[Mac-access]: How to check grammar with spelling

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’d like my Mac to check for grammar errors and have seen a button but 
it is always dimmed.  where can I turn this on?

I tried searching with spotlight and looking in system preferences under 
keyboard and looked with spelling under the text tab but no joy for grammar.

Help appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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[Mac-access]: Pear Note, any Voice Over success Stories?

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’d Like to use Pear Note on my iPad or phone.  It seems vO friendly.  Is 
anyone finding it works for them?  I’m having a bit of trouble mastering it but 
it seems like it could be me more then the app.

This app records while you take notes and then later you can touch the note and 
hear the recording near the spot where you took the note.

I’m using the iOS app but there is a companion mac app.

Eric Caron 

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Re: [Mac-access]: unable to reply to emails

[Eric Caron]

Hi Judy,

do you get a error message back from the list or some other information?

My reply problems usually have to do with using the wrong email to reply.   
Make sure it is the address you used to subscribe to the list.  if your reply 
is from your new address it will bounce back.

Eric Caron 

> On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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> since changing my email account to gmail I am unable to reply to messages in 
> this group and another  group I belong to, why? I can forward a message and 
> create a new one I hope, but not reply.
> Help please
> Judy
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[Mac-access]: How can I get my Exchange calendar onto the Mac?ma

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

Is anyone out there able to get there mac to show their Microsoft exchange 
calendar?

I have my work emails from my Exchange account showing up on my Mac and work PC 
but the calendars don’t seem to be talking to each other.  Interestingly my 
iPad shows all my calendars and that is great!

How can I get my mac to also show my exchange calendar events?

I have calendars turned on in iCloud. 
And again my exchange mail is showing up correctly.  

I looked at preferences in calendar and made sure  under accounts the enable 
check box is checked. 

tips are greatly appreciated.
And just knowing if someone else has it working would be helpful.

Eric Caron 


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Re: [Mac-access]: looking for a good book reader

[Eric Caron]

Voice Dream Reader.

this is a amazing app and worth the money.

Eric Caron 


> On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I have an audio book in MP3 that I am going to put into DropBox, and I plan 
> on listening to it on my iPhone.
> I want to be able to adjust the pitch (speed).
> What is a good free app for this?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Glenn 
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Re: [Mac-access]: file format in pages question

[Eric Caron]

Hi Anne and others,


is there any way to tell pages to just save in word as the default?  It 
seems even when I try to save a .dox file Pages insists on making it into a 
pages file unless I go through export every time.  this is pretty time 
consuming.

is there a fast way to open then save a word file?

Thanks, I’m starting to feel like I need to push my Pages skills a bit.

Eric Caron 



> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Cait,
> 
> To save a Pages document in another format you need to use Export to which is 
> in the File menu. The available formats are: PDF, Word, Plain Text, EPUB and 
> Pages09.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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>> On 6 Jan 2015, at 14:16, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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>> hi,
>> How can I select a different file format for a pages document other then the 
>> default .pages one?  when I pulled up the save dialog, I didn’t see any 
>> choices for the file format and it already had the .pages one selected..
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Cait
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Re: [Mac-access]: Is item chooser broken in Yosemite?

[Eric Caron]

Hi sarah, David, and others,

I checked activities and turns out I had them all turned off.  so that 
was not the Safari Item chooser problem.

I remember once there was a way to reset Safari, can someone remind me where to 
find that option?  I looked and could not find it.

Eric Caron 




> On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> Actually that might be the problem. I noticed that activities are often slow 
> hence why I don't use them. You can how ever switch to them with I think vo X 
> on the fly.
> 
> Blessings and happy Thursday
>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>>  Thanks for your continued input on my slow item chooser problem.  I’d 
>> love to have mine working like yours.  I get busy busy in safari even with 
>> the site is small with fewer items.  If I wait a very long time the item 
>> chooser will finally say it is loading items.  So I don’t think it matters 
>> what site we compare.  
>> 
>>  I am using the Alex voice and I’m pretty sure I am using a activity 
>> that turns on quick nav when i start safari.
>> 
>> I’m using a 2012 Retina 15 inch I7 with 16 gigs of ram and a  SSD  .  this 
>> should give me speed and that is why I set it up that way.  
>> 
>>  i miss the item chooser as it was a quick way to find things.
>> 
>> This happens even with only mail or even nothing else open on my Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips for what I might try.  
>> 
>> At least I know others are not having this problem so eventually I should 
>> get the useful Item chooser behavior back.
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 6:02 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think we need to compare websites  as I am not getting this at all.
>>> In fact the feature of item chooser is that I no longer get the busy 
>>> message, because of the new system. I certainly did under Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> The previous website I tried was www.bbc.co.uk/news and the symptoms you 
>>> describe did not occur.
>>> 
>>> I just went to one of the biggest and most complicated pages I know 
>>> http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United 
>>> <http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United>
>>> 
>>> I again hit item   chooser but did not get a busy message. Pressing end on 
>>> my keyboard did jump  me down to a loading more messages announcement  at 
>>> the end of the chooser list.
>>> 
>>> If you are getting busy messages on these pages then your Mac is not 
>>> behaving as mine and possibly something else  is up..
>>> 
>>> Just to check that you are using the Alex voice? If I use Scansoft voices 
>>> Safari starts to glue up something terrible which may account for it.
>>> Using Activities and Scansoft Voices makes a very poor experience in Safari 
>>> I find.
>>> I am using a 2011 iMac  with 16 GB of ram. I aisles use a SSD primary drive.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 06:24, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>>Can you describe what you do to get access so quickly?  In my case i 
>>>> start item chooser and Safari says busy until I give up and press escape.  
>>>> It then says something like 19 items loaded canceling item chooser. if I 
>>>> don’t hit escape it just keeps saying busy.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:34 AM, David Griffith  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would not say it has broken but it has definitely changed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What appears to happen now is that it is  available almost immediately 
>>>>> but continues to increase in length of the chooser as you wait. . What 
>>>>> used to happen is that on big web pages it would take a time for the item 
>>>>> chooser to come up but then it would all be there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now  it comes up with the first 22 elements  almost immediately and 
>>>>> continues  to grow. I think this is what is happening but have no sighted 
>>>>> help to confirm this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I went to www.bbc.co.uk/news and hit item chooser. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Thirst items on the chooser  were all items in the tool bar as 
>>>>>

Re: [Mac-access]: Is item chooser broken in Yosemite?

[Eric Caron]

Hi David,

Thanks for your continued input on my slow item chooser problem.  I’d 
love to have mine working like yours.  I get busy busy in safari even with the 
site is small with fewer items.  If I wait a very long time the item chooser 
will finally say it is loading items.  So I don’t think it matters what site we 
compare.  

I am using the Alex voice and I’m pretty sure I am using a activity 
that turns on quick nav when i start safari.

I’m using a 2012 Retina 15 inch I7 with 16 gigs of ram and a  SSD  .  this 
should give me speed and that is why I set it up that way.  

i miss the item chooser as it was a quick way to find things.

This happens even with only mail or even nothing else open on my Mac.

Thanks for any tips for what I might try.  

At least I know others are not having this problem so eventually I should get 
the useful Item chooser behavior back.


Eric Caron 

> On Jan 1, 2015, at 6:02 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think we need to compare websites  as I am not getting this at all.
> In fact the feature of item chooser is that I no longer get the busy message, 
> because of the new system. I certainly did under Mavericks.
> 
> The previous website I tried was www.bbc.co.uk/news and the symptoms you 
> describe did not occur.
> 
> I just went to one of the biggest and most complicated pages I know 
> http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United 
> <http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/West+Ham+United>
> 
> I again hit item   chooser but did not get a busy message. Pressing end on my 
> keyboard did jump  me down to a loading more messages announcement  at the 
> end of the chooser list.
> 
> If you are getting busy messages on these pages then your Mac is not behaving 
> as mine and possibly something else  is up..
> 
> Just to check that you are using the Alex voice? If I use Scansoft voices 
> Safari starts to glue up something terrible which may account for it.
> Using Activities and Scansoft Voices makes a very poor experience in Safari I 
> find.
> I am using a 2011 iMac  with 16 GB of ram. I aisles use a SSD primary drive.
> 
> David Griffith 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 06:24, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>>  Can you describe what you do to get access so quickly?  In my case i 
>> start item chooser and Safari says busy until I give up and press escape.  
>> It then says something like 19 items loaded canceling item chooser. if I 
>> don’t hit escape it just keeps saying busy.
>> 
>> Eric Caron  
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:34 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would not say it has broken but it has definitely changed.
>>> 
>>> What appears to happen now is that it is  available almost immediately but 
>>> continues to increase in length of the chooser as you wait. . What used to 
>>> happen is that on big web pages it would take a time for the item chooser 
>>> to come up but then it would all be there.
>>> 
>>> Now  it comes up with the first 22 elements  almost immediately and 
>>> continues  to grow. I think this is what is happening but have no sighted 
>>> help to confirm this.
>>> 
>>> So I went to www.bbc.co.uk/news and hit item chooser. 
>>> 
>>> The Thirst items on the chooser  were all items in the tool bar as expected 
>>> but if I continually hit the end key on my keyboard the last item available 
>>> on the item chooser was changing as further elements from the page was read 
>>> into the list.
>>> So if I am trying to find an element on the page and the list has not yet 
>>> expanded to include all the elements of the page it is very possible that 
>>> it would  not have got around to reading  the necessary element into the 
>>> list and will not work. .
>>> 
>>> I guess this takes a bit of getting used to. The upside is that if you want 
>>> to identify something at the top  of the page, especially in the Safari 
>>> toolbar it is quicker than the old system, the downside is that there is no 
>>> real way of telling when the list is fully populated apart from hitting the 
>>> end key to jump to the bottom of the list and seeing where it has got up to 
>>> on the page. It may also be slower at accessing elements at the end of 
>>> pages than the old system.
>>> 
>>> I think this is what is happening.
>>> David Griffith  
>>>> On 29 Dec 2014, at 14:18, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi listers,
>>>> 
>>>>Ever since I update

Re: [Mac-access]: Is item chooser broken in Yosemite?

[Eric Caron]

Hi David,

Can you describe what you do to get access so quickly?  In my case i 
start item chooser and Safari says busy until I give up and press escape.  It 
then says something like 19 items loaded canceling item chooser. if I don’t hit 
escape it just keeps saying busy.

Eric Caron  

> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:34 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> I would not say it has broken but it has definitely changed.
> 
> What appears to happen now is that it is  available almost immediately but 
> continues to increase in length of the chooser as you wait. . What used to 
> happen is that on big web pages it would take a time for the item chooser to 
> come up but then it would all be there.
> 
> Now  it comes up with the first 22 elements  almost immediately and continues 
>  to grow. I think this is what is happening but have no sighted help to 
> confirm this.
> 
> So I went to www.bbc.co.uk/news and hit item chooser. 
> 
> The Thirst items on the chooser  were all items in the tool bar as expected 
> but if I continually hit the end key on my keyboard the last item available 
> on the item chooser was changing as further elements from the page was read 
> into the list.
> So if I am trying to find an element on the page and the list has not yet 
> expanded to include all the elements of the page it is very possible that it 
> would  not have got around to reading  the necessary element into the list 
> and will not work. .
> 
> I guess this takes a bit of getting used to. The upside is that if you want 
> to identify something at the top  of the page, especially in the Safari 
> toolbar it is quicker than the old system, the downside is that there is no 
> real way of telling when the list is fully populated apart from hitting the 
> end key to jump to the bottom of the list and seeing where it has got up to 
> on the page. It may also be slower at accessing elements at the end of pages 
> than the old system.
> 
> I think this is what is happening.
> David Griffith  
>> On 29 Dec 2014, at 14:18, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've noticed I can't use item chooser 
>> in most situations. Especially in safari it just hangs up and when I hit the 
>> escape key it cancels. It never actually finishes loading in the items. Are 
>> other people having this problem? Is there a fix? Thanks. It would be nice 
>> to know if I'm not alone.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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[Mac-access]: Is item chooser broken in Yosemite?

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've noticed I can't use item chooser 
in most situations. Especially in safari it just hangs up and when I hit the 
escape key it cancels. It never actually finishes loading in the items. Are 
other people having this problem? Is there a fix? Thanks. It would be nice to 
know if I'm not alone.

Eric Caron 
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to stop hearing unnecessary repeated info

[Eric Caron]

OK,

I found a solution.  I went to the VO utility under speech and then to 
pronunciation. I added [Mac-access]: in the text edit area and then tabbed over 
to the substitution area and pressed space bar.  I chose mail as the app and 
now that repeated text is ignored. I had trouble doing this as I found only 
tabbing back and forth in the table works otherwise your text and the 
substitution end up in the same edit field.

I plan to add more text like this and quiet down my mail!

Eric Caron 

> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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> 
> Hi sarah,
> 
> I did this but found only default and Custom.  I could not find a option for 
> none under viewing.
> 
> Eric Caron 
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> 1. go to mail prefs.
>> 2. go to viewing and set the headers to none. 
>> 
>> Hth.
>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I’m on many lists including this one where each message title comes 
>>> with chatter like left bracket Blaugh Blaugh Right bracket . Is there a way 
>>> to get Voice Over to recognize this text and replace it with either silence 
>>> or a shortened version?
>>> 
>>> thanks for any tips.
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to stop hearing unnecessary repeated info

[Eric Caron]

Hi sarah,

I did this but found only default and Custom.  I could not find a option for 
none under viewing.

Eric Caron 
> On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> 1. go to mail prefs.
> 2. go to viewing and set the headers to none. 
> 
> Hth.
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>>  I’m on many lists including this one where each message title comes 
>> with chatter like left bracket Blaugh Blaugh Right bracket . Is there a way 
>> to get Voice Over to recognize this text and replace it with either silence 
>> or a shortened version?
>> 
>> thanks for any tips.
>> 
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[Mac-access]: How to stop hearing unnecessary repeated info

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’m on many lists including this one where each message title comes 
with chatter like left bracket Blaugh Blaugh Right bracket . Is there a way to 
get Voice Over to recognize this text and replace it with either silence or a 
shortened version?

thanks for any tips.

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[Mac-access]: Help setting up mac-Access mail account

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I’m having trouble setting up Mac-Accesss  in mail on my new iPad.

I suspect i’m messing up the out going and in coming server names.

Can someone tell me exactly what to place in those fields?

I’m looking at my mac to get the info but I don’t seem to be able to get it 
right.  also my account was set up several years ago so perhaps I need updated 
info now that mac-Access has been updated.

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Re: The KeyRemap Utilities, [And Forwarding Messages]

[Eric Caron]

Hi folks,

I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help here as though I've installed 
all the updates to the original keyremap and PCKeyboardhack I'm not having any 
problems using VM fusion 5, Windows 7, Jaws 15, and Mountain Lion.

I found the developer very responsive to my emails when I first started using 
the applications.  Perhaps it would be best to send a description of the 
problem directly to him and see what happens.  He responded to me several times 
and only after the app worked did I make my donation so I would expect a 
positive response if the same person is developing and maintaining the appps.  

I won't have the time or ability to update the podcast unless my VM acts up! 

