Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:41:14AM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I. -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/./Include -I/u sr/local/include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2/Include -I/home/andy/tmp/Python-2.2.2 -c /home/andy/t mp/Python-2.2.2/Modules/selectmodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o gcc -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.2/selectmodule.o -L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.2/se lect.so WARNING: removing select since importing it failed In fact *every single python module* has this error, which seems to install a python with no modules. So, I can hypothesis that the following happened: - The emerge -e recompiled some essential part of my system involving the development of dynamically loaded modules, and it did it wrongly (I am using ~x86 btw, so maybe I am asking for this?) - It then went on to recompile python with all its modules failing to import. - This python was installed, leaving me with no working portage. I now have to work out exactly what was installed that broke this. The thing is though, that as far as I can tell, gcc and binutils do seem to work. I really don't want to go messing with those especially without portage to configure them properly for gentoo. Does anyone have any more ideas? Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from there. If I end up having to reinstall the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare that sort of time right now. I have to have a whinge about this. Many people ask for help and then end it with saying, if you can't help, i'm gonna leave! To be perfectly honest, every time I see something like this, I get the inclination to not help the person at all. It is totally unrelated to the problem and therefore unnecessary. I could say a lot more but I'd just be repeating myself... Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing confirmation. I've read to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** My Goal in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using diff at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using diff as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using etc-update, that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in emerge --help config I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 FEATURES=sandbox ccache --- FEATURES=sandbox ccache autoaddcvs 51c51 USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES --- USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Only thing i can say is instead of cp new.cfg old.cfg rm old.cfg u could just mv old.cfg new.cfg Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing confirmation. I've read to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** My Goal in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using diff at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using diff as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using etc-update, that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in emerge --help config I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 FEATURES=sandbox ccache --- FEATURES=sandbox ccache autoaddcvs 51c51 USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES --- USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I've layed out what my goal is, what I've done so far, and am only needing confirmation. I've read to much info on in the Gentoo forums and am still perplexed.. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** My Goal in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using diff at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using diff as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using etc-update, that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in emerge --help config I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 FEATURES=sandbox ccache --- FEATURES=sandbox ccache autoaddcvs 51c51 USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES --- USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:12:50PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: Does anyone have any more ideas? Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ grep ' emerge.*of 109' /var/log/emerge.log 1063758884: emerge (1 of 109) sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708 to / 1063758912: emerge (2 of 109) sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 to / 1063758974: emerge (3 of 109) sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.0-r5 to / 1063759058: emerge (4 of 109) sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 to / 1063759530: emerge (5 of 109) sys-apps/sed-4.0.7 to / 1063759624: emerge (6 of 109) sys-libs/ncurses-5.3-r4 to / 1063760209: emerge (7 of 109) sys-apps/texinfo-4.6 to / 1063760354: emerge (8 of 109) sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 to / 1063760637: emerge (9 of 109) sys-apps/cronbase-0.2.1-r2 to / 1063760665: emerge (10 of 109) sys-apps/man-1.5m to / 1063760739: emerge (11 of 109) dev-java/java-config-0.2.8-r2 to / 1063760767: emerge (12 of 109) dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 to / 1063760913: emerge (13 of 109) sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 to / 1063761476: emerge (14 of 109) sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r1 to / 1063761518: emerge (15 of 109) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to / 1063761552: emerge (16 of 109) sys-apps/bzip2-1.0.2-r2 to / 1063761602: emerge (17 of 109) sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r4 to / 1063762060: emerge (18 of 109) sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r3 to / 1063762093: emerge (19 of 109) app-shells/bash-2.05b-r7 to / 1063762346: emerge (20 of 109) sys-libs/readline-4.3-r4 to / 1063762446: emerge (21 of 109) dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 to / 1063762520: emerge (22 of 109) dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r1 to / 1063763110: emerge (23 of 109) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / 1063763177: emerge (24 of 109) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to / 1063763655: emerge (25 of 109) dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 to / 1063765366: emerge (26 of 109) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / 1063766107: emerge (27 of 109) sys-apps/gawk-3.1.3 to / 1063766224: emerge (28 of 109) sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.19-r1 to / 1063766343: emerge (29 of 109) sys-devel/m4-1.4 to / 1063766381: emerge (30 of 109) sys-devel/autoconf-2.57-r1 to / 1063766410: emerge (31 of 109) sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r5 to / 1063766433: emerge (32 of 109) sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 to / 1063766442: emerge (33 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 to / 1063766452: emerge (34 of 109) sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r7 to / 1063766467: emerge (35 of 109) sys-devel/bison-1.875 to / 1063766565: emerge (36 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r1 to / Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. Shall I download the source for an earlier version of gcc and compile and install it within my home directory, then try to use it to compile python and see if it makes a difference? Alternatively it could be binutils? Really scared about leaving myself with no working gcc/binutils though. If I end up having to reinstall the OS I probably will not be putting gentoo back, as it took me 4 days to have it working exactly as I would like and I can't spare that sort of time right now. I have to have a whinge about this. Many people ask for help and then end it with saying, if you can't help, i'm gonna leave! Well, I didn't quite say that. I was just expressing my reasons for not wanting to completely reinstall, which I could see many people thinking would be the easiest option. To be perfectly honest, every time I see something like this, I get the inclination to not help the person at all. It is totally unrelated to the problem and therefore unnecessary. I could say a lot more but I'd just be repeating myself... This isn't really unrelated to my problem. If I had 4 days spare then I would probably reinstall. Also related is the fact that this is my desktop machine which I need to do my work on, and recently one of its (two) P3 700 CPUs died, so if I did start again I'd be recompiling everything with half the CPU power. I see what you're saying though. I agree that when you see people say things like if no one can help me then I'm going back to windows or something then you just think, go back to windows then! I just meant to show that I'm willing to try anything no matter how wacky in the hope of being able to recover from here without a total reinstall. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] post-it notes application?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 07:32:49AM +0200, Alberto Bert wrote: I would like to have a yellow post-it notes manager like knotes or goat, but I don't use gnome or KDE (WM fan.) Could you suggest me any program like those for wm or x, which don't need to start heavy processes? Try xpad. I think it's gtk2-based. Looks/works nice in WM for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 13:49, Joshua Banks wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** My Goal in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of ect-update. Well, the correct way is to use etc-update. There's also a utility called dispatch-conf which is meant to be better than etc-update but not sure how it works - check the forums on that. bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells This is essentially what etc-update first does. It checks other directories as well, by default defined in make.globals under CONFIG_PROTECT. Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) Personally, I like to see all the diffs before deciding what I want to keep from either file. I usually then just use nano on the new file to merge my changes to the old file. At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals That's okay, but this is better: bash-2.05b# mv ._cfg_make.globals make.globals I usually do this for (after editing) each file I'm interested in and then use etc-update's -5 to move the rest. I have been bitten slightly a couple of times when a gui program has changed a config file that I wasn't aware of. To be safe, don't automatically overwrite a file unless you know what it is. Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P As I said before, portage just scans for ._cfg???_* files, so they wont show up as needing updating after deleting them. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:30:14PM -0700, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. etc-update already allows you to see the differences and manually sort them out line by line or (my preference) in vimdiff mode. Only crazy people use the option for etc-update to automatically fix the files, and they end up with a broken system. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. Why? Sure if you want to you can take all those files it says are changed and look at both versions with diff or vimdiff or whatever.. but etc-update calls these progams for you anyway. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** etc-update *is* the better way. :) At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Yes, if you have never edited a config file and now you have to merge in new changes then usually what you want to do is just take the update. And etc-update has an option for doing this. Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Removing the ._cfg file is enough to make portage forget about it, I think. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
Le 09/17/03 Jayson Garrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote: * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello all, Hello Jean, I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? As the first person that replied to this message stated it really depends on what you want to do; A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill. Phil Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable. Jayson Garrell OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not make it work This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO but any other advice will be welcome Thx all, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier 3 Cours Victor Hugo, 13980 Alleins France Tel: 04 90 59 33 94Port: 06 09 17 35 87 mèl: jm.bornier*at*free.fr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] where to find jar program?
