Re: [newbie-it] Processo di stampa
Sebastiano Cordiano wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 18:21:41 +0200 Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C' e' un modo + semplice: con lpq controlli i jobs accodati e relativo pid con lprm pid rimuovi il job corrispondente. Ciao Scusate, ma non funziona semplicemente digitando ' localhost:631 ' nel Konqueror? Poi si seleziona ' Jobs ' e si killano tutti i lavori che si vuole. O no? Daniele Certo, e' la stessa cosa fatta tramite l' administration tool di Cups, ma qualcuno puo' non averlo (Cups) ;-) Il suo problema e` che forse il file e` gia` stato passato alla stampante e la coda svuotata. In quel caso, l'unica cosa e` spegnere e riaccendere la stampante per svuotarne la memoria. ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] VECCHIE VERSIONI DI MANDRAKE
ziotunello wrote: SALVE A TUTTI, VISTA LA PASSIONE PER MANDRAKE HO DECISO DI PROVARE AD INSTALLARE LINUX ANCHE SU UN VECCHIO PORTATILE CHE HO A CASA; E' UN 486 B/N CON 16 MEGA DI RAM E 1,5 GB DI HD. QUALCUNO DELLA MAILING LIST CONOSCE QUALCHE VERSIONE DI MANDRAKE CHE SI POTREBBE ADATTARE A QUESTO PORTATILE??? PURTROPPO NON HO IL SUPPORTO CD ROM, MA LA PARALLELA RICONOSCE TRANQUILLAMENTE SIA IOMEGA ZIP CHE UN CAVO INTERLINK GRAZIE ANTICIPATAMENTE E BUONE VACANZE A TUTTI ( PER CHI NE HA LA POSSIBILITA') ANDREA Per favore non URLARE. Ti sconsiglio la Mandrake per un 486 con 16MB di RAM. Con 16M il server X gira a fatica: e` meglio non provare neppure ad usare KDE o Gnome. Credo che l'ultima Mandrake compilata anche per 486 sia la 7.0 che trovi su pochissimi mirror e che devi scaricarti personalmente. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3#486 Io ti consiglierei una distro non ottimizzata per pentium e molto configurabile come Debian, potresti provare anche una RedHat-7.1. L'importante e` usare un window-manager leggero o, tra le GUI, al massimo xfce. ciao, Andrea
Re: Re: [newbie-it] VECCHIE VERSIONI DI MANDRAKE
ziotunello wrote: SALVE A TUTTI, VISTA LA PASSIONE PER MANDRAKE HO DECISO DI PROVARE AD INSTALLARE LINUX ANCHE SU UN VECCHIO PORTATILE CHE HO A CASA; E' UN 486 B/N CON 16 MEGA DI RAM E 1,5 GB DI HD. QUALCUNO DELLA MAILING LIST CONOSCE QUALCHE VERSIONE DI MANDRAKE CHE SI POTREBBE ADATTARE A QUESTO PORTATILE??? PURTROPPO NON HO IL SUPPORTO CD ROM, MA LA PARALLELA RICONOSCE TRANQUILLAMENTE SIA IOMEGA ZIP CHE UN CAVO INTERLINK GRAZIE ANTICIPATAMENTE E BUONE VACANZE A TUTTI ( PER CHI NE HA LA POSSIBILITA') ANDREA Per favore non URLARE. Ti sconsiglio la Mandrake per un 486 con 16MB di RAM. Con 16M il server X gira a fatica: e` meglio non provare neppure ad usare KDE o Gnome. Credo che l'ultima Mandrake compilata anche per 486 sia la 7.0 che trovi su pochissimi mirror e che devi scaricarti personalmente. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3#486 Io ti consiglierei una distro non ottimizzata per pentium e molto configurabile come Debian, potresti provare anche una RedHat-7.1. L'importante e` usare un window-manager leggero o, tra le GUI, al massimo xfce. ciao, Andrea Perchè mi hai inviato questa mail? Forse hai confuso soggetto o mail. Ciao - Salve, il messaggio che hai ricevuto è stato inviato per mezzo del sistema di web mail interfree. Se anche tu vuoi una casella di posta free visita il sito http://club.interfree.it Ti aspettiamo! -
[newbie] Mandrake80-inst.iso [install]
Hi All, I downloaded Mandrake Linux from www.linuxiso.org name of the file is Mandrake80-inst.iso. I thought after writing into CD-R ,it will automatically boot from CD for installtion.But when I start my PC with CDROM Boot option, It didn't boot from CD. 1.Could anyone please tell me how to make this CD bootable. In this same site I found one more file Mandrake80-ext.iso, is this file require for Mandrake installation? --Dinesh
Re: [newbie] System-wide environment variables?
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:01, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 08 July 2001 20:46, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Does anybody know how to get environment variables (like export...) working system-wide, that is, on the command line (BASH for me), in the log screens (e.g. on Ctrl-Alt-F12), and in X? I prefer to have X automatically load at startup (since it frees-up a console), but this means that I cannot take advantage of BASH's environment variables (configurable in ~/.bashrc and /etc/bashrc). I know I can load apps from a terminal, but I'd prefer to have something available throughout all of my X environment (for panel applets, etc.). I have placed my lines in /etc/X11/Xsession, but this doesn't appear to work anymore since I installed KDE 2.2 beta 1 (I use GNOME, though). Environment variables don't seem to work on the log screens (e.g. when you press Ctrl-Alt-F12) or for system processes (daemons, etc.), either. My system clock is set to UTC (i.e. Greenwich Mean TIme), and I use environment variables to enter my time zone settings so that the displayed time is correct (that way I can set my system time from an NTP server with ntpdate). It works fine in BASH, and as I mentioned above it used to work in X. Cron is always ten hours behind my local time (since I'm UTC +10h), and it can become annoying when it begins maintenence tasks during the day when I'm using the computer. Alternatively, is there a better solution to my setup? Any help would be much appreciated. /etc/profile is your friend I thought so too. I have already tried placing my lines in /etc/profile yet it doesn't seem to work as it should. Two lines I wish to execute are: # Enable QT Anti-Aliasing. export QT_XFT=1 # Enable Sun Java Plug-in. export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/java/jre1.3.1/plugin/i386/ns4/ Thanks for the response. Exporting QT_XFT=1 should enable anti-aliasing on any QT2 application I load (even non-KDE apps), despite the fact that I'm not using KDE as my desktop. This used to work fine when placed in /etc/X11/Xsession, for apps like Kmail, Konqueror and Opera. Nowadays, however, I am resorting to using shell scripts that export QT_XFT=1 before loading the required app. The second variable is necessary to enable Sun's Java plug-in (otherwise it won't work in Netscape). Any other ideas? TIA. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
RE: [newbie] samba security=domain
All I'm saying to you is that you are not able, or very unlikely to be able, to use your samba box as a domain master with an NT machine. This doesn't mean that you won't be able to have a share available between them. I can only say that I find NY Client particularly obstructive in this respect in that I can get the NT machine to browse the samba server and to use the samba server as a print server fairly effortlessly, even at the same time as the samba server is working as a domain log-on for Win 98 machines. Making the NT machine available to the samba box however is a whole different story though, as of course is having the NT box log on to a samba controlled domain. You actually only need a very limited smb.conf file to achieve this and you can do this using the supplied sample file if you wish. You mention that you have used the Samba manual for reference and this certainly contains all the information that you will require. Refernce to the gotchas file supplied is, sadly, very instructive in respect of domain log-on utility with NT machines ie there is none :o( If you are determined to have a samba controlled domain that will allow NT4 log-ons the the only advice I am able to give you is go to samba.org and d/l the latest version then compile it for your m/c. Remember the fault is not with the samba box but with the way that NT4 behaves. regards Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: SK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 July 2001 01:49 To: Daryl Johnson Subject: Re: [newbie] samba security=domain Hi! My current samba ver is samba-2.0.7-3. I need to join my samba with my nt4 server. Can you please guide what to do. I really need HELP because my date line is coming neer. Thank You Best Regards, SKLIM
Re: [newbie] CodeWeavers Wine Question.
There are plenty of Web sites out there that allow you to send free SMSs all around the world. SMS Send (http://zekiller.skytech.org/smssend_en.html) is an app that can interface with many of these sites to automate an SMS transmission. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:29, Juan Carlos Conde wrote: The Windows applications who wants to access to internet running under Codeweavers Wine will work, will access successfully to internet? I was trying to send an SMS with SMSFever. Also I want to know if there is any linux program to send SMS? Thanks. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Memory use
GNU/Linux uses spare RAM to cache your hard drive, the slowest part of any system. Generally, the more RAM you have the better, since you'll have a larger cache. However, I believe the law of diminishing returns would begin to kick in well before the 1300MB mark. This, of course depends on what you do with your system. If you do a lot of multimedia work, then a lot of RAM is essential. For ordinary web browsing and the like, this much RAM would make little difference. With that in mind, I don't think this much RAM could really harm your system, and RAM is quite cheap nowadays. However, if you plan to upgrade later you need to consider forwards-compatibility of the RAM. The newer Athlons are using DDR SDRAM, so any SDR SDRAM you have will become useless (you'd just be crippling your system if you used it). On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:54, Anguo wrote: 在 2001 七月 1 星期日 23:01，civileme 寫道: linux makes an effort to keep almost all memory in use all the time (figuring unused memory is wasted memory), so it often finds memory errors right away that windows would totally miss. Civileme Oh! You just replied a question I didn't ask! :-) I just bought a new box and insisted on having 256Mb RAM (against the advice of a friend who said 128Mb would be enough). After installing LM8.0, I noticed that most of the 256Mb were used, confirming that I made the right choice, but I also wondered why Linux would precisely use the amount of RAM I had. I was thinking to wait that memory comes cheaper to add two 512Mb bars to have a total of 1300Mb RAM. Would that make the system faster, or would that only be a waste of money? (running on a AMD Duron 750Mhz, that I may upgrade to K7 1.4Mhz sometime next year) I only run typical desktop single user applications (mail, internet...). Anguo P.S. : Even though this list is very busy, I do my best to read all the messages. I learn a lot this way. Thanks to everyone who ask questions (which are never stupid) and thanks to all those who take the time to reply... -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] What is the best cd-ripper for Linux
Konqueror in KDE 2.2 beta 1 has a built-in CD ripper. It can rip to WAV, MP3 or OGG. I haven't tried it, though, so I can't comment on how good it is. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:21, Kevin Fonner wrote: Just curious what your guys opinions on the best cd-ripper to use. Thanks, Kevin -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: Most all 'computer' problems are/or, at least I've found it's best for me, should be approached as User, then Hardware, then (any) OS. Also, I'm not hearing anything about the fact that we use GNU/Linux in this thread. Linux is only the kernel, everything else is GNU contributed proccesses and apps written to run on it. It's obvious (at least to me ;) that distros like RH, SuSe, and specially Mandrake have made great strides in gathering together these apps/proccesses, and 'user friendliness' configuration and coordination tools in just the past few years. *_In spite of_* an increasing ignorance and/or preference of Lusers to add closed source/binary only apps and (win)hardware into the mix. (yeah, I'm diggin at y'all nVidia folks again ;) I have to agree here. People tend to forget or even ignore all the hard work the Free Software Foundation has and is still doing. Linux is a kernel. Just about everything else around it is GNU -- hence the term GNU Operating System. The GNU OS can work on a wide variety of *nix kernels (e.g. Solaris BSD). Linux, however, cannot work on its own, and needs the GNU OS to operate. There was a recent discussion on MandrakeForum about this: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?thold=-1mode=nestedorder=0sid=1038lang=en Please be patient while it loads -- it is quite large. Prominent discussions on the page involve an argument between Craig Black and Yama. Craig is one of those pitiful souls who cannot comprehend the work of Richard Stallman or the FSF. Yama and a few others refute him at every turn, and eventually it just becomes an insult-fest :-) It's quite funny to read Craig's work, and eventually Deno (the Forum maintainer) adds his own two cents. By the way, if you haven't figured it out yet, Yama is my handle -- so all Yama posts are by me :-) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/ On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:19, Kevin Fonner wrote: Are there any decent web page editors that are compatable with bot linux and windows. What I mean is a program with binarys for both platforms. Thanks Kevin -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] checking HTML
Kmail can only view HTML; it cannot send it. The prefer plain text to html option is a viewing preference. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:50, Dennis Myers wrote: Hey y'all, just checking to see if I'm sending HTML. In mail appearance there is a box that says prefer plain text to html and sometimes it seems that it gets checked for no apparent reason, although I suspect it is because I like the inhanced Kmail look and select that. I just don't know if I am sending the bad stuff. Although if I was I am sure one of you would let me know. Anyway, this is just a long winded test. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] stupid mandrake won't launch realplaer 8
How come when I try to make it launch realplayer it just gives me a bunchof shint about can't launch realplayuer I don't wqtn to hear that rubbish, I just watn it to run realplaer. I even use the menu uditor and I use full path /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay and nothing happens so I clicked 1000 times and still worthless click. damn it I am very pissed off! -- Linux is cool
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
