Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic

2007-08-04 Thread Sunil Hari
Me, baby, me!  I got my kit yesterday with the hat, stress reliever, and
rebate form.  The oil is going into my Civic, my girl's Cherokee (stick
shift!) and any friends who need oil changes.

On 8/4/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does your lawn mower need that much Pennzoil?

 On 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All,
 
  About two weeks ago someone on this list suggested going to the web site
  below for some free oil and I did so.  Today I got my kit with a $60
  rebate
  towards the purchase of one synthetic Pennzoil oil change, or a 6 pack
 of
  their
  oil.  I also got a Pennzoil hat and 8 $10 coupons for
 additional  rebates.
 
  _www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp_
  (http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp)This is a joint offer
 with
  Car and Driver pushing the good driver
  policy and  Pennzoil pushing the oil..
 
  It appears the web site is still up and after you fill out the form they
  will offer you a chance to get 12 issues of Road and Track for 5
  bucks!  Or
  Cycle magazine.
 
  Thanks ??, I can't find your old email anywhere!
 
  Jim  Friesen
  Phoenix AZ
  79 300SD, 267 K miles
  98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
 
 
 
 
  ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new
 AOL
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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread Robert Bigham

Bilstein only.  Accept no substitute.  A lot like Hewlett-Packard
printers. 

There are standard or comfort Bilstein shocks and heavy duty or
for vehicles with stiffer suspensions for countries with bad roads 
Bilstein shocks.  There are MBZ part numbers for both kinds.

At least one supplier (www.mercedessource.com) says they 
offer both kinds.  I have no doubt that Rusty can do the same
or similar.  .

Get the comfort shocks if you want a ride like original - heavy 
duty shocks tend to ride like a jolt wagon.  It took me more 
than a few years to learn that, and much dissatisfaction with 
several different kinds of new heavy duty shocks on several 
different kinds of cars.  Heavy duty shocks are for somebody 
besides me. 

I finally figured it out on the Benz, and new comfort Bilsteins 
work wonders on the ride if your old shocks are kaput.  Duh !

BTW, there is a way to tell if the Benzes say your shocks are 
good or no good - it's in Service Manual.   You have to have 
the shock off the car to check it.  It's OK (again by the Benzes) 
to replace Bilstein shocks by the one. Don't know about mixing
brands on the same axle.   

Off topic of shocks - can anyone tell me what the approved 
proportions of Zerex G 05 and water are, according to the 
Benzes?  My manuals are much too old to speak to that. I 
have two new gallons just waiting to be mixed in the approved 
proportions.  Thanks. 
--
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 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:00:52 -0400
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 I wonder which Bilstein shocks Rusty sends if you don't specify comfort
or 
 heavy duty?  I replaced the rear shocks (from Rusty) on the '83 240D and
it 
 seems to ride a lot rougher than the '83 300D.  Do 240Ds usually ride 
 rougher than 300Ds?  The 240D was my wifes car and I've driven it very 
 little so I don't remember if it rode as rough when I occasionally drove
her 
 someplace.
 Gerry Archer
 '83 300D and 240D

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 - Original Message - 
 From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shocking


  Here you go:
  1.) Bilsteins.  Don't consider anything else on a Benz
  2.) Comfort.  Heavy duty are valved very, very hard,
  and you'll feel every little pebble in the road with
  them.  If you want a luxury car feel to your MB,
  you'll get it with the comforts.  Heavy dutys make you
  feel like you're offroading in the parking lot.
  Dan

  --- David Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gents,
I am in need of new shocks. My questions:
Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference?
Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels
  for $20 - suggestions?
Any other thoughts on the matter would be much
  appreciated.
Thanks!
David
1985 380 SL (80k)




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Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Man, that gives me flashbacks of the statistics class I took to get my
bachelor's degree recently. Is the bathtub curve the bell curve?

Brian
You've just read about all I remember of statistics

Tom wrote:
Some items like light bulbs follow a very predictable curve. Take a 1000
hour light bulb, for example. You'll have a few fail early on, much fewer
fail over time but then when your 1000 hour light bulbs start reaching 1000
hours, they start dropping out fast.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Timely subject for us as well. The Hotpoint appliances in our new (c.
15 yr. old) house are all pretty poor. The washer has this mildewy
smell that I have not been able to irradicate despite thorough
cleaning with straight bleach.

We've been tempted by some craigslist stackable full-sized units,
which would of course have a front-loading washer.

I've been wondering how the thing can get the same amount of clothes
clean with less water, and wondering if the door on these designs will
eventually leak.

Brian

On 8/3/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front
 loading washing machine last month.

 What brand/model did you go with?  I'll be in the market for one very soon
 since we're buying a house.  My parents have a Maytag Neptune that seems to
 be working well for the past 5 years.  The laundromat here at the apartment
 complex just installed new Maytag commercial HE front loaders that don't
 seem to be getting clothes too clean at all.  I think that our cheap top
 loader did a better job.

 Kevin in Portland, OR
 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday

2007-08-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
Really? You mean it is different from most other women's sports which
are about 35% less exciting than men's sports? (unless you count
women's volleyball - beach or indoors - either way, it's a spectacle
with the former bordering on the pornographic).

Brian

On 8/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well, i know none of you care, but

 the USL W-league is the highest level of women's soccer in north america.
 if you live in the rochester area and are looking for a nice family event
 for this sunday, go to this game.  if you are disillusioned by big time
 sports, got to this game.

 i'm sure the rest of you will be watching it this sunday on FSC

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 [image: Silverbacks Registered Logo]   *SILVERBACKS WOMEN CRUISE TO
 W-LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH WITH 4-1 WIN*
 * SILVERBACKS WOMEN LIVE ON FOX SOCCER CHANNEL ON SUNDAY AT 5:30 PM
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 The *Atlanta Silverbacks Women* continued their dominance of the
 *2007 W-League playoffs* tonight when they beat the *Seattle Sounders
 4-1*in the semi-finals of the
 * W-League Championship series* in Rochester, NY. The Silverbacks will play
 in their first W-League Championship on *Sunday evening* at *5:30 pm* - *the
 match will be broadcast live on the Fox Soccer Channel*. The 'Backs will
 take on the winner of tonight's other semi-final between the Rochester
 Rhinos and the Washington Freedom.
   The Sounders took an early lead in just the sixth minute, putting
 the Silverbacks in an unfamiliar playoff position after having won their
 first two matches 4-0 and 5-2. The 'Backs returned to their scoring ways at
 the close of the first half when *Krista Davey* sent a cross into the box
 and *Christine Latham* finished a diving header to even the score in the
 44th minute.
  Atlanta did not let the halftime break slow their offensive attacks
 and the Silverbacks took the lead in the 46th minute when *Monica Buff* laid
 the ball back to *Tara Minnax* who finished the go-ahead goal. Buff finished
 a goal of her in the 68th minute when she sent in a 35-yard shot that proved
 too much for the keeper to handle. The Silverbacks finished their final goal
 of the night in the 80th minute when Minnax chipped the ball into *Sarah
 Steinmann* who easily laid the ball in from inside the 18-yard box.
 The Silverbacks launched their W-League franchise just three years
 ago - the team made its postseason debut last weekend in Minnesota and has
 dominated every match along the way, outscoring their opponents 13-3. The
 Silverbacks will fight for the W-League title on Sunday afternoon at PAETEC
 PARK at 5:30 pm against either the Rochester Rhinos or the Washington
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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread Kevin Kraly
I still have the lower ball joints too,  The upper control arm is the  one 
that goes bad.

When I stopped by MBI Motors, the largest indy dealing with Mercedes around 
here, one of the mechs told me that the lower ball joints tend to go out 
before the uppers since they are more susceptible to having torn boots.  Oil 
gets out, water gets in, then the rust and the groaning starts (like mine's 
doing on the passenger's side right now).  The UCA bushings weren't brought 
up, but I'm going to have them inspect all of the front end components along 
with the rotors and wheel bearings while it's on the rack since it must all 
be removed to get the ball joint off.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


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 The car still does not bottom out or bang down after going over a speed  hump
 at 30  MPH!

