style-directed fonts get so much bigger when I turn on antialiasing? If I turn on antialiasing suddenly the fonts grow to about double their previous size. The anti-aliased fonts look very nice but take up a bunch of screen space and I can only see the top half of the label in the window's tab. Thanks. -- * .~. `( ` / V \ . Creede Lambard: When Linux is outlawed, /( )\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : only outlaws will run Linux. ^^-^^ GPG key at http://www.penguinsinthenight.com/creede_public_key.asc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
Ernie, I had some problems with cups and several related packaged some time ago and I finally opted for reemerging an old version. My problems were related to printing (maybe something broken in drivers) so I'm sorry I cannot offer any help to you. Anyway if you cannot afford to lose more time you may go to an prior version. Regards Ernie Schroder wrote: HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to access cups at MRK:631 now gives me: Forbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea where to look. I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to configure a printer. On Monday 15 September 2003 07:31 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but still cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the problem started at the last cups update. (somewhere around 8/4/03) It is a USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. After re-emerging the above apps, I attempted to restart cups and got the !! next to "stopping cupsd" So, I rebooted. during the boot sequence, I saw the following message: starting cupsd [OK] cupsd: Child exited with status 99! # cupsdconf[returns] Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You probably don't have the access permissions to perform this operation. opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the following error in a pop up window: Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 in a browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the outside, though Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks like I have something messed up somewhere but I can't figure it out. Anyone have an idea?
Re: [gentoo-user] mail server migration?
Hi, Firstly I dont suggest you do this if you dont already know postfix quite well, if at all possible maby get some help or give a freind a call who might be able to help you out if you get stuck. Secondly you should also maby spend some time reading about postfix before considering this. Now There are a few things you would have to tell us before we could try to help you are you going from gentoo + postfix to gentoo + postfix ? are you reinstalling the gentoo machine if so why ? are you just changing the ip ? or are you making a whole reinstall for anther whole reason ? The more you tell us the more we can help. P - Original Message - From: "raptor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] mail server migration? | how do u do mail-server migration.. | I mean changing the machine (and the IP).. | I mean migration in such a way that all users emails | are preserved and there is no interuption in the service...!?! | I'm with postfix. | | thanx alot in advance | | -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list | | | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mail server migration?
how do u do mail-server migration.. I mean changing the machine (and the IP).. I mean migration in such a way that all users emails are preserved and there is no interuption in the service...!?! I'm with postfix. thanx alot in advance -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Replies to Gentoo Polls
The following lines are in EVERY Gentoo Poll, beneath the question. > >Please respond by emailing your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > >Please do NOT reply within the mailing list, any replies to the list > >will be not be counted. Discussion on the list about the poll are > >encouraged. Results will be summarized and posted in about a week. Perhaps those lines should precede the question so that the 10% who never seem to read further see them. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] SDL not built with joystick support
(B> On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote: (B> >There is a game on my Gentoo machine that my son plays sometimes. I (B> > built a new kernel a few days ago and apparently (I guess) I forgot to (B> > choose something to get this to work. What is SDL (or than Simple (B> > DirectMedia Layer) and where would I make a change to get this to work (B> > again? (B> (B> USE="joystick" emerge libsdl (B> (B> There was a new libsdl package made available recently that now obeys the (B> "joystick" USE flag. Either that or "joystick" was removed from (B> the default (B> USE flags - I believe it to be the former but have not checked. There are (B> several games that have the same problem. I just added "joystick" (B> to my USE (B> flags in make.conf and can now forget about it. (B> (B> Regards, (B> Jason (B (BThanks Jason. I had no idea this was from a library. Did a new version of (Bthis library just come out, get emerged in, and then because I didn't (Bpreviously have joystick in my make.conf file I lost this capability? That's (Ba bummer! ;-) (B (BOK, I'll check this out later today. Thanks very much! (B (B- Mark (B (B (B (B-- (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo or Knoppix for ancient laptop?
