[MBZ] Parts Diagram

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Piles
Hello all,

Does anyone know where a parts diagram can be found fot the brake assemblies
on my 1985 300SD.
As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Thanks
Mike Piles






Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo?

2005-10-17 Thread Lee Levitt
Long gone.

A w210 turbodiesel at that price will not be around long.

Lee



On Sun Oct 16 12:29:47 PDT 2005, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Not sure how cheap this is, 1998, 155k, $14k
 http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=189172629
 
 How many electrical gremlins would be residing in such a car?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Daytime running lights on a 124?

2005-10-17 Thread Lee Levitt
I like to run DRLs on my cars too. On my past couple of Audis I 
jumpered the fog light circuit one way or another so that the fogs 
would come on either with parking lights or with the ignition 
(different cars).

The fogs lights on the W124 would make a pretty good ersatz DRL.

So now the question is...how do you get the fogs to operate 
independently of the low beams?

BTW, I haven't yet picked up my W124 so I'm still pretty much 
clueless...

Lee




On Sun Oct 16 15:26:01 PDT 2005, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 A ha, so it is.  Thanks for the head's up, but their procedure 
 seems
 awfully complex, relative to what I had in mind.  I might just 
 wire a
 simple 20 amp 4-pole relay in there, energized by some low 
 amperage
 keyed 12v source, and call it good.
 
 On 10/16/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I did notice in the w124 CD set there is an entire writeup 
 (82-0071)
 how to convert a w124 to day time running lights
 using mercedes OEM equipment.
 
 Casey
 Olympia, WA
 Biodiesel:
 '87 300TD intercooler (210k)
 '84 300D (204k)
 Gashuffer:
 '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
 
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Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
just wait till the truckers get pissed off and shut down their rigs. 
People will get a wakeup call then.


OK Don wrote:


It's got to be the middle men -- everything else is going down, while
Diesel is still rising.

Light, sweet crude for November delivery slipped 45 cents to settle
at $62.63 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Front-month
crude futures are down 10 percent from their record settlement price
of $69.47 on Sept. 1.
Heating oil futures declined by 4.69 cents to to $1.95 per gallon.

From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5612507/



On 10/16/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Prices for oil and distillates are not set by oil companies.

Prices are set by traders and such in New York City, London, Hong Kong,
etc. based on who knows what factors.  They are the ones you can blame.
They are making huge amounts of money off all of us.

Oil companies do make a lot more profits when the prices go up, you
might want to play the energy stock markets, but they do not set the
prices.  Intermediaries control a lot of wholesale pricing too, and in
Boston I recall some years ago that the downstream tank farmers were
screwing with prices to the retail guys, pissing them off to no end as
they had to catch the flack from customers, and they were not making any
more profit than they ever did (a few cents a gallon).  There was never
any local investigations of this behavior or politicians crying out,
though it was well known who the screwers were.

I saw in the paper (the Houston paper, covers the all bidness more
than most, given we are the center of it) that heating oil stocks were
quite adequate at this time in the NE, no less than last year, but quite
a bit more expensive (about a dollar a gallon I think).

So the question is why the price is high for heating oil and diesel, and
the traders are the ones who could answer that.  Or perhaps politicians
but I doubt that (some/many like higher prices to promote business or
social or political agendas or whatever, would never admit it, and that
right there just about covers the whole spectrum of political types).

Let us know what they say, if any of it makes any sense that is
understandable, even to them.

--R

Hendrik Riessen wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-17 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 11:47:32AM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote:
 I was offered it for parts. Pity, the car's body was apparently near mint
 before the flood. I want it for the 4spd transmission, but my wrench advised
 you have to drain the gearbox and if any water comes out, run away. 

Why? As long as the water hasn't been in there long enough to rust the
gears together, it should be fine. You'll need to flush it a few times to get
the mayonnaise out if the 240D transmissions use motor oil as lube. You might
have to get creative to get the thing clean, but the more clever you are 
the less it will cost you. You said there was a rod through the block before
the flood, so it most likely wasn't run under its own power with the gearbox
full of water.

If I told you the number of times the 74 cherokee had water flushed from the
diff from going through water, you'd be surprised. You'd be even more 
surprised that the axle lasted only 340k miles before being rebuilt. 

K



Re: [MBZ] Daytime running lights on a 124?

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Lee Levitt wrote:
I like to run DRLs on my cars too. On my past couple of Audis I 
jumpered the fog light circuit one way or another so that the fogs 
would come on either with parking lights or with the ignition 
(different cars).


The fogs lights on the W124 would make a pretty good ersatz DRL.

So now the question is...how do you get the fogs to operate 
independently of the low beams?


BTW, I haven't yet picked up my W124 so I'm still pretty much 
clueless...


All of my US delivered '87 Mercedes have fog lights that are independent 
of the low beams.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
and how the f are we going to do that without shutting America down?  IS  
NOT GONNA HAPPEN.  Semi-trucks are the backbone of the US.  Sorry,  
truckers are pissed, but we just keep passing Fuel Surcharge on to our  
customers.


On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:28:33 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



just wait till the truckers get pissed off and shut down their rigs.
People will get a wakeup call then.

OK Don wrote:





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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread redghost
May just be that the refining boys are making GAS because there was 
such an uproar about the rise in price and political pressure is being 
exerted to get more out there to drop the price.  If you are making 
petrol, maybe you are not making diesel for road use, just earmarking 
it for home heating?


On Sunday, October 16, 2005, at 07:49 AM, Kevin J. Slater wrote:


I scanned the referenced url story, but I didn't see anything directly
related to the price if diesel rising.

Usually, the reason that's given for the price of diesel rising in the
fall is the increase in use of home heating oil in the north east. (I
was just up at my sister's in Boston and I noticed the level in her 
tank

was about 2/5ths. I asked her about it and she noted that they hadn't
filled it for the winter yet, but I'll bet they've been thinking about 
it.)


George Gregory wrote:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5612507/



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Gas went from 2.39 to 2.29 today, diesel went from 2.94 to 2.99, WTF?
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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Frederick
The products produced from crude oil are separated into several classes 
by volatility -- gasoline is the lightest and road tar is the heaviest 
-- gasoline production these days is a bit more complicated than just 
collecting the light fraction, as was true 50 years ago (and up to 
about 1970, anyway).


Crude oil is made up of hundreds of compounds, ranging from one carbon 
(methane) to 50 carbons or so, mostly linear chains of carbon atoms, 
but quite a bit in circular forms (benzene based compounds) as well.  
The lower the carbon number, the more volatile the compound is.


Gasoline is composed of compounds with carbon number less than 12, with 
nearly all of it less than 8.  There will be some traces of high carbon 
number compounds -- this is what is left in a tank of fuel that has 
evaporated, along with the non-volatile detergents, fuel additives, etc.


# 2 Diesel fuel is C12-C32, with the largest amounts being C17 to C19 
or so, depending on grade.  #1 is lighter, kerosene is C8 to about C16, 
and there are other distillates available with other carbon number 
ranges (lighter fluid, for example).


Jet fuel has some components of the gasoline but is much heavier, and 
comes in two grades (JetA and JetB) -- JP4 is no longer available.  
That was wide cut gasoline -- gas with some kerosene in it.  Very 
explosive due to high vapor pressure.