The W116 is the ultimate car for suckering a tailgater over a rough railroad
crossing at 60mph. W126 may be as good, but I haven't owned one of those. 
It's not a stunt you want to pull in a W201.034, mine rides like a buckboard
compared to my 300SD. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Zoltan Finks wrote:
 
 Man, that gives me flashbacks of the statistics class I took to get my
 bachelor's degree recently. Is the bathtub curve the bell curve?

More like the antithesis of the bell curve. A 'normal distribution' bell
curve peaks at the mean and drops off on both sides. The 'bathtub' as he
describes it, has peaks on both ends and a wide trough in the middle. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Craig McCluskey wrote:
 
  My wife parked next to it today at lunch, and complemented me on my
  good deal. Hoo-hah!  Let me write that down...
 
 Indeed! It's nice that she's on your side.
 

Was it Jill whose husband dubbed her She Who Must Be Annoyed, or was
that some other WA resident, like maybe Casey's wife?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread The Wakin's
Buy LG from Home Depot (or buy.com believe it or not)

We just bought a pair to replace a 10 year old top load/dryer, and my wife 
researched every make and model before she decided on the LG. They have the 
best customer satisfaction and I must say, we are very impressed with them. 
Not only do they save water, they save detergent, and do a better job.

We paid about $50 a month for water, and the washer was probably half that. 
The front load uses 1/3 the water of top load, so 50/2 = $25, 25/3 = $8.33, 
or a savings of $16.67 each month. That over the next 10 years is over 
$2,000, and that is more then we paid for the washer and dryer. Our bills 
come every three months, so I will soon know if these numbers work out.

Mercedes Content and added bonus - the washer and dryer cost more then at 
least 3 Mercedes I have bought, so I have leverage next time I see a deal.

Dave W

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)


I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front
 loading washing machine last month.

 What brand/model did you go with?  I'll be in the market for one very soon
 since we're buying a house.  My parents have a Maytag Neptune that seems 
 to
 be working well for the past 5 years.  The laundromat here at the 
 apartment
 complex just installed new Maytag commercial HE front loaders that don't
 seem to be getting clothes too clean at all.  I think that our cheap top
 loader did a better job.

 Kevin in Portland, OR
 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread BillR
Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
bounds for my needs.
Thanks - BillR 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

Bill,
  It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives nice,
brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a week
and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel tank
needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel filter.
That's about what i know about it.

I am in Montour Falls, NY.

Mike

 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her 
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles 
 for $1000 cash.

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic

2007-08-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Yous guys musta inundated them 'cause they are telling me the Penzoil
offer's full.
I reckon you snooze, you loose.

Bob R.
The Man With the Mushy Brain.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic

Me, baby, me!  I got my kit yesterday with the hat, stress reliever, and
rebate form.  The oil is going into my Civic, my girl's Cherokee (stick
shift!) and any friends who need oil changes.

On 8/4/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does your lawn mower need that much Pennzoil?

 On 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All,
 
  About two weeks ago someone on this list suggested going to the web site
  below for some free oil and I did so.  Today I got my kit with a $60
  rebate
  towards the purchase of one synthetic Pennzoil oil change, or a 6 pack
 of
  their
  oil.  I also got a Pennzoil hat and 8 $10 coupons for
 additional  rebates.
 
  _www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp_
  (http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp)This is a joint offer
 with
  Car and Driver pushing the good driver
  policy and  Pennzoil pushing the oil..
 
  It appears the web site is still up and after you fill out the form they
  will offer you a chance to get 12 issues of Road and Track for 5
  bucks!  Or
  Cycle magazine.
 
  Thanks ??, I can't find your old email anywhere!
 
  Jim  Friesen
  Phoenix AZ
  79 300SD, 267 K miles
  98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Sunny Letot
I also did a bunch of research about three years ago and chose the top Kenmore 
front loader. 
   
  To answer your question about getting clothes clean, it does so quite well. 
It tosses your clothes throught the soapy water, which is more like hand 
washing. Clothes get quite clean, they last longer (not as much wear and tear 
from the agitator), and as has already been noted, you use a LOT less 
detergent. You'll also save energy, since the clothes are drier coming out of 
the washer (the spin is FAR more efficient) so you don't need the dryer to run 
as long. 
   
  We've had no problem with leaking except once when a visitor didn't believe 
me about the detergent and poured in more than she would've for a top loading 
machine! That WILL run a small amount of water out on the floor through an 
overflow, which is not actually a leak. It was amazing how much soap remained 
in our clothes from the top load we used to have -- and we weren't soap fiends 
by any means -- we found that the first few loads of clothes after we changed 
washers had enough soap in them to clean without adding more! 
   
  The only down-side is that the cycle takes longer, but we've adjusted to 
that. On some washers, once you start the cycle, you can't open the door to add 
forgotten items, but look around for ones that don't limit you in that way -- 
they're out there. 
   
   




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday

2007-08-04 Thread Gary Hurst
no, it's like that.  but at least they will sign autographs and talk to your
kid, unlike the freaks from the NBA making $15 million a year and claiming
to owe you nothing for giving it to them.

On 8/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really? You mean it is different from most other women's sports which
 are about 35% less exciting than men's sports? (unless you count
 women's volleyball - beach or indoors - either way, it's a spectacle
 with the former bordering on the pornographic).

 Brian

 On 8/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, i know none of you care, but
 
  the USL W-league is the highest level of women's soccer in north
 america.
  if you live in the rochester area and are looking for a nice family
 event
  for this sunday, go to this game.  if you are disillusioned by big time
  sports, got to this game.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 Was it Jill whose husband dubbed her She Who Must Be Annoyed, or was
 that some other WA resident, like maybe Casey's wife?

Mine indeed, but if you ask me, _many_ of these occasionally
delightful creatures deserve that sobriquet.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond

My parents replaced their 35 year old refridgerator last year and have been 
stunned by the savings.
Interestingly it seems like the new fridge cycles more often but has a shorter 
cycle. Definately uses like 50% of the power...

On waterheaters I'd imagine the new ones are MUCH better insulated than even 10 
years ago and more than that ago fuggetaboutit. Remember when people were 
setting their houses on fire wrapping hotwater heaters in insulation?

Yay forced hot water heat. Turn on the tap, the furnace fires up and hot water 
is there... Of course it means I'll burn a tank of oil in the summer but I'm 
okay with that.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 19:37:36 -0700 (PDT)
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I guess I look at the difference in cost amortized
over the life of the appliance.  That being
considered, you're talking about less than $10/year
for the difference, which isn't really significant in
my mind.

That also doesn't factor in the cost savings in energy
efficiency.  While I can't imagine water heater
technology has gotten to the point of really major
gains in efficiency over the last 10 years, with other
appliances it is definitely a consideration.

The house is just about 10-1/2 years old, so some of
the appliances are ready to be turned.  I just cut
about 35% off my water bill by going to a front
loading washing machine last month.  I can't begin to
imagine what a difference it will make when we replace
our almost 15 year old side by side refrigerator in a
couple of months

Dan (reducing my carbon footprint)

   
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 I've been wondering how the thing can get the same amount of clothes
 clean with less water, and wondering if the door on these designs will
 eventually leak.

That bothers me too.  That and the fact that our water
is effectively free means that there is not likely one
in our immediate future.

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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 Off topic of shocks - can anyone tell me what the approved
 proportions of Zerex G 05 and water are,

Half and half.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond

Our house came with all relatively new (within 5-8 years) appliances but when I 
need to replace the washer I'll buy a Staber.
http://www.staber.com more expensive up front but over the long haul
They are THE washers among the RE set so they've got to be using less energy...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:54:43 -0700
From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re:  Tools and Quality)
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front
loading washing machine last month.

What brand/model did you go with?  I'll be in the market for one very
 soon 
since we're buying a house.  My parents have a Maytag Neptune that
 seems to 
be working well for the past 5 years.  The laundromat here at the
 apartment 
complex just installed new Maytag commercial HE front loaders that
 don't 
seem to be getting clothes too clean at all.  I think that our cheap
 top 
loader did a better job.

Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 

   
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the price
I am asking.

Mike

 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
 for $1000 cash.

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
the RE set?

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- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)



 Our house came with all relatively new (within 5-8 years) appliances but 
 when I need to replace the washer I'll buy a Staber.
 http://www.staber.com more expensive up front but over the long haul
 They are THE washers among the RE set so they've got to be using less 
 energy...

 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:54:43 -0700
 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re:  Tools and Quality)
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
 reply-type=original

 I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front
 loading washing machine last month.

 What brand/model did you go with?  I'll be in the market for one very
 soon
 since we're buying a house.  My parents have a Maytag Neptune that
 seems to
 be working well for the past 5 years.  The laundromat here at the
 apartment
 complex just installed new Maytag commercial HE front loaders that
 don't
 seem to be getting clothes too clean at all.  I think that our cheap
 top
 loader did a better job.

 Kevin in Portland, OR
 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yea, I had a killer list of deals and nobody jumped on them.  Strange.  If 
yours was closer I would have been all over it.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?


 No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
 with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the price
 I am asking.

 Mike

 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
The best long term one would be a Speed Queen (non-electronic), but 
they require attendance (they hop all over the place if the load 
doesn't balance on the spin cycle) and are expensive -- $1500 last time 
I looked a couple years ago.

I ended up with a Bosch from Lowe's -- I believe they still carry the 
brand, but not at all stores.  Again, large and expensive ($1300), but 
my oh my what a difference in clean!  Neptunes are good IF you can keep 
them in a low humidity enviroment (the electronics are on the bottom, 
duh!) -- damp environment equals burned out boards, which can get 
expensive.

I especially like the simplicity of the Bosch controls -- a dial for 
temp and agitation cycle, a couple of buttons for spin speed, and 
that's it.  Far easier than teaching my 80 year old mother how to use 
one of the overly-complicated touch-screen types!

I've been quite happy.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Change the fluid before changing the pump.   If the fluid is gray, you 
will need to change pump and flush the steering box though.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Door gaskets are a wear item.  They will need to be replaced at some 
point, but then the pump on every top load washer I've ever used 
eventually leaked and had to be replaced, too.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond

Think so? I'd say the wagon. I've never had a 124 wagon but my 123 wagon was 
the most comfortable ride I've ever had.

Of course my wagon was a disaster but when it was running good it was the most 
pleasurable car to drive I've ever had.
My wife agrees, someday we're planning on driving across the US and I've 
already compiled a short list of possible cars
116 SD
123 TD - either turbo or manual shift n/a. A friend has a 4spd and says its a 
hoot. I haven't driven it yet.
aircooled VW microbus.

Obviously one of these things is not like the others...
In any event there would be a fairly big money outlay for the vehicle to make 
sure it was in tip top shape before the trip.

Any opinions, I'm thinking to buy a mid price range car in decent shape with a 
few issues and spend a few months and some probably not inconsiderable cash 
making it perfect.
As opposed to buying something more expensive that might have hidden flaws that 
we'd discover on the road...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:10:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shocking
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The car still does not bottom out or bang down after going over a
 speed  hump
 at 30  MPH!

The W116 is the ultimate car for suckering a tailgater over a rough
 railroad
crossing at 60mph. W126 may be as good, but I haven't owned one of
 those. 
It's not a stunt you want to pull in a W201.034, mine rides like a
 buckboard
compared to my 300SD. 

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond

Holy cow! How many people in your household?

We paid $50 for water last QUARTER. Of course its only two of us...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 07:31:53 -0400
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Buy LG from Home Depot (or buy.com believe it or not)

We just bought a pair to replace a 10 year old top load/dryer, and my
 wife 
researched every make and model before she decided on the LG. They have
 the 
best customer satisfaction and I must say, we are very impressed with
 them. 
Not only do they save water, they save detergent, and do a better job.

We paid about $50 a month for water, and the washer was probably half
 that. 
The front load uses 1/3 the water of top load, so 50/2 = $25, 25/3 =
 $8.33, 
or a savings of $16.67 each month. That over the next 10 years is over 
$2,000, and that is more then we paid for the washer and dryer. Our
 bills 
come every three months, so I will soon know if these numbers work out.

Mercedes Content and added bonus - the washer and dryer cost more then
 at 
least 3 Mercedes I have bought, so I have leverage next time I see a
 deal.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond

Renewable energy. Specifically folks living off grid on solar/wind/hydro power.
With limited capacity for production you learn to conserve.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:57:49 -0500
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the RE set?

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 06:37:58 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I've been wondering how the thing can get the same amount of clothes
  clean with less water, and wondering if the door on these designs will
  eventually leak.
 
 That bothers me too.  That and the fact that our water
 is effectively free means that there is not likely one
 in our immediate future.

There is more than one point to their efficiency. One is use of less
water. Another is spinning faster to extract the water more thoroughly,
which means you run your dryer less to get the clothes dry. Unless you
dry your clothes on a line (hard to do in the winter), you save that way,
too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
Let's make a deal Kaleb...I'll bring it 500 miles closer to
you.

I need some cash by tuesday so it needs to go.

Mike

 Yea, I had a killer list of deals and nobody jumped on them.  Strange.  If
 yours was closer I would have been all over it.

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 No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
 with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the
 price
 I am asking.

 Mike

 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel
 tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
 for $1000 cash.

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 There is more than one point to their efficiency. One is use of less
 water. Another is spinning faster to extract the water more thoroughly,
 which means you run your dryer less to get the clothes dry. Unless you

Definitely a factor.

 dry your clothes on a line (hard to do in the winter), you save that 
 way,
 too.

We do this often.  In winter we have a clothes rack that sits near
the wood stove.  An added bonus there is humidification of the house.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 If yours was closer I would have been all over it.

...and that's the story for most of us, probably.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
It's 1217 miles from here to ClaremoreI'll bring it 600 for
freemake me a good offer and I'll see about bringing it
further.

Mike

 Let's make a deal Kaleb...I'll bring it 500 miles closer to
 you.

 I need some cash by tuesday so it needs to go.

 Mike

 Yea, I had a killer list of deals and nobody jumped on them.  Strange.
 If
 yours was closer I would have been all over it.

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 No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
 with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the
 price
 I am asking.

 Mike

 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out
 of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for
 a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel
 tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
deal.

Mike

 If yours was closer I would have been all over it.

 ...and that's the story for most of us, probably.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread LWB250
This was something I didn't realize, either.  In fact,
my drying times are lower because the clothing comes
out of the washer much dryer that with a top-loader.

I will say that my purchase was precipitated by the
failure of my 6 year old Maytag, which blew the
transmission.  There was no reason for attempting a
repair, as the parts cost alone made it prohibitive.

That being said, I did not have a $1000 budget for a
washing machine, either.  I did what research I could
in the limited time I had, and found that there are a
number of sub-$1000 machines that are as good as the
more expensive ones.  The main differences were a
lower capacity (but only in tenths of a cubic foot)
and fewer cycles.

I ended up buying a GE front loader at Lowe's for
slightly less than $700 along with rebated delivery
and a $50 gift card.  I just got my first water bill
with the washer in use for a whole month, and it went
down over 30%.  In Florida that's a pretty substantial
savings, as we get gouged on water in this part of the
stae due to restrictions.

I just changed over from a gas water heater (propane
here, we don't have natural gas) so I should be seeing
a BIG drop in my gas bill.  In fact, it should drop to
zero, since this was the last gas appliance outside of
the fireplace and spa heater that we have.

Dan (reducing my carbon footprint on a daily basis)



--- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is more than one point to their efficiency.
 One is use of less
 water. Another is spinning faster to extract the
 water more thoroughly,
 which means you run your dryer less to get the
 clothes dry. Unless you
 dry your clothes on a line (hard to do in the
 winter), you save that way,
 too.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 This was something I didn't realize, either.  In fact,
 my drying times are lower because the clothing comes
 out of the washer much dryer that with a top-loader.

