[gentoo-user] Video Surveillance?
I'm trying to track down a linux app that will implement video surveillance using motion detection via simple Logitech QuickCams and the v4l api. So far not much has turned up. It seems that most everything available will only capture pictures at a set interval instead of by detecting motion. If anyone here knows of an app like I've outlined, please share the wealth. Cheers... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 12:08am up 152 days, 4:42, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.4.21... Dead in the water...
Well... with all the talk about 2.4.21 on the net and this mail list... I grabbed a copy and started fooling around. BOY, did I get some odd mixed results... Framebuffer support in this ga release is very good. I'm able to capture video with my wingo and ctl-atl-fnc-X to a terminal and not crash the system. In 2.4.20 or any of the recent 2.4.21-rc versions... if I load a kernel with framebuffer support in it, once I start X, I can never switch back to a terminal or leave X without totally locking up my computer. Other odd thing with 2.4.21, acpi or apm both fail to modprobe horribly... I'm not able to cleanly shutdown-h without either power manager loaded. Both compile cleanly... either as a dedicated service or with both services in one kernel. Without a PM loaded... it's not good to turn off the computyer when I'm done. So, for now, I'm going back to the better debugged 2.4.20 kernel. No hassles there except for the framebuffer problem mentioned above. I'd be willing to bet that 2.4.22 will be out in less time than 2.4.21 took... Any takers? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:50am up 157 days, 16:24, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] TV tuner
I just grabbed a HAUPAUGE(sp) WIN-GO TV tuner model 190 from CompUSA for $49.00. It works perfectly under linux with the XAWTV app, using bttv.o and a base installation of framebuffers in the kernel. I had it installed and working in less time than it took to type this message. Cheers. On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:26:11 +0200 Martin Lesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Friday 13 June 2003 20.07, Christopher Egner wrote: > > > Whats the compatibility look like for tv tuners? Any suggestions? I'm > > > looking for something that can preferably watch one channel and record > > > another at the same time (is this possible?) > > You need 2 tuners to do this, which is possible. Take a look at > > www.mythtv.org. There are ebuilds in bugs.gentoo.org. Search on mythtv. > > I have really no reasonable knowledge about HF so the same question > enhanced: Is it technically possible to watch only some parts of more > than one channel with *one* card? I'm only interested in the vbi-data > which IIRC take only the first 3 (?) lines transmitted. So the > card/software (I use alevtd with the bttv module here) would have to > switch between the frequencies very fast and capture only the lines > which are important for the vbi part. > > Does anyone know something about and could give me some pointers? > > TIA, Martin > > -- > Better-Com bietet Support für freie Software > http://www.bettercom.de - Tel.: +49-40-38037272 > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 3.3
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:37:43 +0200 "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ---snip--- > I rebuild whole KDE 3.1.2 in less time with gcc 3.3 , than kdelibs-3.1.2 and > kdebase-3.1.2 with gcc-3.2.3 > > Yes, there are some problems. > To emerge alsa, I have to edit > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/compile.h > What editing did you do? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:34pm up 165 days, 23:08, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 3.3
I just emerged gcc 3.3 on a test box. Went in smoothly and works well so far. By tomorrow it'll have completed a "emerge -ue world"... I'll know for sure if it's good move or not then. Cheers. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 03:13:19 +0200 "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 23 June 2003 00:44, Jerry McBride wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:37:43 +0200 "Hemmann, Volker Armin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ---snip--- > > > > > I rebuild whole KDE 3.1.2 in less time with gcc 3.3 , than kdelibs-3.1.2 > > > and kdebase-3.1.2 with gcc-3.2.3 > > > > > > Yes, there are some problems. > > > To emerge alsa, I have to edit > > > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/compile.h > > > > What editing did you do? > > I had to edit the #define LINUX_COMPILER line so it looks like this: > #define LINUX_COMPILER "gcc 3.3 (Gentoo Linux 1.4, PVR 3.3)" > > instead of: > #define LINUX_COMPILER "gcc-version (GCC) 3.3 (Gentoo Linux 1.4, PVR 3.3)" > (maybe not 100% correct, is some time ago, I compiled the kernel) > > Glück Auf > Volker > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 5:26pm up 166 days, 22:00, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] switching from GCC to ICC
I explored the ICC package from intel a while back. It's nice compiler. It generated much smaller executables than gcc ever hopes to... sometimes ICC even made faster executables than gcc... but it wasn't really worth the aggravation getting ICC to fit into the linux platform. There is no total, painless conversion to ICC that I know of. I was never able to get a kernel compiled with it... If someone was to write a seamless wrapper for it, that translated gcc commands to icc ones, there may still be a legitimate use for ICC on linux. Until then, it's a curiosity. On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 02:50:51 +0200 "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 30 June 2003 01:59, Chris Graves wrote: > > I keep hearing that for intel processors, ICC builds much better > > overall. Is this true? > > it depends. > > > If I emerge ICC and have "+icc" specified in make.conf, will ICC be the > > prefered compiler on my system? > > dunno, but don't think so. ICC and GCC are way different. Most packages will > not build with icc. > > >Does ICC use the same optimizers as GCC > > (-03 -f*)? > > no > > Glück Auf > Volker > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:13pm up 173 days, 1:47, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
As a true linux follower I'm always looking for ways to get potential linux users to jump the Microsoft bandwagon. Whenever I get a chance. Until tonight I was only able to draw from my own experience and that of others that have gone before me. As of tonight, I've got a really good resource that goes beyond what I've experienced in migrating from windows (I never used it, honest) to linux. Freshly plucked from c.o.l.a. I submit the following url to anyone that needs a tip as to what linux application can be used to replace windows apps. http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en It's worth a bookmark. Cheers. P.S. Not that anyone will cheer or boo... but I'll be on vacation in Mexico for the next two weeks. Save your off-list emails till then, please. Adios! -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:22pm up 173 days, 3:56, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File Sharing between Linuxes
What you need... emerge -u openssh emerge shfs rc-update add sshd boot Once it's loaded, you're ready to go. I didn't fool with automount aspect of shfs, so that portion is on you. However, I added my desired shfs shares to /etc/fstab... a simple mount command and the resource is mounted securely. Fstab sample follows: # /etc/fstab: #shfs mount [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/sidshfsdefaults 0 0 To mount this, I issue a: mount /mnt/sid On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:50:49 +0100 Paulo da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you need to install/configure? > > It would be nice but it doesn't work for me :-( > > timothy farrell escreveu: > > >- Open Konqueror > >- browse to "fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dir/of/files/to/be/shared > > > > > > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:43pm up 176 days, 17 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] the last two days
Without a doubt, distcc is the slickest piece of software on linux... bar none... If you're into doing a lot of compilations of code, distcc will give you good reason for giving life to old, unused, unwanted computers. Each box you plug into your network for distcc support, cuts the amount of compile time your projects take. Sure, there must be a point of diminishing returns, but where? That said, the resources at distcc.samba.org is all you need. Cheers... On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:19:01 -0500 Shawn Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > distcc -- ...Vacationing somewhere in Mexico... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops
Time for me to chime in and add my $0.02 worth... XFCE 4.0 is excellent. It's not quite as full featured as XFCE 3.0, but the improved graphic interface far, far outways it's shortcomings. I am now using it quite extensively on the various laptops I own and admin. Everyone seems to like it so far. As for ACPI on laptops. The stated goal of the ACPI team is to eventually replace APM in the kernel. APM hardware is old technology which ACPI software will eventually support as well as it does ACPI compliant hardware. ACPI in linux is no where near what it is in windows, but it's coming along quite well. That said, I've been able to finally use the ACPI drivers in kernel 2.4.22-pre4 on a previously "APM only" laptop that I tote around. It's an old Compaq 1278. The apci drivers load and behave well with ACPID... On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:38:44 -0400 Chris I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Timo Boettcher wrote: > >>Another environment to check out might be > >>xfce4, it looks rather impressive. > > > > Got an url for that? screenshots? > > http://www.xfce.org/ > > 3) APM or ACPI ? > >>> > I have tried both and can't make a choice, does anyone have any > experience to share ? > >>> > >>>My Notebook is to old for ACPI *g*. > > > >>If you have a choice, great. > > > > I didn't. > > I was referring more to Jonathan's statement. I don't really have a > choice either. > > 5) Framebuffer or not ? > >>> > Is framebuffer power consuming ? > >>> > >>>I would choose framebuffer over X anytime, because its a lot less > >>>CPU/Memory consuming. I was told that Links and Mplayer run in FB > >>>without problems. > > > >>I use X mainly, but I still have the framebuffer enabled. I'm having > >>some nasty issues switching back and forth between console an X that I > >>havent looked into solving. It depends on your use. Do you merely open > >>alot of xterms and do your work in there? > > > > Wasn't that the reason for wm's being developed? *g* > > > >>You might be better off with framebuffer with 12 (instead of 6) > >>consoles, or use screen. > > > > Thats not a question of FB, but of your inittab. I currently have 8 > > consoles. > > I know, but if you are going to use X and have xterms all over, you dont > really need a dozen consoles. If you were using framebuffer alone, it > might be worth considering, or you could use screen instead/as well. > > -Chris I > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:30pm up 2 days, 9:28, 4 users, load average: 0.40, 0.26, 0.16 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?
It looks as though there's an operton in my future... maybe your too and this had caused me to ask... Is there an GENTOO 64bit effort going on, being talked about or planed? I'd most welcome the effort as Gentoo has been great and I can only imagine what it must/will be like on a hammer. TIA, Jerry -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:08pm up 3 days, 6 min, 4 users, load average: 1.68, 1.93, 2.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Running ebuilds one step at a time
For an answer to your ebuild question and perhaps others... point your browser to: http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:13:25 -0700 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At this point I do the patches or substitute files as required by the > > > developers, then... > > > > > > ebuild compile > > > ebuild install > > > Does this look correct? I had sort of pieced this back together from > > > man ebuild, but I've had a couple of issues over the last few days: > > > > [snip] > > > > You need to specify the ebuild as the second parameter as in the > > previous steps. > > Yes! Just my typing in and forgetting to type that. > > Now that you point out the ebuild package merge command, it appears from the > ebuild man page that maybe the right order for me would be: > > ebuild package fetch > ebuild package unpack > > do my edits > > ebuild package compile > ebuild package install > ebuild package qmerge > > This seems to be what the ebuild merge option is doing. Maybe you are > suggestion that I can still use ebuild merge after the edits, which would > possibly start from the compile step and go forward, but I'm hesitant to > trust that with my limited knowledge of these tools and how to check things > out. I'll give this a try. > > Thanks very much! > > Cheers, > Mark > > > > And note that install will do the "make install" step > > (or whatever the package uses to install) in $DESTDIR, which is at > > /var/tmp/portage//image. To really install the package you need > > the merge step for ebuild, as in "ebuild merge", this > > will copy the content of $DESTDIR to the live filesystem. > > > > Marius > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:13pm up 3 days, 11 min, 4 users, load average: 1.60, 1.86, 2.01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?