What fuel costs is a variable kinda thing -- we are currently importing 
large amounts of gasoline from Europe to make up for lack of refining 
capacity in Louisiana, but I'm not sure of how much diesel is coming 
over.  Demand for diesel is very high -- home heating fuel is basically 
#2 diesel with red dye so you won't use it in the car without paying 
the fuel taxes (don't get caught if you do, the fine is MUCH more than 
paying the road taxeven today!).


The amount of diesel produced is going to be impacted (I hate that 
word!) by the stockpiling of winter heating fuel, the demand for jet 
fuel, the demand for truck and train use, and the willingness of people 
to fork over cash -- this is a free market economy, (another term I 
hate, since there is no such thing) -- you can charge anything you want 
and make any kind of profit you want unless someone stops you or 
refuses to pay, and it's illegal to stop someone making huge sums of 
money on necessites  The amount of gasoline being taken out will 
also have an effect, although it's pretty hard to change the carbon 
number of the components without expending too much energy.


The real solution to high fuel prices is to stop using it, but that is 
going to take undoing 60 years of full government support of 
profiteering in the oil, housing, and automotive market.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] wood: sun or water exposure.

2005-10-17 Thread Steve MacSween
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I told you the number of times the 74 cherokee had water flushed from the
 diff from going through water, you'd be surprised. You'd be even more
 surprised that the axle lasted only 340k miles before being rebuilt.

Diffs don't have synchros to get stuck and break

Mac




Re: [MBZ] MB Diesels - Where are They for sale?

2005-10-17 Thread dave walton
Checkout the 1999 E300. Six air bags, intercooler, traction control,
and enough acceleration to handle aggressive city driving. Also
handles Vegoil well.

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300


On 10/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy -
 My wife totalled her 97 Chrysler last Sunday AM and thankfully she's
 recovering. The concussion will take some time and may hide injuries that
 might surface later.  But it could have been much worse.

 As a result, she's become much more safety conscious.  So I think she'll
 want a MB if we can find the right one.  Unfortunately the older 190 is
 probably smaller than we'd want.  The newer C class might be too small also
 and it's not available in diesel - 2 strikes already.  Next is the W124 (?)
 early 90s diesel but so far the search has been unproductive.

 I've found one 93 300D with 80K for $9865 which sounds pretty good.  But I'd
 like to have more than one to select from.  Also, this one is in a northern
 state which makes me worry about salted roads and rust.

 I've checked the paper, eBay and numerous used car internet sites.  Also
 tried MB-USA and there was only one listed.  There's *got* to be more in the
 national MB inventory -  guess they don't care to include them all.

 Any suggestions?  Probably won't buy for another month or so ---

 TIA!!

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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[MBZ] 124 blower fan pricing

2005-10-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
My heater fan is suddenly squeaking something awful, all the time,
regardless of speed.  I'm going to tear in and replace it this week
before I go crazy from the sound.  I would try to lube it, or maybe
put in a used one, but I know from experience with the wiper assembly
(which has to come out on a 124 to get to the blower) that I don't
want to have to do this job more than once.  Rusty's web site shows
both Behr and ACM motor/fan assemblies.  I've never heard of ACM, but
it's half the price of the Behr unit.  Comments?

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread Steve MacSween
Already happened in parts of Canada, during the last fuel price 'spike'.
Were almost spontaneous and caught everyone by surprise.

Authorities can do little about it if 500 truckers park their rigs on a
major highway and just stand around.

In any case, the full effects have not yet made their way through the retail
and manufacturing chain. For example, here we are still eating local produce
but soon we'll be into winter imports. Retail stocks probably are just
catching up now.

Also consider the auto industry and its reliance on petrochemical-derived
products. The automakers are pretty much on their knees already, this is the
last thing they need - increased production costs coupled with sagging sales
of their laughably out-of-step product rollouts.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you will see.
 
 Luther Gulseth wrote:
 
 and how the f are we going to do that without shutting America down?  IS
 NOT GONNA HAPPEN.  Semi-trucks are the backbone of the US.  Sorry,
 truckers are pissed, but we just keep passing Fuel Surcharge on to our
 customers.
 
 On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:28:33 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 just wait till the truckers get pissed off and shut down their rigs.
 People will get a wakeup call then.
 
 OK Don wrote:
 
 
 
 
 




[MBZ] 30 Day Test ride

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Arnold
Interesting read in the November issue of Road  Track.

Seems M/B ran 3 E320CDI for 100,000 mile on  a test track.  They have
been recognized by the FIA with a host of record.

Average speed?  139.699 mph

They sat on the Rev Limiter at 146 mph

No breakdowns.

See more

http://www.dieselforum.org/inthenews/PRNews_050305.html


--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)



Re: [MBZ] 30 Day Test ride

2005-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Arnold wrote:
 
 They sat on the Rev Limiter at 146 mph
 
 No breakdowns.

That's because the electronics haven't had time to age. 
Try driving 100 miles a month for ten years.



Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80

2005-10-17 Thread BillR
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:04:24 -0700
From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Car listing, ignore if you are not looking
To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/104577070.html  --Car trailer with 
wench

Guess I'm getting to be a dirty old man.  That is the ugliest wench I have
ever seen.  I'd use my winch to haul her away.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
300SD  EM  265k / engine 200k - jury still out on #3 engine





Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread Christopher McCann
diesel jumped 50 cents a gallon overnight in KC -
$2.70 to $3.20...other places around were $3.25...my
cheap place (about 12 miles away) was $3.08. Reg.
Unleaded about $2.36.

VO at Costco still $2.90...$2.68 if in bulk...getting
a kit as soon as my other house sells. (two mortagages
suck).

Chris

--- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gas went from 2.39 to 2.29 today, diesel went from
 2.94 to 2.99, WTF?
 -- 
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   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this 
unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD left rear clunking

2005-10-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
While the wheel is turning, look for it wobbling and listen for noises.
With an out-of-round condition, the outer diameter of the tire will seem
to move in and out from any fixed position. Hold something close to the
outer edge while the tire is rotating. If the tire seems to move in and
out more than 1/8 inch, you have an out of round tire. You can also
check the wheel for bends the same way--just hold something near the rim
while it rotates. Noises could be caused by defective wheel bearings,
dragging/damaged brakes, etc.

Thomas E. Potter
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300CD left rear clunking


what would I be looking for in each instance?  This did suddenly appear,

and I know I didn't hit anything.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:29:33 -0500, Potter, Tom  E  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bent rim, tire out of round, wheel bearing, etc.!

 Block the front tires.

 Jack the left rear tire off the ground.

 While you watch the wheel, have someone start the engine with their
foot
 on the brake and place the vehicle in gear. (Assuming that you do not
 have a locking differential).

 Have them slowly release the brake, while you watch the wheel as it
 turns.

 When you are finished the examination, have the driver SLOWLY apply
the
 brake and place the transmission in park.

 This should help pinpoint the problem.

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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

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Re: [MBZ] 1967 200d

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sold for only $890 despite there being 26 bids! I guess the bid increment
was $1.00.


 On 10/15/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Point. Might have to buckle down and buy something newer...