Eric Caron 
On Aug 29, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Just a gentle reminder, regarding the content of this message.  We ask that 
> you pleas do not forward mail from different lists on to this one.  Also, if 
> you care to check the list archives, (see the footer of any message posted to 
> the group to discover where the archives are), you’ll find Eric’s 
> descriptions there at least twice.
> 
> I myself made  the same mistake, I should have checked the archive before I 
> started a similar topic a few months back. But again, this issue is covered 
> in the archives.
> 
> Just to add my own little bit into the mix, based on discussions Ive had with 
> software engineering elsewhere, the “Bug”, as Sara calls it is probably not a 
> “Bug” really.  It has to do with the changes that were made recently to 
> Apple’s keyboard drivers in relation to notebook machines.  Although the scan 
> codes are more or less identical, of course, there are other factors which 
> may be causing the problem.  And, somewhat ironically, it has to do with the 
> keyboard interaction with VoiceOver and gestures.
> 
> Apple hacked around a few issues I am told which cause some very rare issues 
> to occur in software which are so rare that Apple probably doesn’t believe 
> they warrant the time it would take to find another way around them.
> 
> That is probably why, in some cases, these software titles work and not in 
> others.
> 
> I personally have been over all the steps several times, (as outlined on the 
> website of the software developer).  I found that, under Snow Leopard and 
> below, they work flawlessly.  Under Lion or later, I haven’t been able to get 
> them to work properly at all.  Again though , there are other complications.  
> One of which is the keyboard map being used.  The US keyboard layout is 
> different, for instance, to the British layout.  This in turn differs from 
> the French layout, and so it goes on.  Possibly, so speculates my 
> correspondent, the scan codes differ slightly for non-textual keys such as 
> the caps lock key.
> 
> In summary, it seems that the Keyboard Remap utilities may not be the best 
> way of going about solving this problem.  I am going to try good old Sharp 
> Keys again because it would produce far more localised an, therefore, more 
> versatile results, in my case at least.  I use the caps lock quite a lot 
> under normal conditions and currently it is disabled.  I’m going to do away 
> with that concept because it seems that it no longer works reliably anyway.
> 
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Deleting podcasts in iTunes, What is the trick?

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

I have the newest iTunes.  I'm stumped as to how to delete podcast 
episodes. When I navigate to the episodes table, and try to press delete, 
nothing happens. I believe I used to have to do command delete, but still 
nothing happens. I tried to context menu to try to find a delete option, I 
found all kinds of options, but no delete. Can someone tell me how to delete 
these episodes that are cluttering up my computer?

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Re: putting cassettes on to my Mac

[Eric Caron]

Hi Judy,

I recently updated a podcast I did showing how to digitize vinyl 
records using Amadeus Pro.  the procedure for doing cassettes is essentially 
the same.  I also digitized such recordings including my Grand father born in 
1917 singing all kinds of songs that made it to the New York Canadian border.  
these types of recordings are precious to our families.
You can find the podcast on applevis.com.

You can use a USB tape deck or in my case I just used the earphone out on a 
reliable old deck.  It worked well enough for my needs.

You will probably need to buy a griffin imic if you go that rout as it will let 
you input the sound through the imic directly thrugh a usb connector into your 
mac.  I'm pretty sure I touch on this in the podcast.

Eric Caron 


On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> Having a big clear out I have found many old cassettes with voices from my 
> parents down to my grandchildren.  The quality of some is not too good and I 
> would like to transfer
>  them to the Mac and put them into MP3 format.  As people have been talking 
> about Amadeus, would that do it.  How would you connect a cassette player to 
> the Mac? I need an ap that is pretty simple to use.
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Re: Caps Lock Key As A VoiceOver Key; What's The Advantage?

[Eric Caron]

Hi gordon and others,

Here are some of the reasons I find having the caps lock key act as the 
VO keys a advantage.

I'm a touch  typist using the Home row of keys.  The caps lock key location 
lets me use VO and often keep my fingers ready to go on the Home row. Much 
faster work flow for me.

Many commands using VO and letters on the left side of the key board are 
especially easy to use with the caps lock as VO.  example VO A, reading the 
contents of the voice over curser.
I use two fingers on my left hand without leaving the home row. The small 
finger on caps lock and the ring finger to tap the A key.  Without caps lock I 
must drop my left hand to the VO keys then cross my right hand over to find the 
A key.  Or, I can cross my right hand down and under my left.  There is just no 
easy way to keep typing and press VO A, or VO S, or VO D for that matter.
The caps lock key as VO is also a big help to me when I need to do command that 
has multiple keys.  for example VO shift home.  with the caps lock as vo I can 
still essentially keep my left hand on the home row. and pressing caps lock key 
is easy.  pressing VO shift means my left hand is off the Home row and busy 
using three fingers to hold down the keys.

I can give many more examples.  One more good one is using the command VO W.  
this is a very handy command to hear the word you are on, Press it a second 
time for the spelling, and the third time for the phonetic spelling. 

With VO as caps lock I hold down the caps lock key with my small finger on my 
left hand and use my left hand ring finger two then press the W as many times 
as I need. both hands remain on the home row.

Now go ahead and try this with the usual VO keys on the left of the space bar.  
that simple command VO W is a hand twister for me and a slow down in my work 
flow.

Before using the caps lock as a VO key I modified my laptop keyboard to have a 
set of VO keys on the right.  Now that I have the caps lock key working as VO I 
returned my other keys back to the default. I don't need the VO keys on the 
right to work quickly.

This modification has nothing to do with my past and current work on the 
windows side of the world.  It is just a much more efficient way of navigating 
the keyboard on the Mac.

I continue to be grateful it is a option thanks to keyremap4macbook.

Best.

Eric Caron  
  


   






On May 25, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Regarding your first point, I too came to the Mac after a very long time 
> using Windows. Now, however, I need to use both and, moreover, on the same 
> machine preferably at the same time.
> 
> I believe that I was the first in the visually impaired community to 
> introduce the concept of VMWAre Fusion, way back in April 2007 whilst beta 
> testing for VMWAre with Fusion 1.0.  I produced a demo for ACB Radio main 
> stream, which was well received in many quarters, I’m flattered to say.
> 
> I worked closely in those days with the VMWAre engineering staff to ensure 
> accessibility.  This was because at that time the only other solution was 
> Parallels Desktop 1.0 which was, and remains to this day, totally 
> inaccessible.  When I contacted VMWAre in the very early part of 2007, they 
> were extremely receptive to my comment and, as I said, invited me to 
> participate in what was then private beta testing.  It went public not too 
> long after my original demo which was compiled with their knowledge and 
> permission.
> 
> In recent times, however, I haven’t really given much thought to using it 
> since about Fusion 4, which was very different.  I find that the host system 
> keeps grabbing control of the keyboard when, for instance, I hit Command+M 
> which should produce the equivalent to Windows+M in the guest.  I don’t want 
> to go down the road of configuration of the guest on this forum because it 
> would put me off topic, and my fellow moderator would probably banish me from 
> the list, despite the fact that I own it! ;-)
> 
> Seriously, however, if there is anybody who wants to take up this discussion 
> and if they are a member of either Techno-Chat, or our sister group, 
> Windows-Access, I’d love to hear from you as to how you avoid the conflicts 
> to which I seem to be prone.
> 
> For reference once again, I shall post here the links that people may use to 
> join these groups if they wish:
> 
> Techno-Chat, <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat/>
> Windows-Accesss, <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access/>
> 
> Back to the original topic, what I was going to say was that I believe that 
> it is essential if you want to cut the learning curve down a bit, to throw 
> away what seems sensible on Windows or other platforms, and take VoiceOver 
> for the beast that it is.  Learning native func

Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Esther and others,

This worked! I changed the setting to default and now just have the usual 
headings.  I suspect that as a new Mac user in 2009 I probably changed the 
setting myself when trying to get mail to show me something or do something for 
me.  I then transferred the setting each time i migrated to a new computer. And 
the setting held each time I upgraded my operating system.  
I'm so very pleased to be able to use forward again in this efficient 
manner.

You may ask why I waited 5 years to ask.  I have seen this question 
come up on Mac lists before.  this is the first time I read a working answer.  

Thanks to all who stuck in there to help me get a answer.  And, Esther, 
you rock!

Eric Caron 

On May 20, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Laurie,
> 
> You're welcome.  I thought Zack had provided Eric with an answer to his 
> question about not having to read forwarded headers earlier in this thread.  
> It turns out that you can toggle on or off the viewing of the detailed mail 
> information with Command-Shift-H, as Zack stated, but this is separate from 
> the header data information specified in the "Viewing" pane of your Mail 
> Preferences. In other words, even if I have "Show header detail" set to 
> "None" so that I don't get extraneous information in the body of my forwarded 
> email, toggling on viewing of detailed mail information on the mail headers 
> with Command-Shift-H displays detailed information about the mail server, 
> etc. for my mail headers.
> 
> I'm still puzzled about why the "Show header detail" popup button on the 
> "Viewing" pane of Mail preferences should be set to a value other than 
> "Default", if it was not specifically changed. Like Sarah, I've never had to 
> change my mail settings from the viewing defaults, and hadn't seen this 
> problem for forwarded mail. And, as Eric stated earlier, most individuals 
> would not want this level of information as the default behavior for their 
> forwarded emails.
> 
> I hope this fixes the problem, because otherwise this seems like something 
> that would originate from the mail servers or Internet Service being used.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> On May 20, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Laurie Mehta wrote:
> 
>> Thanks very much Esther! Your knowledge and willingness to share it are 
>> greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Laurie
>> 
>> On Tue, 5/20/14, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric, Laurie, and
>> Others,
>> 
>> To eliminate
>> verbose header data in forwarded mail messages, bring up
>> your Mail preferences (Cmd+Comma), navigate to the
>> "Viewing" button on your toolbar, and press it. On
>> the "Viewing" pane, navigate to the popup button
>> for "Show header detail", VO-space, and change the
>> popup to "None".
>> 
>> You might want to check your current setting
>> for header detail.  When I select "Default", the
>> forwarded header fields are "From",
>> "Subject", "Date", and "To".
>> When I select "None", all those fields are left
>> off, and only the content of the message is forwarded. 
>> Selecting "All" includes all the header
>> information in forwarded mail.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther 
>> 
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Re: an extremely annoying sound coming from my USB turntable when connected

[Eric Caron]

Hi Michael,

I never was able to eliminate such sounds when doing recordings with my 
USB turntable. But, it was improved when I plugged the turntable directly into 
my computer's USB port. When I went through a hub, the noise was increased.
Eric Caron
On May 18, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

> hey,
> I apologise if this is the wrong list for this kind of thing but i know there 
> are a lot of people on here so i will give this a go.
> i have had a new mark USB turntable for 3 years now and ever since that time 
> and extremely annoying noise has been present.
> It is my experience with USB sound cards that you tend to get some hissing 
> but this is driving me mad.
> I have uploaded a Sample you may want to turn the volume up.
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28973939/USB%20device%20noise.mp3
> 
> i’m using a mac right now but the noise also occurs on Windows machines.
> I thought the problem may be electrical interference due to other devices 
> being in close proximity. i disconnected all other devices but still nothing.
> any help would be fantastic.
> thanks
> 
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Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sarah and others,

Well, if you don't have this mail forwarding problem then there must be 
a way to fix it.  Anyone out there have a suggestion for me?

Eric Caron 
On May 16, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Yep. looks like you are having  the same issue my friend had. as for me when 
> I forward a message All I get is begin forded message. How odd.
> 
> On May 16, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
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Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?

[Eric Caron]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Zachary Kline 
> Subject: Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?
> Date: May 16, 2014 5:17:56 PM EDT
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> Hi Zach, above is all the chatter that appears when I forward a message.  I'd 
> love to get rid of this as it makes reading forwarded mail very difficult for 
> me and for my recipients.  I'm amazed that this is the default behavior for 
> Apple Mail.

Eric Caron 

On May 16, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:

> Eric,
> Can you clarify about which headers you’re seeing? Is it message ID, return 
> path, and so forth?
> You need to forward a new message for the command I gave you to work.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On May 16, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Zach,
>> 
>>  I tried command, shift, h, and there was no chan

Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Zach,

I tried command, shift, h, and there was no change.  I do hear VO say 
Default Headers.

Any tips on how I can adjust the default headers or another way to get rid of 
all the forwarding prefix chatter.

Eric Caron  
On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Zachary Kline  wrote:

> Eric,
> The problem is that you have told Mail to show all headers by default. If you 
> hit cmd-shift-h, you will switch to just seeing the basic ones.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On May 16, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  When I forward a message in mail it always has a long series of 
>> information about the message that I must get through before I can actually 
>> read the message.  Is there any setting or other way to keep mail from 
>> putting all this chatter at the top of a forwarded message? 
>> 
>> I'm using Mountain Lion.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info?

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

When I forward a message in mail it always has a long series of 
information about the message that I must get through before I can actually 
read the message.  Is there any setting or other way to keep mail from putting 
all this chatter at the top of a forwarded message? 

I'm using Mountain Lion.

Eric Caron 


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Re: how to make a group email?

[Eric Caron]

Hi David and others,

Wow! that is pretty easy.  thanks very much for the directions.  I 
tried this with a existing group name from my contacts and it popped up and 
looked ready to mail. I just need to set up the sub groups for those I need to 
mail to. 

This list really came through for me today.  thanks everyone.

Eric Caron 


On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:32 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

> You need to start with Contacts and not with Mail.
> 
> Assuming you have all your email addresses in your contacts then open
> contact and create a new group. Now you can simply copy and paste contacts
> from your main table into this new group.
> 
> When you return to mail and type in the name of the group you have created
> in Contacts you will find that the send to box will then be populated with
> all the addresses you copied across to your group in the contacts app.
> 
> I think the first time I did this I had to close and reopen Mail for it to
> recognise the group I had created in Contacts.
> 
> David Griffith.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
> Sent: 24 March 2014 20:21
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: how to make a group email?
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   Can someone give me the directions on how to create a email that
> will send out a message to a pre selected number of people?
> 
>   For example, I'd lioke to create a email that sends a message to all
> the people that were in my guide dog training class with me.  
> 
> I'd appreciate details on how to do this as a number of new responsibilities
> would make this ability a real time saver.
> I'm using Mail in Mountain Lion 
> 
> Eric Caron 
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how to make a group email?

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

Can someone give me the directions on how to create a email that will 
send out a message to a pre selected number of people?

For example, I'd lioke to create a email that sends a message to all 
the people that were in my guide dog training class with me.  

I'd appreciate details on how to do this as a number of new responsibilities 
would make this ability a real time saver.
I'm using Mail in Mountain Lion 

Eric Caron 

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Re: voices for the mac, African American English dialect

[Eric Caron]

Saul is a InfoVox IVox voice from acapella and is available for the Mac.  It is 
described as Male hip hop voice.  It is a specialty voice like queen Elizabeth  
and a bit more expensive then the others.  I tried it for awhile and liked it 
though i'm finding I'm pretty boring and mostly stick to Alex.
I am sorry for my bad spelling in this post but hopefully the info is 
helpful.  they have other interesting voices including one that I think sort of 
sounded like it had a southern accent. the english female voice with a indian 
accent was also one I enjoyed hearing.  Hopefully these foices will continue to 
improve and increase in diversity.  I mostly stopped using them as Alex was 
easier for me to hear at faster speeds and I use pitch change and that doesn't 
work in the optional voices, at least not in Mountain Lion.