I initially thought that Civileme's post was just a bit over the top. After reading this, however, I think he was pretty-much spot-on. I suggest that if Judith wants something more like Windows, she have a look at other OSs like MacOS, OS/2 or BeOS. OS/2 is a single-user OS, and it has quite a few good applications written for it (many of them ports from *nix). I used to run it back in the Warp 3 days (around 1995). GNU/Linux *will* become more user-friendly, but it will take time. It is not quite there yet for the average user. System elements like the root-user dichotomy will never disappear, for they are fundamental to system stabliity. Implementing work-arounds to this would only defeat GNU/Linux's security (both physical and network, including Internet), and anyone knowledgeable enough to code such a system (assuming it is possible) would not do so because their knowledge would tell them it is a bad idea. As Civileme mentioned in an earlier post, MS try to blur the distinction between application and OS, so migrating Windows users end up blaming Linux when their desired function supposedly does not exist. People must remember that GNU/Linux is not Windows, nor will it ever be Windows. It is an entirely different OS, with entirely different ways of going about things. People need to keep an open mind when trying something new, and they should stop expecting everything to work just like Windows. The oft-abused term intuitive means different things to different people, depending on their own personal experiences. It has often been said that it is far easier to introduce a total computer newbie to GNU/Linux than it is to teach the same thing to an experienced Windows or MacOS user. The total newbie is starting with a clean slate. (S)he does not have any prior expectations on how something should work, and so is not 'hobbled' by past experience. The Windows/MacOS expert, on the other hand, must un-learn everything they had learnt previously, and shelve any expectations, in order to learn the new OS. IMHO, the *real* growth for GNU/Linux in the consumer market will not be in wealthier nations, where MS is already established. The action will instead be in poorer nations and areas, where the free GNU/Linux and cheaper hardware will enable millions to own computers and embedded devices (consoles, set-top boxes, PDAs, etc). With this in mind, focussing on luring Windows users with a clone-interface would be an extremely short-sighted strategy. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:40, Romanator wrote: Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote: -Mensagem Original- De: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Judith Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: domingo, 8 de julho de 2001 04:27 Assunto: Re: [newbie] Internet Security And despite the fact that I enjoy your posts, this is my last one to you and note it is on-list. It occurs to me that if you are a Microsoft shill, or executive, that you could be a lot more productive to your company by wasting my time than you could be by being negative on the newbie list. Civileme Interesting ... I had just written an e-mail congratulating Judith on her posts. After reading yours, tough, I must admit they do make some sense...and I haven't seen a reply of hers to your post. I would give a most outraged reply if I were mistaken with a Microshaft plant. And it looks weird to me that she doesn't know how to get the cedille, yet she knows so much about other things. I'm still not convinced she is a plant, tough. Time will tell. On the other hand, I guess that her posts didn't manage to scare anyone, if that was her intention. That linux needs to get easier to configure if it wants to atract Window$ users is a fact. Mandrake has gone a long way towards it by making the installation process easy- it is, in fact much easier and quicker than window$. But there is still work to be done, as I pointed in my last post. Will it be done? It depends on the community attitude towards new users, and their ability to handle micoshaft attacks, which will increase from now on. And it seems that the attacks can be very violent and unexpected indeed... --Jeferson L. Zacco aka Wooky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux registered user #221896 - Computers are used to solve problems that wouldn't exist if computers weren't invented in the first place. I have been following Judith Miner's email posts since 1996 through the her Wordstar postings on another news group. It appears that she is not new to the Microsoft Windows OS. This goes back as far as Windows 3.11 and DOS. I don't know if she is really who she says she is... but she has been pi**ssing off at lot of people over the years. She is well known through other newsgroups. My comments are not because I think I'm better than she is nor am I a Linux elitist or guru. However, almost every
[newbie] PCMCIA Network card
Title: PCMCIA Network card Hi, When I added my PCMCIA network into my laptop (Mandrake 7.2), I follow the instruction to do - 1st step # make config it require me to answer the first question - linux source directory -(/usr/src/linux) after I pressed the enter - error 1 come out. In fact I don't know how to troubleshoot it. Please give me your help, thanks. Best regards Herbert ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/7.2/i586/XFree86-4.0.3-11mdk/
Re: [newbie] stupid mandrake won't launch realplaer 8
Well assuming you installed it from the rpm ...realplay should be in.. /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay so either you installed the wrong one or you fscked it up. So it isn't stupid mandrake that YOU don't want to listen to, it is stupid lusers IT doesn't want to listen to. On Monday 09 July 2001 10:31, Mandrake wrote: How come when I try to make it launch realplayer it just gives me a bunchof shint about can't launch realplayuer I don't wqtn to hear that rubbish, I just watn it to run realplaer. I even use the menu uditor and I use full path /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay and nothing happens so I clicked 1000 times and still worthless click. damn it I am very pissed off!
Re: [newbie] Local network browsing not working
man smbmount On Sunday 08 July 2001 22:11, Ed Kasky wrote: I thought that it would read the information already broadcast. In previous installations I never had to run Lisa in order to be able to see shared drives. I was under the impression that if a drive is shared either from windoze or from samba, you could see it using konqueror and then authenticate once you tried to attach. My wondoze machines cna see and attach to the md box's shared folders but not visa versa Ed ~~ On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:05 am, etharp wrote: I could be barking up the wrong tree,,, but have you mounted those networked shares ? On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:38, Ed Kasky wrote: Trying to browse network using Konqueror returns the following error: Could not connect to host localhost I am running MD 8 and Samba 2.0.10. Other windows machines can see and connect to this one but it can't see the other machines on the network through Konqueror. I don't suspect a hardware problem as this machine can also access the internet no problem. I looked at /etc/hosts and it has one entry: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost I can also query other hosts on the network using smbclient from the command line Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ed
RE: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
try www.everybuddy.com - Original Message - From: Brian Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Intel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 4:58 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger. Hi again, Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN Messenger using friends. Cheers, Brian --
Re: [newbie] Re: Run My KMail While Logged Under Root?
As a sysadmin, you should know the dangers of logging-in as root. Root gives god-like access to the machine, and accessing the Internet as root is just asking for trouble. When you use the Internet, you are announcing your presence to the world. If you are root, then anyone who manages to break into your system (which is much easier when you're root) will also have god-like access. Because of this, it is best to minimise the time you spend as root, and to limit your permissions to only as much as you require. This can be achieved with a combination of su, kdesu and sudo from an ordinary user account. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:37, RahOoh wrote: If its so easy to have root capabilities, why not just log on as root? I work as a system administrator and I always log on as root, and so do my peers. Perhaps this is because we write scripts all the time, but I have no problems. Just my point of view. Dan B Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Curtis, I must ask why you have the need to log on as root. There should be absolutely no need for it (it's a security risk). One of the best ways to accomplish a task that requires root privileges (e.g. installing/uninstalling software, changing configs, etc.) is to su into a root terminal. To do this, simply open a terminal and type su. Enter your root password and from then on everything in the terminal is done as root. Everything outside the terminal will be done as your user. Remember to close (or log out of) the terminal as soon as you're done, to minimise the time you leave your system open. Also, take a look at kdesu (part of KDE -- look in the KDE help for details) and sudo (a separate package but on your Mandrake CDs). These make running root tasks from within a user account even easier. One thing you mentioned below is your use of the Ctrl + Alt + Backspace key combo to log out. This is supposed to be for emergencies only, similar to Ctrl + Alt + Del in Windows. If you wish to log-off, you should use the log-off function in your environment of choice (kind of like shutting-down X). When this is done, you can log-in again, shut-down your computer (using the menu option), or reboot (again, using the appropriate menu option). Failure to do these things may may result in ruin to your system. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:52, Curtis Matthiesen wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there is a way that I can run my Kmail account while I'm logged under as Root. For example if there is a switch of some sort that'll allow me to do this, so that way if I am logged under Root I don't have to Ctrl + Alt + Backspace and relogon just to get to my email. TIA Curtis -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
http://www.everybuddy.com/ On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:58, Brian Durant wrote: Hi again, Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN Messenger using friends. Cheers, Brian -- -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Mandrake80-inst.iso [install]
did you correctly write the iso or did you copy it to the cd? the *.ext.iso is the second cd, and whileit would be a good Idea to have , I believe that you should still be able to install... is your BIOS set to boot from CD? On Monday 09 July 2001 02:27, Tashildar, Dinesh wrote: Hi All, I downloaded Mandrake Linux from www.linuxiso.org name of the file is Mandrake80-inst.iso. I thought after writing into CD-R ,it will automatically boot from CD for installtion.But when I start my PC with CDROM Boot option, It didn't boot from CD. 1.Could anyone please tell me how to make this CD bootable. In this same site I found one more file Mandrake80-ext.iso, is this file require for Mandrake installation? --Dinesh
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
On 9/7/01 13:46, Florian Struck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / den 9/7/01 13:46 skrev Florian Struck fra [EMAIL PROTECTED] følgende: Try everybuddy or gabber . About gabber im not sure but everybuddy supports all instant messanger formats also aol and icq as well as yahoo and msn. On 9/7/01 14:13, steve campbell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / den 9/7/01 14:13 skrev steve campbell fra [EMAIL PROTECTED] følgende: on your cd's...gabber and everybuddy ( everybuddy has trouble with the msn server, i belive it's address is out of date) there is also imici which i use in windows and linux. Thanks for the quick response from list members! Cheers, Brian --
Re: [newbie] stupid mandrake won't launch realplaer 8
Bull shit, it can't decide what it don't want to listen to you luser On Monday 09 July 2001 05:12 am, so spoke steve campbell: Well assuming you installed it from the rpm ...realplay should be in.. /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay so either you installed the wrong one or you fscked it up. So it isn't stupid mandrake that YOU don't want to listen to, it is stupid lusers IT doesn't want to listen to.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake80-inst.iso [install]
If you burned the ISO to CD, it's most likely already bootabled, but your lmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 8:04AM up 4 days, 11:11, 5 users, load averages: 0.18, 0.08, 0.03 Your Fortune Bathquake, n.: The violent quake that rattles the entire house when the water faucet is turned on to a certain point. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets motherboard doesn't know it needs to do so. When the machine boots, go into the set up for the motherboard and make sure it boots from CD first. From there it will boot the CD and go through the install process. tdh | Hi All, | I downloaded Mandrake Linux from www.linuxiso.org name of the file is | Mandrake80-inst.iso. | I thought after writing into CD-R ,it will automatically boot from CD for | installtion.But when I start my PC with CDROM Boot option, It didn't boot | from CD. | | 1.Could anyone please tell me how to make this CD bootable. | | In this same site I found one more file Mandrake80-ext.iso, is this file | require for Mandrake installation? | | --Dinesh | --
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
Bascially you want a file, like a log, that had tons of data in it, to have all the data removed, but there still be a log file there? Does that sound about right? What I would do, would be delete the file rm -f file.log And then to get the file there again, with the bit size of 0 (zero) I'd use the touch command. touch file.log If you then get a ls -la on the file, it will give you this. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ touch file.log [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ls -la file.log -rw-r--r--1 timh timh0 Jul 9 08:09 file.log That's how I would go about it. Others would open the file in NEdit and then just delete everything and save it. All depends on how ya want to go about doing it. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 8:08AM up 4 days, 11:15, 5 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.02 Your Fortune Of course it's the murder weapon. Who would frame someone with a fake? | * Craig Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010708 23:47]: | Is there a linux command that will remove the contents of a file, but | leave the file name? | | To empty a text file named file.txt, I would do: | | $ cp /dev/null file.txt | | There are probably quite a few other ways to do it. | | -- | Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz | Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com linux.bz | Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, SQL, Perl, HTML | | --
Re: [newbie] What is the best cd-ripper for Linux
El Lun 09 Jul 2001 00:21, escribiste: Just curious what your guys opinions on the best cd-ripper to use. Thanks, Kevin I'm ussing Grip. Carlos
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
There is a product called Everybuddy that will link up Yahoo, Aim, and MSN all within the same Client. However, Because MSN and AIM are constantly trying to twart efforts to have other software makers access their systems, you will need to D/L the beta version for the MSN support. (M$ has recently changed how clients access their system and the beta version contains the new code to allow access.) WWW.everybuddy.com --- Brian Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN Messenger using friends. Cheers, Brian -- = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] telnet not installed?