Than with _your_ top loader.  I looked into buying a
Fisher Paykel when it looked like I was going to have
to replace our washer.  It's a top loader, yet at the
time got clothes the driest of anything.  Didn't
have to do it then, I've been able to keep our 1974
Kenmore running.

I doubt that _any_ front loader could be kept running
this long.  Lack of availability of the custom door gaskets
alone would probably guarantee this.

 I just changed over from a gas water heater (propane
 here, we don't have natural gas) so I should be seeing
 a BIG drop in my gas bill.  In fact, it should drop to
 zero, since this was the last gas appliance outside of
 the fireplace and spa heater that we have.

 Dan (reducing my carbon footprint on a daily basis)

I haven't seen those new nuclear-powered driers yet.
Or are you merely exporting your carbon footprint to
a different neighborhood?  Unless you've switched to
the clothesline.  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
 Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
 deal.

3000 miles away.  Not practical.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Our water bill is about $25 or so per month.

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- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers


 
 Holy cow! How many people in your household?
 
 We paid $50 for water last QUARTER. Of course its only two of us...
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 07:31:53 -0400
 From: The Wakin's [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re:  Tools and Quality)
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Buy LG from Home Depot (or buy.com believe it or not)
 
 We just bought a pair to replace a 10 year old top load/dryer, and my
 wife 
 researched every make and model before she decided on the LG. They have
 the 
 best customer satisfaction and I must say, we are very impressed with
 them. 
 Not only do they save water, they save detergent, and do a better job.
 
 We paid about $50 a month for water, and the washer was probably half
 that. 
 The front load uses 1/3 the water of top load, so 50/2 = $25, 25/3 =
 $8.33, 
 or a savings of $16.67 each month. That over the next 10 years is over 
 $2,000, and that is more then we paid for the washer and dryer. Our
 bills 
 come every three months, so I will soon know if these numbers work out.
 
 Mercedes Content and added bonus - the washer and dryer cost more then
 at 
 least 3 Mercedes I have bought, so I have leverage next time I see a
 deal.
 
 Dave W
 
 
 
   
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
oh yea, also those front loaders get more water out on the final spin so you 
do not have to run the drier as long, saves electricity/gas there.

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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers



 Holy cow! How many people in your household?

 We paid $50 for water last QUARTER. Of course its only two of us...

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 07:31:53 -0400
 From: The Wakin's [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re:  Tools and Quality)
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Buy LG from Home Depot (or buy.com believe it or not)

 We just bought a pair to replace a 10 year old top load/dryer, and my
 wife
 researched every make and model before she decided on the LG. They have
 the
 best customer satisfaction and I must say, we are very impressed with
 them.
 Not only do they save water, they save detergent, and do a better job.

 We paid about $50 a month for water, and the washer was probably half
 that.
 The front load uses 1/3 the water of top load, so 50/2 = $25, 25/3 =
 $8.33,
 or a savings of $16.67 each month. That over the next 10 years is over
 $2,000, and that is more then we paid for the washer and dryer. Our
 bills
 come every three months, so I will soon know if these numbers work out.

 Mercedes Content and added bonus - the washer and dryer cost more then
 at
 least 3 Mercedes I have bought, so I have leverage next time I see a
 deal.

 Dave W




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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread John Robbins
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 Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
 deal.

He's in WA.  Don't think you want to drive that far!

I'm 1000 miles away... (Starkville, MS) if I had a car trailer I would 
meet you halfway.  I have a line on a tranny (I think).

Did you ever post any pictures?

John

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread John Robbins
Jim Cathey wrote:

 I doubt that _any_ front loader could be kept running
 this long.  Lack of availability of the custom door gaskets
 alone would probably guarantee this.

The commercial ones probably run for an equivalent amount of time!  Just 
find a laundry mat thats going out of business ;)

I think the Kenmore/Frigidaire washers are based on a commercial design 
(or they really look like it anyway) so it might be easier to find a 
gasket for them.

John

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Your maytag failed after 6 years?  My grandmother always had a maytag 
washer/drier.  Must be front he 60's.  It was still going strong when she 
died several years ago.  My dad still uses it and its going strong.  I have 
had my maytag top loaded for about 8 years. Its still going great although I 
wouldnt mind getting rid of it go get a front load washer/drier.

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From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)


 This was something I didn't realize, either.  In fact,
 my drying times are lower because the clothing comes
 out of the washer much dryer that with a top-loader.

 I will say that my purchase was precipitated by the
 failure of my 6 year old Maytag, which blew the
 transmission.  There was no reason for attempting a
 repair, as the parts cost alone made it prohibitive.

 That being said, I did not have a $1000 budget for a
 washing machine, either.  I did what research I could
 in the limited time I had, and found that there are a
 number of sub-$1000 machines that are as good as the
 more expensive ones.  The main differences were a
 lower capacity (but only in tenths of a cubic foot)
 and fewer cycles.

 I ended up buying a GE front loader at Lowe's for
 slightly less than $700 along with rebated delivery
 and a $50 gift card.  I just got my first water bill
 with the washer in use for a whole month, and it went
 down over 30%.  In Florida that's a pretty substantial
 savings, as we get gouged on water in this part of the
 stae due to restrictions.

 I just changed over from a gas water heater (propane
 here, we don't have natural gas) so I should be seeing
 a BIG drop in my gas bill.  In fact, it should drop to
 zero, since this was the last gas appliance outside of
 the fireplace and spa heater that we have.

 Dan (reducing my carbon footprint on a daily basis)



 --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is more than one point to their efficiency.
 One is use of less
 water. Another is spinning faster to extract the
 water more thoroughly,
 which means you run your dryer less to get the
 clothes dry. Unless you
 dry your clothes on a line (hard to do in the
 winter), you save that way,
 too.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
Not even remotely close!!  LOLOL

Mike

 Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
 deal.

 3000 miles away.  Not practical.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread slozukimc
I haven't posted pics...I will go take some right now and post them ASAP.

That OK with you Kaleb?  To post pics here I mean.

Mike

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 Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
 deal.

 He's in WA.  Don't think you want to drive that far!

 I'm 1000 miles away... (Starkville, MS) if I had a car trailer I would
 meet you halfway.  I have a line on a tranny (I think).

 Did you ever post any pictures?

 John

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[MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\)





Will leaking delivery valve seals on a 2.5t cause low power?  I have one that 
has 240D like performance at times it seems, has bad leaking seals, but runs 
great.  Will the leaks cause lower power or should I look elsewhere?  Yes, I 
will be replacing the seals anyway


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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Will leaking delivery valve seals on a 2.5t cause low power?  I have one that 
 has 240D like performance at times it seems, has bad leaking seals, but runs 
 great.  Will the leaks cause lower power or should I look elsewhere?  Yes, I 
 will be replacing the seals anyway

Not usually. Most common cause is plugged up pressure line to the ALDA 
or EGR valve stuck open (makes smoke too).

Marshall
-- 
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Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:33:27 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will leaking delivery valve seals on a 2.5t cause low power?  I have one
 that has 240D like performance at times it seems, has bad leaking seals,
 but runs great.  Will the leaks cause lower power or should I look
 elsewhere?  Yes, I will be replacing the seals anyway

It would seem that if the diesel that's supposed to get to the cylinders
doesn't, that you would have less power.

Replace the seals, see what happens, and then look elsewhere if necessary.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread Rick Knoble
 OK Don wrote:
 The power sterring pump on my father's 1999 2.5 Ford Ranger is whining
 rather loudly. It seem to work fine, and isn't leaking fluid. The
 truck only has 48k miles.
 A local McParts has two rebuilt pumps - ATSCO and Beck-Arney. Might
 either of them be any good?

Try here. El-Cheapo to OEM quality parts for your domestic auto. You make 
the choice, not some pimply faced youngster at your FLAPS.
http://www.rockauto.com/

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[MBZ] Bathtub and bell curves

2007-08-04 Thread Robert Bigham
The question of how long a light bulb lasts is used in several introductory
books on statistics.