Eric Caron 
 

On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Oh, thanks, Brenda, for that.  I just  couldn’t remember where I’d seen the 
> voice and what he was called!
> Cait
> 
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey, could you post a link to the voice stream website? I've never actually 
>> heard of them, and would like to check this out.
>> Laurel
>> On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:59 AM, meadowlark77  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's in the Voice Dream software. I bought that voice. The name is Saul. 
>>> He's good.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Caitlyn and Maggie" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: voices for the mac, African American English dialect
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I thought that there was at least one out there that had an african 
>>> american 
>>> type inflection, but can’t remember right now which one it is..
>>> 
>>> without going to each speech company and having a listen again, I’m 
>>> stumped, 
>>> though.  I think the name was Will or something like that.
>>> 
>>> hth,
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2013, at 1:03 AM, richie Gardenhire 
>>>  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am sure that Apple and other companies will be looking for people to use 
>>>> as "sampler" voices for future, screenreader or text-to-speech programs. 
>>>> As an African-American, myself, I would like nothing better, male or 
>>>> female, although African-American female voices are probably harder to pin 
>>>> a dialect down because of different inflexions from various parts of the 
>>>> country.
>>>> 
>>>> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Laurel and Stockard wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> Sorry for all the questions tonight, I'm just doing a lot of computer 
>>>>> work. Now, this'll be the last one, I promise. :-)
>>>>> I know the subject sounds weird, but I have a friend who is looking for a 
>>>>> voice for voiceover on the mac that speaks, in her words, more of an 
>>>>> African American sounding dialect. You know, we have lots of voices out 
>>>>> there from different dialects from the U.K. and even South African, 
>>>>> Australian and Indian English. But I and my friend can't find any real 
>>>>> American dialects, like what my friend's looking for in an African 
>>>>> American dialect, or even a southern United States dialect.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Laurel
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Re: help with setting up vm ware?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Mathew,

One thing to be aware of is that if you set up JAWS then start changing 
settings in VM Fusion such as changing the amount of ram designated then Jaws 
acts like it is a whole new computer.  You then need to use another 
authorization key.  So when I set up VM 5 I left Jaws in demo mode until I got 
all my VM Fusion settings working nicely and then authorized  Jaws.  I'm 
careful to now avoid changing settings that will cause Jaws to think my VM is a 
different computer. 
Best of luck.  I have my VM Fusion 5 working with mOuntain Lion and will 
probably not upgrade to mavericks or VM Fusion 6 for a very long time.

Usually I upgrade quickly but this time I'm glad I waited.

Eric Caron 


On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:

> Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to go ok. 
> Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? I 
> have been choosing single window mode and full window. I can get narrator to 
> start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use 
> jaws if possible because I know it better. Is there any good tutorials out 
> there? Thanks for any help.
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Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

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Hi Jeff,

I've found touch iD to work just about every time for me.  I read 
somewhere that if you are not finding it reliable you should go back to 
settings and delete your finger print and set it up again.  I have two fingers 
set up and I can use them both first try about 90 percent of the time and just 
about always get it on the second try if needed.  It is very fast for me as 
well.

I hope you get yours squared away.

Eric Caron 

On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

> In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. I've 
> gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my experience, I 
> doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, but I'm strongly 
> considering disabling it because it gets old entering one's pass code all the 
> time after one minute of not touching the phone.
> 
> I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
> time.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:25 PM
> Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW
> 
> 
>> 
>> I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
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VO Volume problem on the 5S

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

My iPhone 5S volume will only go up to 35 percent.  I've tried raising 
it in the Roter and I've tried removing it from the roter and using the volume 
buttons pressed while VO is talking.

I believe I read somewhere that this is either a iOS 7 bug or a iPhone 5 S bug. 
 

I suspect iPhone 5 as my 4S sas it is going up to 100 percent and it does sound 
louder.

I tried also removing volume from the roter and restarting my phone.  Again no 
change.

Anyone else having this 5S problem?  Any solutions?

Eric Caron 
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Re: Sinking issues to a 5S am I alone? any tips?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Travis,

I have not really solved the problem but after repeated attempts I 
currently have what I want moved to my 5S.  Funny thing is I can sink to my 4S 
with identical settings quickly and easily. 

I try many things to sink to my 5S including:
repeatedly restarting my computer and phone 
uncheck and re check items in iTunes 
Sink repeatedly.  

Currently I seem to have better success over wifi but I plan to compare that to 
connection with USB.

Finally sometimes it seems like long hours after my computer says it is done 
sinking the item I added suddenly shows up.

Meanwhile sinking to my 4S on the same computer with the same settings is quick 
and flawless.

One plus is that Apple support has called me back a few times to see if things 
were resolved.  I've had very nice conversations.  They are still however as 
baffled as I am.

Eric Caron  

On Nov 18, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> Don't feel bad.  I can't get my 4s to download my ringtones either.  
> Everything is checked in the right places, but still, no ringtones on the 
> phone.  I figure it'll get sorted eventually (or it won't), but either way, 
> it's not worth it to me to reset the phone just to get some ringtones onto 
> the phone.  I'll just suck it up and deal.
> If you figure this one out though, I'd be interested to hear what the 
> solution is/was.
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List Recorder feature requests

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

Recently A new List Recorder update came out and addressed issues with 
iOS 7.  

This would be a great time to suggest features or improvements for this 
application.  If you have suggestions or ideas for new features or improvements 
please share your ideas.

For those who might not be familiar with List Recorder it is a application 
designed to work with VoiceOver.  It can serve many uses from being a simple 
quick recorder to a very deeply organized system to store and find both 
recordings and written notes.  It  is one of the apps I use the most as I have 
a great deal of recordings carefully organized.  This is where I find my 
grocery list and other store lists.  It is also where my to do list for work is 
kept.  I have lists with descriptions of electronics and appliances and other 
lists with recipes.  It can hold class lectures or other long meetings.  The 
uses are rather flexible and people use it for all kinds of tasks.

On my wish list is iCloud integration to use it on more then one device.
What improvements or features would you like to see?

Eric Caron 
  
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Re: Sinking issues to a 5S am I alone? any tips?

[Eric Caron]

Update on sinking problem from iTunes to 5S.

After walking away from my phone for several hours I returned to find 
the audio books moved to the phone and work.  This is completely confusing to 
me as on my 4S I was able to quickly remove and sink them back.  All i can 
think is that because it is a new phone it is busy doing lots of things as it 
sets up.  I was also letting the phone download music at the same time so 
perhaps that slowed things down.  Still itunes reported the sink as complete 
and it wasn't.

I hope no one else experiences this problem.

Eric Caron 


On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> 
>   I've had some serious sinking problems with my new 5S.  I'm wondering 
> if others have seen this behavior and if so are there any solutions.
> 
> Currently I can not sink audio books to my iPhone using iTunes.  I also have 
> had trouble sinking ring tones.  I have also created some new play lists and 
> so far they are also not showing up on my phone.
> 
> Here is what I've done so far.
> 
> When ring tones did not work I followed suggestions from another person 
> having the same problem.  I restored my iphone to factory settings and did a 
> sink from the cloud rather then the computer.  That   brought over my custom 
> ring tones.  Later I realized my audio books were missing.  Not even a tab 
> for it in the music App under more.
> 
> After many hours on the phone with  Apple I have no resolution.  I'm thinking 
> I will probably find additional sinking problems as I use the phone more. 
> 
> So far my old 4S is still working correctly and it is sinking new and old 
> materials perfictly.  My 5S on the same computer running the same 7.04 OS is 
> unable to sink.
> 
> I'm rather tired of erasing my phone resetting it backing up, and then 
> putting in my ID over and over and setting up all the different apps and 
> such. 
> 
> I'll do that again if someone can let me know if it has helped.
> 
> Is anyone else having sinking issues with a new 5S specifically one restored 
> from a 4 S backup?
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if I should just try setting it up as a new phone and 
> see if that works.   could then download the apps one at a time and set them 
> up again.  
> 
> Tips appreciated!
> 
> One other thing.  I purchased Apple Care PLUS and they had to do a diagnostic 
> test on my iPhone.  It tested out perfectly.
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Sinking issues to a 5S am I alone? any tips?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Listers,

I've had some serious sinking problems with my new 5S.  I'm wondering 
if others have seen this behavior and if so are there any solutions.

Currently I can not sink audio books to my iPhone using iTunes.  I also have 
had trouble sinking ring tones.  I have also created some new play lists and so 
far they are also not showing up on my phone.

Here is what I've done so far.

When ring tones did not work I followed suggestions from another person having 
the same problem.  I restored my iphone to factory settings and did a sink from 
the cloud rather then the computer.  That   brought over my custom ring tones.  
Later I realized my audio books were missing.  Not even a tab for it in the 
music App under more.

After many hours on the phone with  Apple I have no resolution.  I'm thinking I 
will probably find additional sinking problems as I use the phone more. 

So far my old 4S is still working correctly and it is sinking new and old 
materials perfictly.  My 5S on the same computer running the same 7.04 OS is 
unable to sink.

I'm rather tired of erasing my phone resetting it backing up, and then putting 
in my ID over and over and setting up all the different apps and such. 

I'll do that again if someone can let me know if it has helped.

Is anyone else having sinking issues with a new 5S specifically one restored 
from a 4 S backup?

I'm beginning to wonder if I should just try setting it up as a new phone and 
see if that works.   could then download the apps one at a time and set them up 
again.  

Tips appreciated!

One other thing.  I purchased Apple Care PLUS and they had to do a diagnostic 
test on my iPhone.  It tested out perfectly.

Eric Caron 

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Mail verbosity, improving productivity

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers and fellow mail users,

I read many messages from many lists.  I would love to change the way VO reads 
information to me as I arrow down a long list of messages.  I have improved 
things to some degree but would love some tips on improving productivity a bit 
more.

I use the new view of Mail and have threads in conversations.  When arrowing 
down I have to hear VO say something like " 15 message conversation triangle 
unread"  I then hear the person's name and then the subject.

I would like to hear the Information about number of messages and status last.  
In many cases hearing the subject would allow me to delete and not bother 
hearing the other chatter for each and every conversation.

I have changed the verbosity to low in a mail activity so I now only hear "15 
Message conversation."  So this decreases the chatter but moving this 
information  to the end would be a great time saver and make a more pleasant 
working experience.

Does anyone know how to change mail or VO settings to accomplish this?

gratefully,

Eric Caron 
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Re: Using The Mac With Voiceover With Only 1 Hand

[Eric Caron]

Hi Harmony,

In addition to all these great suggestions the Keyremap4macbook app 
could be handy as this could allow keys to be placed whereever they are most 
handy.  It might also be helpful to have the capslock function as the two VO 
keys as that could free up some fingers.

Eric Caron 
 

On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Harmony,
> 
> I think that Catherine said she is using a Maltron one-handed keyboard with 
> sticky keys to type with VoiceOver.  That's probably the best solution.  Use 
> single key navigation with QuickNav turned on to navigate web sites. If your 
> friend has sufficient vision, there's a Mac App Store app for one handed 
> keyboard typing.  Here's the link to their web page:
> • One-Hand Typing for Injured Touch Typists
> http://www.onehandkeyboard.org/  
> 
> Apparently, people who were used to touch typing with two hands can adapt 
> relatively easily to using the same hand to type the mirror-reversed 
> functions of the keys that you typed with the other hand.  So if you type the 
> word "t h e" with two hands, using your left forefinger to press the "t", 
> your right forefinger to press the "h", and your left middle finger to press 
> the "e", you could type this one handed with the "One-Handed Keyboard" app in 
> the Mac App store, entirely with either your left or right hand.  If you were 
> using your left hand, instead of pressing the "h" with your right forefinger, 
> you'd press the "g" with your left forefinger.  If you were using your right 
> hand, instead of pressing the "t" with your left forefinger, you'd press the 
> "y" with your right forefinger, and for the "e" pressed with your left middle 
> finger, you would press the "i" with your right middle finger.  
> 
> Muscle memory is supposed to kick in after you start typing a while. They're 
> using predictive typing, but I think you need vision to review the choices.  
> This is mainly for people who are touch typists, but have temporarily lost 
> the use of one hand due to injury.  There's a free app that lets people try 
> this out, either by direct download from the web site or from the Mac App 
> Store, and then there's a paid version for $130.  I'd just check out the web 
> page, but for those who are interested here are the links to the Mac App 
> Store apps:
> 
> • One-Hand Keyboard: Free One-Hand Typing  (free demo version) by Peter Kamb
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/one-hand-keyboard-free-one/id501185004?mt=12
> • One-Hand Keyboard: One-Hand Typing ($129.99) by Peter Kamb
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/one-hand-keyboard-one-hand/id465275525?mt=12
> 
> Also, here's a web site that does a comparison of one-handed keyboard 
> alternatives:
> http://www.aboutonehandtyping.com/onehandtypingalternatives.html
> You can use Safari Reader (Command-Shift-R) on this page.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 21 Apr 2013, at 09:05, Harmony Neil wrote:
> 
>> Hellow,
>> A friend of mine likes the mac as it's good for audio editing.  However, he 
>> only has the use of one hand really and wants to use voiceover since his 
>> vision is not the best.  The trouble he's having is the fact that he turns 
>> the voiceover lock on but has to keep turning it off again when he wants to 
>> do things like type in a searchbox etc on the internet.  Does anyone know of 
>> a better way one can use the mac plus voiceover with the use of only 1 hand?
>> Thanks,
>> Harmony.
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Re: Rule to move list messages to a mailbox

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sarah and others,

Sarah's tip helped.  it turned out the text I was seeing was in the 
subject field not in the to field as I thought.  When I put the list name in 
the subject area in the criteria area the rule worked as expected.  

Eric Caron 
On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> 1. if the message has no subject use the too field
> 
> 2. if the message has the subject of let's say [list name] then put that 
> subject in the subject field.
> 
> these are the 2 possible senarios  that I'v seen when creating filters for 
> lists.
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  It has been some time since I had to set up a rule to send messages 
>> from a list to a mailbox.  I recently joined two lists for guide dog users 
>> and can't seem to get the rules working correctly.  I looked at the rules I 
>> have working for the Mac-Access and other lists but must be missing 
>> something.  Can someone share with me there ways of getting a lists messages 
>> to go into a specific mail box?
>> 
>> I have created the mailbox and am playing with the criterias but no success 
>> yet.  I also am having a little trouble in the headers of the list messages 
>> finding useful things to put into the criteria fields.
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips.
>> 
>> one useful note both these new lists place the name in the from field but so 
>> far I have not figured out how that might help me.  for example it says the 
>> sender's name then "juno-l".
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
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Rule to move list messages to a mailbox

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

It has been some time since I had to set up a rule to send messages 
from a list to a mailbox.  I recently joined two lists for guide dog users and 
can't seem to get the rules working correctly.  I looked at the rules I have 
working for the Mac-Access and other lists but must be missing something.  Can 
someone share with me there ways of getting a lists messages to go into a 
specific mail box?

I have created the mailbox and am playing with the criterias but no success 
yet.  I also am having a little trouble in the headers of the list messages 
finding useful things to put into the criteria fields.

Thanks for any tips.

one useful note both these new lists place the name in the from field but so 
far I have not figured out how that might help me.  for example it says the 
sender's name then "juno-l".

Thanks for any assistance.

Eric Caron
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Re: How to Open link in new window?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Esther,

This post is amazing!  I read it at least three times and learned 
something new an useful each time.  Also, I went back to the NLS BARD site 
today and went through the recently added books armed with my new open in new 
window skills and,  Wow! did that ever work great and it saved me lots of time! 
 I can't believe I waited so long to master this function.  I'm not much of a 
shopper but I also remember using Amazon and being frustrated by not being able 
to return to the place I was at before hitting a link.  I suspect this is going 
to help make many web sites easier and faster to use!


