RE: [newbie] Permissions on a directory

2000-03-13 Thread Ernie

I'm having a hell of a time getting my win and lin machines networked, I
know the networking is set up and working, I'm using an isdn router for
internet access and I can get out with both machines, but then don't see
each other, I can ping both from the other, but that's about it

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 10:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Permissions on a directory


I have a 6GB HD that  is formatted to vfat that I would like to use as
both my Wind'ohs and Linux 'scrap' drive to store my documents, downloads
etc.  I can store stuff here from W but as soon as I try to save anything
under Linux anywhere on the drive it tells me I don't have access.  I
have tried the usual ways to change the permissions but cannot get
anything to work.

Suggestions?

Wayne


Wayne Petherick
 Criminology Department
Bond University





[newbie] desktop resolution

2000-03-13 Thread Glenn Biclar


how do i make my desktop size from640x480 to 1024x768?



Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? (please respond this time)

2000-03-13 Thread Tony



Ranish Partition Manager is able to resize partitions probably 
also PartitionMagic and various other utilities I have forgotten but which you 
might find on the freeware/shareware sites often as part of a multiboot program, 
I remember looking at several 2/3 years ago when interested in multibooting 
win95/Cpm/linux.

"Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy 
dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of 
paradise." (The linux user)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kyle "Orange" 
  Spahn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 10:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? 
  (please respond this time)
  
  Okay: I understand about the types of partitions 
  that I have to have.. but right now.. I have a Windows partition that is like 
  26068 MB (or something close to that) and then I have a 15MB empty partition.. 
  that's all.. and it doesn't allow me to resize my Windows partition without 
  deleting it. I just got this computer from Gateway like a week ago and it's a 
  powerhouse system with full Linux compatibile components..
  
  -Kyle "Orange" SpahnFreespace 2 CoordinatorLead 
  ReviewerDescent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com
  
  NewsGameLordz Network - http://www.gamelordz.net
  
  NewsSummoner Homeland - http://www.summonerhl.com
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Alex Kirkovsky 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 7:34 
PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? 
(please respond this time)

Your boot partition MUST be before 1024 
cylinder..
Reorganize your partition something like 
that:

1. WinXX (if you have one)
2. Linux boot partition (starting from cylinder  1024) 
Size: ~30MB
3. WinXX (if you want to have more space for 
Windoze)Size: up to you
4. Linux swap partition, Size: up to you
5. Linux root partition, Size: up to you

So, the ONLY important point here is No.2
Regards,Alex Kirkovsky



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kyle 
  "Orange" Spahn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 8:16 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Drive Full?!? 
  (please respond this time)
  
  Hey Everyone,
   I keep trying to partition 
  my hard drive so I can use Linux, but when I do so, it says that the last 
  cylinder of my drive is full. So it thinks my entire drive is filled up, 
  which it isn't. I have a 27.3 GB Hard Drive which I've maybe used 5 GB of. 
  It's definitely not full! I need help!!! PLEASE!
  
  -Kyle "Orange" SpahnFreespace 2 
  CoordinatorLead ReviewerDescent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com
  
  NewsGameLordz Network - http://www.gamelordz.net
  
  NewsSummoner Homeland - http://www.summonerhl.com


Re: [newbie] How to intall coffeecup web editor?

2000-03-13 Thread Jeanette Russo

What version of Mandrake?
Jeanette

- Original Message -
From: "Adam Stark" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 5:10 PM
Subject: [newbie] How to intall coffeecup web editor?


 Hi,

 I've been having some real problems trying to install the Coffeecup HTML
Editor
 for Linux.  I followed all the the quick-start instructionsextracting
the
 tar.gz file into a temporary directory and then running it's installer
while
 logged in as root.  However the installer always quits on me without ever
 installing the software.  What gives?

 Any help is appreciated,
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thanks, Adam.





Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? (please respond this time)

2000-03-13 Thread John Couturier

Partition Magic will pay for itself in "hours saved" very soon after you buy it, 
beautifull program.  One very very very big problem you could have is if you have 
previously tried to partition/re-partition with "DiskDrake" or "linux fdisk".  Those 
two programs when they re-write your partition table do it in the order the partitions 
were created, windows requires them in there "logical" order.  Partition Magic is 
windows based.  I love the program but lost my most important stuff because of this 
little problem. Outside of that it is great and will solve your problem.  If you do 
get it and get an error #120, the only way to rebuild it in a way Partition Magic can 
understand is to wax it and start from scratch.

-- Original Message --
From: "Tony" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:44:49 -0400

Ranish Partition Manager is able to resize partitions probably also PartitionMagic 
and various other utilities I have forgotten but which you might find on the 
freeware/shareware sites often as part of a multiboot program, I remember looking at 
several 2/3 years ago when interested in multibooting win95/Cpm/linux.

"Weave a circle round him thrice,
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kyle "Orange" Spahn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 10:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? (please respond this time)


  Okay: I understand about the types of partitions that I have to have.. but right 
now.. I have a Windows partition that is like 26068 MB (or something close to that) 
and then I have a 15MB empty partition.. that's all.. and it doesn't allow me to 
resize my Windows partition without deleting it. I just got this computer from 
Gateway like a week ago and it's a powerhouse system with full Linux compatibile 
components..

  -Kyle "Orange" Spahn
  Freespace 2 Coordinator
  Lead Reviewer
  Descent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com

  News
  GameLordz Network - http://www.gamelordz.net

  News
  Summoner Homeland - http://www.summonerhl.com
- Original Message - 
From: Alex Kirkovsky 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Drive Full?!? (please respond this time)


Your boot partition MUST be before 1024 cylinder..
Reorganize your partition something like that:
 
1. WinXX (if you have one)
2. Linux boot partition (starting from cylinder  1024) Size: ~30MB
3. WinXX (if you want to have more space for Windoze) Size: up to you
4. Linux swap partition, Size: up to you
5. Linux root partition, Size: up to you

So, the ONLY important point here is No.2

Regards,
Alex Kirkovsky


  - Original Message - 
  From: Kyle "Orange" Spahn 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 8:16 PM
  Subject: [newbie] Drive Full?!? (please respond this time)


  Hey Everyone,
  I keep trying to partition my hard drive so I can use Linux, but when I do 
so, it says that the last cylinder of my drive is full. So it thinks my entire drive 
is filled up, which it isn't. I have a 27.3 GB Hard Drive which I've maybe used 5 GB 
of. It's definitely not full! I need help!!! PLEASE!

  -Kyle "Orange" Spahn
  Freespace 2 Coordinator
  Lead Reviewer
  Descent Chronicles - http://descent.gamestats.com

  News
  GameLordz Network - http://www.gamelordz.net

  News
  Summoner Homeland - http://www.summonerhl.com






RE: [newbie] Music Composer?

2000-03-13 Thread RICHARD FRIEDMAN

On Sunday, March 12, 2000, Tom Berger wrote:


 http://www.freshmeat.net/search.php3?query=music

 gives 98 hits. You will have to do some searching ;-)...

 tom

Thanks. I was hoping someone could give me a lead on some software available
commercially since, at the moment, I don't have Internet access other than
email.

Thanks for the info though. I should get my access back soon.

--
Rick Friedman
Salant Corp. - MIS Dept.
800-472-8013 x4814
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Art Richardson

You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything that
related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just inexperienced
with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe my
questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you to
show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .

1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have been
told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work properly.
The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family computer
and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will disabling
the PnP feature do to the windows side??

2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found that
you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think I
did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I click
on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my nic
to work. I can't configure anything.

3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake. I
am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
machine down.

Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I just
have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
Art




RE: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Pittman, Merle

To start without X, just type "linux 3" at the the lilo prompt (without the
quotes of course).  This will give you the test based/command line login.

What mode did you install in??  I could not get Drakconf to work until I
installed in expert mode, then it worked fine.

Not sure about the NIC, I am using same card and it works fine with pnp
enabled??
 -Original Message-
 From: Art Richardson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 10:20 AM
 To:   Newbie
 Subject:  [newbie] Where is the so called help???
 
 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
 willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
 in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything
 that
 related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
 someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
 this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just
 inexperienced
 with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
 newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe
 my
 questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you
 to
 show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
 girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
 stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
 before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
 person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .
 
 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have
 been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work
 properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family
 computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will
 disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??
 
 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found
 that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think
 I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I
 click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my
 nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.
 
 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake.
 I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.
 
 Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I
 just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art
 



Re: [[newbie] Where is the so called help???????]

2000-03-13 Thread Michael Scottaline

"Art Richardson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BIG snip
 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake. I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.
===
When you boot, type in "linux 3" w/o the quotes.  If you prefer this as a
constant, edit /etc/inittab
id:5:initdefault 
Change the 5 to a 3
Mike

"Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
than alcohol has taken out of me."
--Winston Churchill


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http://webmail.netscape.com.



RE: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Mike Perry


 -Original Message-
 From: Art Richardson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Mon 13 March 2000 15:50
 To:   Newbie
 Subject:  [newbie] Where is the so called help???
 
 
 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have
 been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work
 properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family
 computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will
 disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??
 
I have the same nic in my dual booting system.
No probs.
The worst that may happen to you is that you may have to manually
enter the 
IRQ and I/O in Winblows and or Linux.
The way I set mine up was I looked in Winblows to see what recources
it was useing
and then disabled plug and play on the nic and entered those values
into the nic.
There is a dos program to do this that you get from the 3com site on
the WWW.
Mandrake had no problems to detect the settings (version 6.1) It
detected the card and 
I let it probe for settings.

 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found
 that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think
 I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I
 click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my
 nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.
 
Can't help you with that I'm afraid, I don't have Mandy 7

 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake.
 I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.
 
I believe this is the easiest way:

On the lilo boot prompt type

linux init 3



 Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I
 just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art
 
Cheers:

Michael Perry.
RD. Dep. Netafim Magal.
Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack




Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Vidyut Luther

- Original Message -
From: "Art Richardson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:50 AM
Subject: [newbie] Where is the so called help???

 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
 willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
 in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything
that
 related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
 someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
 this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just
inexperienced
 with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
 newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe
my
 questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you
to
 show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
 girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
 stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
 before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
 person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .


Or maybe they didn't know the answer ? .. or due to the heavy volume of this
list.. didn't get to read the mail yet.
Contrary to popular belief people who use Linux, also have a life, and need
time to sort through mailing lists. I for one subscribe to more
than one mailing list, have a job, and have friends.. which in turn means on
a slow day I read around 700 messages. I use linux, but i'm still human
so are the others who are on this list. I'm sure I'm part of the masses on
this list, and not a rare exception.

Anyway, it's not wise to insult someone and then ask them for their help.
but thats just my personal take on things..
now to your problem.

 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have
been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work
properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family
computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will
disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??

I did this once, and Windows ran like a charm, unless you have to reinstall
windows, if you do, I think SE will recognize it, or if not..
you should have the drivers for it on a disk. I did this dual boot in the
days of Slack 3.2 and Windows 95. I'm hoping 98 will have no problem
working with a non-pnp card.


 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found
that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think
I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I
click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my
nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.

One of the problems of Linux WM's is that they usually don't tell you if
they can't find a file. They print out to STDERR, and STDERR is never
STDOUT, anyway.. open up an xterm, and type drak (and then hit tab), it
should give u a list of executables in your path that start with the letters
drak.
if you see drakx, or drakxconf then proceed to type that. start gnorpm, and
try to find it from there.

 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake.
I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.

Point and click way to do it, is to use drakxconf (see above :)). But if you
can't find it, try running setup, if thats not installed, try XConfigurator,
or if all else fails,
go to /etc/rc.d, and do the following

grep kdm * ; this will search all the files in the directory that have the
words kdm in them, open up the file and comment out the section that says
starting X, or if you don't want to mess with files manually
(if you're new to linux, I wouldn't recommend it). Once the window pops up
asking for your Login info, type

ctrl -alt -f1 , this will switch you to tty1, which is a normal console, you
can switch between them by changing f1 to f2, note f7 will take you back to
X.

