Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

[375GTB]

Re-install OS-10.4 Tiger ppc

or  hack of 10.5 Leopard ppc

Or some flavor of Linux Ubuntu ppc.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Lacie Govan  wrote:
> >
> > Ok it's running on os x 10.4 tiger and I was able to make it passed the
> password problem I reset it then it went to a welcome screen and asks a few
> questions one of the questions is how do I connect to internet well I only
> have a mobile hotspot and no matter what I select I can't get passed this
> problem. And so sorry I'm completely stupid when it comes to technology.
>
> You may be able to see the mobile hotspot as a WiFi connection, although
> some of the ones I’ve seen require using some sort of client application.
> Your particular hot spot should have come with directions of some sort.
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Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

[Bruce Johnson]

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Lacie Govan  wrote:
> 
> Ok it's running on os x 10.4 tiger and I was able to make it passed the 
> password problem I reset it then it went to a welcome screen and asks a few 
> questions one of the questions is how do I connect to internet well I only 
> have a mobile hotspot and no matter what I select I can't get passed this 
> problem. And so sorry I'm completely stupid when it comes to technology.

You may be able to see the mobile hotspot as a WiFi connection, although some 
of the ones I’ve seen require using some sort of client application. Your 
particular hot spot should have come with directions of some sort.

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Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

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On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Josh Juran wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Will go  wrote:
> 
>> I inherited this imac and tried to get on it but I have no idea what the 
>> password is and the only person who knows the password is no longer with us 
>> is there anything I can do to get passed this or is it just trash now?
> 
> 

You can boot it with any install disc up to 10.4 and maybe 10.5 and use the 
utility menu to change or eliminate password.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

[Lacie Govan]

Ok it's running on os x 10.4 tiger and I was able to make it passed the
password problem I reset it then it went to a welcome screen and asks a few
questions one of the questions is how do I connect to internet well I only
have a mobile hotspot and no matter what I select I can't get passed this
problem. And so sorry I'm completely stupid when it comes to technology.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 11:48 PM Josh Juran  wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Will go  wrote:
>
> > I inherited this imac and tried to get on it but I have no idea what the
> password is and the only person who knows the password is no longer with us
> is there anything I can do to get passed this or is it just trash now?
>
> It would help if you provided some basic information like what operating
> system it's running.  If it happens to be Mac OS X 10.3 "Panther", you may
> be in luck.  If not, I'm sure you can locate the corresponding recipe now
> that you know what to look for.
>
> Reset OS X Panther password without the Install CD
>
> https://miketelahun.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/reset-os-x-panther-password-without-the-install-cd/
>
> Alternatively, you can reinstall the OS.  (I'm assuming you're referring
> to a login password rather than a disk encryption password.)
>
> Josh
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Re: I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

[Josh Juran]

On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Will go  wrote:

> I inherited this imac and tried to get on it but I have no idea what the 
> password is and the only person who knows the password is no longer with us 
> is there anything I can do to get passed this or is it just trash now?

It would help if you provided some basic information like what operating system 
it's running.  If it happens to be Mac OS X 10.3 "Panther", you may be in luck. 
 If not, I'm sure you can locate the corresponding recipe now that you know 
what to look for.

Reset OS X Panther password without the Install CD
https://miketelahun.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/reset-os-x-panther-password-without-the-install-cd/

Alternatively, you can reinstall the OS.  (I'm assuming you're referring to a 
login password rather than a disk encryption password.)

Josh

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I need help with my 2002 imac G4 17" all in one desktop

[Will go]

I inherited this imac and tried to get on it but I have no idea what the 
password is and the only person who knows the password is no longer with us is 
there anything I can do to get passed this or is it just trash now?

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Re: imac 17 inch flat panel spin and freeze spinning will not start please help

[Bruce Johnson]

> On Apr 8, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Johnson  
> wrote:
> 
> If that doesn’t work, press the Command-V keys immediately to see the verbose 
> boot screen

“press the command-V key immediately while starting up”…I meant. Sorry for the 
confusion


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Re: imac 17 inch flat panel spin and freeze spinning will not start please help

[Bruce Johnson]

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Bernard Bailey  wrote:
> 
> Hello I have a imac 17 inch flat panel qt3051nwnhx just spin will not start 
> what can I do to get it to start properly, and thank you.
> 

So all you have is the gray Apple icon and a spinning gear? What version of OS 
X? Will it boot from an OS X installer disk? 

If it does, run Disk Utility to check the hard drive, if it doesn’t boot from 
the installer disk, disconnect everything connected to it (including 
mouse&keyboard) and try. You may have a flaky USB device causing an issue.

If that works, plug in the keyboard and  hold down the shift key while it 
starts, to boot into safe mode. If that works you know the computer is probably 
ok, and i was something that was plugged in, or a some program or device driver 
that was just installed or updated.

If that doesn’t work, press the Command-V keys immediately to see the verbose 
boot screen. A lot of text will flow on the screen, but what we’re interested 
is the line where it stops. That could give an indication of the issue.

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imac 17 inch flat panel spin and freeze spinning will not start please help

[Bernard Bailey]

Hello I have a imac 17 inch flat panel qt3051nwnhx just spin will not start 
what can I do to get it to start properly, and thank you.

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Re: Help

[coverturtle]

Hi all,
This is so very specific that I have not run across this error, so I am
throwing a few things
at the computer.  A potential solution that is quick and dirty is to
reinstall the Leopard.
...
BEFORE you reinstall, make sure the hard drives are OK and that the file
system is correct.
You may end up reinstalling the OS - but you should not lose anything
not already lost. 
However, it may be critical to establish the healthiness of the hard
drive(s) before you do this.
Check the SMART data on the disk using the disk app.  The Smart tests
should show you
something, but if not, check the man page for fsck in the terminal.  You
will want to reboot
into the command line mode before executing fsck if you want this
command to correct
any file system problems.  Run fsck being careful to heed any warnings
the man page or

OTHERWISE, Some simple physical things to do
If it is very dry where you live or if you are in a dry spell, static
electrical charges may have
accumulated in your computer.  To test this, unplug all the connections
and leave the computer
sit overnight.  then in the morning, plug the power cord back into the
computer first, then
just the video, keyboard and mouse.  Test to see if that fixed it. 

If the keyboard and mouse are lacking in function, check the mouse
settings and keyboard settings
of course.  Try using the keyboard to drag and drop.  Also, run a memory
test.

AFAIK, there is no cool way to diagnose this problem except maybe by
running TechTool, of which a gratis
version should be installed on your system with the OS - otherwise it
may be on one of the install
disks if you have those.  However, there is not guarantee that TechTool
will run properly.

Other simple things to check are the external and internal connectors
(USB, hard drives, etc.) and
the proper seating of the memory modules and disk drive cables.  If you
have a bunch of USB cables
unplug all but the keyboard and mouse.  I have had USB problems with my
G5 Powermac.


On 05/17/2016 09:35 AM, davidw1235 via iMac Group wrote:
> I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been
> acting weird. 
> I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders,
> and launch Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.  
> The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before
> it changed each time it started up.
> the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter
> what. and Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
> Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not
> always. 
>
> There are probably some deeper issues going on but I haven't
> encountered them yet. 
>
> Any ideas? 
>
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Re: Help

[davidw1235 via iMac Group]

Thanks Bruce
Im at wiork right now away from my Mac I'll try this when I get home again 
someday.
 
I don't think the problem is the mouse,  but what the heck I have a few extras 
lying around I'll try another one. 
 
Here's somethi ng else Ive noticed... 
   Things don't Save. I typed up something into Stickies and when I looked for 
it it wasn't there. That's after Restarting. Buut nothi ng is saving. Under the 
Apple menu, under Recent Items...it's all the same stuff, no matter what 
programs I open and run, after Restart the computer only shows whatever was 
there on Monday. 

Weird. 

I'll try the other stuff when I get home and let you know what happens
 
 
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From: Bruce Johnson 
To: imaclist 
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2016 11:44 am
Subject: Re: Help





On May 17, 2016, at 6:35 AM, davidw1235 via iMac Group 
 wrote:



I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been acting 
weird. 
I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders, and launch 
Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.  
The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before it 
changed each time it started up.
the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter what. and 
Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not always. 





Stupid zeroth step: try a different mouse. A mouse with a flaky left button 
will produce the “I can start things but not drag and drop” symptoms. 


In fact I had that very experience just last week. Suddenly the Finder became 
weirdly unresponsive…the trackball pointer moved around, right-click worked, 
but I couldn’t click on anything. It was particularly annoying because the 
little microswitch was making the same noise and same ‘click’ feel, usually 
they’re clearly mushy or no longer ‘click’ when pressed. Replacing my trackball 
fixed it. Any three button USB mouse will work properly in OS X.


Can you drag folders around in finder Windows? Ie: is it only your Desktop 
folder that’s affected?


First step: Start in safe mode. Shut the Mac down, and hold down the Shift key 
while starting up. Keep holding it until the progress bar appears. This deletes 
some program caches and such that may cause this behavior. Once it starts up 
and comes to the login prompt, you can restart immediately in normal mode.


Second step : Delete Finder and Desktop preferences. Go to your Library folder 
(in finder Go > Library), find the Preferences folder and find the files 
com.apple.desktop.plist and com.apple.finder.plist move them to the trash and 
restart.


if it persists still, boot from your leopard installer DVD and select Disk 
Utility from the Utilities menu and check your hard drive.


If the drive checks out ok, and all of the above have not fixed it, reboot to 
your computer, go into System Preferences and create a new Administrative user 
account.


Log off and back in as the new user and see if you still have the problems. If 
you do, this is something related to the system and re-installing OS X should 
fix it.


If you don’t have the problems, then the issue is something with your regular 
user account. Re-installing OSX doesn’t fix this; but diagnosing the issue will 
taske some detective work.


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Re: Help

[Clark Martin]

Also, try creating a new user and see if the problem exists under that user

Clark Martin
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> On May 17, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Bruce Johnson  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 6:35 AM, davidw1235 via iMac Group 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been acting 
>> weird. 
>> I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders, and 
>> launch Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.  
>> The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before it 
>> changed each time it started up.
>> 
>> the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter what. and 
>> Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
>> Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not 
>> always. 
> 
> 
> Stupid zeroth step: try a different mouse. A mouse with a flaky left button 
> will produce the “I can start things but not drag and drop” symptoms. 
> 
> 

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Re: Help

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 17, 2016, at 6:35 AM, davidw1235 via iMac Group 
mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been acting weird.
I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders, and launch 
Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.
The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before it 
changed each time it started up.
 the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter what. and 
Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not always.

Stupid zeroth step: try a different mouse. A mouse with a flaky left button 
will produce the “I can start things but not drag and drop” symptoms.

In fact I had that very experience just last week. Suddenly the Finder became 
weirdly unresponsive…the trackball pointer moved around, right-click worked, 
but I couldn’t click on anything. It was particularly annoying because the 
little microswitch was making the same noise and same ‘click’ feel, usually 
they’re clearly mushy or no longer ‘click’ when pressed. Replacing my trackball 
fixed it. Any three button USB mouse will work properly in OS X.