Yeah, nice announcement. I emailed both hardware vendors mentioned in the message as to the status of the project. I hope it's actually going to take off. On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:53:21 -0400 Jason Giangrande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > en -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:19pm up 3 days, 5:17, 4 users, load average: 2.40, 2.45, 2.34 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?
Absolutely fantastic. Dan, can you do me a favor? Next time you boot the opteron, make a note what the bogomip number is and let us know... I'm curious what it reports. Thanks and I can't wait to jump into the next generation AMD... On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:12:19 -0600 Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 06:53:21PM -0400, Jason Giangrande wrote: > > According to this there are plans for a 64-bit version of Gentoo. > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030512-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect3 > > > > I haven't heard too much about it lately, though. > > Opteron support is going well. We have stages and a LiveCD in testing. > We also have 32-bit environments under AMD64 working perfectly. I'm > currently using "stager" (our stage/GRP building script) to build up > athlon-xp stages on our test Opteron system that CyberLogic has kindly > given us access to (http://www.cyberlogic.net), which is of course running > Gentoo/AMD64. > > Last I heard, X is running perfectly and GNOME compiles fine, but had not > yet been tested. That was a little less than a week ago, so we're getting > close to release. We may not have it ready in time for LinuxWorld SF, > though. > > Best Regards, > > -- > Daniel Robbins > Chief Architect, Gentoo Linux > http://www.gentoo.org > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:03pm up 3 days, 7:01, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.25, 1.65 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:50:00 +0200 Terje Kvernes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:22:06PM +0200, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > > > > ordered a dual 1.8Ghz Opteron to do numbercrunching. we've also > > > bought a dual 3.06Ghz P4 Xeon with HyperThreading to compare it > > > with, but there is very little doubt that the Opteron will come > > > out first. > > > > I wouldn't make that assumption. I could very easily see the dual > > Xeon outperforming the dual Opteron -- make sure to test the > > specific application first. In fact, I would wager that the dual > > Xeon will outperform the Opteron in most situations, based on my > > experience. > > we're mostly talking about locally produced pieces of Fortran > running over rather large datasets for a few days or weeks at a > time. we're looking at mostly floating point and a few other > tidbits. from what I've seen of similar tests, there is little > doubt that the Opteron will be a nice tool for the task. > > > The Opteron 240 seems to be performing somewhere between an XP 2000+ > > and XP 2200+; not even up to Athlon MP levels yet -- based on my > > testing, which is by no means exhaustive. And hyperthreading can > > make a very significant difference for many types of loads, too. > > for our general case, HyperThreading gives almost nothing in the > best case. worst case, it actually costs us some percent here and > there. this is, of course, a known issue. > > we're not talking about desktops running your-favorite-WM here. :-) > > > Be sure to benchmark what you are actually going to be using the > > machine for. A lot of us work under the assumption that "64-bit is > > faster," and that's not necessarily true. > > that much we know. but, there is a reason why you'll still see > people running certain calculations on old Alphas, because they're > still the best ting for certain things. > > Opteron isn't a desktop winner. it's a decent performer for such > tasks, but not a winner. for certain types of numbercrunching > though, all tests I've seen point towards a nice big boost. > Portland Group has some small tidbits about 64bit Fortran if one is > interested. :-) > > (and no, I don't do Fortran, I just like to test hardware. :-) > > -- > Terje > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > A small thing ti consider also, the fastest production opteron is "only" a 1.8gig chip. Wait till the xeon stompers come out this fall... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:12pm up 4 days, 6:10, 4 users, load average: 0.12, 0.21, 0.24 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync taking forever
It'd be "most excellent" if portage used a faster database engine... say mysql.. to catalog it's data. On Tuesday 29 July 2003 05:15 pm, daniel wrote: > On July 29, 2003 04:48 pm, Marius Mauch wrote: > > The better way would be to rewrite portage with a modular approach, so > > it can use different backends (the current code is not very friendly for > > that). But that needs a lot of time. > > alright then, i have some (not much, but some time). what languages do i > need to know? like i said earlier, i'm just a webgeek (perl/php/mysql) but > i'm willing to dive into python if it means getting a more robust portage. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:42pm up 19 days, 2:40, 4 users, load average: 1.19, 1.46, 1.37 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test2 results
On Saturday 02 August 2003 11:57 am, Collins Richey wrote: > 2.6.0-test2 is 100% stable on my desktop system (ext3). > > I note two little extras: > > 1) bash filename completion no longer beeps when there are duplicates. > > 2) One of the many free gratis configuration changes that the good > kernel folks threw my way is ACPI. > > Also, AFAIK, there is no support yet for nvidia cards. I'm using the nv > support built into xfree. Since I'm not a gamester, that's no big deal. Hi Collins, Are you using the alsa sound support? Any problems with test2 in that area? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:25am up 22 days, 21:23, 4 users, load average: 1.65, 1.93, 1.72 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0 killed my touchpad...
On Friday 08 August 2003 11:11 pm, Chris I wrote: > On 2003.08.08 21:55, Jerry McBride wrote: > > Anyways, mm-sources did the trick. > > Do the scroll buttons and configurable pad-ranges work too? On Compaq 1200 series the scroll buttons work fine but no ranges. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:54am up 29 days, 17:52, 4 users, load average: 1.41, 1.37, 1.33 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cryptoloop rc script
I had the need to automate to some degree the startup of a crypto loop. After digging around the internet a bit and not really finding exactly what I needed... I borrowed a bash script that I found and polished it off a tad-bit and added some original code. Works just the way I need. It's abit of a hack, but doesn't contain any bugs(TM). If anyone else is interested, I can email a copy upon request. Cheers, Jerry. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:58pm up 31 days, 7:56, 4 users, load average: 2.75, 2.66, 2.62 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0 killed my touchpad...
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 10:10 pm, Chris I wrote: > On 2003.08.06 21:21, Jerry McBride wrote: > > I tought I'd chime in here to touch base with anyone having problems > > with the > > new 2.6.0 test kernel and touchpads in laptops. > > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-user&m=106020782729526&w=2 > > I just posted on this earlier. > > -Chris I Thanks Cris! I am now running the latest mm-sources and all touchpads tested work! Thank you, for the heads up call. I never would have found it by myself. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:44pm up 28 days, 4:42, 4 users, load average: 1.43, 1.55, 1.55 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Backups
My ISP provide me with a 20meg filespace that I make use of regularly. I compress, encrypt and upload to it nightly. Not a lot of room... but perfect for important config data, etc. It also has the advantage of being accessable where ever and when ever I'm near an internet hookup... For larger datasets... ATA Hard drives have never been cheaper. Either go external via usb or firewire or invest in removable drive mounts... It's the cheapest way possible, that I know of, to backup 100's of gigs of data quickly. > > Hi list! > > > > What is better to use for backups at home - CD-Rs, CD-RWs, another > > harddrive or something else? > > > > The standard way is to use tapes, but they are way too expensive for a > > home desktop system. Harddrives are also not that good, because I want to > > backup a harddrive in the first place, and anyway my system is already > > full so I'd have to swap harddrives or buy an external one for backup. > > And that is not really cheap also. > > > > So what do you suggest? How and how often do you make backups? > > > > > > Regards, > > Renat -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:09pm up 30 days, 9:07, 4 users, load average: 2.87, 2.65, 2.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0 killed my touchpad...
Thanks for the concerns, Ryan. I fixed the problem by compiling mm-sources. Comes patched to supply a synaptics support option... It actually works. As for my actually doing the patching myself... it never works. First time for me that a patch I applied failed to work. Anyways, mm-sources did the trick. Now, to get a couple of applications to compile correctly with 2.6.0. I'd like to have the shfs ebuild install, but fails miserably when it starts to use the headers, etc ion 2.60. I'll just have to wait for this one to catch up I guess. Cheers. On Friday 08 August 2003 09:35 pm, Ryan Phillips wrote: > jerry: check on bugzilla.kernel.org for my bug that I submitted. > Try the synaptics driver and possibly the other fix by adding no > extensions to the mouse options. You can find more info in the bug > that I wrote on the bugzilla kernel site. > > I have gotten my touchpad to work on my Dell 8100. > > Regards, > Ryan > > * Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-06 11:30]: > > I tought I'd chime in here to touch base with anyone having problems with > > the new 2.6.0 test kernel and touchpads in laptops. > > > > I admin an odd lot of about 80 laptops at work and I've been looking into > > testing the 2.6.0 kernel on some of the various brands we run. Oddly > > enough, I've had excellent results in most cases and absolute failure in > > one common hardware area... the touchpad. > > > > I've spent a couple of hours today, compiling the 2.6.0-t2 kernel on a > > few of the failed test machines and trying some of the fixes I've seen > > posted on the internet. I've even compiled XF86 4.30 in one extreme case. > > I've come to the conclusion that on these particular laptops, the kernel > > is hopelessly broken in reguards to internal touchpads. It boils down to > > this... If the touchpad works, you're good... it it's not detected early > > on then it will never work. period. No amount of patching, compiling or > > appending will bring functionality to the dead pad. > > > > Of the laptops I've tested... Touchpads that work; All toshibas, sony and > > dell. Touchpads that fail; Most Compaq's, all Compaq 12xx series and my > > old leo. > > > > I can't wait till T3 comes out... I dearly, dearly LOVE the ease of > > setting up cryptoloop with the new kernel -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:06pm up 29 days, 7:04, 4 users, load average: 1.40, 1.36, 1.47 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux kernel 2.6.* benchmarking/testing
On Sunday 10 August 2003 02:01 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote: > Hello > > Recently, I began using linux-2.6.0-test3 and experienced the following > problems. > > (1) Touchpad did not work - filed as > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072 > (2) Could not open shell window (Eterm) - fixed problem myself and did > not file > Excellent post at bugzilla.kernel.org. I was unable to use the precompiled synaptics binary and compilation of the source code failed or produced a driver that didn't work. Anyway, I was able to get the touchpad working by dropping the vanilia 2.6.0 test 2 source code and instead used the mm-sources. The synaptics support is there as an option during xconfig. I hope the synaptics kernel option makes it into a future 2.6.x release. As for stress testing the 2.6.0 t2 kernel, I've got it running on 2 servers, no problems to report. One thing I really, really like about this new kernel... it seems faster and setting up crypto loop was as easy as pie. Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:57pm up 30 days, 23:55, 4 users, load average: 2.97, 2.98, 2.98 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem exporting NFS directories
Over the last few years I've had numerous anomalies with NFS. WHat I've come to conclusion is that sometimes the exported resource isn't let go when unmounted or accidentally dropped. The next atepmted mount will then fail. Lucky for me there's SHFS and SAMBA to make up for NFS's bad habits. I've never looked much farther than these three linux filesystems, but on that looks and reads well is OpenAFS. When I find the time, I may set it up for evaluation and report back, Till then, have fun. On Sunday 17 August 2003 06:44 pm, Gerar wrote: > It works now but I haven`t done anything. I hate this kind of things. > Thanks anyway. I`m saving your post to my doc folder in case ;) > > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 10:45:32 +0200 > > Joe Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi ! > > > > I have/had the same. > > My problem came from the sleep & kill in the /etc/init.d/nfs - start > > -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:10pm up 38 days, 2:08, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 oddities
On Monday 18 August 2003 10:21 pm, Andrew Farmer wrote: > I've also been trying out 2.6.0-test3. ---snip--- > Also, I wasn't able to make it compile correctly with modules -- the > compilation worked fine, but depmod errored out during make > install_modules. Probably my fault, though. Not your fault. I had the exact same problem with mm-sources test3-mm2. Rather than sweat it out I just back stepped to mm1 sources. Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:46pm up 39 days, 7:44, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] JFS Performance.