Hope that helps..

PS: here are some useful sites.. (will help everyone on this list).

http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP (I know it's metalab now, but old habits die
hard).
http://lhd.datapower.com (Linux Hardware database, this has saved my life
more often than I can recall).
http://www.linuxpowered.com (my site.. sorry for the plug) :).
http://www.linux-mandrake.com (if this needs a description, go back to pre
school) :).

PPS: Say hullo to your gf for us.



Re: [newbie] How to intall coffeecup web editor?

2000-03-13 Thread Vidyut Luther

what was the error message ?
- Original Message -
From: "Jeanette Russo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to intall coffeecup web editor?


 What version of Mandrake?
 Jeanette

 - Original Message -
 From: "Adam Stark" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 5:10 PM
 Subject: [newbie] How to intall coffeecup web editor?


  Hi,
 
  I've been having some real problems trying to install the Coffeecup HTML
 Editor
  for Linux.  I followed all the the quick-start
instructionsextracting
 the
  tar.gz file into a temporary directory and then running it's installer
 while
  logged in as root.  However the installer always quits on me without
ever
  installing the software.  What gives?
 
  Any help is appreciated,
  Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Thanks, Adam.
 
 




Re: [newbie] iostream.h C++ development problems

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 -=qUeNCy95=- wrote:
 I'm not an expert programmer, but isn't the header file you want
 "iostream.h"
 and not "streamio.h"? I could be wrong and all, but I've never seen streamio
 and I can't find it on my system even though I installed everything even
 remotely related to development.
 
 That was a typo on my fault.  Im still getting an error about not finding
 file iostream.h, what RPM is this file in?  Can anyone else with Mandrake
 7 compile simple c++ source?


$ locate iostream.h
/usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h
/usr/include/g++-3/stdiostream.h

$ rpm -qf /usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h
libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-3mdk

Maybe it's a $PATH problem?

tom

P.S.: To find a certain file in a set of RPMs:

for i in *.rpm ; do rpm -qpli $i | grep [filename]  echo $i ; done 


 
 
  When I installed Madrake 7, I chose my primary use would be developer.  It
  seemed to have installed all my libraries I need (I thought).  I compiled
  xmms, kxicq, and BitchX.
  
  All 3 applications were written in C I believe.  However, I cannot compile
  any C++ programs.  Not even the simplest:
  
  #include streamio.h
  int main() { cout  "hello world"; return 1; }
  
  [quency95@xena quency95]$ gcc test.c
  test.c:1: streamio.h: No such file or directory
  
  Ok so I dont have c++ libraries installed?
  
  [quency95@xena quency95]$ rpm -q gcc-c++
  gcc-c++-2.95.2-3mdk
  [quency95@xena quency95]$ rpm -q libstdc++-devel 
  libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-3mdk
  [quency95@xena quency95]$ rpm -q libstdc++ 
  libstdc++-2.95.2-3mdk
  
  
  Should I be checking for anything else?
 -- 
 Anthony Huereca
 http://m3000.1wh.com
 Press any key to continue and any other key to quit
 

-- 
"No fun, no gain"
Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [newbie] XFree86 4.0

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 sujee wrote:
 Is there any RPM that i can download to upgrade  to XFree86 4.0
 
 
 thanx in advance!!
 
 
 
 Sujeevan


DON'T. There have been a lot of reports on instability and incompabilities. 
If you really must, check out www.rpmfind.net.

tom

-- 
"No fun, no gain"
Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [newbie] Compiling the Kernel

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey there, I'm having trouble compiling the kernel and I'm wondering if
 anybody can give me some input. Ok, here what I've done let me start by
 saying I'm running mandrake 6.1, and I'm trying to install linux kernel
 2.2.14.
 
   I've managed to compile the kernel correctly (make mrproper;make
 menuconfig make bzImage;make dep;make modules;make modules_installs), then
 I managed to copy bzImage to /boot/vmlinux-2.2.14 and linked vmlinuz ( soft
 link ), then I updated lilo by adding a "test" addition to lilo with my new
 kernel. 
 
   I did all that but when I rebooted I get messages like System.map has
 incorrect kernel version, and Modules-info.map incorrect kernel version. So
 I think I have to update System.map and Modueles-info.map, but I have no
 idea how to do that the HOWTO's don't have anything about that in their,
 any ideas's.

You've forgotten to copy the new System.map from the Linux source directory to
/boot. This map gets generated with each new kernel compilation and therefore
you need it in /boot.

tom

-- 
"No fun, no gain"
Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Make question ?

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 -=qUeNCy95=- wrote:
 How do I find out whether I have make installed ?
 
 rpm -q make
  
 And if I don't have make, where can I get it and install
 it...
 
 Put your Mandrake CD in
 cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
 
 as root type:
 rpm -Uvh make-some_version_number.rpm

or - if you are using LM 7-:

urpmi make

tom

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Re: [newbie] starting kppp automatically

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Gary K Stinnett Jr wrote:
 Tom Berger wrote:
 
 On 12-Mar-2000 Gary K Stinnett Jr wrote:
  I got perlseti running this weekend on my ML 7.02 box.  I use KPPP to
  dial into the internet.  Can anyone give me some info on how I can
  automatically connect to the internet so I can keep seti running all of
  the time.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Later
 
  Gary

 Create a new application icon in the Autostart folder. Supply this
 commandline:

 kppp -c [accountname]

 That should do.

 tom

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 Let me get this right.
 1. Create a new icon under Autostart,  'I called it seti autostart kppp'
 2. Under the Execute tab of properties for my new icon I should put 'kppp
 -c
 [accountname]'
 
 I'm quite the newbie!  What does accountname stand for?  What should I put
 for
 accountname?


The name for the account you have given in kppp's Setup.


 Also, will this start kppp and dial into the internet when I complete a seti
 packet?


No. This will dial up as soon as you start KDE. What you want would involve
some heavy scripting. So if this isn't implemented in the program itself, you
are out of luck, I'm afraid. Have a look at the docs of the program if they
mention something like this.

tom

 Thanks,
 Gary
 
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Re: [newbie] Can someone PLEASE do a ls -l /usr/bin/esd for me

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Alex V Flinsch wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote:
  -rwxrw root audio is what I have 
 
 And mpg123 works???  Id like to keep it like that, but I have to chmod
 o+rx it, otherwise mpg123 gives me permission denied errors :\
 
 leave it as 
 -rwxr-x---   1 root 81  31628 Dec  9 11:42 /usr/bin/esd
 
 then execute "esd "  as  root
 then try using mpg1234 as a user..
 
 
 -- 
 Alex
 (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

Agreed. Put it into /etc/rc.d/rc.local. This way it will be executed on boot
with the right permissions. 
By the way: you *are* member of the audio group, aren't you? Check this in
/etc/group.

tom

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RE: [newbie] Crystal Chipset NetGear irq(?) conflict

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Finally figured out the root of my sound problem.
 Apparently my Netgear PCI (jumperless) NIC and my Crystal Sound onboard sound
 card use the same irq/DMA/IO.  
 
 I reformated last night, used sndconfig to set my sound at diff irq/dma/io's.
 Then turned on the nic.  Had sound and internet.
 
 Rebooted today to do some windows stuff.  Came back to linux and no sound.  
 Well, almost none - I get a slight click when a sound should play.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Ty C. Mixon
 F.T.C. Enterprises
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ 26147713

Looks like Windos messes around with the settings. Have you tried to tell
Windos to use the same settings as in Linux?

tom

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RE: [newbie] Windows 2000 Source Code

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger

Good one! Thanks!

tom


On 13-Mar-2000 Mike Perry wrote:
 I know this is off topic, but couldn't resist it :-)
 
 
 
 For SW engineers eyes only.
 
 Windows 2000 Source Code
 
  So the secret is disclosed here ...
 
  /* Source Code to Windows 2000 */
 
  #include "win31.h"
  #include "win95.h"
  #include "win98.h"
  #include "workst~1.h"
  #include "evenmore.h"
  #include "oldstuff.h"
  #include "billrulz.h"
  #include "monopoly.h"
  #define INSTALL = HARD
 
  char make_prog_look_big[160];
 
 void main()
 {
 
   while(!CRASHED)
   {
 
   display_copyright_message();
   display_bill_rules_message();
   do_nothing_loop();
   if (first_time_installation)
   {
 
   make_50_megabyte_swapfile();
   do_nothing_loop();
   totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();
   search_and_destroy_the_rest_of_OS/2();
   make_futile_attempt_to_damage_Linux();
   disable_Netscape();
   disable_RealPlayer();
   disable_Lotus_Products();
   hang_system();
   }
 
   write_something(anything);
   display_copyright_message();
   do_nothing_loop();
   do_some_stuff();
 
   if (still_not_crashed)
   {
   display_copyright_message();
   do_nothing_loop();
   basically_run_windows_3.1();
   do_nothing_loop();
   do_nothing_loop();
   }
   }
 
   if (detect_cache())
   disable_cache();
 
   if (fast_cpu())
   {
   set_wait_states(lots);
   set_mouse(speed, very_slow);
   set_mouse(action, jumpy);
   set_mouse(reaction, sometimes);
   }
 
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1"); */
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11"); */
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95"); */
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98"); */
   /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
   printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");
 
   if (system_ok())
   crash(to_dos_prompt)
   else
   system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp", O_CREATE);
 
   while(something)
   {
   sleep(5);
   get_user_input();
   sleep(5);
   act_on_user_input();
   sleep(5);
   }
   create_general_protection_fault();
 }
 
 Michael Perry.
 RD. Dep. Netafim Magal.
 Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack

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RE: [newbie] Can't stop X

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 12-Mar-2000 Art Richardson wrote:
 Hi
   I installed Mandrake 7.0 in a dual boot machine. It installed
beautifully,
 almost  everything works except for my 3Com 3c509 isa PnP nic. However, what
 I am trying to figure out is how I exit from KDE and just run from the bash
 shell. Please tell me how to turn it off
 Many thanks
 Art

ALT-CTRL-F2, ALT-CTRL-F3 etc. Actually X just runs on one console but you have
6 of them.
To boot into console mode, type
linux init 3
at the boot prompt.

tom

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RE: [newbie] Keyboard stops working in Netscape

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Michelle Schneider wrote:
 I am using Mandrake 7.0.  When I use netscape for a while my keyboard stops
 working in netscape.  It still works for other programs, but not for
 netscape. 
 I have to close netscape and restart for it to work.  It makes it impossible
 to
 search for things or fill out forms.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
  -- 
 Michelle
 
 "Just because kittens are born in the hearth oven, that doesn't make
 them muffins."  Kahlan Amnell in _Temple of the Winds_ by Terry Goodkind.

Do you get this error at a certain point (e.g. choosing from drop-down menus)?
That's when I get it. What I usually do is to 'shade' Netscape (double click on
upper application bar) and then double click again to unshade the Netscape
window. Guess that's JAANB (just another annoying Netscape bug).

tom

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RE: [newbie] Hmmm

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Wayne wrote:
 Sorry guys.
 
 Further to my last, I have cheked the ownership of my device (hdd1) under
 my /dev directory and have found that it is owned by me (wapether) and not
 by root, yet root owns all of the directories on it and I cannot change
 the attributes as root or myself.  HELP!
 
 Wayne


Are you talking about directories on a Windos partition? You can't change their
permissions since Windos has no idea what permissions are. Try the umask entry
suggested by a previous poster.

Regards

tom
 
 
 
 Wayne Petherick
 Criminology Department
 Bond University
 
 

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RE: Fwd: RE: [newbie] imwheel: not working

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Nicholas Imfeld wrote:
 
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 Subject: RE: [newbie] imwheel: not working
 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:34:39 -0500
 From: Nicholas Imfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote:
 On 12-Mar-2000 Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
  I was reading the installation guide for imwheel; I did everything
  what I've been told, but my wheel is still not working.
  