Can you drag folders around in finder Windows? Ie: is it only your Desktop 
folder that’s affected?

First step: Start in safe mode. Shut the Mac down, and hold down the Shift key 
while starting up. Keep holding it until the progress bar appears. This deletes 
some program caches and such that may cause this behavior. Once it starts up 
and comes to the login prompt, you can restart immediately in normal mode.

Second step : Delete Finder and Desktop preferences. Go to your Library folder 
(in finder Go > Library), find the Preferences folder and find the files 
com.apple.desktop.plist and com.apple.finder.plist move them to the trash and 
restart.

if it persists still, boot from your leopard installer DVD and select Disk 
Utility from the Utilities menu and check your hard drive.

If the drive checks out ok, and all of the above have not fixed it, reboot to 
your computer, go into System Preferences and create a new Administrative user 
account.

Log off and back in as the new user and see if you still have the problems. If 
you do, this is something related to the system and re-installing OS X should 
fix it.

If you don’t have the problems, then the issue is something with your regular 
user account. Re-installing OSX doesn’t fix this; but diagnosing the issue will 
taske some detective work.

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[davidw1235 via iMac Group]

I have an imac G5, Powermac8,2 running Leopard. Recently it's been acting 
weird. 
I am unable to move any folders on the desktop, I can open folders, and 
launch Applications, but I can't drag and drop anything.  
The Desktop picture/background no longer chganges upon restart, before 
it changed each time it started up.
the Desktop always starts up with the same window open no matter what. 
and Yes, I have closed it and restarted.
Some Applications, like AOL won't start upi. Persistence helps but not 
always. 


There are probably some deeper issues going on but I haven't encountered them 
yet. 


Any ideas? 



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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[N. Shani]

I'd like to share with the group the final status of the 'slow iMac saga',
kind of year-end closure.

First and foremost, Merry Christmas (to those who celebrate and/or enjoy)
and a Happy New Year.

Many, many, many thanks to all (Jim, Bruce, Valter, Fabian, Clark, Harry,
Dan - very knowledgeable bunch) on your ideas and shared wisdom /
expertise. It pointed me in the right direction.
So, I tried all possible (and limited) trick available to the average user
(me) and had some clues generated.
The Disk Utility with its repair functions worked and didn't find anything
wrong with the HD, but... it took forever to announce so (clue #1: if it
takes ~40 minutes on a 160 GB drive to run the repair functions - each,
that should point to a faulty drive). The next step was to try Onyx, which
again took forever (clue #2) and didn't find anything wrong, so I tried to
reload the OS, which took many hours (clue #3), then downloading and
applying the combo update (clue #4).
At that point I said to myself: let's try booting from the cloned drive and
see how it performs. Booted and the iMac worked like demon, so... internal
HD slow (but functional), external fast - clue? Something is terribly wrong
with the internal, right? Right.
Shop on-line for closest computer shop, jump into car, spend ~$100 (tax
incl.) on a 2 TB HD, take iMac apart (thanks to iFixIt - very clear on how
to do so) and redo the hoopla of the OS install which went like a magic.
iMac is now fully functional, fast and a beauty to use. Thanks, Apple, for
designing a well-integrated PC - it was very interesting to see how they
took meticulous care to address EMC and safety (my fields of expertise),
not to mention how nicely everything was fitted (Windows builders: take
note).

Thanks again,
Naftali Shani
Ottawa, ON


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Dan 
>  wrote:
>
> > or general *system* maintenance use OnyX, perhaps once a month or so, at
> most, to run the three system maintenance scripts (daily, weekly, monthly).
>  And if your system is running slowly, use it to clear the kernel, system,
> and applications caches.  OnyX also lets you enable some nice "hidden"
> interface stuff.
>
> Note that after 10.5-ish (When Apple went to launchd instead of cron to
> run these things) Apple runs these scripts when it can after their 'run
> time' has passed, like the next time they come up, etc; it's not necessary
> to leave it on all night.
>
> I would mention that my first stop when something is going wrong is to
> look at the system log via console.app, in fact, it's a good idea to look
> at it on a regular basis, just to get a feel for what is normally showing
> up there.
>
> What you want to keep an eye out is what's happening when the system
> starts acting slowly. Also anything marked IO Error should be investigated,
> since this is where things like USB device and Disk failure start showing
> up.
>
>
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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Dan 
 wrote:

> or general *system* maintenance use OnyX, perhaps once a month or so, at 
> most, to run the three system maintenance scripts (daily, weekly, monthly).  
> And if your system is running slowly, use it to clear the kernel, system, and 
> applications caches.  OnyX also lets you enable some nice "hidden" interface 
> stuff.

Note that after 10.5-ish (When Apple went to launchd instead of cron to run 
these things) Apple runs these scripts when it can after their 'run time' has 
passed, like the next time they come up, etc; it's not necessary to leave it on 
all night.

I would mention that my first stop when something is going wrong is to look at 
the system log via console.app, in fact, it's a good idea to look at it on a 
regular basis, just to get a feel for what is normally showing up there. 

What you want to keep an eye out is what's happening when the system starts 
acting slowly. Also anything marked IO Error should be investigated, since this 
is where things like USB device and Disk failure start showing up.


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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Dan]

At 4:17 PM -0800 11/25/2013, Clark Martin wrote:

On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:54 PM, N. Shani wrote:
 > - What *in particular* is slow? Everything. Trying to launch any 
application

 is a long wait. Didn't use to be so. Opening another tab in Safari, saving a
 document, opening a document, you name it

 - What' all is running? Typical applications in use are: Word, 
Excel, iTunes, Safari


Is it slow when trying to launch an application with no other apps open?


Yea, what Clark said.  He's pretty much covered everything I'd reply with. :)

 > - Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches? 
Browser: affirmative. What other caches do you have in mind?


/Library/Caches
~/Library/Caches
There is also one at /System/Library/Caches but I only toss that one 
with more extreme problems.


A tool such as AppleJack or OnyX (both free) will take care of 
clearing these for you.


 > - Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system 
maintenance scripts? Please elaborate. I'm going to try AHT soon 
(once I locate the 10.6 DVD and have the time to scoot to where said 
iMac resides)


In Terminal you type:

sudo periodic daily
sudo periodic weekly
sudo periodic monthly


OnyX is useful here too.

These maintenance scripts are normally run automatically by OS X - 
but for it to do so you have to leave your Mac running overnight. 
Since they probably haven't been run in a long time, they'll may take 
quite a while - so be patient.



 > I'll be happy to learn about your thinking


Think horses not zebras.  Do the basics first - general maintenance, 
cache cleaning, etc.  And check your system.log (use Console.app) for 
obvious failures, before jumping to things like HD failures.



Valter mentions AppleJack in his reply.  Great tool!...

Note that, in general, AppleJack is an emergency tool, a sledgehammer 
for when when all else fails and your Mac won't boot or run normally. 
It runs in Single-User Mode (cmd-S held down during boot) - an 
environment when very little except OS X's Unix core/underbelly is 
running.  DO NOT use it for general maintenance.


For general *disk* maintenance, run a Verify Disk pass with Disk 
Utility once a month.  Also a good idea to do this before installing 
Apple stuff.


For general *system* maintenance use OnyX, perhaps once a month or 
so, at most, to run the three system maintenance scripts (daily, 
weekly, monthly).  And if your system is running slowly, use it to 
clear the kernel, system, and applications caches.  OnyX also lets 
you enable some nice "hidden" interface stuff.


fwiw,
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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[GMail Valter Psicof]

Il giorno 26/11/13 00.54, "N. Shani" ha scritto:

> - Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches? Browser:
> affirmative. What other caches do you have in mind?
The System's caches.
You can try with Onyx, a System maintenance tool (free):
http://www.titanium.free.fr/
(use the Cleaning and/or Automation tab)

With it you can do a lot of maintenance the easy way, without Terminal.

> - Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system maintenance
> scripts? Please elaborate.
You can use Onyx here as well.
(use the Automation tab)

> - Have you tried rebooting into Safe Mode (which clears a bunch of system
> caches), then rebooting normally? Not yet. Will be done when I locate DVD,
You don't need any DVD. See this info:
http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/Safe-Boot.htm

> I realize that this iMac may possibly have a badly fragmented HD
> (considering its age and usage) - could that be the issue in your opinion?
I don't think that could be the issue (also because OSX does some kind of
defragmenting itself).  Besides, it would slow down mostly app startup and
disk access, not normal operations.

If the issue it's disk-related, more likely could be a failing or damaged
disk problem.
If you had not already done so, make a BACKUP ASAP.
Just in case. :-)


Something else that could fix several issues (and clean the caches too), is
Applejack:
http://applejack.sourceforge.net/
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15667/applejack

Its usage is a tiny bit tricky: after installing it, you have to boot in
Single User mode (hold Cmd+s at startup), and when at the prompt you type
"Applejack" (or "Applejack auto restart" to let it do everything by itself).
But I highly recommend it; it's my first step when something looks odd, or
for periodical maintenance.


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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Clark Martin]

On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:54 PM, N. Shani wrote:

> Dan, all questions are valid, so let me try and expand:
> 
> - What *in particular* is slow? Everything. Trying to launch any application 
> is a long wait. Didn't use to be so. Opening another tab in Safari, saving a 
> document, opening a document, you name it
> 
> - What' all is running? Typical applications in use are: Word, Excel, iTunes, 
> Safari

Is it slow when trying to launch an application with no other apps open?


> 
> - Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches? Browser: 
> affirmative. What other caches do you have in mind?


/Library/Caches

~/Library/Caches

This is in your user folder.

For both of them you can simply toss the Caches folder in the trash.

There is also one at /System/Library/Caches but I only toss that one with more 
extreme problems.

> 
> - Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system maintenance scripts? 
> Please elaborate. I'm going to try AHT soon (once I locate the 10.6 DVD and 
> have the time to scoot to where said iMac resides)

In Terminal you type:

sudo periodic daily
sudo periodic weekly
sudo periodic monthly

> 
> - Have you tried rebooting? Done daily
> 
> - Have you tried rebooting into Safe Mode (which clears a bunch of system 
> caches), then rebooting normally? Not yet. Will be done when I locate DVD, 
> scoot over - you get the idea
> 

All you need to do is hold down the shift key during startup.  Once it 
completes and you've tried a few things to see if it's still slow, you need to 
restart to boot it without Safe Mode.

> I'll be happy to learn about your thinking: I'm not an expert by any stretch 
> of the imagination but am not afraid to try reasonable things (as pointed 
> earlier). I've been using Macs for ages (starting with SE/System 5? in the 
> late 80s, then LC475, G5, MacBook, MacBook Air) and had a good run with them: 
> none failed catastrophically - usually I kept them long enough till I could 
> afford a newer version.
> 
> I realize that this iMac may possibly have a badly fragmented HD (considering 
> its age and usage) - could that be the issue in your opinion? As it is an 
> Intel-based iMac, it is whisper quiet compared to the G5 (I never heard its 
> fans roar like the G5 or sometime the MacBook).