hi! i tried to update the system, but doing a emerge -u system stops at the package sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 with an error... it says it needs a jar program, but does not find it in $PATH... so where do i find this program? how do i find out which package i should merge to get this? qpkg -f works only for installed packages. is there a tool that can search also in NOT installed packages? why isn`t jar automatically merged as it seems that db depends on it? is this a bug? can someone help me? here is the output of the error: -- checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking SOSUFFIX from libtool... so checking for javac... no checking for gcj... gcj -C checking if gcj -C works... yes checking for jar... no configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH !!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 73, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) -- thanks, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:38, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:12:50PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:58, Andy Smith wrote: Does anyone have any more ideas? Check /var/log/emerge.log and post all the packages that were upgraded since the last time you used portage without problems. We can then go on from there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]$ grep ' emerge.*of 109' /var/log/emerge.log 1063758884: emerge (1 of 109) sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708 to / 1063758912: emerge (2 of 109) sys-libs/db-1.85-r1 to / 1063758974: emerge (3 of 109) sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.0-r5 to / 1063759058: emerge (4 of 109) sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1 to / 1063759530: emerge (5 of 109) sys-apps/sed-4.0.7 to / 1063759624: emerge (6 of 109) sys-libs/ncurses-5.3-r4 to / 1063760209: emerge (7 of 109) sys-apps/texinfo-4.6 to / 1063760354: emerge (8 of 109) sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 to / 1063760637: emerge (9 of 109) sys-apps/cronbase-0.2.1-r2 to / 1063760665: emerge (10 of 109) sys-apps/man-1.5m to / 1063760739: emerge (11 of 109) dev-java/java-config-0.2.8-r2 to / 1063760767: emerge (12 of 109) dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 to / 1063760913: emerge (13 of 109) sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 to / 1063761476: emerge (14 of 109) sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r1 to / 1063761518: emerge (15 of 109) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to / 1063761552: emerge (16 of 109) sys-apps/bzip2-1.0.2-r2 to / 1063761602: emerge (17 of 109) sys-apps/coreutils-5.0-r4 to / 1063762060: emerge (18 of 109) sys-apps/debianutils-1.16.7-r3 to / 1063762093: emerge (19 of 109) app-shells/bash-2.05b-r7 to / 1063762346: emerge (20 of 109) sys-libs/readline-4.3-r4 to / 1063762446: emerge (21 of 109) dev-libs/expat-1.95.6-r1 to / 1063762520: emerge (22 of 109) dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r1 to / 1063763110: emerge (23 of 109) sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r4 to / 1063763177: emerge (24 of 109) sys-devel/libperl-5.8.0 to / 1063763655: emerge (25 of 109) dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 to / 1063765366: emerge (26 of 109) sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r3 to / 1063766107: emerge (27 of 109) sys-apps/gawk-3.1.3 to / 1063766224: emerge (28 of 109) sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.19-r1 to / 1063766343: emerge (29 of 109) sys-devel/m4-1.4 to / 1063766381: emerge (30 of 109) sys-devel/autoconf-2.57-r1 to / 1063766410: emerge (31 of 109) sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a-r5 to / 1063766433: emerge (32 of 109) sys-apps/miscfiles-1.3-r1 to / 1063766442: emerge (33 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.3-r1 to / 1063766452: emerge (34 of 109) sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r7 to / 1063766467: emerge (35 of 109) sys-devel/bison-1.875 to / 1063766565: emerge (36 of 109) sys-devel/gcc-3.3.1-r1 to / There was nothing interesting in packages 37 - 109? Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. gcc-3.3.1-r2 has some bugs. Check on bugzilla. There's also been a bit of mention of gentoo-dev. Shall I download the source for an earlier version of gcc and compile and install it within my home directory, then try to use it to compile python and see if it makes a difference? The only problem then is if your current (buggy) gcc will successfully compile the older version or not. Alternatively it could be binutils? Really scared about leaving myself with no working gcc/binutils though. binutils is okay. I'm runing the latest ~x86 version and have had no problems. Have almost finished recompiling world with it - recompiling for another reason though. I just meant to show that I'm willing to try anything no matter how wacky in the hope of being able to recover from here without a total reinstall. That I can respect. Do you have a GRP cd? Worst comes to worst you could always just untar the .tbz2 packages you need, fix up your /var/db/pkg and /var/cache/edb/virtuals and then upgrade to what is safe (not gcc331-r2 at this stage ;-) Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Thanks for the replies everyone. All the suggestions have helped. JBanks --- Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:30:14PM -0700, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight I'm not asking for you to hold my hand. I just need someone to confirm whether or not I'm doing this correctly. It seems that any time there's questions about etc-update everyone seems to be hush-hush. I don't understand what you're trying to achieve. etc-update already allows you to see the differences and manually sort them out line by line or (my preference) in vimdiff mode. Only crazy people use the option for etc-update to automatically fix the files, and they end up with a broken system. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. Why? Sure if you want to you can take all those files it says are changed and look at both versions with diff or vimdiff or whatever.. but etc-update calls these progams for you anyway. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** etc-update *is* the better way. :) At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Yes, if you have never edited a config file and now you have to merge in new changes then usually what you want to do is just take the update. And etc-update has an option for doing this. Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made the changes manually instead of using etc-update? Again, correct my thinking of this where you see fit...if it fits.. :P Removing the ._cfg file is enough to make portage forget about it, I think. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
Hello to you all, I am relatively new to the list so please point me to the good location if this question has already been asked (according to the list archives I found on http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user%40gentoo.org/, it hasn't) I am very interested about installing gentoo on my system : I am can't wait for a distro manager to update his rpms for a new software to be available on ly machine. I always end up downloading the sources and then breaking the package management system. Portage seems very interesting for me in that way. I also like the fact that it is similar to the process of LFS (which is for me to much of a hassle because of the lack of automation and dependancy checking). The fact is that I only have an rtc connection at home. While I cannot afford to install gentoo that way, I have access to a broadband connection available at my school. My questions are 1.Is it possible to do some kind of 'emerge bootstrap --pretend' for the _WHOLE_ gentoo installation ? I'd like to be able to download all the sources needed at school, burn them to a few CD's and then let my isolated machine compile during a few days. I would then upgrade my system the usual way with my rtc connection (I can bear up to around 10-20megs sources dl). 2. Could someone provide some figures about compilation time to compare with my machine? I have a 566Mhz Celeron but a bunch of RAM (312Mb) so I would be interested in the time taken to perform such compilation. How about the size of the sources as well (multimedia desktop Linux using GNOME). 3.Short (and last) one: are the ebuilds introducing any dependancy on the availability of new software (e.g. are the ebuilds of one version (eg GNOME2.2) usable for another one (GNOME2.4))? Thank you very much for your consideration, Regards, Vincent -- Vincent Rubiolo 4th Year Student At The School Of Engineering Ecole des Mines de Nantes (France) http://www.emn.fr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
Hi,
You could use GRP which as far as i understand it is pre compiled binaries
to get your system up and running then use a emerge -uf world at school to
fetch the packages you require and then do a emerge -u world at home and let
it compile over night ? this might ease your troubles with the rtc
connection at home. As for compiling times thats all dependant on many
things and as such i dont think anyone would be able to give you an accurate
figure or more than a guesstimation.
Also dont forget to read the gentoo desktop howto at :
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml
as well as the gentoo install howto :
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml
Also dont forget to get the CD with GRP on :)
{P}
- Original Message -
From: Vincent Rubiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:59 AM
Subject: [gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
| Hello to you all,
|
| I am relatively new to the list so please point me to the good location if
this
| question has already been asked (according to the list archives I found on
| http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user%40gentoo.org/, it hasn't)
|
| I am very interested about installing gentoo on my system : I am can't
wait for
| a distro manager to update his rpms for a new software to be available on
ly
| machine. I always end up downloading the sources and then breaking the
package
| management system. Portage seems very interesting for me in that way. I
also
| like the fact that it is similar to the process of LFS (which is for me to
much
| of a hassle because of the lack of automation and dependancy checking).
|
| The fact is that I only have an rtc connection at home. While I cannot
afford to
| install gentoo that way, I have access to a broadband connection available
at my
| school.
|
| My questions are
| 1.Is it possible to do some kind of 'emerge bootstrap --pretend' for the
_WHOLE_
| gentoo installation ?
| I'd like to be able to download all the sources needed at school, burn
them to a
| few CD's and then let my isolated machine compile during a few days. I
would
| then upgrade my system the usual way with my rtc connection (I can bear up
to
| around 10-20megs sources dl).
|
| 2. Could someone provide some figures about compilation time to compare
with my
| machine? I have a 566Mhz Celeron but a bunch of RAM (312Mb) so I would be
| interested in the time taken to perform such compilation. How about the
size of
| the sources as well (multimedia desktop Linux using GNOME).
|
| 3.Short (and last) one: are the ebuilds introducing any dependancy on the
| availability of new software (e.g. are the ebuilds of one version (eg
GNOME2.2)
| usable for another one (GNOME2.4))?
|
| Thank you very much for your consideration,
|
| Regards,
|
| Vincent
|
|
| --
| Vincent Rubiolo
| 4th Year Student At The School Of Engineering
| Ecole des Mines de Nantes (France)
| http://www.emn.fr
|
|
| --
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[gentoo-user] trouble with xerces-2.5.0
Hi, everybody. I can't emerge -u world since the emerge process returns an Error while compiling Xerces-2.5.0. I have pasted the errormessage into that email beneath. I also obtained the sources and tried to compile them myself and this also failed. Any suggestion on how to solve this? Thanx in advance, momesana. p.s xerces is the name of an ancient persian king (486 to 465 BC -- read this for a lil' more details. http://www.ub2b.com/Xerxes.html) and since I am a persian myself it is a must for me to get xerces running. ;-) -- emerge errormessage -- bash-2.05b# emerge -u world Calculating world dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) dev-java/xerces-2.5.0 to / md5 src_uri ;-) Xerces-J-src.2.5.0.tar.gz md5 src_uri ;-) Xerces-J-tools.2.5.0.tar.gz Unpacking source... Unpacking Xerces-J-src.2.5.0.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work Unpacking Xerces-J-tools.2.5.0.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work Source unpacked. Xerces-Java Build System Building with classpath /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/lib/tools.jar:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/l ib/classes.zip:./tools/ant.jar:./tools/xml-apis.jar:./tools/xercesImpl.jar:./tools/bin/xj avac.jar Starting Ant... Buildfile: build.xml init: [echo] Xerces-J 2.5.0 [1999-2003] --- prepare: [mkdir] Created dir: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build prepare-common: [mkdir] Created dir: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/src [mkdir] Created dir: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/classes [mkdir] Created dir: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/classes/ME TA-INF [mkdir] Created dir: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/classes/ME TA-INF/services [copy] Copying 1 file to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/class es/META-INF/services [copy] Copying 1 file to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/class es/META-INF/services [copy] Copying 1 file to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/class es/META-INF/services prepare-src: [copy] Copying 1 file to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/class es/META-INF/services [copy] Copying 604 files to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/sr c [unzip] Expanding: /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/tools/xml-apis--sr c.zip into /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/src compile: [copy] Copying 9 files to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/clas ses [xjavac] Compiling 617 source files to /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0 /build/classes [xjavac] /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/src/org/apache/html/dom /HTMLIFrameElementImpl.java:69: org.apache.html.dom.HTMLIFrameElementImpl should be decla red abstract; it does not define getContentDocument() in org.apache.html.dom.HTMLIFrameEl ementImpl [xjavac] public class HTMLIFrameElementImpl [xjavac]^ [xjavac] /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/src/org/apache/html/dom /HTMLObjectElementImpl.java:69: org.apache.html.dom.HTMLObjectElementImpl should be decla red abstract; it does not define getContentDocument() in org.apache.html.dom.HTMLObjectEl ementImpl [xjavac] public class HTMLObjectElementImpl [xjavac]^ [xjavac] /var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build/src/org/apache/html/dom /HTMLFrameElementImpl.java:69: org.apache.html.dom.HTMLFrameElementImpl should be declare d abstract; it does not define getContentDocument() in org.apache.html.dom.HTMLFrameEleme ntImpl [xjavac] public class HTMLFrameElementImpl [xjavac]^ [xjavac] Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API. [xjavac] Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details. [xjavac] 3 errors BUILD FAILED file:/var/tmp/portage/xerces-2.5.0/work/xerces-2_5_0/build.xml:232: Compile failed; see t he compiler error output for details. Total time: 12 seconds !!! ERROR: dev-java/xerces-2.5.0 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 30, Exitcode 1 !!! Compile failed. --- Manual compile attempt with the souces --- momesana[xerces-2_5_0]$./build.sh jar Xerces-Java Build System Building with classpath /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/lib/tools.jar:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/lib/classes.zip:./tools/ant.jar:./tools/xml-apis.jar:./tools/xercesImpl.jar:./tools/bin/xjavac.jar Starting Ant... Buildfile: build.xml init: [echo]
[gentoo-user] Re: Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Any idea? Yep: It's yet another GCC 3.3.1-r2 issue. Downgraded to GCC 3.3.1-r1, remerged OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 and it works again. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Ok... So do I goto the list when I'm unsure about differences in files that I'm unsure of. Some of them are common sense type differences but others I'm unsure of like dispatch-conf.conf The new file doesn't have the header at the beginning and there are all sorts of changes that are beyond me at this point. Example of diff's in dispatch-conf.conf: Beginning of differences between /etc/dispatch-conf.conf and /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf --- /etc/dispatch-conf.conf 2003-07-26 13:39:27.0 -0700 +++ /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf 2003-09-16 05:52:02.0 -0700 @@ -1,10 +1,14 @@ # # dispatch-conf.conf -# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/dispatch-conf.conf,v 1.3 2003/03/22 14:24:38 carpaski Exp $ +# # Directory to archive replaced configs archive-dir=/etc/config-archive +# Use rcs for storing files in the archive directory? +# (yes or no) +use-rcs=no + # Diff for display diff=diff -Nau %s %s @@ -17,4 +21,8 @@ # Automerge files comprising only whitespace and/or comments # (yes or no) -replace-wscomments=yes +replace-wscomments=no + +# Automerge files that the user hasn't modified +# (yes or no) +replace-unmodified=no End of differences between /etc/dispatch-conf.conf and /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf ** How do I go about basing my decision now? Thanks, Jbanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to find jar program?