On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:04 pm, Michael F. Aube wrote: I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed on my laptop, but I can't seem to find the telnet program. Anyone have any ideas where it might be, or why it wasn't installed? IIRC, it was left out on purpose because 'ssh' provides secure remote logins. see 'man ssh' -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
Craig-- On Monday 09 July 2001 01:20 am, Craig Westerman wrote: Is there a linux command that will remove the contents of a file, but leave the file name? Echo an empty string into it: $ echo '' filename.txt That '' is a pair of single-quotes, incidentally. It's sort of hard to see that in some fonts... -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
Re: [newbie] Safe to use shutdown -h now from KDE session?
David Nelson wrote: Hello, It is possible to shutdown the system by entering the command: #shutdown -h now from a terminal in KDE (Konsole). I have done it on occassion and it works fine, and I have not noticed any ill effects. I just worry that it may not be shuting KDE down properly, and that it will eventually lead to problems. On Sunday 08 July 2001 12:58 am, Roman Bysh wrote: I don't think you can do this. You must exit the GUI shell. Even the terminal is working from within KDE or Gnome etc.. The kill and shutdown commands will work if you exit to console outside the GUI shell. Thanks David Nelson Hi David, As I prefer to be logged in as user, I could not replicate the shutdown. However, when I changed to root, I was able to replicate it. I haven't seen any ill effects -yet. But, in the long run, you could be running an application without knowing it, and it could get corrupt. The kill or shutdown commands should be used as your last defense. If you are stuck with no options to log out and the OS is not responding to anything else. I would use it with care. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] stupid mandrake won't launch realplaer 8 needs MIME entries
Mandrake wrote: How come when I try to make it launch realplayer it just gives me a bunchof shint about can't launch realplayuer I don't wqtn to hear that rubbish, I just watn it to run realplaer. I even use the menu uditor and I use full path /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay and nothing happens so I clicked 1000 times and still worthless click. damn it I am very pissed off! -- Linux is cool Before you explode, take a deep breath and check the Linux-Mandrake newbie mail archives? I have posted the steps many times. However, I'll provide the entire instructions one more time. You must add several entries for the streaming media/video and audio to work. Hopefully, in the future www.real.com will improve their support (I wouldn't hold my breath) for their Unix/Linux binary and rpms. For now, their support is poor. This applies to Netscape: Start up Netscape: Select Edit-Preferences-Navigator-Applications 1. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealMedia File MIMEType: application/vnd.rn-realmedia Suffixes: .rm Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button Very Important: The %s switch activates the streaming feature in RealPlayer. If you do not add %s, it will NOT work. 2. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealVideo File MIMEType: video/vnd.rn-realvideo Suffixes: .rv Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button 3. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File MIMEType: audio/vnd.rn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button 4. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File 2 MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s click on the OK button 5. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter thef following settings: Description: Live365 MIMEType: audio/x-scpls Suffixes: .pls Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button 6. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio MIMEType: audio/mpeg Suffixes: Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button 7. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio 2 MIMEType: audio/x-mpegurl Suffixes: .m3u Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK button Select File-Exit Restart your web browser. During the first start up you may be prompted for your email address, country of origin and postal zip code address. You MUST fill in these fields to get RealPlayer working for the first time. That's it! Now you are ready to enjoy, music and streaming audio and video. Please make a print out of this for future reference. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] Memory use
I'm running a Gig of Ram in my Play-Station, and the only advantage is that OpenOffice opens right smartly! Other than that, everything runs normally. Dan On July 9, 2001 09:03 am, you wrote: On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:54 pm, Anguo wrote: I just bought a new box and insisted on having 256Mb RAM (against the advice of a friend who said 128Mb would be enough). After installing LM8.0, I noticed that most of the 256Mb were used, confirming that I made the right choice, but I also wondered why Linux would precisely use the amount of RAM I had. 256 is plenty, and was a good choice considering how cheap ram is. Linux is only 'using' most all your ram in the sense that it allocates it to cache and buffer. It's still free for use tho. total used free sharedbuffers Mem:255752 252508 3244 0 21460 cached 124616 -/+ buffers/cache: 106432 149320 Swap: 401552140 401412 In the ex. above, if you just look at the first line, it appears that all of 256mb but 3 is being used. It is, but not really, it's still ready for use by procceses and apps. -/+ buffers/cache: shows that 106mb is in use, 149 are free'n ready. I was thinking to wait that memory comes cheaper to add two 512Mb bars to have a total of 1300Mb RAM. Would that make the system faster, or would that only be a waste of money? You don't need more'n the 256 you've got. If you go over 1gig, you'll need a different kernel.
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
etharp wrote: snip hey roman, are you a typical windows user? grin Hey Tom, I have an NVIDIA card and works great. What can I say, it came with the computer. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey Only for projects at work. grin -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
RE: [newbie] Memory use
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anguo Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 23:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Memory use ¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 1 ¬P´Á¤é 23:01¡Acivileme ¼g¹D: linux makes an effort to keep almost all memory in use all the time (figuring unused memory is wasted memory), so it often finds memory errors right away that windows would totally miss. Civileme Oh! You just replied a question I didn't ask! :-) I just bought a new box and insisted on having 256Mb RAM (against the advice of a friend who said 128Mb would be enough). After installing LM8.0, I noticed that most of the 256Mb were used, confirming that I made the right choice, but I also wondered why Linux would precisely use the amount of RAM I had. I was thinking to wait that memory comes cheaper to add two 512Mb bars to have a total of 1300Mb RAM. Would that make the system faster, or would that only be a waste of money? (running on a AMD Duron 750Mhz, that I may upgrade to K7 1.4Mhz sometime next year) I only run typical desktop single user applications (mail, internet...). Anguo P.S. : Even though this list is very busy, I do my best to read all the messages. I learn a lot this way. Thanks to everyone who ask questions (which are never stupid) and thanks to all those who take the time to reply... Correct me if I am wrong, whoever is listening, but this is my theory: The kernl's memory map will configure the memory paging tables to utilize the Ram first, and then page to /swap when it needs extended frame storage. Therefore I think the simple answer is that the whatever RAM is available to the kernl, it will use, as it is that much less memory that is reqired from /swap. - tiny
[newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
Newbies, Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? Jim
Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor
Randy Kramer wrote: Kevin, Randy Kramer wrote: Before you buy anything, I'd at least look at Amaya, which is free and WYSIWYG. Oops, sorry, meant to include a link: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ Randy Kramer Amaya's not bad. It just takes a little to time to read the documentation and start your first page. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] System-wide environment variables?
On Monday 09 July 2001 06:29, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:01, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 08 July 2001 20:46, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Does anybody know how to get environment variables (like export...) working system-wide, that is, on the command line (BASH for me), in the log screens (e.g. on Ctrl-Alt-F12), and in X? I prefer to have X automatically load at startup (since it frees-up a console), but this means that I cannot take advantage of BASH's environment variables (configurable in ~/.bashrc and /etc/bashrc). I know I can load apps from a terminal, but I'd prefer to have something available throughout all of my X environment (for panel applets, etc.). I have placed my lines in /etc/X11/Xsession, but this doesn't appear to work anymore since I installed KDE 2.2 beta 1 (I use GNOME, though). Environment variables don't seem to work on the log screens (e.g. when you press Ctrl-Alt-F12) or for system processes (daemons, etc.), either. My system clock is set to UTC (i.e. Greenwich Mean TIme), and I use environment variables to enter my time zone settings so that the displayed time is correct (that way I can set my system time from an NTP server with ntpdate). It works fine in BASH, and as I mentioned above it used to work in X. Cron is always ten hours behind my local time (since I'm UTC +10h), and it can become annoying when it begins maintenence tasks during the day when I'm using the computer. Alternatively, is there a better solution to my setup? Any help would be much appreciated. /etc/profile is your friend I thought so too. I have already tried placing my lines in /etc/profile yet it doesn't seem to work as it should. Two lines I wish to execute are: # Enable QT Anti-Aliasing. export QT_XFT=1 # Enable Sun Java Plug-in. export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/java/jre1.3.1/plugin/i386/ns4/ From my /etc/profile... export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/java/plugin/i386 Thanks for the response. Exporting QT_XFT=1 should enable anti-aliasing on any QT2 application I load (even non-KDE apps), despite the fact that I'm not using KDE as my desktop. This used to work fine when placed in /etc/X11/Xsession, for apps like Kmail, Konqueror and Opera. Nowadays, however, I am resorting to using shell scripts that export QT_XFT=1 before loading the required app. The second variable is necessary to enable Sun's Java plug-in (otherwise it won't work in Netscape). Any other ideas? TIA. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ) Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1 Uptime 11 hours 56 minutes
[newbie] Running program on Linux Machine
Civileme, Can you or someone help me out? I want to enable myself and others (via login and password) to login via remote access dialup and run programs on my Linux box. Is this possible? I have had some geeks tell me that I can do this only with PCAnywhere or simular products. I am trying to keep the cost down and make it as simple as possible. The Linux box is for the church and money is a concern. Note: The ladies who will input the information do not desire to come to the church late at night or by themselves. Thanks PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
I see everyone pushing everyboddy.. but I use gabber, its a jabber client very nice check out, also does msn. aim. yahoo. icq etc www.jabber.org or for the client try... gabber.sourceforge.net On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 12:58:15 +0400 Brian Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN Messenger using friends. Cheers, Brian -- -- Gary Chisholm Registered Linux User #184670 - http://counter.li.org
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
I just installed DualHead on my Mandrake workstation. (Like two weekends ago.) Well in trying to do this, the Matrox site went down, and I couldn't find the right driver I needed. In hopes trying to get the drivers to work and blah blah blah, I downloaded and installed XF86 4.1.0. I downloaded the Xinstall.sh and all the files it needed. I then did a sh Xinstall.sh and it went through and did everything. There was a time where it was asking me some questions I believe. (I can't remember. I was installing so many things that weekend it was crazy.) It took quite some time to configure and install, but once it did, everything runs smoothly. I haven't had any problems with it, and I'm running the Matrox G400 MAX, and since then I've had no problems. Then again I didn't have any problems before hand either. I only upgraded that because I thought maybe it would help with supporting the new driver I was trying to use. So I installed it when I didn't need to, but I haven't had any problems either way. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 1:12PM up 4 days, 16:18, 8 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 Your Fortune Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards. -- Aldous Huxley | Newbies, | Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version | 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? | Jim --
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
I initially thought that Civileme's post was just a bit over the top. After reading this, however, I think he was pretty-much spot-on. I suggest that if Judith wants something more like Windows, she have a look at other OSs like MacOS, OS/2 or BeOS. OS/2 is a single-user OS, and it has quite a few good applications written for it (many of them ports from *nix). I used to run it back in the Warp 3 days (around 1995). [rest snipped] I thought Civileme's post was brilliant. But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) The Linux community (and especially the Newbie Mandrake community) requires an attitude support, cooperation, and thankfulness. To miss on any of these three things just drags us down, and introduces FUD. We don't need that, and as Civileme did so skillfully, we need to set it straight when it creeps in. Bravo, Civileme. Miark
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
The Conways wrote: Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? Jim, No real experience, but if you upgrading from 3.3.6, be aware that some drivers that existed for 3.3.6 do not exist for 4.1.0. Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] Linux app for MSN Messenger.
