Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-12 Thread John Richard Smith
Marc Resnick wrote:

Last time I tried to make a partition to give Linux more hard drive space, I 
completely screwed up Linux. Here's my plan for doing it this time. If 
there's anything I might screw up by doing this, please tell me.

1. Use Partition Magic in windows to resize my NTFS Windows Partition.

2. Boot Linux, use Diskdrake to create a partition from the free space, place 
it at the end of the sector.(I want to use Linux to do this so it 'knows' 
that I added this partition. Last time I think the problem was that it took 
mdk by surprise, screwing up the labels.)

3. Do ln /home/marc /mnt/nameofpartition

Sound good?

I would not do this.
If windows and linux are on the same hard drive then use PM for all 
partitoning.

If they are on seperate hard drives use PM on windows HD,
and diskdrake on Linux HD.
If you use PM on windblows HD then format all partitions initially with 
FAT32 and let PM give each partition a volume lable.

Then, when in diskdrake of Linux install, reformat the already 
partitioned HD with linux formatting tools, but don't let it do any 
partitioning itself.

If you have a linux only HD, then use diskdrake to do both partition and 
formatting.

So plan what you are going to do and follow that scheme of things.

The one thing I always avoid is mixing partition tools on the same hard 
drive.
Others disagree with me, but I have always found this to be the case and 
doing
this I avoid all kinds of messups that take 5 times as much time to 
repair than if
I had taken an 'n'th more time and trouble in the first place.

I believe there are good solid reasons not to mix partition tools on the 
same HD.
It is not just the method used to calculate partition sizes, but dos 
naming conventions
as well. Hmm, you might say , who cares about dos naming convention, dos 
is history.
Not so, some modern OS's still need certain uptodate dos naming conventions,

eg. One primary. One extended dos partition, containing any number of 
logical
dos partitions) old dos naming convention does not follow that pattern.
I believe Diskdrake does the old dos naming convention and can be the 
cause of grief.
So Diskdrake creates,
Up to 4 primary dos partitions, one extended containing any number of 
logicals.

At the end of the day you want hard drives whose partitioning sizing is 
consistantly
measured. Hard drives that follow modern dos naming convention.

I have always followed the abovementioned rules and find them to be 
trouble free.

No install refusals, no messed up partitions wasteful in dead HD space.

I had a tiny old HD that I partition entirely with W2K just to see what 
dos naming
convention resulted , that is how I learnt about modern dos naming 
convention.
Then of course if I had usedthe old dos fdisk I can choose , but neither 
of these two
partition tools can save existing data. So don't bother with them.

If you have PM use it on the windblows HD to do all partitioning and 
initally format them
with FAT32 and give the partitions a volume lable. then format the 
partitions allocated
to linux with diskdrake during the linux install.

John







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RE: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-12 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Marc,

When creating partitions on Linux, they run with numbers, and they go in order. You 
fstab uses these numbers to mount the partitions. If you create a new partition at the 
end of the drive it will get a number after the last partition, i.e. last part is 12 
new will be 13. If you create the new partition before the last partition, all 
partitions after the new one will increment by one. So new part is 8 and old part 8 
turns to 9 etc. This will mess up fstab. You will need to manually edit this before 
rebooting your box if you use diskdrake. You might find that diskdrake will do this 
for you (not used it for ages so not sure). Hope this is clear enough.

Tony.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.


Last time I tried to make a partition to give Linux more hard drive space, I 
completely screwed up Linux. Here's my plan for doing it this time. If 
there's anything I might screw up by doing this, please tell me.

1. Use Partition Magic in windows to resize my NTFS Windows Partition.

2. Boot Linux, use Diskdrake to create a partition from the free space, place 
it at the end of the sector.(I want to use Linux to do this so it 'knows' 
that I added this partition. Last time I think the problem was that it took 
mdk by surprise, screwing up the labels.)

3. Do ln /home/marc /mnt/nameofpartition


Sound good? 
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RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread Dale Kosan
So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use
to do it? Thanks in advance



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RE: [newbie] Urpmi Strange Behavour

2004-02-12 Thread Tony S. Sykes
When I see this normally it is due to the site's being slow/down. Can you view it in a 
browser?

Tony.

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Subject: [newbie] Urpmi Strange Behavour


When I try to do a urpmi .update -a
it hangs like this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]# urpmi.update -a
computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis)
examining MD5SUM file
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis)
examining MD5SUM file
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz]
for a Lng time
any ideasThanks
 smitty 
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[newbie] sort of OT but nice to see

2004-02-12 Thread Poogle
My local PC World (Derby, U.K.) has both Discovery  Powerpack on the shelves 
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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Kaplan
1. downloaded all the 9.2 rpms to a directory (including libs and qt3.2)
2. separated out those that I didn't want to install to a subdirectory
3. cd to the directory with the rpms you want to install
4. tested the remaining rpms with rpm -Uvh *.rpm --test
5. resolved the dependencies (some were in the excluded directory, some I had 
to track down on rpmseek.com or rpmfind.net) by adding the appropriate rpms 
to the directory and retesting.
6. installed with rpm -Uvh *.rpm
7. renamed original ~/.kde directory from 3.1 installation
8. restarted kde
(I boot to runlevel three so I start with startx rather than using a display 
manager so I can't help with that piece)
This isn't as elegant as with urpmi, but in only took about 15 minutes (with a 
fast internet connection to deal with #5), but I've had no problems since 
installation.

On Thursday 12 February 2004 11:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote:
 So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use
 to do it? Thanks in advance


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[newbie] How To Go About Installing Any Distro On A G5

2004-02-12 Thread Ronald Valente
I am trying just to boot the install I cannot get it to load yaboot 
audomatically and when it does there is a kernal panic. I got the 
latest...2.6.11b
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Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:33, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 Please bear in mind I dont speak mandrake and linux poorly.  What should I
 do to the /etc/inittab file???

Quite frankly, you don't have to speak Mandrake lingo but it would help if you 
read the answers you get, better.

I posted about 3 answers back in this thread, how you could edit the 
/etc/inittab file along with some other options.

I didn't repeat the process of explaining again, expecting you to have read 
it. 

Anyhow here's the part again:
.
As an extra resort: Boot into failsafe and edit /etc/inittab there's a line 
there at the beginning that reads:

id:5:initdefault:

Change the 5 to 3, save the file and reboot.

You'll need vi to edit that file or: install the wonderful Midnight 
Commander (mc) with urpmi mc and then type mc to fire it up.
Find the /etct/inittab file and open it for editing using F4 and saving it 
with F2.It's a clone of the Norton Commander so if you've ever used that 
(or dosshell or wincommander) you'll feel right at home:)

Luck needs to be pushed,
.

Good luck,
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RE: [newbie] Matrix screensaver-stick to Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Ken Walker
Before you wipe off Debian, make a disk image, you may be going back to it.

I recently installed 9.2 ( last week ) onto my laptop which loved MDK8.2. I
wanted to know what this wonderful new version had to offer. So I ticked
everything. 

On reboot, it wouldn't set-up my video or network. It gave me three games,
yes 3!. And when I did a security update it said there was 179Mb to
download, then I did a software update, that said there was 110mb to
download. And after all that I went back to 8.2, installed no prob, set-up
me video and network by itself.

Anybody tried Knoppix, why can't MDK be anything like their install ? It set
up my onboard LAN with dhcp, my wireless pcmcia via dhcp, set the correct
screen resolution, all my external usb devices AND ALL THIS RUNNING FROM A
CD. with NO user intervention. Now if Knoppix did a disk install version (
yes I know it can all be copied from the cd to the HD ) it would be the biz
:o)

-Original Message-
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Sent: 11 February 2004 10:50:pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Matrix screensaver


Before I go ahead and wipe Debian off my laptop and replace it with MDK
I'd like to know if I can use the rather nice Matrix screensaver that is
in KDE, if not where can it be found? 

I seem to have a rather basic graphics card and it can't handle most of
the screensavers in kdeartwork.