Hi Carl, Nachricht vom Dienstag, 16. September 2003, 14:47:28: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:39:48 +0200, Timo Boettcher wrote: >> I installed my laptop with a hdd adaptor to get the notebooks hdd >> working in my Athlon TB 1,2GHz. For maintaining it, I have an >> tar.gz image of the notebook on my dual P3 (these thinks rule, >> don't they? *g*), chroot in and rsync it over. > That's a good trick... probably makes upgrades much faster! Yeah. emerge sync takes about 10hours for me (the actual sync is something of minutes, but "updating dependency cache"... takes endless. My hdd is attached via ISA-Bus to CPU (that laptop has no internal PCI), so I get 2500Kb/s max from the hdd. With 14MB ram, that makes swapping really slow. >> It is possible to get a Gentoo Base-system in 800MB (including GCC >> AND Sources (that one was a server)). You might want to go really >> low with your fs-blocksize (1kb or so) to minimize loss. > That is a good idea! I could go even lower... I think DOS > floppies use 512-byte sectors; that would be good if most of the > files are small. Thats something to experiment with, calls for loopback-devices on the bigger machines... > A server running in 800MB? Yeah, without X and lots of user > programs, I can see that! Hey, I could go really retro and *not* > install X... use Emacs for everything... ;) You may want to have a look at framebuffer-things... you can run some higher resolutions, have graphical browser, even video-playback via mplayer (if it doesn't work, there is still that asci-art mode... *g*) >>> with (hd1,0), it does not work. (The Knoppix floppy also does not >>> work -- it says it cannot find any CD drives and drops me to a >>> horrible shell.) >> If you think a shell is horrible, are you sure you are right here? > It's not that I think *a* shell is horrible (Bash rocks!), > but *that* shell is! It doesn't even have "ls" or tab completion, so > if you want to run something, you'd better already know where it is. > :) OK, I know that kind of shells. Like DOS. > Anyway, I think I will have another try this weekend. Maybe > I could put QNX or something there if Gentoo doesn't work. ;) Gentoo DOES work. Timo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups Quandry
HMMM, 18 replies to my original thread and all with a different subject. Kevin, PLEASE start a new thread for new subjects. I'm still at a loss to get my printer working. Since my previous post, I've re-emerged foomatic as well. A reboot gave the same child error as before (see below) but now, zapping cupsd and then starting it and restarting it run without error. Trying to access cups at MRK:631 now gives me: Forbidden You don't have permission to access the resource on this server. This seems as though it might hold the key but I have no idea where to look. I also get the same errors as before if I try the kde rout to configure a printer. On Monday 15 September 2003 07:31 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote: > I have re-emerged cups, ghostscript, hpijs and gimp-print but still > cannot get my printer working again. I believe that the problem > started at the last cups update. (somewhere around 8/4/03) It is a > USB HP deskjet 932 and worked fine until then. After re-emerging > the above apps, I attempted to restart cups and got the !! next to > "stopping cupsd" So, I rebooted. during the boot sequence, I saw > the following message: > > starting cupsd > [OK] cupsd: Child exited with status 99! > > # cupsdconf[returns] > > Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You > probably don't have the access permissions to perform this > operation. > > opening the printer section of the KDE Control Center gives the > following error in a pop up window: > > Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from > manager: > Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is > correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused. > > I can't get into the web based cups page either. typing MRK:631 in > a browser takes me to some arbitrary web page on the outside, > though Ernie:631 on the other box works. It looks like I have > something messed up somewhere but I can't figure it out. Anyone > have an idea? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #8
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 09:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The question is: > > How many people will ignore your instructions and send their answers to > this list? ;-) I don't know about you, but all answers that I received through this list were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (right address) and cc'd to the list, so there is nothing to worry about except used bandwidth. Cheers, Renat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:51:36 -0400 "brett holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you can do it. These utilities were put in the core > utils. > > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:28:35 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > >This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems > >with this. > > > >But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message > >that I for > >different reasons failed to capture. The message said > >something like: > > > >"With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils > >[was that it?] you > >can delete the following packages from your system:" > > > >And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to > >remove: > > > >- textutils > >- fileutils > >- sh-utils > > > >I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? > > A big long sigh!!! And the reason that these aren't removed when coreutils is emerged would be? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