How long does a light bulb last?  A truthful answer is It varies.  But 
people tend to want a single number.  Maybe the average.

As applied to this problem, the bell curve plots bulb life (in hours or
some 
unit of time) against number of bulbs in the sample that last so long
before 
failing.  The bathtub curve plots bulb life against number of bulbs failing
at some 
particular life.  The curves are something of complements of each other; at
any 
life the two add up to 100% of the bulbs in the experiment.

Some fail out of the box.or early, then few fail, then at the end, all
survivors 
finally fail.  

Conversely, only a few last a short time, many last something like 
the average life, and only a few last into light bulb old age.

Clear as mud?

Robert  

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 Zoltan Finks wrote:
  
  Man, that gives me flashbacks of the statistics class I took to get my
  bachelor's degree recently. Is the bathtub curve the bell curve?

 More like the antithesis of the bell curve. A 'normal distribution' bell
 curve peaks at the mean and drops off on both sides. The 'bathtub' as he
 describes it, has peaks on both ends and a wide trough in the middle. 
 Mitch.




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[MBZ] Posting pix

2007-08-04 Thread Robert Bigham
Non text attachments get scrubbed all the time.  I don't think
pix will make to being viewed.  They might.  

Why not just email the pix to him? 

Robert

 Message: 18
 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 I haven't posted pics...I will go take some right now and post them
ASAP.

 That OK with you Kaleb?  To post pics here I mean.

 Mike

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
  deal.
 
  He's in WA.  Don't think you want to drive that far!
 
  I'm 1000 miles away... (Starkville, MS) if I had a car trailer I would
  meet you halfway.  I have a line on a tranny (I think).
 
  Did you ever post any pictures?
 
  John




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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread ernest breakfield
i had a local SF Bay Area indy tell me last week he doesn't buy 123 
diesels that aren't running and in perfect condition anymore; the dearth 
of Berkeley hippies buying them to run what they think are going to be 
free biofuels has resulted in a glut of cars that have been trashed by 
bad fuel(s) and lack of proper maintenance... that combined with the 
increases in prices of parts and decreasing availability has made the 
123s much less desirable.
at least that's *his* story... and that was just after he told me he 
sold his rather beat daily driver TD in a heartbeat when someone offered 
him $5 out of the blue for it, complaining that he hadn't been able to 
find one in 6 months of shopping.   ;-*


cheers!
e


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
 with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the price
 I am asking.

 Mike

   
 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 
 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
 for $1000 cash.

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Posting pix

2007-08-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 11:15:31 -0500 Robert Bigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Non text attachments get scrubbed all the time.  I don't think
 pix will make to being viewed.  They might.

That's how the old list at mbz.org used to work.

Kaleb's list is much better than that. The pictures won't be sent with
each individual email to each member of the list, but the email will have
links at the bottom that will display the pictures in a web browser.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:01:18 -0700 ernest breakfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 at least that's *his* story... and that was just after he told me he
 sold his rather beat daily driver TD in a heartbeat when someone offered
 him $5 out of the blue for it

$5 or $5k ?


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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
This thing doesnt smoke at all.  I checked the ALDA line, but will check it 
again.  Not sure what the EGR is doing.  I do know I had several codes set 
in the computer when I checked it a few weeks ago.  I will check them again 
and see what they were exactly.

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- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?


 Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote:




 Will leaking delivery valve seals on a 2.5t cause low power?  I have one 
 that has 240D like performance at times it seems, has bad leaking seals, 
 but runs great.  Will the leaks cause lower power or should I look 
 elsewhere?  Yes, I will be replacing the seals anyway

 Not usually. Most common cause is plugged up pressure line to the ALDA
 or EGR valve stuck open (makes smoke too).

 Marshall
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 Marshall Booth Ph.D.
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Re: [MBZ] Posting pix

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
pics are just fine to post.

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- Original Message - 
From: Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Posting pix


 Non text attachments get scrubbed all the time.  I don't think
 pix will make to being viewed.  They might.  
 
 Why not just email the pix to him? 
 
 Robert
 
 Message: 18
 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 I haven't posted pics...I will go take some right now and post them
 ASAP.

 That OK with you Kaleb?  To post pics here I mean.

 Mike

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
  deal.
 
  He's in WA.  Don't think you want to drive that far!
 
  I'm 1000 miles away... (Starkville, MS) if I had a car trailer I would
  meet you halfway.  I have a line on a tranny (I think).
 
  Did you ever post any pictures?
 
  John
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic

2007-08-04 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/3/2007 10:40:37 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Does  your lawn mower need that much Pennzoil?




Don,
 
lol!
 
I would use Pennzoil platinum anywhere that I would use Mobil 1, though my  
preference is Mobil 1.  Everything I run gets synthetic oil, if  applicable.
 
My complete list of internal combustion devices DOES NOT include a lawn  
mower, though I do have a leaf blower.
 
Regards,
 
Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 267 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles
94 Bravada, 181 K miles
94 Eldorado Northstar, 92 K miles
95 Mustang, 165 K miles
93 Toyota powered dune buggy.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic/thanks

2007-08-04 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/3/2007 11:11:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Me,  baby, me!  I got my kit yesterday with the hat, stress reliever,  and
rebate form.  The oil is going into my Civic, my girl's Cherokee  (stick
shift!) and any friends who need oil  changes.



Thanks, Suni  

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[MBZ] OT: *SIGH*

2007-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Sold 4 items on eBay and managed to get 3 out of 4 who can't read I won't ship 
outside of North America, don't even ask! in my auction. One is in Pakistan 
and the auction ended for $0.01, I'm sure as hell not shipping to Pakistan on a 
penny item...
The other guy is at least over a hundred bucks and is in the UK. I might 
consider that one.

-Curt

   
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Re: [MBZ] Shocking/suckering

2007-08-04 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/4/2007 4:11:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The W116  is the ultimate car for suckering a tailgater over a rough  railroad
crossing at 60mph. W126 may be as good, but I haven't owned one of  those. 
It's not a stunt you want to pull in a W201.034, mine rides like a  buckboard
compared to my 300SD. 



Mitch,
 
The 116 IS a great riding car!  I have to admit I enjoy suckering the  tail 
gating soccer moms over the speed humps in the neighborhood, too!  I'd  like to 
have video of some of the car seat occupants way in the back!  My  Eldorado, 
with active suspension, is pretty good over the humps, too.
 
Jim  Friesen
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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Gary Thompson
We're still running a 13 year old Maytag top loader here. With 4 kids,
it gets used a LOT. 6-7 loads a week, at least. I've had to replace a
timer and a tub seal, but that's it.

Gary Thompson
1995 E320 (just turned over 140K miles!)


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 Your maytag failed after 6 years?  My grandmother always had a maytag
 washer/drier.  Must be front he 60's.  It was still going strong when she
 died several years ago.  My dad still uses it and its going strong.  I have
 had my maytag top loaded for about 8 years. Its still going great although I
 wouldnt mind getting rid of it go get a front load washer/drier.

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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
No smoke with bad knocking at idle, smooth above 1500 rpm and low power 
is the set of symptoms on my 300D that was cured by new delivery valve 
seals.  Bad head gasket didn't help any there, either.

No smoke, low power, and sluggish throttle reponse at low speeds can be 
plugged fuel filters -- just replaced mine, what a difference!

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Craig!

yeah, sorry; you're right, thanks for catching that. that was 
supposed to read *$5K*.


cheers!
e


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 On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:01:18 -0700 ernest breakfield
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   
 at least that's *his* story... and that was just after he told me he
 sold his rather beat daily driver TD in a heartbeat when someone offered
 him $5 out of the blue for it
 

 $5 or $5k ?


 Craig


   
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I just replaced them on this car also thinking that was it, didnt help

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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?


 No smoke with bad knocking at idle, smooth above 1500 rpm and low power 
 is the set of symptoms on my 300D that was cured by new delivery valve 
 seals.  Bad head gasket didn't help any there, either.
 