On Sunday 31 August 2003 04:18 pm, McIntyres wrote: > Just as a matter of intrest, I'm considering using JFS on my next Gentoo > setup I was wondering if anyone has any idea about its performance > compared to say reiserfs or ext3, I want to avoid XFS as it has only IDE > hard disks and no backup power supply. > I read a white paper on the subject a while back, may 4 months or so. Basically it proves that EXT2 is the fastest of all the non-journalling filesystems on linux. As for the best journalling performer, it was EXT3. The differences of all the journalling filesystems were measurable, but not so different that any one single filesystem was useless. The slowest of the bunch, on average, was XFS. Give me a while... I'll try and track donw that paper for you. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:57am up 51 days, 18:55, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] JFS Performance.
On Sunday 31 August 2003 05:50 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > Hi, --snip-- > I would not try ext3fs. There were a lot of ext3-bugs on lkml in the same > time, I never saw jfs related problems. I think, ext3 needs some additional > bug-sqashing and testing before considering it for a stable environment. > Well... things are getting much, much better WRT ext3... I've been hosting some 50 odd-brand laptops at work using ext3 as the file system. The kernels are 2.4.21 or later. No problems to report. Also, doing my part to test the latest 2.6.0 test branch, I've got the latest 2.6.0 kernel source running on two servers that get hammered pretty hard... running ext3. Also no problems related to the filesystem. Go for it, ext3 ain't that bad. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:26pm up 52 days, 1:24, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.11 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] a smaller penguin
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:37 pm, Renat Golubchyk wrote: > Hi! > > On Wednesday 03 September 2003 00:14, Stephen Turner wrote: > > hey i was hoping for a small linux distro. like i love my bloated destop > > its blazing thanks to those optimizations but what if i wanted to use > > gentoo for somthing embedded? i was hoping to get something small like > > debian. with the auto stuff like gentoo ;) i tried using 386 once back in > > 1.3 i think and it didnt work out the system seemed to be corrupt. ive > > tried a few flags to i think it was -s to try to make the binarys small > > as possible? anyways i realize this isnt the goal of gentoo to make > > things tiny but if i could get the basic install with X and a few other > > apps onto a 700m cd it would make my heart sing! :D did i just goof the > > 386 install or is 486 the lowest supported? > > I wouldn't call 700MB espicially tiny, would you? ;-) > > But if a CD is okay then it means that you want a read-only system. Then > what's wrong with using Knoppix? > > How about? http://www.damnsmalllinux.org It's a 48meg iso, can be burned to one of those neat credit-card sized cdr's and has all the bells and whistles you need. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:15pm up 54 days, 6:13, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Current gs-sources?
Sorry for the short message... ME TOO I'd be willing to toss a few bucks for the effort. On Wednesday 03 September 2003 11:40 pm, Heath Miller wrote: > I would be interested in this as well > > > [Original Message] > > From: Christian Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Gentoo-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 8/26/2003 2:22:17 AM > > Subject: [gentoo-user] Current gs-sources? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I wonder why gs-sources are at 2.4.22-pre2 which is fairly beta as well > > as outdated. I was thinking about it because 2.4.22 has been released > > recently and from the Changelog I could see a lot of more recent > > versions. Any ideas? Best regards, > > > > - Christian > > > > -- > > > > Christian Aust > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > icq: 84500990 - Yahoo!: datenimperator - MSN: datenimperator > > GPG: 3C89AD72 > > > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:34pm up 56 days, 2:32, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.07, 0.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #7
> Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 05:31 schrieb Fred Van Andel: > This is the seventh gentoo poll. > > The question is: > > What was the biggest problem you had installing gentoo? > None... I sat... totally amazed... as linux was born on my desktop... laptop... and server... Truly amazing. Thank you... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:36pm up 56 days, 2:34, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Progress bars??
Is anyone takling suggestions for Gentoo improvements??? A few I would like to see... in order... 1-PROGRESS BARS... man-o-man would I love a progress bar during an emerge update, instead of all the text that gets listed to console. And "updating portage cache"... WOW. That's a real friendly, informative screen update. :') Maybe just expanding the existing -quiet switch in emerge would be better? 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above. 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time, on maybe a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I really have issue with the manner of organizing the system startup scripts. Could we please, use something more granular, more static? Like the good, old fashion SystemV stuff that they used in Caldera Open Linux? KDE ships with a SysV editor that would be a PERFECT match for something like this. I'm so tired of booting the laptops at work and wating for the "CACHING" to complete... If nothing else is done, please see PROGRESS BARS above. 4-DEVFS is a horrible beast... Have odd hardware? Have odd drivers? You gotta' edit the devfs config file... Blah... Please go back to using a static /dev directory like Linus intended. :') It's one of the FIRST things I remove from my Gentoo installs and it's s much better. Anyone willing to work/collaborate with me on implementing suggestion 3? The SysV stuff is pretty well documented on the net, the Open Linux stuff can still be found on the net too. All that needs to be done is developing an ebuild that wipes out the gentoo hack and slides in a decent startup script package that supports the gentoo layout. Do we really need dependencies in the startup scripts??? Anyone? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:17pm up 122 days, 18:10, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bluez Bluetooth Dlink DBT-120
On Saturday 31 January 2004 02:25 pm, Chris wrote: > Ok, ---one big snip--- > and an lsmod shows: > snd-pcm-oss38436 1 (autoclean) > snd-mixer-oss 13648 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] > rfcomm 31368 8 (autoclean) > radeon103112 20 > agpgart30132 3 (autoclean) > l2cap 16108 2 (autoclean) > snd-cmipci 20404 1 > snd-pcm61088 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cmipci] > snd-page-alloc 6324 0 [snd-pcm] > snd-opl3-lib6596 0 [snd-cmipci] > snd-hwdep 5408 0 [snd-opl3-lib] > snd-timer 14724 0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] > snd-mpu401-uart 3424 0 [snd-cmipci] > snd-rawmidi13760 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] > snd-seq-device 4240 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi] > snd33892 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cmipci > snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi > snd-seq-device] > soundcore 3684 7 [snd] > 8211 64104 1 > hci_usb 7256 0 (unused) > bluez 31916 6 [rfcomm l2cap hci_usb] > bluetooth 16320 1 > usb-storage63416 0 (unused) > hid13812 0 (unused) > usb-ohci 18848 0 (unused) > usbcore61952 1 [hci_usb bluetooth usb-storage hid > usb-ohci] > Look at the end of the listing above. Your usb-ohci driver isn't being used You need an active usb driver in there... uci-usb??? It's not being used either... Is the USB hub/hardware being detected at all?? I doubt it. Here's what I see... drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub ehci_hcd :00:10.3: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd :00:10.3: irq 21, pci mem f1877b00 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Jun-13 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found USB Mass Storage device found at 2 drivers/usb/host/uhci-hcd.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.1 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd :00:10.0: irq 21, io base e800 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:00pm up 122 days, 18:53, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 04:21 pm, Frank Hellmuth wrote: --- one big snip --- > Too me it looks like you want to change some of gentoos central points. I > don't wanna be offensive, and I'm sorry If I do, (I have teeth ache from a > root treatment at the moment...) but with that in mind, what features of > gentoo *do* you like? ;) > --- one small snip --- Frank, Skip the wine... go straight for the brandy! I'm just begining to have problems with an old cap I had put on a few yeras back. I really do, feel your pain. As for what I like about Gentoo. That's easy... It Works. But that aside, I really do believe it can be improved upon... if just a tad bit. Everything I asked, wished for is highly usable and very logical. Good luck with the tooth. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:56pm up 122 days, 20:49, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 03:37 pm, Redeeman wrote: > On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 20:30, Jerry McBride wrote: --- one big snip --- > > The SysV stuff is pretty well documented on the net, the Open Linux stuff > > can still be found on the net too. All that needs to be done is > > developing an ebuild that wipes out the gentoo hack and slides in a > > decent startup script package that supports the gentoo layout. Do we > > really need dependencies in the startup scripts??? > > we do need dependencies. > Hmmm,,, for what? Linux has been booting computers since Linus posted the source code and the only distribution that sports dependencies and caching is Gentoo. Why... o... why... must the dependency information need to be her cached each time a user starts up his/her laptop/desktop??? If nothing else is done to the startup scheme in Gentoo, then at least make the dependency generation a part of portage and make it occur ONLY when someone alters something in it There's no need to regenerate ANYTHING if nothing has been altered since the last boot up The dependencies in gentoo's scripts are there to support the gentoo startup scrfipts... Let's get something more efficent. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:08pm up 122 days, 21:01, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 03:18 pm, Glenn English wrote: > On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 12:30, Jerry McBride wrote: > > 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and > > emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above. > > There's often useful info in all that. I kind of think of it as a real > big vertical progress bar :-) > Then you go read the log files if there was a problem... Wooo... big problem. How about a nice progress bar that get's interrupted with printed text showing ERRORS... Hmmm... That would work too... > And to do a progress bar properly, you need to know how much stuff it > going to go on. That will vary with different software versions and > different USE flags. It'd be a mess to figure out -- could be done, but > I'd rather have people spend their time getting HTML email out of my > email client. > It doesn't have to be perfect or exact... The people generating ebuilds could simply add a comment containing somewhere containing; compile time per architecture, resultant build size, etc and portage could use that information to guess-a-mate how to display/update the progress bar... It'd be good enough for me. Whay better than spending tons of processor time updating a console with meaningless text... > > 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time, on > > maybe a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I really > > have issue with the manner of organizing the system startup scripts. > > Could we please, use something more granular, more static? Like the good, > > old fashion SystemV stuff that they used in Caldera Open Linux? KDE ships > > with a SysV editor that would be a PERFECT match for something like this. > > I'm so tired of booting the laptops at work and wating for the "CACHING" > > to complete... If nothing else is done, please see PROGRESS BARS above. > > It *is* a little odd, but would probably be a real mess for users to > change over all the old installed systems. True. But then the world is full of surprises and bad choices. You pick your poision and drink to your fill. :') Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:14pm up 122 days, 21:07, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 03:11 pm, lukas wrote: -- one big snip --- > Yes, I know, I'm a conservative. ;) > God Bless. Cheers... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:47pm up 122 days, 21:40, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 05:09 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:30:22 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | 1-PROGRESS BARS... man-o-man would I love a progress bar during an > | emerge update, instead of all the text that gets listed to console. > | And "updating portage cache"... WOW. That's a real friendly, > | informative screen update. :') Maybe just expanding the existing > | -quiet switch in emerge would be better? > > Come up with some code that works reliably. Submit a bug with it. > If I could code that good, I'd be on the Gentoo Team... Making waves, for sure, but I'd be there. As it is, I can only submit request for comments. > | 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and > | emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above. > > *shrug* if you don't like it, redirect the output somewhere else. > The point is... the output should already be goping somewhere other than the console. Isn't there an easy way to stifle the compiler output or redirect stdout to a logfile with a command line switch? Most apps that I use have no output as the default. And if you want more you simply toss a switch in the mix like: -v. In this requard, I consider emerge to be operating backwards from normally accepted practices. > | 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time, > | on maybe a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I > | really have issue with the manner of organizing the system startup > | scripts. Could we please, use something more granular, more static? > | Like the good, old fashion SystemV stuff that they used in Caldera > | Open Linux? KDE ships with a SysV editor that would be a PERFECT match > | for something like this. I'm so tired of booting the laptops at work > | and wating for the "CACHING" to complete... If nothing else is done, > | please see PROGRESS BARS above. > > Youch. You want to abandon something that was designed to get around all > the problems with SysV init and go back to something with all the > problems of SysV init? > Yup. > | 4-DEVFS is a horrible beast... Have odd hardware? Have odd drivers? > | You gotta' edit the devfs config file... Blah... Please go back to > | using a static /dev directory like Linus intended. :') It's one of the > | FIRST things I remove from my Gentoo installs and it's s much > | better. > > Yup, great idea. How exactly were you planning to handle iSCSI again? How many people have problems with that? > What about hotplugging devices? How do you propse to get around the > shortage of device numbers? > Was never a problem under other distributions. Why under Gentoo? For most users, debvfs offers very little more than just another thing that could go wrong or need configuring. If anything, devfs ought to be offered as an option in the portage tree, not neccessarily as a default. > You *do* know that the whole static major / > minor stuff is going away in 2.7 / 2.8, right? It's too inflexible and > totally incapable of handling modern systems (hotplugging, networked > storage, lots of devices, that kind of thing). > Devfs is "going away" also. At least static devices under /dev is highly supported and sorted out. > Instead, we'll all be using udev like Linus intends. You're right... in like 2.7... maybe even 2.8 if it's not ironed out quicker. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:53pm up 122 days, 21:46, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Saturday 31 January 2004 06:10 pm, Tommi Pirinen wrote: > gabriel wrote: > >>2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and > >> emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above. > > > >it's not garbage. it's output. > > Yeah, except it's not even output, it's mostly input. The command lines > of the compilers generated by automake to be exact. And for the most it > is way too much of information to be anywhere near useful, even most of > the devs wouldn't care whether there's a -Wall flag or > -D_SYSTEM_HAS_WORKING_X=123 flags applied. But it isn't really problem > of gentoo's devs as much as it is problem of, say autotools' devs. The > makefiles of 2.6-series kernels do produce rather beatiful and > _readable_ output. Amen -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:05pm up 122 days, 22:58, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?