Fragmentation isn't likely a problem, the OS tends to prevent that.

Low disk space can be a problem but you said you had plenty of free space.

Have you run Disk Utility / Disk Verify?  

I have had a couple of cases of slowness that was corrected running Disk 
Repair.  You can't run Disk Repair without booting from another disk but if 
Disk Verify shows no problem then you don't need to run Disk Repair.

You can also try running Disk Utility / Permissions repair (booted from the 
hard disk in question).  It rarely fixes things but when it does it works well.

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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[N. Shani]

Dan, all questions are valid, so let me try and expand:

- What *in particular* is slow? Everything. Trying to launch any
application is a long wait. Didn't use to be so. Opening another tab in
Safari, saving a document, opening a document, you name it

- What' all is running? Typical applications in use are: Word, Excel,
iTunes, Safari

- Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches? Browser:
affirmative. What other caches do you have in mind?

- Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system maintenance
scripts? Please elaborate. I'm going to try AHT soon (once I locate the
10.6 DVD and have the time to scoot to where said iMac resides)

- Have you tried rebooting? Done daily

- Have you tried rebooting into Safe Mode (which clears a bunch of system
caches), then rebooting normally? Not yet. Will be done when I locate DVD,
scoot over - you get the idea

I'll be happy to learn about your thinking: I'm not an expert by any
stretch of the imagination but am not afraid to try reasonable things (as
pointed earlier). I've been using Macs for ages (starting with SE/System 5?
in the late 80s, then LC475, G5, MacBook, MacBook Air) and had a good run
with them: none failed catastrophically - usually I kept them long enough
till I could afford a newer version.

I realize that this iMac may possibly have a badly fragmented HD
(considering its age and usage) - could that be the issue in your opinion?
As it is an Intel-based iMac, it is whisper quiet compared to the G5 (I
never heard its fans roar like the G5 or sometime the MacBook).

Thanks, Naftali

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 7:38 AM -0500 11/24/2013, N. Shani wrote:
>
>> - late 2006 17" [iMac]
>>
>> - OS is 10.6.8, with current updates
>> - stock HD 160 GB, ~1/2 full
>> - 2.5 GB RAM (stock was 2x 512 MB, so one 512 MB stick was exchanged with
>> 2 GB stick)
>>
>
>  what is causing the above to slow down.
>>
>
>  - monitoring active CPU processes doesn't show any process hogging the
>> CPU beyond a few % (not even M$-related, such as Excel or Word)
>>
>
> What *in particular* is slow?
>
> What'all is running?
>
> Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches?
>
> Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system maintenance scripts?
>
> Have you tried rebooting?
>
> Have you tired rebooting into Safe Mode (which clears a bunch of system
> caches), then rebooting normally?
>
>
>
>  Thanks to anyone who can assist with ideas on how to speed this iMac,
>> which is otherwise running fine.
>>
>
> "otherwise"??  At this point, we have only an incomplete report from
> you:  You haven't actually said what tasks are slow.  "My car is running
> slow" -- Can't tell if your car is slow because the driveway is knee deep
> in dead frogs, if you've left the garage door closed, or if you broke your
> foot so pushing on the gas pedal is a problem, or if you unbolted the
> engine and left it on the floor...
>
> Before you jump off the deep end with the disk maintenance described in
> the other thread forks,,, do the basics as described above and provide some
> detailed information.
>
> - Dan.
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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Dan]

At 7:38 AM -0500 11/24/2013, N. Shani wrote:

- late 2006 17" [iMac]
- OS is 10.6.8, with current updates
- stock HD 160 GB, ~1/2 full
- 2.5 GB RAM (stock was 2x 512 MB, so one 512 MB stick was exchanged 
with 2 GB stick)



what is causing the above to slow down.


- monitoring active CPU processes doesn't show any process hogging 
the CPU beyond a few % (not even M$-related, such as Excel or Word)


What *in particular* is slow?

What'all is running?

Have you tried clearing your browser and other user caches?

Have you tried running the three Apple-provided system maintenance scripts?

Have you tried rebooting?

Have you tired rebooting into Safe Mode (which clears a bunch of 
system caches), then rebooting normally?



Thanks to anyone who can assist with ideas on how to speed this 
iMac, which is otherwise running fine.


"otherwise"??  At this point, we have only an incomplete report 
from you:  You haven't actually said what tasks are slow.  "My car is 
running slow" -- Can't tell if your car is slow because the driveway 
is knee deep in dead frogs, if you've left the garage door closed, or 
if you broke your foot so pushing on the gas pedal is a problem, or 
if you unbolted the engine and left it on the floor...


Before you jump off the deep end with the disk maintenance described 
in the other thread forks,,, do the basics as described above and 
provide some detailed information.


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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[gifutiger]

Greetings,

All of the other ideas presented are very solid, however the first thing 
that I would do is get a copy of "Onyx" and run the tab which shows a 
"Hammer" called Automation. Start with the default settings and if that 
doesn't speed up your iMac then select all of the items in Automation.

When you are looking for the program "Onyx" be sure to get the one that is 
for the release of OS X that you are using.]

Cheers

Harry Freeman
San Jose, Ca

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 4:38:20 AM UTC-8, ns wrote:
>
> Need your collective wisdom to identify what is causing the above to slow 
> down.
>
> The particulars are:
> - late 2006 17" model 5,1
> - OS is 10.6.8, with current updates
> - stock HD 160 GB, ~1/2 full
> - 2.5 GB RAM (stock was 2x 512 MB, so one 512 MB stick was exchanged with 
> 2 GB stick)
> - monitoring active CPU processes doesn't show any process hogging the CPU 
> beyond a few % (not even M$-related, such as Excel or Word)
>
> I originally suspected it was Sophos, so removed and downloaded ClamX.
> It helped a bit for a while, then it started crawling again.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can assist with ideas on how to speed this iMac, 
> which is otherwise running fine.
>  

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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Fabian Fang]

On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Jim Scott wrote:

> Next, I run Drive Genius 3, the utility used by Geniuses in Apple stores. I 
> boot from the DG3 disk and run the hard drive scan test, making sure to ask 
> it to reallocate any bad sectors found. Then I run the Disk Integrity tests 
> for both read and write. The longer the tests run, the more likely you are to 
> find any problem areas. So don't skimp on time spent as you're not likely to 
> find any problem areas on the hard drive's media in 5 minutes, or possibly 
> even 30 minutes. I usually do a Sustained version of the read and write tests 
> on a smaller hard drive like yours, which takes 1-2 hours unless there are 
> read/write slowdowns.
> 
> Finally, if a hard drive has passed all of the above tests, I run two more 
> utilities. First, with the iMac still booted into the Drive Genius 3 disk, I 
> select the Defrag button. Even though OS X does a pretty good job of 
> defragmenting files on the fly, after 7 years your hard drive is probably 
> pretty fragmented. DG3's Defrag feature will tell you how much and suggest 
> whether or not you should defrag.
> 
> Drive Genius 3 and Disk Warrior are pricey third party utilities in the $100 
> range, but are worth every penny for someone like me.


PowerMax, a Macintosh dealer not usually known for good prices, is selling 
brand-new packages of Drive Genius 3.0 for $14.95 on eBay:


For those who do not already have it, grab one quickly!

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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[GMail Valter Psicof]

Il giorno 24/11/13 13.38, "N. Shani" ha scritto:

> Need your collective wisdom to identify what is causing the above to slow
> down.
> 
> The particulars are:
> - late 2006 17" model 5,1
> - OS is 10.6.8, with current updates

Apart from Jim's excellent troubleshoot guide, the only things that comes
off the top of my mind, is possibly some peripheral error (especially USB):
sometimes peripherals act weirdly, this create troubles to the system, but
you don't get any hint.
Thus, try booting your iMac after having disconnected any peripherals - save
for mouse and keyboard, and connect them directly to the USB ports (no USB
hub) - then check if anything has changed.
(BTW, are your mouse and kb the original Apple ones?)

Although unlikely, another cause might be overheating due to dust
accumulation inside the iMac. You could download and test internal temps
with Temperature Monitor (free):
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

If you see excessive temps, you could use something like smcFanControl:
http://www.eidac.de/
to run the fans at their maximum speed, hence moving out (some) dust.

HTH,
Valter


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Re: Help please: slow iMac

[Jim Scott]

On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:38 AM, N. Shani  wrote:

> Need your collective wisdom to identify what is causing the above to slow 
> down.
> 
> The particulars are:
> - late 2006 17" model 5,1
> - OS is 10.6.8, with current updates
> - stock HD 160 GB, ~1/2 full
> - 2.5 GB RAM (stock was 2x 512 MB, so one 512 MB stick was exchanged with 2 
> GB stick)
> - monitoring active CPU processes doesn't show any process hogging the CPU 
> beyond a few % (not even M$-related, such as Excel or Word)
> 
> I originally suspected it was Sophos, so removed and downloaded ClamX.
> It helped a bit for a while, then it started crawling again.
> 
> Thanks to anyone who can assist with ideas on how to speed this iMac, which 
> is otherwise running fine.

FIRST: Do a full, bootable backup of your hard drive. Use Carbon Copy Cloner 
(the last, free version can be downloaded from the Bombich software site) or 
SuperDuper! Do this NOW while your iMac's hard drive contents are still 
accessible.

Since you say your iMac is otherwise running fine, the most likely culprit is 
the hard drive, even though yours is only half full. If you still have the 
original install DVDs, find the one with "AHT" or "Apple Hardware Test" written 
on it, and follow instructions to boot from that DVD. Once booted, run both the 
Quick and Extended tests. Make sure you check the "Do not stop for errors" box 
so that the tests will run to completion. 

The first time through, do NOT let the tests do a full scan of the hard drive. 
I suspect the drive will pass the basic tests just fine and you'll get a green 
"PASSED" screen each time. But you may get a red "FAILED" notice, with red type 
for the failure message. That message likely will be for the hard drive.

Whether the hard drive passes or not, run the AHT again in the Extended mode. 
Deselect all tests EXCEPT for the hard drive full scan. Again, set the test to 
NOT stop for errors. Let it run, which may take a couple of hours; if it takes 
longer, that's a clue which I'll talk about in a moment. This will do a full 
scan of the hard drive for bad sectors. It may or may not pass. Hard drives 
that are just beginning to have problems with reading and/or writing usually 
pass. If the hard drive passes with a green "PASSED" message, that means there 
are no bad sectors, but it doesn't mean there are no problems, especially if it 
takes a lng time to do the scan as the test tries to resolve slow 
read/write issues. A 160 GB HD shouldn't take more than a couple of hours on 
your iMac.

If you get red "FAILED" messages, AHT will tell you why, generally. It also 
will give you a code or codes, which you may or may not be able to translate 
into English after doing a Google search. 