 On 10/15/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sunil Hari wrote:
  
   anyone out there got a stick shift benz (or -gasp- a bmw or audi)
  they're
   willing to sell for a decent price?
 
  For manny benz, I think you will find most are pre-123 or W201 190E. If
  you
  find a manny 190D, you'll pay a lot more than you would for a 190E plus
  a good diesel engine. There's a manny 190D 2.2 for sale north of
 detroit,
  but the seller raises a few red flags, I'd want to go up there and look
  at it this afternoon, then head for an internet cafe to bid on it, pay
  the man and head for home. I believe the zip code is 48045 if you want
  to check an internet map. Sellers with hidden feedback scare me, and it
  looks like he'll get over $3k anyway. The last 5sp 2.2 I saw went 6k
  on ebay, but it seemed like a very nice car. I want to know why I don't
  see a cooling fan or radiator shroud on this car, should be an engine
  driven fan with electric clutch. I just don't think it's worth the
  $2600 current high bid.
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4581728144
 
  The auction in FT Wayne looks like it will need, at minimum, welding in
  some
  body panels, major brake work (possibly including running new steel
  lines),
  paint, and installing a water pump. Find out if $1 a mile delivery means
  $1 per mile from FT Wayne to Columbus or $1 per mile for the whole round
  trip.
  Look at it this way, they guy seems to have experience restoring old
 cars,
  and he's getting rid of it because he decided it's too much work.
  Does a med student want to do all that work, or buy something else?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Why does the steering wheel appear to have been tilted?

On 10/15/05, Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/220Sb-Finny-Finster-Finntail_W0QQitemZ4582692624QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 Albrecht's a first-class Mercedes restoration specialist. Description is
 written in classic Stachel style.

 Russ Maki
 Ixonia, Wis.

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb NEEDS this....

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
A car this age will go up in value and not down.
 Wanna bet?

 On 10/15/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rick Knoble wrote:
 
  A bargain 1973 Mercedes 450 SEL
  http://desmoines.craigslist.org/car/104366721.html

 Anybody need 116 euro headlamps?

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
That's priceless!

On 10/17/05, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Message: 4
 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:04:24 -0700
 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] Car listing, ignore if you are not looking
 To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/104577070.html --Car trailer with
 wench

 Guess I'm getting to be a dirty old man. That is the ugliest wench I have
 ever seen. I'd use my winch to haul her away.
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 300SD EM 265k / engine 200k - jury still out on #3 engine



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Re: [MBZ] Change in My ISP email software

2005-10-17 Thread Gabriel S.
If you would like an invite to Gmail just send me a direct email with
Gmail as the subject =)

On 10/16/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Massmann wrote:
  My ISP has upgraded their mail software, My mail is quarantined, unless
 the
  email address is on my accepted list. All my diesel mail has been
  quarantined. Looking over what I received from your diesel list, it
 looks
  like I will have to get the digest version or put every list member on
 my
  accepted list. What a pain. This is in an attempt to limit spam e'mails.
 Not
  quite sure what my next step will be.

 Your ISP clearly has no clue how to run reliable email. I'd get an
 account on some third-party email service. Gmail is pretty handy for
 list mail, but you might want to go with someone else for your private
 mail.

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Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread Russ Maki

andrew strasfogel wrote:


Why does the steering wheel appear to have been tilted?
 

Well, I know nozzing other than the seller's reputation (he runs a 
Mercedes shop called Brooklyn Motoren Werke), but it appears to me that 
the front wheels are canted to the left, as in a left turn. Why don't 
you ask him if you think the steering wheel isn't turned, um, 
commensurately.

Russ



On 10/15/05, Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/220Sb-Finny-Finster-Finntail_W0QQitemZ4582692624QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Albrecht's a first-class Mercedes restoration specialist. Description is
written in classic Stachel style.

Russ Maki
Ixonia, Wis.

   



 






Re: [MBZ] 124 blower fan pricing

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

My heater fan is suddenly squeaking something awful, all the time,
regardless of speed.  I'm going to tear in and replace it this week
before I go crazy from the sound.  I would try to lube it, or maybe
put in a used one, but I know from experience with the wiper assembly
(which has to come out on a 124 to get to the blower) that I don't
want to have to do this job more than once.  Rusty's web site shows
both Behr and ACM motor/fan assemblies.  I've never heard of ACM, but
it's half the price of the Behr unit.  Comments?


ACM is NOW a Mercedes supplier (but wasn't in the '80s) of original 
equipment parts. I have used several ACM aux. fans with NO problems and 
other have reported that the blowers are fine. Some modification to the 
blower mounts MAY be necessary (but that can be true with SOME Bosch 
blower motors too).


IF there is little or no play in the motor bushings, then lubrication 
with ATF can restore function - sometimes for years! Several of mine 
have lasted for more than 5 years without return of the noises. If there 
is considerable play in the bushing (if it has worn and become egg 
shaped) then replace the motor. Check that the fan brushes are not 
seriously worn (that has NEVER been a problem for me with 124/201 blower 
brushes).


Marshall
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'87 300TD 181Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 234kmi






Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo?

2005-10-17 Thread Lee Levitt
I just got a call from a used car dealer in Maryland who has a '99 
300DT. I don't know anything more about it except the asking price 
($16K) and the phone number (410.643.6573).

No affiliation, no knowledge, YMMV.

I wasn't looking to spend quite that much on my diesel (but I 
eventually will, right?) and the current owner of my W124 is 
receiving a check today for my car...

Anyone have a good clean pair of euro laps for my W124? I *just* 
missed a pair of 500E lamps on ebay.de. They went for 126 
euros...

Lee
'93 300 dt 179K (to be)


Re: [MBZ] Torsion Bar Bracket

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

frederick w moir wrote:

Hi, All.
	Question:- On my '87 190Dt the left front torsion bar bracket fractured, 
signalled by an odd and intermittent clunking up front. This car has been 
in an accident (front) and repaired, though the clunk started only 
recently. Is this a common event or is this more likely the result of the 
previous accident? Enquiring idiot want's to know.

TIA


Torsion bar failures are rare except from accident or occasionally after 
20 years from rust in earlier models. I've not had any problems in any 
of my 201s and reports of such failures (except for bushings requiring 
replacement - especially in early 124s) are very rare.


Marshall
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Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Why does the steering wheel appear to have been tilted?


Will be if the wheels aren't pointed straight ahead.

Marshall
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Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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[MBZ] 1990 300SEL

2005-10-17 Thread Donald Snook
Listers, 

 

Does anyone know anything about the 126 (SEL body) with the 3.0 six in
it.  I assume this is the same engine as the 124, but it is in a much
larger car.  Are these cars under powered?  I really like the 560SEL but
the mileage seems too low.  Any thoughts on the 3.0 gasser engine? 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump

2005-10-17 Thread Bob Rentfro

Okay. boys...this vacuum pump deal is getting odd.
All the other failures I've ever experienced has had oil spewing into the 
air cleaner housing. This failure is different.
The car will not shut off (I've checked the shutoff valve SAT...it holds 
vacuum like mad). There is NO oil getting into the air cleaner housing. The 
cruise still works. The HVAC is no wierder than usual. But there seems to be 
oil getting into the vacuum lines where oil hasn't been before.