  Here is my pointer section of /etc/X11/XF86Config:
  
  Section "Pointer"
 Protocol "PS/2"
 Device "/dev/psaux"
 Resolution 100
 Buttons 3
 ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection
  EndSection
  
  I was starting "imwheel -k" after I was restarting the X server.
  I have a Fujitsu 3 button wheel mouse.
  
  Does anyone know how to get the wheel working?
  
  Thanks a lot for your help!
  
  Regards,
  Claus.
 
 Mine works :-P *grin*. You forgot to adjust the Protocol:
 
 Section "Pointer"
 Protocol"IMPS/2"
 Device  "/dev/mouse"
 ZAxismapping 4 5
 
 You might also have to copy /etc/X11/imwheelrc to your home directory and
 rename it to '.imwheelrc'.
 
 tom
 
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 I've tried many different things myself in attempts to get the mouse wheel 
 working.  But whenever I change the protocol from PS/2 to IMPS/2 then I shut
 down and restart X my mouse flips out and the cursor flys to the upper right
 hand corner of the screen.  Any thoughts on how to get it to work.  
 
 -- 
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Brand of mouse? Brand of graphics card? 

tom

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[newbie] lothar dependency

2000-03-13 Thread Pittman, Merle

I am trying to install Lothar RPM using Mandrake 7.02 and KDE, but it has a
required dependency with libdetect.so.0 (which is apparently not on my
system).  I cannot find this on this distribution CD???   Can anyone offer
any help?
Thanks

MDP



Re: [newbie] how do i make WindowMaker open a new window, maximi

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Ryan Drafall wrote:
 Tom Berger wrote:
 
 On 11-Mar-2000 Ryan Drafall wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  The subject pretty much says it all.  Whenever I open a new window,
  whatever the program may be, it always opens in a window that is
  off-center on the screen.  How do I make it automatically maximize?
  Thanks for your help.
 
  --
 
  Ryan Drafall
gAIM S/N: Twygg1
   Linux 2.2.14-15mdk
 
 
 

 This depends on the app you are starting, if you are starting the program
 anew
 or open another window (e.g. a new Netscape window).
 Tell me which apps you mean and I will try to give you an example, if it's
 possible (it is in many cases, but requires some fiddling about).

 tom

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 Thanks for responding to my question.  First of all, whenever I start
 Netscape (in
 a new process), it NEVER opens in a maximized window.  Also, when I'm in
 Netscape
 and let's say I right-click on a link and choose OPEN IN NEW WINDOW, the new
 window that gets created also NEVER opens maximized.  It gets really annoying
 after a while.  I also notice that all the other programs in WindowMaker do
 the
 same thing...that is, opening in an UNmaximized window.  Thanks for your
 help.
 Ryan.

You can set this (I think!) via entries in the .Xdefaults file in your
home directory. This requires quite some man-page reading and fiddling about.

It's a bit different with Netscape, though. An entry in .Xdefaults like this:

Netscape.Navigator.geometry: =1024x768-0-0

will open every Navigator window at 1024x768. If that is your current screen
resolution, this will be fullscreen. If you use another screen resolution,
change this.

If you've made the changes, save the file and run

xrdb -merge ./Xdefaults

This loads the XResources data anew. Restart Netscape to see if it works.

More Netscape Xressources are at 

http://www.linux.com/tuneup/database.phtml/X11/Netscape/000112.html

Conventional X programs like xterm usually take command line parameters like
'-geometry'. Read the man pages.

Happy playing ;-)

tom

P.S.: More Netscape hacks are at
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cbrowse2.html

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[newbie] XCDROAST

2000-03-13 Thread BROWNE,MITCH (HP-SantaClara,ex5)

I am puzzled about how to get xcdroast to instll or
run.

I have Mandrake 7.0 and made the mistake of trying
to install xcdroast from from rpmfind yesterday
but was frustrated at every turn by finding a
bunch of dependencies which needed to be installed
first.  I started down that road but it just got
worse.

Today I found that there is an rpm for xcdroast on
the install cd.  Are all the rpm's in the 
mandrake/rpms directory already installed?

When I try to install the xcdroast rpm I get an
error msg saying libtix4.1.8.so needs to be 
installed.  This is the same sort of thing I
was getting yesterday.

My question. Is xcdroast installed by default? If
so how do I launch it?

My scsi cd is found when I do cdrecord -scanbus

Thanks. Mitch Browne, Agilent IT Support, Santa Clara CA



Re: [newbie] Winmodem

2000-03-13 Thread Tony

Virtually impossible, I understand from previous messages that they use el
cheapo method of utilising Windows OS to function , try faq's etc.

"Weave a circle round him thrice,
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

- Original Message -
From: "Eddy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: [newbie] Winmodem


 Hi All,
 Does anybody have experience use winmodem in mandrake 7?
 Thanks

 Eddy



Re: [newbie] Winmodem

2000-03-13 Thread Vidyut Luther

btw, if you have a "winmodem" from lucent, you can get it to work in Linux,
Lucent has the drivers on their website. I know 3 people who've gotten them
working.


- Original Message -
From: "Tony" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Winmodem


 Virtually impossible, I understand from previous messages that they use el
 cheapo method of utilising Windows OS to function , try faq's etc.

 "Weave a circle round him thrice,
   And close your eyes with holy dread,
   For he on honeydew hath fed,
   And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

 - Original Message -
 From: "Eddy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 11:21 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Winmodem


  Hi All,
  Does anybody have experience use winmodem in mandrake 7?
  Thanks
 
  Eddy




[newbie] S3 trio3d/2x problem

2000-03-13 Thread Ori Glick



Hello,
I installed mandrake 7. My video card is S3 trio3d/2x. I'm 
quite sure I've seen it in the supported
hardware list, but linux doesn't recognize it. I can run all X 
managers but instead of a mouse pointer i have a white square and everything 
works slow. any suggestions? I don't have a clue.
Thanks in advance.

---Regards,Ori Glick



[newbie] segmentation fault with DrakConfig or Xconfigurator

2000-03-13 Thread jero

Hello,
 I installed Mandrake Linux 6.1 and then did an upgrade to Mandrake 7.02.
Unfortunately, every time I click on Drak Config or Xconfigurator I get
a segmentation dump. Would anybody happen to know why?

Jero




Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Kit

BOY, I agree...with you BIGTIME...noone wants to help...they just
want to 
tell you to go somewhere and read...well, thats what I've been
doing...and doing
and doing...but it still does no good...most all tutorials are
very poorly written.
they use too much technical jargon...they don't remember that
HELP means you must
help them on the persons level of understanding...if they had
technical knowlegdge,
they wouldn't be asking questions...they would of fix their own
problem...man, what 
a bunch of dum people...for knowing so much as they do...

Art Richardson wrote:
 
 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
 willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
 in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything that
 related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
 someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
 this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just inexperienced
 with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
 newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe my
 questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you to
 show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
 girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
 stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
 before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
 person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .
 
 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??
 
 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.
 
 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake. I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.
 
 Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art

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[newbie] Broken X

2000-03-13 Thread Tony Alfrey

Here's a note I sent to Linuxcare about my Mandrake 6.1 install problems. 
Perhaps one of the list members has a suggestion, too.  Thanks!!

System:
Pentium II, 400 MHz, 256 MB on Intel 440 BX motherboard, two scsi 9 GB drives
Dual-boot Win98 and three other ext2 partitions, using Boot Magic
Video chip = Cirrus Logic 5480 PCI on motherboard, 2 MB RAM
scsi controller = ncr53C875 on motherboard

Currently running Caldera 2.3/KDE 1.1.2 on second drive.

Problem:
Purchased "Deluxe Linux O/S 6.5"  (from Fry's Elec.).  Installation goes fine,
linux runs well in run level 3.  X appears broken.  For example, the Mandrake
login graphic window, each component of which is assembled from different
graphic layers, has portions cut up and shifted.  Color block background for one
window may be offset to the side, frame for a text window may be shifted down,
text for two buttons may be overlapped, text for one window may be covered by
the shifted color background from another button.  Of course, since kde is
built on X, it is an even bigger mess.  For example, drag a window and it
leaves a trail of pieces of itself behind. 
This is not an XF86Setup problem.  Monitor is working fine (16 bpp,
1024x768), I know my sync rates!!  As a sanity check, I installed Red Hat 5.2
from an old VA Research disk circa very early 1999 which has virtually the same
install package and it installs with no problem.  Then upgraded it with the
"6.5" disk and X is now a mess again.
Incidentally, I had the exact same problem with a virtually identical Mandrake
disk from a book "GNU C++ For Linux".


Thanks in advance for your help.

---
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"



Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Lane Lester

Art Richardson wrote:
 
 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help.

I'm a newbie, too, and I don't have any answers for your specific
questions. But I do have a suggestion for getting more and better
responses: more and better Subjects. This is a high-volume list, and I
have to scan for Subjects of interest, either those that have a problem
I can solve or have a solution I can use.

I don't have time to read all the "Help!", "Mandrake 7", and blank
Subjects to see if there's anything there for me.

In your message you raised three separate questions. They would be
better posted as three messages with specific Subjects.

Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
 
Using Linux to get where I want to go...



RE: [newbie] Booting Another Mandrake

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Lane Lester wrote:
 As I described in another thread, I lost access to Mandrake by some of my
 fiddling.
 As a "safety net" I've installed a second Mandrake on my computer, and I'd
 like to have access to it from lilo. The second install has /boot in a
 separate partition at hda6 and the rest of the filesystem at hda7. I added
 the following to fstab:
 /dev/hda6 /mnt/mandrake2boot ext2 defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda7 /mnt/mandrake2 ext2 defaults 0 0
 
 I also added the following stanza to lilo.conf:
 image = /mnt/mandrake2boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-15mdk
   label = m2
   vga = normal
   append = "mem=124M"
   root = /dev/hdb7
   read-only
 
 But I get a kernel panic when I try to boot to this new Mandrake. Do you see
 a problem with the above?

One? ;-)

1) You try to boot a kernel via a partition you don't mount (/dev/hda6)

2) You point to an image relating to *the currently running* system. Even if
you manage to mount /dev/hda6 as root, you'll get a kernel panic. Why? Because
LiLo looks for an image on /mnt/mandrake2boot... etc and there will be none,
since for the system you now try to start, the image is in /mandrake2boot...
for this is the root system you've specified. (Linux is fun, isn't it? ;-)

3) The values are wrong (not 0 0 but 1 1 for boot and 1 2 for data)

4) Sorry, but your lilo.conf entry doesn't make any sense at all to me: 'root'
must point to the partition where the kernel is located. This is /dev/hda6 not
/dev/hdb7

5) I further assume you forgot to rerun 
lilo
after making changes to lilo.conf, because LiLo would have refused this
configuration.

So how to do it? I haven't tried it myself but maybe you find something
following these jots (I advise you to have a working boot diskette at hand...):

- every system needs a working LiLo of its own.

- Since there can only be one version of LiLo in the Master Boot Record, you
have to write the second to a diskette or the master sector of the root device.
You can't boot the second system, but that's no prob, use 

chroot /mnt

This does a 'change root', so that /mnt is now /. Run 'mkbootdisk' (you'll need
a floppy). This diskette will allow you to boot the second system. Type 'exit'
to get out of chroot mode.

- If you install the second lilo-boot sector into the master sector of the root
partition, you can start the second system via the first LiLo.
Don't use the 'image' flag but the 'other' flag and point it to the partition
where the second LiLo is installed to.

Let me know if you get it worked out!!

Happy playing ;-)

tom


(assuming you already have a lilo.conf for the second system
 -- 
 Lane
  
 Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
 Using Linux to get where I want to go...

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Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Tony

1) install (upgrade) linux with pnp off then turn back on and see if
ok at the same time you can reset startup!!! if you so desire.
2) what version mandrake are you using
3) trust your girlfriends instincts, she's had more experience than you.

"Weave a circle round him thrice.
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

- Original Message -
From: "Art Richardson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:50 AM
Subject: [newbie] Where is the so called help???