I downloaded xscreensaver-4.12-1mdk.i586.rpm, but I'm not sure if (a) I
already have it or (b) it's going to contain more high-graphic content.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Lexx

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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-12 Thread Marc Resnick
On Thursday 12 February 2004 05:20 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Marc Resnick wrote:
 Last time I tried to make a partition to give Linux more hard drive space,
  I completely screwed up Linux. Here's my plan for doing it this time. If
  there's anything I might screw up by doing this, please tell me.
 
 1. Use Partition Magic in windows to resize my NTFS Windows Partition.
 
 2. Boot Linux, use Diskdrake to create a partition from the free space,
  place it at the end of the sector.(I want to use Linux to do this so it
  'knows' that I added this partition. Last time I think the problem was
  that it took mdk by surprise, screwing up the labels.)
 
 3. Do ln /home/marc /mnt/nameofpartition
 
 
 Sound good?

 I would not do this.
 If windows and linux are on the same hard drive then use PM for all
 partitoning.

 If they are on seperate hard drives use PM on windows HD,
 and diskdrake on Linux HD.

 If you use PM on windblows HD then format all partitions initially with
 FAT32 and let PM give each partition a volume lable.

 Then, when in diskdrake of Linux install, reformat the already
 partitioned HD with linux formatting tools, but don't let it do any
 partitioning itself.

 If you have a linux only HD, then use diskdrake to do both partition and
 formatting.


 So plan what you are going to do and follow that scheme of things.

 The one thing I always avoid is mixing partition tools on the same hard
 drive.
 Others disagree with me, but I have always found this to be the case and
 doing
 this I avoid all kinds of messups that take 5 times as much time to
 repair than if
 I had taken an 'n'th more time and trouble in the first place.

 I believe there are good solid reasons not to mix partition tools on the
 same HD.
 It is not just the method used to calculate partition sizes, but dos
 naming conventions
 as well. Hmm, you might say , who cares about dos naming convention, dos
 is history.
 Not so, some modern OS's still need certain uptodate dos naming
 conventions,

 eg. One primary. One extended dos partition, containing any number of
 logical
 dos partitions) old dos naming convention does not follow that pattern.
 I believe Diskdrake does the old dos naming convention and can be the
 cause of grief.
 So Diskdrake creates,
 Up to 4 primary dos partitions, one extended containing any number of
 logicals.

 At the end of the day you want hard drives whose partitioning sizing is
 consistantly
 measured. Hard drives that follow modern dos naming convention.


 I have always followed the abovementioned rules and find them to be
 trouble free.

 No install refusals, no messed up partitions wasteful in dead HD space.

 I had a tiny old HD that I partition entirely with W2K just to see what
 dos naming
 convention resulted , that is how I learnt about modern dos naming
 convention.
 Then of course if I had usedthe old dos fdisk I can choose , but neither
 of these two
 partition tools can save existing data. So don't bother with them.

 If you have PM use it on the windblows HD to do all partitioning and
 initally format them
 with FAT32 and give the partitions a volume lable. then format the
 partitions allocated
 to linux with diskdrake during the linux install.


 John


John,
I'm partly afraid of using Partition Magic now. Last time I created a FAT32 
partition, I couldn't delete it. I permanently(or at least permanently for my 
knowledge) screwed up fstab, and had to reinstall linux, then use diskdrake 
to successfully delete the partition. But If I just resize the NTFS partition 
with PM, I could safely use diskdrake to create the partition at the end of 
the Extended, am I correct?

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Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop????

2004-02-12 Thread di di
Charlie, thanks for your answer
By the way, can you give any mirror to get that new cooker?
Fabian.



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 hello there...

 i just downloaded the isos of mdk 10 -3 cds- then i installed givinig no
 errors during it...but it doesnt load the new kde 3.2, it just appear 
the
 root login.

 anyone know anything about this

 thanks.

 fabian.

Update to the latest cooker, you'll get 3.2 and a lot more.

It will be a LOT of updates so I hope you have a broadband connection.

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 01:25, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
Hehe, looks you found itforget my grumble, grumble mail on the 
/etc/innitab issue..sorry;)

 Thanks I am well acquainted with vi but not mc.  Anyway it worked I loged
 into a text screen issued startx,  as me,  and was automatically loged into
 gnome.  Took a minute and 24 sec to log out (the problem with gnome).  Now
 how do I get into KDE to reset the autologin mode?

If/when youre in init 3 as su/root type init 5 which should offer you a 
graphical login and an option to choose the windowmanager option.

You could try typing startkde but I doubt if it'll work.
If you want to have a choice of windowmanagers from the console install Xtart.
urpmi xtart.

From gnome you should be able to open a control center session too.
Open an xterm, and type mcc and you'll be prompted for the password if you 
aren't root.

 I'm better acquanted with UNIX, as a user, on a desktop.(1975 version)

  Luck needs to be pushed,

 Aint it the truth.

 A second question.  Do you know of any text that explains how mandrake
 works,  I'v looked in amazon and on the site?  I'm looking for something
 mandrake specific.

There used to be some tutorial demo's on the mandrake site, mostly 9.0 based.
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/demos/

Take a look at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 for .pdf/html files

Beside that, Mandrake is a straightforward linux distrib and most of the 
solutions I've offered up to now wouldn't be much different on say a 
Slackware box. That's not counting the Mandrake specific tools or wizards of 
course.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread lanman
On February 12, 2004 06:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote:
 So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use
 to do it? Thanks in advance
 
First, I'd like to apoligise to anyone who took my advice when installing KDE 
3.2. I made a serious Boo-Boo when i said that you could un-install your old 
KDE 3.1 and install 3.2 instead.

I've just spent the last 4 hours fixing my own silly mistake, and now I know 
better! Don't un-install KDE 3.1 !! Just install KDE 3.2 using Mandrake 
Control CenterSoftware ManagementSoftware Installer.

One thing to remember though, is that you should be running MCC from a 
different desktop than KDE when you do this!!! I logged into GNome to do mine 
and had no problems, but staying in the KDE environment while you're trying 
to upgrade KDE is probably a bad idea.

Make sure that you've added your RPM source location to URPMI, and once you're 
in the Software Installer, go to the All Packages, By Group, and change it 
to All Packages, By Medium Repository. Once the list is displayed, you 
should see your location for KDE 3.2. Open it up and start selecting the 
packages you want to install, and install them.

That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that shouldn't 
be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to refresh your KDE 
desktop menu listing.

I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. 

One interesting thing to mention is that these RPM's were recompiled by 
someone ( VoidStar ?) who intended them for Mandrake 9.2, but they seem to 
install on Mandrake 10.0 Beta 2 flawlessly as well, but here I did them as an 
UPDATE ! For some reason, Mandrake 10.0 Beta2 sees these packages as being 
newer that the ones it already has ! Grin!

Secondly, My ISP called me to let me know that I'm getting close to my monthly 
limit, so I'm going to ask that anyone who has my FTP server as an URPMI 
source to actually download the entire folder, instead of connecting when 
needed. That way you can maintain your own set of packages for KDE 3.2 .

I'll be leaving it available for the next 48 hours, and taking it down on 
Saturday afternoon, so please grab the files a.s.a.p. . Over 60 people have 
logged in to grab the files, and I'm already over half of my monthly limit. 

One final note - I've added a copy of CDBakeoven for those who would like to 
give it a try. Only the one package is required as long as you've installed 
the background software already - cdrecord, cdrdao, etc. from your CD's, and 
I've also added a TexStar folder which contains all the packages to install 
Mozilla with Java, Flash and RealPlayer, as well as their respective plugins. 
You'll have to un-install the Mozilla, Epiphany and libnss packages that you 
already have, but once you have the folder, just browse to the folder and run
urpmi *rpm and it will install everything by itself. If it complains about 
bad or missing signatures, just ignore and continue the install. 

These are original, untouched packages from TexStar, and unless you already 
have his SIG file installed, you'll see the signature warning.  Keep in mind 
that this will install Mozilla 1.4,so you're actually going to downgrade your 
Mozilla browser, but all the plugins work, and the hassles of dependancies 
shouldn't happen.