When the main check valves in the vacuum pump fail, what happens?
Any ideas.

Bob Rentfro (if the hood release cable fails, I ain't goin' nowhere)
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ 





Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo?

2005-10-17 Thread John M McIntosh
126 euros? great price, I just paid $400 usa for a set of 500E lamps  
(new) from my dealer, special deal.


For the spare set I'm considering converting to HID by dropping in a  
set of HID projectors and clear lens.

See http://2phast.com/500e/default.htm
Unless of course my wife discovers them lurking somewhere and asks me  
to dispose of the clutter...


On 17-Oct-05, at 8:29 AM, Lee Levitt wrote:


Anyone have a good clean pair of euro laps for my W124? I *just*
missed a pair of 500E lamps on ebay.de. They went for 126
euros...



John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  150k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





Re: [MBZ] Parts Diagram

2005-10-17 Thread l02turner

Hi Mike,
You need to contact MB and ask if they have any Picture Parts Diagram 
Books left for your vehicle.  They used to give them away free for the 
asking, then started charging $5.  It's a small book (~5X8X3/4 thk) that 
shows exploded views of all the parts in your MB - from interior pieces to 
brakes and everything in-between.  It's the same views as are shown in the 
parts Department computer programs but without the part numbers -


The phone number is the 800-Mercedes or something like that.   The book I 
have for my 78 240D will have a brake diagram but I suspect the brakes are a 
lot different between our 2 cars -


Good luck -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo? (now HID lighting)

2005-10-17 Thread dave walton
The HID's take a few seconds to come up to full brightness. Mercedes
accommodates this delay by using them for the low beams and using
standard xenon's for the high beams and the HID's stay on when you
switch to high beams - or else everything would go dark for a few
seconds. Do the Mercedes low beams stay on when you switch to high
beams with the standard bulbs, or do the aftermarket conversion kits
deal with this?

We use HID dive lights and they are absolutely amazing! It would be
great to put them on the cars.

-Dave Walton

On 10/17/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 126 euros? great price, I just paid $400 usa for a set of 500E lamps
 (new) from my dealer, special deal.

 For the spare set I'm considering converting to HID by dropping in a
 set of HID projectors and clear lens.
 See http://2phast.com/500e/default.htm
 Unless of course my wife discovers them lurking somewhere and asks me
 to dispose of the clutter...

 On 17-Oct-05, at 8:29 AM, Lee Levitt wrote:

  Anyone have a good clean pair of euro laps for my W124? I *just*
  missed a pair of 500E lamps on ebay.de. They went for 126
  euros...
 

 John
 1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
 1990 300TDt  150k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)



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Re: [MBZ] 1990 300SEL

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Donald Snook wrote:
Listers, 

 


Does anyone know anything about the 126 (SEL body) with the 3.0 six in
it.  I assume this is the same engine as the 124, but it is in a much
larger car.  Are these cars under powered?  I really like the 560SEL but
the mileage seems too low.  Any thoughts on the 3.0 gasser engine? 


It's the same M103 engine used in the 300E. All the same strong and weak 
points apply. The car weighs about 450 lb more. Nice car, but hardly an 
excess of power.


Marshall
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Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-17 Thread tom savage

Christopher McCann wrote:

BUT Adolph Busch was the first in America to
manufacture diesel engines. Adolp and Rudolf (Diesel)
were friends and he came to the St. L world's fair and
attended an opening of Busch's engine factory...lots
of  interesting connections. First diesel engine in
commercial use in the US was at the Busch plant in St.
L.


...And, I believe that first diesel engine was a five cylinder, too!

Tom
WAY behind on his mail



Re: [MBZ] 300CD left rear clunking-update

2005-10-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
Removed the tire on Saturday and checked everything over.  I do have a dragging 
brake caliper, and that (with brake lines/pads/caliper rebuilds) will be my 
next project.  I installed the spare, drove to my local Wal-Mart, and had them 
balance the removed tire.  Was only 1/2 oz out of balance and seemed to be very 
close to true in round.  Drove with the spare up to 70mph, no vibration 0-70.  
Changed to original tire, drove up to 70mph, and no vibration.  Problem solved? 
 I don't think so, maybe just a temp/fluke problem..I'm waiting for it to 
happen again.  I HATE intermittent problems..

-Original Message-
From: Potter, Tom  E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 17, 2005 9:36 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300CD left rear clunking

While the wheel is turning, look for it wobbling and listen for noises.
With an out-of-round condition, the outer diameter of the tire will seem
to move in and out from any fixed position. Hold something close to the
outer edge while the tire is rotating. If the tire seems to move in and
out more than 1/8 inch, you have an out of round tire. You can also
check the wheel for bends the same way--just hold something near the rim
while it rotates. Noises could be caused by defective wheel bearings,
dragging/damaged brakes, etc.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536




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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-17 Thread tom savage

Fmiser wrote:


One of my favorite road sections is MO94 from Dutow (MO47) to about 4
miles west of Defiance - as long as there aren't too many slow-pokes...

Another decent, shorter section is Cnty W from Eureka to House
Springs.


You have excellent taste!  Most of my experience with the widing roads 
of Missouri wine country has been behind the wheel of a Brown, alas; I 
was probably one of those slow-pokes.  Sorry about that...




Or IL3 from Chester to Cairo - though I suppose that's a bit too far
from STL.


Well, IL 3 does run right up next to the river through East St Louis and 
the Sauget strip club district.  Very close to St Louis, but perhaps an 
area we would be wise to avoid.



IL100 from Alton to Grafton is also a pretty drive.


It is, and it goes on seemingly forever.  But there's just something 
about the straight and flat that leaves me wanting.


Tom
Still whittling down the choices for next weekend.



Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo? (now HID lighting)

2005-10-17 Thread John M McIntosh

Also see
http://kamran1860.tripod.com/n_xenon_e.htm
In this case he wired the high to a relay to provide power to the  
control unit.
The bi-xenon projector units have one HID bulb, and a solenoid   
refector cutoff that
moves depending on if you pick high or low beam. So the high beam  
just powers the

solenoid.

The high/low function for the H4 bulbs is controlled by the turn  
signal control stock.
So yes you either have high, or low. But for doing a HID replacement  
and being from
Canada I would consider a relay or two and providing daytime running  
light function (always on).



On 17-Oct-05, at 9:43 AM, dave walton wrote:


The HID's take a few seconds to come up to full brightness. Mercedes
accommodates this delay by using them for the low beams and using
standard xenon's for the high beams and the HID's stay on when you
switch to high beams - or else everything would go dark for a few
seconds. Do the Mercedes low beams stay on when you switch to high
beams with the standard bulbs, or do the aftermarket conversion kits
deal with this?

We use HID dive lights and they are absolutely amazing! It would be
great to put them on the cars.

-Dave Walton




John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  150k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





[MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

2005-10-17 Thread tom savage
Hello folks, the prodigal organizer returns.  Things have been pretty 
busy around here lately, but planning for next weekend has not fallen by 
the wayside.