 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
 willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
 in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything
that
 related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
 someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
 this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just
inexperienced
 with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
 newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe
my
 questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you
to
 show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
 girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
 stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
 before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
 person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .

 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have
been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work
properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family
computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will
disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??

 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found
that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think
I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I
click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my
nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.

 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake.
I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.

 Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I
just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art




Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Harold Hartley

Now did you really think that linux was going to be easy to learn like windows.

NO, you have to understand about what you read about linux as it can do much
more than windows.

You also have to think how you ask your question and spell it out in your
message so others can see your trouble and also how you put for the subject...
You also have to have patients too, thats the biggest thing as when you
succeed, then you feel good at what you accomplished..
I know I do.. I'm still learning and have been running linux for a little over
a year..

Harold

-

Lane Lester wrote:

 Art Richardson wrote:
 
  You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
  that there is a large group of people who are willing to help.

 I'm a newbie, too, and I don't have any answers for your specific
 questions. But I do have a suggestion for getting more and better
 responses: more and better Subjects. This is a high-volume list, and I
 have to scan for Subjects of interest, either those that have a problem
 I can solve or have a solution I can use.

 I don't have time to read all the "Help!", "Mandrake 7", and blank
 Subjects to see if there's anything there for me.

 In your message you raised three separate questions. They would be
 better posted as three messages with specific Subjects.

 Lane
 
 Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
 
 Using Linux to get where I want to go...



Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Kit wrote:
 BOY, I agree...with you BIGTIME...noone wants to help...they just
 want to 
 tell you to go somewhere and read...well, thats what I've been
 doing...and doing
 and doing...but it still does no good...most all tutorials are
 very poorly written.
 they use too much technical jargon...they don't remember that
 HELP means you must
 help them on the persons level of understanding...if they had
 technical knowlegdge,
 they wouldn't be asking questions...they would of fix their own
 problem...man, what 
 a bunch of dum people...for knowing so much as they do...
 

May I interject my two cents?
I am a relative newbie but making progress and learning.
Perhaps you got the wrong impression when you started this, but Linux is not a
Mac and Linux is not Windows.
Most of the people writing these various technical notes are doing it for free
and certainly anyone providing help on the list is doing so for free.  I have a
stack of How-To's and manuals that reach to the ceiling and, although these
documents are not textbooks, they're certainly helpful, and I have learned a
lot by reading them.  It has not been easy, but the challenge has kept my brain
from rotting.  It has cost me only my time, paper and ink cartridges.  In
return, I have received an education probably of more value than one for which
I would have paid tuition.
Maybe one day I will know enough about Linux to write you a nice,
easy-to-understand manual.  But
a) you will have to pay me for it and
b) it will be out-of-date by the time it gets into print.
With that said, may I suggest for you several good references.  They will all
cost you money, and you will still have to read them, but in them I have found
many answers to questions posted on these lists.
"Using Caldera Open Linux" (QUE Pub.)  Although specific to Caldera, there's
lots of stuff in it for Linux in general.
"Practical KDE" (QUE pub.)
"Running Linux (3rd edition)" (O'Reilly pub.)

and my final suggestion, based on what I see about problems posted on many of
the lists is, bag the Red Hat (Mandrake) and load up Caldera 2.3.

Perhaps more than two cents.

-- 
Tony Alfrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I'd rather be sailing"



Re: [newbie] S3 trio3d/2x problem

2000-03-13 Thread Tony



I think I remember seeing it in the list, you need 
to install Mandrake using expert mode and make the appropriate choices for 
Xfree, also try to download 7.0-2iso there were definite problems with 7.0 which 
others may tell you more about.
"Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy 
dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of 
paradise." (The linux user)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ori Glick 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 12:18 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] S3 trio3d/2x 
  problem
  
  Hello,
  I installed mandrake 7. My video card is S3 trio3d/2x. I'm 
  quite sure I've seen it in the supported
  hardware list, but linux doesn't recognize it. I can run all 
  X managers but instead of a mouse pointer i have a white square and everything 
  works slow. any suggestions? I don't have a clue.
  Thanks in advance.
  
  ---Regards,Ori Glick
  


[newbie] (OT) I wonder ...

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger

... which OS runs Microsoft's servers:

http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.microsoft.comExamine=Wait..

Sorry, couldn't determine what the server was for host
www.microsoft.com on port 80.

Tried some other big sites - nobody hides the OS they're running. Just MS.
Makes you think...

Nevermind

tom

-- 
"No fun, no gain"
Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Third Mouse button

2000-03-13 Thread Guillermo Belli

In a console type setup and select mouse configuation. Then select your mouse
from the list and try if it works. If it doesn't try checking emulate 3 buttons.
hope this helps.

El Mon, 13 Mar 2000, escribiste:
 I have an MS Intellimouse and would like to use the wheel as a third
 button.  I don't want to use the scroll feature, just the button as a
 third (for paste functions extc).  Any idea?
 
 Wayne
 
 
 
 
 Wayne Petherick
 Criminology Department
 Bond University
 
 
-- 
Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340
ICQ #38321312
http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)



Re: [newbie] hdc: lost interrupt

2000-03-13 Thread Dave Novick

Pittman, Merle wrote:
 
 During install, when it tries to scan packages for install the CDROM hangs
 and this is the error I get: "hdc:  lost interrupt".

I got the same error when I was installing.  My CD-ROM is
the master on the second IDE bus (hence hdc).  I have
a crappy CD-ROM, so I'm assuming that LINUX is having problems
with it.

When I swapped it with another CD-ROM, I was able to install.


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Television - a medium.
So called because it is neither rare nor well done.
- Ernie Kovacs

Learn to pause - or nothing worthwhile can catch up to you.

I can only please one person per day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow is not looking good either.



Re: [newbie] Kppp problem please help!!!!!!!!

2000-03-13 Thread Mike Koceja

One thing i forgot to mention was the fact that i can
get online using network configurator-PPP/SLIP/PLIP. I
don't mind connection this way it's just that i have
to have 4 windows open and i don't know what speed I
am connected at.

--- Lance Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike Koceja wrote:
  
  Okay here is the problem. I configured
 kppp without
  any problems and it dials and connects to my ISP
 just
  fine. Right up until right after it tells me what
  speed I am connected at. At this point it tries to
  logon to a network when it fails so does ppp. I'm
 sure
  whatever is wrong is minor. PLEASE Someone
 help me out
  __
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
  http://im.yahoo.com
 
 Mike,
 Have you tried this with the log window open? What
 does it tell you?
 
 
 
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



Re: [newbie] (OT) I wonder ...

2000-03-13 Thread Vidyut Luther

it's a known fact, hotmail runs on freebsd + solaris, some parts of hotmail
run on NT, I don't care how evil MS is.. they aren't stupid.. they use what
they need to use to keep things up.
for some things NT is just fine and dandy, and for some NT isn't. the real
question is.. does MS use IIS on their NT boxes ? or do they use Apache ?
:).



- Original Message -
From: "Tom Berger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 12:26 PM
Subject: [newbie] (OT) I wonder ...


 ... which OS runs Microsoft's servers:


http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.microsoft.comExamine=Wait..

 Sorry, couldn't determine what the server was for host
 www.microsoft.com on port 80.

 Tried some other big sites - nobody hides the OS they're running. Just MS.
 Makes you think...

 Nevermind

 tom

 --
 "No fun, no gain"
 Thomas 'tom' Berger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
 http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] errors

2000-03-13 Thread Pittman, Merle

If you are josting the webserver on your own linux box and just using
myip.org to use a DNS, do the following.
Remove "namevirtualhost" from your httpd.conf.  Also set server name to your
IP address.  Restart the httpd deamon (httpd) and it should be fine.  The
ww.myip.com account that you setup takes care of the name resolution you
cannot put that in your own server.  If you could you would not need to be
using a myip.com redirection.

hope this helps.

 -Original Message-
 From: KompuKit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:45 PM
 To:   Mandrake Linux
 Subject:  [newbie] errors
 
 Here are my configs and error logs...
 can someone please tell me...whats wrong?
 trying to setup apache
 -- 
 KompuKit=
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ICQ# 7110071
 
 HomePage:
 http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg
 
 Personal WebServer:
 http://kompukit.myip.org
 
 (does not run 24/7)
 KompuKit=  File: error_logFile: httpd.conf  



Re: [newbie] increasing the font size in Netscape?

2000-03-13 Thread root

Thanks Mark.  I  tried it and it worked.  Just wondering if you know how to
get Mandrake to detect a SCSI card? I have an Adaptec 152x card and it doesnt
find/detect it at all in installation? Is there anyways i can use Lothar or
soemthing else besides reinstalling Mandrake to get it to detect it?

ANy help would be much appreciated..

BTW, what is your ICQ number?

mine is 4005585

Paul

Mark Irving wrote:

 Go into edit/preferences/font  to change this. Sometimes you have to exit
 Netscape and KDE for the changes to take effect. I also had to change my
 desktop resolution to get a better view. Small fonts, old eyes...not a good
 combo.

 ---Mark Irving---

 - Original Message -
 From: Funk Soul Brother [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:43 PM
 Subject: [newbie] increasing the font size in Netscape?

 



RE: [newbie] errors

2000-03-13 Thread Pittman, Merle

your full ip, localhost, or 127.0.0.1 , any should work.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 4:40 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] errors
 
 actually, I inserted my ip address...like this...
 122.214.41.*
 the first three numbers stay the same...so I just inserted a wildcard,
 for the 4th
 should I insert the whole ip address...or insert my localhost
 (127.0.0.1) addy?
 
 Kit wrote:
  
  Do you have ICQ...it would so much easier nad quicker...
  my uin# 7110071
  
  I edited them manually then rebooted...still get the same error...
  actaully commented those lines out...
  I'm using a dialup connectionwith external 33.6 modem
  
  "Pittman, Merle" wrote:
  
   Edit the /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file manually would be quickest.
 Just
   make the changes I mentioned.
  
   Are you using dial up, cable, dsl, etc for access?  If you are using
 cable
   or dsl, then eventhough these are often dynamic IP addessing (mine is)
 your
   IP address very rarely changes.  I've had the same one for months.
  
   If you are using dialup, it is a little harder.  This can change on
 every
   connection.  I am not sure what you can do here.
  
   there are some utils you can download that monitors your IP address
 and
   tells you when it changes, you might find that useful.
  
   Keep the questions coming, I'll help if I can.
  
-Original Message-
From: KompuKit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 3:16 PM
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: [newbie] errors
   
   
The trouble with that is this...I need to have myip.org
 updated...with
my dynamic
ip...each time...how can I do this...? and do I do what you
 suggested
inside linuxconf,
or inside drakeconf/networking/servers/webservers...or do I just
 edit
the httpd.conf file manually...if manually, will this automatically
correct what I setup in drakeconf...overide it persay...?
   
"Pittman, Merle" wrote:

 If you are josting the webserver on your own linux box and just
 using
 myip.org to use a DNS, do the following.
 Remove "namevirtualhost" from your httpd.conf.  Also set server
 name to
your
 IP address.  Restart the httpd deamon (httpd) and it should be
 fine.
The
 ww.myip.com account that you setup takes care of the name
 resolution you
 cannot put that in your own server.  If you could you would not
 need to
be
 using a myip.com redirection.

 hope this helps.