On Sunday 01 February 2004 08:16 am, Matt Wilson wrote: > > Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't > > compile cleanly with the 2.6 headers. You certainly can fiddle around > > with the ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though. > > Yea, I didn't think they did (though it did take some testing etc. to > figure this out ). "A lot of conflicts, there are" (usually down to > redefinitions or undefined type usage... it's messy). > Hmmm Since upgrading to nptl which calls for an up todate glibc, linux headera 2.6.x and kernel 2.6.x I haven't had any of the issues you mentioned. However, mysql won't compile unless you jigger the .config file from the package, then it will compile ok. Maybe you've got other problems to iron out first? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:00am up 123 days, 14:53, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sunday 01 February 2004 07:54 am, Vanh Phom wrote: > > Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905 > > NIC? Any problems at all? > > FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450 and 3com 905c > without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4. > Yeah, 2.6 has been a real winner over here also. I've got it on two servers supporting a medium sized lan at work with out a sinlge glitch to mention. Makes one wonder how things could get any better. :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:04am up 123 days, 14:57, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I > have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a "server", I just want > something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g. > torrents, images, and the occasional MP3. > > Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa, > monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or > more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing? We use mini-httpd at work for our internal web server. It's very small, very lightweight and it's about the best one I've found for that kind of purpose. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:42am up 123 days, 15:35, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:04 am, Matt Wilson wrote: > Where are linux-headers-2.6? I couldn't find them in portage. > It's in /usr/portage/sys-kernel/linux-headers. If you don't have it, you're ready for an emerge sync -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:44am up 123 days, 15:37, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:24 am, Aaron Walker wrote: > I've done two NPTL installs so far, and haven't had any problems > whatsoever with glibc. If you use X or svgalib, however, you will have > problems getting those to compile correctly. Both of mine have been > server installs, so I haven't needed those packages. > There are patches for both of those applications that will allow them to compile cleanly. If you can wait a tad bit, there will probably be official fixes for them shortly -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:19am up 123 days, 16:12, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:38 am, Collins Richey wrote: > On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:16:27 -0500 > > Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just adding to the list of "good news". I've got 2.6.x kernels running > > on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop > > system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII > > Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system. > > > > I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel, > > but anticipate doing so here before too long. > > Just curious. So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have > none. What applications are you using? > > I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl. Mind if I intrude? I run everything that I want in portage... And whatever I need outside of it. No errors or no problems. That includes: KDE 3.1.4, 3.2.0, XMMS, JUK, GCC latest version, GLIBC, latest version, JAVA, firebird, jedit, netrexx, reginarexx, JUK, mpg321, alsa utils and libs latest versions, X 4.3.0-r3, apache, whatever I can find... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:33am up 123 days, 16:26, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] i2c/lmsensors- mkdev.sh not found
On Monday 02 February 2004 06:59 pm, Reno Romanin wrote: > I installed lm sensors and i had the i2c modules installed, and per the > ebuild instructions, this is fine. When I try to start lm-sensors, it > says to run mkdev.sh to create the i2c devs, but it isn't anywhere on my > system. > > Anyone know how to get this installed? > It's INSIDE the ebuild. Yu'll have to untar the thing and then browse the programs directory... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:19pm up 125 days, 12 min, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 04:43 pm, _JusSx_ wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 02:30:22PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: > > Is anyone takling suggestions for Gentoo improvements??? > > > > A few I would like to see... in order... > > > > > > 1-PROGRESS BARS... man-o-man would I love a progress bar during an emerge > > update, instead of all the text that gets listed to console. And > > "updating portage cache"... WOW. That's a real friendly, informative > > screen update. :') Maybe just expanding the existing -quiet switch in > > emerge would be better? > > > > 2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and > > emerge updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above. > > > > 3-STARTUP SCRIPTS... Yup, Gentoo is beautiful. I use it all the time, on > > maybe a dozen computers of various architecture and brand. But I really > > have issue with the manner of organizing the system startup scripts. > > Could we please, use something more granular, more static? Like the good, > > old fashion SystemV stuff that they used in Caldera Open Linux? KDE ships > > with a SysV editor that would be a PERFECT match for something like this. > > I'm so tired of booting the laptops at work and wating for the "CACHING" > > to complete... If nothing else is done, please see PROGRESS BARS above. > > > > 4-DEVFS is a horrible beast... Have odd hardware? Have odd drivers? You > > gotta' edit the devfs config file... Blah... Please go back to using a > > static /dev directory like Linus intended. :') It's one of the FIRST > > things I remove from my Gentoo installs and it's s much better. > > > > Anyone willing to work/collaborate with me on implementing suggestion 3? > > > > The SysV stuff is pretty well documented on the net, the Open Linux stuff > > can still be found on the net too. All that needs to be done is > > developing an ebuild that wipes out the gentoo hack and slides in a > > decent startup script package that supports the gentoo layout. Do we > > really need dependencies in the startup scripts??? > > > > Anyone? > > > > -- > > > > * > >* Registered Linux User Number 185956 > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux > > Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net > > This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing > > html. 1:17pm up 122 days, 18:10, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, > > 0.00 > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > Hi, > if you wonna see progress bars, forget linux and start using windows. > Woow... Really helpful... Thanks for the help -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 5:28pm up 125 days, 22:21, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdebase 3.2: can't generate configure, autom4te error
On Thursday 05 February 2004 03:06 pm, Gerald Preissler wrote: > Hi there, > > in the meantime I could narrow down my problem with emerging kdebase 3.2 > (see thread "kdebase 3.2 compile error: syntax error autom4te") a little > bit. > > The part that does not work is the generation of "configure" via > "make -f admin/Makefile.common configure", which generates the already > mentioned error message > > --8<--cut > String found where operator expected at /usr/bin/autom4te-2.57 line 280, > near "error "need GNU m4 1.4 or later: $m4"" > (Do you need to predeclare error?) > syntax error at /usr/bin/autom4te-2.57 line 280, near "error "need GNU m4 > 1.4 or later: $m4"" > BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/autom4te-2.57 > line 453. > --8=--cut > > I already tried downgrading autoconf to 2.58 and automake to 1.7.7 which > did not help. > > Any hints? > I'm confused... Have you visitedd bugs.gentoo.org? A bug has been filed and it has already been patched... err... sort of.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Choppy mp3's via wireless connections...
Anyone have an idea for this one?? I've been experencing choppy mp3 playback when running wireless. Hardwire playback, via cat5e, is perfect. The server/client involved are gentoo. The software versions are: kde 3.2.0, kernel 2.6.2, samba 3.0.1 on both ends. Hardware of the client is a presario 700us running the alsa snd_via82xxx driver with the ac97 codec. I use alsa as the OSS drivers won't detect the laptop hardware Orinoco Gold pcmcia card which is a 802.b running at 11mbit, processor is an AMD 1.2gig with 256meg memory... Anyways, the problem shows it's ugly head anytime I try to play mp3's when running wirelessly. Using KDE and JUK, the mp3 begins to play like normal then pauses briefly and begins to play again. The same thing happens with MPG123 or MPG321 when run without KDE. This occurs all the way through the playback. During the pauses, I have noticed that there's a bit of activity with the connection led's of the Orinoco. I would assume that the player runs out of data stream and pulls more off the server via the wireless. When this happens, the music playback stops until the buffer fills and then playback resumes nornally... If I unplug the Orinoco and plug into the network viat cat5e, playback is perfect, no drop outs or any problems... I've dug all around the net, looking for a way to either increase the buffer size in the orinoco or in juk... I've looked for ways to increase the priority of the pcmcia-cs drivers... I've tried to renice the involved processes, but no change is noted. I've expiremented with the buffers in samba I've done as much as I can do to iron this one out and now I'm asking for a bit of help from anyone that may have a solution. Thank you, in advance. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Choppy mp3's via wireless connections...
--- spinner ping statistics --- 1000 packets transmitted, 1000 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.772/0.778/1.272/0.043 ms, ipg/ewma 1.000/0.783 ms Doesn't look too bad to me... I'm begining to suspect the orinoco-cs driver. When I get the time I'm going to dig up and older version and see how things work then. Thanks for the help, Norbert. On Sunday 08 February 2004 06:24 am, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: > >>If I unplug the Orinoco and plug into the network viat cat5e, playback is > >>perfect, no drop outs or any problems... > > I would say it's because of WLAN bad connection/signal quality, > Lets check it by this command: > > root# ping -f -c1 -s1400 IP_of_mp3_server > > Lost/dupplicated packages count and time delays > should tell u a lot. > > noro > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:57am up 130 days, 15:50, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge wants to downgrade Alsa.