Deneal Schilmeister and I met yesterday to discuss plans and a 
timetable.  Here's what we've got:


Meet at the museum at 10:00 or 11:00.  If people are coming from far 
away on Saturday morning, we'll probably need to meet later.  If most 
folks are nearby or arriving Friday night, we can meet earlier.  You'll 
have to let me know.  A group of car guys can easily spend several hours 
in the museum, and another hour or two in the parking lot BSing and 
checking out each other's rides.


From there, we can have lunch before heading out on our drive, if 
desired, or we can hit the road directly.  The museum is in 
Chesterfield, about 20-30 miles from downtown St Louis, and just a 
stone's throw from wineries and excellent driving roads.


One thought we had yesterday was to stop at a winery or two and perhaps 
take a tour, attend a tasting, and have dinner.  This will work 
especially well for folks who will need to hit the road early to get 
home, as we won't have to drive back in to the city.  If there's no 
consensus on this, it is no problem to stick with the original plan of 
having dinner on The Hill, St Louis' Little Italy.


Deneal is currently scouting out the best deal on hotels near the museum 
for those who will be staying overnight and we shold hear from him soon. 
 I'm finding out that Sunday evening and Monday is not the best time to 
research dinner options as most places are closed, but I promise to have 
much more to report tomorrow evening.


I'd appreciate an RSVP as either a definate or still tentative from 
interested parties so we know about what to expect and if we need 
reservations for dinner, and so on.  Please let me know at mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


We look forward to seeing you!

Tom



Re: [MBZ] Torsion Bar Bracket

2005-10-17 Thread Kevin J. Slater
I had a failure of one of my front swaybar brackets. Not sure that it
wasn't damage from the previous owner, but it finally failed when I owned
the car.

...Kevin

87 300TD 278k mi

Marshall Booth said:
 frederick w moir wrote:
 Hi, All.
  Question:- On my '87 190Dt the left front torsion bar bracket
 fractured,
 signalled by an odd and intermittent clunking up front. This car has
 been
 in an accident (front) and repaired, though the clunk started only
 recently. Is this a common event or is this more likely the result of
 the
 previous accident? Enquiring idiot want's to know.
 TIA

 Torsion bar failures are rare except from accident or occasionally after
 20 years from rust in earlier models. I've not had any problems in any
 of my 201s and reports of such failures (except for bushings requiring
 replacement - especially in early 124s) are very rare.

 Marshall
 --
 Marshall Booth Ph.D.
 Ass't Prof. (ret.)
 Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
 Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
 Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 300SEL

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

they are underpowered

Donald Snook wrote:

Listers, 

 


Does anyone know anything about the 126 (SEL body) with the 3.0 six in
it.  I assume this is the same engine as the 124, but it is in a much
larger car.  Are these cars under powered?  I really like the 560SEL but
the mileage seems too low.  Any thoughts on the 3.0 gasser engine? 

 


Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 


300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread l02turner

you wrote:Prices for oil and distillates are not set by oil companies.
Prices are set by traders and such in New York 

You're absolutely correct!  Just as the price of company stocks are set by 
rumor, supply  demand, fear and other emotions, fuel  gas prices are set 
by headlines, and the other things I mentioned.  The traders you mention are 
either trying to make money for themselves or save money for their 
employers - typically big oil who try to buy as low as possible  use 
futures options to accomplish that.  If the price is going up and they can 
buy options on X thousands barrels of oil, they'll lock in the price. 
Depending on what happens they either hold it and exercize the option or 
sell it for one more favorable.


Some people seem to think Billy-Bob down at the local Texaco gets bored and 
raises his prices - so he can make a few more pennies - it doesn't happen 
like that with gas, groceries, cars, electricity, etc.  Only the 
neighborhood lemonade stand does that - but only until Sally-Sue sees an 
opportunity to sell lower and opens her own lemonade stand.


At least that's how I understand it --
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It sucks that I have to be in florida that weekend.  I bet I get blown 
away by a hurricane.


tom savage wrote:

Hello folks, the prodigal organizer returns.  Things have been pretty 
busy around here lately, but planning for next weekend has not fallen by 
the wayside.


Deneal Schilmeister and I met yesterday to discuss plans and a 
timetable.  Here's what we've got:


Meet at the museum at 10:00 or 11:00.  If people are coming from far 
away on Saturday morning, we'll probably need to meet later.  If most 
folks are nearby or arriving Friday night, we can meet earlier.  You'll 
have to let me know.  A group of car guys can easily spend several hours 
in the museum, and another hour or two in the parking lot BSing and 
checking out each other's rides.


 From there, we can have lunch before heading out on our drive, if 
desired, or we can hit the road directly.  The museum is in 
Chesterfield, about 20-30 miles from downtown St Louis, and just a 
stone's throw from wineries and excellent driving roads.


One thought we had yesterday was to stop at a winery or two and perhaps 
take a tour, attend a tasting, and have dinner.  This will work 
especially well for folks who will need to hit the road early to get 
home, as we won't have to drive back in to the city.  If there's no 
consensus on this, it is no problem to stick with the original plan of 
having dinner on The Hill, St Louis' Little Italy.


Deneal is currently scouting out the best deal on hotels near the museum 
for those who will be staying overnight and we shold hear from him soon. 
  I'm finding out that Sunday evening and Monday is not the best time to 
research dinner options as most places are closed, but I promise to have 
much more to report tomorrow evening.


I'd appreciate an RSVP as either a definate or still tentative from 
interested parties so we know about what to expect and if we need 
reservations for dinner, and so on.  Please let me know at mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


We look forward to seeing you!

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

2005-10-17 Thread George Gregory
Here is the museum location:
http://www.kempautomuseum.org/

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=16955+chesterfield+airport+rd,+63005spn=0.015
438,0.040770iwloc=Ahl=en

I called the Hampton In right across the street from the museum.  They only
have smoking rooms left for this weekend. Rates start at @ $95.

The best choice, imo near the museum is the Comfort Inns  Suites; but I
could not get them to answer the phone.
Comfort Inn  Suites
http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?tuid=23623916ck=3024326655

On the internet, pricing is @$72, but I couldn't get them to answer the
phone when I tried to get a better rate.
 
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St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm

-Original Message-
On Behalf Of tom savage
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:08 PM
Hello folks, the prodigal organizer returns.  Things have been pretty 
busy around here lately, but planning for next weekend has not fallen by 
the wayside.

Deneal Schilmeister and I met yesterday to discuss plans and a 
timetable.  Here's what we've got:

Meet at the museum at 10:00 or 11:00.  If people are coming from far 
away on Saturday morning, we'll probably need to meet later.  If most 
folks are nearby or arriving Friday night, we can meet earlier.  You'll 
have to let me know.  A group of car guys can easily spend several hours 
in the museum, and another hour or two in the parking lot BSing and 
checking out each other's rides.

 From there, we can have lunch before heading out on our drive, if 
desired, or we can hit the road directly.  The museum is in 
Chesterfield, about 20-30 miles from downtown St Louis, and just a 
stone's throw from wineries and excellent driving roads.

One thought we had yesterday was to stop at a winery or two and perhaps 
take a tour, attend a tasting, and have dinner.  This will work 
especially well for folks who will need to hit the road early to get 
home, as we won't have to drive back in to the city.  If there's no 
consensus on this, it is no problem to stick with the original plan of 
having dinner on The Hill, St Louis' Little Italy.