Eric Caron 

On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Thanks for reporting back.  I think the shortcuts listed on the Safari 
> preference pane for tabs did work more reliably in earlier versions of 
> Safari, and there was at least one web page that I found where using a 
> control+mouse click on a link -- not just a mouse click alone -- worked to 
> bring up the context menu.  (With mouse keys turned on, I held down the 
> Control key and then tapped the "i" key.  I did not have NumPad Commander 
> enabled on a laptop with the third-party  KeyRemap4MacBook software loaded.)
> 
> The substitution of enter for click in the listed shortcuts works for the 
> same reason that using Option+Enter works for VoiceOver users to force 
> downloads of linked files, while general Mac users will know this as using 
> the Option+Click shortcut to force downloads of files.  This may also explain 
> the situations where usage with VoiceOver gets flakey.  By the way,  I'll 
> continue to describe this as "Option+Enter", but a Mac purist would say this 
> is "Option+Return".  There's a different keyboard code for the "Enter" key 
> than for the "Return" key, and the "Enter" key can be used to rename files in 
> Finder, but it cannot be used to exit dialog windows by sending the default 
> selections, as the "Return" key does, both on the Mac, and on the virtual 
> keyboard of iOS devices.  
> 
> If VoiceOver is not turned on, but the mouse cursor is positioned at a link, 
> pressing the Option key while clicking with either mouse of Trackpad 
> indicates the selected file that is clicked on should be downloaded.  But if 
> VoiceOver is turned on, we are using full keyboard access, and this means 
> that in addition to the standard shortcut keys, "Space bar" selects a 
> highlighted button and "Return" opens a highlighted link.  When the VoiceOver 
> cursor moves to the link, it highlights it in the same way that clicking on 
> the link indicates selection (along with a command to open the link). So when 
> we use "Option+Enter (really Return)", with VoiceOver on (and focused on the 
> link), and hence with full keyboard access enabled, we perform the same 
> selection and activation with the Option key modifier as sighted users do 
> with Option+Click.  Here's another way to tell that highlighting the 
> selection (done with VoiceOver focused on the link) plus pressing 
> Option+Enter works to force a d
 ow
> nload: whether or not someone is using VoiceOver. If you started playing an 
> mp3 file associated with a link in your browser, because you clicked on the 
> link, you can force the file to download without going back to the link by 
> pressing Command+L, which moves to the address bar and highlights the URL, 
> and then pressing Option+Enter (really "Return").  That works whether or not 
> someone is using VoiceOver.
> 
> Now lets look at the cases where people have had problems highlighting a link 
> and forcing a download with Option+Enter.  The most common case people 
> reported of not simply being able to move to the link, route their mouse 
> cursor to the VoiceOver cursor, and press Option+Enter to download, was on 
> the podcast links of the main Blind Cool Tech podcast page.  Unless you first 
> interact with that link, which also gets announced as a heading, you could 
> not use Option+Enter to download the podcast.  Also, another thing that did 
> not work unless your first interacted with the link to the podcast on the BCT 
> podcast page was getting the context menu options to open the linked content 
> in a new page or download it when you used VO-Shift-M.
> 
> I think what may happen in problem cases where these Option+Enter (equivalent 
> to Option-click) and Command+Option+Shift+Enter (equivalent to 
> command+option+shift+click) shortcuts do not work, is that the HTML coding 
> for the link on the page is not letting VoiceOver automatically highlight the 
> necessary information for the link within the VoiceOver cursor.
> 
> This reminds me a bit of the navig

Re: How to Open link in new window?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Esther and others,

I found the short cuts where you indicated but I would not have known 
to substitute enter for click.  One more interesting detail.  I believe I did 
try command, Option, Enter on the link and nothing happened several times.  I 
went back to the NLS BARD site and practiced a bit.  I found that if I am going 
down the list and land on the link I want to open in a new window it often 
doesn't respond to Command, Option, Enter or Shift, Command, Option Enter 
unless I arrow away from the link then come back to it.  It then seems to work 
consistently.  So if the command is not working for someone out there try 
arrowing away and then back to the link.  Like Esther I was questioning my 
memory as I thought command,Option Enter was supposed to open a link in a new 
window.  But, it just was not working!  Now, it does if I arrow away and back.  
Doing a mouse click on the link also did not make the key command work.

Still this is a quick way to get the site to do what I need.

Eric Caron 

On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Now I'm feeling senile and forgetful. The keyboard shortcut options are 
> actually listed on the tab preferences pane of Safari, if you read down past 
> the pop up menu that for opening pages in tabs or windows, and use enter 
> instead of click.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 7 Apr 2013, at 06:43, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah, Esther, and others,
>> 
>> I tried Esther's and Sarah's suggestions and Sarah's worked!  Command, 
>> Option, Shift, Enter pressed when on the link of the book title opened the 
>> link in a window that when closed left me back in my original location on 
>> the web site.  This will be a huge time saver for me on the NLS BARD site.  
>> I look forward to trying this on other sites such as Amazon to see if it 
>> also works.
>> 
>> I tried changing the setting as Esther described but unless I did it wrong 
>> it didn't work the way I needed.
>> 
>> Without this community on lists like this one, how would I ever have found 
>> that key combination?  Thanks everyone.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you hit cmd  option shift enter it normally opens in a new window, at 
>>> least for me. There is a safari extension to do this but I forgot what it 
>>> was called and I uninstalled it as safari freezes when I install extensions 
>>> and i can't get to the install dialogue. or button quick enough.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is the one big failing of Safari in my opinion. I don't know why they 
>>>> don't fix this so that returning from a link positions you back at the 
>>>> same spot on the webpage. I'll be watching this thread with interest.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:21 AM
>>>> Subject: How to Open link in new window?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought there was a way to open a link in a new window so that you 
>>>>> could then return to the original web page and be in the same position.  
>>>>> I can't seem to find that command.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what I'm trying to do.  I am in the NLS BARD and land on a book I 
>>>>> want to add to my wish list.  I press the link and go to a new page where 
>>>>> I add the book then press back to summery list.  I then return to the 
>>>>> original web page but am at the top and now have to sort through 18,000 
>>>>> items or more to get back to the place I was at.  Item chooser works but 
>>>>> is slow.  If I could return to the site at the same location I left from 
>>>>> I would save lots of time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Suggestions are greatly appreciated!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
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Re: How to Open link in new window?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Sarah, Esther, and others,

I tried Esther's and Sarah's suggestions and Sarah's worked!  Command, Option, 
Shift, Enter pressed when on the link of the book title opened the link in a 
window that when closed left me back in my original location on the web site.  
This will be a huge time saver for me on the NLS BARD site.  I look forward to 
trying this on other sites such as Amazon to see if it also works.

I tried changing the setting as Esther described but unless I did it wrong it 
didn't work the way I needed.

Without this community on lists like this one, how would I ever have found that 
key combination?  Thanks everyone.

Eric Caron 
On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> If you hit cmd  option shift enter it normally opens in a new window, at 
> least for me. There is a safari extension to do this but I forgot what it was 
> called and I uninstalled it as safari freezes when I install extensions and i 
> can't get to the install dialogue. or button quick enough.
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> This is the one big failing of Safari in my opinion. I don't know why they 
>> don't fix this so that returning from a link positions you back at the same 
>> spot on the webpage. I'll be watching this thread with interest.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:21 AM
>> Subject: How to Open link in new window?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I thought there was a way to open a link in a new window so that you could 
>>> then return to the original web page and be in the same position.  I can't 
>>> seem to find that command.
>>> 
>>> Here is what I'm trying to do.  I am in the NLS BARD and land on a book I 
>>> want to add to my wish list.  I press the link and go to a new page where I 
>>> add the book then press back to summery list.  I then return to the 
>>> original web page but am at the top and now have to sort through 18,000 
>>> items or more to get back to the place I was at.  Item chooser works but is 
>>> slow.  If I could return to the site at the same location I left from I 
>>> would save lots of time.
>>> 
>>> Suggestions are greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: How to Open link in new window?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Harmony,

Sadly that did not work for me.  I made sure all my Voice Over cursers 
were on the link and when opening the context menu I got 9 options but open in 
new window was not one of them.  

I got thinks like 
Back 
reload page 
Open in dashboard 
Save Page as... 

Block add 

and so on.

More tips wanted.

Thanks,

Eric Caron 
On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Harmony Neil  wrote:

> You should just be able to do voiceover shift m on the link you want to open 
> in a new window then go down to the appropriate option.  Then you can use 
> voiceover f2 to go between the windows in safari or whatever browser you're 
> using on the mac.
> On 7 Apr 2013, at 14:21, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I thought there was a way to open a link in a new window so that you 
>> could then return to the original web page and be in the same position.  I 
>> can't seem to find that command.
>> 
>>  Here is what I'm trying to do.  I am in the NLS BARD and land on a book 
>> I want to add to my wish list.  I press the link and go to a new page where 
>> I add the book then press back to summery list.  I then return to the 
>> original web page but am at the top and now have to sort through 18,000 
>> items or more to get back to the place I was at.  Item chooser works but is 
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How to Open link in new window?

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Hi listers,

I thought there was a way to open a link in a new window so that you 
could then return to the original web page and be in the same position.  I 
can't seem to find that command.

Here is what I'm trying to do.  I am in the NLS BARD and land on a book 
I want to add to my wish list.  I press the link and go to a new page where I 
add the book then press back to summery list.  I then return to the original 
web page but am at the top and now have to sort through 18,000 items or more to 
get back to the place I was at.  Item chooser works but is slow.  If I could 
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Re: mountain lion recovery accessibility and vo

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Hi folks,

If you are talking about using the recovery partition in mountain Lion 
to restore the operating ssystem on your internal hard drive, then it is 
accessible.   I did this with my 2012 mini.  Sadly Safe mode will not work with 
voice over.  yet at least once in my past I booted into safe mode just to find 
out that I could do nothing.  I restarted my computer and somehow it then 
worked correctly.  Just booting into safe mode then leaving it did something 
good.

best,

Eric Caron 


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Re: Apple TV to receiver

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Hi Esther and others,

This is exactly the info I needed and I feel confident that not only 
will the apple TV meet my current needs but possible future needs.  I am 
currently old school mainly using some nice but very old receivers.  Most of 
them only have RCA inputs.  I'm using the Airport Express with analog cables.  
This actually works very well.  But, I want to be able to do more then just air 
play with iTunes and my iPhone.  the mirror feature, I believe will let me send 
all audio to the receiver hooked to my computer.  I also like the idea of 
taking my laptop anywhere in the house but keeping the clear audio coming 
clearly through the receiver speakers.  

This was all new and helpful information.  I never heard of a Toslink cable 
before!  

I'm off to go look up the hardware noted in this post! 

Gratefully,

Eric Caron 

On Jan 8, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Mac-Access  wrote:

> Hello Eric, 
> 
> Hopefully you'll get a response from someone who is more informed than me, 
> but a quick search of various web sites indicates that you can just use an 
> optical cable between the Apple TV and your receiver.   Basically all Apple 
> TVs of the past few years (2nd and 3rd generation models) can use either HDMI 
> cables or optical digital audio cables (also known as TOSLINK cables -- you 
> may be using one with an AirPort Express to stream audio).  HDMI is more 
> common now for the latest model TVs, but connecting from the ATV's optical 
> digital audio port is also common for home theater receivers.
> 
> Here's the Apple Knowledge Base article on the Guide to Ports and Connectors 
> for the Apple TV:
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1586
> 
> I would just buy an AmazonBasics Digital Optical Audio Toslink Cable for 
> about $5.50.  They also sell an AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable and 
> Toslink Digital Audio Optical Cable, 2 Pack for $9.99, so you could get one 
> of each of the two kinds of cables that the ATV uses, in case you later get a 
> receiver or TV that uses HDMI cables.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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>> Hi listers,
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>>  I am interested in purchasing a Apple TB to use with my stereo receiver.  
>> I'm not sure how to  do this as I understand the Apple TV has a HDMI output  
>> and my receiver has something called a DVD optical in put, that is square.  
>> A single port called a digital input that is round. and analogue input with 
>> RCA jacks. 
>> 
>>  Can anyone let me know if they are using a Apple TV with a stereo receiver, 
>> and let me know if any of my input options could work?
>> 
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Apple TV to receiver

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Hi listers,

I am interested in purchasing a Apple TB to use with my stereo 
receiver.  I'm not sure how to  do this as I understand the Apple TV has a HDMI 
output  and my receiver has something called a DVD optical in put, that is 
square.  A single port called a digital input that is round. and analogue input 
with RCA jacks. 

Can anyone let me know if they are using a Apple TV with a stereo 
receiver, and let me know if any of my input options could work?

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Re: WARNING!! Do not Install the List Recorder app update.

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Hello Listers,


There are two versions of List Recorder in the app store.  List 
Recorder Full version 2.2 has the newist updates and works correctly.  this can 
be updated or purchased as a new app.  this app is $7.99 and has the full 
features.

the other app is just called List Recorder.  this one is .99 cents and is a 
light version when first purchased.  after trying this version a in app 
purchase for $7.99 updates the app with the complete features.  It is this 
version that has a bug in the newest 2.4.2 release. 

the fix for this bug has all ready been submitted to Apple.  Unfortunately 
Apple may be closing soon for the Christmas holiday so it is possible that the 
update may not show up until after they open again.  If your device shows the 
List Recorder app please wait for the new virsion.  If your updating List 
Recorder Full you are good to update.


The new version will be 2.4.3.  
Time permitting I will soon do a podcast showing the newest changes to List 
Recorder.

Eric Caron 

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> To follow up here are 2 boos from the person who is also in contact from the 
> developer. There are just links to the page but the player works very well 
> and the play stop buttons are very much usable with voice over.
> 
> 1. SixthMode sent me a email saying DO NOT UPDATE ListRecorder ! 
> http://boo.fm/b1124198
> 
> and
> 
> 2.. This is the email sent to me by the Developers of List Recorder app. 
> http://boo.fm/b1124251
> 
> I realize this is repeating what eric said but it's good to in this case have 
> multiple sources.
> 
> 
> happy holidays.
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>> Hello Eric
>> Thanks for that – I couldn't understand why it worked fine for me (apart 
>> from the flip mode)
>> And Sarah, thank you for bringing this to our attention in the first place.
>> With Best wishes for Christmas and the new year.
>> Dennis.
>> -––
>> 
>> 
>> Essentially Natural was started in 1996 by a blind man, Dennis Freedman, 
>> after a quest to find organic products that would assist his wife to heal 
>> from a road traffic accident
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2012, at 01:15, Eric Caron  wrote:
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>>> Listers, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarah is correct! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you have not updated List Recorder Version 2.4.2 please do not  update.  
>>> The new version has a problem.  the developer is aware of the problem and 
>>> is working on a fix.  There are currently two versions of list Recorder in 
>>> the App Store.  the Original List Recorder and also List Recorder Full.  
>>> The apps should work the same but because beta testing was done on the Full 
>>> version a problem with the other app was not detected.  Those people who 
>>> updated the full version are not likely to discover a problem.
>>> 
>>> Again the developer is both working on a fix and also working on having the 
>>> last version restored to the app store.  
>>> 
>>> I'll post again   if I receive any other updates concerning this.
>>> 
>>> In the mean time remember to back up your List Recorder data regularly and 
>>> also of course the same is true for your phone in general.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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>>>> I don't use list recorder. So cannot verify what this update says. This is 
>>>> an AudioBoo done by a person who has done very very good reviews on 
>>>> products such as boss Jock. I know some of you to use this app. So Fought  
>>>> I'd share here.
>>>> 
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Re: WARNING!! Do not Install the List Recorder app update.