Lanman

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[newbie] How to setup sending the mails in Kmail

2004-02-12 Thread Christophe
Hello,
I installed the linuxant driver and know I can connect at 14000 bps (I 
test before upgrading to the full version)...
My problem is that I tried to setup Kmail under mandrake 9.2 and 
impossible to send my mails but I can get them.
Is there a special setup for linux because using my infos from windows 
are not working.
Shall I contact my service provider (hope not because I have to talk in 
Turkish... and I'm not got at it :-(  )  or is it a common problem?
Thank you
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Re: [newbie] Matrix screensaver-stick to Debian

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 12:46, Ken Walker wrote:
 Before you wipe off Debian, make a disk image, you may be going back to it.

 I recently installed 9.2 ( last week ) onto my laptop which loved MDK8.2. I
 wanted to know what this wonderful new version had to offer. So I ticked
 everything.

the installer doesn't work like that anymore -it expects some user 
intervention as the amount of options has grown.


 On reboot, it wouldn't set-up my video or network. It gave me three games,

I bet your laptop was using Xfee86 version 3 in 8.2. You have to configure it 
yourself or set the default reolution down to the resolution you need. It's 
set too high for older hardware. 

 yes 3!. And when I did a security update it said there was 179Mb to
 download, then I did a software update, that said there was 110mb to
 download.
Yeah that sucks but then you don't have to download 'em all, just the ones you 
need/use.

 And after all that I went back to 8.2, installed no prob, set-up 
 me video and network by itself.

Yeah, 8.2 was/is the only one ever that recognized ISA soundcards during 
install. All the others require sndconfig and isa-pnp to be installed.


 Anybody tried Knoppix, why can't MDK be anything like their install ? It
 set up my onboard LAN with dhcp, my wireless pcmcia via dhcp, set the
 correct screen resolution, all my external usb devices AND ALL THIS RUNNING
 FROM A CD. with NO user intervention. Now if Knoppix did a disk install
 version ( yes I know it can all be copied from the cd to the HD ) it would
 be the biz

You can install from the knoppix CD too you know, once you have it running. 
Not just CD copying. There's a script hidden somewhere (don't remember where) 
called something like hd_install or the likes. Works a charm:)

BTW; Tried Mandrake-Move yet??

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] python 2.3 - for 9.1?

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 01:15, Todd Slater wrote:
 There's an app I want that requires python 2.3; anybody know if I could
 grab the rpm's for 9.2 and use in 9.1? Or, even better, if there's a
 python 2.3 package for 9.1? I've tried urpmi and rpmfind.net.

 Todd

I think that's what I did at the time, at least I got my 2.3 from cooker.
If it doesn't work you could try building your own from srpm.

I did have quite a lot of fuss getting to run 2.2 and 2.3 simultaneously. 
Uninstall 2.2 before installing 2.3 the PATH variables tend to got messy 
otherwise.
2.3 should be downwards compatible in most cases, anyway.

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Re: [newbie] How to change font setting for man pages

2004-02-12 Thread Wojciech Podgrni
Olivier Esser wrote:

Wojciech Podgrni wrote:

Olivier Esser wrote:

Wojciech Podgrni wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have been searching for the answer of this question for a some 
time and I staill cannot find the answer: how do you change font 
setting for man pages to ISO8859-2 coding?
TIA
Wojciech Podgrni




Where are you reading the man pages. You have to change to encoding 
of the terminal in which you read your man pages. This depend of the 
terminal you are using. You can try to change the encoding globally 
by lauching localedrake

Olivier Esser


I apologise for being imprecise. It looks like my problem is that man 
pager (or the program preprocessing man texts) is wrongly formatting 
Polish man pages and changing native letters to a mess like 9|  
instead of ?, c instead of ?, etc. I was hoping to find such 
settings in man.config to allow me to alter this behavour (because I 
cannot even read fast this thing). No success so far. And this 
behavour appears REGARDLESS of using CLI or terminal (or printed in 
PDF file). Changing the font used in terminal won't help. Even using 
localedrake won't fix it. I guess it must be something with man 
preprocessing settings (but I'm no expert here).
Desperately looking for a help,
Wojciech Podgrni


I am not sure I can help you, but first try to lauch the following 
command

xterm -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-2

I tried. It didn't help.

and try to read a man page; if it display correctly this is a termianl 
problem: you should probably edit ~/.18n and have all locale (or at 
least LC_CTYPE) set to be something like:

LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.ISO-8859-2
I tried that on global settings. Do I have to restart my system to have 
it work? Because a quick try didn't work.



You should replace the fr_FR by the polish code (which I don't know, 
maybe you can change only the LC_CTYPE as mentioned above)

otherwise try to localize the source of the man page: these are in 
/usr/share/man/. and try to see what encoding they have 
(decompress them in order to read them) maybe try to open these in a 
hexadecimal text editor. Are you sure they are written in ISO-8859-2 ?

I have tried that. And the results are weird. I copied Polish version of 
man.1.bz2 to my home folder, upacked it. Opened it with less and 
oowriter and gedit and kwrite. It really IS coded with ISO-8859-2 (or at 
least viewer and all these editors have no problems with Polish letters 
here). I tried to see the content in the compressed file (used 
file-roller and vi) - the same results. When I view compressed man pages 
with mc, I see good Polish letters - and my mc is definitely set to 
ISO-8859-2.
I tried to use man2html and got a page viewable well on lynx but a mess 
on the other, more modern web browsers.
Conclusions:
1. Something must be wrong with my man preformatting settings.
2. man2html on my computer creates lynx (and nothing else)-compatible 
web pages.
3. It looks like if I really want to read Polish man pages, I have to: 
a) change uncompressed man page to html and b) print that page from lynx.

Hoping to having help,

Olivier

Thank you for your help, Olivier. It's the people like you make Linux 
community great.
Wojciech Podgrni


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Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

2004-02-12 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 06:12
Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

FYI:  I think what happened I received a message posted 2 minutes before one
of mine.  I wasnt sure if someones clock was off or not and it was the one
with edit this file without any parameters then I received the one with the
parameters.  Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway problem solved automatic login removed.  Enlightenment removed. Even
gnome problem seems to be gone.  All's well I think I will stay with run
level 3 for a while.  Thanks for your help.

Regards;
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[newbie] dalziel-1.2

2004-02-12 Thread Johan
Hi,
I am a standalone user that does not have practice on networks.
I googled but there don't seem to be any good howto out there.
I would like to understand the workings and learn by it.
Please anybody on this list familiar with dalziel or rsync-plus that could possibly 
change this to be effective on

ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz

*
Dalziel script..

#!/usr/bin/pl -q -t mandrake_updates_9_2_RPMs -f

mandrake_updates_9_2_RPMs:-
  [prolog/mandrake_load],
  mandrake_load,
  mandrake('mandrake_updates_9_2_RPMs','rsync_exclude','--delete',
'rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/',
'/mnt/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/').
***
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Re: [newbie] How to setup sending the mails in Kmail

2004-02-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 12 Feb 2004 12:25 pm, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 I installed the linuxant driver and know I can connect at 14000 bps (I
 test before upgrading to the full version)...
 My problem is that I tried to setup Kmail under mandrake 9.2 and
 impossible to send my mails but I can get them.
 Is there a special setup for linux because using my infos from windows
 are not working.
 Shall I contact my service provider (hope not because I have to talk in
 Turkish... and I'm not got at it :-(  )  or is it a common problem?
 Thank you
 Christophe


No there is nothing special about using a Linux client.
So long as your ISPs server gets what it expects, then it will work.

Some ISPs require authentication when sending, others do not. - If 
authentication is required enter it in your Kmail 'Send' settings

Some ISPs will only let you send immediately after logging in to check for 
received mail. - In that case tick the 'Send messages in Outbox after check' 
button in Kmail setup.

You can check that you can get through to your ISPs mail server by opening a 
terminal and typing

telnet your.isps.mail,server 25
(insert the domain name of your ISPs mail server)

You should see a response back looking something like :-

$ telnet smtp.ntlworld.com 25
Trying 62.253.162.40...
Connected to smtp.ntlworld.com (62.253.162.40).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mta02-svc.ntlworld.com ESMTP server (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 
201-229-121-137-20020806) ready Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:13:37 +


If that does not work you either have entered the name of the server wrong, or 
your DNS lookups are not working in which case you will not be able to browse 
the Internet either, and I am sure you would have mentioned it if you 
couldn't.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 14:00, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 06:12
 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin

 FYI:  I think what happened I received a message posted 2 minutes before
 one of mine.  I wasnt sure if someones clock was off or not and it was the
 one with edit this file without any parameters then I received the one with
 the parameters.  Sorry for the confusion.