Imici does as well. You have to get an account with them first, and then you can use that to connect to AOL, YAHOO, ICQ, and something else too I think. I think it's www.imici.com, but you can search for it on FreshMeat as well. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 2:24PM up 4 days, 17:30, 9 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.04, 0.01 Your Fortune Molecule, n.: The ultimate, indivisible unit of matter. It is distinguished from the corpuscle, also the ultimate, indivisible unit of matter, by a closer resemblance to the atom, also the ultimate, indivisible unit of matter ... The ion differs from the molecule, the corpuscle and the atom in that it is an ion ... -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary | Hi again, | | Anyone on the list know if there is a Linux app that accesses the MSN | Messenger system? All my daughter's friends use MSN Messenger and I am | trying to find a Linux alternative that she can use to chat with her MSN | Messenger using friends. | | Cheers, | | Brian | -- | | --
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
Randy Kramer wrote: The Conways wrote: Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? Jim, No real experience, but if you upgrading from 3.3.6, be aware that some drivers that existed for 3.3.6 do not exist for 4.1.0. Randy Kramer I'm sticking with 3.3.6. My graphics card does not like XFree 4.x. I am using the NVIDIA GeForce card. I have been happy with it. I have learned from another user that moving to higher version XFree doesn't mean that your graphics performance will be better. Some cards will show poorer graphics in the higher version of XFree. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
When I ran the program to check which binaries it said there were no binaries for this version (i.e LM8) so I didn't proceed. Cliff - Original Message - From: The Conways [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0 Newbies, Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? Jim
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
Honestly, I'd say go with the usual saying, If it ain't broke, don't fix it! No need to upgraded at this point. I haven't noticed any performance differences, X has never crashed on me. The only reason I upgraded was because I thought it would help my issue with the drivers. (When the real issue was I didn't have the beta drivers to work with DualHead. All because the web page was down the whole weekend.) So if things work the way they are now, don't bother. If it does end up causing a head ache for you, you'll just be pissed because there was no reason to upgrade. tdh | Randy Kramer wrote: | | The Conways wrote: | Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version | 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? | | Jim, | | No real experience, but if you upgrading from 3.3.6, be aware that some | drivers that existed for 3.3.6 do not exist for 4.1.0. | | Randy Kramer | | I'm sticking with 3.3.6. My graphics card does not like XFree 4.x. I am | using the NVIDIA GeForce card. I have been happy with it. | I have learned from another user that moving to higher version XFree | doesn't mean that your graphics performance will be better. | Some cards will show poorer graphics in the higher version of XFree. | | Roman | Registered Linux User #179293 | su is not the root of your problem | but the start of a new journey | -- -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 2:51PM up 4 days, 17:57, 9 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 Your Fortune One thing the inventors can't seem to get the bugs out of is fresh paint.
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) And you sir are very close minded. You don't want to listen to new ideas and thinking if they don't fall into your narrow guidelines. I have reason to suspect that you would be perfectly happy if Linux remained an elite OS out of the reach of the average user putting yourself on some sort of pedestal. Sorry I don't deal well with snooty I'm better then you types. Judith gave the list some constructive criticism in hopes I'm sure that the right people might be listening. I distinctly remember her thanking the community for all the work that has been done and credited the community with developing a system with great potetial. Maybe not an exact quote but I think the meaning was close. All things change. They get better or get worse and/or die eventually. I believe the community knows this and realizes that Linux's future depends on innovation and new ideas and thinking. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if this community desires me to leave, but that's ok for I don't desire to be somewhere where speaking out for your convictions and ideas is not acceptable. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
Perhaps this is off subject and I certainly would not want to start a linux is bad, very very bad war,but it seems to me that in my few short weeks apart of this list, I have seen more questions around things, like fonts, sound cards and video cards. Now, I know hardware support is not Mandrakes fault, but the font thing does sort of blow my mind. Althought it does not *seem* like a usability issue, it has certainly hindered my abilility to solve my own problems. For instance...I want to download the reference manual off of mandrakes website. I visit the page and can't read a thing. Fonts are messed up. So I join a mailing list that gives me advice on how to fix my fonts. (xfree86 file) Great, that helps, but I still can't see windows fonts. (or mandrakes webpage) Mailing list advice: Import windows fonts. But I can't do that, I don't have windows installed on the same machine. Mailing list advice: I get links to websites to download Font files. Can you guess what happenes next? They files are all executable or in windows format And don't tell me to run WiNE! I can't even download a manual to tell me what WINE is!!! My fonts are still not perfect. Ans what really gets me is that the Mandrake web-developers created half their site in the unreadable-by-linux-Arial font face I did finally find instructions on the mandrake website on how to rememdy this problem. But I had to copy the text from the unreadable arial-font-faced webpage and copy it into Star-office.And the instructions are timeconsuming...at least for someone who justs want to surf the web after this whole ordeal. All this hassle just to be able to read information from the manufacturers website. By no means take this as Linux-bashing. I love the system and enjoy learning all it quirks. The moral of my story is: Sometimes pretty colors and good-looking fonts make computing a whole lot easier. smiles And don't call me Judy! --- civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mandrake is already rejected by many who like to think of themselves as l33t, but I don't believe we have lost that much of the power of linux. The point is this; we believe that a system can be powerful, flexible, and user-friendly. The power and flexibility are built-in for linux so much of our work is on user-friendliness. We therefore welcome input on it. We don't happen to believe that Microsoft has necessarily found the best solution to any one problem associated with use. (Who would intuit that you press the Start key to shut down?) It is a major force because many people are familiar with it, but the style it provides is not necessarily the best. We may have no better idea what is intuitive and what is not than they do, so that is where the folks here can help us. Think carefully, when confused, and note the steps you take to do things with your computer. We know we're producing a counter-intuitive interface when a lot of folks are reporting errors we cannot reproduce. This happens frequently with software manager right now. If people would take notes of a session they had with software manager, we would be able to see where their intuition leads them (we are spoiled by being close to its design and implementation, so what we do [wihout thinking much about it] is already trained to a certain procedure) and we would be able to make the software more truly intuitive in its user interface. I hope you get the idea. help us help you, by taking a few notes on your steps, either as you make them (preferable) or when something goes wrong. Microsoft would like you to think theirs is intuitive, and Apple would like you to think it is them instead. But the fact is, no one to my knowledge has done the interfaces with lots of user feedback where the users consciously participated and statistics were used routinely to study the data and come up with something that is close to what people want. The next question of course, is does such a solution exist? Or do we have many that will be considered roughly equally intuitive? I know one way to discover that answer. :-) Civileme = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] GinRummy for Linux
Dear All, I am looking for a GinRummy card game to run on my LM8. Does anyone know where I can get one? Thank you very much. Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
On Monday 09 July 2001 15:22, you wrote: But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) And you sir are very close minded. You don't want to listen to new ideas and thinking if they don't fall into your narrow guidelines. I have reason to suspect that you would be perfectly happy if Linux remained an elite OS If you are applying this to all of the list members you are very much mistaken. I, for example turned to Linux a couple of years ago purely because I wanted something new out of computing, I didn't want shrink wrapped software that in a lot of cases didn't live up to it's media hype. I wanted to learn and have learnt a lot, mainly thanks to people on this list but also because I am not afraid to pick up a book and read. If I considered myself to be elite or part of an elite group I would hardly be writing now on a newbie group. out of the reach of the average user putting yourself on some sort of pedestal. Sorry I don't deal well with snooty I'm better then you types. Your insult is noted and I don't deem it worthy of a considered reply. Judith gave the list some constructive criticism in hopes I'm sure that the right people might be listening. They are, but not even Microsoft would make a modification/bug fix for one person overnight, Linux is new and growing, change takes time. When I started it took me 2 days to install and set up properly - that isn't any sort of elitist comment, I mention it to illustrate how far it has come in a short time, this has come about by requests for change, constructive criticism etc. Don't forget that most of the work on Linux is done by unpaid volunteers, people like you and me who can and do make contributions - but these volunteers have studies/employment to consider and can only devote a limited amount of time to Linux. Companies such as Mandrake are small, very few paid employees - the resources aren't there as they are with Microsoft, IBM and others who can release a team of programmers to deal with a specific matter. I distinctly remember her thanking the community for all the work that has been done and credited the community with developing a system with great potetial. Maybe not an exact quote but I think the meaning was close. All things change. They get better or get worse and/or die eventually. I believe the community knows this and realizes that Linux's future depends on innovation and new ideas and thinking. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if this community desires me to leave,but that's ok for I don't desire to be somewhere where speaking out for your convictions and ideas is not acceptable. That's up to you, nobody will ask you to leave, the thing about Linux is it's free, to quote as in speech, not beer you have your right to free speech and you have your views which may be criticised openly, even rudely perhaps, but they will be respected. Tazmun Sorry this is reply is badly edited, I don't do rant very well grin -- Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it)
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
And you sir are very close minded. You don't want to listen to new ideas and thinking if they don't fall into your narrow guidelines. Ideas were not at all the subject of my e-mail. I was speaking to _attitude_. Miark
[newbie] New HDD
Well I reckoned that now that I recently built A Tbird 1.55 gig (overclocked) system for Mandrake, it was 'bout time to give Linux a new fast harddrive to run on also. So I went and bought a IBM 7200rpm-2mb cache 30g drive to replace the old'n slow WD 5400 rpm I've been runnin Linux on for years. I bought an OEM HDD that only came with IBM's version of ez-bios on a floppy ($135 from MegaHaus Dickinson, TX). I knew ez-bios wouldn't be needed, or wanted, but I wasn't sure I wouldn't need DOS fdisk to setup the drive. In a few minutes I had the old drive out an the new one in place as hdb. Then I figured, what'a heck, let's see just how good Mandrakes' DiskDrake is. So I put in my 8.0 1st CD and booted. No problem, went thru the install and at the partitioning section, DiskDrake handled the new drive beautifully. After install, I copied /home/tom back into place from my Whimblows drive (hda, also an IBM 7200rpm-2mb) along with ManrakeUpdate rpm's I saved and had the whole system just like it was before ... in just over an hour, start to finish. Thanks Mandrake ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
Steve, Decided to forward this to the list just to see if anyone else could answer my other questions. Randy Kramer Steve wrote: There is no such thing as WYSIWYG html editor. I think what you mean is an nice pretty interactive gui where one doesn't need to type code and works much like a layout application. Steve, Thanks for the response! Out of curiosity, are you saying such a thing cannot be made, or that no one has accomplished making one so far? If the former, I'd be interested in knowing why you say that. Aside: Just because you seem to have an interest and knowledge in HTML, maybe you can provide some insight into another question I have. I assume you've noticed the behavior that occurs (in most of the web browsers I've used) where, if there is an element in the page wider than the window width, the window expands horizontally to accomodate this element. (It happens for wide graphics, tables, and preformatted text.) You must scroll horizontally to see the entire graphic, table, or preformatted text. Unfortunately, all other text then wraps at the same width, which means you must scroll horizontally to read any text. It is this second behavior that I find annoying -- do you know of any HTML tags that can be used to control the width at which text wraps, or any other workaround short of building a program to wrap the text at a reasonable width and then enclose it in pre tags or something like that? Is this an issue of HTML or an issue of how browsers have implemented HTML. Even if it is an issue with how browsers' implement HTML, it would be nice if the HTML people added something to deal with this issue. Thanks, Randy Kramer
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
As far as text width goes, I sometimes control it by placing it in a single-cell table, where the table is set to a certain pixel-width my choice. I find using tables creatively solves a lot of positioning problems. There are probably new-fangled ways to do it, but I stick with things that search engines like, and they really only like the old-school solutions :-) Miark - Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor] Steve, Decided to forward this to the list just to see if anyone else could answer my other questions. Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