  -Original Message-
  From: KompuKit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:45 PM
  To:   Mandrake Linux
  Subject:  [newbie] errors
 
  Here are my configs and error logs...
  can someone please tell me...whats wrong?
  trying to setup apache
  --
  KompuKit=
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  ICQ# 7110071
 
  HomePage:
  http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg
 
  Personal WebServer:
  http://kompukit.myip.org
 
  (does not run 24/7)
  KompuKit=  File: error_logFile:
 httpd.conf

   
--
KompuKit=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
ICQ# 7110071
   
HomePage:
http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg
   
Personal WebServer:
http://kompukit.myip.org
   
(does not run 24/7)
KompuKit=



Re: [newbie] errors

2000-03-13 Thread Kit

okay, this is what I did...I went into httpd.conf

and changed the servername to 216.41.122.89 (current ip),
then commented out namevirtualserver

then in inetd.conf ...instead of standalone...I inserted "inetd"
I then brought up a console...and gave the command " httpd"
then inserted my ip address into browser location bar
and walah...my site finally came up...
does that mean it's fixed...?  only thing the images don't show

"Pittman, Merle" wrote:
 
 your full ip, localhost, or 127.0.0.1 , any should work.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 4:40 PM
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  Re: [newbie] errors
 
  actually, I inserted my ip address...like this...
  122.214.41.*
  the first three numbers stay the same...so I just inserted a wildcard,
  for the 4th
  should I insert the whole ip address...or insert my localhost
  (127.0.0.1) addy?
 
  Kit wrote:
  
   Do you have ICQ...it would so much easier nad quicker...
   my uin# 7110071
  
   I edited them manually then rebooted...still get the same error...
   actaully commented those lines out...
   I'm using a dialup connectionwith external 33.6 modem
  
   "Pittman, Merle" wrote:
   
Edit the /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file manually would be quickest.
  Just
make the changes I mentioned.
   
Are you using dial up, cable, dsl, etc for access?  If you are using
  cable
or dsl, then eventhough these are often dynamic IP addessing (mine is)
  your
IP address very rarely changes.  I've had the same one for months.
   
If you are using dialup, it is a little harder.  This can change on
  every
connection.  I am not sure what you can do here.
   
there are some utils you can download that monitors your IP address
  and
tells you when it changes, you might find that useful.
   
Keep the questions coming, I'll help if I can.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: KompuKit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 3:16 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] errors


 The trouble with that is this...I need to have myip.org
  updated...with
 my dynamic
 ip...each time...how can I do this...? and do I do what you
  suggested
 inside linuxconf,
 or inside drakeconf/networking/servers/webservers...or do I just
  edit
 the httpd.conf file manually...if manually, will this automatically
 correct what I setup in drakeconf...overide it persay...?

 "Pittman, Merle" wrote:
 
  If you are josting the webserver on your own linux box and just
  using
  myip.org to use a DNS, do the following.
  Remove "namevirtualhost" from your httpd.conf.  Also set server
  name to
 your
  IP address.  Restart the httpd deamon (httpd) and it should be
  fine.
 The
  ww.myip.com account that you setup takes care of the name
  resolution you
  cannot put that in your own server.  If you could you would not
  need to
 be
  using a myip.com redirection.
 
  hope this helps.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: KompuKit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:45 PM
   To:   Mandrake Linux
   Subject:  [newbie] errors
  
   Here are my configs and error logs...
   can someone please tell me...whats wrong?
   trying to setup apache
   --
   KompuKit=
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   ICQ# 7110071
  
   HomePage:
   http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg
  
   Personal WebServer:
   http://kompukit.myip.org
  
   (does not run 24/7)
   KompuKit=  File: error_logFile:
  httpd.conf
 

 --
 KompuKit=
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ICQ# 7110071

 HomePage:
 http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg

 Personal WebServer:
 http://kompukit.myip.org

 (does not run 24/7)
 KompuKit=

-- 
KompuKit=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ICQ# 7110071

HomePage:
http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg

Personal WebServer:
http://kompukit.myip.org

(does not run 24/7)
KompuKit=



Re: [newbie] Permissions on a directory

2000-03-13 Thread Jon Hunter

Have you tried smbclient?  I have found it very helpful in the past.  If you
can

smbclient -L servername_here

and see something you at least know it is not a closed port on the router...

Ernie wrote:

 I'm having a hell of a time getting my win and lin machines networked, I
 know the networking is set up and working, I'm using an isdn router for
 internet access and I can get out with both machines, but then don't see
 each other, I can ping both from the other, but that's about it

 Ernie




Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Vic


 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??

Get the pci version I don't know about the isa one


 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.
 

Draxconf sucks I don't use it



 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake. I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.

Go into the /etc/inittab file and look for soemthing like this:

id:5:initdefault:

change the 5 into a 3


Sorry thats the best I can do right now.

Now hopefully someone who does not like my opinion will get
scraped the wrong way and belt out some info if they think its better
than what I said.

Then we will both know-- hehehe 

---

The only way to get info
from arrogant or stingy people is to act like you know everything,
then when they correct you, you get what you wanted from them
anyway.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Art Richardson mewed:

lease someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art



Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Rial Juan


Kiddo,

before you even start THINKING about running linux, you must be well aware that
it's a pretty hard OS to master for those with absolutely no technical
background. Linux is an operating system that tries to hide nothing for the
user, unlike MS Windows. If you have no basic understanding of how a computer
works, and I don't mean knowing your way around in WordPerfect or something like
that, I mean: how a computer works internally, well, if you don't have a basic
understanding about that, then linux is not for you. Also, what's that stupid
remark about "too much technical jargon" anyway? This is a hacker's OS, what did
you expect? If it's too technical for you, well... Nobody forces you to run it.

What pisses me off the most is people who don't even know how to upgrade their
graphics card, insist on running linux because they heard some hype about it,
and then get all frustrated when it's not as easy as baking an egg.

Also, nobody cares to read manuals anymore. Everybody on this list claims to
have read all the apropriate manuals/docs, but found nothing, so they ask here.
And then they expect us "guru's" to solve their problems. Meanwhile the thing
they're asking is usually explained in detail somewhere between the second and
seventh paragraph in the man-page of the program that's causing them trouble.
But that means they have to type in "man rpm" or something, and that's too
hard. I wonder what the heck makes people decide to run linux anyway, if reading
some documentation is too hard, or too much to ask?

I for one don't even bother answering questions to which the answers are
trivial, or easy to look up. I have enough work looking up the solutions to my
own problems.

Kit: "noone wants to help..." Now let's say you sell your car. Someone comes
over and buys it. Then a week later he's at your door again. "How do I shift up
or down?" -- "Manual page 15 and where the heck did you get your driver's
license?" Then 3 days later he comes back "And how about reverse, does my car
have one?" -- "Still manual page 15, and of course it has one, you moron!" Then
4 days later he comes back "How do I turn on the radio?" -- "Explained on page
4 in the radio manual. Never seen an on/off swicth before?" Then a few days
later "I heard rumours that you can slide the seat to the front or back so you
can reach the pedals better. Is that true? Is it worth the effort? Won't it
degrade the lateral tire-pressure? My feet won't get stuck in the engine, will
they?"

I think you'd grabbed a big gun by the third time the dude comes over, shot the
bastard trough the head, hid the body, and sold the car again. This time to
someone with an IQ higher than that of a carrot.

On Mar 13 Kit wrote:

 BOY, I agree...with you BIGTIME...noone wants to help...they just
 want to 
 tell you to go somewhere and read...well, thats what I've been
 doing...and doing
 and doing...but it still does no good...most all tutorials are
 very poorly written.
 they use too much technical jargon...they don't remember that
 HELP means you must
 help them on the persons level of understanding...if they had
 technical knowlegdge,
 they wouldn't be asking questions...they would of fix their own
 problem...man, what 
 a bunch of dum people...for knowing so much as they do...
 

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Re: RE: [newbie] Crystal Chipset NetGear irq(?) conflict

2000-03-13 Thread tymanthius

Actually, what I did was simpler.  I remembered that after a format the system 
has sound, but as it locks in the install if I try to set up the network I skip 
that part.

So I then boot to linux, and have sound.  I then set up the network and no 
sound..  My solution was simple - take the eth0 out the boot process and put 
the command 'ifup eth0' in rc.local(?).  

That works.  I have sound and ethernet before I can log in.  I'm happy.

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Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread Vidyut Luther

I'd like to take this moment, and point this letter as the poster child for
what NOT to do when someone asks a question. Sure in my previous email I had
said that I have a life and that I get a lot messages, and sometimes I don't
respond to messages on mailing lists. But I followed up with some answers.
I'm not saying that I am the Martha Stewart(or moderator) of this mailing
list, but since this list is for newbies, and since I joined this list, not
because I'm a newbie, but because I was once a newbie, and I want to help
the newbies. Obviously if everyone here was a newbie, then not a lot of help
would be offered here. (imagine, 3 illiterate people, trying to teach each
other how to read and write.. sure they would probably come up with their
own alphabet, but it won't be anything to what everyone else uses).

 I for one don't even bother answering questions to which the answers are
 trivial, or easy to look up. I have enough work looking up the solutions
to my
 own problems.


Rial, if you're IQ really was higher than that of a carrot, you wouldn't
have wasted your so called valuable time, which you spend trying to solve
your own  problems, by writing this letter.

 What pisses me off the most is people who don't even know how to upgrade
their
 graphics card, insist on running linux because they heard some hype about
it,
 and then get all frustrated when it's not as easy as baking an egg.

I have no clue how to bake an egg. What comes easy to you, may not come easy
to others, I can install slackware 7.0 in less than 15 minutes on a machine,
yet installing debian, or freebsd, or even mandrake would take me 30-40
minutes. Just because someone else can't install slack in 15 minutes,
doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
Why did you pick up Linux ? I'm sure you heard about it from someone else,
who told you how great it was.. guess what.. just because that person wasn't
part of a big News agency, doesn't mean you didn't buy into the hype. He
hyped it, you bought it and you installed it.

 Also, nobody cares to read manuals anymore. Everybody on this list claims
to
 have read all the apropriate manuals/docs, but found nothing, so they ask
here.
 And then they expect us "guru's" to solve their problems. Meanwhile the
thing
 they're asking is usually explained in detail somewhere between the second
and
 seventh paragraph in the man-page of the program that's causing them
trouble.
 But that means they have to type in "man rpm" or something, and that's too
 hard. I wonder what the heck makes people decide to run linux anyway, if
reading
 some documentation is too hard, or too much to ask?

Just because you are armed with a ton of books, doesn't mean you know which
book is appropriate for your current problem.
Say you're a 16year old kid bent on getting a drivers license, and want to
be trained by a school. How do you know which school to pick ?
no one can force you to pick a school, but you decide to pick one, after
doing some research.. this research usually involves talking to other people
who in turn will give you their opinions on school's they've been to. The
more people you talk to , the more schools you'll hear about. How do you
know which one is the right one ?
say you do decide to go with one school that a friend recommend, but that
school wasn't as great as you thought ? the instructor didn't speak english.
? My point here is that,

.1. Just because there's so much documentation about Linux, doesn't mean
it's all good. I'll take the phrase from Perl, "theres more than one way to
do it", my answers to do things differed from
the answers of others, everyone said go into /etc/inittab and change the
initrd to 3 instead of 5, Guess what, I learn't something new there. I would
always have gone into /etc/rc.d to turn it off.
Now Art may find my way of doing it easier than editing the innittab. maybe
he's new to Linux, and isn't familiar with vi, now he stands a chance of
really screwing up his boot scripts, maybe he found my answer too hard, and
liked the innittab answer. In the end he knows more than he did before he
asked the question.

With your response, the only thing he knows now is that Linux users don't
want to help him, and want to be part of some exclusive club. He gets a bad
impression of the Linux community, and goes and tells all his friends. Who
in turn think that the entire Linux community is made up of immature people
like you.

 Kit: "noone wants to help..." Now let's say you sell your car. Someone
comes
 over and buys it. Then a week later he's at your door again. "How do I
shift up
 or down?" -- "Manual page 15 and where the heck did you get your driver's
 license?" Then 3 days later he comes back "And how about reverse, does my
car
 (and so on...).

Art seems to have asked 3 questions, to which he hadn't recieved an answer
earlier. Comparing him to your
car customer is unfair and stupid. Just because you answered the same
question 200 times to 200 different people, doesn't mean that they 

Re: [newbie] (OT) I wonder ...