At this point, you will have done all you can do with the AHT, but you will 
have some insight into the health of your iMac's hardware. 

Pass or Fail, here's what I do in cases such as yours. First, I install 
SMARTReporter on any Mac that passes through my hands. This simple utility 
monitors the Self Monitoring and Reporting Test firmware on each hard drive 
installed inside a Mac and shows a green (OK), yellow (failing) or red (failed) 
icon in the menubar to alert you to your hard drive's health.

Second, I run Apple Service Diagnostics (in your iMac's case, that is ASD 
3S108) in both OS and EFI modes. ASD tests are very extensive versions of those 
run by AHT, and often will find problems that the quick AHT tests don't/can't.

Next, I run Drive Genius 3, the utility used by Geniuses in Apple stores. I 
boot from the DG3 disk and run the hard drive scan test, making sure to ask it 
to reallocate any bad sectors found. Then I run the Disk Integrity tests for 
both read and write. The longer the tests run, the more likely you are to find 
any problem areas. So don't skimp on time spent as you're not likely to find 
any problem areas on the hard drive's media in 5 minutes, or possibly even 30 
minutes. I usually do a Sustained version of the read and write tests on a 
smaller hard drive like yours, which takes 1-2 hours unless there are 
read/write slowdowns.

Finally, if a hard drive has passed all of the above tests, I run two more 
utilities. First, with the iMac still booted into the Drive Genius 3 disk, I 
select the Defrag button. Even though OS X does a pretty good job of 
defragmenting files on the fly, after 7 years your hard drive is probably 
pretty fragmented. DG3's Defrag feature will tell you how much and suggest 
whether or not you should defrag.

If your hard drive has passed all the tests and has been defragmented, the last 
thing to do is to run Disk Warrior, which will find and fix directory issues. 
(DW version 4.2 is the right one for OS X 10.6.) It also will find and fix 
"volume information" errors, which often are behind hard to pinpoint operating 
problems.

If the iMac and the hard drive have been through all of the above, and passed 
all the tests and procedures, I then do a PRAM reset (let it chime 

Help please: slow iMac

[N. Shani]

Need your collective wisdom to identify what is causing the above to slow
down.

The particulars are:
- late 2006 17" model 5,1
- OS is 10.6.8, with current updates
- stock HD 160 GB, ~1/2 full
- 2.5 GB RAM (stock was 2x 512 MB, so one 512 MB stick was exchanged with 2
GB stick)
- monitoring active CPU processes doesn't show any process hogging the CPU
beyond a few % (not even M$-related, such as Excel or Word)

I originally suspected it was Sophos, so removed and downloaded ClamX.
It helped a bit for a while, then it started crawling again.

Thanks to anyone who can assist with ideas on how to speed this iMac, which
is otherwise running fine.

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Skylion Lionsfire]

Hey sis - So what else you been up to besides keeping Jobs old silicon warm?

On Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:11:01 AM UTC-8, Haila Vickland wrote:

> You can try ebay.com. Older software is often sold by ebay. Also try:
> www.lowendmac.com. It would also be helpful to post your question on
> the mac site on Craigslist. I have an old imac of the same vintage
> (M5521) and I like it a lot.
>
>  
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Re: Further To My Help Request: Imac Power Boards

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 22, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob Whiton wrote:

> At 10:05 PM -0700 5/21/13, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The G5 imacs were remarkably user-friendly to disassemble and repair.
> 
> A design error that Apple has corrected on subsequent generations of iMac. ;-)

Yeah, but I appreciate the remarkably lessened need to do so over the G5's. And 
once you go over the weirdness of having to use suction cups to pull off the 
screen, the first few generations of  Al imacs weren't that bad, either; 
certainly no worse than working on laptops. They've gone to all-glued-up in the 
latest though.

Also, even the quad i7's are less of a space heater than the G5's were...


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Re: Further To My Help Request: Imac Power Boards

[Bob Whiton]

At 10:05 PM -0700 5/21/13, Bruce Johnson wrote:



The G5 imacs were remarkably user-friendly to disassemble and repair.


A design error that Apple has corrected on subsequent generations of iMac. ;-)

Bob

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Re: Further To My Help Request: Imac Power Boards

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 21, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Eraina and Richard jenkins wrote:

> 
> Next step:  Is there a website with a tutorial on taking apart one of
> these IMacs??   Physical examination may reveal the extent of the
> problem.  Any special tools required??  I can learn on this b4 looking
> into my own Imac.

The G5 imacs were remarkably user-friendly to disassemble and repair. 

I find that iFixit's guides are the gold standard 

 Here's a video form another good source:




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Further To My Help Request: Imac Power Boards

[Eraina and Richard jenkins]

My thanks to those who replied.  I was sure that this group could
produce better answers than 'just buy a new one'!

Next step:  Is there a website with a tutorial on taking apart one of
these IMacs??   Physical examination may reveal the extent of the
problem.  Any special tools required??  I can learn on this b4 looking
into my own Imac.

Richard

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Re: Hope u can help

[Dennis Faulkner]

I keep the original packing materials also - I had to have my power supply 
repaired on my 8 year old Imac, though I always use an APC back-up to protect 
against surges and spikes - it is amazing how heavy the computer seems when you 
are trying to carry it a good distance - as if through a mall to the Apple 
Store.  I had it repaired this time at the auth Apple reseller, Crywolf in San 
Diego - not nearly as far to carry from the parking lot to the building -

Dennis

On Nov 30, 2012, at 07:44 AM, Bruce Johnson  
wrote:



On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:48 AM, ds...@nl.rogers.com wrote:

> Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in 
several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting is the 
chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's not fried.
> Any suggestions as to what I might try?

Try holding down the shift key to start in safe mode. If that doesn't work, 
start it up holding down the command and V key, this will show all the unix 
underbelly stuff that goes on…where it stops should tell you what the problem 
is.

> I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none came with 
the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?

No it is not; not on a two-year-old one. The disk should have been in the square white 
box that had the "manual" and warrantee information. If you got the standard 
short wirelss keyboard, this box was at one end of the long box with the keyboard and 
mouse in it. It's been a while since I unpacked one with the extended keyboard, but as I 
recall it was also in that box as well, or perhaps it was stuck into another slot on the 
white foam at the top of the box.

Note this is only helpoful if you're one of the anal types like me who keep all 
the original packing materials… :-)


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hope u can help

[dshep]

I have a two year old Imac running snow leopard. We had severe weather 
last night and lost our power five separate times.
When I tried to boot my Imac this morning, all I got were the chime, 
the apple and a small spinning disc.

I'd appreciate suggestions as  to what I can try.
I looked for the original software discs and realized that none came 
with it. Is this normal?


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Re: Hope u can help

[Ken]

Did you opt in for Apple Care when you bought the computer?  I always buy
it for 3 years and it gives you unlimited access
to Tech support, parts replacement (I got a new harddrive that was bigger
than the one they took out!)  If there's an Apple Store near you, call and
make an appointment with a "genius" who will help you without Apple Care on
their products.  I went to one today because my iPhone 4S wasn't making
calls.  She took it into the back room and came out 5 minutes later and
said there was a little dust in it.  Now works great!

Ken

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Fabian Fang  wrote:

> On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:48 AM, ds...@nl.rogers.com wrote:
>
> > I've got a two year old Imac running snow leopard.
>
> All "mid-2010" iMac models came with OS 10.6.3 pre-installed.
>
> > Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in
> several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting is
> the chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's not
> fried.
> > Any suggestions as to what I might try?
>
> If it is determined that you need to reinstall OS, you can do one of the
> following:
>
> (1)  Call Apple to order a copy of the original specific OS-install DVD
> for your iMac.  There will be a nominal charge (~ $17); it will arrive
> relatively quickly within a few days.
> (2)  Order from the Apple Online Store a "retail"(universal-install) OS
> 10.6.x DVD:
> <http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard>
> I believe that they are selling 10.6.3, which should work for your iMac.
>
> > I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none came
> with the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?
>
> No.  My 2011 MacBook Pro came with an "OS Install DVD".
>
> Fabian
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Re: Hope u can help

[Michael Shaw]

Same thing happened to me - power failures and all - and I booted the iMac
from the latest Drive Genius DVD and managed to run the Prosoft version of
Disk Utilities to correct the info on the internal drive so it would boot
up properly.

Mike


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> Hey group
> I've got a two year old Imac running snow leopard.
> Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in
> several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting is
> the chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's not
> fried.
> Any suggestions as to what I might try?
> I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none came
> with the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?
> I'm sending this on one of my old (2000) green Imac which runs Panther,
> and well I might add. I remember that the original soft ware came with it
> and all my previous Macs.
>
> Dave Sheppard
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Re: Hope u can help

[Fabian Fang]

On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:48 AM, ds...@nl.rogers.com wrote:

> I've got a two year old Imac running snow leopard.

All "mid-2010" iMac models came with OS 10.6.3 pre-installed.

> Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in 
> several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting is the 
> chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's not fried.
> Any suggestions as to what I might try?

If it is determined that you need to reinstall OS, you can do one of the 
following:

(1)  Call Apple to order a copy of the original specific OS-install DVD for 
your iMac.  There will be a nominal charge (~ $17); it will arrive relatively 
quickly within a few days.
(2)  Order from the Apple Online Store a "retail"(universal-install) OS 10.6.x 
DVD:

I believe that they are selling 10.6.3, which should work for your iMac.

> I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none came with 
> the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?

No.  My 2011 MacBook Pro came with an "OS Install DVD".

Fabian

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Re: Hope u can help

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:48 AM, ds...@nl.rogers.com wrote:

> Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in 
> several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting is the 
> chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's not fried.
> Any suggestions as to what I might try?

Try holding down the shift key to start in safe mode. If that doesn't work, 
start it up holding down the command and V key, this will show all the unix 
underbelly stuff that goes on…where it stops should tell you what the problem 
is.

> I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none came with 
> the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?

No it is not; not on a two-year-old one. The disk should have been in the 
square white box that had the "manual" and warrantee information. If you got 
the standard short wirelss keyboard, this box was at one end of the long box 
with the keyboard and mouse in it. It's been a while since I unpacked one with 
the extended keyboard, but as I recall it was also in that box as well, or 
perhaps it was stuck into another slot on the white foam at the top of the box.

Note this is only helpoful if you're one of the anal types like me who keep all 
the original packing materials… :-)


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Hope u can help

[dshep]

Hey group
I've got a two year old Imac running snow leopard.
Last night we had some wild weather and lost electricity five times in 
several hours. When I booted up the Imac this morning, all I'm getting 
is the chime, the apple and a small spinning circle. Jeez I hope it's 
not fried.

Any suggestions as to what I might try?
I looked for the original install discs and just realized that none 
came with the computer. Is this the norm with the newer Imacs?
I'm sending this on one of my old (2000) green Imac which runs Panther, 
and well I might add. I remember that the original soft ware came with 
it and all my previous Macs.