Deneal is currently scouting out the best deal on hotels near the museum 
for those who will be staying overnight and we shold hear from him soon. 
  I'm finding out that Sunday evening and Monday is not the best time to 
research dinner options as most places are closed, but I promise to have 
much more to report tomorrow evening.

I'd appreciate an RSVP as either a definate or still tentative from 
interested parties so we know about what to expect and if we need 
reservations for dinner, and so on.  Please let me know at mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

We look forward to seeing you!

Tom





Re: [MBZ] 1990 300SEL

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

they are underpowered


No worse than a 300SDL! A little more HP and a few less lb-ft of torque.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

2005-10-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
if you do, my neighbor and I will bring 2 semi car haulers up and take care of 
your stock for Regina!


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To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

It sucks that I have to be in florida that weekend.  I bet I get blown 
away by a hurricane.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-17 Thread Christopher McCann
first ever was definitely a LARGE, 40:1 compression,
gasoline powered 1 cylinder. It blew up.

Chris

--- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Christopher McCann wrote:
  BUT Adolph Busch was the first in America to
  manufacture diesel engines. Adolp and Rudolf
 (Diesel)
  were friends and he came to the St. L world's fair
 and
  attended an opening of Busch's engine
 factory...lots
  of  interesting connections. First diesel engine
 in
  commercial use in the US was at the Busch plant in
 St.
  L.
 
 ...And, I believe that first diesel engine was a
 five cylinder, too!
 
 Tom
 WAY behind on his mail
 
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Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-17 Thread tom savage

Christopher McCann wrote:

first ever was definitely a LARGE, 40:1 compression,
gasoline powered 1 cylinder. It blew up.


I meant to say Busch's first diesel, though I've never had it confirmed. 
 Is that the one you're referring to?


See you soon.

Tom



Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-17 Thread Christopher McCann
From the pic I saw of Busch's first (the first
commercial diesel engine in America), it was also a
large one cylinder...could be wrong. I would be
totally schocked if it were 5 cylinder...have a bio on
Diesel...will check when I go home.

Chris

--- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Christopher McCann wrote:
  first ever was definitely a LARGE, 40:1
 compression,
  gasoline powered 1 cylinder. It blew up.
 
 I meant to say Busch's first diesel, though I've
 never had it confirmed. 
   Is that the one you're referring to?
 
 See you soon.
 
 Tom
 
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this 
unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger




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Re: [MBZ] St Louis get together next weekend

2005-10-17 Thread Christopher McCann
Tom,

I am tentative till Wednesday. My wife is due on the
29th. She is not too comfy with my being 4 hours away
if she goes into labor. She has a Dr. appointment on
Wed. and she will give us an idea of how far the baby
has dropped, any dilation, etc. If early delivery is
likely, I (DAMMIT!) can't come. If Dr. says still got
a while then I'll be there.

I'll let you know Wed.

AS for my opinion on the events:

Kemp
BS
lunch  BS
BS
drive
BS
winery tour (always fun)
BS
dinner wherever  BS
BS
home

Hope I can come.

Chris

--- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello folks, the prodigal organizer returns.  Things
 have been pretty 
 busy around here lately, but planning for next
 weekend has not fallen by 
 the wayside.
 
 Deneal Schilmeister and I met yesterday to discuss
 plans and a 
 timetable.  Here's what we've got:
 
 Meet at the museum at 10:00 or 11:00.  If people are
 coming from far 
 away on Saturday morning, we'll probably need to
 meet later.  If most 
 folks are nearby or arriving Friday night, we can
 meet earlier.  You'll 
 have to let me know.  A group of car guys can easily
 spend several hours 
 in the museum, and another hour or two in the
 parking lot BSing and 
 checking out each other's rides.
 
  From there, we can have lunch before heading out on
 our drive, if 
 desired, or we can hit the road directly.  The
 museum is in 
 Chesterfield, about 20-30 miles from downtown St
 Louis, and just a 
 stone's throw from wineries and excellent driving
 roads.
 
 One thought we had yesterday was to stop at a winery
 or two and perhaps 
 take a tour, attend a tasting, and have dinner. 
 This will work 
 especially well for folks who will need to hit the
 road early to get 
 home, as we won't have to drive back in to the city.
  If there's no 
 consensus on this, it is no problem to stick with
 the original plan of 
 having dinner on The Hill, St Louis' Little Italy.
 
 Deneal is currently scouting out the best deal on
 hotels near the museum 
 for those who will be staying overnight and we shold
 hear from him soon. 
   I'm finding out that Sunday evening and Monday is
 not the best time to 
 research dinner options as most places are closed,
 but I promise to have 
 much more to report tomorrow evening.
 
 I'd appreciate an RSVP as either a definate or
 still tentative from 
 interested parties so we know about what to expect
 and if we need 
 reservations for dinner, and so on.  Please let me
 know at mailto: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 We look forward to seeing you!
 
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-1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf 
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-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
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Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
I meant tilted forward off the vertical, not twisted.

DUH
On 10/17/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  Why does the steering wheel appear to have been tilted?

 Will be if the wheels aren't pointed straight ahead.

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Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Zedic
I think it's the fish-eye lens he used to take the shot. Looks like his 
hand on the left side of the photo??


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D



[MBZ] Would you like some car with your rust? Oogy 300TD but seller appears to be honest

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
*http://tinyurl.com/awqwq*


Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks, Jeff. I couldn't make myself believe that the old finnies had tilt
SWs!

On 10/17/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it's the fish-eye lens he used to take the shot. Looks like his
 hand on the left side of the photo??

 Jeff Zedic
 Toronto
 87 300TD
 83 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 90 300SEL M103 engine

2005-10-17 Thread Donald Snook
Marshall wrote:

 

It's the same M103 engine used in the 300E. All the same strong and
weak 

points apply. The car weighs about 450 lb more. Nice car, but hardly an 

excess of power.

 

I am unfamiliar with the M103 engine, except that I know MB made a ton
of them and put them in a ton of 124s.  So, what are the strong and weak
points about the engine.  I did some reading and I saw several posts
from people talking about needing valve jobs.  Do these engine require
major engine work. Is it the valve stem seals?  

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] Parts Diagram

2005-10-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:40:15 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 You need to contact MB and ask if they have any Picture Parts Diagram 
 Books left for your vehicle.  They used to give them away free for the 
 asking, then started charging $5.  It's a small book (~5X8X3/4 thk)
 that  shows exploded views of all the parts in your MB - from interior
 pieces to  brakes and everything in-between.  It's the same views as are
 shown in the  parts Department computer programs but without the part
 numbers -
 
 The phone number is the 800-Mercedes or something like that.   The book
 I  have for my 78 240D will have a brake diagram but I suspect the
 brakes are a  lot different between our 2 cars -

You might be able to get one off eBay, too.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] something fishy with this

2005-10-17 Thread redghost

ENRON and Kalifornia power market games springs to mind.


On Sunday, October 16, 2005, at 01:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


Prices for oil and distillates are not set by oil companies.

Prices are set by traders and such in New York City, London, Hong Kong,
etc. based on who knows what factors.  They are the ones you can blame.
They are making huge amounts of money off all of us.