 No smoke, low power, and sluggish throttle reponse at low speeds can be 
 plugged fuel filters -- just replaced mine, what a difference!
 
 Peter
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

2007-08-04 Thread BillR
Price is good, but I would have to get it down here to get it fixed.  That
would be expensive.  You could always move to Atlanta or Jax ...
BillR 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

i had a local SF Bay Area indy tell me last week he doesn't buy 123 diesels
that aren't running and in perfect condition anymore; the dearth of
Berkeley hippies buying them to run what they think are going to be free
biofuels has resulted in a glut of cars that have been trashed by bad
fuel(s) and lack of proper maintenance... that combined with the increases
in prices of parts and decreasing availability has made the 123s much less
desirable.
at least that's *his* story... and that was just after he told me he
sold his rather beat daily driver TD in a heartbeat when someone offered him
$5 out of the blue for it, complaining that he hadn't been able to 
find one in 6 months of shopping.   ;-*


cheers!
e


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 No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought 
 with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the 
 price I am asking.

 Mike

   
 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out 
 of bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

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 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives 
 nice, brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove 
 it for a week and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too 
 bad.  Fuel tank needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is 
 clogging the fuel filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

 
 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her 
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 
 miles for $1000 cash.

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


The Wakin's wrote:
 
 Buy LG from Home Depot (or buy.com believe it or not)

Five years ago my mom was looking for a new washer.
I wanted to get her a front loader for a gift, good thing I asked 
her some questions, turned out that women old enough to collect
Social Security don't always like to bend over. She wanted a top
loader. Eventually I found the Fisher-Paykel GWL10, which was
only $699 list, had to pay about $650 for it. Kind of like a
Whirlpool Calypso with an agitator. Does a waterfall cycle in
the beginning with very little water, and ends with a 1000rpm
spin cycle. 

I visited the dealer recently, he had an old GWL10 that needed
a new computer board. He told me I could have it for $150 after he
fixes it. I'm happy. Now all I have to do is find a decent $100 dryer.
When the washer spins like an extractor, the dryer isn't as important.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 Our house came with all relatively new (within 5-8 years) appliances but when 
 I need to replace the washer I'll buy a Staber.
 http://www.staber.com more expensive up front but over the long haul
 They are THE washers among the RE set so they've got to be using less 
 energy...

There are two other reasons why the solar cells on a mountaintop people
love Stabers. All the mechanical parts are off-the-shelf items, you can
buy bearings, etc, wherever such items are sold. But the most important
reason for off grid homeowners to own a Staber washer is that you can
get it in a low voltage DC version, and run it directly off your battery
without using an inverter. Someday I'd like to visit the Staber factory
in Ohio and see what their washers look like. It's the only top loading,
horizontal axis washer that I know of. I assume there's some kind of a
sealed door in the drum so you can load it. 

Mitch.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley


John Robbins wrote:
 
 I think the Kenmore/Frigidaire washers are based on a commercial design
 (or they really look like it anyway) so it might be easier to find a
 gasket for them.

I had a salesman tell me that once. I later learned that while they
look like a Speed Queen, they aren't the same. Last I knew (5-6 years ago)
a Speed Queen front loader without the coin box was about $1500,
or three Frigidaires. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic

2007-08-04 Thread Rick Knoble
 My complete list of internal combustion devices DOES NOT include a lawn  
 mower, though I do have a leaf blower.

Synthetic for the leaf blower...
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Racing_2T.aspx

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?

2007-08-04 Thread Zeitgeist
I suspect that was our p-whipped colleague up in Seattle, Clay.  Apparently
he can't fart without first getting a signed release from the missus.  I
think she's a lawyer, so he knows better than to challenge the arrangement.
It's sad, really.  Pray for him.

On 8/4/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Was it Jill whose husband dubbed her She Who Must Be Annoyed, or was
 that some other WA resident, like maybe Casey's wife?


Casey
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Re: [MBZ] Shocking

2007-08-04 Thread LarryT
As with others I highly recommend the Bilsteins - to see the difference hold 
your used Bilstein next to your new Monroe - like I did several years ago 
when finances required I buy the heaper Monroes.  The chrome shaft on the 
Bilsteins is about twice as large (diameter) as the Monroe - same for the 
body of the shock - the Bilsteins are built much more substantially and 
their lifespan proves the point.

Buy the Bils once every 15 years or so (usually more) Vs. buying Monroes 
every 3-5 years.

It's just like buying a good MB* and it will be the cheapest car you'll ever 
own, the Bilsteins are the same.  (*= within the constraints of buying a 
used diesel in excellent condition with complete repair history - it'll last 
a lifetime and cost very little to drive/maintain)

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Subject: [MBZ] Shocking


 Gents,

  I am in need of new shocks. My questions:

  Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference?

  Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions?

  Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated.

  Thanks!

  David
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread OK Don
Good point. The fliud looks good, and doesn't smell burnt, but I'll
change it anyway. I wonder if it has a filter -- might have to find a
book, there must be a trip to the library in my future.

On 8/4/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Change the fluid before changing the pump.   If the fluid is gray, you
 will need to change pump and flush the steering box though.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread OK Don
I wondered if it was normal for a Ford - or non MB vehicle.


 FWIW my 95 Mazda B2300 (Ford Ranger) has always had a whiny PS pump.

 Might want to ask these guys... http://www.ford-trucks.com/  Very good
 forum with very knowledgeable folks. :)

 John

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread OK Don
Since the original factory unit has less than 50K miles on it, I'd be
wary of one from a bone yard.

On 8/3/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Boneyard? ... then you get factory.


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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread OK Don
When mine were leaking, they left a mess on top of the IP, left a
distinct Diesel odor as you walked by the car, and it required
significantly more cranking to start in the AM. I didn't notice any
change in power after replacing them on either the 603 or the 602
engine.

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[MBZ] 240D water pump

2007-08-04 Thread Anthony Galioto
The water pump on my 83 240D is dripping.  Rusty sells 2 different kinds,
one is a GEBA and the other is a LASO.  What is the better of the two, the
price difference is not great and I would like to install the best one.
Thanks

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: *SIGH*

2007-08-04 Thread Wonko the Sane
I have shipped to France and Japan w/out difficulty. However, I always give
them a disclaimer before doing so that they must pay for insurance and that
I am not responsible and will not issue a refund if the item doesn't arrive.


On 8/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sold 4 items on eBay and managed to get 3 out of 4 who can't read I won't
 ship outside of North America, don't even ask! in my auction. One is in
 Pakistan and the auction ended for $0.01, I'm sure as hell not shipping to
 Pakistan on a penny item...
 The other guy is at least over a hundred bucks and is in the UK. I might
 consider that one.

 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, I check the alda line, it seems fine.  On this car is a little 
different than the 91.  It comes out of the intake, goes to a Y, one of 
the Y's go to the ALDA, the other Y goes to a pressure sensor by the 
battery.  Does not have the cutoff switch in between.  I pulled the 
codes and it had one for EGR actuator/transducer something or other, one 
for rack position sensor, and one for starter ring gear sensor.  Cleared 
the code for EGR, but no matter what I did I couldnt get the other 2 to 
clear, even after unhooking the battery for a while.  I also noticed 
while idling, if you run the engine ad various RPM, the flap deal on the 
turbo outlet never moved at all.  On any other 2.5 I have seen, it seems 
to move back and forth at various times if you rev it up and/or down 
while sitting there.  No code set for that but something doesnt seem 
right. I do know when my other one I had, if you had any sort of vacuum 
leak you had zero power.  I suspect there is a leak somewhere.

Anybody know how to test all those switchover valves, and vacuum 
transducers/actuators whatever they are over on the passenger side?

OK Don wrote:
 When mine were leaking, they left a mess on top of the IP, left a
 distinct Diesel odor as you walked by the car, and it required
 significantly more cranking to start in the AM. I didn't notice any
 change in power after replacing them on either the 603 or the 602
 engine.
 