Martin, You need a java package and java-config installed, and you need to execute java-config to set the system java virtual machine. Regards, Jose PS: By the way, I've seen this question a dozen times, shouldn't this be included in a FAQ or something? martin wrote: hi! i tried to update the system, but doing a emerge -u system stops at the package sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 with an error... it says it needs a jar program, but does not find it in $PATH... so where do i find this program? how do i find out which package i should merge to get this? qpkg -f works only for installed packages. is there a tool that can search also in NOT installed packages? why isn`t jar automatically merged as it seems that db depends on it? is this a bug? can someone help me? here is the output of the error: -- checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking SOSUFFIX from libtool... so checking for javac... no checking for gcj... gcj -C checking if gcj -C works... yes checking for jar... no configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH !!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 73, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) -- thanks, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: trouble with xerces-2.5.0
momesana wrote: Hi, everybody. I can't emerge -u world since the emerge process returns an Error while compiling Xerces-2.5.0. I have pasted the errormessage into that email beneath. I also obtained the sources and tried to compile them myself and this also failed. Any suggestion on how to solve this? ... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27241 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:52, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. gcc-3.3.1-r2 has some bugs. Check on bugzilla. There's also been a bit of mention of gentoo-dev. It's also mentioned in the forums. Check this thread for downloading a working version: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803 Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..[Solved]
Feel pretty silly now :p etc-update Was staring me in the face the whole time begging me to use it...CORRECTLY...that is.. :D JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage broken
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 05:44:46PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:52, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 15:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hmm. So it's quite likely that gcc is the culprit here. Yet that newly installed gcc does seem to work; I can compile things. gcc-3.3.1-r2 has some bugs. Check on bugzilla. There's also been a bit of mention of gentoo-dev. It's also mentioned in the forums. Check this thread for downloading a working version: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803 Jason, you're a life saver, thanks! I followed the suggested workaround of moving libgcc_s.a in http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=84803postdays=0postorder=ascstart=25sid=28c4e3c9a33ac8d51fc7a94ce5e6a3c1 - this made my gcc work. I then manually unpacked python and installed it, and it worked. Then the rescue archive of portage allowed me to get a working portage. I am now in the process of merging a working version of gcc, then python, and then I guess I should do my whole system. In light of this unfortunate incident, is there any easy way to choose ebuilds from ~x86 in general, but from x86 for some specific ebuilds that should never be allowed to break? I am thinking binutils, gcc, python, portage for example. I'm happy for my web browsers, irc clients and what not to be bleeding edge but unstable, but it kind of ruins my day when I merge a broken gcc that recompiles half my system and breaks it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Updating /etc/dispatch-conf.conf ??
When I'm merging diff's between; 1) /etc/dispatch-conf.conf (and) /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf has no HEADER. Anal question. But should I attatch the header of the old file onto the new one when merging the diff's? Don't all files need to have a header attatched to them? Would this be a bug? Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] caller number and fax monitoring?
does anyone know about a tool for monitoring my isdn (normal voice calls) and/or isdn fax? at the moment i run an answering machine and a fax with my fritz!pci (isdn card) and it works quite well. i receive and send faxes and also the answering machine works well. but my problem is to notify that a call or fax came in. for the answering machine i got a simple mailscript which sends me periodically a mail with caller numbers (no matter if it just ringed or a message was recorded). thats a very good solution for me, i see every number... even if it only ringed. but i dont know how to notify about an incoming fax. i use c2faxrecv and the faxes come in, but i have to look manually if there is any in my spool dir. so i often dont recognize that theres a fax, because i dont always remember ah, you gotta look for faxes. with the answering machine there is a lill problem too: it would be nice if i could see the calling number WHILE it is ringing. my only way is to look into the logfile or something to see which number it is. but this takes too long, so this is no thing to use while its running. better would be an added feature like popping up a dialog box with the calling number, or flashing an OSD with the number or something... does there exist anything like that? arne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not make it work This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO but any other advice will be welcome Thx all, At first you have to make network connection between PCs to work, but you still didn't say if it works or not. So, can you ping to other PC? noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Current XSESSION entry for KDE?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, currently updating my complete Gentoo installation on the LapTop I wonder if it still correct to have XSESSION=kde-3.1 in my /etc/rc.conf. Must I change this into kde-3.2 now or is 3.2 not there already? Karl-Heinz - -- Karl-Heinz Zimmer, Senior Software Engineer, Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken, 1880 - 1956 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/aDGPCcaVnbvggDcRAiyuAKDSaZHEglCP2MhZOvpzAc7Nz81E7QCg34/t Xa/7SR3+CvFnrBQeKiZHej4= =RUWa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Only one KDE app?
On Saturday 06 September 2003 05.28, Norberto Bensa wrote: Is there a way to install only one KDE app? I need kweather, and only kweather from kdetoys. Yes, you can use the DO_NOT_COMPILE environment variable. Look at http://docs.kde.org for the contents of the kdetoys package and then do: export DO_NOT_COMPILE=prog1 prog2 prog3 emerge kdetoys Where prog1, prog2 and so on are the programs you don't want. Search the forums for DO_NOT_COMPILE if you want more information. //Andreas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
Jean, Remember that you HAVE to use a crossover cable, as someone mentioned previuosly. If you make a direct connection from network card to network card without a hub, a normal network cable won't do the trick. Regards Jose Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Le 09/17/03 Jayson Garrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit notamment: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:12, Phil Jackson wrote: * Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello all, Hello Jean, I want to make a network with two gentoo machines at home, I don't know what is needed.Could someone point me to some HOWTO? As the first person that replied to this message stated it really depends on what you want to do; A cheap and easy solution might just be two Nics with 10BaseT connecability some 10BaseT cable and a simple hub. If there is only ever going to be two boxes on the lan anything more might be overkill. Phil Or forget the overhead of the hub and use a crossover cable. Jayson Garrell OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not make it work This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO but any other advice will be welcome Thx all,
Re: [gentoo-user] small network
On 17 Sep 2003, at 7:43 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: OK I will be more specific: I just want to transfer files from my pc to my laptop, or make backups of one on the other. I have tried to do that with a cable (rj45 as it's called in France) connecting them, but then I could figure out what to do. There is some utility in KDE but I could not make it work This is why I believe I need a howto; I am currently reading the NET-HOWTO but any other advice will be welcome You probably want to install Samba (SMB), then. This is an implementation of Microsoft filesharing for Linux, and will allow you to drag drop files on your PC to from your Linux box; I would imagine that KDE / Gnome also allow drag drop of files on SMB shares, or you can mount Windows shares at the command-line on your Linux box. First, as someone else has pointed out, you need to ensure that the two machines are connected via the RJ45 cable (as it's also called elsewhere). You need to allocate each machine a different IP address on the same subnet - something like 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.6, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 - then `ping` between them. When I first started networking I found Helmig's HOWTO for Windows useful: http://wown.com/ For configuring Samba: http://tinyurl.com/nnpz HTH, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT networking question
On 6 Sep 2003, at 1:52 am, Spider wrote: begin quote On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Marshal Newrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Ernie Schroder wrote: As far as measuring bandwidth, there's a program called 'bing' (which is not in portage) which will determine the available bandwidth between twopoints. I'm sure there's many good programs in net-analyzer as well which do things like that. Lets play some homebrew stuff here: on the server: dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=100 nc -l -p testfile; on the client: time nc server /dev/null ; Repeat three or four times for good measure. Sorry for replying to this so late - I seem to have some latency with my POP3 server this has only just come through. But I don't seem to have `nc` installed. What is it, please, and what package might I find it in..? Thanks, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge sync failed ?!
how to solve this !? # emerge sync starting rsync with rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage... rsync: failed to connect to rsync.gentoo.org: Invalid argument rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(97) Updating Portage cache... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fluxbox Vs. Openbox
Hey all, I've been a fluxbox fan for an awfully long time now. For me it's always been the perfect blend of speed, simplictiy and prettiness. I notice now that there's another blackbox-esque window manager: OpenBox. Can someone with experience with both tell me what the major differences are? What do people prefer, fluxbox or openbox? OpenBox doesn't have tabbed windows, but I pretty much never use that feature anyway. What does OpenBox offer me that fluxbox doesn't? Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox Vs. Openbox
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:37:49PM +1200, Tom Eastman wrote: I notice now that there's another blackbox-esque window manager: OpenBox. Can someone with experience with both tell me what the major differences are? What do people prefer, fluxbox or openbox? OpenBox doesn't have tabbed windows, but I pretty much never use that feature anyway. What does OpenBox offer me that fluxbox doesn't? The one thing that made me choose openbox over fluxbox some time ago, was that openbox has window to window snapping, something fluxbox does not have (in the stable version). However when fluxbox 1.0 is released, I'm going to give it another try, as it seems to have pulled quite far away from openbox featurewise. /Klaus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage write access?