Thanks, Jason. :-) /ME goes looking for the 'emerge unmerge' keys on the keyboard... Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ndnews.com>cc: (bcc: Gustav Schaffter/CDS/CG/CAPITAL) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages? 16-09-2003 14:39 Please respond to gentoo-user On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. > > But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for > different reasons failed to capture. The message said something like: > > "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that it?] you > can delete the following packages from your system:" > > And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: > > - textutils > - fileutils > - sh-utils > > I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? I found these two interesting lines in fileutils-4.1.11-r2.ebuild: DESCRIPTION="textutils, sh-utils and fileutils are replaced by coreutils" RDEPEND=">=sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r3" Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
Yes, you can do it. These utilities were put in the core utils. On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:28:35 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for different reasons failed to capture. The message said something like: "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that it?] you can delete the following packages from your system:" And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: - textutils - fileutils - sh-utils I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? Biker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo or Knoppix for ancient laptop?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:39:48 +0200, Timo Boettcher wrote: > Cool box. I am running Gentoo on a Pentium 75MHz (yes, thats about > half your clock) with 14MB ram (third of yours). I DID change the > original 262MB HDD for a 10GB one, though. Perhaps you should think > about this, too. You might want to find out if you could put any > additional Ram in that thing... If I had money for more memory or drive space, I'd have already hit the computer shows for a (slightly) better machine. :) I have to make this work without any upgrades. I do admit, 10GB would be *much* nicer than 2! However, I have had pretty good stuff installed on it before. > I installed my laptop with a hdd adaptor to get the notebooks hdd > working in my Athlon TB 1,2GHz. For maintaining it, I have an tar.gz > image of the notebook on my dual P3 (these thinks rule, don't they? > *g*), chroot in and rsync it over. That's a good trick... probably makes upgrades much faster! >> I seem to have read that it is possible to install Gentoo >> from binaries only, so can it be done without installing GCC? [...] > It is possible to get a Gentoo Base-system in 800MB (including GCC AND > Sources (that one was a server)). You might want to go really low with > your fs-blocksize (1kb or so) to minimize loss. That is a good idea! I could go even lower... I think DOS floppies use 512-byte sectors; that would be good if most of the files are small. A server running in 800MB? Yeah, without X and lots of user programs, I can see that! Hey, I could go really retro and *not* install X... use Emacs for everything... ;) >> with (hd1,0), it does not work. (The Knoppix floppy also does not work >> -- it says it cannot find any CD drives and drops me to a horrible >> shell.) > If you think a shell is horrible, are you sure you are right here? It's not that I think *a* shell is horrible (Bash rocks!), but *that* shell is! It doesn't even have "ls" or tab completion, so if you want to run something, you'd better already know where it is. :) Anyway, I think I will have another try this weekend. Maybe I could put QNX or something there if Gentoo doesn't work. ;) -- // Carl Hudkins :: Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: PGP 50238D9E // // "German beer is chemical-free / Germany's all right with me!" //--"Why Aye Man", Mark Knopfler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - obsolete packages?
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This morning I run 'emerge system' and had no problems with this. > > But, somewhere in the middle of this I noticed a message that I for > different reasons failed to capture. The message said something like: > > "With the installaiton of this new version of coreutils [was that it?] you > can delete the following packages from your system:" > > And there's where I messed it up. I *believe* it said to remove: > > - textutils > - fileutils > - sh-utils > > I'm not 100% sure. Can someone confirm? I found these two interesting lines in fileutils-4.1.11-r2.ebuild: DESCRIPTION="textutils, sh-utils and fileutils are replaced by coreutils" RDEPEND=">=sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r3" Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