On Sunday 08 February 2004 05:25 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > I use the -D to keep dependencies updated. I'd use the -U if it worked. > However, even with the -u there should be a way to tell portage to not > try and downgrade it since Alsa-libs is installed. > > I've looked at other posts and tried things they've mentioned like > making sure I do the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS emerge packagename or > > >=media-libs/package name and I've tried package.unmask which I thought > > was supposed to do tell portage to treat this as if it's unmasked and > solve the problem > > So my question remains - a) can I tell portage to realize that the alsa > stuff I have installed is okay - is it possible and b) how do I get -U > to work also. > I know I'll get flamed for this... but in my humble opinion portage has some serious bugs in it still. Along with your malfunctioning -U switch, I've seen any number of odd behavours from it. Seeing all the increments in the portage tree, maybe this will all be fixed one day soon. That aside, I just "emerge -i " the offending ebuild and I'm never bothered for it again... Untill the next broken ebuild is tossed into portage, that is.. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:34pm up 130 days, 21:27, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge wants to downgrade Alsa.
I don't know about the rest of us, but the last thing I want to do is feed extra switches into emerge each time I do an update. Shame emerge can't keep track of previous switches and offer to use them again during future updates... Nah! Just inject the sucker and forget about it On Monday 09 February 2004 01:52 pm, William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Bret, > > take a look at man portage. > > You might want to use /etc/portage/package.keywords. > > William > > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:12:29PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > I thought about -i but would like to find another way - if there is one. > > Maybe portage-ng will fix a lot of this. > > > > Jerry McBride wrote: > > >On Sunday 08 February 2004 05:25 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > >>I use the -D to keep dependencies updated. I'd use the -U if it > > >> worked. So my question remains - a) can I tell portage to realize that > > >> the alsa stuff I have installed is okay - is it possible and b) how do > > >> I get -U to work also. > > > > > >I know I'll get flamed for this... but in my humble opinion portage has > > >some serious bugs in it still. Along with your malfunctioning -U switch, > > >I've seen any number of odd behavours from it. Seeing all the > > > increments in the portage tree, maybe this will all be fixed one day > > > soon. That aside, I just "emerge -i " the offending ebuild and I'm > > > never bothered for it again... Untill the next broken ebuild is tossed > > > into portage, that is.. > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:08pm up 131 days, 18:01, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)
Nope. That's one of "those features" that I'd like to see dissappear also... On Monday 09 February 2004 04:03 pm, Tianran Chen wrote: > i notice that every time it startup, the dependency of services are scaned > and checked, which take about 2~3 seconds. i wonder is this a step that > can be cut off? also, is /etc/init.d/modules neccesary? > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my > > | goal. thanks for any idea! > > > > *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW *** > > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In > > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops > > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the > > tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O). > > > > These settings are quite possibly broken. > > *** END HACK *** > > > > Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk > > you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of > > the patches from the -tiny tree. > > > > -- > > Ciaran McCreesh > > Mail:ciaranm at gentoo.org > > Web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:56pm up 131 days, 20:49, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)
On Monday 09 February 2004 03:32 pm, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In > > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops > > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). > > I tried that last year on my GENTOO/Linux laptop and noticed no effect. > > BTW: Does anyone know how far Seth's SystemServices (replace init with > Python scripts) project has progressed? Use python for boot scripts? Sounds neat but I bet it would be as slow or slower than what we have now... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:57pm up 131 days, 20:50, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:55 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:44:03 -0500 (EST) Tianran Chen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my > | goal. thanks for any idea! > > *** WARNING: UNSUPPORTED HACK BELOW *** > Edit /etc/conf.d/rc and screw around with some of the settings. In > particular, RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP will probably be a benefit on laptops > (lots of CPU and terrible I/O). You may also gain from (ab)using the > tmpfs settings (again, sucky I/O). > > These settings are quite possibly broken. > *** END HACK *** > > Also, aim for a nice small kernel without modules. Cut out all the junk > you don't use, look at the embedded options and maybe consider some of > the patches from the -tiny tree. been there...done that...bought the T-shirt. The fact is... all of that stuff has little or no impact on boot performance. Sooner or later you'll want to use those resources that you eliminated during bootup and end up waiting for them to startup anyways... If would could just eliminate the caching non-sense that gentoo insists on doing, each and every boot up... then we'd have accomplished something. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:58pm up 131 days, 20:51, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to make gentoo boot faster? (kernel 2.6.1)
On Monday 09 February 2004 02:44 pm, Tianran Chen wrote: > hi all, > > i am using a laptop, so i reboot very frequently. i have been tried to > make the booting process faster for a long time. right now, i had done > following reduction on my system: > > 1) NO X at all (use emacs and links in framebuffer). > 2) no modules at all, everything in kernel. > 3) no network, cron. > > with these reductions i lower the booting time to 19s with kernel 2.4.22. > however, with kernel 2.6.1 now it took more than 25s to boot, partially > due to hotplug and alsa. > > is there anything i can do to make it even faster? 10s will be my goal. > thanks for any idea! > I've done similar things and also did the following... I dumped devfs and hotplug. I turned off all the daemons that start stuff at boot time that I really don't need started at boot time like ntd, consolefonts, samba, pcmcia, etc It'll boot a bit faster that way, but you won't make any great gains as sooner or later you'll be starting them up anyway -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:01pm up 131 days, 20:54, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.3 and Orinoco Patched Drivers
On Thursday 12 February 2004 03:21 am, Mark Huson wrote: > Hello, > I am running gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.3 but am looking to be able to get my > wireless card into promiscus mode. The only way to do this with an Orinoco > card is to use the patched drivers. I have search for a couple hours now > and have yet to find a fix. I did see that some developer made a patch for > the 2.6.0 kernel but i am not sure this would work for me. Any ideas on > where i can get a patch for my kerenel? > > The orinoco driver in 2.6.3 is STILL at the 0.13e version level. Just grab the patch, edit the paths in the patch and then apply it. Works for me... :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:24pm up 134 days, 21:17, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC...
On Monday 10 January 2005 10:19 am, Dave Nebinger wrote: > Hey, all. I've got two working gentoo systems built from the 2004.02 live > cd. Following the instructions in the handbook, the systems were > constructed with gcc 3.3.4 as the base. > > The 3.4.x chain of gcc is out there in portage, and I am now curious as to > whether to upgrade gcc and what steps to take to complete it... > > For the most part I'm guessing it would be a matter of: > > 1. Use emerge to update gcc to a 3.4 version. > 2. Use gcc-config to target the new version as the default. > 3. Use emerge to update glibc and binutils. > 4. Use emerge to rebuild the world. > > I remember from the handbook I had to create a new link for > /etc/make.profile; do I need to do that again for a 3.4 chain, and what one > would I use? > > Are there valid reasons to or not to do this upgrade? > I found a few programs that failed to build with the 3.4.x tree... maybe differnet NOW, but I'll wait to hear back from you. Also, once you upgrade to gcc 3.4.x and compile a few critical things, you maynot be able to go back to gcc 3.3.x without a load of hassle Personally, I'll wait till the gcc 3.4.x tree gets an official blessing from the gentoo defv group, before I jump into those waters... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 10:48am up 92 days, 18:34, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.15, 0.10 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Prism Orinico on 2.6 kernel
On Friday 14 January 2005 03:19 am, Scott Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 18:28 -0600, Kurt Guenther wrote: > > However, I'm not sure how to take it from here. Shouldn't it show up as > > a network device? There talk of a: > > > > /etc/conf.d/wireless > > That first became available with baselayout-1.11.* which I think are all > still keyworded with ~arch. etc/conf.d/net and etc/conf.d/wireless are > much more flexible than they were in any version prior to 1.11 > Scott, I tried the later baselayout builds on a Compaq that I work with and I was totally unable to get wifi working on it. The access points I log into don't broadcast their sid... invisible as it were... Try as I may, it never ever worked. Is there a detailed how-to for the new baselayout in regards to wifi? If so, I'll have a nother look at it. Thanks in advance. Jerry -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 6:00pm up 97 days, 1:46, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Enemy Territory / Punkbuster issues
On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:14 pm, fire-eyes wrote: > I'm having issues with punkbuster in Enemy Territory. It tells me to > enable it, i push the button, try to reconnect to a server that needs > it, yet I still get told I have to enable it. Click enable, repeat... > > This annoys me because punkbuster acting up every day was why I removed > quake3... *sigh* I turned it off in quake... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Counters?
Would anyone be willing to recommend a "friendly" web page visit counter? I'm looking for a remote counter service that doesn't push popups and maybe sponsor links. On the other hand, a sponsor link would be agreeable if it's for a good use or cause Any tips? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:45am up 99 days, 17:31, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Bug 78401] New: dev-php/mod_php-4.3.10 build failed.
On Monday 17 January 2005 03:29 pm, Kurt Guenther wrote: > Does anybody know why the mod_php build would fail? > ---snip --- Yeah, you using gcc 3.3.5 to compile the source while the .la files are pointing to non-existant 3.3.4 compiler... You need to run fix_libtool_files.sh... See bugs.gentoo.org for the exact command -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 3:28pm up 99 days, 23:14, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt bug???
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 06:15 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote: > I don't know if this is a bug in Qt or not. I re-emerged qt-3.3.3 last > night to have it install the documentation. Now the HTML docs are > installed. I've been giving my wife C++ lessons in our spare time, and > I thought she might enjoy doing some GUI stuff. Man... i've heard it all now. :') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 7:42pm up 101 days, 3:28, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SVGALIB_HELPER fixup...
I've been trying to play around with the demos that are packaged in the svgalib sources, but up untill today, it's been problematic. The show stopper for me was, even though I'm able to modprobe svgalib_helper, the demos fail with "missing /dev/svga" devices, etc... After much hair pulling, I remember something I read along time ago... "remember the sources"... A few moments into the svgalib archive I now have this script that creates the /dev/svga* devices. Posted here, to save someone else from self induced bald spots... :') rm -f /dev/svgalib_helper* rm -f /dev/svga rm -f /dev/svga? mknod -m 666 /dev/svga c 209 0 mknod -m 666 /dev/svga1 c 209 1 mknod -m 666 /dev/svga2 c 209 2 mknod -m 666 /dev/svga4 c 209 4 Have fun. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SVGALIB_HELPER fixup...
On Sunday 23 January 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Drake wrote: > Jerry McBride wrote: > > After much hair pulling, I remember something I read along time ago... > > "remember the sources"... A few moments into the svgalib archive I now > > have this script that creates the /dev/svga* devices. > > Alternatively, just emerge sync and update to the latest svgalib revision > (1.9.19-r3). This works with both udev and devfs. Shoot me if it doesn't :) > I won't shoot you, but the difference may be that I don't use devfs or udev on any of my gentoo projects. That aside, there's virually no documentaion, anywhere, that tells you how to make the needed devices. Quite odd too. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 6:31pm up 106 days, 2:17, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SVGALIB_HELPER fixup...