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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[Brian Christmas]

> On 08/04/2012, at 2:47 PM, madamekelly wrote:
> 
> I am in a small town in west central Oregon called Lebanon. We are on
> the map, but just barely I would love to have any software you are
> done with. I would even pay you for the postage. I am living on
> disability since my brain injury, and it  is just enough to keep a
> roof over my head. I only have an Imac os x Tiger because I won a
> small court case 6 years ago. I am willing to "pay it forward" to help
> someone else as I can. I wish I could just use the ipad I ordered (on
> payments). I will probably end up sending it back since I can't afford
> the upgrades, nor can I do the upgrades myself.  Thank you for your
> offer of help. With your assistance, maybe I can keep the Imac online
> for another couple years. -Kelly
>> 
>> G'day Madame
>> 
>> I've got a boxed copy of Snow Leopard you can have for free if you want.
>> 
>> Questions
>> 
>> 1. What model of iMac do you have. (use the Apple menu 'about this Mac')
>> 
>> 2. I live in Bendigo, Victoria if you're anywhere close by I'd be only to 
>> happy to help out. Where are you based.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Santa
> 

G'day to the list.

Some questions regarding Keys predicament.

1. Does anyone live near Kelly, who is able to assist on site?

2. Does Kelly need my boxed copy of Snow Leopard, or can someone in the States 
help her with a redundant copy? I don't mind the postage, but don't want her 
ending up with multiple copies.

3. Is there anyone with a redundant suitable backup drive (I've unfortunately 
already given away to friends and rellies my 3 x 1 TB backups from my previous 
iMac).

Regards

Santa

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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[madamekelly]

I am in a small town in west central Oregon called Lebanon. We are on
the map, but just barely I would love to have any software you are
done with. I would even pay you for the postage. I am living on
disability since my brain injury, and it  is just enough to keep a
roof over my head. I only have an Imac os x Tiger because I won a
small court case 6 years ago. I am willing to "pay it forward" to help
someone else as I can. I wish I could just use the ipad I ordered (on
payments). I will probably end up sending it back since I can't afford
the upgrades, nor can I do the upgrades myself.  Thank you for your
offer of help. With your assistance, maybe I can keep the Imac online
for another couple years. -Kelly
> On 05/04/2012, at 2:26 PM, madamekelly wrote:
>
> Ok, I read all of the lovely advice you all sent. I am still confused
> but getting better. I want to especially thank those of you who
> "dumbed it down" for me.
>
> Now, I have come up with what I hope are intelligent questions-
>
> First some background- I do not know how to back up my files. I have
> my home set up for wifi. I have purchased an ipad 2 (I would like to
> use it around my home, to free me from my desk, ever try to follow a
> recipe by running back and forth from the kitchen to the computer?)
> but I can't use it with os x tiger, so I must upgrade.
>
> Question 1. How do I upgrade, without losing what  music I have spent
> a fortune collecting (over 2000 songs) from i-tunes?  The ipad 2 will
> not work with os x tiger. I also have to have a more recent copy of i-
> tunes, does it come with the upgraded software?
>
> Question 2. Would any of you be willing to come to me, or me come to
> you, to do this so I don't turn my imac into the worlds most expensive
> paperweight?
>
> I understand how easy all of this might be to all of you, but after
> having a brain injury, I have real problems with understanding how all
> of this works. I do not know anyone else who was smart enough to buy
> an imac. (stupid PC users) When I bought mine, it was with the
> knowledge that they are pretty much kelly-proof!.  For the record, if
> you check the urban dictionary under "compudufus" you will find me.''
>
> Thank you all again
>
> G'day Madame
>
> I've got a boxed copy of Snow Leopard you can have for free if you want.
>
> Questions
>
> 1. What model of iMac do you have. (use the Apple menu 'about this Mac')
>
> 2. I live in Bendigo, Victoria if you're anywhere close by I'd be only to 
> happy to help out. Where are you based.
>
> Regards
>
> Santa

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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[irrational John]

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Lynn Wegley  wrote:
> Snow Leopard requires a copy of Leopard first in order to upgrade to Snow
> Leopard and then on to Lion.

Actually, no, it does not.

www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/08/27/apples_snow_leopard_disc_will_install_on_tiger_macs.html

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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[Lynn Wegley]

Snow Leopard requires a copy of Leopard first in order to upgrade to Snow 
Leopard and then on to Lion.
I believe that all Intel machines will up grade to Lion.  However, the next OS, 
Mountain Lion will not upgrade some of the earlier Intel Macs.

Everything of course should be backed up before doing an upgrade, just in case.

However SOME people are using the iPad without any computer.  That would make 
it pretty difficult to get the music on to the iPad however.  So if that is the 
goal, then an upgrade will be required.  While iCloud does require Lion, I 
believe that iTunes and syncing to the iPad only requires Snow Leopard.

Lynn


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On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote:

> For backups a simple backup of your files will normally be good, and that is 
> simple. The easiest way of doing that is to buy an external hard drive. If 
> you have 2000 MP3 files a 500 GB drive will work, and they aren't that 
> expensive, and the songs will only use around 1/50 of that, giving you room 
> to backup any documents\pictures\etc you might have. Just drag the files from 
> their location to the drive in Finder, it'll copy them for you. For security 
> it's best to store a backup drive off site, as if there is a fire or 
> earthquake (does anyone other than California have 'em often?), flood, etc, 
> there is no way to retrieve anything.
> 
> As for upgrading, it's pretty simple. to do so, if you're familiar with OS 
> 10.4 then OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) won't be that much of a change. It's a 
> pretty easy upgrade using the DVD, just insert the disk, it'll want to 
> restart and then the install is very simple, just choose your language, hit 
> next, read the license agreement and if you accept it hit accept, choose the 
> hard drive as the install location and hit next, then hit install, when it's 
> finished it'll reboot and be running Snow Leopard.
> 
> As far as I know you can upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard, I don't have an 
> Intel Mac, yet (getting a Black Macbook soon), so I can't test it.
> 
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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[Brian Christmas]

> On 05/04/2012, at 2:26 PM, madamekelly wrote:
> 
> Ok, I read all of the lovely advice you all sent. I am still confused
> but getting better. I want to especially thank those of you who
> "dumbed it down" for me.
> 
> Now, I have come up with what I hope are intelligent questions-
> 
> First some background- I do not know how to back up my files. I have
> my home set up for wifi. I have purchased an ipad 2 (I would like to
> use it around my home, to free me from my desk, ever try to follow a
> recipe by running back and forth from the kitchen to the computer?)
> but I can't use it with os x tiger, so I must upgrade.
> 
> Question 1. How do I upgrade, without losing what  music I have spent
> a fortune collecting (over 2000 songs) from i-tunes?  The ipad 2 will
> not work with os x tiger. I also have to have a more recent copy of i-
> tunes, does it come with the upgraded software?
> 
> Question 2. Would any of you be willing to come to me, or me come to
> you, to do this so I don't turn my imac into the worlds most expensive
> paperweight?
> 
> I understand how easy all of this might be to all of you, but after
> having a brain injury, I have real problems with understanding how all
> of this works. I do not know anyone else who was smart enough to buy
> an imac. (stupid PC users) When I bought mine, it was with the
> knowledge that they are pretty much kelly-proof!.  For the record, if
> you check the urban dictionary under "compudufus" you will find me.''
> 
> Thank you all again
> 
G'day again Madame

I goofed. I've been helping a lady in Australia in a similar predicament, on 
the Outback.mac list. I'm busy, so posted and replied in haste.

As I live in Oz, and you in the US, I fear we're a bit far apart. Nonetheless 
my offer to send a gratis, legit copy of Snow Leopard still stands, if you want 
it.

As to ensuring your music, I would purchase a backup drive and clone a copy of 
your existing iMac using CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner, 
http://www.bombich.com/download.html ) before updating. Updating should leave 
your settings and information intact, but Murphys law can prevail (if something 
can go wrong, it will go wrong). As you are updating, I suggest purchasing an 
external hard drive at least 1.5 times as large as your existing Hard Drive, 
then swap the backup over to the hourly Time Machine backup method found in 
Snow Leopard, once you've successfully updated.

Regards

Santa

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Re: Whew! So much help. Thank you

[Brian Christmas]

On 05/04/2012, at 2:26 PM, madamekelly wrote:

Ok, I read all of the lovely advice you all sent. I am still confused
but getting better. I want to especially thank those of you who
"dumbed it down" for me.

Now, I have come up with what I hope are intelligent questions-

First some background- I do not know how to back up my files. I have
my home set up for wifi. I have purchased an ipad 2 (I would like to
use it around my home, to free me from my desk, ever try to follow a
recipe by running back and forth from the kitchen to the computer?)
but I can't use it with os x tiger, so I must upgrade.

Question 1. How do I upgrade, without losing what  music I have spent
a fortune collecting (over 2000 songs) from i-tunes?  The ipad 2 will
not work with os x tiger. I also have to have a more recent copy of i-
tunes, does it come with the upgraded software?

Question 2. Would any of you be willing to come to me, or me come to
you, to do this so I don't turn my imac into the worlds most expensive
paperweight?

I understand how easy all of this might be to all of you, but after
having a brain injury, I have real problems with understanding how all
of this works. I do not know anyone else who was smart enough to buy
an imac. (stupid PC users) When I bought mine, it was with the
knowledge that they are pretty much kelly-proof!.  For the record, if
you check the urban dictionary under "compudufus" you will find me.''

Thank you all again
 

G'day Madame

I've got a boxed copy of Snow Leopard you can have for free if you want.

Questions

1. What model of iMac do you have. (use the Apple menu 'about this Mac')

2. I live in Bendigo, Victoria if you're anywhere close by I'd be only to happy 
to help out. Where are you based.

Regards

Santa

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Whew! So much help. Thank you

[madamekelly]

Ok, I read all of the lovely advice you all sent. I am still confused
but getting better. I want to especially thank those of you who
"dumbed it down" for me.

Now, I have come up with what I hope are intelligent questions-

First some background- I do not know how to back up my files. I have
my home set up for wifi. I have purchased an ipad 2 (I would like to
use it around my home, to free me from my desk, ever try to follow a
recipe by running back and forth from the kitchen to the computer?)
but I can't use it with os x tiger, so I must upgrade.

Question 1. How do I upgrade, without losing what  music I have spent
a fortune collecting (over 2000 songs) from i-tunes?  The ipad 2 will
not work with os x tiger. I also have to have a more recent copy of i-
tunes, does it come with the upgraded software?

Question 2. Would any of you be willing to come to me, or me come to
you, to do this so I don't turn my imac into the worlds most expensive
paperweight?

I understand how easy all of this might be to all of you, but after
having a brain injury, I have real problems with understanding how all
of this works. I do not know anyone else who was smart enough to buy
an imac. (stupid PC users) When I bought mine, it was with the
knowledge that they are pretty much kelly-proof!.  For the record, if
you check the urban dictionary under "compudufus" you will find me.''