Hello, I found that some ebuilds are very wrong. I.E. the omniORB-4.0.0.ebuild, the important mistake is, that there is the '|| die' missing after 'emake'. So people think, OmniORB gets installed, but actually it doesn't get installed. I would like to have write access for this ebuild to create a -r1 ebuild, to let the people get ominORB updatet, so that omniORB gets really installed. Where can I ask for that? I know, I can send bug reports and so on, but I think, there aren't enaugh people with write access to the portage, thats the reason, that the bugs take so long to get into the portage. Martin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
You have to add it to the menu using the Menu editor. On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:57:17 -0700 Kevin Miller, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not like Konqueror. Kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mail server migration...
thanx alot ... i didn't know I have to drink vine,etc.. at the end of the procedure, but U say so, then I have to do the recipie :) as explained, otherwise something can go wrong ... There have to be some .ebuild for this.. :), so we can update it often.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Linux profession certificate
Hi all folks, Linux Professional Institute is an authority issuing examination certificate on achievement of Linux standard. Are there other authorities in this respect? How about their ranking on World recognition and level. Thanks B.R. Stephen Liu To Get Your Own iCareHK.com Email Address? Go To www.iCareHK.com. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Well, I do it by using my editor (jstar) to show both files - new on top, old on bottom. I then go through and see what is new and then modify one of the files. For example, with make.conf I keep my old and move stuff from the new one to the old. However, with the last baselayout /etc/services needed updating. I had some local services registered so I simply updated the new one and let etc-update merge it. You can also run diff old new | more to see what and how many changes there are. An automated updater would be nice but would probably introduce more problems than it would fix as it destroyed files. One thing I haven't figured out is why files like /etc/fstab and /etc/hosts are included in the updates. After all they are almost always updated by people and you definitely DO NOT want to update them with a new merge! On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just fishing here..+ acouple of questions. ** My Goal in this posting: Is to learn how-to correctly manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly, I'm unsure of so far. Being new I want to take the time to manually diff each file to see what the differences are of which I know how to do,(using diff at its most basic level that-is) and is good practice for me to get used to using diff as well as looking at the contents of these files to be more familiar with my Gentoo surroundings/environment. I figure, if I know how to manually update the needed files, VERSUS using etc-update, that this will make my Gentoo experience that much more fullfilling/enlightened, so to say.. Please correct my thinking where you see fit. :P So with that being said, this is where I'm at so far: *** I ran, bash-2.05b# emerge -uD system After this runs for a few hours, (dialup,:P,), I get back: * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 56 info files. * IMPORTANT: 25 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. After looking at the info in emerge --help config I run, bash-2.05b# find /etc -iname '._cfg_*' /etc/._cfg_inputrc /etc/._cfg_rc.conf /etc/._cfg_make.conf /etc/._cfg_make.globals /etc/._cfg_DIR_COLORS /etc/conf.d/._cfg_net /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot /etc/._cfg_services /etc/._cfg_fstab /etc/._cfg_group /etc/._cfg_hosts /etc/._cfg_issue /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_shells ** Now, this is where my questions come in. Again, My Goal, to manually update the files without the use of ect-update. How to do this correctly I'm unsure of and want confirmation of, please. ** At this point, I'm just manually diffing each file, one by one. (Any suggestions on using diff and cp in a better way than I'm using will be helpful appreciated as well.) ** For example: bash-2.05b# diff make.globals ._cfg_make.globals 3c3 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.48 2003/07/17 04:46:52 carpaski Exp $ --- # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.globals,v 1.49 2003/08/21 01:01:26 carpaski Exp $ 44c44 FEATURES=sandbox ccache --- FEATURES=sandbox ccache autoaddcvs 51c51 USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES --- USE_EXPAND=VIDEO_CARDS INPUT_DEVICES LINGUAS At this point, (1)I know logically that I've never messed with this file and, (2)its obvious that I want the new file in replace of the old one. Not only is it obvious but I was told so: Quote: * NOTICE: PLEASE *REPLACE* your make.globals. All user changes to variables * in make.globals should be placed in make.conf. DO NOT MODIFY make.globals. * Feature additions are noted in help and make.conf descriptions. Update * them using 'etc-update' please. Maintaining current configs for portage * and other system packages is fairly important for the continued health * of your system. End Quote: So would the correct thing to do in this (Specific) case, being inside the /etc directory, too: 1) bash-2.05b# cp ._cfg_make.globals make.globals 2) bash-2.05b# rm ._cfg_make.globals Now my other question is: Assuming that this were the only file that had differences (hypothectically speaking), WHAT, if anything do I need to do to next to let Gentoo know I've made
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
--- brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I do it by using my editor (jstar) to show both files - new on top, old on bottom. I then go through and see what is new and then modify one of the files. For example, with make.conf I keep my old and move stuff from the new one to the old. However, with the last baselayout /etc/services needed updating. I had some local services registered so I simply updated the new one and let etc-update merge it. You can also run diff old new | more to see what and how many changes there are. An automated updater would be nice but would probably introduce more problems than it would fix as it destroyed files. One thing I haven't figured out is why files like /etc/fstab and /etc/hosts are included in the updates. After all they are almost always updated by people and you definitely DO NOT want to update them with a new merge! Thanks for the response Brett. All the info that I can get is helpfull. JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge from LiveCD
I got the Gentoo 1.4 disks via snail mail, and installed as nearly by the book as I could. I only have dialup ppp, so installing much of the system from CD saves both time and telkom cost. The emerge system works beautifully if I start the ppp. But the instructions say that you should be able to install from the CDs, or from files copied from the CDs. The example they give is: # USE='bindist emerge -k xfree But I can't get this to work. I've looked at man page, portage manual, etc, but I must be missing something. Here's actual console output: asterix:packages ls xfree* xfree-4.3.0-r2.tbz2 asterix:packages export PKGDIR=$PWD asterix:packages echo $PKGDIR /usr/portage/packages asterix:packages USE=bindist emerge -K xfree Calculating dependencies !!! There are no packages available to satisfy: xfree !!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild. !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct. asterix:packages USE=bindist emerge -K xfree-4.3.0-r2.tbz2 Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 to / !!! CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, aborting... asterix:packages I've googled for CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, to no avail. Can you gentoo boffins direct me? TIA Bob Barry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Exactly. I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab). Now I throw away new versions of /etc/fstab, that may include important comments or even important definitions such as for devfs or sysfs. I used to merge using Emacs ediff, but found it to quite cumbersome to page through long configuration files and deciding what to keep and what to merge. I guess the above is true for several other files. Any file that is hard/dangerous to merge automatically should NOT be in portage, but provided as an example or template instead. In some cases one could support optional configuration files that are read if they exist (if [ -f /etc/blah.local ]; then source /etc/blah.local; ...). My two Eurocents. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Unless it's a file that I edit and change I let etc-update handle it. I'm not familiar with this file but if you haven't messed with it or a program you use hasn't change it then give it to etc-update. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 01:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... So do I goto the list when I'm unsure about differences in files that I'm unsure of. Some of them are common sense type differences but others I'm unsure of like dispatch-conf.conf The new file doesn't have the header at the beginning and there are all sorts of changes that are beyond me at this point. Example of diff's in dispatch-conf.conf: Beginning of differences between /etc/dispatch-conf.conf and /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf --- /etc/dispatch-conf.conf 2003-07-26 13:39:27.0 -0700 +++ /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf 2003-09-16 05:52:02.0 -0700 @@ -1,10 +1,14 @@ # # dispatch-conf.conf -# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/dispatch-conf.conf,v 1.3 2003/03/22 14:24:38 carpaski Exp $ +# # Directory to archive replaced configs archive-dir=/etc/config-archive +# Use rcs for storing files in the archive directory? +# (yes or no) +use-rcs=no + # Diff for display diff=diff -Nau %s %s @@ -17,4 +21,8 @@ # Automerge files comprising only whitespace and/or comments # (yes or no) -replace-wscomments=yes +replace-wscomments=no + +# Automerge files that the user hasn't modified +# (yes or no) +replace-unmodified=no End of differences between /etc/dispatch-conf.conf and /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf ** How do I go about basing my decision now? Thanks, Jbanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] private rsync mirror ?
You could just run FTP on your server, and update the distfiles on it (by rsync or FTP) whenever necessary, and set all the other machines to use it as a mirror (making it the first entry in the GENTOO_MIRRORS line in make.conf). Not really the answer you're looking for though. Can't blame me for trying *noob* :) Ross On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:04, raptor wrote: hi, I read the etiquete page about becoming portage-rsync mirror I'm interested in making local portage mirror for my internal machines, they grow constantly :). I'm interested in the tehnical part of the stuff.. I'm not intending to sync even every day, but probably every couple of days or week... So that all my internal servers are updating from one place... what I need : 1. how to setup - the server .. 2. how to make it so that it sync from one or more rsync-mirrors. Rotate them or fallback from one to the next.. 3. emerge sync is doing rsync isn't it ? So that if I set my box in the make.conf it will first contact it ?! any links or guides are welcome.. tia PS. Does the same apply to distfile-mirror.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage write access?