Oil companies do make a lot more profits when the prices go up, you
might want to play the energy stock markets, but they do not set the
prices.  Intermediaries control a lot of wholesale pricing too, and in
Boston I recall some years ago that the downstream tank farmers were
screwing with prices to the retail guys, pissing them off to no end as
they had to catch the flack from customers, and they were not making 
any

more profit than they ever did (a few cents a gallon).  There was never
any local investigations of this behavior or politicians crying out,
though it was well known who the screwers were.

I saw in the paper (the Houston paper, covers the all bidness more
than most, given we are the center of it) that heating oil stocks were
quite adequate at this time in the NE, no less than last year, but 
quite

a bit more expensive (about a dollar a gallon I think).

So the question is why the price is high for heating oil and diesel, 
and

the traders are the ones who could answer that.  Or perhaps politicians
but I doubt that (some/many like higher prices to promote business or
social or political agendas or whatever, would never admit it, and that
right there just about covers the whole spectrum of political types).

Let us know what they say, if any of it makes any sense that is
understandable, even to them.

--R

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Just an honest bunch of people trying to make a living. I heard 
things are
so tough in the oil business that some are having to go into politics 
just

to feed their families.
Ahh well, you will just have to increase your prices for parts.
Either that or get one of the 240D's up and running and put the big 
V8's out

to pasture.

Hendrik
working towards getting the lawn mower self-propelled(the steering 
will be

the hard part)

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] something fishy with this





Gas went from 2.39 to 2.29 today, diesel went from 2.94 to 2.99, WTF?
--
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85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




[MBZ] Xenon tales

2005-10-17 Thread RELNGSON
The HID's take a few seconds to come up to full brightness. Mercedes 
accommodates this delay by using them for the low beams and using
 standard xenon's for the high beams and the HID's stay on when you switch 
to high beams

The earlier low-beam-only Xenons use an 55W H-7 bulb for high beam with a 
separate reflector and lens. MY '01 C320 came with the low-only xenons which I 
converted to Bi-Xenon (complete replacement of the light units and huge 
improvement $$$) and the H-7 high beam is retained, presumably for high beam 
flashing 
which Xenons cannot do. I replaced the stock 55W H-7 with 70W bulbs which made 
a noticeable difference. I also tried a pair of 55W SilverStars and removed 
them since the 70W bulbs were superior.

Roger Ellingson/Seattle


Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump

2005-10-17 Thread Van Cleve
I have had those little suckers fail (no pun intended) but I cant say I 
remember just what happened besides the pump wouldn't work. I took a good 
valve out of another pump and it worked fine.  I do remember those little 
valves were spendy, there easy enough to check just make sure you putem 
back,  the way they came out :-)



Regards   Steve Van Cleve
Marrowstone Isl Wa

85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K
79 240D 5spd  fresh tranny transplan
82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon
94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K


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Okay. boys...this vacuum pump deal is getting odd.
All the other failures I've ever experienced has had oil spewing into the 
air cleaner housing. This failure is different.
The car will not shut off (I've checked the shutoff valve SAT...it holds 
vacuum like mad). There is NO oil getting into the air cleaner housing. The 
cruise still works. The HVAC is no wierder than usual. But there seems to 
be oil getting into the vacuum lines where oil hasn't been before.

When the main check valves in the vacuum pump fail, what happens?
Any ideas.

Bob Rentfro (if the hood release cable fails, I ain't goin' nowhere)
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield Park, AZ







Re: [MBZ] Albrecht Stachel selling a finnie

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Thanks, Jeff. I couldn't make myself believe that the old finnies had tilt
SWs!


The steering wheels on W110/111s were quite large and the columns rigid 
(but slightly cocked to one side)!


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-17 Thread redghost
Not so sure Bill, I hauled butt out of Whorelando after Charlie last 
summer.  Figure I can get your ride there in five days


Wonder how I can spread the FSM message.  Pirate wear?

On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 05:18 AM, BillR wrote:


  If anybody wants me to check these out, I am available.  I can
probably deliver them to you as well


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

You could also do a US tour promoting the interests of the FSM.  I 
might be

looking for another car, but Seattle is probably too far to think of
delivery to Jax.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
300SD  EM  265k / engine 200k - jury still out on #3 engine



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Re: [MBZ] 90 300SEL M103 engine

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Donald Snook wrote:


I am unfamiliar with the M103 engine, except that I know MB made a ton
of them and put them in a ton of 124s.  So, what are the strong and weak
points about the engine.  I did some reading and I saw several posts
from people talking about needing valve jobs.  Do these engine require
major engine work. Is it the valve stem seals?  


While I owned a 300E for a couple of years, I never drove or maintained 
it. All I could do is repeat what I've been told. You need to talk with 
mechanics that have repaired hundreds of them. The E300 won more awards 
than any production sedan Mercedes ever manufactured. It (with either a 
M103 or 104 engine) is a superb car! The 104 is a more refined engine - 
more economical, more powerful, more complicated - more to go wrong.


There were valve guide problems (very rapid wear) with the early ('86 
and maybe '87) M103s (most all replaced under warranty) some head gasket 
leaks (more in M104s) and it is usual for ALL of the Mercedes gasoline 
engines to require top end work by the time the engine reaches 
200-250kmi. That's what I used to call a valve job (valves, guides, 
seals, maybe even seats) back when I worked on gasoline engines. The 
bottom end (crank, mains, rods, pistons, cylinder) of the M103 and 104 
engines are almost as robust as the diesels (except the flawed OM603,97 
diesels). Both the 103 and 104 engines are VERY well designed engines 
that give excellent economy, power and longevity when compared to other 
engines designed at the same time. Many newer engines are better in many 
respects.


Marshall
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Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Xenon tales

2005-10-17 Thread John M McIntosh
I've 65w H7 osram bulbs in my 500SEL. Are those really 70w or 65w?  
The 65w H7 osrams are actually h9 bulbs on h7 base.

Very bright, h9 was going to be best lighting, then xenon came along.

Good point about flashing, I wonder what I could do to provide that  
feature. Normally on the H4 setup that

lights up both the high and low part of the H4.

On 17-Oct-05, at 2:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The HID's take a few seconds to come up to full brightness. Mercedes
accommodates this delay by using them for the low beams and using

standard xenon's for the high beams and the HID's stay on when you  
switch



to high beams

The earlier low-beam-only Xenons use an 55W H-7 bulb for high beam  
with a
separate reflector and lens. MY '01 C320 came with the low-only  
xenons which I
converted to Bi-Xenon (complete replacement of the light units and  
huge
improvement $$$) and the H-7 high beam is retained, presumably for  
high beam flashing
which Xenons cannot do. I replaced the stock 55W H-7 with 70W bulbs  
which made
a noticeable difference. I also tried a pair of 55W SilverStars and  
removed

them since the 70W bulbs were superior.

Roger Ellingson/Seattle


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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[MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-17 Thread Ron Dwelle
Just got a Harbor Freight sales flyer--they have a Topsider knock-off 
(or maybe it's a real Topsider) for $24.99. Looks identical to a real 
Topsider.


Anyone have one of these? Is it worth the $20-less than a real Topsider?