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[MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Zeitgeist
So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure modes.  One
is the weak output of the fan.  The other is the weak output of cooling.  I
suspect the former is due to clogged evaporator coils, which apparently
can't be rectified short of a complete dash removal.   The fan appears (by
the sound of it) to be working at normal speeds.

The latter issue is more mystifying.  Here are the symptoms:

   - Low side readings = 50 psi
   - High side readings = 65 psi
   - Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient
   - Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect if
   there were a low charge level.
   - sight glass is cloudy

Any thoughts?  Any at all?

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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Kaleb:

Pull a vaccum on the supply line.  If it won't hold, the transducer is 
toast.  I'd replace both of them, it's been known to fix the problem 
right up (or all three -- EGR, flap, and turbo boost control).

If any one of the three is bad, the computer goes to limp mode, self 
explanatory.

Peter

On Aug 4, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 Well, I check the alda line, it seems fine.  On this car is a little
 different than the 91.  It comes out of the intake, goes to a Y, one of
 the Y's go to the ALDA, the other Y goes to a pressure sensor by the
 battery.  Does not have the cutoff switch in between.  I pulled the
 codes and it had one for EGR actuator/transducer something or other, 
 one
 for rack position sensor, and one for starter ring gear sensor.  
 Cleared
 the code for EGR, but no matter what I did I couldnt get the other 2 to
 clear, even after unhooking the battery for a while.  I also noticed
 while idling, if you run the engine ad various RPM, the flap deal on 
 the
 turbo outlet never moved at all.  On any other 2.5 I have seen, it 
 seems
 to move back and forth at various times if you rev it up and/or down
 while sitting there.  No code set for that but something doesnt seem
 right. I do know when my other one I had, if you had any sort of vacuum
 leak you had zero power.  I suspect there is a leak somewhere.

 Anybody know how to test all those switchover valves, and vacuum
 transducers/actuators whatever they are over on the passenger side?

 OK Don wrote:
 When mine were leaking, they left a mess on top of the IP, left a
 distinct Diesel odor as you walked by the car, and it required
 significantly more cranking to start in the AM. I didn't notice any
 change in power after replacing them on either the 603 or the 602
 engine.


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   90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 
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Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Way low on freon -- high side at 70F and 1500 rpm with compressor 
engaged should be about 250 psi.  The other choice is a bad compressor, 
but you should have more pressure than that in the low side if the 
compressor is bad.  May have a bad low pressure cutout switch (or it's 
wired around) too.

The evaporator can be cleaned by removing the blower and spraying it 
with evaporator cleaner (don't use anything that can corrode aluminum). 
  Likely the screed over it is packed solid with crap.

You do NOT want to remove the evaporator if it is not indeed 
leaking.

On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

 So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure modes. 
  One
 is the weak output of the fan.  The other is the weak output of 
 cooling.  I
 suspect the former is due to clogged evaporator coils, which apparently
 can't be rectified short of a complete dash removal.   The fan appears 
 (by
 the sound of it) to be working at normal speeds.

 The latter issue is more mystifying.  Here are the symptoms:

- Low side readings = 50 psi
- High side readings = 65 psi
- Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient
- Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect if
there were a low charge level.
- sight glass is cloudy

 Any thoughts?  Any at all?

 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D water pump

2007-08-04 Thread LarryT
I would suggest you ask Rusty.   Either send him an email today or use 
Instant Messaging on Monday - he'll be happy to help - just ask if he knows 
which lasts the longest.  Likely they are comparable and the price is the 
only difference.

Don't forget to buy a new gasket - they don't typically come with the pump.

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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D water pump


 The water pump on my 83 240D is dripping.  Rusty sells 2 different kinds,
 one is a GEBA and the other is a LASO.  What is the better of the two, the
 price difference is not great and I would like to install the best one.
 Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
You nailed it.
A ford truck where the power steering pump doesn't whine at least a 
little,  is a pretty rare thing.

---Robert

OK Don wrote:
 I wondered if it was normal for a Ford - or non MB vehicle.

   
 FWIW my 95 Mazda B2300 (Ford Ranger) has always had a whiny PS pump.

 Might want to ask these guys... http://www.ford-trucks.com/  Very good
 forum with very knowledgeable folks. :)

 John
 

   


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[MBZ] 78 240D Making Odd Noise

2007-08-04 Thread LarryT

Howdy -
My 240D has a sound like something is running besides the engine - like 
a roar that is not dependant on the speed of the engine but *is* dependant 
on the speed of the car.  My car has a solid fan attachment (no viscous 
clutch) and I've replaced the motor mounts which cured a lot of strange 
noises.

The roar gets louder as I speed up and quieter as I slow down.  What do 
bad center bearings sound like?   I've had bad u-joints on other cars and 
know what they felt like - and this ain;t like that.  Any reason I should 
expect the noise to be the same?

I must be rambling - never had a problem like this before -

Any ideas?

TIA -

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering

2007-08-04 Thread tom savage
Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:
 You nailed it.
 A ford truck where the power steering pump doesn't whine at least a 
 little,  is a pretty rare thing.

I was thinking the same thing.  You should hear a new Bentley 
Continental at idle and full lock.  Sounds just like an F-150.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] 78 240D Making Odd Noise

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Bad center u-joint  sounds like a bad muffler, but varies with road 
speed independent of engine speed.  Cure is driveshaft replacement, 
it's much cheaper to get a used shaft than replace the bearing ($650 
last time I heard for the repair).  Used shaft is about $100.

Check for vibration at the carrier -- just aft of the center of the 
driver's seat on the tunnel.

A bad carrier bearing makes a grinding noise.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 78 240D Making Odd Noise

2007-08-04 Thread Kevin Kraly
It could be the differential mount or a wheel bearing too.  My '81 300CD had 
a hum/roar coming from the right front that couldn't be heard until reaching 
at least 40MPH.  Beyond that, the hum would become higher in frequency.

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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the turbo and the waste gate control (electronic?  If so, the 
transducer is likely bad, no boost!)

Make sure you have good fuel delivery to the IP, too -- the hoses on 
the suction side can crack and leak air in -- lotsa knock and lousy 
power.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Zach

Go buy the 300E at pickapart (probably $300-400 if the engine is still
there) and do some dissection of the dash and AC on that before you
fuck with the nice car...

That is my advice..

  -Zach

--- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure
 modes.  One
 is the weak output of the fan.  The other is the weak output of
 cooling.  I
 suspect the former is due to clogged evaporator coils, which
 apparently
 can't be rectified short of a complete dash removal.   The fan
 appears (by
 the sound of it) to be working at normal speeds.
 
 The latter issue is more mystifying.  Here are the symptoms:
 
- Low side readings = 50 psi
- High side readings = 65 psi
- Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient
- Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect
 if
there were a low charge level.
- sight glass is cloudy
 
 Any thoughts?  Any at all?
 
 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey
- Low side readings = 50 psi
- High side readings = 65 psi
- Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient
- Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect if
there were a low charge level.
- sight glass is cloudy

1) Low charge
2) leaking reed valves in compressor

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday

2007-08-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
I agree. I was just being crass.

Brian

On 8/4/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 no, it's like that.  but at least they will sign autographs and talk to your
 kid, unlike the freaks from the NBA making $15 million a year and claiming
 to owe you nothing for giving it to them.

 On 8/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Really? You mean it is different from most other women's sports which
  are about 35% less exciting than men's sports? (unless you count
  women's volleyball - beach or indoors - either way, it's a spectacle
  with the former bordering on the pornographic).
 
  Brian
 
  On 8/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   well, i know none of you care, but
  
   the USL W-league is the highest level of women's soccer in north
  america.
   if you live in the rochester area and are looking for a nice family
  event
   for this sunday, go to this game.  if you are disillusioned by big time
   sports, got to this game.
  
   i'm sure the rest of you will be watching it this sunday on FSC
  
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 The Sounders took an early lead in just the sixth minute,
  putting
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   first two matches 4-0 and 5-2. The 'Backs returned to their scoring ways
  at
   the close of the first half when *Krista Davey* sent a cross into the
  box
   and *Christine Latham* finished a diving header to even the score in the
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Atlanta did not let the halftime break slow their offensive
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   and the Silverbacks took the lead in the 46th minute when *Monica Buff*
  laid
   the ball back to *Tara Minnax* who finished the go-ahead goal. Buff
  finished
   a goal of her in the 68th minute when she sent in a 35-yard shot that
  proved
   too much for the keeper to handle. The Silverbacks finished their final
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   The Silverbacks launched their W-League franchise just three
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: 78 240D Making Odd Noise

2007-08-04 Thread James Zavesky
Check the front wheel bearings. 