On 09/17/03 Martin Klaffenboeck wrote: Hello, I found that some ebuilds are very wrong. I.E. the omniORB-4.0.0.ebuild, the important mistake is, that there is the '|| die' missing after 'emake'. So people think, OmniORB gets installed, but actually it doesn't get installed. hmm, actually emake itself has a || die statement, so this change shouldn't be necessary (but it's policy, so it should be changed). I would like to have write access for this ebuild to create a -r1 ebuild, to let the people get ominORB updatet, so that omniORB gets really installed. Submit a fixed ebuild on bugs.gentoo.org , maybe with a little explanation of the error. Such a trivial fix should be commited in less than 24 hours. Where can I ask for that? I know, I can send bug reports and so on, but I think, there aren't enaugh people with write access to the portage, thats the reason, that There are currently ~150-200 people with write access to cvs and that's already more than the cvs server can handle. For obvious reasons we can't give non-developers write access to the tree, after all we need some credibility and QA. the bugs take so long to get into the portage. I hope they never get into portage ;-) Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
LOL.. Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. Now I know I'm new to this, but this seems a little ridiculous. The only files that I'm familiar with are the ones that I touched durning the initial install. Out of 25 files I was only able to figure out how to diff 10 of them. And hopefully I did these correctly. The rest I had know clue what to do with because it looked like code differences. I wasn't sure what to do so I Ignored all of these below. What the heck should I do with these files? How does everyone else deal with this? Obviously I want to make sure that I have latest and greatest but I how do I tell without being a computer programmer or a shell programmer. 1) /etc/dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf 2) /etc/issue /etc/._cfg_issue 3) /etc/init.d/bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc 4) /etc/init.d/checkfs /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkfs 5) /etc/init.d/checkroot /etc/init.d/._cfg_checkroot 6) /etc/init.d/clock /etc/init.d/._cfg_clock 7) /etc/init.d/consolefont /etc/init.d/._cfg_consolefont 8) /etc/init.d/domainname /etc/init.d/._cfg_domainname 9) /etc/init.d/halt.sh /etc/init.d/._cfg_halt.sh 10) /etc/init.d/hdparm /etc/init.d/._cfg_hdparm 11) /etc/init.d/keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps 12) /etc/init.d/modules /etc/init.d/._cfg_modules 13) /etc/init.d/net.eth0 /etc/init.d/._cfg_net.eth0 14) /etc/init.d/serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial Uhhhhmmm Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating /etc/dispatch-conf.conf ??
No not all have headers. They are used for tracking versions. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I'm merging diff's between; 1) /etc/dispatch-conf.conf (and) /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf has no HEADER. Anal question. But should I attatch the header of the old file onto the new one when merging the diff's? Don't all files need to have a header attatched to them? Would this be a bug? Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
You're welcome! On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I do it by using my editor (jstar) to show both files - new on top, old on bottom. I then go through and After all they are almost always updated by people and you definitely DO NOT want to update them with a new merge! Thanks for the response Brett. All the info that I can get is helpfull. JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
If you blindly say update it then etc-update sure will mess it up. Every update that etc-update has wanted to do has wanted to replace my /dev/... with /dev/BOOT and take out my stuff and that would sure hose the system. Other than running it through an editor manually I don't know of anyway to let etc-update do it. I suppose you could try an interactive update but for files like fstab I'll do it by hadn. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:11:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
My rule of thumb - if I haven't touched it myself then I turn etc-update loose. Usually it's hosts, make.conf, fstab and files that you have to edit and setup that I do manually. Most of the files below you can let etc-update have it's way. I don't know about dispatch-conf. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL.. Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. Now I know I'm new to this, but this seems a little ridiculous. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. Now I know I'm new to this, but this seems a little ridiculous. I agree. The only files that I'm familiar with are the ones that I touched durning the initial install. I guess that might be an answer. If etc-update can check (md5, or otherwise) that the file has not been changed since the last update, it can suggest to update all those files in one go. That will leave you with just the files that might require human judgement. I can't think of an example where you would not want to update a configuration file that you did not change yourself. (Oops, that is three negatives in one sentence...) Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage write access?
Am 2003.09.17 14:26 schrieb(en) Marius Mauch: On 09/17/03 Martin Klaffenboeck wrote: Hello, I found that some ebuilds are very wrong. I.E. the omniORB-4.0.0.ebuild, the important mistake is, that there is the '|| die' missing after 'emake'. So people think, OmniORB gets installed, but actually it doesn't get installed. hmm, actually emake itself has a || die statement, so this change shouldn't be necessary (but it's policy, so it should be changed). Hm. I found that the behaviour was quite different after I put the '|| die' in. First it installed a few files. Afterwards I got an error statement. First this was ignored. I would like to have write access for this ebuild to create a -r1 ebuild, to let the people get ominORB updatet, so that omniORB gets really installed. Submit a fixed ebuild on bugs.gentoo.org , maybe with a little explanation of the error. Such a trivial fix should be commited in less than 24 hours. Ok, it is in there. Where can I ask for that? I know, I can send bug reports and so on, but I think, there aren't enaugh people with write access to the portage, thats the reason, that There are currently ~150-200 people with write access to cvs and that's already more than the cvs server can handle. For obvious reasons we can't give non-developers write access to the tree, after all we need some credibility and QA. Ok, so I'll use my own local/portage. At the moment I have about 14 packages in there. Downloaded from bugs.gentoo.org, and selfmade. On FreeBSD everything the FreeBSD ports went faster. Maybe this will be here too one day? BTW. 150-200 People worldwide are not very much. And the cvs is overloaded? Maybe we have to create some inofficial portage trees? Martin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 12:20 am, Norberto Bensa wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: Kevin PLEASE do not start a new thread by replying to an old one and eh? Is my kmail messing up threads again? I thought that was straightened out. My apologies to Kevin. I show Kevin's post under Ben Spark's thread titled [gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading. This has happened twice in the last few days, both times starting with a post by Kevin and in both cases the headers show reference to a message with a different topic.(In this case [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which does point to Ben's orriginal post titled as above. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
*agrees with brett* if I haven't modified the file, I leave all the work up to etc-update :) it isn't much effort looking out for the 4 or 5 files you need to worry about. Ross. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:33, brett holcomb wrote: If you blindly say update it then etc-update sure will mess it up. Every update that etc-update has wanted to do has wanted to replace my /dev/... with /dev/BOOT and take out my stuff and that would sure hose the system. Other than running it through an editor manually I don't know of anyway to let etc-update do it. I suppose you could try an interactive update but for files like fstab I'll do it by hadn. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:11:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] private rsync mirror ?
Is it possible in some way to just syncing /usr/portage/ directory except /distfiles.. I mean if I know which files are unique for every machine I can make them as : rsync --exc= and set one cron job on the main machine to watch gentoo-mirrors and then on all others just rsync with this machine ?! or emerge sync do other stuff too..!? tia raptor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireless Mice
I've acquired a MS wireless mouse (it was free G) and wondered if anyone had used a wireless mouse successfully on Gentoo. This mouse has a base station that plugs into the ps/2 or usb port and the mouse communicates with it. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Except for base-layout updates which seem to include /etc/hosts G but even then it was only a few! On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:37:12 +0200 Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *agrees with brett* if I haven't modified the file, I leave all the work up to etc-update :) it isn't much effort looking out for the 4 or 5 files you need to worry about. Ross. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Mice
Surely it's handled at a hardware level, and treated as a normal mouse? Gentoo shouldn't even need to know it's wireless. Ross. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:40, brett holcomb wrote: I've acquired a MS wireless mouse (it was free G) and wondered if anyone had used a wireless mouse successfully on Gentoo. This mouse has a base station that plugs into the ps/2 or usb port and the mouse communicates with it. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
On 14:27, mercoledì 17 settembre 2003, Joshua Banks wrote: 1) /etc/dispatch-conf.conf /etc/._cfg_dispatch-conf.conf Don't know, I don't use it. 2) /etc/issue /etc/._cfg_issue I kept mine, but if you replace it with the suggested one it won't hurt too much. This file contains the text that is displayed when an user login via VT (i.e., something like welcome to host.domain.com (Linux i686 2.4.22) on tty6). In case you had customized this a lot, it's better that you don't let it be overwritten. 3) /etc/init.d/bootmisc /etc/init.d/._cfg_bootmisc [cut] 14) /etc/init.d/serial /etc/init.d/._cfg_serial These are all boot-time scripts, that start various services or prepare things for the system to run correctly. My little humble advice is: if you didn't modify (or customize) the previous versions, then it's relatively safe to replace them with the new versions (I did, and had no problems). The new versions introduce new functionalities, like better RAID handling and so on, and shouldn't affect normal system behavior. Of course, it's always better not to do a blind upgrade, but instead ask etc-update to show you what it's doing, at least to have a rough understanding of the changes/improvements. Bye -- Air conditioned environment - Do not open Windows. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:33:46AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: If you blindly say update it then etc-update sure will mess it up. Every update that etc-update has wanted to do has wanted to replace my /dev/... with /dev/BOOT and take out my stuff and that would sure hose the system. Other than running it through an editor manually I don't know of anyway to let etc-update do it. I suppose you could try an interactive update but for files like fstab I'll do it by hadn. As I said, you've got to pay attention - it's not a no-brainer. etc-update lets you review each part of the patch and choose to do hand-patching on the pieces that need it. Even for files like /etc/fstab that require attention, it's less work (IMHO) than pulling both old and new versions into editors and eyeballing every one of the changes. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:11:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless Mice
I use a logitech wireless, and yes.. It's just like any other mouse as far as the OS is concerned -Original Message- From: Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Mice Surely it's handled at a hardware level, and treated as a normal mouse? Gentoo shouldn't even need to know it's wireless. Ross. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:40, brett holcomb wrote: I've acquired a MS wireless mouse (it was free G) and wondered if anyone had used a wireless mouse successfully on Gentoo. This mouse has a base station that plugs into the ps/2 or usb port and the mouse communicates with it. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ???