Re. the MS fonts in exe format. I have not tried it, but it seems that unzip on Linux is able to handle exe zip files. What I did was to burn the windows fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. Eric Indiogine On Monday 09 July 2001 13:22, jennifer wrote: Perhaps this is off subject and I certainly would not want to start a linux is bad, very very bad war,but it seems to me that in my few short weeks apart of this list, I have seen more questions around things, like fonts, sound cards and video cards. Now, I know hardware support is not Mandrakes fault, but the font thing does sort of blow my mind. Althought it does not *seem* like a usability issue, it has certainly hindered my abilility to solve my own problems. For instance...I want to download the reference manual off of mandrakes website. I visit the page and can't read a thing. Fonts are messed up. So I join a mailing list that gives me advice on how to fix my fonts. (xfree86 file) Great, that helps, but I still can't see windows fonts. (or mandrakes webpage) Mailing list advice: Import windows fonts. But I can't do that, I don't have windows installed on the same machine. Mailing list advice: I get links to websites to download Font files. Can you guess what happenes next? They files are all executable or in windows format And don't tell me to run WiNE! I can't even download a manual to tell me what WINE is!!! My fonts are still not perfect. Ans what really gets me is that the Mandrake web-developers created half their site in the unreadable-by-linux-Arial font face I did finally find instructions on the mandrake website on how to rememdy this problem. But I had to copy the text from the unreadable arial-font-faced webpage and copy it into Star-office.And the instructions are timeconsuming...at least for someone who justs want to surf the web after this whole ordeal. All this hassle just to be able to read information from the manufacturers website. By no means take this as Linux-bashing. I love the system and enjoy learning all it quirks. The moral of my story is: Sometimes pretty colors and good-looking fonts make computing a whole lot easier. smiles And don't call me Judy! --- civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mandrake is already rejected by many who like to think of themselves as l33t, but I don't believe we have lost that much of the power of linux. The point is this; we believe that a system can be powerful, flexible, and user-friendly. The power and flexibility are built-in for linux so much of our work is on user-friendliness. We therefore welcome input on it. We don't happen to believe that Microsoft has necessarily found the best solution to any one problem associated with use. (Who would intuit that you press the Start key to shut down?) It is a major force because many people are familiar with it, but the style it provides is not necessarily the best. We may have no better idea what is intuitive and what is not than they do, so that is where the folks here can help us. Think carefully, when confused, and note the steps you take to do things with your computer. We know we're producing a counter-intuitive interface when a lot of folks are reporting errors we cannot reproduce. This happens frequently with software manager right now. If people would take notes of a session they had with software manager, we would be able to see where their intuition leads them (we are spoiled by being close to its design and implementation, so what we do [wihout thinking much about it] is already trained to a certain procedure) and we would be able to make the software more truly intuitive in its user interface. I hope you get the idea. help us help you, by taking a few notes on your steps, either as you make them (preferable) or when something goes wrong. Microsoft would like you to think theirs is intuitive, and Apple would like you to think it is them instead. But the fact is, no one to my knowledge has done the interfaces with lots of user feedback where the users consciously participated and statistics were used routinely to study the data and come up with something that is close to what people want. The next question of course, is does such a solution exist? Or do we have many that will be considered roughly equally intuitive? I know one way to discover that answer. :-) Civileme = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Books?
Boliver, Check the Internet for Mandrake-specific books. Amazon.com and bn.com (Barnes Noble) are good places to look, and you're likely to find better prices than at your local bookstore (even local Barnes Noble stores!). Miark - Original Message - From: Boliver Allmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: [newbie] Books? When I go to the bookstore to look for books to read and/or use for reference material all I can find is for other distributions. Will these help at all with my Mandrake 8.0 or can anyone suggest books specifically for Mandrake?
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
Miark, Thanks -- I had done something similar, setting a single cell table to 90% (for a slightly different reason) -- I'll try this -- it should be helpful -- I probably want to size it for a 640x480 browser, and just let it fill less than the whole window on larger browsers. Randy Kramer Miark wrote: As far as text width goes, I sometimes control it by placing it in a single-cell table, where the table is set to a certain pixel-width my choice. I find using tables creatively solves a lot of positioning problems. There are probably new-fangled ways to do it, but I stick with things that search engines like, and they really only like the old-school solutions :-)
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
On Monday 09 July 2001 02:59 pm, Tim Holmes wrote: Honestly, I'd say go with the usual saying, If it ain't broke, don't fix it! No need to upgraded at this point. I haven't noticed any performance differences, X has never crashed on me. The only reason I upgraded was because I thought it would help my issue with the drivers. (When the real issue was I didn't have the beta drivers to work with DualHead. All because the web page was down the whole weekend.) So if things work the way they are now, don't bother. If it does end up causing a head ache for you, you'll just be pissed because there was no reason to upgrade. tdh | Randy Kramer wrote: | The Conways wrote: | Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest | version 4.1.0 of Xfree 86? | | Jim, | | No real experience, but if you upgrading from 3.3.6, be aware that some | drivers that existed for 3.3.6 do not exist for 4.1.0. | | Randy Kramer | | I'm sticking with 3.3.6. My graphics card does not like XFree 4.x. I am | using the NVIDIA GeForce card. I have been happy with it. | I have learned from another user that moving to higher version XFree | doesn't mean that your graphics performance will be better. | Some cards will show poorer graphics in the higher version of XFree. | | Roman | Registered Linux User #179293 | su is not the root of your problem | but the start of a new journey -- You are right. I used to update and upgrade all the time thinking things would be better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
[newbie] Logs!!
I continue to have problems with my mouse freezing (keyboard works). Here is the latest scenario. I did a clean install of Mandrake Linux 8.0. It worked beautifully for about a week. Then I figured out how the software manager and updates work, and I updated my system. All was well for 3 or 4 days. Then i installed a firewall - all OK for 2 days. During each of these periods I did numerous shutdowns and everything worked OK (I was bouncing between Win98 and Mandrake). Then, out of the blue. the mouse froze and i saw various messages about modules of various types not being available. Previously, to correct the problem, i have done a total reinstall after formatting the disk. This is getting old - i would like to be able to find the logs that might tell me where the problem(s) is/are. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Also, how do I go about fixing these problems without doing a total reinstall (the reinstalls sound too much like my experience with Windows) Thanks for the help. Preston --- Betti Ann Preston Smith Head of St Margaret's Bay, NS [EMAIL PROTECTED] MGB RV Owners
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
How is one to tell?? I mention that I recently came across the instructions on how to install the new fonts, but I haven't had the time yet to sit down and really understand them. From the advice I got in other groups, I can simply copy all the true type fonts from my windows machine (burn them if neccesary, I didn't think of doing that)and they were good to go on my linux box. Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful to do this only for fonts which you have the legal right to use on other computers. Randy Kramer Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: What I did was to burn the xxx fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie] graphics display 800x600
what is the command to force the display to display at 1024*768 i tweaked the config file but no help (6.0) and no i won't upgrade because this is a 486 and i just got a bigger monitor and i want it smaller its just a samba server for a remote office Thanks BrandonGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format I just took a peek at the HTML on the Mandrake home page, and it specifies Helvetica as the primary font--not Arial. So it _was_ apparently designed for its community as only Linux users favor Helvetica over Arial. (Well, unless Macs have also switched from Chicago to Helvetica.) But I empathize with you! Miark
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
jennifer wrote: How is one to tell?? Well, as is usually the case, I don't have the whole answer to that. My biggest concern was giving people the idea that it might be OK to copy Windows fonts and then having them get into trouble. My understanding is that many of the Microsoft fonts cannot be used except on a machine that has a valid licensed copy of Windows. (Usually those discussions reference a dual boot setup, but I don't know that Windows would have to be installed, only that a valid licensed copy existed for that machine.) For other fonts, I have little or no knowledge. (Although I think some of the Postscript fonts are proprietary, which is why someone has created a non-proprietary alternative.) Sorry I can't be more helpful. Randy Kramer I mention that I recently came across the instructions on how to install the new fonts, but I haven't had the time yet to sit down and really understand them. From the advice I got in other groups, I can simply copy all the true type fonts from my windows machine (burn them if neccesary, I didn't think of doing that)and they were good to go on my linux box. Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful to do this only for fonts which you have the legal right to use on other computers. Randy Kramer Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: What I did was to burn the xxx fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0, XF86Config and SiS 630
Jaime, First, some digressions: Request: Please don't use HTML in your mail. It makes it difficult to read for various people depending on their mail client. For me, the type becomes very small. Question: Did you set the Reply To:? I ask because we were having a discussion about how mail behaves with different browsers, and yours comes along and behaves differently. Request: Don't use the Reply to: to get a personal reply -- let the reply go to the list -- hopefully it benefits more people, plus, you get the benefit of cross-pollinization of ideas and suggestions. I (actually my son) have a motherboard with an SiS 630/730 video chipset on board. IIRC, I don't think the 630 is supported in XFree86 above 4.0 (or maybe it's the other way around). We installed Mandrake 7.2 on that system, because we had difficulty setting up a beta of Mandrake 8.0. IIRC, I don't think it gave us the choice of XFree 3.3.6 or 4.0.3. When we installed Mandrake 7.2, we still had problems with X. We finally did the installation in text mode, chose the 3.3.6 driver (IIRC), and did not allow test of X during the installation. I suspect Mandrake 8.0 might work OK with the text mode installation, choosing 3.3.6, and not doing the test. Good luck, Randy Kramer Jaime C. Rubin de Celis wrote: Hello, I very new at linux and have a problem with the SIS 630. I can't make the X Window to work. After intallation, I was asked to reboot the system. I did so, but all I got was a screen with a lot of colored lines, so I reboot again and entered the Shell. I downloaded the SIS (xsis.rpm) driver for linux and intall it. I did everything that the sis page recomended, but still no luck. any suggestions. (consider i am very new at this) thanks Jaime
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
LOL, well, I'll take it upon myself and make the decision that although I only have windows installed on one machine I'll install the fonts anyway since my linux box was purchased with a forced installation of windows and license. even if the system is not super-user friendly, the users are Thanks for the help! --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jennifer wrote: How is one to tell?? Well, as is usually the case, I don't have the whole answer to that. My biggest concern was giving people the idea that it might be OK to copy Windows fonts and then having them get into trouble. My understanding is that many of the Microsoft fonts cannot be used except on a machine that has a valid licensed copy of Windows. (Usually those discussions reference a dual boot setup, but I don't know that Windows would have to be installed, only that a valid licensed copy existed for that machine.) For other fonts, I have little or no knowledge. (Although I think some of the Postscript fonts are proprietary, which is why someone has created a non-proprietary alternative.) Sorry I can't be more helpful. Randy Kramer I mention that I recently came across the instructions on how to install the new fonts, but I haven't had the time yet to sit down and really understand them. From the advice I got in other groups, I can simply copy all the true type fonts from my windows machine (burn them if neccesary, I didn't think of doing that)and they were good to go on my linux box. Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful to do this only for fonts which you have the legal right to use on other computers. Randy Kramer Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: What I did was to burn the xxx fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] A note about user-friendliness
jennifer wrote: How is one to tell?? I mention that I recently came across the instructions on how to install the new fonts, but I haven't had the time yet to sit down and really understand them. From the advice I got in other groups, I can simply copy all the true type fonts from my windows machine (burn them if neccesary, I didn't think of doing that)and they were good to go on my linux box. Do you all see what I mean?? This is alot of trouble to go through just to be able to read the type face on the manufacturers website...You would think that Mandrake would cater to their own community and either include the Arial font, or compose their website in linux-readable format --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful to do this only for fonts which you have the legal right to use on other computers. Randy Kramer Salvatore Enrico Indiogine wrote: What I did was to burn the xxx fonts on a CD and install then on all MDK computers using the MDK font installer. Easy to do. = Jennifer Registered Linux User #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Jennifer, Did you download the update DrakFont? After downloading I selected Configuration-Other-Drakfont. Click on the Get Windows fonts button. Select Install All and click on the Normal button. Give it a moment and you will have a lot of newer fonts. I have been using a combination of Helvetica, Arial including Verdana and it looks good. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
[newbie] Mandrake 8.0, XF86Config and SiS 630
Hi there I had a similar problem with the SiS chipsets. Go and have a look at www.xfree.org and see which versions of XFree have support for your chipset. In all probability it will be the 3.3.6 version without acceleration. Alternatively you could also do a search on the XFree and Mandrake sites for setting up and using a Framebuffer server. I hope this is of some assistance to you. Kind regards -- Mark Annandale Mandrake 8 Sent with KMail
RE: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
There probably is, but I don't know it.. I use : rm filename touch filename that removes the file and recreates it... regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Westerman Sent: Monday, 9 July 2001 1:21 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: [newbie] deleting contents of a file Is there a linux command that will remove the contents of a file, but leave the file name? Thanks HW
[newbie] SiS 630
Hello again I just had a look at the XFree site where it states that release 3.3.6 has support for the 630 chipset. There uis also support for the 630 chipset in release 4.0 however they claim there are some problems with it. My advice would be to stick with 3.3.6 or a framebuffer server if you cannot get it to work. Regards -- Mark Annandale Mandrake 8 Sent with KMail
[newbie] RE: [expert] making shell script excutable.........