Thank you all again

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Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[David Parks]

Strait debian works better as they have a port already and Ubuntu will be a
little bloated for that model.  I have three also which were my kids which
ran OS 9 when they were smaller.

Instead of trying to force OS X on there I reused them in my basement data
center.  They make great little linux boxes and are about as speed as my
little netbook.

They are not robust enough to be a linux workstation for me but they get by.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Jesse Carroll wrote:

> For Tray Loading iMacs, it might be better to go to Ubuntu 9.04 for
> powerpc.
>
> All CRT iMacs have slow USB 1.1 ports, so some ideas here won't work as
> they need
>
> USB2.0
>
> I have an Early 2001 G3/600 SE Graphite running OS 10.4.11
>
> 1GB Ram
>
> 80GB 7200 rpm HDD.
>
> It has run Ubuntu 9.04 fine, as has my 1999 PowerBook G3/333 Lombard,
>
> which has to have XpostFacto to run OS 10.4.11.
>
> UMMV
>
> J.C.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield <
> christopher1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me
>> running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime
>> soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of
>> ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so
>> the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free.
>>
>> I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I
>> typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop
>> running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram).
>>
>> As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in
>> China also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but
>> didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows
>> laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet
>> Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works,
>> even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power.
>>
>> And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a
>> 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked
>> fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram.
>>
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Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Jesse Carroll]

For Tray Loading iMacs, it might be better to go to Ubuntu 9.04 for powerpc.

All CRT iMacs have slow USB 1.1 ports, so some ideas here won't work as
they need

USB2.0

I have an Early 2001 G3/600 SE Graphite running OS 10.4.11

1GB Ram

80GB 7200 rpm HDD.

It has run Ubuntu 9.04 fine, as has my 1999 PowerBook G3/333 Lombard,

which has to have XpostFacto to run OS 10.4.11.

UMMV

J.C.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield <
christopher1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me
> running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime
> soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of
> ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so
> the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free.
>
> I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I
> typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop
> running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram).
>
> As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China
> also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but
> didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows
> laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet
> Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works,
> even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power.
>
> And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a
> 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked
> fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram.
>
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Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Christopher Satterfield]

I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me
running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime
soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of
ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so
the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free.

I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I
typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop
running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram).

As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China
also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but
didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows
laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet
Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works,
even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power.

And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a
128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked
fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram.

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G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[D. Fabel]

See below.

On Jan 24, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Paul Brown wrote:

> I've just bought a similar iMac, which is G3 Blueberry 350Mhz slot loading. I 
> found out it would need an adaptor to install an Airport card and that nearly 
> all sellers of these on eBay were in Hong Kong or elsewhere in China, so it 
> would take some time to arrive. There's also the option of a USB WiFi 
> adaptor, but again nearly all sellers were in Hong Kong, or elsewhere in 
> China. It wouldn't even recongise a USB 3G dongle modem.

A good place for parts is the LEM Swap list.  I was able to get the airport 
card and adapter there for a reasonable price.

> I bought an Ethernet cable from a hardware store, after checking it was the 
> right type of Ethernet cable and connected to an Ethernet port on my WiFi 
> router. It currently has 192Mb of RAM and can be upgraded to 1Gb. How much 
> RAM should I have to run OS X without the big delays you mention?

I have 3 of these old slot loading iMacs, one with 1GB Ram, 768MB Ram, and 
512MB Ram.  All are currently running OS 10.4.  None of them are "zippy".  The 
512MB one really bogs down when more than one app is open at a time.  The 768MB 
and 1GB do seem to be able to handle multiple open apps at the same time, but 
again be prepared to be patient.  

> If I upgrade the RAM how to I make sure both RAM cards are recognised? My two 
> current RAM cards are 64Mb and 128Mb and one of them has slower RAM than the 
> other, but I read somewhere to get two RAM cards of the same type to make 
> sure they both work.

I don't think any of my Ram cards are matched pairs and I don't have any 
problems.  I think as long as the are PC100 or PC133 cards you should be ok, 
but I'll let others address that more specifically.

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Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Paul Brown]

I've just bought a similar iMac, which is G3 Blueberry 350Mhz slot loading.
I found out it would need an adaptor to install an Airport card and that
nearly all sellers of these on eBay were in Hong Kong or elsewhere in
China, so it would take some time to arrive. There's also the option of a
USB WiFi adaptor, but again nearly all sellers were in Hong Kong, or
elsewhere in China. It wouldn't even recongise a USB 3G dongle modem. I
bought an Ethernet cable from a hardware store, after checking it was the
right type of Ethernet cable and connected to an Ethernet port on my WiFi
router. It currently has 192Mb of RAM and can be upgraded to 1Gb. How much
RAM should I have to run OS X without the big delays you mention? If I
upgrade the RAM how to I make sure both RAM cards are recognised? My two
current RAM cards are 64Mb and 128Mb and one of them has slower RAM than
the other, but I read somewhere to get two RAM cards of the same type to
make sure they both work.

On 11 January 2012 03:41, Peter Haller  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram.
> 

 If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could
upgrade it to one of

> the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.
>
>

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Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 15, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of
>>> the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.
>> 
>> Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird 
>> issues that could cause this in 8.6
> 
> On a machine with 256 MB of RAM?  It's just not enough for OS X.  Expect to 
> spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled between RAM and 
> disk.  I'd try 9.2.2 first.

It would be sufficient to find out if the ethernet port works or not.


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Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Joshua Juran]

On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote:


Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of
the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.


Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host  
of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6


On a machine with 256 MB of RAM?  It's just not enough for OS X.   
Expect to spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled  
between RAM and disk.  I'd try 9.2.2 first.


Josh


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Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote:

> Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of
> the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.

Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird 
issues that could cause this in 8.6

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Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Dennis Faulkner]

I used to use mine with dial-up using earthlink, and then with Cox cable - mine played a 
lot of games it wasn't "supposed too" - I was told the extra RAM made up for a 
lot -

Dennis
San Diego

On Jan 10, 2012, at 07:41 PM, Peter Haller  wrote:


Hi everyone,
 I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram.
However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a
word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't
recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB
drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives.
However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get
it connected with the  outside world. If you have any ideas of how I
could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I
put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of
the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.

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Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram

[Peter Haller]

Hi everyone,
 I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram.
However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a
word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't
recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB
drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives.
However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get
it connected with the  outside world. If you have any ideas of how I
could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I
put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of
the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply.

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Re: iMac G5 makes my xmas sad (help)

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 25, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote:

> It sounds like a power supply issue or a processor issue. I had a Power Mac 
> G5 that would cause the take off mode when doing anything intensive, then it 
> would lock up, and it turned out I had a bad processor.

The key is that it's a G5. It's a power supply issue most likely; the G5 iMacs 
were the Mac model most affected by the great Capacitor Plague 
.

The service you're referring to almost certainly is a cap replacement service. 
There are services and kits available to do this for both the logic board and 
the power supply.


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Re: iMac G5 makes my xmas sad (help)

[Christopher Satterfield]

It sounds like a power supply issue or a processor issue. I had a Power Mac
G5 that would cause the take off mode when doing anything intensive, then
it would lock up, and it turned out I had a bad processor.

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iMac G5 makes my xmas sad (help)

[Charliefrown]

Hello, I bought this 17" iMac G5 1.9 Ghz iSight model with OSX
10.4.11. First issue I noticed was no response to Power button. The
seller gave me a tip, which turned out to be "resetting SMU
procedure". Sometimes it helps, sometimes it gets powered off in the
middle of BONG, figured out I need to pull the plug off, wait several
minutes and try again.Yesterday finally managed to spare some time to
play with it and there's another problem. When I use apps like Safari
or games it starts that horrible fan noise (just like jet engine) and
then... it gets to sleep! It wakes up successfully, but it happens
again. I would contribute this getting into "sleep mode" with
processor consuming apps. I guess it wouldnt get asleep when I was
tinkering with OSX itself.

My first diagnosis was bad power supply (regarding to Power On and
sleep issues), even managed to find a Mac shop which offers PSU fixes
for $20-$70. I am hesitating if I should give it a try and send it to
forementioned service or just call it off and ask seller for refund.

What's your bet - power supply or something worse like motherboard?
TIA

Mike

PS. I havent tried to dust off the grill yet.

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Jay Smith]

It makes sense. I always burn OS discs as slowly as possible. Baring in mind 
the age of the macs drives, they are of a time where it was common for many 
optical drives to have trouble reading burnt discs. 

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Mystic Prowler]

I am not sure why, but certain computers won't accept burnt discs, for these
reasons:

The recorded speed was too high for the CD/DVD to be read on this current
drive
The Mac simply doesn't accept burnt discs
Or, there might be a special coding inside the Mac installer discs that tell
the system it's legit.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Jay Smith wrote:

> Mine is running 10.4 using burnt discs. -r I belive
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 17 Jan 2011, at 08:12, bit...@ovi.com wrote:
>
> > i coul'd boot mine with a burnt OS 9.2.2 disk :p
> >
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Jay Smith]

Mine is running 10.4 using burnt discs. -r I belive 

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> i coul'd boot mine with a burnt OS 9.2.2 disk :p 
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

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i coul'd boot mine with a burnt OS 9.2.2 disk :p 

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Haila Vickland]

You can try ebay.com. Older software is often sold by ebay. Also try:
www.lowendmac.com. It would also be helpful to post your question on
the mac site on Craigslist. I have an old imac of the same vintage
(M5521) and I like it a lot.

On 1/13/11, Dan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I brought an original imac (Model M5521) as a basic machine for my 4
> year old to play on (it was $25)
> I thought it was a bargain in a state of stupidity really.
> I love these old looking imacs (have a new one now)
>
> My question is how do i get it to run. I have tried a few torrents
> online to get disks but none of them seem to work.
> Does anyone have any ideas and does apple sell the original install
> disks?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dan
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Christopher Satterfield]

The G3 iMacs only will boot from original disks (not burnt ones). Yours has
anywhere between 64 and 256 Mb of ram unless it has been upgraded which
means that if you have 64 Mb you can boot Mac OS 9.2.2 at the most and if
you have 128 Mb or more you can boot OS X (depends on ram as to what
version).

I would check on your local craigslist, freecycle, etc to see if there are
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[skyvalley4jesus]

Hi Dan,

You could also try contacting Apple direct.  I contacted Apple when
the original OS disc for my G4 iMac broke.  They charged like $25 to
replace the system disk.

Best of luck.