James Zavesky

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of LarryT
 Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:15 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] 78 240D Making Odd Noise
 
 
 Howdy -
 My 240D has a sound like something is running besides the engine -
 like
 a roar that is not dependant on the speed of the engine but *is* dependant
 on the speed of the car.  My car has a solid fan attachment (no viscous
 clutch) and I've replaced the motor mounts which cured a lot of strange
 noises.
 
 The roar gets louder as I speed up and quieter as I slow down.  What
 do
 bad center bearings sound like?   I've had bad u-joints on other cars and
 know what they felt like - and this ain;t like that.  Any reason I should
 expect the noise to be the same?
 
 I must be rambling - never had a problem like this before -
 
 Any ideas?
 
 TIA -
 
 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: 78 240D Making Odd Noise

2007-08-04 Thread LWB250
I had a 108 one time (1970 280S) that had the absolute
worst rumbling sound in the front end.  It was coming
from the left front (driver's side) and was most
certainly a bad wheel bearing.

I changed the LF wheel bearing and adjusted to spec
with a dial indicator.

The front end still rumbled.

I went over that thing with a fine tooth comb and was
never able to pin it down.  A month after I bought it
someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse on it, and
I sold it with full disclosure.

Found out a few weeks later it was the *right* front
wheel bearing that was bad, but for soime reason the
noise transmitted through the suspension and sounded
like it was coming from the left front.

Lesson learned.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Hendrik
Depends what you are after, if you just want a machine then anything 
will do but if you are interested in the long term then you have to look 
at machines that are servicable. We have had Miele machines in our 
family for decades and while they are more expensive than Asian brands, 
they are build to be repairable.
Sort of like a Hyundai vs Merc

Sunny Letot wrote:
 I also did a bunch of research about three years ago and chose the top 
 Kenmore front loader. 

   To answer your question about getting clothes clean, it does so quite well. 
 It tosses your clothes throught the soapy water, which is more like hand 
 washing. Clothes get quite clean, they last longer (not as much wear and tear 
 from the agitator), and as has already been noted, you use a LOT less 
 detergent. You'll also save energy, since the clothes are drier coming out of 
 the washer (the spin is FAR more efficient) so you don't need the dryer to 
 run as long. 

   We've had no problem with leaking except once when a visitor didn't believe 
 me about the detergent and poured in more than she would've for a top loading 
 machine! That WILL run a small amount of water out on the floor through an 
 overflow, which is not actually a leak. It was amazing how much soap remained 
 in our clothes from the top load we used to have -- and we weren't soap 
 fiends by any means -- we found that the first few loads of clothes after we 
 changed washers had enough soap in them to clean without adding more! 

   The only down-side is that the cycle takes longer, but we've adjusted to 
 that. On some washers, once you start the cycle, you can't open the door to 
 add forgotten items, but look around for ones that don't limit you in that 
 way -- they're out there. 

   

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday

2007-08-04 Thread Hendrik
It is interesting to note if there is a backlash against big money 
sports, with the average fan being marginalised to a being a cash cow 
who has no real ownership of the sport.
It's early days but there seems to be a growing number of football 
supporters abandoning the big league in favour of the local competition 
because the local competition is making an effort to be family friendly 
rather than being treated like cattle at the big game.

Gary Hurst wrote:
 no, it's like that.  but at least they will sign autographs and talk to your
 kid, unlike the freaks from the NBA making $15 million a year and claiming
 to owe you nothing for giving it to them.

   

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers

2007-08-04 Thread Hendrik
Our Miele spins at 1100 rpm, can be set to 600 but don't know why.
Has water saving cycles and all the other stuff, which is not bad 
considering it was the base model.
Anyway we just bought a new fridge and I have to modify the kitchen to 
fit the blasted thing in, that's what happens when you take the missus 
along. You end up with a big fridge and an empty wallet.

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 oh yea, also those front loaders get more water out on the final spin so you 
 do not have to run the drier as long, saves electricity/gas there.

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Re: [MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Hendrik
Anything can fail but the question is can it be repaired economically.
Strange how people put up with cars breaking down but if a washing 
machine decides to go down after 6 years people are in shock.

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 Your maytag failed after 6 years?  My grandmother always had a maytag 
 washer/drier.  Must be front he 60's.  It was still going strong when she 
 died several years ago.  My dad still uses it and its going strong.  I have 
 had my maytag top loaded for about 8 years. Its still going great although I 
 wouldnt mind getting rid of it go get a front load washer/drier.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)

2007-08-04 Thread Hendrik
I didn't think those sort of people would need a washing 
machine..joking :-)

Mitch Haley wrote:
 Curt Raymond wrote:
   
 Our house came with all relatively new (within 5-8 years) appliances but 
 when I need to replace the washer I'll buy a Staber.
 http://www.staber.com more expensive up front but over the long haul
 They are THE washers among the RE set so they've got to be using less 
 energy...
 

 There are two other reasons why the solar cells on a mountaintop people
 love Stabers. All the mechanical parts are off-the-shelf items, you can
 buy bearings, etc, wherever such items are sold. But the most important
 reason for off grid homeowners to own a Staber washer is that you can
 get it in a low voltage DC version, and run it directly off your battery
 without using an inverter. Someday I'd like to visit the Staber factory
 in Ohio and see what their washers look like. It's the only top loading,
 horizontal axis washer that I know of. I assume there's some kind of a
 sealed door in the drum so you can load it. 

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 2.5T, delivery valve seals leaking, low power?

2007-08-04 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I also noticed while idling, if you run the engine ad various RPM,
 the flap deal on the turbo outlet never moved at all.  On any other
 2.5 I have seen, it seems to move back and forth at various times if
 you rev it up and/or down while sitting there.  

I can't really help much except to confirm this.  Even have a video of it...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4605726731024330225

Your leak comment sounds about right...  IIRC, the computer is smart 
enough to know that there aren't enough EGR gases being recirculated 
(from the EGR valve or the throttle not working)  to cut off boost (by 
opening up the wastegate at all times).

John



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Re: [MBZ] 240D water pump

2007-08-04 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/4/2007 3:33:20 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  water pump on my 83 240D is dripping.  Rusty sells 2 different  kinds,
one is a GEBA and the other is a LASO.  What is the better of  the two, the
price difference is not great and I would like to install the  best one.
Thanks



Anthony,
 
You want a pump with a cast iron impeller, not the stamped steel one!   For 
sure confirm that!
 
Be sure to see if your old pump has any core value.  the factory pump  cores 
with the star' stamped on them are worth nearly as much as new after  market 
pump  

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Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery

2007-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well the evaporator is easy to clean.  Just pull the fan and its right 
there.  Takes all of 10 minutes at most to get it removed.

On the pressures, sounds like your compressor is not compressing to me.

Zeitgeist wrote:
 So, my AC ('87 300TD) seems to be experiencing multiple failure modes.  One
 is the weak output of the fan.  The other is the weak output of cooling.  I
 suspect the former is due to clogged evaporator coils, which apparently
 can't be rectified short of a complete dash removal.   The fan appears (by
 the sound of it) to be working at normal speeds.
 
 The latter issue is more mystifying.  Here are the symptoms:
 
- Low side readings = 50 psi
- High side readings = 65 psi
- Vent temps = 50 degrees @ ~70 degrees ambient
- Compressor engages, yet doesn't cycle off and on as I'd suspect if
there were a low charge level.
- sight glass is cloudy
 
 Any thoughts?  Any at all?
 

-- 
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  90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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