So I thought I should try out distcc on three hardware-challenged and absolutely identical computers. emerge -p distcc shows a requirement of xfree (???) I have -X in my USE flag. Now, I have tried to understand more or less what distcc is, and I believe it is what I think it is; a distributed compiler. Question: Why on earth would a distributed compiler system require xfree? Biker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage write access?
On 09/17/03 Martin Klaffenboeck wrote: Am 2003.09.17 14:26 schrieb(en) Marius Mauch: On 09/17/03 Martin Klaffenboeck wrote: I know, I can send bug reports and so on, but I think, there aren't enaugh people with write access to the portage, There are currently ~150-200 people with write access to cvs and that's already more than the cvs server can handle. For obvious reasons we can't give non-developers write access to the tree, after all we need some credibility and QA. Ok, so I'll use my own local/portage. At the moment I have about 14 packages in there. Downloaded from bugs.gentoo.org, and selfmade. If a bug is idle for more than, lets say one month post a comment on the bug to notify the assigned developer, if he's not responding ask another developer to look after it (per mail or IRC). On FreeBSD everything the FreeBSD ports went faster. Maybe this will be here too one day? Last time I looked at FreeBSD a lot of packages I use regulary were rather outdated. BTW. 150-200 People worldwide are not very much. And the cvs is overloaded? The current overload has two reasons: inadequate hardware and the master rsync mirror is running on that box. Both issues are are going to be resolved soon (I hope). But even then we can't just give write access to non-developers for the other given reasons. We need to have control over what is going in the tree. Maybe we have to create some inofficial portage trees? www.breakmygentoo.net Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] clearing out distfiles?
-- quoting Tom Wesley -- Attached is a copy of distclean, found on the forums... If I try to run this script, I get the following error: = itchy scripts # ./distclean-0.1.py -p DISTDIR = /usr/portage/distfiles !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/mirrorselect-0.2-r1' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/mirrorselect/mirrorselect-0.2-r1.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/mirrorselect-0.2-r1 !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/gentoolkit/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1 !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/sysklogd/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3 = ... and so on. has anybody an idea what is wrong here? Greets and TIA, Matthias -- Homer: No TV and No Beer Make Homer ... something something. Marge: Go crazy? Homer: Don't mind if I do! Treehouse of Horror V -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox Vs. Openbox
begin quote On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 23:37:49 +1200 Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people prefer, fluxbox or openbox? OpenBox doesn't have tabbed windows, but I pretty much never use that feature anyway. What does OpenBox offer me that fluxbox doesn't? Openbox. for one single reason, that is has way above Fluxbox. Standards compliance. openbox works nicely with Gnome (and I've been told about KDE and XFce too, but I'm not sure) and plays along just fine with desktop management tools. Very nice . //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: trouble with xerces-2.5.0
First of all, thanx for the link. It helped to solve the problem, even if the sollution was kind of rude. I solved the problem with a very very dirty method! I simply got the jdk-1.4.2 from sun, installed it and copied it to /opt/blackdown-jdk.1.4.1 ... (I had copied the actuall blackdown dir to another place, of course) and everything works fine now. I did this because changing the $CLASSPATH seemed to have no effect and I was eager to see if such a method would work at all. won't this lead to problems? Aren't there any packages that need exactly version 1.4.1 and will emerge not be confronted with problems when trying to update blackdown some day??? Thanx in advance, momesana Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 14:33 schrieb sf: momesana wrote: Hi, everybody. I can't emerge -u world since the emerge process returns an Error while compiling Xerces-2.5.0. I have pasted the errormessage into that email beneath. I also obtained the sources and tried to compile them myself and this also failed. Any suggestion on how to solve this? ... http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27241 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Current XSESSION entry for KDE?
To find out what KDE release your using simply right click on the K-Startapplication Iconthen Panel MenuHelpAbout KDE JBanks --- Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, currently updating my complete Gentoo installation on the LapTop I wonder if it still correct to have XSESSION=kde-3.1 in my /etc/rc.conf. Must I change this into kde-3.2 now or is 3.2 not there already? Karl-Heinz - -- Karl-Heinz Zimmer, Senior Software Engineer, Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken, 1880 - 1956 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/aDGPCcaVnbvggDcRAiyuAKDSaZHEglCP2MhZOvpzAc7Nz81E7QCg34/t Xa/7SR3+CvFnrBQeKiZHej4= =RUWa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Mice
brett holcomb wrote: I've acquired a MS wireless mouse (it was free G) and wondered if anyone had used a wireless mouse successfully on Gentoo. This mouse has a base station that plugs into the ps/2 or usb port and the mouse communicates with it. I have a generic wireless USB mouse that I got to work with Linux fairly easily. It was one of the ones with the button on either side of the mouse in addition to the normal 2 buttons and a scrolling wheel. I don't use it anymore because I couldn't get the scrolling wheel to work in X. I ended up giving it to my fiance to use on her Windows machine :) -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] clearing out distfiles?
Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: -- quoting Tom Wesley -- Attached is a copy of distclean, found on the forums... If I try to run this script, I get the following error: = itchy scripts # ./distclean-0.1.py -p DISTDIR = /usr/portage/distfiles !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/mirrorselect-0.2-r1' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/mirrorselect/mirrorselect-0.2-r1.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/mirrorselect-0.2-r1 !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/gentoolkit/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/gentoolkit-0.1.18-r1 !!! aux_get(): ebuild for 'app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3' does not exist at: !!! /usr/portage/app-admin/sysklogd/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3.ebuild Failed to get file list for app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r3 = ... and so on. has anybody an idea what is wrong here? The first 2 have been moved to the app-portage category and that particular version of sysklogd is no longer in the portage tree. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge from LiveCD
You got further than I did...I tried to install the GRP from CD only but kept getting errors about not having a network connection...seems like the GRP instructions stop about 1/2 way through. Can you give me any tips on how to install the basic GRP from CD only? -Original Message- From: Bob Barry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge from LiveCD I got the Gentoo 1.4 disks via snail mail, and installed as nearly by the book as I could. I only have dialup ppp, so installing much of the system from CD saves both time and telkom cost. The emerge system works beautifully if I start the ppp. But the instructions say that you should be able to install from the CDs, or from files copied from the CDs. The example they give is: # USE='bindist emerge -k xfree But I can't get this to work. I've looked at man page, portage manual, etc, but I must be missing something. Here's actual console output: asterix:packages ls xfree* xfree-4.3.0-r2.tbz2 asterix:packages export PKGDIR=$PWD asterix:packages echo $PKGDIR /usr/portage/packages asterix:packages USE=bindist emerge -K xfree Calculating dependencies !!! There are no packages available to satisfy: xfree !!! Either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild. !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct. asterix:packages USE=bindist emerge -K xfree-4.3.0-r2.tbz2 Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 to / !!! CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, aborting... asterix:packages I've googled for CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, to no avail. Can you gentoo boffins direct me? TIA Bob Barry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1
Hi, Did u try disable'ing pam ? it seems to be br0ken ... when i said usePAM no it worked P - Original Message - From: Sebastian Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Trouble with OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 | Sebastian Bergmann wrote: | Any idea? | | Yep: It's yet another GCC 3.3.1-r2 issue. | | Downgraded to GCC 3.3.1-r1, remerged OpenSSH 3.7.1_p1 and it works | again. | | -- | Sebastian Bergmann | http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ | | Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ | | | -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list | | | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
Yes, I replied long ago saying that I now see how to use etc-update correctly. Thanks though. Maybe now you see why I started the other thread about etc-update. I've actually been able to look through the various files that need updating and feel like I need to be a programmer to understand the diff's in allot of these files. I think that this is something that we should take to Gentoo DEV like many others have been saying all along. Only now do I understand this. JBanks --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:33:46AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: If you blindly say update it then etc-update sure will mess it up. Every update that etc-update has wanted to do has wanted to replace my /dev/... with /dev/BOOT and take out my stuff and that would sure hose the system. Other than running it through an editor manually I don't know of anyway to let etc-update do it. I suppose you could try an interactive update but for files like fstab I'll do it by hadn. As I said, you've got to pay attention - it's not a no-brainer. etc-update lets you review each part of the patch and choose to do hand-patching on the pieces that need it. Even for files like /etc/fstab that require attention, it's less work (IMHO) than pulling both old and new versions into editors and eyeballing every one of the changes. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:11:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ntpd and hwclock
I read the forum entry on setting up ntpd (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=41099) and did everything except modify /etc/conf.d/ntpd. I checked my time with the date command and compared it with http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl. The time as reported by date was not correct, but after running hwclock --systohc it was correct. Is this not something that ntpd does? -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: trouble with xerces-2.5.0
momesana wrote: First of all, thanx for the link. It helped to solve the problem, even if the sollution was kind of rude. I solved the problem with a very very dirty method! I simply got the jdk-1.4.2 from sun, installed it and copied it to /opt/blackdown-jdk.1.4.1 ... (I had copied the actuall blackdown dir to another place, of course) and everything works fine now. I did this because changing the $CLASSPATH seemed to have no effect and I was eager to see if such a method would work at all. won't this You can set the vm you want to use with java-config --set-system-vm (as root). For example java-config --set-system-vm=sun-jdk-1.4.2.01 or java-config --set-system-vm=blackdown-jdk-1.4.1 lead to problems? Aren't there any packages that need exactly version 1.4.1 and will emerge not be confronted with problems when trying to update blackdown some day??? ... Every version should have its own slot so that you can keep as many of them as you like, but afaik this is not the case right now. Regards, Stephan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Really, really need help with procmail and evolution
I really need some help now, normal if nobody answers to a mail i find it several day's later, but now i'm compleet stuck. I'm using evolution now as mail program/PIM but i want to use my fetchmail/postfix/spam/procmail setup because i like this. The only problem i got is that i don't know where procmail may deliver the mails. Evolution has /home/istari/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox wherein 3 folders are cur - new - tmp. Procmail now delivers mail of each receipt into the new folder. The problem is that there i sno update of the folder status. If i click on the folder than i see the new mails. Advice/Help is more than welcom. i'm using maildir format. Patrick -- Do you know what a Vulcan mind meld is? -- Tuvok It's that thing where you grab someone's head... -- Crewman Suiter PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ???