 Anyway problem solved automatic login removed.  Enlightenment removed. Even
 gnome problem seems to be gone.  All's well I think I will stay with run
 level 3 for a while.  Thanks for your help.

You're welcome:)
You could set it to init 5 for the graphical log in but I've always felt it 
rather daft to start X twice just to get fired up.
If there are more users on the box who get the riles seeing a commandline it 
could be a solution.

BTW. Xfce is very neat and fast ..and on top; can be started directly from 
the commandline as startxfce 

Have fun,
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[newbie] Gartner: MS Licensing is good for Linux

2004-02-12 Thread JoeHill

Quote:

...if research from analyst Gartner proves to be accurate, Microsoft will lose
desktop market share to other client operating systems such as Linux, as
customers look elsewhere for additional value.

Link:

http://www.computing.co.uk/News/1152713

Another article actually puts a number to it:

at serious risk of further alienating many of its customers with respect to its
licensing terms and conditions, and could lose up to 10 per cent of its desktop
market share by 2008 as a result.

This is a big renewal phase for Microsoft, said Gartner research director Jon
Mein.

Link:

http://www.vnunet.com/News/1152729

So, to all the boys in the MS marketing dept, keep up the good work!

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RE: [newbie] Matrix screensaver-stick to Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Ken Walker
Yep, non-member download version doesn't have the usb pen bit, and it
doesn't do any network set-up or video set-up or etc that works on my lappy.
I would have bought it for the usb bit but the set-up from CD is just
useless. And if I have to set everything up by hand, what's it going to be
like going somewhere else, running it on another desktop or lappy, and
having to set everything up again, and again, and again.

It's not a scratch on Knoppix.

Ken

many thanks for your comments :o)






BTW; Tried Mandrake-Move yet??

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[newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-12 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
Hi!

I am freshly new in this community.
Bored of ms I was looking for a new horizon.
I am a developer and an user of Windows ... so far at
least.
My first impression on Linux is that it is great to be
an open project for everybody can do something.
Also, in time, I had the impression that Linux in
general tries to help some new (formely windows) users
by making an compromise to the GUI to be close to the
ms windows in behavior.
I think it is nice, but a windows user is handicaped
in administering, troubleshooting or - sometimes - in
even using Linux. The hardware producing companies
didn't support Linux by making drivers, some others
request money for that, so you need to look on the net
to find a good guy that made them... 
I am sorry to find that MDK lose the good place in the
charts. I used it since 8 version and it has been the
best comparing it to others in stability (I installed
it on DELL laptop, some PCs and it was the easyest to
use to me).
I understand that all this effort must be financially
rewarded, despite if Linux is famous for being free
for home use at least...
I would like to support it if I'd afford this (I live
in a country where the price of the average package -
let's say 100euros - is the medium salary - and to buy
it is some kind of alien experience - technically and
as mentality).
In my opinion, a support form the users - of the 98.5%
that do not pay - a support form the users of 5 euros
as a donation wouldn't be a big expense, but a great
support for the company. Take it as suggestion. Don't
you like to reward the people that provided you a
great OS and support? Don't you want to have an OS as
long time you need - I mean to avoid the change of it
because of the company bankruptcy (it was to happen
once last year)?
Also, I would keep all the packages loved by users, I
would provide them as much as it is possible
(affordably) if I want to have them by my side.
On other hand I would try to find a standard in
package content.
But remember: too much backward compatibility kept
leads to a big expense in developing time and
maintenence and in performance. There are some things
that MUST be changed.
Make good concepts and try to invent something, to
create something new like you are trying now on Cooker
and I think you will succeed. 
You users, leave the past behind, think to the future
and try to act like you are new in this field. Use
your experience in gettin rid of the bad conceived and
wrong implemented things!
There are things that are changing free of your will!
Not all these are bad, not all these are right!
Try to filter them!

That's all for the moment and take this as it is : a
new user's thoughs! As time goes by I hope I will get
involved moreto understand you better and maybe to
help you!

(new)Bye!
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Re: [newbie] Matrix screensaver-stick to Debian

2004-02-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 12 February 2004 15:16, Ken Walker wrote:
 It's not a scratch on Knoppix.

 Ken

Agreed, personally I think the slackware live version does a better job than 
Move.faster too. Though I must say, the Chines Dictionary and the games 
are exceptionally cool on knoppix/freeduc:)

Still as somebody stated it's a one nice to test hardware when one's buying 
and wondering how Mandrake will run on it.

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[newbie] Drivers, NIC, Internet...help!

2004-02-12 Thread piagetblix
Hello, I am a returning LInux user from a few years ago and am quite rusty.  I have a 
Shuttle nforce2 mobo with nvidia network adapter. I downloaded the mandrake 9.1 
specific rpm from the nvidia site and did a rpm -ivh. It seemed to install. I am using 
9.2.
What else do I need to do to get this nic working.  The graphical config sees the nic 
but says it is not installed. I have a motorola cable modem connected by ethernet.  If 
someone would walk me through the setup and config of my internet it would be greatly 
appreciated!! Without the net one is handicapped in Linux.  I look forward to grabbing 
the Red Carpet package manager- does anyone have experience with it? Reports claim it 
is great.
Much Thanks in advance!!


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Re: [newbie] Matrix screensaver-stick to Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Thursday 12 February 2004 7:49 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 15:16, Ken Walker wrote:
  It's not a scratch on Knoppix.
 
  Ken

 Agreed, personally I think the slackware live version does a better job
 than Move.faster too. Though I must say, the Chines Dictionary and the
 games are exceptionally cool on knoppix/freeduc:)

 Still as somebody stated it's a one nice to test hardware when one's buying
 and wondering how Mandrake will run on it.

 Good luck,
 HarM

I've been using Knoppix or pclos to test hardware for new systems, depending 
on what the end user is planning to run after assembly.

PCLOS is based on Mandrake 9.2 and, to my mind, is more functional than 
Mandrake Move. Not quite so minimalist. It's also installable.

Regards;
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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 on a 64MB RAM box

2004-02-12 Thread Tadimeti Keshav
Hi all,
I wonder if I can install and run Mandrake 9.1 on a
machine with a Pentium 200 MMX, 64MB RAM and 10 GB
HDD.

I believe the processor and RAM will limit the
usability of the machine. Can I install MDK without
KDE/GNOME? My experience has been that MDK would
install KDE whether you want it or not. 

What I want is a lean installation with Window
Maker/FluxBox as window managers and the ability to
play sound and connect to the internet.

sound = the box has a soundblaster 16 compatible.

BTW, does MDK 9.1 have a PPP program to connect to the
internet (other than the excellent KPPP). 
wvDial gave me a lot of headaches.

I tried FreeBSD 5.1(Slack was plain too tough).
But sound needs a kernel compile and I have reached a
dead end with linking failure. (the .o files wouldn't
link).

thanks

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread Dan Gordon
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500
lanman wrote:

 
 That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that
 shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to
 refresh your KDE desktop menu listing.
 
 I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. 
 

Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well.  I do have two
problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with
icewm.  If i select default i get kde 3.2.  Does anyone know if there
are some config files i should look at?  kdmrc seems to look the same as
the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed?
The other problem I will worry about later.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] How to go about creating a new partition.

2004-02-12 Thread John Richard Smith
Marc Resnick wrote:

On Thursday 12 February 2004 05:20 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

Marc Resnick wrote:

Last time I tried to make a partition to give Linux more hard drive space,
I completely screwed up Linux. Here's my plan for doing it this time. If
there's anything I might screw up by doing this, please tell me.
1. Use Partition Magic in windows to resize my NTFS Windows Partition.

2. Boot Linux, use Diskdrake to create a partition from the free space,
place it at the end of the sector.(I want to use Linux to do this so it
'knows' that I added this partition. Last time I think the problem was
that it took mdk by surprise, screwing up the labels.)
3. Do ln /home/marc /mnt/nameofpartition

Sound good?