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Listers, 


Sarah is correct! 


If you have not updated List Recorder Version 2.4.2 please do not  update.  The 
new version has a problem.  the developer is aware of the problem and is 
working on a fix.  There are currently two versions of list Recorder in the App 
Store.  the Original List Recorder and also List Recorder Full.  The apps 
should work the same but because beta testing was done on the Full version a 
problem with the other app was not detected.  Those people who updated the full 
version are not likely to discover a problem.

Again the developer is both working on a fix and also working on having the 
last version restored to the app store.  

I'll post again   if I receive any other updates concerning this.

In the mean time remember to back up your List Recorder data regularly and also 
of course the same is true for your phone in general.


Eric Caron 

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Re: the tonido app?

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Hi Melissa,

I'm using the app with my iphone 4S and my mac book pro with no 
problems.  On the Mac side it simply runs in the background  It installed 
easily.

I have not used it a lot but it seems handy.

Eric Caron .  
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> anyone is using it successfully on the mac?
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Recording a phone call with List Recorder

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Hi Listers,

Recently I needed to record information being given to me over the 
phone.  I opened List Recorder while the phone was in speaker phone mode.  to 
my surprise when I started recording I found I was able to get a very 
respectable recording of the entire conversation.  Has anyone found this works 
in Skype as well?  I'm sure it will not work with earphones but still I thought 
this was a handy discovery.

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List Recorder now can be downloaded directly as a Full Version

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Hi listers,

List Recorder can now be downloaded as a full version in one step.  In the past 
you needed to download the light app and then do an in app upgrade to receive 
the full version.  Now those who want to just purchase the full version can do 
so.  Be sure to download the version that says List Recorder Full.  One bonus 
for those who go right to the full version is that it is $7.99 so it is a 
dollar less then purchasing the light version then doing the in app upgrade. 

Those who just want to spend a dollar to try it first still have that option 
using the original List Recorder app.


One thing to be careful of.  If you are using list Recorder in the .99 cent 
version then decide to upgrade be sure to do that as a in app upgrade or you 
will not be keeping the data in the new app.  List Recorder and List Recorder 
Full are considered  two different apps.
For anyone not familiar with List Recorder, it is a Voice Over friendly 
recording and note taking app with advanced organization ability.  It has many 
features all available to voice Over users.

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Re: I need somebody who has experience with vm fusion 5 on a mac

[Eric Caron]

Chris and others,


One other correction.  I'm using keyremap4macbook and PCKeyboardHack to remap 
keys both on  the apple side and in my VM Fusion machine.  As a result I am 
using the Caps lock key as  the insert and thus using the insert as a screen 
reader modifier.

This allows me to remap on the apple side of things, and I find this much 
easier then working inside the VM.  Thus I have no need of Sharp keys.

Eric Caron 

On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Chris  wrote:

> No. There is some aronious information going on this thread.
> 1. All this talk about Edsharp. It's actually called Sharp Keys and Google is 
> your friend for this one for now.
> 2. We are talking CPU cores here, and not the actual CPU. Vmware Fusion 
> virtualizes everything, even Cpu cores.
> 3. You do not need Bootcamp to use Vmware Fusion.
> 4. There is no Windows for Mac.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 17/10/2012 16:04, Laurel and Stockard wrote:
>> Ok. This is all really helpful. :) I have a couple more questions, where can 
>> I get edsharp? And what is a cpu, you were talking about 1 cpu or 4 cpu? I 
>> am pretty good with computers, but sometimes I miss the technical words. 
>> Also, do I need boot camp going in order to use vm fusion? And I dont need 
>> windows for mac, just regular windows for pc will do right? I am planning on 
>> buying extra ram for my mac and I think I will install jaws on the windows 
>> side.
>> thanks so much for all the advice guys, I really appreciate it. THe only 
>> other thing I wonder, is if there is a step by step tutorial or podcast on 
>> how to install all of this. :)
>> Laurel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:49, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think what they mean is on a laptop  keyboard you cannot modify the caps 
>>> lock key to work as an incert key in fusion for  your guest OS what ever it 
>>> might be. hence you need a key remap software for your guest OS to remap 
>>> another key un my case the right cmd key.
>>> 
>>> Be blessed.
>>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 7:46 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't know why you say the mac doesn't have an insert key - My apple 
>>>> wired USB full-sized keyboard has an insert key in the usual place on the 
>>>> numpad.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sean Murphy" 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: I need somebody who has experience with vm fusion 5 on a mac
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I live in both world's.  Depending on which version of Windows 7 you are 
>>>>> going to use determines the amount of RAM. If you use the 32 bit then you 
>>>>> only need 2 gb of RAM for the OS. If you are going to use 64 bit then you 
>>>>> require 4 gb. So you can get away with only 4gb on the Mac if you only 
>>>>> use the Windows 7 32 bit. Ideally it is best to have more then you 
>>>>> require to prevent any performance reduction on the Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Installing the OS will have the same challenges if you do it on a native 
>>>>> PC. That is, you either do it via a script or have sighted assistance. 
>>>>> What ever screen reader you use will be done in the same fashion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Caveats in relation to settings within VMWare:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. There is an article in the archives that discusses about remapping 
>>>>> keys within the Mac and Windows. Edsharp is the app for windows to remap 
>>>>> keys. The reason for this is that the Mac does not have a insert key and 
>>>>> you cannot use the caps lock key while Voice over is on within Windows. 
>>>>> Voice-Over doesn't pass the key through.
>>>>> 2. Turn off all shortcut keys within the VMWare configuration.
>>>>> 3. Only use a 1 CPU. You do not get any advantage with more then 1.
>>>>> 4. Set up share and access your documents from the VMWare share. This 
>>>>> allows you to access them from windows or the Mac.
>>>>> 5. Install vmware tools in the guess OS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other then this, there is not much more to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/10/2012, at 1:44 PM, Laurel  w

Re: I need somebody who has experience with vm fusion 5 on a mac

[Eric Caron]

Hi Phil,

I also use a full size Apple USB keyboard.  I don't have a insert key.  
Where exactly are you finding yours?

Eric Caron


On Oct 17, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I don't know why you say the mac doesn't have an insert key - My apple wired 
> USB full-sized keyboard has an insert key in the usual place on the numpad.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sean Murphy" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: I need somebody who has experience with vm fusion 5 on a mac
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> I live in both world's.  Depending on which version of Windows 7 you are 
>> going to use determines the amount of RAM. If you use the 32 bit then you 
>> only need 2 gb of RAM for the OS. If you are going to use 64 bit then you 
>> require 4 gb. So you can get away with only 4gb on the Mac if you only use 
>> the Windows 7 32 bit. Ideally it is best to have more then you require to 
>> prevent any performance reduction on the Mac.
>> 
>> Installing the OS will have the same challenges if you do it on a native PC. 
>> That is, you either do it via a script or have sighted assistance. What ever 
>> screen reader you use will be done in the same fashion.
>> 
>> Caveats in relation to settings within VMWare:
>> 
>> 1. There is an article in the archives that discusses about remapping keys 
>> within the Mac and Windows. Edsharp is the app for windows to remap keys. 
>> The reason for this is that the Mac does not have a insert key and you 
>> cannot use the caps lock key while Voice over is on within Windows. 
>> Voice-Over doesn't pass the key through.
>> 2. Turn off all shortcut keys within the VMWare configuration.
>> 3. Only use a 1 CPU. You do not get any advantage with more then 1.
>> 4. Set up share and access your documents from the VMWare share. This allows 
>> you to access them from windows or the Mac.
>> 5. Install vmware tools in the guess OS.
>> 
>> Other then this, there is not much more to do.
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> On 17/10/2012, at 1:44 PM, Laurel  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alrighty, if that's what most people want than it's ok with me. I just
>>> have tuns of questions and I want to be respectful of the list and not
>>> clutter it up too much for people who might be uninterested.
>>> As I understand it, I should have at least 4 gb of ram, I need windows
>>> 7 or 8 the regular version and not windows for mac, and I should
>>> install JAWS on my windows side of my mac so that I can use it when I
>>> need to use a windows program. Is there anything else I should know
>>> before installing? And how hard is it to install and set up.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Laurel
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/12, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>> I really think taking the discussion offlist defeats the purpose of the
>>>> list. I could benefit from the discussion as well, as could others.  I'm
>>>> about to install VMWare fusion 5 soon and would like to hear about others
>>>> experience. Please keep this onlist.
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Gordon Smith" 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: I need somebody who has experience with vm fusion 5 on a mac
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> By all means write privately to me or to Lynne.  or
>>>>> 
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Oct 2012, at 18:08, Laurel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As my subject says, I am looking for an individual who has experience
>>>>> setting up and running vm fusion 5 on a mac. I generally understand
>>>>> how it works, and am planning on installing it on my mac. I do have
>>>>> some questions though, and rather than posing my questions to the
>>>>> entire list, I would like it if I could talk to somebody who is really
>>>>> experienced with this and could help me out. If you have experience
>>>>> setting up/running this program, and can help me, please write me at
>>>>> laurel.stock...@gmail.com. I would prefer if you could write me
>>>>> priavetly, as not to clutter up the list.
>>>>> Thanks so much, I really appreciate it.
>>>>> Laurel
>>>>> P.S.
>>>>> If anybody knows of any go

Re: Caps Lock to VO, KeyRemap4Macbook update

[Eric Caron]

Hi everyone,

Here is the permanent
 link for the updated KeyRemap4Macbook podcast on applevis.com.  This replaces 
the fdropbox link I submitted earlier.

I hope some of you are enjoying this capability.

Eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:

> Hello Listers,
> 
> Below I've written out the steps needed to have the Voice Over Keys, Control 
> and Option, mapped to the caps lock key.  This allows a Voice over user to 
> use caps lock with keys that might be difficult to reach with the standard 
> Control Option VO keys.  In addition this new setting now automatically 
> creates Caps Lock as the modifier in a VM machine.  Finally the application 
> creates a number pad on the standard keyboard centered around the letter i.
> 
> This is a update to my earlier podcast. Takayama Fumihiko, the developer of 
> these applications has changed KeyRemapper4Macbook, making it much easier to 
> set up the computer to use the caps lock as the VO keys.
> 
> Below I will write out the steps to complete the set up.
>  I will also include a link to a recently completed podcast that walks 
> through the new set up.  this is much shorter then the previous podcast as it 
> is much easier to complete the steps.  The podcast is 25 minutes long but the 
> last 4 minutes is for  those who all ready use the applications and want to 
> update.
> 
> I will be submitting this podcast and the written details to applevis.com in 
> the hope that they will post the update.
> 
> - 
> Here are the steps needed to have a number pad added to your keyboard, have 
> caps lock work as a Voice Over Key, and have the Caps lock work as the Jaws 
> key or similar modifier in other screen readers used in VM Fusion.
> Go to the developer web site and download and install both  KeyRemap4MacBook 
> and PCKeyboardHack.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
> 
> Be sure you restart your computer at the end of the install.
> 
> Now go to System Preferences and to Keyboard.  Change the behavior of the 
> Caps lock key to no action. 
> Now also in System Preferences under Other you will find both PCKeyboardhack 
> and Keyremap4Macbook.  go to PCKeyboardhack and in the settings tab in the 
> first table interact on the field that currently reads 51.  Press enter after 
> interacting, then change the number to 110.  This changes the caps lock key 
> to the windows Application key. then close the application 
> 
> Still in System Preferences and in the Other category go to KeyRemap4Macbook. 
>  In the Change Key tab move over to the search field and type in "blind voice 
> over" without the quotes.  then arrow right over to the table.  Interact and 
> you should be on the correct setting.  arrow to the check box and select it.  
> Close the application.
> 
>>>> The new setting name is "Use Caps Lock as Voice Over key."
> Now if you press the caps lock key it will act as if you are pressing the 
> Control and Option keys.  You have the original VO keys to use.  as this only 
> changes the caps lock key.  Also If you press the FN key and letter i you 
> will find it is a 5  and the rest of the number pad is there.  If you turn on 
> num pad commander you can now use the Voice Over controls with this number 
> pad.
> 
> For VM Fusion users you have another bonus.  The caps lock key  will now act 
> as the Jaws key if you are using a VM Fusion machine with windows.
> The Keyremap4macbook application can be used instead of sharp keys or the VM 
> fusion key settings.  they should not be used to try to control the same keys 
> at the same time.
> 
> The Keyremap4macbook needs to be version 
>>>>   7.8.17.
> If you want to be sure you have that one here is the direct link.
>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-7.8.17.dmg
>>>> 
>>>> In VMware Fusion, the Help key will be interpreted as Insert Key.  As this 
>>>> is often the screen reader modifier in Windows screen readers it will now 
>>>> work as the caps lock key.
> for more information here is a helpful link. 
>>>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=1001675
>>>> 
> Here are the steps to update KeyRemap4Macbook if you followed the original 
> podcast and used the Private XML.  this is only for those who want to add the 
> VM Fusion option or simply want the newer application.  The Caps lock key on 
> the Mac and the Num pad behavior will be the same so you may not want to 
> bother to update.
> 
&

Caps Lock to VO, KeyRemap4Macbook update

[Eric Caron]

Then do the same as above.
Go to KeyRemap4Macbook and in the search field enter "blind voice over"  then 
interact with the table and you are on the setting that needs to be checked.

Thats it.
Please remember this is donation supported.  You will find the donation link at 
the same location you downloaded the applications.

Below is the link to the new podcast. that walks through these steps.

Thanks to Esther for bringing this application to my , attention, through her 
post on this list,  and thus ultimately leading to these additional helpful 
keyboard options.

Eric Caron 

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4MacbookUpdate.mp3
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Re: Using mac as bluetooth keyboard

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Hi Chris,

I use the type2phone app and it works well.  There is a good podcast on it by 
David Woodbridge at visionaustralia  

I don't know about the other app.
 Eric Caron 

On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:53 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Hello all.
> Which of the two apps, Type2Phone and iKeyboard, can I use to control 
> VoiceOver on my iPhone as well as manipulating text?
> If there are any other apps, please share.
> Thanks!
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Re: Caps Lock to VO Keys

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Hi mickey,

Here is the direct link to the podcast at applevis.com


http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

Eric Caron 

On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:

> Hello Eric: can you please give me some instructions as to how to find that 
> podcast on the webpage that you provided ?I'd appreciate it thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sara and others,
>> 
>>   Here is the applevis.com link to the podcast on how to change your caps 
>> lock key to the VO keys Control Option.  This is a permanent link and will 
>> work better then the dropbox link I previously posted.
>> 
>> I hope interested listers were able to follow the podcast and are trying out 
>> the new ability to use the caps lock as the VO modifier key.
>> 
>> I'd love to hear peoples impressions of its use once they have a chance to 
>> try it out for a bit.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> cool. Will try this when I'm not working on my online class. This would be 
>>> very very handy.
>>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3
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Re: Caps Lock to VO Keys

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Hi Sara and others,

Here is the applevis.com link to the podcast on how to change your caps 
lock key to the VO keys Control Option.  This is a permanent link and will work 
better then the dropbox link I previously posted.

I hope interested listers were able to follow the podcast and are trying out 
the new ability to use the caps lock as the VO modifier key.

I'd love to hear peoples impressions of its use once they have a chance to try 
it out for a bit.

Eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/applevis-podcast/mac-os-x/remap-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
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> cool. Will try this when I'm not working on my online class. This would be 
> very very handy.
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>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3
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Caps Lock to VO Keys

[Eric Caron]

Hello listers,

I have long wanted the VO keys "Control Option"  to be available as the caps 
lock key.  this would allow one finger to hold down the keys.  Also, the 
location of the Caps Lock key is ideal for reaching many keys that need to be 
pressed with the Voice Over keys.

Using the caps lock key as the VO modifier would dramatically reduce the times 
I find my fingers contorted trying to press multiple keys all over the 
keyboard.  

For those of us who type with our fingers on the home row this allows us to use 
the VO modifier while keeping our hands ready to continue typing.

I'm pleased to let you know that this is now possible.  Thanks to Takayama 
Fumihiko, the developer of KeyRemap4Macbook.  this application in conjunction 
with another application by the same developer allows a Mac user to remap the 
caps lock key as the "Control and Option" keys pressed together.

The other application is called PCKeyboardHack.  These two apps and a file 
created for VO users makes this possible.

Although a write up of this process would probably be more efficient
 for most of us, that is not my strength.  Instead, I have provided a link 
below to a podcast that walks through the set up.

In addition below are links needed to obtain the applications and the specially 
constructed xml file.

Finally, I have provided links to some additional help documentation 

The application developer responded to my request for this capability within 
hours of my written request.  I have also been asked to contact again if there 
are any other ways the application can help blind users.

This was such a nice response.  I'm still amazed as I have written to Apple 
asking for this every few months or so, only getting back the standard 
answer,"thank you for your suggestion." .

I'm so grateful to now have this ability. 

Also, please be aware that this application can also remap other keys.  For 
example you could make the command key on the right of your space bar a Control 
key giving you another set of Voice Over Keys.
 KeyRemap4Macbook also creates a num pad on your regular keyboard.  this makes 
it possible to use num pad commander on a standard keyboard.  

This is covered in a excellent post by Ester on the Mac-Access.net list. 

One gentle reminder.  This is donation ware so if you use this as much as I do 
please support this developer.  and, as we come up with more ways this 
application can help and as the OS changes we will want this developer to 
support us.

This was the most challenging podcast I have created so far.  If you 
see a need for revision please let me know. 

I will be submitting this podcast to applevis.com .  In the meantime here is a 
dropbox link 

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4Macbook.mp3

Below are the links I give in the podcast and also the XML text you will need.

> 
> Link to  KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack applications.
> 
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
> 
> Link to instructions on changing the Caps Lock key to PC application key.  
> the needed key code number is 110.
> 
> 
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
> 
> Link to   private.xml, that  changes PC Application Key to Control+Option.
> 
> https://github.com/tekezo/Files/blob/master/KeyRemap4MacBook/private.pc_application_to_controloption/private.xml
> 
> Link to instructions on how to use private.xml.
> 
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/document-private-xml.html
> 
> 
> The Following is the text of the Private xml
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Change PC Application Key to Control+Option.
>> private.pc_application_to_controloption
>> --KeyToKey-- KeyCode::PC_APPLICATION, KeyCode::OPTION_L, 
>> ModifierFlag::CONTROL_L
>> 
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Re: NumPad on laptop Macs and KeyRemap4Macbook

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Hello Esther and others,

I have written to the developer and the answer implies that it may be 
possible to have the caps lock act as the VO keys.  I have not yet successfully 
followed all the directions but am getting close.  Once I get it re mapped I 
can test it out.

Fixing the delay in the caps lock behavior is mentioned.  As part of the 
solution I needed to change the caps lock behavior in system preferences, 
Keyboard to no action. 

My current problem is that I can't figure out how to download and install a 
needed specially built xml file.  I'm very hopefull that I will eventually find 
this works.  

I'm so glad Esther brought this app to our attention.  I suspect it's uses will 
continue to be discovered. 
Eric Caron 

On Aug 24, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> I'll interleave my responses to your comments.
>> •This app is a great help to me.  If I had only had this a few years ago 
>> I probably would not have bothered buying full sized USB keyboards for my 
>> Mac book.  I now have full size keyboards on all my Macs.  The reason for 
>> this is the desire to have VO keys on both sides of the space bar and also 
>> because I rely a lot on the keyboard commander.  With this Key mapping app 
>> set up I probably will stop bringing the extra  keyboard with me when 
>> traveling.
> 
> Glad to hear you find this useful.  I found out about KeyRemap4Macbook about 
> two years ago, but didn't take note of the default NumPad setup until earlier 
> this year.  The ability to use all the NumPad Commander definitions with 
> modifier keys in this mode is what really sparked my interest. There are 
> actually iPhone NumPad apps that let you use your phone as an external NumPad 
> through Wi-Fi and which will support modifier keys in NumPad Commander, but 
> stability of performance is an issue -- at the present time there's too much 
> tendency to repeat keys and either lag or stutter to use this with any 
> reliability, though it has worked at times in the past.  
> 
>> • I do have one question.  I looked at the Caps lock area because I would 
>> have loved to be able to map the caps lock to serve as VO keys.  It talks 
>> there about caps lock being a special key and gives some directions that 
>> seem to imply it might be possible to do this.  But this is not clear to me 
>> as it talks about using a PC hak and gives a web site.
>> If it is possible to remap the caps lock using this app I would love to do 
>> so.  I've seen many other mac users asking for this as well.
>> 
>> If anyone figures out how to do this or if it is possible using this app 
>> please share your findings.
>> 
>> In my case I have enabled the num pad and changed the right command key to 
>> left control.  Currently only active on my internal keyboard. 
>> 
>> If Caps lock is possible to use as VO keys, I will use that and put my right 
>> command back to command.  I'll then activate this for all keyboards. 
>> 
>> If this is possible I will use the app a lot so will quickly donate! 
>> 
>> Thanks for any info on my caps lock question!
> 
> The caps lock key behavior on the Mac was changed about the same time the 
> embedded NumPad was removed.  Unlike all other keys, the caps lock has a 
> slight delay before it takes effect. This is the source of the difficulties 
> in remapping the insert key to caps lock in VMWare Fusion after that change.
> 
> It's also why KR4MB refers to a PC layout to get caps lock remapping working. 
>  I'm not sure how to achieve this. And will not be able to check for at least 
> a week due to travel.
>> 
>> By the way, I think donating to these developers, who create apps we use is 
>> a good thing.  I was pleasantly surprised when Carbon Copy Cloner became a 
>> paid app that I did not need to pay.  Apparently because I donated I was 
>> grandfathered in and not asked to pay another fee.  It seemed like a small 
>> example of doing something nice and having something nice come back to me as 
>> a result.
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
> Agreed. Some donation ware software has proved extremely useful and well 
> worth subsidizing.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: VMware Fusion

[Eric Caron]

Hi Christopher,

At this time I'm not aware of anyone who has found a way to have the 
apple keyboard caps lock work in the VM Fusion  application in the same way it 
does with Windows screen readers.  What most people have done is choose another 
key to map as the insert key for example if you are a JAWS user.  In my case I 
first used Sharp keys on the Windows side.  Later I reversed that and turned 
off all the Sharp Key stuff.  I then used the VM Fusion assignment table to 
change the key above tab to be my caps lock modifier.  This works pretty well 
though I think the Caps lock key is the best modifier for any screen reader. 

I did this back in VM Fusion 3.0 and my settings held when I updated to VM 4 so 
I don't know exactly how to do it as the interface is quite different.  I would 
recommend using VM Fusion first as I found it easier and it is nice that the 
settings held for future machines and future updates.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Eric Caron 
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:10 AM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Hello all.
> Really getting on well with my Macbook Pro 13 Inch. I have installed VMware 
> Fusion 5 last night and am giving it a test drive before considering to 
> purchase it for times when I want to use Windows. Now my question is how on 
> earth do I use the caps lock key in the virtual machine? Asking as I have 
> installed NVDA and have set it to use the laptop keyboard layout. The caps 
> lock is simply being ignored and is therefore sent to the host. Is it true 
> that I need to remap some keys? If so how is this done?
> All help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: NumPad on laptop Macs and KeyRemap4Macbook

[Eric Caron]

Hi Esther and others,

This app is a great help to me.  If I had only had this a few years ago 
I probably would not have bothered buying full sized USB keyboards for my Mac 
book.  I now have full size keyboards on all my Macs.  The reason for this is 
the desire to have VO keys on both sides of the space bar and also because I 
rely a lot on the keyboard commander.  With this Key mapping app set up I 
probably will stop bringing the extra  keyboard with me when traveling.

I do have one question.  I looked at the Caps lock area because I would have 
loved to be able to map the caps lock to serve as VO keys.  It talks there 
about caps lock being a special key and gives some directions that seem to 
imply it might be possible to do this.  But this is not clear to me as it talks 
about using a PC hak and gives a web site.
 If it is possible to remap the caps lock using this app I would love to do so. 
 I've seen many other mac users asking for this as well.

If anyone figures out how to do this or if it is possible using this app please 
share your findings.

In my case I have enabled the num pad and changed the right command key to left 
control.  Currently only active on my internal keyboard. 

If Caps lock is possible to use as VO keys, I will use that and put my right 
command back to command.  I'll then activate this for all keyboards. 

If this is possible I will use the app a lot so will quickly donate! 

Thanks for any info on my caps lock question!

By the way, I think donating to these developers, who create apps we use is a 
good thing.  I was pleasantly surprised when Carbon Copy Cloner became a paid 
app that I did not need to pay.  Apparently because I donated I was 
grandfathered in and not asked to pay another fee.  It seemed like a small 
example of doing something nice and having something nice come back to me as a 
result.


Eric Caron 

On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Gordon asked me to draft up a version of my post on KeyRemap4Macbook, so I'm 
> posting a first draft.  Basically, this is keyboard remapping software that 
> automatically lets you use an embedded numeric keypad on the right side of 
> the keyboard by adding a press of the "Fn" key.  This also, incidentally, 
> gives you access to NumPad Commander custom key definitions in VoiceOver if 
> you enable NumPad Commander.  Additionally, you can use this software for 
> regular keyboard remapping both on your current keyboard, other external 
> keyboard, and in a virtual machine.
> 
> I'm limited as to what I can test -- I don't run Windows or VMWare Fusion, so 
> I haven't tried to remap PC keyboards.  Also, I'm not running Mountain Lion 
> yet, so although I know this will install under ML, I believe you're prompted 
> to bring up the context menu to run the GateKeeper authorization.  I can't 
> give explicit directions for this.
> 
> Please give feedback on the contents (which are rather long).  So far I 
> haven't heard whether anyone else has tried this.  I'll post the draft below 
> my signature.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> Getting NumPad and VoiceOver NumPad Commander functions on Mac Laptops
> 
> When Apple introduced NumPad Commander customizable keyboard shortcuts for 
> VoiceOver in Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5, October 2007) it followed up by almost 
> immediately removing embedded numeric keypads on its laptops, effectively 
> limiting full use of these shortcuts to the extended keyboards of desktop 
> Macs.  Here we outline how you can recover these capabilities by installing 
> the KeyRemap4MacBook application.  This also lets desktop map users access 
> NumPad and NumPad Commander functions when they are using the Apple Wireless 
> Keyboard, since the application works for all Macs, and not just the MacBook.
> 
> KeyRemap4MacBook (hereafter, KR4MB) is a keyboard remapper for the Mac that 
> can be freely downloaded from:
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
> This program, developed by Takayama Fumihiko, who maintains a Google Groups  
> mailing list for questions and support issues, is donationware (free to 
> download, but with the suggestion that you make a donation if you find it 
> useful). When the downloaded .dmg file is opened, and the installer is run, a 
> "KeyRemap4MacBook" preference pane is added to your System Preferences.
> 
> By default, when KR4MB is installed on your Mac, you can access the NumPad 
> using keys on the right side of your keyboard pressed in combination with the 
> "Fn" key.  Furthermore, if you have NumPad Commander enabled, you will be 
> able to execute the full range of NumPad Commander custom definitions, 
> including combinations with modifier keys such as Control, Command, Shift, 
> etc.

Re: Track Pad, how to assign a key stroke to a gesture?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Geoff,

Thanks for this.  If I ever find the script all ready made  I'll assign 
a gesture.  In the meantime I'll stop searching the menu area for the enter key 
or spacebar keystroke.

Best.

Eric Caron 
On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:24 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> I invested the life changing sum of twenty bucks for ML, but alas it's not 
> yet installed on my mid 2010 MBP.  This is because like Sarah, I always 
> install a new OS on a clean partition, and have finally gotten around to 
> backing things up, but I digress.  So much for disclaimers, but I can only 
> speak for Lion when saying that the trackpad commander does not directly 
> support what you're trying to do.  I assume that ML has not changed in this 
> regard.
> 
> All is not lost, however, because a potentially powerful feature in trackpad, 
> keyboard, numpad and navkey commanders is the ability to attach scripts or 
> autamator workflows to specific gestures or key strokes.  You'll find this 
> under the "custom commands" menu.  I did some cursory googling on the string 
> "applescript enter-key" and found several references, but this little example 
> describing  how to simulate the enter key seemed to be the best starting 
> point, as it links to a way to ascertain all the keycodes.
> 
> Best regards,
> Geoff
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Eric Caron 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:44 PM
>  Subject: Track Pad, how to assign a key stroke to a gesture?
> 
> 
>  Hello Listers,
> 
>  I've been using my track pad more lately.  i would like a gesture that 
> either presses the space bar or presses enter.  This would be helpful in 
> iTunes.  I looked tour the help documentation and through Voice Over utility 
> but did not find a way to assign this to a gesture.  Is this possible?  if so 
> how?
> 
>  Eric Caron 
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Dropbox finally working for sure

[Eric Caron]

Listers,

For anyone in the future having trouble with installing Dropbox here 
are a few more tips.

I thought I had fixed mine earlier but in the end it was still not sinking.  
Finally it is now working correctly.  Here is what finally worked.

First,  I had dropbox working on Lyon but after update it would not work saying 
it didn't have permission 
I tried the usual tricks but no luck.

So here is what worked.

First go to the extras menu in Mountain Lion, under dropbox go to preferences 
Then in the tool bar select account 
now unlink the computer 
I then backed up the important contents of Dropbox to be extra safe.
I then quit the dropbox process in Activity Monitor 
Then deleted the dropbox app 
Then a new step.  I deleted my dropbox folder from my computer.
I then reinstalled dropbox from my desk top area being sure not to first place 
the app in the app folder.
The instructions worked normally this time and the status is now All files up 
to date.

Wow!  this was so much more complicated then when I did the first update to 
Mountain Lion.  that time things just worked.

Best.

Eric Caron 

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Mixer info wanted

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

I really don't know what a sound mixer is or how it works, but I have a 
sound need and I'm wondering if a simple mixer could help.

If you have mixer knowledge maybe you can help.


I have several devices I want to be able to feed into my stereo.
.  It would be nice if the sound from more then one source could be played at 
once.  is this something a mixer can do?  

Any mixer tips would be appreciated.  I'm really starting with no knowledge and 
don't have stores I can go to to just look around.

Thanks.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Message on mountain lion issue resolved.

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Listers,

I whish I had understood this message issue and solution better.  I 
would have saved a lot of time.  This same thing happened to me.  Each time I 
updated to Mountain Lion the messages app did not work.  For some reason it 
insists on starting Google talk, or Jabber or whatever.  Once that is turned 
off it seemes to work fine. 

Look out for this future Mountain Lion updaters.