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 15:02 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I thought I should try out distcc on three hardware-challenged and absolutely identical computers. emerge -p distcc shows a requirement of xfree (???) Hmm, I guess emerge -pv distcc will show +gtk at the end of the distcc line. I have -X in my USE flag. The gtk USE flag is the one that triggers X. Question: Why on earth would a distributed compiler system require xfree? Because the the distcc monitor has a gtk interface, which is compiled when gtk is in your USE flags. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
Thanks for the tip on kappfinder! I never knew that existed. Anyone know how to get it to find openoffice.org and games in /usr/local/games? On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:33 pm, gabriel wrote: On September 16, 2003 10:57 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not like Konqueror. you need to run kappfinder. it'll go through your box and find programs that can be run from kde and allow you to select which ones you want included. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ???
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:02:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So I thought I should try out distcc on three hardware-challenged and | absolutely identical computers. | | emerge -p distcc | | shows a requirement of xfree (???) | | I have -X in my USE flag. | | Now, I have tried to understand more or less what distcc is, and I | believe | it is what I think it is; a distributed compiler. | | Question: Why on earth would a distributed compiler system require | xfree? USE=-gtk -X There's a gtk front-end which will be included unless you have -gtk. HTH, -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at firedrop.org.uk Web:www.firedrop.org.uk System: Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.10p1 Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ???
Dirk, Your theory sounds reasonable. I'll try to add -gtk+ to my USE tonight. TIA Biker Dirk Heinrichs ext-dirk.heinrichsTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] @nokia.comcc: (bcc: Gustav Schaffter/CDS/CG/CAPITAL) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ??? 17-09-2003 15:50 Please respond to gentoo-user Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 15:02 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I thought I should try out distcc on three hardware-challenged and absolutely identical computers. emerge -p distcc shows a requirement of xfree (???) Hmm, I guess emerge -pv distcc will show +gtk at the end of the distcc line. I have -X in my USE flag. The gtk USE flag is the one that triggers X. Question: Why on earth would a distributed compiler system require xfree? Because the the distcc monitor has a gtk interface, which is compiled when gtk is in your USE flags. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net (See attached file: attahqyn.dat) attahqyn.dat Description: Binary data -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc requires xfree ???
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 16:02 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your theory sounds reasonable. It's reality, read the ebuild ;-) Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)151 1513 6954 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Cap Gemini Ernst Young| Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.cgey.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] emerge gnome 2.4
Hi Guys I am trying to emerge gnome 2.4 but it depends on alot of masked packages. So I set my ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 but still no luck. What else do I need to do to emerge gnome 2.4 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Wayne -- This message, including any attachments, may contain information which is confidential, private or privileged in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments and please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and destroy the original message. Any views in this communication are those of the sender except where the sender specifically states otherwise. Please note that the recipient must scan this e-mail and any attached files for viruses and the like. No liability of whatever nature is accepted for any loss, liability, damage or expense resulting directly or indirectly from this communication and/or the access and/or downloading of any attachments. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] nvidia kernel upgrade
Is anyone else having a problem upgrading nvidia kernel? I've tried with and without an Xserver running. Do I need to emerge -C my older nvidia-kernel first? $ sudo emerge nvidia-kernel Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3 to / md5 src_uri ;-) NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4363.tar.gz Unpacking source... Unpacking NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4363.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3/work * Linux kernel 2.4.20 Source unpacked. rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o nv-linux.o nv_compiler.h *.d NVdriver nvidia.o echo \#define NV_COMPILER \`gcc -v 21 | tail -1`\ nv_compiler.h gcc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar -O -MD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=4363 -DNV_UNIX -DNV_LINUX -DNV_INT64_OK -DNVCPU_X86 -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:6, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:297:35: linux/supermount_fs_i.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:6, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:517: field `supermount_i' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:28, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h: In function `set_fs_root': /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: for each function it appears in.) In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:28, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h: In function `set_fs_pwd': /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:57: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:30, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/grsecurity.h:12:26: linux/grdefs.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/linux/include/linux/grsecurity.h:56:25: linux/grmsg.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: At top level: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:172: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:62: warning: previous implicit declaration of `preempt_schedule_R707f93dd' /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:172: warning: `preempt_schedule_R707f93dd' was previously implicitly declared to return `int' In file included from nv.c:14: nv-linux.h:167:2: #error Couldn't determine number of arguments expected by remap_page_range! nv.c: In function `nv_kern_mmap': nv.c:1295: warning: implicit declaration of function `NV_REMAP_PAGE_RANGE' make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 114, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] /var/cache/edb/world
because of the problems I'm having with nvidia-kernel, I backed-up /var/cache/edb/world and removed the nvidia-kernel line. Now an emerge -UDp world still wants to upgrade it. What am I missing? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /var/cache/edb/world
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i think nvidia-glx depends on it Ernie Schroder wrote: | because of the problems I'm having with nvidia-kernel, I backed-up | /var/cache/edb/world and removed the nvidia-kernel line. Now an | emerge -UDp world still wants to upgrade it. What am I missing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/aG8mhdeStyZPEXcRArb3AJwN4M+z6eUHYluBtouh2zHa7fNSQwCglneO Qp1lrUnFdgZO04IZII5B6Ss= =oyHo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to find jar program?
Zitat von Jose Gonzalez Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin, You need a java package and java-config installed, and you need to execute java-config to set the system java virtual machine. Regards, Jose PS: By the way, I've seen this question a dozen times, shouldn't this be included in a FAQ or something? thanks for your help... but why isn't that mentioned while i tried to emerge the 'db' package! couldn't emerge 'say' anything about that this package depends on java?! ok, the jar program looks like something to to with java, but how do i know this for sure? if it does not say it needs java, i have to post such a questions... martin martin wrote: hi! i tried to update the system, but doing a emerge -u system stops at the package sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2 with an error... it says it needs a jar program, but does not find it in $PATH... so where do i find this program? how do i find out which package i should merge to get this? qpkg -f works only for installed packages. is there a tool that can search also in NOT installed packages? why isn`t jar automatically merged as it seems that db depends on it? is this a bug? can someone help me? here is the output of the error: -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
KAppFinder can only add apps it already knows about. OpenOffice.org should be added automatically when it is emerged if you had the kde USE flag set. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 22:56, Stephen Boulet wrote: Thanks for the tip on kappfinder! I never knew that existed. Anyone know how to get it to find openoffice.org and games in /usr/local/games? On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:33 pm, gabriel wrote: On September 16, 2003 10:57 pm, Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: I emerged Mozilla-Firebird today. The problem is that I cannot seem to find it. It is not listed in the KDE menu. Did I have to emerge Mozilla first? Any suggestions on how I can locate this browser? I really do not like Konqueror. you need to run kappfinder. it'll go through your box and find programs that can be run from kde and allow you to select which ones you want included. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
There's a lot of talk that pops up in gentoo-dev regarding etc-update. For the time being, etc-update (or dispath-conf for a little protection) is about the best you'll get. Having said that, dispatch-conf *does* do automatic header and white-space merging and can also be set to auto-merge files that you haven't edited. Edit /etc/dispatch-conf.conf, run dispatch-conf, create the directory it tells you to and then run it again. It's about as (not!) easy to use as etc-update but will present you with much fewer changes. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 22:39, Joshua Banks wrote: Yes, I replied long ago saying that I now see how to use etc-update correctly. Thanks though. Maybe now you see why I started the other thread about etc-update. I've actually been able to look through the various files that need updating and feel like I need to be a programmer to understand the diff's in allot of these files. I think that this is something that we should take to Gentoo DEV like many others have been saying all along. Only now do I understand this. JBanks --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:33:46AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: If you blindly say update it then etc-update sure will mess it up. Every update that etc-update has wanted to do has wanted to replace my /dev/... with /dev/BOOT and take out my stuff and that would sure hose the system. Other than running it through an editor manually I don't know of anyway to let etc-update do it. I suppose you could try an interactive update but for files like fstab I'll do it by hadn. As I said, you've got to pay attention - it's not a no-brainer. etc-update lets you review each part of the patch and choose to do hand-patching on the pieces that need it. Even for files like /etc/fstab that require attention, it's less work (IMHO) than pulling both old and new versions into editors and eyeballing every one of the changes. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:11:24 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:00:59AM -0400, brett holcomb wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Also, when you modify your make.conf file you don't want it overwritten mindlessly. If you notice etc-update will remove all your changes. etc-update won't break /etc/fstab if you pay attention to what you're doing. The etc-update interface takes some getting used to... I made a mess the first time I tried it - so it's a good idea to save the files you're updating before you start. But once you get the hang of using it, it's a lot less trouble than doing it by hand. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:42:59 -0400 Ben Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not use etc-update? seems to save much hassle and time for me. On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:30, Joshua Banks wrote: Come-on... No fish in the Gentoo pond..tonight -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage write access?