On Sunday 23 January 2005 07:01 pm, Daniel Drake wrote: > Jerry McBride wrote: > > I won't shoot you, but the difference may be that I don't use devfs or > > udev on any of my gentoo projects. > > Gentoo defaults to devfs and provides udev as an option. So for 99.9% of > users this is automatically done. I guess there are still some who live > with a static /dev though... > > > That aside, there's virually no documentaion, anywhere, that tells you > > how to make the needed devices. Quite odd too. > > Probably because they expect you to be running a /dev manager, and > realistically most people are. If you aren't, then its perfectly expected > that you need to make the device nodes for non-standard kernel modules the > first time you use them. > > Svgalib has been out since before devfs or udev Doesn't it seem odd that there's little to no documentation on making the device nodes to use it? In fact, the nodes aren't even in MAKEDEV. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 7:04pm up 106 days, 2:50, 8 users, load average: 0.09, 0.13, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 32BIT/64BIT
On Saturday 29 January 2005 02:21 pm, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:30, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 January 2005 07:09, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > > On a local lug, a statement was made that not a lot of 64 bit software
> > > is available for the amd chips yet. With gentoo at least, isnt this
> > > largely untrue: if you have the arch set correctly, are you not
> > > building 64 bit software, and only 32 bit where 32 bit specific
> > > instructions are specified???
> >
> > You are right.
>
> In general, open-source code is more likely to work in both 64-bit and
> 32-bit environments. Of course, if you are downloading binaries, most
> providers are still going to be shipping i586, or even i386, binaries.
> Those are, of course, 64-bit. With gentoo, everything is compiled so you
> get 64-bit by default. [I don't actually know what/how to compile 32-bit
> on amd64, since I'm still running intel chips.]
>
> More are more code is getting 64-bit clean. Unfortunately, compatability
> (even writing to standards) are not given high priority when programming is
> taught so you end up with some programms that don't even know the issues
> below are issues.
>
> > There is a small problem, though. Many developers (I am not talking about
> > the gentoo developers but those of the original software) make
> > assumptions which are true on 32-bit systems only. Like sizeof( int ) ==
> > sizeof( void * ) or such. Or they assume that long has a certain size
> > while the C/C++ standards only specify:
> > 16 bit <= short <= int <= long <= long long
>
> Actually, it also specifies 32-bit <= long <= long long, but the point is
> that many many C programs are written with different assumptions.
>
> [Also, it should be noted, that the C standard doesn't specify that actual
> storage is in contiguous 2's complement binary digits -- it just specifies
> the behavior of the operators (which will always seem to work on contigious
> 2's-complement binary digits) and the ranges covered by the data types.]
>
> [For example, if there was some good reason for computing to switch to a
> trinary system, or some other base for storage, C would work, it would just
> be very slow (since all the operators would no longer closely correspond to
> assembly code).]
>
> > Such software will compile (probably with a bunch of warnings) but won't
> > run properly. Fortunately, this becomes rarer nowadays.
>
> Another problem that you may run into is compatibility. From what I
> understand, 32-bit binaries can use on an amd system unmodified (at least
> in theory). Unfortunately, a 32-bit program using a 64-bit library (or
> vice-versa) might not work.
>
> Specifically, if the library declares a type like:
>
> typedef struct Vector_t {
> void * data;
> size_t length;
> } Vector;
>
> Then the offset of length is 8 in 64-bit code and 4 in 32-bit code. If
> both 32-bit code and 64-code attempt to manipulate the length member
> directly, all heck will break lose (either the 32-bit code will be mucking
> the in pointer or the 64-bit code will be writing off the end of the
> struct, depending on who allocated it).
>
> If the library is properly designed (so that all access to structure
> members are through calls into the library code) *AND* the program is not
> designed poorly (using pointer tricks to access library private data
> [sometimes this is wanted as a work-around for some flaw in the library]),
> then all is good and the 32-bit and 64-bit code will agree. Unfortunately,
> this isn't always the case.
>
> [Of course, if your structs/unions never hold pointers or nothing after
> (and including) the first pointer is accesses outside the library, no
> problems mate!]
>
> It isn't entirely uncommon for C libraries to allow direct access to at
> least some of their struct's members (since providing acessors and mutators
> is so mind numbing and using them is so long-winded), so this bug will bite
> a lot of programs.
>
> So, if you have a single program that either won't compile in 64-bits or
> crashes in 64-bit mode, so that you want to use it in 32-bit mode, make
> sure all it's [DEEP] dependencies are 32-bit too, or you may cause more
> problems than you solve.
>
> It should be noted that the compatibility issue can arrise even when both
> pieces of code are written exactly to the C standard. [Of course, if both
> are written exactly to the standard, you should be able to make sure they
> are both compiled with the same bit-ness.]
>
> --
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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/lib/libjpeg.la problems
On Saturday 29 January 2005 03:48 pm, Vittorio wrote: > Alle 12:39, sabato 29 gennaio 2005, Jason Stubbs ha scritto: > > On Saturday 29 January 2005 22:22, Vittorio wrote: > > > During the compilation of the latest koffice 1.3.5 the following error > > > (see below) pops up saying that it is not possible to find the > > > /usr/lib/libjpeg.la library which instead, needless to say, is there. > > > > > > Disorientated I had tried to fix the libraries directories using the > > > latest "fix_libtool_files.sh" to no avail. > > > > > > What shall I do? > > > > > > Vittorio > > > > > > libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/libjpeg.la' seems to be moved Does /usr/lib/libjpeg.la actually exist? If not, emerge jpeg one more time and try koffice again -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 2:48pm up 111 days, 22:34, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC path...
Are there specific steps that have to be followed when upgrading from gcc-3.3.x to say gcc 3.4.3? I've been doing little tests with 3.4.3 ever since it appeared in portage and I think I'm ready to try to compile an entire system with it So... is it as easy as emerge -e world? My reason for asking is, it appears that modules and apps compiled with 3.4.3 will sometimes not work with modules and apps compiled under 3.3.5... Any suggestions, before I dive into this, would be appreciated. Thanks. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:46pm up 121 days, 5:32, 8 users, load average: 0.13, 0.15, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading GCC path...
On Tuesday 08 February 2005 09:28 am, Matthew Cline wrote: > > >Are there specific steps that have to be followed when upgrading from > > >gcc-3.3.x to say gcc 3.4.3? > > You might also want to check out the "fix_libtool_files.sh" script. I > ran into some problems when I upgraded to 3.4.3, and this fixed them. > Also check out: > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73435 > Thanks Matt. I know all about "the script"... :'). I've been through this one on previous 3.4.3 adventures... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 8:26pm up 122 days, 4:12, 8 users, load average: 0.09, 0.13, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G'day All; > > I'm in the process of buying a new PC and I'm thinking of going with an > AMD64, but it's been about 6 years since my last hardware purchase :-) > so a bit of friendly advice is most welcome. This is what I'm thinking > of getting... > > AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU > Epox 8KDA3J Motherboard > Liteon DVD+-RW SOHW 1653S02C > 120G Western Digital SATA HD (might get two and go RAID but I probably > don't need it) > nVidia GeForce FX5500 > > I know the video card is dated but I'm not gamer and mostly happy with > the nVidia TNT2 I have at the moment, so I don't see the need for > anything better (unless there any horrible compatibilty issues with it) > > Any advice or comments extremely welcome. > Joel... depending on what you are upgrading from... your new machine will probably blow your socks off... As for the sata hardware, I've no practical experience. Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 7:44pm up 123 days, 3:30, 8 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Krecipes ebuild
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 09:35 pm, Chris wrote: > Is there an ebuild for krecipes? Emerge search krecipes nope... Google... krecipes ebuild nope... Wow! I'm tired. No ebuilds for krecipes -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:16pm up 50 days, 2:09, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.6.0 question
During kernel config, under "processor type and features" I'm offfered a selection called "generic x86 support". The help/info for that selection is awful vague to me. Can anyone clarify it's purpose and when should it be ticked off during kernel configuration? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:47pm up 52 days, 23:40, 7 users, load average: 0.20, 0.10, 0.08 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mm-sources problems....
I've been deploying the 2.6.0 mm-sources in gentoo 1.4 on a small number of laptops that I admin and I've come into a serious problem using the latter test versions. Up to and including 2.6.0-test9-mm2 things have been running perfectly. However, as of 2.6.0-test9-mm4 up to 2.6.0-test10-mm1 I've got a serious issue with the compiled kernels. It seems the latter versions of the mm-sources aren't mounting the root partitions in read write mode, even though mount shows it as being mounted rw... Quite disturbing. This is turning up on 6 laptops of various brand and architecture. What happens when I boot into one of the offending kernels, the boot process begins as normal, however root isn't mounted in read/write mode. Since the processes being started up can't write to the hard drive, they fail. If I want to get things back to normal, I have to wait till the login prompt, then login and remount root in rw mode. Once done, I can restart those processes that failed to startup and preocede as normal. I can get it all to work ok that way, but something is very amiss in the 2.6.0-test9-mm4 and later sources.. If I take the vanilla (virgin) code off of kernel.org, they will compile and boot as expected sans the mm-patches. No problems with root being mounted in rw... So it's NOT in the kernel source code. I can compile the 2.6.0-mm2 source over and over on the boxes demonstraiting the mount problem and never have a problem with that version of the mm-patch level... And later versions compile ok, but fail to boot as expected. So, is anyone else seeing anything amiss in the later mm-sources? Or am I alone in this one? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Syntax error in eutils.eclass
Had a syntax error turn up in /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass tuesday
morning when emergeing the latest mm-sources...
Down around line 977... it's missing ";;" in a case structure that evaluates
bzip's... Why this hasn't turned up before is a puzzle...
So far, it's turned up on three gentoo boxes...
For the newbies, here's what the FIXED case block looks like:
case ${filetype} in
*tar\ archive)
tail -n +${skip} ${src} | tar -xf -
;;
bzip2*)
tail -n +${skip} ${src} | bzip2 -dc | tar -xf -
;;
gzip*)
tail -n +${skip} ${src} | tar -xzf -
;;
*)
false
;;
esac
P.S. Running the latest versions of everything on my gentoos...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax error in eutils.eclass
On Friday 28 November 2003 11:31 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:19:34 -0500 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | Had a syntax error turn up in /usr/portage/eclass/eutils.eclass > | tuesday morning when emergeing the latest mm-sources... > > This was fixed in cvs pretty quickly. Running 'emerge sync' should fix > this. That is good to know, thank you. Would you happen to know if any work has been done to checkroot to get it to correctly remount the root filesystem as rw when running 2.6.0-test9-mm4 or later kernel sources? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:00am up 58 days, 15:53, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot telnet to Gentoo box... how do I get this to go?
On Friday 28 November 2003 08:22 pm, Murray Shields wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I cannot telnet into my Gentoo box from a remote machine ("connection
> refused"). It's a machine on my local lan protected from the world by a
> firewall on a separate gateway machine, so security is somewhat of a
> non-issue.