I would not do this.
If windows and linux are on the same hard drive then use PM for all
partitoning.
If they are on seperate hard drives use PM on windows HD,
and diskdrake on Linux HD.
If you use PM on windblows HD then format all partitions initially with
FAT32 and let PM give each partition a volume lable.
Then, when in diskdrake of Linux install, reformat the already
partitioned HD with linux formatting tools, but don't let it do any
partitioning itself.
If you have a linux only HD, then use diskdrake to do both partition and
formatting.
So plan what you are going to do and follow that scheme of things.

The one thing I always avoid is mixing partition tools on the same hard
drive.
Others disagree with me, but I have always found this to be the case and
doing
this I avoid all kinds of messups that take 5 times as much time to
repair than if
I had taken an 'n'th more time and trouble in the first place.
I believe there are good solid reasons not to mix partition tools on the
same HD.
It is not just the method used to calculate partition sizes, but dos
naming conventions
as well. Hmm, you might say , who cares about dos naming convention, dos
is history.
Not so, some modern OS's still need certain uptodate dos naming
conventions,
eg. One primary. One extended dos partition, containing any number of
logical
dos partitions) old dos naming convention does not follow that pattern.
I believe Diskdrake does the old dos naming convention and can be the
cause of grief.
So Diskdrake creates,
Up to 4 primary dos partitions, one extended containing any number of
logicals.
At the end of the day you want hard drives whose partitioning sizing is
consistantly
measured. Hard drives that follow modern dos naming convention.
I have always followed the abovementioned rules and find them to be
trouble free.
No install refusals, no messed up partitions wasteful in dead HD space.

I had a tiny old HD that I partition entirely with W2K just to see what
dos naming
convention resulted , that is how I learnt about modern dos naming
convention.
Then of course if I had usedthe old dos fdisk I can choose , but neither
of these two
partition tools can save existing data. So don't bother with them.
If you have PM use it on the windblows HD to do all partitioning and
initally format them
with FAT32 and give the partitions a volume lable. then format the
partitions allocated
to linux with diskdrake during the linux install.
John

John,
I'm partly afraid of using Partition Magic now. Last time I created a FAT32 
partition, I couldn't delete it. I permanently(or at least permanently for my 
knowledge) screwed up fstab, and had to reinstall linux, then use diskdrake 
to successfully delete the partition. But If I just resize the NTFS partition 
with PM, I could safely use diskdrake to create the partition at the end of 
the Extended, am I correct?

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At the end of the day the decision whether  to use PM has to be yours.
All I can add is, that in my now fairly extensive experience I would not mix
my partition tools on the same drive.
If something went wrong with PM last time it has to be because you did 
something
wrong with it. In my experience it is a fine partioning tool. I would 
not use PM to
repartion anything diskdrake has already created though.If you create 
something with PM
use PM to alter it, If you created a partion with diskdrake use it to 
undo it.

So if you have this HD and it has a windblows ntfs partion with a 
windblows OS, I
would use PM to resize it. then with the remaining disc space I would 

Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 on a 64MB RAM box

2004-02-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:14:42 + (GMT)
Tadimeti Keshav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 I wonder if I can install and run Mandrake 9.1 on a
 machine with a Pentium 200 MMX, 64MB RAM and 10 GB
 HDD.
 
 I believe the processor and RAM will limit the
 usability of the machine. Can I install MDK without
 KDE/GNOME? My experience has been that MDK would
 install KDE whether you want it or not. 
 
 What I want is a lean installation with Window
 Maker/FluxBox as window managers and the ability to
 play sound and connect to the internet.
 
 sound = the box has a soundblaster 16 compatible.
 
 BTW, does MDK 9.1 have a PPP program to connect to the
 internet (other than the excellent KPPP). 
 wvDial gave me a lot of headaches.
 
 I tried FreeBSD 5.1(Slack was plain too tough).
 But sound needs a kernel compile and I have reached a
 dead end with linking failure. (the .o files wouldn't
 link).
 
 thanks
 
Yes you can install Mdk 9.1 on a 200MHz Pentium with 64MB of RAM

As you knw it will not be very fast.
You can install without KDE or Gnome. In the package select screen there is a tick box 
for individual package selection. In there you can select Window 
Maker/Enlightenment/IceWM/Blackbox or XFce.  Fluxbox is not on the CDs but is 
available for download from a 'Contrib' mirror  (although mirrors for 9.1 are fairly 
hard to find now)

When selecting packages to install try to avoid anything beginning with 'k' since 
running any KDE application requires loading the KDE libraries which will slow you 
down quite a lot. There are fast light weight alternatives for most applications yoou 
might need.

HTH

derek

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 on a 64MB RAM box

2004-02-12 Thread David Sexton
You should be able to install it just do a custom install and specifiy what you want 
to install. 
If I recall I had 9.1 running on a P200 with 64mb of ram and KDE it was a bit slow but 
worked.  
 
 From: Tadimeti Keshav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/02/12 Thu PM 12:14:42 EST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 on a 64MB RAM box
 
 Hi all,
 I wonder if I can install and run Mandrake 9.1 on a
 machine with a Pentium 200 MMX, 64MB RAM and 10 GB
 HDD.
 
 I believe the processor and RAM will limit the
 usability of the machine. Can I install MDK without
 KDE/GNOME? My experience has been that MDK would
 install KDE whether you want it or not. 
 
 What I want is a lean installation with Window
 Maker/FluxBox as window managers and the ability to
 play sound and connect to the internet.
 
 sound = the box has a soundblaster 16 compatible.
 
 BTW, does MDK 9.1 have a PPP program to connect to the
 internet (other than the excellent KPPP). 
 wvDial gave me a lot of headaches.
 
 I tried FreeBSD 5.1(Slack was plain too tough).
 But sound needs a kernel compile and I have reached a
 dead end with linking failure. (the .o files wouldn't
 link).
 
 thanks
 
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Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop????

2004-02-12 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Thursday 12 February 2004 5:07 am, di di wrote:
 Charlie, thanks for your answer

You're welcome. The answer is at the bottom.

 By the way, can you give any mirror to get that new cooker?
 Fabian.

 From: Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop
 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:07:09 -0700
 
 Wednesday 11 February 2004 4:53 pm, di di wrote:
   hello there...
  
   i just downloaded the isos of mdk 10 -3 cds- then i installed givinig
   no errors during it...but it doesnt load the new kde 3.2, it just
   appear
 
   the root login.
  
   anyone know anything about this
  
   thanks.
  
   fabian.
 
 Update to the latest cooker, you'll get 3.2 and a lot more.
 
 It will be a LOT of updates so I hope you have a broadband connection.
 
Got to:

http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php

Select the distribution (cooker in your case and mine) then follow the 
instructions to the letter. You won't need the beta CDs any more since RC1 
should be coming soon. That will be a more recent snapshot of the cooker 
tree. You may also want to add contrib and plf package sources since the 
good stuff such as DVD decoders etc. are in those directories.

Best of luck, and thanks for playing. g

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Urpmi Strange Behavour

2004-02-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 12 February 2004 06:19, Aron Smith wrote:
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] for a Lng time

It sounds as though you have the same contrib mirror as I did.  Try 
removing it and selecting another mirror.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 on a 64MB RAM box

2004-02-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:14:42PM +, Tadimeti Keshav wrote:
 Hi all,
 I wonder if I can install and run Mandrake 9.1 on a
 machine with a Pentium 200 MMX, 64MB RAM and 10 GB
 HDD.
 
 I believe the processor and RAM will limit the
 usability of the machine. Can I install MDK without
 KDE/GNOME? My experience has been that MDK would
 install KDE whether you want it or not. 
 
 What I want is a lean installation with Window
 Maker/FluxBox as window managers and the ability to
 play sound and connect to the internet.

You should be able to do that; you also might want to have a look at
XFce4, which is nice eye candy, full-o-features, and light. I'm running
it on a P333MMX with 64 RAM and it does very nicely on that.

That computer also has an ISA soundcard which MDK detected and
configured, which impressed me.

Good luck,
Todd

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread robin
Dan Gordon wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500
lanman wrote:

That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that
shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to
refresh your KDE desktop menu listing.
I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. 



Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well.  I do have two
problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with
icewm.  If i select default i get kde 3.2.  Does anyone know if there
are some config files i should look at?  kdmrc seems to look the same as
the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed?
The other problem I will worry about later.
I had similar misbehaviour with kdm, which would let me boot into KDE as 
root but not user. Switching to mdkdm solved the problem.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] StarDict

2004-02-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 12 February 2004 21:57, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 19:39, ronald wrote:
   Wow!  I found myself on the download page, and there are so
   many possibilities!  The downloads are preceded by a note about
   reading release notes and changelogs, but these are not on the
   same page, and I couldn't see where to find them.  Did you
   install from the .tar.bz2 files?  Does Ark handle them?
 
  hey Anne,
 
  StarDict is on the mandrake cd's :-)
 
  HTH   ronald

 Yes, and that was another surprise. But I think it depends on the
 dictionaries you choose.

Hmm - that's 1.31-4, and the sourceforge one is 2.4.2.  Now I've 
looked at it I do remember seeing it on the available software list, 
but it said 'English to Chinese dictionary' so I looked no further.

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Re: [newbie] Can't change permissions of mounted partition.

2004-02-12 Thread Marc Resnick
On Thursday 12 February 2004 05:20 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Thursday 12 Feb 2004 9:57 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
  I need to be able to use an extra FAT32 partition as a regular user. In
  root, when I chmod it to 777, nothing happens. When I try to use Nautilus
  to set the permissions, I try to check off write as other(everything is
  checked but it) and it just flashes and unchecks. I also can't change the
  owner or the group. What did I do wrong now?

 The reason you cannot set permissions is because FAT file systems do not
 have any permission bits.

 You have to set permissions for the entire file system in the /etc/fstab
 line entry for that file system. If you add the option umask-0 then the
 perms will be 777

 If you prefer to use a GUI run diskdrake and select Advanced modeOptions

 If you also add the option 'quiet', then you will stop getting error
 messages when you try to set permission on FAT32 files

 See 'man mount' for a full description of the available options.

 derek


Derek,

umask=0 is set in the options, but I still don't have access. What's weird is 
I also don't have write access in my /home(I can write in /home/marc though) 
or a bunch of other directories either.


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[newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread Marc Resnick
Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used screen to start up 
a game server, then detached. If I want to stop it, what do I do?


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Re: [newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread Christoph Eckert
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Am Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2004 23:58 schrieb Marc Resnick:

 Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used
 screen to start up a game server, then detached. If I want
 to stop it, what do I do?

ps -aux | grep NAME

or

ps -e | grep NAME

You can kill processes by name or by PID:

killall mozilla-bin
kill 0815


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Re: [newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 12 February 2004 04:58 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used screen to start
 up a game server, then detached. If I want to stop it, what do I do?
You can see everything running and its pid # by typing top in a console, 
does not have to be root. HTH
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RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread Dale Kosan
How did you add it to urpmi?



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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for
mdk9.2 rpms

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500
lanman wrote:

 
 That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that
 shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to
 refresh your KDE desktop menu listing.
 
 I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. 
 

Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well.  I do have two
problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with
icewm.  If i select default i get kde 3.2.  Does anyone know if there
are some config files i should look at?  kdmrc seems to look the same as
the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed?
The other problem I will worry about later.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] How to change font setting for man pages

2004-02-12 Thread Wojciech Podgrni
Dick Gevers wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:54:18 +0100, Wojciech Podgrni wrote about Re:
[newbie] How to change font setting for man pages:
I have been searching for the answer of this question for a some
time and I staill cannot find the answer: how do you change font
setting for man pages to ISO8859-2 coding?
Have you tried to open man pages with Konqueror?

Just type man:appname in the location bar and it will show up. After 
that -
if not satisfactory - you could try changing the settings of Konqueror to
those you need.

HTH
Regards,
=Dick Gevers=
Thank you, it works perfectly.
It looks like my problem is solved! :) :)
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Re: [newbie] insmod reports error because no floppy

2004-02-12 Thread Olivier Esser
Guy Rouillier wrote:
Olivier Esser wrote:

Guy Rouillier wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:09:57 -0500
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 08 February 2004 02:45 am, Guy Rouillier wrote:
-I just got a new laptop that has no floppy.  With both Mandrake 9.2
-32-bit and the AMD64 beta, every time they boot they print out an
insmod-error during checking for new hardware because the box has
no floppy-disk drive.  Everything appears to work fine, so the
message is just-a minor irritation.  How can I tell the kernel not to
look for a floppy-during bootup? The only mention I could find of a
floppy in startup-config files was ide-floppy in devfsd(not booted at
the moment, I think-that was it.) Can I simply remove that? Thanks.


Not only the kernel will gave you this error message: lauch DrakConf 
*from a terminal*, give the root passwoed and you will see in the 
terminal 2 or three times this message. This does not have any 
consequence except that it take a few seconds to fail each time it try 
to load the floppy module. The easier workaround I have found is to 
insert the following line

insmod floppy /bin/false

in /etc/modules.conf


I tried this with Mandrake 9.2.  Unfortunately it did not work for me. I 
got this during bootup:

modprobe: modprobe: Invalid line in /etc/modules.conf ^Iinsmod

I don't have a control I at the beginning of the line, so I don't know 
why it is reporting that.  And once this error occurs, all my other 
filesystems are no longer mountable.  Is there something else I need to 
be doing?
Ouups... the line to insert in /etc/modules.conf is:

install floppy /bin/false

Sorry for the inconvenience. I have writen my e-mail too fast.

For your information, this line tell modprobe to use the command 
/bin/false instead of the command insmod to install the floppy module. 
/bin/false is a command which do nothing but which fail to do it (sorry 
for being a bit vague). As I told previously you will still get error 
message but the system won't wast time to fail anymore. Writing 
/bin/true instead of /bin/false will disable the error messages but I 
think it won't be a good idea to do it since maybe some program have to 
know that the access of the floppy has failed.

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread lanman
On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote:
 How did you add it to urpmi?

Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as 
i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then 
use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in 
/home/dale

urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz

Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. 
Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else.

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Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop????

2004-02-12 Thread di di
Thanks!
I`ll try it right away!
Bye.
Fabian.


From: Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:29:43 -0700
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Thursday 12 February 2004 5:07 am, di di wrote:
 Charlie, thanks for your answer
You're welcome. The answer is at the bottom.

 By the way, can you give any mirror to get that new cooker?
 Fabian.

 From: Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] beta mdk10 doesnt give kde 3.2 new deskop
 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:07:09 -0700
 
 Wednesday 11 February 2004 4:53 pm, di di wrote:
   hello there...
  
   i just downloaded the isos of mdk 10 -3 cds- then i installed 
givinig
   no errors during it...but it doesnt load the new kde 3.2, it just
   appear
 
   the root login.
  
   anyone know anything about this
  
   thanks.
  
   fabian.
 
 Update to the latest cooker, you'll get 3.2 and a lot more.
 
 It will be a LOT of updates so I hope you have a broadband connection.
 
Got to:

http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php

Select the distribution (cooker in your case and mine) then follow the
instructions to the letter. You won't need the beta CDs any more since RC1
should be coming soon. That will be a more recent snapshot of the cooker
tree. You may also want to add contrib and plf package sources since the
good stuff such as DVD decoders etc. are in those directories.
Best of luck, and thanks for playing. g

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[newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread JoeHill

CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust just burned Aliens to CD and
it's playing without a blip or skip, I'm composing an e-mail, downloading more
movies (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and on a crappy ol' P3866
Intel810. Try this in XP...

http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png

This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel like I'm looking at a block
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Re: [newbie] External Projector

2004-02-12 Thread yankl
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:42, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 I'm trying to use a Epson PowerLite S1 external projector with Mandrake
 9.1 on a Toshiba laptop which has a NVidia card. I am using the open
 driver that comes with Mandrake.

 I am having some problem making this thing to work.

 .- I have to boot with the projector hooked to the laptop. This is an
 annoyance, not a real problem.

 .- Booting with the projector connected to the laptop means loosing the
 output to the LCD monitor, no matter how many times I use the Fn-F5 keys
 to switch between LCD, Projector or LCD/Projector. (I didn't expect it
 to work because this Toshiba laptop uses a Windows program to control
 the BIOS!!).