you could also use chmod 755 ./filename first number is owner, second is group, and third is everyone.. then you have the breakdown... 4 == read 2 == write 1 == execute so 755 means: 7 == 4+2+1 for full permissions to owner. 5 == 4+1 meaning read and execute to the group not write. 5 == Ditto to the above. make sense? regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of faisal gillani Sent: Monday, 9 July 2001 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] making shell script excutable. well i finally wrote my first shell script ... now i want to make it excutable ... i dont want to run it as ./filename i tried to make it excutable with the following command chmod a+x ./filename is it ok ? if yes then why is it not working thanks Faisal __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] XFree 86 4.1.0????
On Monday 09 July 2001 01:40 pm, Cliff Gosden wrote: When I ran the program to check which binaries it said there were no binaries for this version (i.e LM8) so I didn't proceed. Cliff http://pclinuxonline.com/article.php?sid=75 Texstar is a good ol' TX Luser. He often makes major upgrades available much the same as Chris Molnar use to for KDE. I use a lot of cooker updates, but for major items like XFree, and between chasing failed dependencies and other snags ... it's a lot easier to let a hand like Texstar do it for you ;) Newbies, Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with the latest version4.1.0 of Xfree 86? As I aluded to above, I've been usin Texstar's rebuilt Mandrake cooker rpms for over a month, no problems. I should say tho that he also has some newer 4.1 rpms, but they disable anti aliasing for 8 to 14 pt fonts. So I haven't bothered with those. ftp://ftp.eastwind.net/pub/mirrors/texstar/Xfree-4.1.0/ -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] SiS 630
El Lun 09 Jul 2001 23:33, Mark Annandale escribió: Hello again I just had a look at the XFree site where it states that release 3.3.6 has support for the 630 chipset. There uis also support for the 630 chipset in release 4.0 however they claim there are some problems with it. My advice would be to stick with 3.3.6 or a framebuffer server if you cannot get it to work. Regards I have the Sis 630 chipset and only I can get working Xfree with 4.0 version using the 4.0.1a pach that is posted on the http://sis.com.tw. If someone still having problems with this chipset I recoment to read the linux driver section of Sis.com best regards
RE: [newbie] Logs!!
nope, reiserfs is a replacement for ext2.. its a new type of journaling filesystem... I am using it on my boxes,, it has some benefits, no defrag, and it remembers its good state, so if you hit reset, or powerouts and stuff, it ususally just comes straight back up with no problems at all... It can also be a bit faster then ext2 as well. I have used it for months now, and I love it... it has nothing to do with hdparm (what happens in that high speed access thing...) regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tazmun Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 8:32 AM To: Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Logs!! Is the Reiser file system the part during the install where it talks about higher speed hard drive access but does not recommend it because with different chipsets it tends to be buggy? Or is this something else? Tazmun Preston are you using Reiser filesystem? Civileme
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
I assume you've noticed the behavior that occurs (in most of the web browsers I've used) where, if there is an element in the page wider than the window width, the window expands horizontally to accomodate this element. (It happens for wide graphics, tables, and preformatted text.) You must scroll horizontally to see the entire graphic, table, or preformatted text. Unfortunately, all other text then wraps at the same width, which means you must scroll horizontally to read any text. It is this second behavior that I find annoying -- do you know of any HTML tags that can be used to control the width at which text wraps, or any other workaround short of building a program to wrap the text at a reasonable width and then enclose it in pre tags or something like that? Is this an issue of HTML or an issue of how browsers have implemented HTML. Even if it is an issue with how browsers' implement HTML, it would be nice if the HTML people added something to deal with this issue. Actually, this is not an HTML issue--it is an issue of some, not all HTML developers developing fixed width pages. I mean, just because something looks good at 1024 x 768, doesn't mean that people using 640 x 480 (or for that matter 800 x 600) will be able to see it without having to scroll horizontally. There are several ways to handle this -- do not set a specific width for a table column, or use stylesheets for positioning and instead of stuff like font /font and so forth (the preferred way for html 4.01 and xhtml 1.x). A standard 640 x 480 screen can see at most about 600-620 pixels before you end up scrolling horizontally. Anyways, a good designer / developer will set up a site such that it will resize accordingly based on how large / small the screen is. An 2-column example (in strict xhtml 1.0 / css 2.0, that works for at the very least Netscape 4.77, IE 5.5, Netscape 6.x, and Mozilla) where the left column is fixed width, and the right column is variable can be seen here: http://webspinners.uwf.org/~mviron/prototypes/mvo/index-test.php (I haven't seen this in all browsers on all OSes, so I'm not sure how well it looks on earlier versions of Netscape, IE, and so forth--if you do try a browser I don't list here, send me a screenshot off list with what it looks like) Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant, Web Spinners, Univ. of West Florida Project Coordinator / Primary Developer, General Education Online
Re: [newbie] WINE runs Windows proggies! ok?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uli) Subject: Re: [newbie] WINE runs Windows proggies! ok? I have got wine from www.codeweavers.com, I think it's different from Mandrake's wine. I start winword and other windows-progs by wine winfile in a KDE-konsole. Then I start the windows application by double click. I have to add that I have a working MS-Office on a windows partition under Windows 98. Ah HA! *THAT'S* why it all works so well for you - WINE is accessing a real, installed Windows installation, instead of just emulating the Windows API. I've never seen MS Office work if you use just WINE, without any real Windows partition to point WINE at. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Pysche closed for renovations.
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor]
Michael, Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, your example doesn't really address what I was trying to ask about. Maybe the easiest way for me to express myself would be to build on your example (in words). I'm viewing your page at 800x600. If you were to put a very long preformatted line into the right hand side (2000 characters, for the sake of argument), would the other text wrap at the width of the window, or would lines only wrap if they exceeded the length of the 2000 line character? I'd like to find a way to force the wrap to occur at the normal size of the window, and only have to horizontally scroll for the one preformatted 2000 character line. (Maybe preformatted isn't the right word. On TWiki I can create such a line by enclosing it in pre /pre tags -- I'm not even sure that is real HTML.) Randy Kramer Michael D. Viron wrote: I assume you've noticed the behavior that occurs (in most of the web browsers I've used) where, if there is an element in the page wider than the window width, the window expands horizontally to accomodate this element. (It happens for wide graphics, tables, and preformatted text.) You must scroll horizontally to see the entire graphic, table, or preformatted text. Unfortunately, all other text then wraps at the same width, which means you must scroll horizontally to read any text. It is this second behavior that I find annoying -- do you know of any HTML tags that can be used to control the width at which text wraps, or any other workaround short of building a program to wrap the text at a reasonable width and then enclose it in pre tags or something like that? Is this an issue of HTML or an issue of how browsers have implemented HTML. Even if it is an issue with how browsers' implement HTML, it would be nice if the HTML people added something to deal with this issue. Actually, this is not an HTML issue--it is an issue of some, not all HTML developers developing fixed width pages. I mean, just because something looks good at 1024 x 768, doesn't mean that people using 640 x 480 (or for that matter 800 x 600) will be able to see it without having to scroll horizontally. There are several ways to handle this -- do not set a specific width for a table column, or use stylesheets for positioning and instead of stuff like font /font and so forth (the preferred way for html 4.01 and xhtml 1.x). A standard 640 x 480 screen can see at most about 600-620 pixels before you end up scrolling horizontally. Anyways, a good designer / developer will set up a site such that it will resize accordingly based on how large / small the screen is. An 2-column example (in strict xhtml 1.0 / css 2.0, that works for at the very least Netscape 4.77, IE 5.5, Netscape 6.x, and Mozilla) where the left column is fixed width, and the right column is variable can be seen here: http://webspinners.uwf.org/~mviron/prototypes/mvo/index-test.php (I haven't seen this in all browsers on all OSes, so I'm not sure how well it looks on earlier versions of Netscape, IE, and so forth--if you do try a browser I don't list here, send me a screenshot off list with what it looks like) Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant, Web Spinners, Univ. of West Florida Project Coordinator / Primary Developer, General Education Online
Re: [newbie] install on NTFS
Greg, I was confused the first time I read your note, but now it sounds like all you really want to do is install Mandrake 7.2 in a dual boot configuration on a machine that already has Windows 2000 Server installed. Is that correct? If so, let us know -- I think (unless there is something tricky about Windows 2000), that is fairly easy to do and sort of the standard Linux installation. You shrink your existing windows partition, then create new partitions for Linux. These new partitions can be ext2 or any other valid Linux type partition. (I'm not trying to give you the step by step here -- if what I described is what you're trying to accomplish, the standard step by step is available -- write back if you need help -- somebody will be able to help you.) Or, are you trying to run some Linux applications while you are running windows? If so, let us know which ones -- some can be done (with Cygwin for instance) and others I suspect cannot be done. regards, Randy Kramer Greg Partin wrote: I'm running Windows 2000 Server on my machine now so I believe that I cannot use linx4win. Is this true? The only 2 options are to use NTFS and FAT when installing Windows 2000 Server. I'm having a really difficult time with the installation on top of this. Whenever I try the graphical installation the mouse does not work and whenever I try the text installation the keyboard does not work. I looked at the BIOS to see if there was anywhere to turn of Plug 'n Play but I don't seem to have an option (is it called something else that I may not know?). Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Greg On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:21:23 +, civileme wrote: On Monday 09 July 2001 19:27, Greg Partin wrote: Hi folks, Is it possible to install Mandrake 7.2 on a system with NTFS as its file allocation method? If not, is it possible to switch to FAT without having to reinstall everything? Thanks and much obliged. Greg The NTFS filesystem, no. It is proprietary and secret and our best drivers just read and (experimenatlly write to it) It is possible to do a system with FAT, but a very bad idea. ext2 keeps fragmentation low by design, and doesn't use a defragmenter, and there are none currently available under linux for FAT32, and , as often as linux hits the disk with small (less than 1k) files, FAT32 would be overwhelmed and severely fragmented in just a day or two. Windows would directly see those partitions and complain that they were malformed or contained corrupt data and some wizard would likely offer to fix them. Or windows would flat refuse to boot on a dual boot system because all the corrupt filesystems would first have to be formatted. You can achieve a similar effect by using lnx4win. Civileme ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Greg Partin 3848 Lyons Rd. apt#204 Coconut Creek, FL 33073 (954) 957-9137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [newbie] install on NTFS
Yes, all i'm trying to do is install Mandrake 7.2 in a dual boot config. I am unable to use lnx4win because Win2k Server does not support it (or it does not support win2k server I should say). I insert Mandrake into my drive, boot up and press Enter. I get the standard graphical install screen but my mouse does not work. I try rebooting and pressing F1 and then type 'text' but then my keyboard does not work. If I boot up, press F1 and then type 'all' I get a screen that asks where my copy of Mandrake is and lists 1. cd 2. hard drive 3. network and my keyboard works fine here, I am able to choose cd. But this screen just takes me to the 'text installation' screen where neither keyboard or mouse work again. In the installation manual it mentions something about plug 'n play items but I checked my BIOS and there doesn't seem to be a setting to enable/disable plug 'n play. I'm using USB mouse/keyboard. If there is any other info that anyone needs in order to lend a hand please let me know as I am quite eager to begin my journey into Linux! Thanks and much obliged, Greg On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:00:27 -0400, Randy Kramer wrote: Greg, I was confused the first time I read your note, but now it sounds like all you really want to do is install Mandrake 7.2 in a dual boot configuration on a machine that already has Windows 2000 Server installed. Is that correct? If so, let us know -- I think (unless there is something tricky about Windows 2000), that is fairly easy to do and sort of the standard Linux installation. You shrink your existing windows partition, then create new partitions for Linux. These new partitions can be ext2 or any other valid Linux type partition. (I'm not trying to give you the step by step here -- if what I described is what you're trying to accomplish, the standard step by step is available -- write back if you need help -- somebody will be able to help you.) Or, are you trying to run some Linux applications while you are running windows? If so, let us know which ones -- some can be done (with Cygwin for instance) and others I suspect cannot be done. regards, Randy Kramer Greg Partin wrote: I'm running Windows 2000 Server on my machine now so I believe that I cannot use linx4win. Is this true? The only 2 options are to use NTFS and FAT when installing Windows 2000 Server. I'm having a really difficult time with the installation on top of this. Whenever I try the graphical installation the mouse does not work and whenever I try the text installation the keyboard does not work. I looked at the BIOS to see if there was anywhere to turn of Plug 'n Play but I don't seem to have an option (is it called something else that I may not know?). Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Greg On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:21:23 +, civileme wrote: On Monday 09 July 2001 19:27, Greg Partin wrote: Hi folks, Is it possible to install Mandrake 7.2 on a system with NTFS as its file allocation method? If not, is it possible to switch to FAT without having to reinstall everything? Thanks and much obliged. Greg The NTFS filesystem, no. It is proprietary and secret and our best drivers just read and (experimenatlly write to it) It is possible to do a system with FAT, but a very bad idea. ext2 keeps fragmentation low by design, and doesn't use a defragmenter, and there are none currently available under linux for FAT32, and , as often as linux hits the disk with small (less than 1k) files, FAT32 would be overwhelmed and severely fragmented in just a day or two. Windows would directly see those partitions and complain that they were malformed or contained corrupt data and some wizard would likely offer to fix them. Or windows would flat refuse to boot on a dual boot system because all the corrupt filesystems would first have to be formatted. You can achieve a similar effect by using lnx4win. Civileme ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Greg Partin 3848 Lyons Rd. apt#204 Coconut Creek, FL 33073 (954) 957-9137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Greg Partin 3848 Lyons Rd. apt#204 Coconut Creek, FL 33073 (954) 957-9137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
RE: [newbie] Logs!!