>
> I installed netkit-telnetd but still no joy.. Do I need to activate it
> somehow?
>
> Or am I barking up th wrong tree?
>
Telneting into a gentoo box is easy. On the server end, make sure xinetd is up
and running. Make sure it's enabled at boot time with: rc-update add xinetd
default. If you had to do that, then start the dameon with /etc/init.d/xinetd
start.
Have a peek at /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd. That file, telnetd, has to be there and
is installed when netkit-telnetd is emerged.
While at the server, if you want to provide telnet access to root logins, move
down to /etc/pam.d and edit the file named login and remark out this line:
#auth required/lib/security/pam_securetty.so
Once done, you may have to stop and restart /etc/init.d/xinetd if you've
changed anything in /etc/xinetd.d. Now try to login to your newly opened
server.
Take note, DO NOT use telnet across your firewall or oterwise on an
unprotected network. If you do, you are really, really asking for problems.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot telnet to Gentoo box... how do I get this to go?
On Saturday 29 November 2003 07:41 am, Murray Shields wrote: > Thanks to all who responded to my questions - it is now working a treat. ---SNIP--- Now that it's all fresh in your mind (obviously not in mine) why don't you write up a step-by-step guide for us and have it posted to the s-x-s website at http://smtp.linux-sxs.org? Thank you. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 12:03pm up 59 days, 16:56, 7 users, load average: 0.12, 0.14, 0.06 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd crashes
On Saturday 29 November 2003 05:28 pm, Marshal Newrock wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > Thanks for the help so far... the box crashed again after about 3.5 > > hrs. Top and ps aux show nothing of help. Does anyone have any idea > > of how else I can track this down? > > In a word, memtest86. Thank you... If you don't test the memory first, everything else you do could be wasted time... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:49pm up 59 days, 21:42, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd crashes
On Saturday 29 November 2003 07:00 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > Maybe your CPU fan got dusty. > Try clean it and get cpuburn. If your computer does not survives hours of > cpuburn, it is a sign for a inadequate cooling or a dying PSU. > If your computer locks up, while doing PSU stressing things (like a lot of > harddisk accesses), I would try and change that. Additionally cleaning all > fans and the contacts of memory&pci cards is not a bad idea, some oxide > there, accumulated the last month, may be responsible for the funniest > types of errors. > > All good tips. I had similar problems with a computer one of the salesmen brought in from home and used as his dekstop. The thing would die or reboot with the drop of a hat... Turned out the powersupply was so inadequate that it was running balls to the wall just to boot the box up in the morning... swapped out an old 143 watt x-brand for a 400 watt antec (in an amd athlon box) and the problems went away magically... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:28pm up 59 days, 23:21, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Quake2 sound
On Saturday 29 November 2003 10:24 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > Nope, no kde - just xfce . But thanks anyway. > > On Saturday 29 November 2003 22:02, you wrote: > > On Sunday 30 November 2003 2:58 am, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > > > I've run into a problem with Quake2 sound. > > > > I too had no sound with alsa and kde..it was arts hogging /dev/dsp so i > > have to start quake with artdsp wrapper... > > i spose if you dont use kde then ignore this :D > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I've dumped devfs on my quake3 arena box just for this very reason. I hated what it did to sound setup. Try this... rm the /dev/dsp link and : ln -s /dev/adsp /dev/dsp Helped me, quite a bit. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:44pm up 60 days, 2:37, 7 users, load average: 0.31, 0.20, 0.18 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 problem in 2.6.0test10&11 kernels
On Friday 05 December 2003 07:55 pm, Simon Mushi wrote: > Hey people, > > So I finally managed to compile and boot up my 2.6.0-test11-r1 > gentoo-sources...set up nvidia drivers and my 2 sound cards and it all ran > fine for about 20 minutes when for some reason I realised that my ext3 > based root partition was now read-only...kinda strange I had an emerge > process that crashed on some crazy error and I could not create a new > directory. This happened time and time again, I would be fine for about 20 > minutes before the kernel raised a "ext3-fs error in start_transaction: > Journal has aborted" and all my file systems became read-only and I had to > reboot. > > Funny thing is when I boot into my old 2.4.20-r5 kernel...it is as if > nothing at all happened...my system runs fine...I took the pains to try > out 2.6.0.10-test10-mm sources and same thing happened. > > Does anyone have idea as to what I can do? Is 2.6 for me? > I've had the exact same problems with the mm-sources starting with test9-mm4 to the current mm patchset. My fix was to stop using mm-sources until I can convince Andrew Morton that there a problem in the patches. The latest 2.6.0-test11 sources has the basics of what I need all ready in it anyways. It's not just ext3, it's whatever you use on root that get's mounted read-only. The really odd thing is, under /proc/mount it clearly shows that root is mounted . The way to fix this, after booting, is remount the root partition with: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 / -o remount,rw Remember you should alter this command to fit your particular setup. As a side note, the last, working mm-sources was 2.6.0-test9-mm2. Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:25am up 66 days, 16:18, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 problem in 2.6.0test10&11 kernels
On Saturday 06 December 2003 07:46 am, Simon Mushi wrote: > Jerry, > > Thanks for teh response...at least I am a bit more sure that me or my > machine isn;t totally crazy as one friend who had gone to 2.6.0 in a > breeze was claiming. Well... it is a breeze... But having everything running perfectly isn't always as easy or guarenteed. What your friend has done to you is called, "dumping". He/she dumps on you in order to make him/her self fell better, more superior. It usually comes from people that are weak in th ego and limp in the libido. Not a real good friend in my book. If his/her installation was so easy and perfect then they should know the answer to your problems, right? They haven't a clue... The fact is, the 2.6.0 kernel source is beta. That means that there's going to be problems with using it on some machines. In fact, the kernel website doesn't even guarentee it to even compile. > I guess I'll just scan the messaage boards for any other ppl with related > problems and otherwise sit tight till the final release is made...I;m not > in a big hurry 2.4 is still doing me fine. > If you find an answer, post it here. I'm sure to welcome the message. My reason for going to the mm-sources in 2.6.0, is that it is more full featured. It had crypto-loop and synaptic support built/patched into the kernel sources for me... no extra steps involved and a lot less head ache. The later version of the vanilla 2.6.0 source, test 11 for instance, support synaptic touch pads percfectly, thus for me I don't really need the mm-sources anymore. But it woild be interesting if I could use them. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 12:26pm up 66 days, 17:19, 7 users, load average: 0.26, 0.17, 0.10 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LAN performance issues
On Saturday 06 December 2003 03:28 pm, Matt Garman wrote: > I have a 100/10 Mbps home LAN whose performance is considerably less > than capable. The setup is as follows: > > - OpenBSD server with two PCI NICs (a D-Link and a Linksys). > One NIC connects to the Internet, the other connects to the > LAN. (This machine provides the firewall/gateway/NAT > functions.) > - A Linksys "Etherfast Dual-Speed 5-Port Workgroup Switch" > - My Linux workstation. It's using an onboard 3Com 3c59x NIC > (Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard) > - My roomate's Win2k box. Also has a Linksys 100/10 PCI NIC. > > The best LAN transfer speeds I can get are around 230 KB/s. This is > between Linux and OpenBSD as well as Win2k and OpenBSD. Interestingly, > between Linux and Win2k, the speed is about half that: 130 KB/s. > > The Linux NIC & driver appears to be functioning correctly; I checked > its operation with mii-diag and vortex-diag [1]. I'm not aware of > OpenBSD NIC diagnostic tools, so I don't know how to check those NICs as > extensively. But all three NICs (two in BSD + one in Linux) are > operating in full-duplex 100baseTX mode. > > All my cables are CAT5e UTP. Just to be sure, I bought new cables. > Transfer speeds did not improve. > > I tried using a cross-over cable between OpenBSD and Linux. No > improvement. > > I also tried switching the roles of the BSD NICs (i.e. Internet NIC > became DSL NIC and vice-versa). No change in transfer speeds. > > Short of phsically moving NICs around, I'm not sure how to futher > diagnose the problem. > > Anyone have any ideas, thoughts, hints, suggestions, etc? > How's the data throughput of your hard drives? If it's low, having a fast network won't make getting data off or onto the hard drives any faster. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:02pm up 66 days, 19:55, 7 users, load average: 0.06, 0.06, 0.06 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LAN performance issues
On Saturday 06 December 2003 04:14 pm, Mike Arrison wrote: > > On Saturday 06 December 2003 03:28 pm, Matt Garman wrote: > > How's the data throughput of your hard drives? If it's low, having a fast > > network won't make getting data off or onto the hard drives any faster. > > This doesn't sound right to me. The slowest hard drives, with the worst > settings, under the worst circumstances, will still beat 230KB/s by an > order of magnitude. And good hard drives will beat it by two orders of > magnitude. > > How about the switch as the weak link? Have you tried a crossover cable > to directly connect two of the boxes? > > -Mike Arrison I've seen some real piss poor linux installs in my time and soem of them were implemented as servers. You gotta' remember, that most default installs are very conservative. Drive throughput does impact network throughput. Simply enabling dma via hdparm can do wonders for network responce. One other thing I'm waiting to hear... how's the network configed? You using NFS, SAMBA, AFS, etc? Let's hear some more details. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 3:44pm up 66 days, 20:37, 7 users, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.04 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ripping music cd to mp3
On Sunday 07 December 2003 11:35 pm, Tom Hosiawa wrote: > After doing some googling, I know I can't mount a music cd. > > So if I want to rip the songs of the cd to mp3's with a program like > lame, how do I tell it where the input wav file is? Or is there some > better way to ripping music cd's? > > Tom > Hi Tom, I use cdparanoia for ripping tracks off a music cd and then convert the resultant .wav to mp3 with either lame or gogo. If you happen o build up a decent .mp3 library it wouldn't hurt to run normalize inplace of lame/gogo only... that way your .mp3 all have about the same volume level... Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:32pm up 68 days, 4:25, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 Kernels Sugesstions/Recomendations
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 10:53 am, Paul Varner wrote: > All: > > Since I'm working on my kernelmod-rebuild script, I need to play with a 2.6 > kernel. I know that I will get many different opinions, but which 2.6 > kernel in the portage tree do you prefer and why? Basically, I'm trying to > decide which one will probably be the easiest to get up and running with > out a lot of troubleshooting. Below is the output for lshw on my main > development machine. > The most recent, 2.6.0-test11. It all works, no patches needed. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:43pm up 69 days, 21:36, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Scripts don't die...
I've noticed of late... If during the boot process the runtime script /etc/init.d/gnump3d is started and sometime during the session I don't need it I can manually issue the command; /etc/init.d/gnump3d stop and the actual daemon will die as expected. However, if I atempt to restart it duing the same session with: /etc/init.d/gnump3d start gentoo complains that it's already running... What flag file isn't being deleted and how do I fix it or whom do I notify to get it fixed? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:45pm up 69 days, 21:38, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Scripts don't die...