begin quote On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:36:47 +0200 Martin Klaffenboeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW. 150-200 People worldwide are not very much. And the cvs is overloaded? Yeah, the server is badly overloaded at the moment. We have a new server in transit I've been told, but it isn't installed yet. Maybe we have to create some inofficial portage trees? preferrably not, We already spend a lot of time weeding out idiotic bug reports from breakmygentoo's experimental builds ( Why do we get bugs signed for packages that don't exist in our tree? )Perhaps we should implement DRM technology for packages so that all installed builds are checked in a bug-submission state and if custom changes are made they don't validate? ;) (Just kidding, But I think that would be the only way to avoid the extra work) The main problem about workforce is growth. We've had some bad issues where that when we overnight got loads of users, and the increasing amount of users increased our levels of bugs and more reports, grew the packages, but as developers we couldn't match. We had to take in more devs, but this adds another issue, training developers. Even if you think you're good you realize theres a lot of things to know, from policy to best practices, and including why some of the seemingly illogical behaviours of packages are the right way. Right now we're once more in a groth period of developers, and it seems things are slowly shaping out to become more even in terms of developer/user/package ratio. There is inherent wisdom in quotes like this: A manager went to the master programmer and showed him the requirements document for a new application. The manager asked the master: How long will it take to design this system if I assign five programmers to it? It will take one year, said the master promptly. But we need this system immediately or even sooner! How long will it take it I assign ten programmers to it? The master programmer frowned. In that case, it will take two years. And what if I assign a hundred programmers to it? The master programmer shrugged. Then the design will never be completed, he said. -- Geoffrey James, The Tao of Programming //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 21:27, Joshua Banks wrote: LOL.. Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. You don't need to be a programmer at all - that's much harder. What you do need is to be comfortable with config files; there's no other way to survive with Gentoo at the moment and possibly not in the future either. Textual config files are the heart of GNU software and most *NIX software. Redhat, Mandrake, etc just provide graphical tools that edit the config files. If you don't know what a config file is about, first check out the man page for it. If there's no man page, check out the man page for the application that uses the config file. If you don't know what application the config file is from, use one of the tools to find out. If you don't know the tools, ask somebody else - I always use find and grep of /var/db/pkg to find what package a file belongs to. Information is power, right? Gentoo (presently) goes along with and doesn't hide any of the information. It only helps to streamline it. That is why so many power users gravitate to it. If your going to survive in this sort of linux environment (ie with very little hand-holding) you going to have to learn how to read man pages and then to just give it a try... Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla-Firebird
begin quote On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:38:41 -0400 Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 12:20 am, Norberto Bensa wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: Kevin PLEASE do not start a new thread by replying to an old one and eh? Is my kmail messing up threads again? I thought that was straightened out. My apologies to Kevin. I show Kevin's post under Ben Spark's thread titled [gentoo-user] hotplug and module loading. This has happened twice in the last few days, both times starting with a post by Kevin and in both cases the headers show reference to a message with a different topic.(In this case [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which does point to Ben's orriginal post titled as above. I see this too, not only a KMail thing the sender users: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 so yes, user re-education is necessary. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mailing-list archive
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:20:17 +0200 Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- quoting Ron -- I am new to Linux and even newer to mailing lists. How do you save the mailing-list emails? Do you move them to a folder in your mail program or do you have a separate directory you use? I like the idea as I have also deleted things I later wished I still had! I fetch all mails via pop3 with KMail (using maildir) -- no big deal. All mails get filtered with Kmail's filter, one or them is for gentoo-MLs. -user is stored into it's own folder, and this folder is kept, I delete no mails. That's it, your own personal archive... Almost any mailer on linux has the ability to filter mail by a variety of criteria and store in specific folders. I use Sylpheed. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /var/cache/edb/world
There's also a virtual for opengl provided by nvidia-glx so you'll need to sort that out as well. On Wednesday 17 September 2003 23:26, Martin Larsson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i think nvidia-glx depends on it Ernie Schroder wrote: | because of the problems I'm having with nvidia-kernel, I backed-up | /var/cache/edb/world and removed the nvidia-kernel line. Now an | emerge -UDp world still wants to upgrade it. What am I missing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/aG8mhdeStyZPEXcRArb3AJwN4M+z6eUHYluBtouh2zHa7fNSQwCglneO Qp1lrUnFdgZO04IZII5B6Ss= =oyHo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
Thank you Jason and Patrick for your advices. I am going to dl the ISOs for the live cds and install GRP at first. Jason : RTC is a french name for dialup connection (sorry, I thought it was a standard, having different meanings in french ang english though, like GSM) Another last question : how big is a freshly rsync'ed portage tree? Thanks again. Regards, Vincent -- Vincent Rubiolo 4th Year Student At The School Of Engineering Ecole des Mines de Nantes (France) http://www.emn.fr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where to find jar program?
Martin, The problem is that you don't only need to have java and java-config installed, the problem is that you need to have a java virtual machine selected with java-config. If you make an emerge with --emptytree you can see that java and java-config is listed in the packages to be installed, so you must have java and java-config installed, that's why they don't appear in your list of updates. And please, don't take my previous PS as a personal attack (your response seems to imply you thought I was attacking you and you are defending from my attack), is was meant to be just a suggestion for the doc mantainers, as I've seen this question a lot of times in the mailing list. I've been working with java for a long time, so I know what jar is, but I think a common linux user doesn't have to know about it, so this error may be confusing, as it was in your case. Regards Jose martin wrote: Zitat von Jose Gonzalez Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin, You need a java package and java-config installed, and you need to execute java-config to set the system java virtual machine. Regards, Jose PS: By the way, I've seen this question a dozen times, shouldn't this be included in a FAQ or something? thanks for your help... but why isn't that mentioned while i tried to emerge the 'db' package! couldn't emerge 'say' anything about that this package depends on java?! ok, the "jar" program looks like something to to with java, but how do i know this for sure? if it does not say it needs java, i have to post such a questions... martin martin wrote: hi! i tried to update the system, but doing a "emerge -u system" stops at the package "sys-libs/db-4.0.14-r2" with an error... it says it needs a "jar" program, but does not find it in $PATH... so where do i find this program? how do i find out which package i should merge to get this? "qpkg -f" works only for installed packages. is there a tool that can search also in NOT installed packages? why isn`t "jar" automatically merged as it seems that "db" depends on it? is this a bug? can someone help me? here is the output of the error: -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:24:22 +0200 Gwendolyn van der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ rest snipped ] I guess the above is true for several other files. Any file that is hard/dangerous to merge automatically should NOT be in portage, but provided as an example or template instead. In some cases one could support optional configuration files that are read if they exist (if [ -f /etc/blah.local ]; then source /etc/blah.local; ...). My two Eurocents. Amen, sister! Your opinion is worth at leas $.10 US. A slight variant, very simple to implement, would be to have dangerous files (fstab, passwd, group, shadow, make.conf, etc.) stored as /etc/fstab.template, etc., with coded instructions for critical changes. etc-update could be modified to look for the specially coded instructions, automatically store the .template, and to warn you that action is required. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] nvidia kernel upgrade
Hi, I had that problem before i upgraded my kernel to gentoo-r7 what is the kernel that your using ? regards, RNuno -Original Message- From: Ernie Schroder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: quarta-feira, 17 de Setembro de 2003 15:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] nvidia kernel upgrade Is anyone else having a problem upgrading nvidia kernel? I've tried with and without an Xserver running. Do I need to emerge -C my older nvidia-kernel first? $ sudo emerge nvidia-kernel Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3 to / md5 src_uri ;-) NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4363.tar.gz Unpacking source... Unpacking NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4363.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3/work * Linux kernel 2.4.20 Source unpacked. rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o nv-linux.o nv_compiler.h *.d NVdriver nvidia.o echo \#define NV_COMPILER \`gcc -v 21 | tail -1`\ nv_compiler.h gcc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar -O -MD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=4363 -DNV_UNIX -DNV_LINUX -DNV_INT64_OK -DNVCPU_X86 -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:6, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:297:35: linux/supermount_fs_i.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:6, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:517: field `supermount_i' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:28, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h: In function `set_fs_root': /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:34: for each function it appears in.) In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:28, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h: In function `set_fs_pwd': /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:57: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:30, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/grsecurity.h:12:26: linux/grdefs.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/linux/include/linux/grsecurity.h:56:25: linux/grmsg.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:22, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: At top level: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:172: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration /usr/include/linux/fs_struct.h:62: warning: previous implicit declaration of `preempt_schedule_R707f93dd' /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:172: warning: `preempt_schedule_R707f93dd' was previously implicitly declared to return `int' In file included from nv.c:14: nv-linux.h:167:2: #error Couldn't determine number of arguments expected by remap_page_range! nv.c: In function `nv_kern_mmap': nv.c:1295: warning: implicit declaration of function `NV_REMAP_PAGE_RANGE' make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r3 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 114, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update versus Manual update opinions..
On 17 Sep 2003, at 1:24 pm, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote: brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your system will break. Exactly. I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab). I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this was changed, were you to file it as a bug. I'm cross posting to gentoo-dev to see what they think. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update You've got to be kidding me!!
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 3:50 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 21:27, Joshua Banks wrote: LOL.. Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out what files I can update safely and which ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. You don't need to be a programmer at all - that's much harder. What you do need is to be comfortable with config files; there's no other way to survive with Gentoo at the moment and possibly not in the future either. Textual config files are the heart of GNU software and most *NIX software. However, it's got to be said that because of etc-update's tendency to show you both what are obviously config files as well as what are obviously computer programs, there's a demarcation that would be beneficial to implement in future versions. Most of what whizzes past in etc-update is some form of computer program, I've noticed, and I really don't think it should expect me to be reprogramming some arcane part of the system, whereas a config file, such as fstab, make.conf or rc.conf is my responsibility because I altered it in the first place. I'm just growing out of the phase where I'd let etc-update do everything for me, and then take the remaining two weeks to get my system back up running. Now, etc-update isn't such an ordeal. The interactive merging thing never works, though, so I keep copies of the whole system on another drive, and derive the old un-updated config information from that. The computer programs themselves aren't my concern, so I let etc-update just do everything, but take note of what it updates. If I recognise it, then I'll copy the original back as soon as etc-update finishes. That's the best way of doing it. -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Figures about gentoo compilation -- rtc connection
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:56:09 +0200 Vincent Rubiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Jason and Patrick for your advices. I am going to dl the ISOs for the live cds and install GRP at first. Jason : RTC is a french name for dialup connection (sorry, I thought it was a standard, having different meanings in french ang english though, like GSM) Another last question : how big is a freshly rsync'ed portage tree? Thanks again. du -s shows my tree to be 654232 . -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