Thanks,
Ron Dwelle




Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-17 Thread Rick Knoble

 Wonder how I can spread the FSM message.  Pirate wear?

Factory Service Manual???
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD



Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
I'm too old school to even contemplate devices that purport to suck the
oil out. Draining it is the only natural way.


 On 10/17/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just got a Harbor Freight sales flyer--they have a Topsider knock-off
 (or maybe it's a real Topsider) for $24.99. Looks identical to a real
 Topsider.

 Anyone have one of these? Is it worth the $20-less than a real Topsider?

 Thanks,
 Ron Dwelle


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Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-17 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
 I'm too old school to even contemplate devices that purport to suck the
 oil out. Draining it is the only natural way.

But sucking has been the official way for at least 20 years, especially
on the cars with sound encapsulation panels. 
There is one vehicle I'm glad I've been draining. A couple of years ago I
drained a 7.3L powerstroke and found a piston cooling nozzle in the drain
pan. I'd like to know what Ford paid for labor to replace that too cheap
little item. They had to pull the engine and pull the pan, then a different
dealer had to pull the engine and replace the pan that was damaged in the
first repair attempt. I even pointed out the prybar dent in the sealing
surface of the pan while they had the engine out, so I was rather upset when
I found out he put the pan back on. Nearly new $35k trucks shouldn't leave
black puddles on the floor.



Re: [MBZ] 90 300SEL M103 engine

2005-10-17 Thread John M McIntosh
Having owned a 89 300TE I can say it suffered from hydraulic lifter  
noise at 200K miles.
However to fix that it required new lifers and everything in the  
valve train replaced because
the replacement lifters were harder metal and I was told it would  
damage the camshaft.
Replacement Camshaft was harder so all the valves needed to be  
replace too.   However given you
had to do a valve job it was timely to replace all of that, I choose  
to sell said car and buy the 83 300TDt,
(plus the tranny was taking time and clunking into reverse (rebuild  
time?))


I'll also note it takes a bit of care to get the MAF setup right to  
give best economy, I suffered from
poor mpg over the life of the vehicle as compared to expectations.  
epa 17 city, 21 highway, 19 combined
 saw on average over last two years 18.6.  Other vehicles in the  
stable see epa est highway number on average.


On 17-Oct-05, at 2:36 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


There were valve guide problems (very rapid wear) with the early ('86
and maybe '87) M103s (most all replaced under warranty) some head  
gasket

leaks (more in M104s) and it is usual for ALL of the Mercedes gasoline
engines to require top end work by the time the engine reaches
200-250kmi. That's what I used to call a valve job (valves, guides,
seals, maybe even seats) back when I worked on gasoline engines.


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





[MBZ] car radio choices...

2005-10-17 Thread John M McIntosh
So in the 1990 (or what ever) I have a becker mexico 2000 (BE1430)  
with active bass, it of course is setup for europe radio station  
frequencies so doing scan or auto does not pickup any stations  
because of the differences between agreed upon frequencies between  
the north america, and europe. I checked with Becker and this radio  
does not allow you to reconfigure those settings. The shortware/ 
longwave also doesn't pickup stations, I believe the anntenna is ok,  
I did clean with electrical cleaner every contact and cable I could  
find, and my wife says the am/fm reception is iffy.


I was looking at some used becker 1432's but I tripped over a note  
saying the change over requires some power wiring changes. Mind I'll  
check with Becker in the morning to see if it's plug and play.


So what should I replace it with? Keeping in mind I want something  
plain and easy to deal with because I've workable beckers in the  
other two cars.



John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-17 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I'm too old school to even contemplate devices that purport to suck the
oil out. Draining it is the only natural way.



Mercedes engine sumps DESIGNED after the late '60s were intended to be 
emptied by suction. More oil can be removed from the engine using 
suction, than by opening the drain plug! You can use the plug, but the 
results will be less effective.


Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[MBZ] 124 wagon

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-6-cyl-TD-87-Mercedes-300-TD-Wagon-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4583384257QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] 2.5 turbo

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1993-300d-Fuel-Saver-Mint-condition_W0QQitemZ4583363348QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] W126 Sunroof Reply

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Arnold
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W-126 Sunroof Misery
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A bit expensive on the lift angles (you are paying list price -- check
Them out on Mercedesshop or from Rusty at BuyMBParts, as they will be 
Cheaper).  Takes about 3 hours to do this job if you know what you are
doing.

And yes, the lift angles break readily, more so if no one has 
Lubricated the sunroof slides on a regular basis.

Peter

_SNIP__

Thanks for the valued input.  
I did check with Rusty to assure price and need were real.  After
getting a quote from a trusted Indy, I will not screw him out of his
deserved 25% mark-up.


--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)



[MBZ] seller on crack

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-83-Mercedes-Benz-240D-Light-Blue-4-cyl-Automatic-Low-mi_W0QQitemZ4583290892QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] 300SD parts/project

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-SD-1984-Blue-300SD-Parts-car-or-restorer_W0QQitemZ4583281750QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



[MBZ] 300SDL in canada

2005-10-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


http://cgi.ebay.ca/very-reliable-diesel-collectors-Mercedes_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4583238132QQrdZ1
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] Parts Diagram

2005-10-17 Thread OK Don
The Performance Parts Catalog has some nice drawings as well, and it's
free. however, it's not likely to arrive before you need it.

On 10/17/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:40:15 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Mike,
  You need to contact MB and ask if they have any Picture Parts Diagram
  Books left for your vehicle.  They used to give them away free for the
  asking, then started charging $5.  It's a small book (~5X8X3/4 thk)
  that  shows exploded views of all the parts in your MB - from interior
  pieces to  brakes and everything in-between.  It's the same views as are
  shown in the  parts Department computer programs but without the part
  numbers -
 
  The phone number is the 800-Mercedes or something like that.   The book
  I  have for my 78 240D will have a brake diagram but I suspect the
  brakes are a  lot different between our 2 cars -

 You might be able to get one off eBay, too.


 Craig

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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-17 Thread OK Don
Flying Spaghetti Monster
http://www.venganza.org/

On 10/17/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wonder how I can spread the FSM message.  Pirate wear?

 Factory Service Manual???
 Rick Knoble
 1985 300 CD

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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/



Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump

2005-10-17 Thread B Dike
Bob,

It sounds like the one or both check valves have been
flipped around or failed.  One admits air in from the
brake booster, the other exits it out to the air
cleaner.  Easy to test...if you don't mind a little
taste of M1...

Cheers,

Bruce

--- Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay. boys...this vacuum pump deal is getting odd.
 All the other failures I've ever experienced has had
 oil spewing into the 
 air cleaner housing. This failure is different.
 The car will not shut off (I've checked the shutoff
 valve SAT...it holds 
 vacuum like mad). There is NO oil getting into the
 air cleaner housing. The 
 cruise still works. The HVAC is no wierder than
 usual. But there seems to be 
 oil getting into the vacuum lines where oil hasn't
 been before.
 When the main check valves in the vacuum pump fail,
 what happens?
 Any ideas.
 
 Bob Rentfro (if the hood release cable fails, I
 ain't goin' nowhere)
 '77 300D 141K
 Litchfield Park, AZ 
 
 
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Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 194kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'




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