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 06:48 pm, Renat Golubchyk wrote: > On Tuesday 09 December 2003 23:36, Jerry McBride wrote: > > If during the boot process the runtime script /etc/init.d/gnump3d is > > started and sometime during the session I don't need it I can > > manually issue the command; /etc/init.d/gnump3d stop and the actual > > daemon will die as expected. However, if I atempt to restart it duing the > > same session with: /etc/init.d/gnump3d start gentoo complains that > > it's already running... > > > > What flag file isn't being deleted and how do I fix it or whom do I > > notify to get it fixed? > > There is probably a stale pidfile. Just run "/etc/init.d/gnump3d zap" and > the state of the service will be resetted. After that you can start it with > "/etc/init.d/gnump3d start". > > That works. Thanks. But why do state files go stale if I am legitimately stopping the daemon? Thanks again. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:41pm up 69 days, 23:34, 7 users, load average: 0.04, 0.09, 0.09 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
On Thursday 11 December 2003 12:37 pm, brett holcomb wrote: > I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows > and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to > see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux > sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and > noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages > and disadvantages of each. > NFS is a natural in Linux. We ran it for a few years, but eventually went samba. Our reasonig was Samba is much faster and windows NFS clients are all pretty much very exppensive and never really did justice to the NFS filesystem. As for AFS or OpenAFS, I'd really love to set one of these up someday and wring it out, but there simply is no time for that stuff anymore. I can't wait to see if anyone else here has better insight. Cheers. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:08pm up 72 days, 1:01, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NPTL -- how to start using it?
On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:07 pm, N. Owen Gunden wrote: > I'd like to start using NPTL for at least wine, with hopes of seeing > performance enhancement. > > As I understand it, here's what I need to do: > > - Install kernel 2.6.0-test11 > - Set the nptl USE flag > - emerge glibc (2.3.2 ok?) > - emerge wine > > I read somewhere that I should use GCC 3.3 (I'm using 3.2.3). Is there > any truth to this? Is there any reason /not/ to upgrade GCC? > > Do I need to re-emerge anything else? > You should also emerge modutils and perhaps binutils also. Be aware, once you enabe nptl in glibc, you'll never be able to run a kernel other than 2.6.0. That said, I've noticed some real improvements in the way that my nptl test box runs. Namely KDE, mysql, etc. Cheers. ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:21am up 75 days, 11:14, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can`t emerge glibc-2.3.3_prexxxx
Forgive my top-posting... First, point /usr/src/linux to the 2.6.0 kernel sources that you have. Second, if you do this, you won't be able to boot any kernel other than 2.6.0 kernels. Good luck. On Thursday 18 December 2003 06:40 pm, Makurin Roman wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > When I try to execute >#USE="nptl" emerge glibc > I`ve got ambiguous error: > > * Checking for sufficient version kernel headers ... no > > * Could not find a kernel source tree or headers with > * version 2.6.0 or later! Please correct this > * and try again. > > in /usr/src linux->linux-2.6.0-test11-gentoo-r2 > sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1 > sys-devel/gcc-3.3.2-r4 > > How can i fix it > > > P.S.: Sorry for my poor english ;-). > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/4jr1ufAZCWBpz4kRAhwNAJ9X70wNbxO4wizQvV7Ok0qfZJDBiQCfWZUp > Dz+lpDmxUD5tt9X65KtxwEM= > =ocd0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 6:25pm up 78 days, 23:18, 7 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic - SCSI
The other thing you could try is turning off hotplug via rc-update. I'd even go as far as turning of devfs and run MAKEDEV and see if your problems come under control then. I had and have serious issuses with devfs with reguards to AMI scsi raid cards and onboard audio using alsa... If you decide to turn off devfs you must pass a parameter to the kernel to make it a clean switch, in your lilo append statement add "gentoo=nodevfs" before you reboot. On Tuesday 23 December 2003 08:16 pm, Leonard, Phil wrote: > >>Just installed gentoo stage3 on an IBM Netfinity 4000R and I'm getting > >> the following kernel panic when I try to boot. >This is my first > >> attempt at installing gentoo. What have I done wrong? > >> > >>> Partition check: > >> > >>/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 > >> Detected aic7xxx hardware > >> Scanning for aic7xxx_old...PCI: Enabling device > >> 02:0f.0 (0116 -> 0117) (scsi1) >> adapter> found at PCI 2/15/0 (scsi1) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 > >> SCBs > >> (scsi1) Cables present (Int-50 NO, Int-68 YES, Ext-68 NO) > >> (scsi1) Downloading sequencer code... 436 instructions > >> downloaded scsi1 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) > >> 5.2.4/5.2.0 scsi0: Spurious > >> SCSI interrupt > >> scsi0: Spurious SCSI interrupt > >> scsi0: Spurious SCSI interrupt > >> scsi0:A:10:255 Attempt to issue message failed > >> Kernel panic: HOST_MSG_LOOP with invalid SCB 0 > >> > >> In interrupt handler - not syncing > >> > >> > >> Thanks, Philip > > > >Nothing really. I had the same problem (install from stage 1) I was > >fortunate as I didn't need my scsi card to boot with (cdrom and scanner > >are scsi) I removed my scsi card compiled the kernel with aic7xxx built > >in and deselected all other scsi cards in menuconfig. I shut it down, > >replaced the scsi card and booted into my new system. It seems that > >hotplugging is erroniously detectings cards you don't have ie: > >aic7xxx_old, AHA-294x and so on. I had quite a few posts replying saying > >that my kernel was the culprit but that was of no help. Is your scsi > >card builtin or an addon? > > Thanks for the info. In my case the only hard drive in the system is scsi. > The cd-rom is ide. I'll try compiling in the aic7xxx stuff and see if > that helps. The scsi adapter is an addon card. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 8:03pm up 84 days, 56 min, 8 users, load average: 0.77, 0.52, 0.35 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux on a USB Flash Drive?
On Thursday 25 December 2003 01:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Merry Christmas list! > > I'm strutting around the house right now sporting my snazzy new 64MB USB > Flash Drive. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should go about > running a Linux distro off of it? Do I need to be looking at LFS, or are > there special Flash distros floating around out there? > > Thanks, > Merry Cristmas, Doug. I've found DAMN SMALL LINUX or KNOPPIX to work quite well with those devices... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:43pm up 85 days, 18:36, 8 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA and Kernel 2.6.0
On Monday 29 December 2003 03:17 pm, Andrew Westcott wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 08:10, Cristiano Paris wrote: > > Since I use a laptop I'm in the need to have PCMCIA support. Anyway, > > emerging the pcmcia-cs package it keeps saying that it misses something > > in the kernel headers (modversions.h). This file seems to have > > disappeared in 2.6 kernel series but pcmcia-cs keeps complaining. I've > > googled the web but found no clear answer. > > I recently did this and found that I needed to use pcmcia-cs 3.2.5 with > 2.6.0. I had the same problem with modversions.h. Modversion.h is there, it's just in a different place. Either move it physically, cp it or make a symlink... Works for me. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:42pm up 90 days, 2:35, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] devfs problem
On Thursday 01 January 2004 01:34 am, Ben Munat wrote: > Just wanted to follow up in case anyone was wondering. > > I wound up pretty much redoing the install. Everything seems to work > now... so far. And while I was working on the reinstall, it occured to > me what the original problem probably was. When I recompiled the kernel > to add in devfs, I don't think I copied the new System.map over to > /boot. Not sure what System.map does, but I have a feeling it's > important... kind of surprised that I was able to boot at all with the > one from the first compile. Or maybe it was something else... linux is > just so much fun! > > Call me OLD FASHION, but devfs is the first thing I dump after installing gentoo on a new box. The steps I take are; recompile the kernel without devfs support, add "gentoo-nodevfs" to the append line in lilo.conf, correct any defvs associations iin lilo.con and fstab, run lilo, rc-update del devfs and then reboot. Once booted, move to /dev and run MAKEDEV. If you are running alsa, also run snddevices anad add in any symlinks you might need for various applicaitons... Once done, no more devfs MADNESS. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 12:55pm up 92 days, 17:48, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] devfs problem
On Thursday 01 January 2004 05:09 am, Ben Munat wrote: > thanks for taking the time to let me know that... i wunder what the heck > the problem was... > > b > I missed your original post... what problems did you have? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:00pm up 92 days, 17:53, 8 users, load average: 0.18, 0.06, 0.01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: devfs problem
On Thursday 01 January 2004 02:10 pm, Eamon Caddigan wrote: > Wow, that *does* sound easier than dealing with devfs. > You forgot the smiley at the end of your message... Actually, using devfs, udev or static devices should be an install option. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:24pm up 92 days, 18:17, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI install / Portage-browser
On Friday 02 January 2004 02:45 pm, Mickey Mullin wrote: > Drake Wyrm wrote: > > Even power-users could get some use out of a GUI. It would be a great way > > to browse through all the metadata stored in the Portage tree and > > Portage-related databases. > > Take a look at kportage. > > http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-portage;name=kportage > > I loved kportage but it's unmaintained and quite broken now -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 2:05pm up 93 days, 18:58, 8 users, load average: 0.28, 0.11, 0.03 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] accessing a USB memory device
On Friday 02 January 2004 07:39 pm, Bruce E. Harris wrote: > Sorry, wrong line. the correct /etc/mtab is: > > none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 > > I have a USB mouse, and it works just find, just cant figure out how to > access a compact flash card. --snip--- How are you plugging it into your computer? If it's in the pcmcia slot. it has to be accessed via the pcmcia-cs support package as a ide-cs device, if it's going through a USB socket, then you have to use the USB support modules and mounted as a scsi device. Here's how I access both: PCMCIA: Requires ide-cs and I believe yenta-socket, I mount it as an ide device using this fstab entry:/dev/hde /mnt/cfdisk ext2 defaults,noauto 0 0 USB: Requires usbcore, ehci-hcd, usb-storage, sg and vfat for the camera. SB attached harddrive: /dev/sda1 /mnt/hd1ext3defaults,noauto 0 0 USB attached camera: /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera vfat defaults,noauto 0 0 Obviously you'll have to figure out which drivers you need for your usb hardware and linux version. I hope this helps. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:24pm up 94 days, 17 min, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smb mount
On Friday 02 January 2004 07:53 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > /etc/conf.d has local.start and local.stop to do this. It's the > equivalent of the rc.local on other distros. If I remember correctly > this can also go in /etc/fstab. > > Ben Munat wrote: > > I have a default smb share from my windows box that I'd like mounted at > > boot. Should I add the smbmount command to /etc/init.d/samba? I guess if > > I did, I would need to add the mount to start(), the unmount to stop() > > and both to restart()! Or maybe I should write a separate init script? > > Does gentoo have any standard script for running miscellaneous commands > > at startup? > > Brett is right on there. However I've got to voice and opinion here. Mounts should always be listed in fstab. It's just much a much nicer setup... Here's a sample for you... Beware word wrap. //spinner/root /mnt/spinnersmbfs rsize=16384,wsize=16384,soft,credentials=~/samba.spinner,ttl=10,soc_opt=tcp_nodelay,soc_opt=iptos_lowdelay,fmask=644,dmask=755,ip=192.168.0.12,debug=0,workgroup=WORKGROUP,noauto 0 0 -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:39pm up 94 days, 32 min, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