 .- To have any output projected, resolution has to be set at 800x600
 (the projector can work at 1024x768)

 .- There is no mouse cursor on the projection.

 Googling around I have found out that these types of problem are not
 uncommon, but I haven't had any luck finding answers that point to the
 solution of these problems.

 No problem using the projector with Windows but I need to make some
 presentations with Mandrake or SuSe.

 Has any body had these sort of problem and solved some of them?

 Any hint or tip will be truly appreciated.

 Adolfo

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[newbie] dev/null

2004-02-12 Thread Lee Wiggers
Okay, here I am, ticked off enough at a list to dev/null the lot of
'em and I don't know how.

Help?

Lee

PS It's not an mdk list and I can't unsub.

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Re: [newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread Lee B.
Dennis Myers wrote:

On Thursday 12 February 2004 04:58 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 

Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used screen to start
up a game server, then detached. If I want to stop it, what do I do?
   

You can see everything running and its pid # by typing top in a console, 
does not have to be root. HTH
 

How does one page down while running Top, so you can see the processes 
that don't fit on the first screen?

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Re: [newbie] dev/null

2004-02-12 Thread Lee B.
Lee Wiggers wrote:

Okay, here I am, ticked off enough at a list to dev/null the lot of
'em and I don't know how.
 

Look in the email header. The unsub link is in there.

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[newbie] Need some type of system restore!

2004-02-12 Thread marc resnick
Is there some type of system restore I can do? 
I(the genius) copied all of my files from /home/marc into a link to my new 
partition. Then I deleted /home/marc... Nothing will run =(


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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 07:58:12PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
 
 CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust just burned Aliens to CD and
 it's playing without a blip or skip, I'm composing an e-mail, downloading more
 movies (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and on a crappy ol' P3866
 Intel810. Try this in XP...
 
 http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png
 
 This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel like I'm looking at a block
 of useless goo.

Sweet, where can I grab a copy of that background of el Che?

Todd

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Re: [newbie] dev/null

2004-02-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 08:55:36PM -0500, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 Okay, here I am, ticked off enough at a list to dev/null the lot of
 'em and I don't know how.
 
 Help?

Do you have procmail set up? What client are you using?

Todd

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Re: [newbie] ldm_validate_partition failed

2004-02-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 11:28:46PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:50:11 -0500
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:56:20PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote:
   On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:39:05 -0500
   Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I had something funky happen, probably related to a
cd-burning/cache-clearing mishap and/or a power failure.

Anyway, when I try to boot, I get endless ldm_validate_partition
failed messages. I do a hard reset and boot into nonfb or secure
and everything seems normal. Any ideas on how to fix the normal
boot?
   
   I get this message on an old computer (dual Pentium 233MMX) with an
   external flash card reader plugged into USB.  I normally only have
   one card in it (it has two slots for different formats) and Linux
   just doesn't like the missing drive.   I've filed several bug
   reports and tried a half-dozen kernels over the last year, still no
   luck.  Do you have a flash card reader?
  
  yes, a sandisk 2-in-1. When I log in normally I get a few of those
  messages, no big deal. This rebooting, though, seems to go in a loop
  and it never boots. Do you think the usb card reader is the problem?
  Strange cause it worked before. Go figure.
 
 I have the exact same device (SanDisk 2 in 1 external.)  See the bug
 report here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1844 (and notice
 the link to an earlier bug 930 reported a year earlier.   Sorry, I have
 no solution.  Strangely, last time I checked, Redhat had a working
 solution.   Don't know why these distro's can't learn from each other.

Thanks, unplugging the device and rebooting worked.

Todd

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[newbie] sigmatel usb mp3 player

2004-02-12 Thread Bill Winegarden
Hi all,
I recently bought a cheap, 'er inexpensive mp3 player. It is described as a 
Sigmatel MSCN USB device and it is mounted as a mass storage device in that 
other OS. I don't like the looks of 2 of those letters!
My Fuji 2400 mounts beautifully as a mass storage device but this item is 
resisting all my efforts.

Does anyone have this device? Do I have to create any dir's before it will 
work? I'm running LM9.1 on a laptop.

tia,
Bill W.


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Re: [newbie] Need some type of system restore!

2004-02-12 Thread lanman
On February 12, 2004 09:40 pm, marc resnick wrote:
 Is there some type of system restore I can do?
 I(the genius) copied all of my files from /home/marc into a link to
 my new partition. Then I deleted /home/marc... Nothing will run =(

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Try rebooting and when your system gets to LILO, select failsafe. In 
failsafe, hit Shift I to get the interactive mode, and at the proper 
steps do not load dm, or XFS. You'll end up at a console. log in as 
root, and run startx to get the root users desktop. Open konqueror 
and make sure that your backed up files are safe, then edit your user 
in userdrake, log out and log in as that new user.

Restore your files from the backup or point your new user's home 
directory to the new location. You may need to change the permissions 
for the new user to match the user ID number of your old, saved 
content.

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Re: [newbie] Need some type of system restore!

2004-02-12 Thread marc resnick
On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:02 pm, lanman wrote:
 On February 12, 2004 09:40 pm, marc resnick wrote:
  Is there some type of system restore I can do?
  I(the genius) copied all of my files from /home/marc into a link to
  my new partition. Then I deleted /home/marc... Nothing will run =(


Well Failsafe hates me, so naturally, it'll never work. I'll just go through 
and redo all of my settings. But one thing I don't know how to reset. In a 
shell, it now says Bash-205$... It used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I liked 
that better. =) Any idea how to change it?


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Re: [newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 12 February 2004 08:03 pm, Lee B. wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 04:58 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
 Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used screen to
  start up a game server, then detached. If I want to stop it, what do I
  do?
 
 You can see everything running and its pid # by typing top in a console,
 does not have to be root. HTH

 How does one page down while running Top, so you can see the processes
 that don't fit on the first screen?
Good question, I have never bothered to look at more than the full screen 
shows because the lower you go the more asleep those tasks are. Notice the 
real technical language asleep,  well I am not a programmer, just a dabbler 
in linux. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Need some type of system restore!

2004-02-12 Thread John Drouhard
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:23:02 -0500
marc resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 12 February 2004 10:02 pm, lanman wrote:
  On February 12, 2004 09:40 pm, marc resnick wrote:
   Is there some type of system restore I can do?
   I(the genius) copied all of my files from /home/marc into a link to
   my new partition. Then I deleted /home/marc... Nothing will run =(
 
 
 Well Failsafe hates me, so naturally, it'll never work. I'll just go through 
 and redo all of my settings. But one thing I don't know how to reset. In a 
 shell, it now says Bash-205$... It used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I liked 
 that better. =) Any idea how to change it?
 
 
 

Open up userdrake as root, and check your settings. You should have a
user for yourself with your home directory (make sure it exists), a user
ID greater than or equal to 500, a Login Shell of /bin/bash, and a
Primary Group that is the same as your user name. If not, mess with the
settings until it's like that, and reboot. If that doesn't work, then
I'm not sure. 

HTH, John

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Re: [newbie] A command to list running processes.

2004-02-12 Thread John Drouhard
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:03:22 -0800
Lee B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dennis Myers wrote:
 
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 04:58 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
   
 
 Is there a shell command to list running processes? I used screen to start
 up a game server, then detached. If I want to stop it, what do I do?
 
 
 You can see everything running and its pid # by typing top in a console, 
 does not have to be root. HTH
   
 
 
 How does one page down while running Top, so you can see the processes 
 that don't fit on the first screen?
 
 

You can't. What I do is sort by different things. I'll sort by maybe CPU
usage (CTL-P), then maybe Age (CTL-A), then maybe by users (press u,
then type the name of the user). If I want to see all the processes,
then I type ps aux | less

John


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Re: [newbie] LCP timeout sending Config-Requests

2004-02-12 Thread John Rye
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:13:16 +
Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear All
 
 I have everything configured on my computer to connect to the Internet
 through Mandrake 9.2. However, I always get the following message (in
 /var/log/messages):
 
 LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 
 The username/password are not authenticated. Could somebody here
 please help me?
 

first read the pppd man page ('man pppd' in a terminal) then edit
/etc/ppp/options to reflect the following, it should(tm) solve the LCP
timeouts.

lock
debug
noauth
defaultroute
lcp-max-configure 45
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
idle 600

cheers

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf
On Thursday 12 February 2004 07:58 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust just
 burned Aliens to CD and it's playing without a blip or
 skip, I'm composing an e-mail, downloading more movies
 (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and on a crappy
 ol' P3866 Intel810. Try this in XP...

 http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png

 This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel like
 I'm looking at a block of useless goo.