Sure, it can be useful to anyone,, it has all the features of ext2, but alot more.. 1. it is faster, albiet not hugely so. 2. It handles crashes and resets much better, ususally with no probs at all. (I have never had any at all.) 3. It doesn't defrag at all, at least not enough to effect anything... If they are not enough to justify use, I don't know what is.. as to where to get it... you aleady have it.. when you format your drives in mandrake setup. you can select reiserFS, instead of ext2.. if you do that, it will do everying else for you... Thats all there is too it... (I think there is also ext3, which is a similiar filesystem to reiserfs...but I have not tried it yet.) hope this helps regards Frank -Original Message- From: Charles A. Punch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2001 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rules Address for MDK Subject: Re: [newbie] Logs!! ranki wrote: nope, reiserfs is a replacement for ext2.. its a new type of journaling filesystem... I am using it on my boxes,, it has some benefits, no defrag, and it remembers its good state, Would reiserfs have any advantage for a single user, or is it for networking? If so, where can I get it and please share any relevant info. Does it affect speed at all? My desktop box in it's current state runs pretty well (1.2ghz and 512 mb), but my laptop only has 80 mb of ram and is sharing 2gb with windows. It is actually pretty fast considering, but I am spoiled by my desktop and I am looking for anything that may speed it up. ShalomOut Chal Registered Linux user #217118 Windows eats itself
RE: [newbie] Installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus program - How do you enable it?
type locate AvpDaemon if your locate db has updated lately, it will tell you where the file is,, then go there, and type,,, ./AvpDaemon that would probably do the trick... regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 9:01 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus program - How do you enable it? Hi everybody, This is in reference to the rpm installation of the Kaskpersky Anti Virus program. For some reason it does not append itself to the menu bar. More importantly, how do I know that it is running? According to the Readme.txt file, at the command prompt, I'm supposed to type in: AvpDaemon [option] and so on. However, Bash does not recognize the command. What am I doing wrong? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] install on NTFS
Greg, I don't know that I can help technically, but I'm just going to resummarize your problem so that maybe someone else can: - Trying to install Mandrake 7.2 on a machine with Win2k server - Using a USB mouse and keyboard -- hmm, I've never used one -- anybody know if that works with Mandrake 7.2? - Insert Mandrake CD, boot, hit enter for standard graphical install - In graphical install, mouse does not work (how about keyboard?) - Reboot, type text for text install then keyboard stops working (how about mouse?) - Reboot, type all, choose CD, takes you to the text installation, neither mouse nor keyboard work. Hopefully somebody else knows -- I'm guessing Mandrake 7.2 (or at least the install program) has trouble with USB -- do you have a non USB mouse or keyboard you can try? Good luck, hopefully somebody will chip in with more helpful info. Randy Kramer Greg Partin wrote: Yes, all i'm trying to do is install Mandrake 7.2 in a dual boot config. I am unable to use lnx4win because Win2k Server does not support it (or it does not support win2k server I should say). I insert Mandrake into my drive, boot up and press Enter. I get the standard graphical install screen but my mouse does not work. I try rebooting and pressing F1 and then type 'text' but then my keyboard does not work. If I boot up, press F1 and then type 'all' I get a screen that asks where my copy of Mandrake is and lists 1. cd 2. hard drive 3. network and my keyboard works fine here, I am able to choose cd. But this screen just takes me to the 'text installation' screen where neither keyboard or mouse work again. In the installation manual it mentions something about plug 'n play items but I checked my BIOS and there doesn't seem to be a setting to enable/disable plug 'n play. I'm using USB mouse/keyboard. If there is any other info that anyone needs in order to lend a hand please let me know as I am quite eager to begin my journey into Linux!
Re: [newbie] Single User.
Tim, Unless you have specifically enabled a password for lilo configuration or have (I think) selected the high Mandrake security option, it will boot single user with no password. The only time it does require a password at boot, iirc, is when you attempt to boot after a system has suffered a hard crash (ie, power loss) on an ext2fs install with more problems than the automated e2fsck can handle -- I'm sure civilme or one of the others will correct me if I'm wrong here. The other way around this of course, is to install sudo and have your user account able to access root that way. This way, even if you forget the root password, you have a way to change it. Michael Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:57 PM 07/09/2001 -0400, Tim Holmes wrote: But doesn't it still ask you for the passwd? I haven't logged into single user mode in a very long time. I can't remember. But I thought it still asks you for the root passwd. I could be wrong of course. tdh | Jaime, | | Try linux single at the boot prompt (if you are using lilo), not sure how | grub handles it. Then of course, it is as simple as typing in passwd root, | the new passwd twice, and then init 3 (5 if you want to boot into Xwindows). | | Michael | | -- | Michael Viron | Registered Linux User #81978 | Senior Systems Administration Consultant | Web Spinners, University of West Florida | | At 02:19 PM 07/09/2001 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hello all. | | How to boot a single user ? | | forgot root password | | | Jaime Rafael Cabrera | | | -- -- +- \./ | Tim Holmes -- em@il: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0Y0) | Real men us Vi! -ooO--(_)--Ooo--+- Uptime: 9:57PM up 2 days, 7:12, 3 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail problem
To start out, run this command. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ rpm -qa | grep fetchmail fetchmail-5.7.4-5mdk [timh@r2d2 timh]$ which fetchmailconf which: no fetchmailconf in (SNIP) Now that I look at it, I'm not sure why my workstation doesn't have the daemon installed, but here's what your *should* look like. [timh@ericekong timh]$ rpm -qa | grep fetchmail fetchmail-daemon-5.7.4-5mdk fetchmail-5.7.4-5mdk fetchmailconf-5.7.4-5mdk Now on my machine, I don't need fetchmailconf. I've worked with it enough that I just right my own /root/.fetchmailrc and don't need the aid of the GUI. If you find that those are not installed, break out your CDs and install them from there. The RPMs should be on one of the CDs. Matter-o-fact I'm sure they are. -- Install Disc -- [root@r2d2 RPMS] pwd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS [root@r2d2 RPMS] ls fetchm* fetchmail-5.7.4-5mdk.i586.rpm -- Extensions Disc -- [root@r2d2 RPMS2] ls fetchm* fetchmail-daemon-5.7.4-5mdk.i586.rpm fetchmailconf-5.7.4-5mdk.i586.rpm Install those and then try running your fetchmailconf to configure your /root/.fetchmailrc. At which point I'd suggest you do two things. 1) Use the command fetchmail -d (time interval) 2) Make the interval higher then 15 seconds, and add more time for each account you have specified. If you have one account, a fetchmail -d 15 will do the trick for you. But you have to keep in mind that some mail servers have issues. Not all ISPs keep theirs updated so it may go down for a few minutes here or there. Meanwhile fetchmail is happy to go ahead and download the mail, but the server isn't responding. It then hasn't timed out when it's supposed to download mail again. As well as a lot of mail servers are *BSD machines. Some use Qmail, and if you start the download, and then start another, it will create a lock file. Some need to be removed manually, or give it like 10 minutes. So if a friend sends you a 5 MG MPEG of something, you start to download it, and then 5 seconds later it tries again. You can cause problems. I only download the mail on my workstation once every 3 minutes. That gives me plenty of time, and the personal email that's downloaded there can wait 3 minutes for me to get ahold of it. Our other two servers that use fetchmail to download mail from lists and the like, usually wait about 20 seconds since there tons of lines in our .fetchmailrc file. Hope that helps, let me know if ya need any more help. Again I've used fetchmail quite a lot, so I may be able to help ya. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 10:10PM up 5 days, 1:16, 4 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 | I have fetchmail configured (using fetchmailconf) to fetch my email | (typical ISP email) every 5 minutes. For about ten minutes, it worked | great, as it always had on previous installations of Mandrake I've had | (currently I've dropped back from 8.0 to 7.2). But for some reason, it | stopped working. I have absolutely no idea what I did, but when I boot | Linux, and type fetchmail, it acts like its starting, it shows up in top | and kpm, but it doesn't actually do anything. | | So, I try to bring up fetchmailconf, to see if maybe something went | wrong, and here's what I get: | | [rog@ool-18be8465 rog]$ | Traceback (innermost last): | File /usr/bin/fetchmailconf, line 1841, in ? | hostname = socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname())[0] | socket.error: host not found | [rog@ool-18be8465 rog]$ | | I really have no idea what the above is telling me, but uninstalling and | reinstalling the rpms for fetchmail didn't work, and neither did | updating them. I looked at the fetchmailrc file, and all looked as it | should, but it still doesn't work. If I run the command to have it just | see if there's any mail waiting for me on the server, that works, if | that's any help... | | Any suggestions? | -- Your Fortune Second Law of Business Meetings: If there are two possible ways to spell a person's name, you will pick the wrong one. Corollary: If there is only one way to spell a name, you will spell it wrong, anyway.