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> Hi,
>
> I brought an original imac (Model M5521) as a basic machine for my 4
> year old to play on (it was $25)
> I thought it was a bargain in a state of stupidity really.
> I love these old looking imacs (have a new one now)
>
> My question is how do i get it to run. I have tried a few torrents
> online to get disks but none of them seem to work.
> Does anyone have any ideas and does apple sell the original install
> disks?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dan

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Jack Suggs]

You can post a Want To Buy on the LEM swap list, or check the eBay... Here's
an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/iMac-OS-9-OS-X-10-1-2-Install-plus-Software-Restore-/230571342486?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35af1f7a96

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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Jay Smith]

I think that's a great idea. There are other distro's out there and this 
article lists the best...

http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/43224.aspx

With regards to the original question, apple don't sell them, eBay has many for 
sale. 

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> Foolish answer:  there is a live Linux called "Doudou Linux" especially for 
> small children.  It runs only off the CD and runs on less abled machines, 
> likely on yours.  You could query the name on Distrowatch.com, and download 
> and install the ISO on a CD.
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Dave]

Foolish answer:  there is a live Linux called "Doudou Linux" especially for
small children.  It runs only off the CD and runs on less abled machines,
likely on yours.  You could query the name on Distrowatch.com, and download
and install the ISO on a CD.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote:

> Do what I did, get the disk out, install tiger one computer, take it out,
> plug it back in the iMac and boot. If not, I do have some install disks for
> the original iMac, but I don't think you'll want to work with an OS older
> than 10.2.
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I brought an original imac (Model M5521) as a basic machine for my 4
>> year old to play on (it was $25)
>> I thought it was a bargain in a state of stupidity really.
>> I love these old looking imacs (have a new one now)
>>
>> My question is how do i get it to run. I have tried a few torrents
>> online to get disks but none of them seem to work.
>> Does anyone have any ideas and does apple sell the original install
>> disks?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Re: Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Mystic Prowler]

Do what I did, get the disk out, install tiger one computer, take it out,
plug it back in the iMac and boot. If not, I do have some install disks for
the original iMac, but I don't think you'll want to work with an OS older
than 10.2.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Dan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I brought an original imac (Model M5521) as a basic machine for my 4
> year old to play on (it was $25)
> I thought it was a bargain in a state of stupidity really.
> I love these old looking imacs (have a new one now)
>
> My question is how do i get it to run. I have tried a few torrents
> online to get disks but none of them seem to work.
> Does anyone have any ideas and does apple sell the original install
> disks?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dan
>

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Help with second hand iMac G3 with no operating system or disks

[Dan]

Hi,

I brought an original imac (Model M5521) as a basic machine for my 4
year old to play on (it was $25)
I thought it was a bargain in a state of stupidity really.
I love these old looking imacs (have a new one now)

My question is how do i get it to run. I have tried a few torrents
online to get disks but none of them seem to work.
Does anyone have any ideas and does apple sell the original install
disks?

Cheers

Dan

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Eric Volker]

> I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that there
> will be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been hearing that for
> ten years.
>
> Any day now.
>
>
I do wish you'd let those wonderful IT folks know about your discovery. I
was delighted to discover recently that my company has finally adopted a VPN
client that is supported on the Mac...but that requires antivirus software
be installed on your Mac.Doh!

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Joshua Juran]

On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Ashgrove wrote:


On Sep 8, 2:09 pm, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that  
there will be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been  
hearing that for ten years.


Note that classic Mac OS users should (a) install the Disinfectant  
INIT, (b) disable auto-start in the QuickTime control panel, and (c)  
find some way to avoid the spread of Word macro viruses (such as not  
running versions of Word later than 5.1).  Fortunately, these are all  
free.



Amen to that. As a late switcher, it took me nearly a year to finally
get rid of ClamXav, and a full three years till I finally tuned out
all those apocalyptic pundits.

Now, if I could stop people from sneezing on my Macs...


Isn't there an app for that?  ;-)

Josh


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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Tina K.]

Ivan Bayter wrote:

My sister just sent me this email it was send from my mac to her but I
did not send it, and today when I turn my pc on I found that my date was
wrong and also ask me a lot of question about allowing or denying
  incoming networks, please I don't know what to do, the first thing I
asked when I bought my PC was if it was a antivirus for my mac and the
sales guy told me they do not need it, is this true? where do you go to
clean my PC ? I live in the Toronto area


In my nine years of using OS X I have never been infected with any sort 
of malware. Yes when they spoof your email address to send spam, or send 
you spam that appears to come from your own email account, it is 
disconcerting at first until you realize that it was just a spoof.


I have run ClamXAV here and there and the only thing it ever found was 
something in a Windows font application, never anything that was even 
capable of running on OS X.


I do seem to remember once reading about a malformed .jpg that was 
posted in some Mac forum pretending to be some sort of spy shot of new 
Apple hardware or something, and again a QuickTime 'updater' that some 
adult site would try to convince unwitting OS X users to install, and 
there were allegedly some infected copies of iWork or CS or something 
floating around the bittorrent world. Download known software from 
legitimate sites and you'll be ok.


The biggest risk as others have mentioned is phishing. When someone asks 
for your personal information think twice before you hit the submit button.


Tina

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Ashgrove]

On Sep 8, 2:09 pm, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
> I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that there will 
> be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been hearing that for ten 
> years.


Amen to that. As a late switcher, it took me nearly a year to finally
get rid of ClamXav, and a full three years till I finally tuned out
all those apocalyptic pundits.

Now, if I could stop people from sneezing on my Macs...

F

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> 
> And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
> this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
> sell preventative software.
> 
> I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
> will set the record straight if this is wrong.

With the caveat that Anecdote != Data :

I've been using Macs since 1987, and helping to administer a reasonably large 
institution's (mainly WIndows-based) systems since 1994. 

In all that time:

There have been occasional "proofs of concept" malware releases for OS X, but 
they have never propagated very far, if at all. I've never seen one in the wild 
here.

All the malware that our current AV systems see are 100% Windows-based. (and 
they do have the Mac malware profiles included) The ONLY stuff we've ever 
caught on Macs are Windows-oriented email attachments that came in on HD's from 
other institutions.

I have *once* run into websites doing funky stuff to Mac-identifiable web 
browsers, that was about two years ago, and it didn't last very long.

I've twice run into seriously malformed malware websites that have tried very 
hard to convince me that my "C:\Windows" directory was infected with a long 
list of nasty-sounding bits of software.

I got the WDEF virus spread pretty nastily through my stack of System 6 floppy 
disks, which updating to System 7 cured.

That's about it.

I never got caught by the later classic Mac viruses because all you had to do 
to avoid those was turn of Program Autoexecution in the Quicktime Control panel.

I've been told that you can occasionally find Word Macro viruses lurking about 
in old, moldering software and mailing list archives, although those may also 
be "...and then they found a HOOK in the fender of the car!!!" tales.

I keep getting told by authoritative folks in the IT industry that there will 
be a flood of OS X malware "any day now"; I've been hearing that for ten years.

Any day now.

(and it's not a matter of market share...I've witnessed a bit of PC malware go 
around that was aimed at a specific firewall product that probably had a 
worldwide distribution in the low 10,000's of copies.)

-- 
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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Ashgrove]

Oh boy. Here we go again.

By the way, nowadays viruses other than malware are usually nothing
more than that: something a company cooks up to
scare computer users into buying their product. And the most effective
forms of malware are not viruses, but phishing, which require you to
actively go to their fake websites and voluntarily give them all your
personal info --something that afflicts PCs and Macs alike.

F

On Sep 8, 12:03 pm, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio"
 wrote:
> We took a poll years ago on the PCI list. Out of responses from that list
> and soem who responded with figures from other lists of about 2,500 listers
> only one real virus was found and that was something a company cooked up to
> scare Mac users into buying their product.
>
> And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
> this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
> sell preventative software.
>
> I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
> will set the record straight if this is wrong.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

We took a poll years ago on the PCI list. Out of responses from that list
and soem who responded with figures from other lists of about 2,500 listers
only one real virus was found and that was something a company cooked up to
scare Mac users into buying their product.

And I read nothing of the current state of affairs to lead me to believe
this has changed. If Mac OS X infecting bugs are out there they exist to
sell preventative software.

I'm sure Bruce or someone who must administer IT for a large installation
will set the record straight if this is wrong.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Bill Chapman  wrote:

>  I have Virtual PC 7 installed on 2 Macs. Here is confirmation that Macs
> can be infected:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828574
>
>
> On 08/09/10 12:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove  wrote:
>
>> Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
>> possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...
>>
>>  -- __
>
> Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's
> problem.
>
> I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of the
> HD can be infected.
>
> Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any
> credible report of one in the "wild".
>
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
>
>
>
---_------
++===

By that you mean WINBLOWs running on a Mac can be infected, of course. Not
the Mac OS.

In keeping with what I posted.










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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Bill Chapman]

 I have Virtual PC 7 installed on 2 Macs. Here is confirmation that 
Macs can be infected:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828574


On 08/09/10 12:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:



On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove > wrote:


Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...

-- __

Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's 
problem.


I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of 
the HD can be infected.


Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any 
credible report of one in the "wild".



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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Al Poulin]

On Sep 8, 8:16 am, Jack Suggs  wrote:
> Correction: That's "Mac Antivirus"... although for some guys, "Man
> Antivirus" might be a good thing to have.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Jack Suggs  wrote:
> > Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are
> > you using?
>
> > FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus...
>
> >http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> >http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


Hmmm, did I see $$$ signs and snakeoil in the top hits?

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Jack Suggs]

Correction: That's "Mac Antivirus"... although for some guys, "Man
Antivirus" might be a good thing to have.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Jack Suggs  wrote:

> Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are
> you using?
>
> FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus...
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Jack Suggs]

Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are
you using?

FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus...

http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Ashgrove]

Er... Adrian... "cold virus"? It was a joke, of course, although not a
good one.

Personally, I used ClamXav for a while when I first switched from
Windows, until I finally realized it was a waste of RAM and
uninstalled it.

The OP seems to have several problems, all apparently unrelated, but
until we get more info, like Bruce suggested, it's all guesswork.

F


On Sep 8, 12:08 am, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio"
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove  wrote:
> > Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
> > possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...
>
> > -- __
>
> Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's problem.
>
> I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of the HD
> can be infected.
>
> Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any
> credible report of one in the "wild".
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
>
> fluxstrin...@gmail.com
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringerhttp://www.facebook.com/FluxStringerhttp://www.linkedin.com 
>   
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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove  wrote:

> Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
> possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...
>
> -- __

Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's problem.

I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is "ON" a Mac That part of the HD
can be infected.

Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any
credible report of one in the "wild".


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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Ashgrove]

Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly
possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it...

Felix

On Sep 7, 7:20 pm, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" 
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>  Virus ON your Mac ? Highly unlikely unless you run Windows on the machine.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

 Virus ON your Mac ? Highly unlikely unless you run Windows on the machine.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Ivan Bayter wrote:

> Hello guys,
> My sister just sent me this email it was send from my mac to her but I did 
> not send it, and today when I turn my pc on I found that my date was wrong 
> and also ask me a lot of question about allowing or denying  incoming 
> networks, please I don't know what to do, the first thing I asked when I 
> bought my PC was if it was a antivirus for my mac and the sales guy told me 
> they do not need it, is this true? where do you go to clean my PC ? I live in 
> the Toronto area

First things first.