2000-03-13 Thread james Mellema

Vidyut Luther wrote:
 
 it's a known fact, hotmail runs on freebsd + solaris, some parts of hotmail
 run on NT, I don't care how evil MS is.. they aren't stupid.. they use what
 they need to use to keep things up.
 for some things NT is just fine and dandy, and for some NT isn't. the real
 question is.. does MS use IIS on their NT boxes ? or do they use Apache ?
 :).
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Tom Berger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 12:26 PM
 Subject: [newbie] (OT) I wonder ...
 
  ... which OS runs Microsoft's servers:
 
 
 http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.microsoft.comExamine=Wait..
 
  Sorry, couldn't determine what the server was for host
  www.microsoft.com on port 80.
 
  Tried some other big sites - nobody hides the OS they're running. Just MS.
snip

Just went to netfind they said www.microsoft.com is running microsoft
-IIS/5.0 on windows 2000. 

Was I surprised...no, disappointed...yes. But then maybe that's why the
site is down so often.


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[newbie] 2 questions for you

2000-03-13 Thread Cory Hirano

Hello there]

I have two questions 1st How do I uninstall a desktop replacements? because
I want to upgrade to the latest version of IceWM but it conflicts with the
"light" version already installed.  2nd how do I install the isapnp file
needed to install Lothar so I can upgrade to the latest version?

Cory



Re: [newbie] (OT) I wonder ...

2000-03-13 Thread Michael Dowling

Well, they've fixed it now:

www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000  
  


On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:26:14 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ... which OS runs Microsoft's servers:
  
 
http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.microsoft.comExamine=Wait..
  
  Sorry, couldn't determine what the server was for host
  www.microsoft.com on port 80.
  
  Tried some other big sites - nobody hides the OS they're running. Just
MS.
  Makes you think...
  
  Nevermind
  
  tom
  
  -- 
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  http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


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Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit

GREAT COMEBACK...love it...

Vidyut Luther wrote:
 
 I'd like to take this moment, and point this letter as the poster child for
 what NOT to do when someone asks a question. Sure in my previous email I had
 said that I have a life and that I get a lot messages, and sometimes I don't
 respond to messages on mailing lists. But I followed up with some answers.
 I'm not saying that I am the Martha Stewart(or moderator) of this mailing
 list, but since this list is for newbies, and since I joined this list, not
 because I'm a newbie, but because I was once a newbie, and I want to help
 the newbies. Obviously if everyone here was a newbie, then not a lot of help
 would be offered here. (imagine, 3 illiterate people, trying to teach each
 other how to read and write.. sure they would probably come up with their
 own alphabet, but it won't be anything to what everyone else uses).
 
  I for one don't even bother answering questions to which the answers are
  trivial, or easy to look up. I have enough work looking up the solutions
 to my
  own problems.
 
 Rial, if you're IQ really was higher than that of a carrot, you wouldn't
 have wasted your so called valuable time, which you spend trying to solve
 your own  problems, by writing this letter.
 
  What pisses me off the most is people who don't even know how to upgrade
 their
  graphics card, insist on running linux because they heard some hype about
 it,
  and then get all frustrated when it's not as easy as baking an egg.
 
 I have no clue how to bake an egg. What comes easy to you, may not come easy
 to others, I can install slackware 7.0 in less than 15 minutes on a machine,
 yet installing debian, or freebsd, or even mandrake would take me 30-40
 minutes. Just because someone else can't install slack in 15 minutes,
 doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
 Why did you pick up Linux ? I'm sure you heard about it from someone else,
 who told you how great it was.. guess what.. just because that person wasn't
 part of a big News agency, doesn't mean you didn't buy into the hype. He
 hyped it, you bought it and you installed it.
 
  Also, nobody cares to read manuals anymore. Everybody on this list claims
 to
  have read all the apropriate manuals/docs, but found nothing, so they ask
 here.
  And then they expect us "guru's" to solve their problems. Meanwhile the
 thing
  they're asking is usually explained in detail somewhere between the second
 and
  seventh paragraph in the man-page of the program that's causing them
 trouble.
  But that means they have to type in "man rpm" or something, and that's too
  hard. I wonder what the heck makes people decide to run linux anyway, if
 reading
  some documentation is too hard, or too much to ask?
 
 Just because you are armed with a ton of books, doesn't mean you know which
 book is appropriate for your current problem.
 Say you're a 16year old kid bent on getting a drivers license, and want to
 be trained by a school. How do you know which school to pick ?
 no one can force you to pick a school, but you decide to pick one, after
 doing some research.. this research usually involves talking to other people
 who in turn will give you their opinions on school's they've been to. The
 more people you talk to , the more schools you'll hear about. How do you
 know which one is the right one ?
 say you do decide to go with one school that a friend recommend, but that
 school wasn't as great as you thought ? the instructor didn't speak english.
 ? My point here is that,
 
 .1. Just because there's so much documentation about Linux, doesn't mean
 it's all good. I'll take the phrase from Perl, "theres more than one way to
 do it", my answers to do things differed from
 the answers of others, everyone said go into /etc/inittab and change the
 initrd to 3 instead of 5, Guess what, I learn't something new there. I would
 always have gone into /etc/rc.d to turn it off.
 Now Art may find my way of doing it easier than editing the innittab. maybe
 he's new to Linux, and isn't familiar with vi, now he stands a chance of
 really screwing up his boot scripts, maybe he found my answer too hard, and
 liked the innittab answer. In the end he knows more than he did before he
 asked the question.
 
 With your response, the only thing he knows now is that Linux users don't
 want to help him, and want to be part of some exclusive club. He gets a bad
 impression of the Linux community, and goes and tells all his friends. Who
 in turn think that the entire Linux community is made up of immature people
 like you.
 
  Kit: "noone wants to help..." Now let's say you sell your car. Someone
 comes
  over and buys it. Then a week later he's at your door again. "How do I
 shift up
  or down?" -- "Manual page 15 and where the heck did you get your driver's
  license?" Then 3 days later he comes back "And how about reverse, does my
 car
  (and so on...).
 
 Art seems to have asked 3 questions, to which he hadn't recieved an answer
 earlier. Comparing him 

[newbie] Mouse cursor is an opaque white square block

2000-03-13 Thread vazrik varpet

On Mandrake 7
X11R6 3.3.6

Mouse cursor is just an square block with dimensions
seemingly the same as the icon blocks.  

I tried:
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr -bg\#00 -fg\#ff
but that did not solve the problem. 

I do get a full screen mouse cursor with:
xfd -fn cursor

Please help me in solving this annoying problem.

Thanks in advance,

Vazrik
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[newbie] you need to look at yourself...

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit



YOU are still missing the point...here...just look at what you said
below...
I did all the reading...and still need a walkthru...you are
contradicting yourself...
all over the place...yes God helps those who help themselves...well, I
did try to help
myself...been doing so over a week now..but do you realise...that God
USES people
to help those, who did try to help themselves...don't you realise
this...fact?
God sends people to help OTHERS in need...thats how He helps you...


" But, the point is, newbie or not, we don't like to help people whom we
regard as
lazy bums who rather bug us with their questions, than to do a little
effort in
finding it out themselves. There's a saying that goes: "God helps those
who help
themselves", and although we're not God, we feel the same. "


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[newbie] Need help connecting to Net

2000-03-13 Thread Rob and Shelly



How do I get my modem to connect? It works fine in 
Win98,
but I can't get Linux to use my modem.
My modem is am ActionTec 56k pci internal 
modem.
It has documents that say that this modem is 
verified for Redhat 5.2 and 6.0. This should work with Mandrake 6.5 
right?
On my KDE desktop, I can also access my Win files, 
but not my modem?
Here is what I have done so far...
As root I went to my dev directory.
then I did the following command.
# ./MAKEDEV ttyS2 (my modem is on 
COM3)
then I did...
# ln -s /dev/ttyS2 /dev/modem/
#chmod 666 /dev/ttyS2
#chmod 666 /dev/modem
next I did...
# setserial /dev/modem uart 16550A port 0xd401 irq 
11
Then I went to set up my account in 
Kppp.
When I query modem, there is no 
responce.
I have even went to my /etc/rc.d/ directory and 
inserted the following line in my rc.local file as the last line in that 
file.
"set serial /dev/modem uart 16550A port 0xd401 irq 
11"

Well, I hope this is enough info for someone to 
help me with this.
Thanks,
Rob


[newbie]

2000-03-13 Thread Jaguar

Opinions are like a$$holes...everyone has one...this is a Linux list...not a
forum for venting how bad a day you had.  Please keep on LINUX content.

On to Linux content.
I think I broke my eth0 trying to setup my home network for sharing my cable
modem.  Neither NIC passes initialization, I have checked the settings in
DrakXConf. and both seem fine (correct MOD, IRQ/Port) but again...only my
3C509B is listed in Lothar, I know I have 2 NIC's...is this a bug that Lothar
is not displaying the second NIC?
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Re: [newbie] Where is the so called help???????

2000-03-13 Thread TRBishop

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, you wrote:
 You know you hear so much of the fact that if you have problems with Linux
 that there is a large group of people who are willing to help. Just be
 willing to do a little homework first and try to find the answer somewhere
 in all the how to's and other documentation. If you can't find anything that
 related to your problem just post your question in a newsgroup etc... and
 someone who possibly overcame the problem will help with a reply. Well for
 this newbie that has not been the case. I am not stupid, just inexperienced
 with Linux. I have posted questions in several  newsgroups, and in this
 newbie list and all I have gotten is a resounding wall of silence. Maybe my
 questions aren't interesting enough or maybe not technical enough for you to
 show the world that you are the smartest Linux guru on the planet. My
 girlfriend suggests that I post questions in her name and maybe that would
 stroke enough male ego's out there to get a response. So one last time
 before I just reformat the drive and just go back to windows, maybe one
 person who has been there will take a few minutes and write a reply .
 
 1) I have a 3Com 3c509b nic. I cannot get this card to install. I have been
 told that this card needs to have the PnP feature disabled to work properly.
 The machine that I am using for my Linux installation is the family computer
 and windows has to be on it for the rest of the family. What will disabling
 the PnP feature do to the windows side??
 
 2) I also cannot get Draxconf to work. From a post to this list I found that
 you must install the RPM and then it would work. After installing (I think I
 did, there was nothing that told me that it was installed) and when I click
 on the icon nothing happens. Maybe that's another reason I can't get my nic
 to work. I can't configure anything.
 
 3) Lastly, this may seem like a very stupid question but how do I turn off
 my x server and just use the bash shell? I mistakenly answered yes to the
 question to start the x server on startup when I was installing Mandrake. I
 am using KDE and the only exit I can find is the option that will shut the
 machine down.
 
 Please someone help. I know that Linux has a steep learning curve and from
 using it so far I like it a lot and would like to use it exclusively. I just
 have to get over these newbie problems. Thanks for listening
 Art

  Hiya,

   I'll do the best that I can..I'm no guru.
   1)  If you know the settings that Windows uses for your nic, then use the
utility that came with your card to disable pnp and set it manually.  This will
not disable it in Windows, but should bring it to life in Linux.  This is what
I had to do and all is well.  You will have to add the  i/o  and irq numbers to
whatever setup program you will use in Linux.  I am more familiar with SuSE, so
I guess it's Lothar(?) in Mandrake.
   2)  As far as Drakeconf goes,  if it is not installed, install it logged in
as root .  Installing the .rpm SHOULD do the trick..  You  can poke around
kpackage to see if it is indeed installed.  Sorry, not a lot of help here.
3) As root, you will have to edit the inittab file  ( /etc/inittab).  One
of the first lines in the file has something that looks like this:  id: 5 : 
etc, etc.  Change the 5 to a 3   change nothing else!  Save and exit.  You will
no longer be in graphic mode.  You could also leave all alone and type
Ctrl-Alt-F1 orF2 or F3, etc. to get to console mode without messing with
inittab.
  Hope this helps.  I know the frustration you have been feeling. ;-)   Tom



Re: [newbie] Need help connecting to Net

2000-03-13 Thread vazrik varpet


How did you get the info for the port and irq.  The
port number somehow does not look correct to me. 
cat /proc/devices and check to get the port number and
the irq from there, and then use it for the setserial
command. If you already have done it, then my
knowledge is exhausted! 