Eric Caron 

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> It's typical that just after I ask for assistance, I sort out my issue even 
> though I couldn't for the few days previously to me asking. Sorry all for 
> waisting peoples time and patients so early on.
> Some how I had activated the google chat function. I didn't even know it 
> existed actually. Now that I've deactivated talk.google.com my iMessage texts 
> are sending and I can get on and learn the inns and outs of message.
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Re: our Podcast Now Works

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Hi Gordon and others,

I tried to copy the link into iTunes but couldn't get it to work 
either.  has anyone gotten it to work?


Eric Caron 
On Aug 11, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Arthur Barney  wrote:

> Hi Gordon,
> that URL doesn't work.
> On 2012-08-11, at 2:31 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
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>> OK, our podcast now works!  You can listen to Paul's demo of audio editing 
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Re: Dropbox install process not working

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Hi Gordon,

Thanks very much for your help with this Dropbox mystery.  I repeated 
the steps again and this time restarted my computer.  I then ran the Dropbox 
installer 1.5.8.  Sadly it acted the same way.  It never asked me if I had a 
account or needed to open one.  It just did Dropbox has no windows.

Earlier today before getting the tip to restart I had a sighted visitor so 
asked him to try.  Even when he followed the sighted instructions it got to the 
point where it had no info and never asked for my user name and password.  

I used this same installer on my new Mac book Pro and the old Mac Book 
following the process and it worked fine.

Any tips on what I can try with the Mini is appreciated.

Everything else seems fine on the Mini at the moment.  The Mountain Lion update 
was done only yesterday. 

I actually rely on DropBox so it is difficult not having it working on 
this machine.

I'll probably try the 1.4 version again but don't think that will make a 
difference. 

Again, tips wanted!

Eric Caron 

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> Hi Eric
> 
> You missed one important step in the process I think.  After stopping the 
> DropBox process, deleting the app, you didn't restart your machine.
> 
> I've found this to be important.  Remember also that, if you upgraded 
> Mountain Lion from Lion, your existing app settings would stick, as long as 
> they are compatible.
> 
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> 
>   I've followed the Dropbox tips carefully over the past discussions and 
> used them successfully in the past.  today I installed Mountain Lion on my 
> Mini and dropbox is not sinking.  it claims it does not have permission.
> 
> I stopped the Dropbox process in Activity Monitor.  I deleted the app 
> completely from my mini and then ran the DMG of Dropbox from my desktop.  
> Also later I repeated and ran it from my downloads.  I tried both version 1.5 
> and 1.4.
> 
> In all cases I got the dreaded Dropbox has no windows.  I was never asked for 
> my sign in criteria.
> 
> I successfully followed this process and got Dropbox working on my Mac Book 
> Pro.  So I'm surprised the same process is not working on the mini.
> 
> Tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Mini and screen update

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Listers,

Well, it is definitely the case that a mini such as my September 2011 
must have a monitor or the clever trick described earlier on this list, to work 
correctly.

Here are some observations that happened once the display was hooked up.

Voice Over came up talking at restart before I needed to press command F5 
the finder worked correctly when Dropbox app was launched.
When in iTunes I can now play music and also use Voice over to navigate iTunes. 
 Before it was busy all the time when using iTunes with music playing.

I'm sure there are more places that the mini will be working correctly with a 
monitor.  This seems rather unfortunate for those of us that don't need a 
monitor.

So though I've heard that some claim the mini is fine without a monitor at 
least I can say that this rather standard configuration 2.3 I 5 model must have 
a monitor or the equivalent device to trick it. 

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Dropbox install process not working

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Hi Listers,

I've followed the Dropbox tips carefully over the past discussions and 
used them successfully in the past.  today I installed Mountain Lion on my Mini 
and dropbox is not sinking.  it claims it does not have permission.

I stopped the Dropbox process in Activity Monitor.  I deleted the app 
completely from my mini and then ran the DMG of Dropbox from my desktop.  Also 
later I repeated and ran it from my downloads.  I tried both version 1.5 and 
1.4.

In all cases I got the dreaded Dropbox has no windows.  I was never asked for 
my sign in criteria.

I successfully followed this process and got Dropbox working on my Mac Book 
Pro.  So I'm surprised the same process is not working on the mini.

Tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Bluetooth missing and how to get it back

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Hi listers,

On my new Mac book Pro running Mountain Lion I went to system 
preferences and went to find Bluetooth and got a shock.  The button was not 
there.  For a moment I thought my new computer did not have Bluetooth.  I 
called Apple and the support person said she had just had a similar call, but 
the caller did not have time to trouble shoot.  We did and we solved the 
problem.

she had me shutdown the computer and then press "Control, option, shift" on the 
left side of the keyboard and the on switch all at once just for a moment.  she 
did not expect my computer to turn on but it did.  even so when I went back to 
System preferences the Bluetooth button was now available.  previously in the 
Extras menu Bluetooth said "unavailable" now it has a useful menu. 

I'm posting this for the archives and for any interested readers. 

I will add this key combination at start up to my bad of tricks.  I believe she 
called it the System master Controller


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Re: Unable to see my files

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Hi Kristeen,

I'm just starting to play with this on my computers and find it very 
helpful when it works.  I have not gotten everything I want to share yet.
I have noticed a few things that make using the share area a little 
challenging.  One is that if you have a share point designated and then go to 
check that it is working it sometimes moves you on the table to a different 
user.  

so what I'm trying to say is though you think all the settings on both 
computers are the same you might find when double checking that something is 
still on read rather then read and write.

As I said I'm just learning and only at about 80% success at this point.

please keep the tips on the list as I'll be following this.

eric  Caron
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> Since upgrading to ML, I can no longer see the files on another computer on 
> my network. Both of the computers in question are Mac aminis running ML and 
> are configured in the same ways. One of them can see the shares of any 
> machine; the other cannot. I can connect to the share folders or drives, but 
> they never populate with their contents. Does anyone know what might be going 
> on?
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Track Pad, how to assign a key stroke to a gesture?

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Hello Listers,

I've been using my track pad more lately.  i would like a gesture that 
either presses the space bar or presses enter.  This would be helpful in 
iTunes.  I looked tour the help documentation and through Voice Over utility 
but did not find a way to assign this to a gesture.  Is this possible?  if so 
how?

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Back to my Mac, can it work with Voiceover?

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Listers,

I experimented with Back to MY Mac in a effort to get my laptop to 
control my mini.  This would be very helpful if it worked as intended as I 
could basically operate my home computer from work.  Well, I found it possible 
to do quite a bit but voice over talks on the home computer not the one that is 
operating it.  So this will not work remotely.  

Has anyone found a way to do this?  Is it improved in Mountain Lion?

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Re: How to use a remote disk drive?

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Dear Listers,

Here I go again answering my own question.  I'm putting this here for 
anyone who eventually finds this on the archives and is looking for the answer. 
 While exploring sharing options for files and such I found how to have one mac 
share another computer's disk drive.  

This is in Lion 
I had asked for help  doing this a week or so ago but got no takers.

Go to System Preferences 
Go to sharing 
on the mac with the disk drive go to the sharing table and check the box for 
disk drives.
Add in the correct user in the next table 
I then pressed the button that said share point and added myself in.


Frankly I don't totally understand these tables and what they mean but it now 
works! 

While I was there I set up file sharing as well and now can easily move files 
around from one computer to the other as I can see the other computer's disc 
drives on each desk top and move around and copy files as needed.

It is rather like magic to work on two computers from one keyboard.


Hope this info helps a current or future lister. 

eric Caron 
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>   I've seen several references to people using a remote disc drive on 
> another Mac with their Mac Book Air or Mini.  And, this will be used more 
> often with the new mac Book Pro that has no CD drive.  Can someone familiar 
> with this process describe the steps needed?  In my case I have a mini and a 
> mac book.  I will also eventually have another mac and it would be helpful to 
> be able to leave the superdrive connected to one computer or just use the one 
> on the mac book for all the computers.
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Re: Reminder Help

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Hi Jane,

I did two podcasts on using the Reminders app.  they are at 
applevis.com.  I'll post the links below.  i did these podcasts to make using 
the app easier for other blind iPhone users.  I like the app but it was a 
challenge for me to learn at first.

Hope this helps.

Eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/using-reminders-create-and-manage-tasks-and-lists

> http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-some-advanced-features-reminders-app
> 

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> I have the Reminders app on my iPod, but I have no idea how to use it, not 
> really. I usually just email myself notes.  My daughter starts school in a 
> month or so, and there are other things we have to get done before that that 
> I want reminders to pop up about--tests we have to make sure she takes, times 
> I can check on what she's up to, and so on.  So, how do I use Reminders to do 
> this?  Some will need to be recurring reminders, like to check on her work 
> each day and on her progress updates from instructors each week or two, so 
> they will need to be recurring. Others will probably need to be entered in 
> once and then forgotten.
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Re: Mountain lion on the mac mini

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Hi Trevor,

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:27 AM, trevor scott wrote:

> I'm glad to say that what ever they have done in mountain lion, I don't have 
> to keep pressing command F5 any more every time I turn on my mac mini.
> 
I'm wondering Trevor, are you using a monitor with your mini?  Either way are 
you noticing other Mini specific changes?

thanks, I'm running a standard mini and prefer running without a display but 
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Re: Fleksy [Revisited]

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Dear Gordon,

If you did not find what you need in the archive then I would encourage 
you to keep this discussion on the list.  I'm still interested in reading more 
about user's experiences with Fleksy.

Thanks,

eric Caron 
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> 
> OK, given everything that's been happening recently around here, and also the 
> stuff that's changed regarding Mac OS X and iOS, I have totally forgotten how 
> to use Fleksy.  I only tried it once when Lynne bought it.  But I am tired of 
> having to use the virtual keyboard when I want to type a message which is 
> rich in detail.  So, I guess, I have two options.  Either I try to dictate 
> messages to my iPhone, (which I find quite irritating because it still makes 
> errors), or else I find a more convenient method of typing.
> 
> The hardware keyboard is an option when not portable. But when I'm in an 
> environment where it isn't appropriate to carry a bulky keyboard around with 
> me, I need to type directly into the iPhone.  And that would seem to be where 
> Fleksy comes into play.
> 
> Could somebody who knows how to use this software well, please write to me 
> privately so that we can maybe discuss it without boring the group with 
> something already covered?  I've just been checking the list archive but I 
> can't find something as comprehensive as I need.  My address is:
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How to use a remote disk drive?

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Re: Merge Utility and VM Fusion

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Hi Brian,

On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Eric --A few thoughts:
> 1. Regarding a utility named "Merge" -- Might you perhaps be referring to 
> Apple's utility named "Migration Assistant?" If you really are using a 
> program named Merge, could you provide some more details about it, such as 
> where you found this utility, what it is supposed to do, what version you are 
> running?

Migration Assistant is what I used.  Sorry for the name confusion.

> 2. Did you completely power down the VM before beginning the process of 
> moving it to the new mac? VMWare specifically warns against copying virtual 
> machines that are in sleep, suspend or hibernation mode.
yes, it was completely shut down.


> 3. What model mac are you copying from / to? They will likely have different 
> hardware components which means the VMs will likely require

> different device drivers, thus possibly requiring a re-run of the VM Tools 
> utility on the new mac.

old computer 2009 mac book 
new computer 2011 Mini
When I try to start the VM it just says VM fusion has no windows.  When I try 
to start the VM all the choices are dimmed.


when I tried to import I did find a message that said the configuration file is 
corrupt.




> 4. Did you use this "Merge" utility to move the VMWare Fusion Application 
> from your old mac to the new? I'm referring to the Fusion application itself, 
> not just the virtual machine. Perhaps you might try installing Fusion from 
> scratch on the new machine and, if you are considering upgrading to version 4 
> as you mentioned, maybe don't even bother installing your current version, 
> just go with the trial of version 4, which you can download from VMWare.com. 
> It'll import your existing VMs and you'll be able to get a feel for the new 
> version before deciding whether you want to upgrade.
> Yes I moved it using migration Assistant 
I was hoping it would just work with version 3.1 for awhile as I am afraid to 
use up the darn jAWS keys 

I had tried some time ago to upgrade to VM fusion 4 and the VM did not work 
correctly that is JAWS didn't and I wasted several authorizations..  .  the 
next time I upgrade I plan to just start from scratch with a new install of the 
VM 4 and win 7 and jaws.

I may use this as a opportunity to do a updated podcast on the process.  though 
it may take a long time as I expect i'll make many mistakes. 
But a updated walk through would probably be helpful to many mac users.

Perhaps I'll just let the vM update to version 4 as it keeps asking me.  and 
then from there do a completely new install.

these tips and thoughts are very helpful and appreciated.

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Re: Merge Utility and VM Fusion

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Hi Zach,

Merge was just the Apple program that brings everything from a old 
computer to a new one.  I appreciate the info you gave.  It sounds like it 
should have just worked.  it was rather strange as when I tried to open the 
virtual machine VM Fusion would open and just say VM Fusion has no windows.  I 
went to file and import but that didn't work either.
I'm going  to manually copy the virtual machine over to the new 
computer and try again.

the fact is I have three jaws keys available and need all three for 
three new computers two at home and one at work.   I can't afford to mess this 
up.  I was hoping by some miracle the old machine would work on the new system 
for awhile.

so I'm copying it over to my time capsule and then over to the new mini.  maybe 
that will do it.  If not I'll probably go for a new install.  I need to move to 
VM fusion 4 anyway.

thanks again for your info.

Eric Caron 
On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> I don't know about this merge program, but Fusion machines are bundles, which 
> you can copy from one machine to another manually using normal Finder 
> commands. This is one way to back them up, and handy if you don't want to 
> mess with things like snapshots in Fusion. You can probably just put them 
> into your Virtual Machines folder and go from there.
> Hope this helps,
> Zack.
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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>> hello Listers,
>> 
>>  Recently I used the Merge utility to move my data and apps to my new 
>> Mini.  One of the things I have on my old computer is a working VM Fusion 
>> machine.  I see it on my new system but when I try to start it nothing 
>> happens.  Can the VM Fusion application and my one machine be placed on the 
>> other computer using merge?  is there a way to get it functioning on the new 
>> computer?
>> 
>> Is it perhaps not possible to use the merge utility to move VM fusion and a 
>> machine?
>> 
>> Info is greatly appreciated as I will need to do another merge in a few 
>> weeks.
>> 
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Merge Utility and VM Fusion

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hello Listers,

Recently I used the Merge utility to move my data and apps to my new 
Mini.  One of the things I have on my old computer is a working VM Fusion 
machine.  I see it on my new system but when I try to start it nothing happens. 
 Can the VM Fusion application and my one machine be placed on the other 
computer using merge?  is there a way to get it functioning on the new computer?

Is it perhaps not possible to use the merge utility to move VM fusion and a 
machine?

Info is greatly appreciated as I will need to do another merge in a few weeks.

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Re: Dropbox,Finder, and Mini not playing nice together

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hello Esther and others,

that was a interesting article.  I thought  that it was possible that 
maybe Dropbox took up more bandwidth then Google Drive causing the busy 
problem, but the article seems to imply that The default Dropbox setting is 
taking up less.
If I can figure out how to access the Dropbox settings I'll try to play 
with them.  it would be fun to try to fix the problem.

the Mini is a greg little computer over all.  It is very snappy compared to my 
2009 mac book with 4 gigs.  this 2011 computer with 8 gigs is deffinately more 
responsive.I would be perfectly happy to use it without a screen, but if 
unexpected performance problems can be avoided by getting a screen then that 
will be my solution. 