Re: [newbie] Single User.
Ah... thanks Michael. I couldn't remember what the case was. Like I said, it's been a long time since I've had to login as single user. And that time was for a hardware configuration issue. So I had to login that way and edit a config file so I could then continue on. But I know my root passwd! :0) My problems is remember the root passwd, which is pretty much different across the board, for 6 *nix boxes! But now I have my installs almost down to a build. I mean I don't even bother to install the telnet server or other things like FTP for security reasons on plain workstations! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! Uptime: 10:44PM up 5 days, 1:50, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Tim, | | Unless you have specifically enabled a password for lilo configuration or | have (I think) selected the high Mandrake security option, it will boot | single user with no password. The only time it does require a password at | boot, iirc, is when you attempt to boot after a system has suffered a hard | crash (ie, power loss) on an ext2fs install with more problems than the | automated e2fsck can handle -- I'm sure civilme or one of the others will | correct me if I'm wrong here. The other way around this of course, is to | install sudo and have your user account able to access root that way. This | way, even if you forget the root password, you have a way to change it. | | Michael | | Michael Viron | Registered Linux User #81978 | Senior Systems Administration Consultant | Web Spinners, University of West Florida | | At 09:57 PM 07/09/2001 -0400, Tim Holmes wrote: | But doesn't it still ask you for the passwd? I haven't logged into | single user mode in a very long time. I can't remember. But I thought | it still asks you for the root passwd. I could be wrong of course. | tdh -- Your Fortune First Law of Bicycling: No matter which way you ride, it's uphill and against the wind.
[newbie] PPP Dialler
Hi All, Does there seem to be a problem with the ppp dialler set-up running gnome 1.4 under Mandrake 8. I have previously installed Mandrake 8 with the KDE desktop option and had set-up the dialler up in a matter of minutes. Has anybody else had a problem in this area or suggestions as to how to get it up and running, my only other option would be to re install and back to the KDE structure. A friend of mine is running Redhat 7.1 , she has successfully installed and set-up the gnome ppp dialler with that distro. I can't see why they should be different. Thanks Chris
RE: [newbie] deleting contents of a file
Using echo effectively creates a new file with new permissions. My preference is to use tail to tail the file over itself. I.E. #tail oldfile oldfile This preserves all existing permissions and ownerships. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Craig Westerman Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:27 PM To: Mandrake Newbie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] deleting contents of a file Dan, Many people suggested removing the file and then recreating a new empty file. While not difficult, that does take a little more time. Your method is much simpler and very quick. I just tried it on a log file and it works great. Can anyone give me a reason why this method might cause problems? Thanks Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig-- On Monday 09 July 2001 01:20 am, Craig Westerman wrote: Is there a linux command that will remove the contents of a file, but leave the file name? Echo an empty string into it: $ echo '' filename.txt That '' is a pair of single-quotes, incidentally. It's sort of hard to see that in some fonts... -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
[newbie] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
Dear friends: This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could just select Everything, relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy leisurely exploring its riches. Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option right now before I go really batty. Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] PPPOE/Roaring Penguin/Network card
./go is the install command for the rp-pppoe software, but after
re-installing linux i realized that i don't even need to install it off of
cd (as it's already included).. therefore, no more need for ./go
Have assigned my nic all the info below, have run adsl-setup, still no go.
Module is listed in modules.conf, and the messages log indicates close to
the following when trying to connect through adsl-start.. i don't know if
this will be any help:
:pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid0
:using interface ppp0
:connect pppo--/dev/pts/2
:LCP Timeout sending Config-Request
:Connection terminated
Also, get message in messages log file as follows pertaining to this
:Timeout waiting for PADO packets
As a fyi, when i make the request to connect (adsl-start), neither my dsl
modem nor my nic lights flash at all. Also, even though ifconfig shows my
nic fine on eth0, my network card doesn't show up in the Mandrake Control
Panel under network cards.. I don't know if this matters or not. It's a
DLink DFE 530TX PCI if that helps any.
Again, thanks to any who can help.
Scott
Well, I'm wondering what this ./go is. I'm not familiar with that. If
you
assign your nic 192.168.0.1 or whatever, submask (like: 255.255.255.0),
name
your dns in linuxconf, then in a terminal type: adsl-setup; Fill in the
blanks, then type adsl-start; you should be good to go. If it don't
connect,
make sure the module for your nic is listed in modules.conf and look in
/var/log/messages at the error(s). {Flame time here, but: then reboot
and
try connecting again.} If no luck, post your errors.
-s
On Tuesday 03 July 2001 12:22 am, you wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm having problems getting my PPPOE connection going in Linux (MDK
8.0).
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Any ideas as to how to get my PPPOE connection going? Thanks
Scott
[newbie] irda config
Hi, I was checking out the dell-laptops-linux group at yahoo and someone posted his irda configuration. It was for a Debian installation. Does anyone have any idea how to set up irda on an Inspiron 8000? It is turned on in bios. Thanks, Bill W.
[newbie] Fetchmail problem
I have fetchmail configured (using fetchmailconf) to fetch my email (typical ISP email) every 5 minutes. For about ten minutes, it worked great, as it always had on previous installations of Mandrake I've had (currently I've dropped back from 8.0 to 7.2). But for some reason, it stopped working. I have absolutely no idea what I did, but when I boot Linux, and type fetchmail, it acts like its starting, it shows up in top and kpm, but it doesn't actually do anything. So, I try to bring up fetchmailconf, to see if maybe something went wrong, and here's what I get: [rog@ool-18be8465 rog]$ Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/bin/fetchmailconf, line 1841, in ? hostname = socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname())[0] socket.error: host not found [rog@ool-18be8465 rog]$ I really have no idea what the above is telling me, but uninstalling and reinstalling the rpms for fetchmail didn't work, and neither did updating them. I looked at the fetchmailrc file, and all looked as it should, but it still doesn't work. If I run the command to have it just see if there's any mail waiting for me on the server, that works, if that's any help... Any suggestions?
[newbie] Installed Kaspersky Anti-Virus program - How do you enable it?
Hi everybody, This is in reference to the rpm installation of the Kaskpersky Anti Virus program. For some reason it does not append itself to the menu bar. More importantly, how do I know that it is running? According to the Readme.txt file, at the command prompt, I'm supposed to type in: AvpDaemon [option] and so on. However, Bash does not recognize the command. What am I doing wrong? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] Single User.
But doesn't it still ask you for the passwd? I haven't logged into single user mode in a very long time. I can't remember. But I thought it still asks you for the root passwd. I could be wrong of course. tdh | Jaime, | | Try linux single at the boot prompt (if you are using lilo), not sure how | grub handles it. Then of course, it is as simple as typing in passwd root, | the new passwd twice, and then init 3 (5 if you want to boot into Xwindows). | | Michael | | -- | Michael Viron | Registered Linux User #81978 | Senior Systems Administration Consultant | Web Spinners, University of West Florida | | At 02:19 PM 07/09/2001 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hello all. | | How to boot a single user ? | | forgot root password | | | Jaime Rafael Cabrera | | | -- -- +- \./ | Tim Holmes -- em@il: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0Y0) | Real men us Vi! -ooO--(_)--Ooo--+- Uptime: 9:57PM up 2 days, 7:12, 3 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00
Re: [newbie] stupid mandrake won't launch realplaer 8
Mandrake wrote: Bull shit, it can't decide what it don't want to listen to you luser On Monday 09 July 2001 05:12 am, so spoke steve campbell: Well assuming you installed it from the rpm ...realplay should be in.. /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay so either you installed the wrong one or you fscked it up. So it isn't stupid mandrake that YOU don't want to listen to, it is stupid lusers IT doesn't want to listen to. Hi, What problems are you encountering with RealPlayer8? In the meantime, check /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay My rpm installed into that directory. I'll wait for a response and we can take it from there. Ok? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] mutli platform html editor
Kevin Fonner wrote: Are there any decent web page editors that are compatable with bot linux and windows. What I mean is a program with binarys for both platforms. Thanks Kevin Hi Kevin, I recently downloaded IBM's WebSphere Homepage Builder from www.ibm.com and it works great. They have a Linux and Windows version. The price is around $69 US. A 60 day trial copy can be found by using the following link: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2001-06-13+13%3A10%3A53.117321Rcat=ads=c Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
[newbie] mouse single click treat as double click
hi, my mouse act strangely today. i have been using mandake 8.0 for about half a year. and today my mouse act very strange, everytime i single click using the left button, sometimes they send a double click signal. i mean, if i click one time, almost 70% of the time the mandrake or the mouse will take it as a double clicks. strange huh! this strange behaviour always happen to me after i use mandrake for about quite sometime (few weeks). this thing also happened to me before, and because i reinstalled mandrake, all go back to normal. but after a while, the mouse will act strangely again. any solution? thanks in advance -- Nothing ever becomes real until it is experienced. - John Keats
[newbie] Steps on how to get the streaming audio/video RealPlayer working in Linux
Hi everybody, I have read a number of emails that RealPlayer is not working including requests on how to add the MIME entries to get RealPlayer working. It appears that www.real.com provides insufficient information about turning on the streaming video and audio. You must add several MIME entries to Netscape for the streaming media/video and audio to work. Hopefully, in the future www.real.com will improve their installation script so that the user will not have to add them in manually. I have found that the Plug In Plugger 3.2 does NOT work adequately. The original instructions applied to users that downloaded the .bin version of RealPlayer6, 7 and 8 in Netscape. However, if you have installed the rpm version of RealPlayer, the default application path is different. The entire instructions are as follows: FYI For the .bin installations: Default application path: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay For the rpm installations: Default application path: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay Very Important: The %s switch activates the streaming feature in RealPlayer. If you do not add %s after realplay, it will NOT work. Start up Netscape: Select Edit-Preferences-Navigator-Applications 1. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealMedia File MIMEType: application/vnd.rn-realmedia Suffixes: .rm Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s The .bin default application path is shown above. The rpm default application path is shown below: Application: /usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 2. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealVideo File MIMEType: video/vnd.rn-realvideo Suffixes: .rv Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 3. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File MIMEType: audio/vnd.rn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 4. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: RealAudio File 2 MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio Suffixes: .ra, .ram Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 5. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: Live365 MIMEType: audio/x-scpls Suffixes: .pls Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 6. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio MIMEType: audio/mpeg Suffixes: Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. 7. Select the New button to call up a new MIME type. Enter the following settings: Description: MPEG Audio 2 MIMEType: audio/x-mpegurl Suffixes: .m3u Application: /usr/local/RealPlayer8/realplay %s Click on the OK buttons to confirm the entry. Select File-Exit Restart your web browser. During the first start up you may be prompted for your email address, country of origin and postal code or zip code address. You MUST fill in these fields to get RealPlayer working for the first time. That's it! Now you are ready to enjoy, music and especially streaming audio and video. Please make a print out of this for future reference. If you lose the instructions, you can find a link to one of my original postings by clicking on the link below: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg63504.html Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
Miark wrote: I initially thought that Civileme's post was just a bit over the top. After reading this, however, I think he was pretty-much spot-on. I suggest that if Judith wants something more like Windows, she have a look at other OSs like MacOS, OS/2 or BeOS. OS/2 is a single-user OS, and it has quite a few good applications written for it (many of them ports from *nix). I used to run it back in the Warp 3 days (around 1995). [rest snipped] I thought Civileme's post was brilliant. But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) The Linux community (and especially the Newbie Mandrake community) requires an attitude support, cooperation, and thankfulness. To miss on any of these three things just drags us down, and introduces FUD. We don't need that, and as Civileme did so skillfully, we need to set it straight when it creeps in. Bravo, Civileme. Miark I second that. Good feedback from Civileme. Hang in there, you're doing a great job. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