Once you do the setserial it will work for the
duration of the current boot.  That is why you should
put in the rc.d/... files to make it work on every
boot (as you have done so). 


--- Rob and Shelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I get my modem to connect? It works fine in
 Win98,
 but I can't get Linux to use my modem.
 My modem is am ActionTec 56k pci internal modem.
 It has documents that say that this modem is
 verified for Redhat 5.2 and 6.0. This should work
 with Mandrake 6.5 right?
 On my KDE desktop, I can also access my Win files,
 but not my modem?
 Here is what I have done so far...
 As root I went to my dev directory.
 then I did the following command.
 # ./MAKEDEV ttyS2  (my modem is on COM3)
 then I did...
 # ln -s /dev/ttyS2 /dev/modem/
 #chmod 666 /dev/ttyS2
 #chmod 666 /dev/modem
 next I did...
 # setserial /dev/modem uart 16550A port 0xd401 irq
 11
 Then I went to set up my account in Kppp.
 When I query modem, there is no responce.
 I have even went to my /etc/rc.d/ directory and
 inserted the following line in my rc.local file as
 the last line in that file.
 "set serial /dev/modem uart 16550A port 0xd401 irq
 11"
 
 Well, I hope this is enough info for someone to help
 me with this.
 Thanks,
 Rob
 
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[newbie] success....at last...

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit

Can't believe it...finally got my server working...with help from TOM
thankyou Tom 

Now, all I need is a script or someway to update my IP in the "
httpd.conf " file...
everytime I connect...anyone got any ideas...?

check out my server now...:
216.41.122.202

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[newbie] sorry,had to reboot

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit

216.41.122.58
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[newbie]

2000-03-13 Thread

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[newbie] Booting Another Mandrake

2000-03-13 Thread Lane Lester

Well, it's working. I can boot either of two separate Mandrake
installations with LILO.

The following line needed to be added to fstab, so that when "lilo -v"
compiles the code in the MBR, it can find the alternate kernel:
/dev/hda6 /mnt/mandrake2boot ext2 defaults 0 0

The stanza in lilo.conf that boots the alternate kernel is:
image = /mnt/mandrake2boot/vmlinuz
  label = m2
  vga = normal
  append = "mem=124M"
  root = /dev/hda7
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RE: [newbie] Mouse cursor is an opaque white square block

2000-03-13 Thread Lane Lester

 My name is Michael Bui and I have the same problem.
 I got a BIG WHITE block when I am in Xwindows.
 Is this one of the BUGS on version 7.0 of Mandrake Linux.

Not in my 7.0.2.
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Re: [newbie]

2000-03-13 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000,  mrbolty wrote:
 I seem to be on your mailing list and have been recieving hundreds of emails 
 and wish to be unscribed. Thank you very much.

go to 
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3
put in your e-mail address, select radio button for unsubscribe and click
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[newbie] Re: where is the so called help

2000-03-13 Thread Art Richardson

To everyone on the list

First, I would like to thank everyone who replied to my post. You help was
very much appreciated and I was able to solve two of my problems so far.
Secondly, when I wrote that post I was frustrated about my inability to
solve my problems. I like to consider myself somewhat technically proficient
and can usually solve the problems that I have come across. However, this
was in Windows and I guess that it's so dumbed down anyone can figure it
out. Linux is not like that, as you all know. Several years ago I had a 133
running Slackware. I never could get any form of x running but further
experimentation was put on hold due to a divorce. I had read several
articles complimentary to the Mandrake distribution. I went out and bought
the 6.5 version and got everything going except the nic card. I was amazed
that it went so well! But as hard as I tried, I could not get the blankety -
blank nic card running. I checked 3Com and their documentation was oriented
toward the PCI version and not the ISA version which I have. I tried the Don
Becker page and really didn't understand it to well except it seemed to
imply that I needed to add a driver and recompile the kernel.
Not wanting to do that I thought that I would just upgrade to 7.0 and maybe
that would cure my nic card problem. I have a cable connection and I
downloaded the distribution from a Mandrake FTP mirror. After several tries
to install it, I got it to install. Once again the install could not find
the nic card. It was listed in the install configuration setup but no joy.
This is when I went off the deep end and wrote my now infamous post. I got a
lot of great information. To solve the logging out problem and the Draxconf
not installed, I just reinstalled the distribution again and this time I
used the expert mode. I set x not to start at login and Draxconf installed
ok.
You all know what is coming next. That's right, no nic card. So after
visiting several newsgroups and re-reading the posts to this list I edited
the /etc/conf.modules file. I added the line  Options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=9
I got the parameters from windows and again no joy. I am at the point where
I am going to disable the PnP setting on the card. If this does not work I
am going to check the supported cards at the Redhat site and get another
card.
Again, thanks for not flaming me too much. I'll let everyone know how it
went

Art






Re: [newbie] Mouse cursor is an opaque white square block

2000-03-13 Thread nodyak0

Well, well, well, others are having problems as well as myself.  Nice to
know I am not the only one!!!  No, I am not happy you are having
problems, just glad I am not alone.  

I have installed Linux/Mandrake Complete 7.0 about 9 different times. 
For one thing to see what happens when you use different methods of
installing.  Well, to make a long story longer, I tried the Lnx4Win
installation and it runs very www.  Using the Power Quest
BTMagic runs faster but still is not as fast as using 'LILO'.  Also when
you use the BTMagic if you are to uninstall you have to 'Disable' it
before you can remove it by any method, except just the old fashion way
of DEL on the folder.  That is not a good method though.  I used the
Power Quest Partition Magic, and I cannot say enough about how well it
performs there were no problems while I did all of this reinstalling, and
then did my Boot from the CD and installed using 'Custom' and then
'Normal' so I can have a dual boot system.  I had UGH Windows boot as
default for a few times then changed it to Linux.  I have an AMD K6-II
350Meg 3D Sound/w 32meg RAM PCCHIPS PC100 MOBO.  Enough on my CHEAPPYY
CPU.  Back to Linux/Mandrake, I have not had any probs with any of my
installs, except if I left any of the PACKAGES out of the install they
were installed just the same.  The Selection process is of no use, they
install what ever they want.  I have had some FREEZES and had to use the
Old fashion method of regaining control by Pussshhhinngg the RESET button
on the front of the TOWER case.  The last time I did that the 'nfslock'
has FAILED and given me a error of 101 during the Linux install and
booting up process.  Even when running the linuxconf --status or
linuxconf --update all that shows is:

"/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S60nfslock restart
*The command takes more than 15 seconds to execute.
odd"

Have also looked at the "Service nfslock" and "Pachage Info" which are no
help either.

Have not been able to determine how to reset this function so I loose the
FAILED and reactivate this function. 

Any Ideas?

Thanks for reading this rambling mess and good luck on your systems as
well.

don

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Re: [newbie] Re: where is the so called help

2000-03-13 Thread nodyak0

In my experiences with the install of Mandrake Complete 7.0 the PNP
should be set to disable in the CMOS prior to doing the install.

don

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But now I know that what I thought I knew
Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.


On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:52:37 -0500 "Art Richardson"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 To everyone on the list
 
   First, I would like to thank everyone who replied to my 
 post. You help was
 very much appreciated and I was able to solve two of my problems so 
 far.
 Secondly, when I wrote that post I was frustrated about my inability 
 to
 solve my problems. I like to consider myself somewhat technically 
 proficient
 and can usually solve the problems that I have come across. However, 
 this
 was in Windows and I guess that it's so dumbed down anyone can 
 figure it
 out. Linux is not like that, as you all know. Several years ago I 
 had a 133
 running Slackware. I never could get any form of x running but 
 further
 experimentation was put on hold due to a divorce. I had read several
 articles complimentary to the Mandrake distribution. I went out and 
 bought
 the 6.5 version and got everything going except the nic card. I was 
 amazed
 that it went so well! But as hard as I tried, I could not get the 
 blankety -
 blank nic card running. I checked 3Com and their documentation was 
 oriented
 toward the PCI version and not the ISA version which I have. I tried 
 the Don
 Becker page and really didn't understand it to well except it seemed 
 to
 imply that I needed to add a driver and recompile the kernel.
 Not wanting to do that I thought that I would just upgrade to 7.0 
 and maybe
 that would cure my nic card problem. I have a cable connection and I
 downloaded the distribution from a Mandrake FTP mirror. After 
 several tries
 to install it, I got it to install. Once again the install could not 
 find
 the nic card. It was listed in the install configuration setup but 
 no joy.
 This is when I went off the deep end and wrote my now infamous post. 
 I got a
 lot of great information. To solve the logging out problem and the 
 Draxconf
 not installed, I just reinstalled the distribution again and this 
 time I
 used the expert mode. I set x not to start at login and Draxconf 
 installed
 ok.
 You all know what is coming next. That's right, no nic card. So 
 after
 visiting several newsgroups and re-reading the posts to this list I 
 edited
 the /etc/conf.modules file. I added the line  Options 3c509 io=0x210 
 irq=9
 I got the parameters from windows and again no joy. I am at the 
 point where
 I am going to disable the PnP setting on the card. If this does not 
 work I
 am going to check the supported cards at the Redhat site and get 
 another
 card.
 Again, thanks for not flaming me too much. I'll let everyone know 
 how it
 went
 
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Re: [newbie] Kppp problem please help!!!!!!!!

2000-03-13 Thread Ralph F. De Witt

I had a simular problem.  For me the answer was to have the ISP give me another
dial up number connected to a different back bone.  The problem you are
expereancing is a very slow connection and you are timing out.  You need to
work with your ISP to get a faster dial up response time from them.

Ralph


On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, you wrote:
 Here is my log
 
   MODEM READY
   MODEM INITIALIZING
  ATZ
  OK
  ATMOLO
  OK
  ATDT4792004
   DIALING 479-2004
  CONNECT 48000 V42bis
   LOGGING ONTO NETWORK
 
 I THEN GET THE FOLLOWING ERROR MESSAGE
 
   Timeout expired while waiting for the PPP interface 
   to come up!
 
 
 
 
 --- Mike Koceja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One thing i forgot to mention was the fact that i
  can
  get online using network configurator-PPP/SLIP/PLIP.
  I
  don't mind connection this way it's just that i have
  to have 4 windows open and i don't know what speed I
  am connected at.
  
  --- Lance Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mike Koceja wrote:

Okay here is the problem. I configured
   kppp without
any problems and it dials and connects to my ISP
   just
fine. Right up until right after it tells me
  what
speed I am connected at. At this point it tries
  to
logon to a network when it fails so does ppp.
  I'm
   sure
whatever is wrong is minor. PLEASE Someone
   help me out
   
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RE: [newbie] Music Composer?

2000-03-13 Thread Seth Gibson

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote:
 Thanks. I was hoping someone could give me a lead on some software available
 commercially since, at the moment, I don't have Internet access other than
 email.
 
http://linux.com/columns.phtml?sid=94aid=7619

That mentions some different packages.  I think youre gonna be out of luck as
far as commercial pakcages.  I believe Logic and Nuendo are going to hit BeOS
but no word for linux. . .



Re: [newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread Ed Negari

I noticed that the /etc/login.defs file in Slackware has this line:

MOTD_FILE/etc/motd

Can't seem to find this in Mandrake though... the /etc/login.defs is a lot
shorter.

-Ed

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, KompuKit wrote:

 I'd like to know this also...
 I need a mail notify program...
 
 Ed Negari wrote:
  
  Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
  checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
  directory) but can't seem to find it.
  
  -Ed
 
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Re: [newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread Alan Shoemaker

EdI use K(menu)-Internet-Biff in KDE.

Alan


KompuKit wrote:
 
 I'd like to know this also...
 I need a mail notify program...
 
 Ed Negari wrote:
 
  Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
  checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
  directory) but can't seem to find it.
 