Now I just need to learn a little about modern computer screens as I have not 
looked into that for well over a decade.  I don't even know what HDMI stands 
for or what the HDMI to DVI converter cable is. 

Anyone out there have screen info for me?

Eric Caron 
 
On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> That's very interesting about being able to use Google Drive.  I think the 
> relevant property about the kind of outside network resources that you use, 
> and how it might impact your Mac Mini's Finder busy message, is what happens 
> with the file syncing and updating of information.  With Dropbox, and also 
> with Google Drive, there are advanced menu options for controlling what you 
> sync and the syncing speeds for upload and download.  I've never experimented 
> with these, but this basically establishes the amount of network bandwidth 
> you might be using with your various file operations.  I suspect that this is 
> what is contributing to amount of Finder activity that you're seeing without 
> a monitor.  In the meantime, you've provided a useful piece of information 
> for other Mini users who want to use a file transfer facility.
> 
> I'll give you a link to a recent Lifehacker article that compares Google 
> Drive and Dropbox, and describes the differences in syncing speed.  There's 
> also an interesting comment about being able to use Google's OCR capabilities 
> on scanned document files.  I'm not sure whether all the features that are 
> mentioned are accessible.
> • "File Syncing Faceoff: Dropbox vs. Google Drive" by Whitson Gordon, April 
> 24, 2012
> http://lifehacker.com/5904731/desktop-file-syncing-faceoff-dropbox-vs-google-drive
> 
> Hope you are otherwise enjoying your Mini.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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>> Hi Esther and others,
>> 
>>  the blog post from John is very helpful and makes me feel better that 
>> once I find a monitor I'll have a nicely functioning mini.  One interesting 
>> thing about the observation concerning  outside network resources.  I have 
>> this problem with Dropbox but not with google drive.  
>> 
>> This is helpful as I can use google drive as a easy way to transfer files to 
>> and from my mini just like dropbox.  i'll do this until I find a monitor.  I 
>> do rely on Dropbox so this is only a temporary solution.
>> 
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Re: Dropbox,Finder, and Mini not playing nice together

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Hi Esther and others,

the blog post from John is very helpful and makes me feel better that 
once I find a monitor I'll have a nicely functioning mini.  One interesting 
thing about the observation concerning  outside network resources.  I have this 
problem with Dropbox but not with google drive.  

This is helpful as I can use google drive as a easy way to transfer files to 
and from my mini just like dropbox.  i'll do this until I find a monitor.  I do 
rely on Dropbox so this is only a temporary solution.

Eric Caron 


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> Hi Eric,
> 
> This sluggishness happens whenever you try to access external network 
> resources.  If you were trying to connect to a Windows machine as a networked 
> device, or if you were using the now defunct MobileMe's iDisk, you would also 
> get the Finder busy messages while running without without a monitor. (Well, 
> you might get fewer busy messages if the connection were only on your local 
> network.) I don't think this behavior can be changed according to the version 
> of Dropbox, unfortunately.  And I suspect that it won't go away with Mountain 
> Lion, since similar behavior has been found for Mac Minis running without a 
> monitor in  early operating  systems.  I'm afraid that you'll either need to 
> connect a monitor or get the Sewell Electronics adapter and use that with the 
> Apple connector as John described in his "Adventures with My Mac Mini" blog 
> post at his macfortheblind.com web page:
> http://macfortheblind.com/?p=591
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Esther
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>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> For anyone else using a mini, or if a similar problem developes here is what 
>> happened for me with Dropbox and mmy finder.
>> last week I installed dropbox on my September 2011 mini, using OS 10.7.4 .   
>> soon after that I noticed that my finder became busy and very sluggish.  it 
>> was almost unusable.  relunching the finder and restarting the computer did 
>> not help.  finally, I called apple.  After extended time struggling for 
>> solutions using the sluggish finder we finally removed dropbox from the 
>> start at login area under users in the system preferences.  That did it.  
>> the mini became snappy and very responsive again. 
>> 
>> I tried several older versions of dropbox and the newest beta and the 
>> problem remains.  this is happening under Lyon so I'm hoping that maybe with 
>> Mountain Lyon the problem will go away.
>> 
>> If anyone has this problem then at least this provides a temporary solution.
>> 
>> if someone knows how I might use dropbox on a mini with no monitor please 
>> share.
>> 
>> Eventually, I will obtain a monitor and I will be very curious to see if 
>> that truly solves some of  these strange behaviors with the mini.
>> 
>> 
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Dropbox,Finder, and Mini not playing nice together

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Hi listers,

For anyone else using a mini, or if a similar problem developes here is what 
happened for me with Dropbox and mmy finder.
last week I installed dropbox on my September 2011 mini, using OS 10.7.4 .   
soon after that I noticed that my finder became busy and very sluggish.  it was 
almost unusable.  relunching the finder and restarting the computer did not 
help.  finally, I called apple.  After extended time struggling for solutions 
using the sluggish finder we finally removed dropbox from the start at login 
area under users in the system preferences.  That did it.  the mini became 
snappy and very responsive again. 

I tried several older versions of dropbox and the newest beta and the problem 
remains.  this is happening under Lyon so I'm hoping that maybe with Mountain 
Lyon the problem will go away.

If anyone has this problem then at least this provides a temporary solution.

if someone knows how I might use dropbox on a mini with no monitor please share.

Eventually, I will obtain a monitor and I will be very curious to see if that 
truly solves some of  these strange behaviors with the mini.


Eric Caron 

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Location of newest Dropbox build?

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Listers,

Can someone give me a link or tip as to where to find the newest Dropbox build? 
 I had some problems with version 1.4 taken from the Dropbox site.

I'm thinking there was a version 1.5. 

I tried going to the mac-Access software collection but my link took me 
to a page that would not open.

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Infovox ivox voices and Mountain Lyon

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hi Listers,

Recently I exchanged a few emails with the folks that support the 
Infovox iVox voices.  I asked in passing about the voices and Mountain Lyon.  
they wrote back that they would not recommend updating as they were not sure at 
the voices would work.

so I wanted to suggest that if you heavily use those voices you may want to 
consider waiting on the upgrade when it becomes available.

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Re: Mac mini July 2011 screen question

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Gordon and other mini users,

On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi Jim
> 
> I'm still at a loss as to why you're having these problems, but we are not.  
> We've never had the slightest problem in this area with our server machines 
> and as I told you we have 9 of them in total.  Only 1 has, and has ever had, 
> a monitor connected to it.  The other 8 just got set up by me and are largely 
> left to their own devices, pardon the pun.

for several days now my mini has been working very well and fast.  But suddenly 
in the finder only, things have gone wrong.  the Finder is constantly busy and 
I move in it like walking in quicksand.  yet other appps load and run very fast 
and normally.  turning off the mini or restarting Finder doesn't help.  I also 
tried holding down "P,R, command, and Option" at start up and that did not 
clear things.

Can someone suggest ways I can get my finder back?

is this the dreaded no screen issue in full effect?  I thought that slowed down 
Safari and other apps not just the Finder.


Eric Caron 

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List Recorder 2.4 What's new podcast

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Hello fellow listers,

Below is a link to a podcast I just sent to applevis.com.  It goes over 
the new features in List recorder 2.4.  the update was just sent to Apple. 

List Recorder is a feature rich audio recorder, note taker and organizer.  It 
is designed to be fully functional with Voice Over and useful to sighted folks 
as well.

Here are the most important new features:

When using m4a you can add to a existing recording.  You can both append to the 
end or Prefix allows you to ad to the beginning.  I knew i would like Append 
but I actually use prefix more.

Remote  may be familiar to those who use the music app especially with the ear 
buds.  this lets you start and stop play back of a item with a two finger 
double tap.  It also works insider outside the app.  this also lets the user 
control many of the audio playback options with either the ear buds remote or 
the controls found on the far left screen in the app switcher.  It even lets 
you use air play if you like.

this version adds two more languages Dutch and Sweedish.  All languages have 
been translated by volunteers, many met from this list.  If the language you 
want is not there and you can help translate consider contacting me and I could 
help set that up.


I really enjoyed working on this beta.  I hope you find this podcast and the 
new version helpful.

Eric Caron 

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Re: system voice location?

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Hi Sarah,

That did the trick.  I remember it was in a unusual place, but couldn't 
find it again.

All is working well again.

Eric Caron 

On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> go to speech then text to speech and you should be good to go. Your system 
> voice will be in a little pop up button.
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>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I can't believe I have not found it but despite my best efforts I can't 
>> seem to find where I set the system voice.
>> 
>>  Somewhere along the way I set it to a voice that I now need to change.  
>> I've looked in system preferences under sound and under speech and have not 
>> found it. 
>> 
>> I'm especially noticing it in Skype where I have many things spoken.   but 
>> I'm pretty sure Skype is just using my system voice.
>> 
>> I feel rather silly that I couldn't find it.
>> 
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system voice location?

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Hi listers,

I can't believe I have not found it but despite my best efforts I can't 
seem to find where I set the system voice.

Somewhere along the way I set it to a voice that I now need to change.  
I've looked in system preferences under sound and under speech and have not 
found it. 

I'm especially noticing it in Skype where I have many things spoken.   but I'm 
pretty sure Skype is just using my system voice.

I feel rather silly that I couldn't find it.

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Voice Over at %30 CPU?

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Hi Listers,

Due to several computer issues I've been looking at Activity Monitor more then 
usual.  On my 2009 mac book I'm seeing %23 up to %30 cpu for Voice Over along.  
I thought maybe it was so high because I used a lot of activities.  I closed 
those and just have Alex.  The CPU is the same.  Is this normal for others on 
this list?  I remember in Snow Leopard it was more like, % %3 to %11. 

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Re: Remote Disk , on my desk top, what is it?

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On Jul 17, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> I think this is a vestige of the former "MobileMe".  Did you have a MobileMe 
> account on your other box?  MobileMe has now been retired.
> 
> Gordon
> 
Hi Gordon,

That's interesting.  I never had a Mobil Me account.  this is happening 
on a new install of Lyon that I just sent my data to by Merge Utility.  

It doesn't sound like anything Mini specific and not something I'll need.

So, I tried to eject it and it says eject but it stays there.  Nothing I tried 
in Finder preferences seemed to apply to it.  and I tried to open it and my 
finder became busy and stayed that way  until I relunched it.

One clarification.  I see it when I open a new Finder window but it is not on 
the desktop when that is the only thing open in Finder.

I feel less silly asking what might have been a simple question, now that a 
experience user was unfamiliar with it.

Just for the heck of it I unchecked Bonjour Computers in my sidebar but that 
did nothing.

Thanks for the info.

Eric Caron 

> On 17 Jul 2012, at 16:50, Eric Caron  wrote:
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> Hi listers,
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> On my new mid 2011 Mini I have something called Remote Disc on my desk top.  
> This doesn't exist on my Mac book. 
> 
>   Can someone tell me what Remote Disc is?  
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Remote Disk , on my desk top, what is it?

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Hi listers,


On my new mid 2011 Mini I have something called Remote Disc on my desk top.  
This doesn't exist on my Mac book. 

Can someone tell me what Remote Disc is?  

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Re: Mic recommendation for multi purposes

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Thanks Travis,

I had just assumed the Mini had the same set up as the mac book with 
the headphone and mic as one jack.  Hving the separated jacks will help as I 
will probably be able to use the Olympus mic I have sitting here.  

this mini is certainly a learning experience.

Any tips on doing the memory upgrade safely?  Assuming the ram I have is the 
correct ram I have 8 gigs sitting here I'd like to install.

Eric Caron 

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> As far as I know, all of the intel minimacs have microphone jacks and 
> earphone jacks on them, I have a ppc mini which has no microphone port, and 
> an intel mini which does.  Plugging a microphone into this jack always worked 
> just fine, until I broke the interconnect board while upgrading memory in the 
> machine.  But, instead of paying 30 bucks for another interconnect board, we 
> opted to purchase a 2 dollar usb phone/mike jack which works perfectly on the 
> mini in question, and allows us to use it just as if it was never broken. :) 
> And, the extra memory works too. *grin*
> The only thing not working on that mini now is the airport, as the antenna 
> came unplugged, and I can't for the life of me get it plugged in again.  But, 
> we solved that problem too, I just made the other mini share it's airport 
> connection via ethernet, then ran a cable from the broken mac to the working 
> one, and poof, both now browse the internet with no issues. :)
> 
> Don't know if this helps, but figured it'd be worth mentioning.  I don't know 
> if any of the minis have built-in internal mikes or not, I never tried 
> recording stuff w/o an external mike when I had my intel mini working 
> properly.
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Re: Can I clone my HD to a new computer?

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On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Just use the migration assistant and you'll be fine.  Either attach your 
> backup drive to the new machine and migrate from it, or else use a firewire 
> 1394B lead to do the same thing by booting your current machine into Target 
> mode.
> 
> Gordon

Thanks Gordon,

I followed the directions with a lot more confidence after reading your 
post.  I had to take the slow route using Migration Assistant over WiFi, but 
all seems to be going great.  I Guess I'll know for sure tomorrow as this will 
take about 10 hours! 

I appreciate this tips very much.  I'd be lost without this list.  With it I'm 
doing much much more then I ever did on my Windows machines and rather then 
fighting with the computer, I'm usually having fun. 

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Apple Keyboard can broken keys be repaired?

[Eric Caron]

Hello listers,

Using used equipment offers new challenges.  My new used mini arrived.  
The keyboard came in two additional pieces a T key and a F13 key flooding 
around.  Any chance of fitting these back in place?

The case seems a bit rough from the trip but so far it started up ok.  the 
Majic pad seems ok but I have not tried to use it yet. 

So can keys knocked off be replaced?  If so what is the trick?

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Install Adobe Flash player, how?

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Hi listers,

for some time now I'm asked to update Adobe Flash player.  I can't figure out 
how to do it. has anyone successfully navigated through this?  any tips?

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Can I clone my HD to a new computer?

[Eric Caron]

Hi listers,

I use ccc to keep a current copy of my hard disk.  When my new used mini 
arrives can I simply clone the disk over and have most things work the same?  
I'm trying to avoid having to dig up all the License keys for such programs as 
Amadeus Pro, assistive ware, VM Fusion and so on.  it would also be nice just 
to have my iTunes library ready to go.

is this a good shortcut or do I need to go one program at a time? 

I have never used migration assistant.  is that a better way to go?  

Experiences and tips appreciated.

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Re: Mic recommendation for multi purposes

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Hi David,

I'm writing from Vermont USA so that won't be a option.  Thanks for the 
tip though. 
I am glad for recommendations as otherwise I'm just guessing and likely to not 
purchase a decent mic.

Eric Caron  
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> If you live in the UK the Persula foundation - aka Tapesense were selling
> high quality mics  for discounted prices last year. You have to be
> registered with them as a visually impaired person.
> David Griffith
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> Subject: Mic recommendation for multi purposes
> 
> Dear listers,
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>   I'm wondering what would be a reasonably priced mic that could be
> used with both my mac book and mini.  It would be used for mainly two
> purposes.  Improving quality of podcast recordings and to use Skype on the
> mini.  I'm assuming perhaps incorrectly that the mini does not have a
> internal mic.  
> Is anyone having a good experience with a mic that they can share? 
> 
> I do have a iMic from Griffin Technology so I suppose I could try plugging
> in a mic to that andd seeing the results.  Currently the only external mic I
> have is the stereo mic that came with my Olympus recorder.
> 
> Tips are appreciated.
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