Oh yea! lol. Well I'M downloading a patch for X, and then 
I'll be downloading the one for Mutt, not because I can't 
do both at the same time, but because I have respect for 
the people who run the Slackware FTP, and rather than slurp 
the bandwidth up so no one else can update, I do it one at 
a time, sometimes two at a time ;)

I have Gaim going, which was  patched too, and been on 
since, I have my email loaded and being read, I have web 
pages going, and sometimes I have music playing lightly 
while watching a movie while looking at websites, while 
looking up things for homework, and actually doing my 
homework, then when I run low on space in KDE, I switch to 
a VC and log in on all 6 of those too and have each one 
doing something. Like Vi open doing my homework, well at 
least the text part of it, and in another downloading 
something with Wget ;)

Yea, it's hard to make Linux or any *NIX OS say please slow 
down. Also, if I have to much going where I'm out of room, 
I log in with SSH from my other boxes ;)

Not bad for only having 384 MBs RAM :) And of course I have 
damn near a GB of Swap, and an Nvidia card, and I'm an 
elitist about that lol.

I saw we make this the I'm proud Linux message.

Raise your coffe cup, mountain dew bottle, or whatever the 
hell you're drinking up high, and say YAY TUX! Lol ;)

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread anton
Yay Tux!

-=-=-
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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread anton
lanman wrote:
On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote:

How did you add it to urpmi?


Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as 
i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then 
use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in 
/home/dale

urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz

Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. 
Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else.

Lanman 
Or if you are allergic to the command line then just open the MCC, go to 
software management, software media manager, add, then type in a new 
name (e.g, kde32) and browse to the folder you want to add (like 
/home/antonovich/kde32/). If you want you can tick the hdlist box and 
type int hdlist.cz, or just let it find it itself (by leaving it blank). 
I used this method just to try it out with that very folder (cos I'm 
trying very hard to NOT be allergic to the commandline!)!
cheers
Anton

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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf
On Thursday 12 February 2004 11:33 pm, anton wrote:
 Yay Tux!

 -=-=-
 ... Pardon me while I laugh.
Lol. Yea it does seem weird. But then again I'm an elitist 
about this kind of stuff. I have about 54 OSs, all of which 
I know how to use, and I STILL use Linux. Damn near 10,000 
dollars in software and I pick the free one lol.

I have Solaris, which is nice, but I have no sparc station, 
and the X86 version seems to be slower. I also have Windows 
1.0 - Server 2003. And I also have PC-DOS 6.3 on the 
original floppies they came on. Not bad for someone who has 
only had a computer for 4 years now huh ;) 

I have BeOS pro 5.0 too. 
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[newbie] Linux Modem

2004-02-12 Thread ka ...
I have just install Linux Mandrake 8 (kernel v. 2.4.3).
my modem is a broadcom (BCM V.92 56K Modem) how can i make it work; i found 
something in
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/archive-third/msg01652.html
but i dont understand very well, so can somebody tell me exactly what to do?

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Re: [newbie] on distributions...

2004-02-12 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
Thanks Anne!

I'm really surprised that you read my letter entirely!
It was provoked by the reaction of users to changes!
I think also that the power of Linux consits in
command line tools and we really need to have mc and
memtest!

--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 14:34, Dobrescu Mihai
 wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I am freshly new in this community.
 
 Hi, Mike.  Welcome!
 
  That's all for the moment and take this as it is :
 a
  new user's thoughs! As time goes by I hope I will
 get
  involved moreto understand you better and maybe to
  help you!
 
 I'm glad you're enjoying your experience.  Eric
 sends out a weekly 
 welcome letter and you'll find useful links there. 
 Apart from the 
 list, one way we try to help each other is through
 the Community 
 TWiki, where we post our personal experiences with
 hardware/software 
 and administration issues.  Take a look at that. 
 The link in my sig 
 is a shortcut to it.
 
 Anne
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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
See below!
--- JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust
 just burned Aliens to CD and
 it's playing without a blip or skip, I'm composing
 an e-mail, downloading more
 movies (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and
 on a crappy ol' P3866
 Intel810. Try this in XP...
Don't try this at home!-)
 
 http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png
 
 This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel
 like I'm looking at a block
 of useless goo.
 
 -- 
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 Registered Linux user #282046
 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
 +++
 19:54:48 up 7 days, 7:42, 5 users, load average:
 1.27, 1.22, 1.19
 +++
 Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686
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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 12 February 2004 08:17 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 07:58 pm, JoeHill wrote:
  CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust just
  burned Aliens to CD and it's playing without a blip or
  skip, I'm composing an e-mail, downloading more movies
  (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and on a crappy
  ol' P3866 Intel810. Try this in XP...
 
  http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png
 
  This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel like
  I'm looking at a block of useless goo.

 Oh yea! lol. Well I'M downloading a patch for X, and then
 I'll be downloading the one for Mutt, not because I can't
 do both at the same time, but because I have respect for
 the people who run the Slackware FTP, and rather than slurp
 the bandwidth up so no one else can update, I do it one at
 a time, sometimes two at a time ;)

 I have Gaim going, which was  patched too, and been on
 since, I have my email loaded and being read, I have web
 pages going, and sometimes I have music playing lightly
 while watching a movie while looking at websites, while
 looking up things for homework, and actually doing my
 homework, then when I run low on space in KDE, I switch to
 a VC and log in on all 6 of those too and have each one
 doing something. Like Vi open doing my homework, well at
 least the text part of it, and in another downloading
 something with Wget ;)

 Yea, it's hard to make Linux or any *NIX OS say please slow
 down. Also, if I have to much going where I'm out of room,
 I log in with SSH from my other boxes ;)

 Not bad for only having 384 MBs RAM :) And of course I have
 damn near a GB of Swap, and an Nvidia card, and I'm an
 elitist about that lol.

 I saw we make this the I'm proud Linux message.

 Raise your coffe cup, mountain dew bottle, or whatever the
 hell you're drinking up high, and say YAY TUX! Lol ;)


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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 12 February 2004 08:17 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
 On Thursday 12 February 2004 07:58 pm, JoeHill wrote:
  CPU's maxed out recoding a DivX as SVCD, GCombust just
  burned Aliens to CD and it's playing without a blip or
  skip, I'm composing an e-mail, downloading more movies
  (see eth0), and it's all smooth as silk, and on a crappy
  ol' P3866 Intel810. Try this in XP...
 
  http://www.orderinchaos.org/burnin.png
 
  This is why when I sit down at a Windows box, I feel like
  I'm looking at a block of useless goo.

 Oh yea! lol. Well I'M downloading a patch for X, and then
 I'll be downloading the one for Mutt, not because I can't
 do both at the same time, but because I have respect for
 the people who run the Slackware FTP, and rather than slurp
 the bandwidth up so no one else can update, I do it one at
 a time, sometimes two at a time ;)

 I have Gaim going, which was  patched too, and been on
 since, I have my email loaded and being read, I have web
 pages going, and sometimes I have music playing lightly
 while watching a movie while looking at websites, while
 looking up things for homework, and actually doing my
 homework, then when I run low on space in KDE, I switch to
 a VC and log in on all 6 of those too and have each one
 doing something. Like Vi open doing my homework, well at
 least the text part of it, and in another downloading
 something with Wget ;)

 Yea, it's hard to make Linux or any *NIX OS say please slow
 down. Also, if I have to much going where I'm out of room,
 I log in with SSH from my other boxes ;)

 Not bad for only having 384 MBs RAM :) And of course I have
 damn near a GB of Swap, and an Nvidia card, and I'm an
 elitist about that lol.

 I saw we make this the I'm proud Linux message.

 Raise your coffe cup, mountain dew bottle, or whatever the
 hell you're drinking up high, and say YAY TUX! Lol ;)
better belive it
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