  -Ed
 
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[newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread Ed Negari

Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
directory) but can't seem to find it.


-Ed



Re: [newbie] starting kppp automatically

2000-03-13 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

Tom Berger wrote:

 On 13-Mar-2000 Gary K Stinnett Jr wrote:
  Tom Berger wrote:
 
  On 12-Mar-2000 Gary K Stinnett Jr wrote:
   I got perlseti running this weekend on my ML 7.02 box.  I use KPPP to
   dial into the internet.  Can anyone give me some info on how I can
   automatically connect to the internet so I can keep seti running all of
   the time.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Later
  
   Gary
 
  Create a new application icon in the Autostart folder. Supply this
  commandline:
 
  kppp -c [accountname]
 
  That should do.
 
  tom
 
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  http://www.mandrakeuser.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Let me get this right.
  1. Create a new icon under Autostart,  'I called it seti autostart kppp'
  2. Under the Execute tab of properties for my new icon I should put 'kppp
  -c
  [accountname]'
 
  I'm quite the newbie!  What does accountname stand for?  What should I put
  for
  accountname?

 The name for the account you have given in kppp's Setup.

  Also, will this start kppp and dial into the internet when I complete a seti
  packet?

 No. This will dial up as soon as you start KDE. What you want would involve
 some heavy scripting. So if this isn't implemented in the program itself, you
 are out of luck, I'm afraid. Have a look at the docs of the program if they
 mention something like this.

 tom

  Thanks,
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connects for Linux and for the kid's windows machine on the LAN.
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Re: [newbie] Re: where is the so called help

2000-03-13 Thread Tony Alfrey

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Art Richardson wrote:
 To everyone on the list
 
   First, I would like to thank everyone who replied to my post. 

We're glad that you had some success!

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[newbie] Q re: HDD

2000-03-13 Thread Wayne

I have a question regarding my hard disks.  After some trouble trying to cfdisk
my HD this morning, Linux wouldn't work and I had to reinstall it.  It has
picked up the hard disk I partitioned to give me 3 gig of space to use for
personal files etc and has mounted it is /home.  Does this mean when ever I do
a cd /home this is where it takes me?  If not, how do I access this disk to
store files on and install programs on it etc?  If this is the case, is my
entire home directory on this 3 gig disk and is it mine to do with as I please?

Wayne



Re: [newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread Ed Negari

I guess I should've said this earlier - the reason why I'm asking is so
that I can change the order in which things show up. First, I want the
motd, then the output of "fortune", and LAST, the "You have mail". No one
uses KDE on this machine - everyone logs in remotely.

I know the whole thing is extremely trivial - I guess it's just more
important that I know where everything is and how it runs.

-Ed

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

 EdI use K(menu)-Internet-Biff in KDE.
 
 Alan
 
 
 KompuKit wrote:
  
  I'd like to know this also...
  I need a mail notify program...
  
  Ed Negari wrote:
  
   Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
   checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
   directory) but can't seem to find it.
  
   -Ed
  
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Re: [newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta


The  contents of /etc/motd are displayed by login(1) after a suc­
cessful login but just before it executes the login shell.

not sure about the You have mail thing tho


Ed Negari wrote:
 
 Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
 checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
 directory) but can't seem to find it.
 
 -Ed



Re: [newbie] Q re: HDD

2000-03-13 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Wayneif you cd /home that's where you will go.  Any user
account you add to the system (as root) will have their home
directory created as a subdirectory in that /home directory and
that is where your unprivileged user account is (if you have
one).  Root's home directory is not in the /home directory
though, it is in /root (not actually in /root as it IS /root). 
So if you have an unprivileged user account and there are no
other user accounts then yes, /home is all yours.  I hope that
answered the question.

Alan


Wayne wrote:
 
 I have a question regarding my hard disks.  After some trouble trying to cfdisk
 my HD this morning, Linux wouldn't work and I had to reinstall it.  It has
 picked up the hard disk I partitioned to give me 3 gig of space to use for
 personal files etc and has mounted it is /home.  Does this mean when ever I do
 a cd /home this is where it takes me?  If not, how do I access this disk to
 store files on and install programs on it etc?  If this is the case, is my
 entire home directory on this 3 gig disk and is it mine to do with as I please?
 
 Wayne



Re: [newbie] Q re: HDD

2000-03-13 Thread Michael Dowling

If you have a 3GB partition mounted as /home, then a cd/home will indeed
take you there.  Note, though, that your (non-root) user startup directory
will be /home/username, so it is also on the 3GB partition.  Underneath
that startup directory will be a lot of configuration files (for Netscape,
Gimp, KDE, etc.) which should be handled with care.

Programs are normally stored under /usr or /opt, though, so you should make
certain you have sufficient space for these directories.

Other than that, yes, the whole 3GB is yours to do with as you wish


On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:27:02 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a question regarding my hard disks.  After some trouble trying to
cfdisk
  my HD this morning, Linux wouldn't work and I had to reinstall it.  It
has
  picked up the hard disk I partitioned to give me 3 gig of space to use
for
  personal files etc and has mounted it is /home.  Does this mean when ever
I do
  a cd /home this is where it takes me?  If not, how do I access this disk
to
  store files on and install programs on it etc?  If this is the case, is
my
  entire home directory on this 3 gig disk and is it mine to do with as I
please?
  
  Wayne


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Re: [newbie] Re: where is the so called help

2000-03-13 Thread Vic

I used the PCI nic I made sure of it. RedHat 6.1 I could not get to
connect to the internet but Mandrake 7 did


On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Art Richardson mewed:
 To everyone on the list
 
   First, I would like to thank everyone who replied to my post. You help was
 very much appreciated and I was able to solve two of my problems so far.
 Secondly, when I wrote that post I was frustrated about my inability to
 solve my problems. I like to consider myself somewhat technically proficient
 and can usually solve the problems that I have come across. However, this
 was in Windows and I guess that it's so dumbed down anyone can figure it
 out. Linux is not like that, as you all know. Several years ago I had a 133
 running Slackware. I never could get any form of x running but further
 experimentation was put on hold due to a divorce. I had read several
 articles complimentary to the Mandrake distribution. I went out and bought
 the 6.5 version and got everything going except the nic card. I was amazed
 that it went so well! But as hard as I tried, I could not get the blankety -
 blank nic card running. I checked 3Com and their documentation was oriented
 toward the PCI version and not the ISA version which I have. I tried the Don
 Becker page and really didn't understand it to well except it seemed to
 imply that I needed to add a driver and recompile the kernel.
 Not wanting to do that I thought that I would just upgrade to 7.0 and maybe
 that would cure my nic card problem. I have a cable connection and I
 downloaded the distribution from a Mandrake FTP mirror. After several tries
 to install it, I got it to install. Once again the install could not find
 the nic card. It was listed in the install configuration setup but no joy.
 This is when I went off the deep end and wrote my now infamous post. I got a
 lot of great information. To solve the logging out problem and the Draxconf
 not installed, I just reinstalled the distribution again and this time I
 used the expert mode. I set x not to start at login and Draxconf installed
 ok.
 You all know what is coming next. That's right, no nic card. So after
 visiting several newsgroups and re-reading the posts to this list I edited
 the /etc/conf.modules file. I added the line  Options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=9
 I got the parameters from windows and again no joy. I am at the point where
 I am going to disable the PnP setting on the card. If this does not work I
 am going to check the supported cards at the Redhat site and get another
 card.
 Again, thanks for not flaming me too much. I'll let everyone know how it
 went
 
 Art



[newbie] where's the counter

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit

where's the counter for apache...
to use on websites...?
doesn't it have one? or do I need to get
a script...?
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Re: [newbie] startup scripts

2000-03-13 Thread KompuKit

I'd like to know this also...
I need a mail notify program...

Ed Negari wrote:
 
 Which login script displays the /etc/motd and says "You have mail"? I
 checked the /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (and the rest of the /etc
 directory) but can't seem to find it.
 
 -Ed

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Re: [newbie] Q re: HDD

2000-03-13 Thread Wayne Petherick

Alan,
thanks for the tip. I guess that is what another subscriber was
referring to as allocating X MB for /home, X MB for /usr etc etc...I
didn't know you could do that with Linux.

Also, whilst I have the soapbox, I would just like to say there has been
some flaming going on about people asking questions that might be
provided in the documentation. Some of the docs with Linux are
obscure and written by Linux gurus and therefore hard to read and
understand for us newbies. I am a one time computer
tech from Dos/Windows days and still have trouble understanding much
Linux stuff. I have been using it full time for over a week now and
have come to appreciate the power and versatility of the OS and will make
a total migration to it for everything but games (for obvious
reasons). I love it, it works well , and on the odd occasion it
does hang, just type xkill and away you go. Not like
Wind'ohs.. 
Any more advanced users out there, just tolerate my spupidity and other
stupidity like it for a while and eventually we will be teaching the new
users to the list what you have taught us.

Alan,
thanks again so much for the tip. It answered my Q exactly.

Wayne






Re: [newbie] Q re: HDD

2000-03-13 Thread Vic

Dude, what are all those little nbsp thingies in your e mail?


On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Wayne Petherick mewed:
 html
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 provided in the documentation.nbsp; Some of the docs with Linux are
 obscure and written by Linux gurus and therefore hard to read and
 understand for us quot;newbiesquot;.nbsp; I am a one time computer
 tech from Dos/Windows days and still have trouble understanding much
 Linux stuff.nbsp; I have been using it full time for over a week now and
 have come to appreciate the power and versatility of the OS and will make
 a total migration to it for everything but games (for obvious
 reasons).nbsp; I love it, it works well , and on the odd occasion it
 does hang, just type xkill and away you go.nbsp; Not like
 Wind'ohs..nbsp; br
 Any more advanced users out there, just tolerate my spupidity and other
 stupidity like it for a while and eventually we will be teaching the new
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[newbie] start imwheel automatically

2000-03-13 Thread Claus Atzenbeck

Hello,

what can I do in order to avoid typing "imwheel -k" after every
reboot? I want it to be started regardless which user is loggin in. It
seems that there is no appropriate startup service for this.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Claus.

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Re: [newbie] start imwheel automatically

2000-03-13 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Clausin KDE there's an Autostart directory on your Desktop
that is analogous to the Windows Startup directory (works pretty
much the same).

Alan


Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 what can I do in order to avoid typing "imwheel -k" after every
 reboot? I want it to be started regardless which user is loggin in. It
 seems that there is no appropriate startup service for this.
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 Regards,
 Claus.
 
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Re: [newbie] start imwheel automatically

2000-03-13 Thread Eunice Thompson

Here's an excerpt from a post dated 3/6/00 from the 'alt.os.mandrake'
newsgroup, that I used to get mine working

...Now you need to create a link in your KDE Autostart folder which is on
 your desktop to 'imwheel'. Do this by opening the Autostart folder,
 right click in the window and select 'new' and 'application'. Change the
 name from 'program' to 'imwheel.kdelnk' and click 'OK'. Then click on
 'Execute' and then browse to /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel and then click 'OK'
 and then click 'OK' again, close Autostart and you're done!

 Reboot and you should have your wheel mouse working in netscape. Good
 luck!


- Original Message -
From: "Claus Atzenbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mandrake Listing" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 10:45 PM
Subject: [newbie] start imwheel automatically


 Hello,

 what can I do in order to avoid typing "imwheel -k" after every
 reboot? I want it to be started regardless which user is loggin in. It
 seems that there is no appropriate startup service for this.

 Thanks for your help!

 Regards,
 Claus.

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[newbie] Mandrake Problems

2000-03-13 Thread Jack

Hi,

  I just installed Mandrake 7.0 a few hours ago by using
my cdrom to boot the
  installation up.

  When I try to access any of my cds in the /mnt/cdrom,
it says it can't read the
  disk.
  I set the thing up properly  in the control panel it
says it's there, but won't
  read any of the disks, not even the cd I installed
Mandrake from!
  My floppy drive isn't working either.

  Please help, I love this O/S so far.

  Best Regards,
  Jack