First of all,tell us what Mac, what version of the OS you're using.

I can state that the email message in your sister's email box almost certainly 
(99.%) did NOT come from your computer...spam just doesn't work that way 
these days. The From: line is almost certainly forged.

Second the date being wrong is more likely due to a dead PRAM battery, and your 
normal wireless network wasn't enabled for some reason? There is no dialog I 
can think of you could get that would ask abot 'allowing or denying' incoming 
networks.

Tell us *exactly* what the error says.

Finally, the odds are enormously *against* you having a virus on your mac.

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Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Robert MacLeay]

On Sep 7, 10:42 am, Ivan Bayter  wrote:
> Hello guys,
> My sister just sent me this email it was send from my mac to her but I did 
> not send it, and today when I turn my pc on I found that my date was wrong 
> and also ask me a lot of question about allowing or denying  incoming 
> networks, please I don't know what to do, the first thing I asked when I 
> bought my PC was if it was a antivirus for my mac and the sales guy told me 
> they do not need it, is this true? where do you go to clean my PC ? I live in 
> the Toronto area

You almost certainly do not have a virus.

It is most probable that the email was NOT sent from your computer; it
was sent from your HOTMAIL account. Someone has stolen or guessed your
password and is using your Hotmail account to send spam from their own
computer.

Change your password now!

Your second problem is your Mac forgetting things. Is it several years
old? When Macs forget dates, it is usually because the batteries
inside them have died and need to be replaced. The incoming networks
questions indicate that you need to adjust your firewall settings.
Instructions for doing so require knowing what version of the
operating system your Mac is running.

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How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !

[Ivan Bayter]

Hello guys,
My sister just sent me this email it was send from my mac to her but I did not 
send it, and today when I turn my pc on I found that my date was wrong and also 
ask me a lot of question about allowing or denying  incoming networks, please I 
don't know what to do, the first thing I asked when I bought my PC was if it 
was a antivirus for my mac and the sales guy told me they do not need it, is 
this true? where do you go to clean my PC ? I live in the Toronto area

Thanks,

IBM

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ivette Bayter Malkun 
> Date: September 7, 2010 12:28:44 PM EDT
> To: Ivan Bayter 
> Subject: Fw: hey,
> 
> creo que tienes un virus..revisa
> 
> - Forwarded Message 
> From: Ivan Bayter 
> Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 11:26:49 AM
> Subject: hey,
> 
> hey,
> how are you those days ? 
>  i will tell you a good news ,i bought a notebook from this site ,it is 
> orignal ,very cheap price ,fast shipping ,you can check it   www.BumperB.com 
> ,they also sell tvs ,mobilephones ,cameras ,gps and so on 
> thanks 
> best regards  
> 
>  Ivan Bayter
> 
> 

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Re: eMac help

[Tina K.]

Isaac Smith wrote:


3: will a non-Apple branded DVD drive be able to be used to boot a Leopard disk?


Yes, any brand should be fine for reading optical discs. However if you 
are using 10.1 through 10.4 you may have issues burning discs with iLife 
apps such as iDVD, possibly others. Apparently this became a non-issue 
with 10.5.





>  How do I eject the cd tray through OSx without a keyboard? I don't have a 
Mac keyboard yet and so I don't have the eject key.


Hold down the left-click button (or just the button) on your mouse and the CD 
will eject.


Holding down the left mouse button after the boot-up chime will eject 
the optical disc. To eject without rebooting hold down the F12 key for a 
second or two.


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Re: eMac help

[Isaac Smith]

> I just got my hands on a salvageable eMac from school.
> It’s got a 1.25ghz G4 and a 40gb hdd.
> I replaced the damaged CD drive with my own DVD drive and now I’ve got a few 
> questions:
> 1: does it take any DDR ram or do I need special ram?

It does take DDR RAM, but just with any other machine, you'll have to make sure 
you install the right type. Here's what OWC offers: 
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=199&type=Memory&TI=1150&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades

> 2: Is the eMac painted the same way as a G3 iBook (500+mhz) or is the whole 
> case white?

The whole case is white.

> 3: will a non-Apple branded DVD drive be able to be used to boot a Leopard 
> disk?

I've got a Pioneer-branded drive that I installed myself in the eMac currently. 
I've installed operating systems and burnt DVDs—even though it's not the 
default drive, it works like a charm.

> And finally:
> How do I eject the cd tray through OSx without a keyboard? I don’t have a Mac 
> keyboard yet and so I don’t have the eject key.

Hold down the left-click button (or just the button) on your mouse and the CD 
will eject.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your new eMac!

Isaac

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eMac help

[LEMLists]

I just got my hands on a salvageable eMac from school.

It's got a 1.25ghz G4 and a 40gb hdd.

I replaced the damaged CD drive with my own DVD drive and now I've got a few
questions:

1: does it take any DDR ram or do I need special ram?

2: Is the eMac painted the same way as a G3 iBook (500+mhz) or is the whole
case white?

3: will a non-Apple branded DVD drive be able to be used to boot a Leopard
disk?

And finally:

How do I eject the cd tray through OSx without a keyboard? I don't have a
Mac keyboard yet and so I don't have the eject key.

Thanks

 

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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Gerald Uhlan]

On 2/28/10 12:00 PM, "Christian Wacker"  wrote:

>> 
>> I figured out how to keep Classic on my G4 iMac (flat panel iLamp style) AND
>> still run 10.5 (Leopard).  Unfortunately, not at the same time.  I
>> partitioned my HD and installed Tiger on the new partition.  Then when I
>> need Classic, I just restart in Tiger.  It was the only way I could run the
>> one Classic app I need without having to keep my old G3 iMac up and running
>> and still use Leopard for everything else.
>> 
> Wouldn't Sheep Shaver work for you in this situation? I thought it was
> developed because Apple dropped support for Classic, and somebody
> still needed a Classic app running on Leopard.

It might, if I could figure it out...  There's no installer or clear
instructions on how to use it.  I tried and gave up on it.


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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Christian Wacker wrote:


Wouldn't Sheep Shaver work for you in this situation? I thought it was
developed because Apple dropped support for Classic, and somebody
still needed a Classic app running on Leopard.


Actually SheepShaver was developed so that someone running BeOS or  
Linux on PPC could run Mac apps, and it predates OS X (Sheepshaver was  
released in 1998)


The other issue with SheepShaver is that it's limited to 9.0.4 as the  
highest Mac OS it can run, unfortunately this means you have to drum  
up an OS 9.0 CD, as the freely available NetBoot image is 9.2.2. A  
minor point and not an issue if you have one.


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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Christian Wacker]

>
> I figured out how to keep Classic on my G4 iMac (flat panel iLamp style) AND
> still run 10.5 (Leopard).  Unfortunately, not at the same time.  I
> partitioned my HD and installed Tiger on the new partition.  Then when I
> need Classic, I just restart in Tiger.  It was the only way I could run the
> one Classic app I need without having to keep my old G3 iMac up and running
> and still use Leopard for everything else.
>
Wouldn't Sheep Shaver work for you in this situation? I thought it was
developed because Apple dropped support for Classic, and somebody
still needed a Classic app running on Leopard.

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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Gerald Uhlan]

On 2/20/10 3:13 PM, "Bill Chapman"  wrote:

> Yeah, one of these days... if for nothing more than to have it as an
> emergency backup... also I'll stay with tiger there so i can keep
> classic around.
> 

I figured out how to keep Classic on my G4 iMac (flat panel iLamp style) AND
still run 10.5 (Leopard).  Unfortunately, not at the same time.  I
partitioned my HD and installed Tiger on the new partition.  Then when I
need Classic, I just restart in Tiger.  It was the only way I could run the
one Classic app I need without having to keep my old G3 iMac up and running
and still use Leopard for everything else.


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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Bill Chapman]

Thanks, Kasey, but my G4 tower has been unplugged, moved up an Ikea 
shelf and supplanted by my 'new' G5 which is awaiting a dvi-to-adc 
connector (ordered today from the apple store.ca) for my apple 17" flat 
panel cinema adc display. I'm not going to fool around with the damaged 
g4 anytime soon... i'm hard at work building a 40+ page web site on my 
pb, and once the connector arrives i'll dive into configuring that, or 
at least try to run the display from the pb, which has a dvi connector


Kasey Smith wrote:
Flip the side down and look at the top of the hard drive, and was it 
makeing the clunk, ca-clunk, ca-clunk noise?

On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Bill Chapman wrote:

I have no idea... it might not even be the hard drive, although 
Friday morning it booted up at first and then when i started up 
dreamweaver the mac started to make a repeating noise and wouldn't 
progress...I tried a restart and got the question mark flashing (and 
interchanging with the old mac os logo). Tried starting up with the 
original tiger disks, but no hd found. Then started up with 
DiskWarrior 4... same thing, hd found.


I'm not a techie so it could be something else as far as I know


Kasey Smith wrote:


On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Bill Chapman wrote:

Yeah, one of these days... if for nothing more than to have it as 
an emergency backup... also I'll stay with tiger there so i can 
keep classic around.


Kasey Smith wrote:


On Feb 20, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bill Chapman wrote:

Thanks Cyrus, my G5 is also Dual 2.0GHz... yeah I'm totally 
excited about getting such a powerhouse (499.00CDN) although I'll 
have to wait a bit since I need to grab an apple dvi to adc 
adapter for my flat-panel display. In the meantime i can continue 
merrily along on my ti g4 powerbook (1.6GHz, Leopard)... my g4 
tower hd died yesterday...I'm in the middle of a 40+ page web 
site design... good thing I back up to an external hd 2-3 times a 
day, and disks regularly.


New HD for the G4 then?



Just curious, but what kind of hard drive was it that died?




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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Bill Chapman]

I'm a graphic artist currently designing web sites... you gave me info 
re VPC7,which is currently running well on my ti pb on leopard...I can't 
wait to try vpc on the g5




Christian Wacker wrote:

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Bill Chapman  wrote:
  

I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is
better on G5 than Leopard?



With a Dual 2.0GHZ G5, you can easily run Leopard. I would even
recommend it if you plan on doing anything besides just web browsing.
(and even then, you'll be better off using the latest version that can
run on it) Running Tiger is like... well... putting on a shirt from
the 70's because some girl said you looked good in it the first time
you wore it. It was good then, but there are better things out there
for you now.
Just my 2 cents.
-Christian.

  


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Re: Upgrade Help Required

[Christian Wacker]

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Bill Chapman  wrote:
> I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is
> better on G5 than Leopard?
>
With a Dual 2.0GHZ G5, you can easily run Leopard. I would even
recommend it if you plan on doing anything besides just web browsing.
(and even then, you'll be better off using the latest version that can
run on it) Running Tiger is like... well... putting on a shirt from
the 70's because some girl said you looked good in it the first time
you wore it. It was good then, but there are better things out there
for you now.
Just my 2 cents.
-Christian.

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